Most HEATED Moments From Bill Nye Debate with Ken Ham
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- Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2016
- In this video, you'll see the most heated moments from the Bill Nye debate with Ken Ham at the life-size Noah's Ark (arkencounter.com/). They discuss the meaning of life, climate change, and more!
You can get the full 2-hour video plus the highlights at AnswersBookstore.com/debate.
I appreciate that when talking to the public they each gave eachother a chance to talk without the other interrupting
At least for the most part 😂
Matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, therefore no matter nor energy would’ve existed to do the causing. Consequently, whatever did cause the universe to exist, would need to be immaterial and exist beyond time and space! Genesis 1: 1 God creates time space and matter!
Entropy is somewhat opposite of evolution and why did this come into the universe if everything’s getting better. Genesis 2:17 says death came into the universe through the first sin!
First two chapters of the Bible not the 500th chapter or the thousandth chapter; explain what evolutionists have not explained;, The first two laws of thermodynamics!
DNA does not auto encrypt, it did not write itself the code writer is outside of the code. 3300 billion lines of computer code in 1 humans DNA, would fill the Grand Canyon 50 times of Books, let alone plant and animal DNA and it did not write itself! One person‘s DNA could stretch to the sun and back 61 times! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“.
John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did the world will not have enough room for the Books, telling of it“
Job 38:35 “were you there when I created the lightnings and they say ‘here we are!”’ This is God talking to Job!
3300 years later, James Maxwell discovers that light rays and electricity are two forms of the same thing!
The Bible Predicted telecommunications
not really. bro kept saying “but what happens when they’re gone” 🤣
I thought that at any second, bill nye was gonna sucker punch him.
This is sarcasm right?
My favorite part of this debate is when can ham says to Bill Nye "you too can be saved" and Bill Nye just stares at him and instead of rejecting him he just says thank you and moves on and that was just a real human moment.
That was awesome!😂
... Canned Ham ? ...🍖
Yeah that was awesome. That’s a seed planted. Praise the Lord. Praying others will water and God will bring the increase.
@@B1rdTheW0rdI can go ahead and tell you coming from a person who holds similar beliefs as nye, he couldn’t care less what religious people say. If you think he gives two craps about prayers you’re sadly mistaken bc he doesn’t care.
Bill Nye is a smug dolt. He's promoted that trendy "gender spectrum" foolishness. He has no credibility in my eyes.
I find this incredibly entertaining and frustrating all at the same time. 😂
It was like seeing a epic nerd level rap battle
I agree
its only frustrating if you have no faith in God
@@USNVA-yn6cphow so?
Nye: You start with a belief. I start with evidence.
Ham: Where is your proof that life arose from natural causes?
Nye: We haven’t proven it.
Ham: Then that’s a belief.
Nye: You don’t understand science.
Me: 😂
Bill Nye made a mistake my letting Ken continually steamroll over him every time he would try to make a point. Ken keeps making up some divide in science called observational science and historical science which has been directly refuted on numerous times. Because he wants to continue decieving people with this and we know this. I shouldn't bother even trying to convince him but maybe I can get to some of his followers. Its not just evolution that refutes the bible, its mountains of evidence in every major field of study. Its why despite what ken ham says, droves of people are leaving the faith the more they understand science. Our knowledge of evolution is litterally the foundation for our knowledge of biology. This is why we have vaccines for viruses that used to kill many people each year. Science did that. Not praying to god.
Viruses arent technically alive so they dont technically undergo evolution in the common sense, but the same mechanics apply. Mutations in the DNA of the virus cause changes in the virus. Thats why we need to renew our shots every so often because the virus chsnges enough to where our body doesnt recognise it anymore. Surely anyone looking can accept this right?
The same things happen with bacteria which are alive. The reason antibiotic resistant superbacteria exist is because when people dont take their full prescription of a certain antibiotic, and just stop when they feel better, they leave alive the bacteria that were more resistant to that antibiotic Which lets them proliferate and now you have stronger bacteria that are more resistant to a particular drug. Now you have evidence of evolution by natural selection. Because life changes.
Ive also seen ken ham make up some arbitrary divide between evolution called micro and macro evolution. Evolution is just evolution. Change is just change. The only difference is time span. Many small changes compiled atop generations leads to more differences between the parent and daughter generations. And yet he continues to put some invisible limit on how much change can occur. Dont you see thats ridiculous?
Bill nye like every other scientist starts with a question. Which is then turned into an experiment to answer the question. If this, then this, because this. His belief system is built by evidence from experiments. Whereas Kens belief system is built off "the bible told me so" which every Christian somehow conciders a 2000 year old book written by numerous people that never actually contains any timeless wisdom other that obvious ones like killing is bad. Duh killing is bad. No-one needs god to say that. The fact that god chose a book of words to communicate to people rather than a mass transmission of understanding is prove against itself alone. Written words are flawed being they're so up for interpretation. Just think about how Catholics, jews, Baptists, Mormons and jehovah witnesses all read the same book and yet if you were to put them in a conference room they would argue calling eachother wrong and claiming to have knowledge of the one true god.
Words are limited in their ability to communicate, and an omniscient being could surely think of a better way. Even I can.
If I had a message I wanted to convey to people, like god to the world of sinners, I would use my powers to share my understanding, my feelings, my rationale and my emotions directly to the people so they know my thought process directly. This will allow them to directly understand my entire rationale on any particular subject. Rather than a book that can be so wildly interpreted.
@@alexanderdenney6255you have more faith in your religion, than what I have in the Bible 😂😂😂😂
@alexanderdenney6255 Ken Ham really did steamroll Bill Nye didn’t he? It just shows that atheists and agnostics have a blind faith. I mean Ken Ham is more fit to be the science guy since he actually has a degree in Biology.
@@michaelsears6702 and he actually uses science instead of head cannons
Anyone else notice that Bill seems to cringe anytime God is mentioned?
Because it’s kind of like a cheat. It’s kind of like two kids playing and one of them yells “I have a shield!”. It’s like a trump card with no basis in reality.
He doesn’t really need an argument because he can just answer “because god” as if it answers a question without any evidence.
@@henrylivingstone2971 the cheat is avoiding accountability by just excusing all absent a creator
@@HHSMCJROTC
Avoiding accountability for what?
@@henrylivingstone2971 Morality. Reality. Purpose.
@@andrewmorse2181
Morality varies based on the person.
Reality is not a word that does not pertain to people of your particular belief system. It’s not reality if you can’t explain or justify any of your claims.
Purpose is subjective.
There was obvious tension and disagreement and even contempt for each other’s beliefs, but there were no raised voices, and everyone was allowed to talk.
On an unrelated note I'd pay for a wrestling match between them after that
Bill doesn't have beliefs.
Bill has knowledge based on science
@@lucieudem Exactly, and science is based on evidence.
And Ken Ham has zero evidence.
Just baseless belief.
Bill insulted him tho
Anyone notice that Ken changes the subject wherever Nye brings up a good point?
No but I did notice the opposite.
It’s the opposite
A good point like "We might be Martians and I'm going to look for evidence that we're Martians despite there bring no reason to believe there will be evidence of this" while simultaneously ignoring the actual provable fact that all human beings belong to the same species and therefore had a common (human) ancestor...?
@@metalfilmsofficial9468ofc you did
@@JSt3pz Ken Ham has never brought up a good point in his entire life.
"Trust the science."
"Well, there are lots of scientists that would disagree with you."
"Well, they're incompetent."
Great argument.....
The only scientists that disagree with the theory of evolution are people who base of a book of unverified nonsense they will say the demonstrations of evolution done IN THE LAB are not a change in kind and will then refuse to answer what a kind even is, so in this regard they are incompetent
@@stevebozWhat exactly does that say?
There is no incompetent scientists?
@@bilbothegamerandtraveler2634 It is the assumption that only scientists that support Ken's arguments are the incompetent ones.
And it is, "There ARE no incompetent scientists?"
@@bilbothegamerandtraveler2634 That's right. If you're incompetent, you will get the wrong answer, and be quickly exposed by your fellows. That's how peer-review works.
“I’ve never seen a tree grow faster than trees grow.” 😂 legendary
But thats circular reasoning because he's saying that trees only grow 1 ring per year and therefore cannot grow more rings per year because that would mean it grows faster than it does, assuming that 1 ring per year is undeniable truth.
@@aeronblitz9347 if we observe trees always grow 1 ring per year at all times, we can *induce* tress grow 1 ring per year.
We make regular inductions all the time, and if you want to be a cynic, all inductions arent good enough, since one case that proves these wrong causes the whole induction to fail.
Personally, im not a cynic. If, for the hundreds of years we've been here, something always acts the same way, there is no reason to believe it would be any different in the past.
Abiogenesis has no proof
@@tonymaurice4157 no Abiogenesis haven't been proven completely, even though organic molecules have shown to start organizing by themselves without a wizard. But evolution has been proven and that alone disproves your Yahweh or Allah or whatever you worship.
@LVB🦅 You're just assuming it will be proven.. It's plagued with massive problems and the chemistry is highly manipulated.. You have no clue what you're talking about, Just another youtube atheist that has wishful thinking for your origin of life disaster!
“Im glad he learned the fundamentals of architecture” 😭🤣
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Ken Ham boasts that his scientist built a building 😂 What more brilliant thing could you say to that?
He's such a good actor that you might think he's a science guy or something 🤔
I like the way nye says, as a scientist, '' we don't know '' -- whereas ham never admits not knowing because '' the bible says ''...
Ken is more humble
@@alistair6914so wrong lol
@@alistair6914 You completely missed my point, you are really stupid !
@@alistair6914 bro did you watch the video💀 he interrupted bill every second he got
His “when you die your done” question can be one simple answer: I don’t want future people to endure suffering based on my selfish choices in this life. Period.
Nobody, not one person anywhere on this earth, is now or ever will suffer from climate change, especially if you believe in what Nye is preaching. If you do, you MUST believe that people will evolve to be able to thrive in whatever climate the world throws at them. If the oceans rise, people and animals will adapt and reorganize themselves. Science tells is that has ALWAYS been the case, but it will no longer be the case going forward. It’s a moronic argument.
Life is suffering my man
But why does suffering matter? Who cares if it doesn’t matter in the end? If we have no purpose, then why not let everyone suffer? According to the belief in nothing, it doesn’t matter. We’d all end up in non existence anyway, no matter what.
@@skueky8181empathy man, treat people like you treat yourself, plain and simple
@@lordzanthartehallen8963 and empathy came out of a void of nothingness? Out of tiny little particle fluctuations? Empathy is only from God. The Bible says we are made in His likeness. We are like God to a certain point, as in we are capable of having some of the same attributes. For example, empathy. So without God, we have no emotion.
Props to both men for having a respectful disagreement about what they think and why they think it. Let people make up their own minds.
Billsh is not anywhere near respectful. He can't fathom that anything he vomits could be wrong..
@MEGA1FILM or is it so scary to you that you have spent years being close minded, and hearing someone use actual evidence to prove a point that you resort to petty verbal assault? Show with evidence that Bill is wrong in his claims. ... I'm waiting. Do more research. Read more than one book. Don't be afraid of change. It's gonna be okay. When you finally start thinking for yourself instead of blindly following these theist hacks you'll feel free. You'll discover a whole world of knowledge that has been hidden from you. Try to be open minded. Bill Nye is not the spokes person for science. He is just one person trying to help open eyes to the wonderful world of scientific research and discovery. It is amazing over here, come join us. :)
@@MEGA1FILM because it’s backed in science. like peer reviewed long researched SCIENCE
@@savannahstuart5319 It’s backed-up by pseudoscience, assumptions and great leaps of faith to believe in what Bill Nye believes.
@@MEGA1FILMneither can theists fathom that what they believe could be wrong.
Are we not gonna talk abt how he said "there are a few of us that act like lizards" ?!?!?!
He just admitted to being a lizard person
a lot of christians act like pigs though
that was the first thing i caught, hmm
I mean there are.
@@calebhumphrey8220huh?
"i have evidence" "i can't prove it"
@@m.zacharias8952 so what hypothesis are you talking about? Big bang, evolution, carbon dating? I suggest studying Karl Popper to find the true definition of science. Since when mere opinions are regarded as hard sciences, Bill like many scientist-wannabe atheists are no more than clowns. Conspiring agendas based on opinions and forcing their atheistic beliefs on the most impressionable minds of children in colleges is not science but propaganda, can't you see; societies, communities, and families are being destroyed in the name of spreading genes. They do worship a god, its name is Darwin.
He could’ve referenced evolution, that’s more than enough proof, but that’s his decision
@@ITGOES80808 There is no proof of evolution.
@@ITGOES80808 Evolution is fake. Species adaptation is real. It is way too hard for a species to turn into a new species by random chance even over millions of years.
@@ITGOES80808 Evolution proves what? That animals adapt?
I love how they cut out the parts where bill gives the best evidence 💀
? He can't answer simple questions like any other SH I've encountered
I've never seen Bill want to hit someone so bad!😂
Ken asked questions like he dropped the mic, “so we’re related to plants?”
Bill: yes? Lol
hahahahahahahaha
I wish he had hit him... hard. That would be a fun lawsuit to watch. Oh, well. :)
Would have been nice to see him try. He would lose. He is a fool.
You need to understand this, God's creating everything was a MIRACLE.
I love how he tells Nye “you have no absolute proof so you could be wrong” but then speaks about god as if it’s absolute proof.
Cause he is tho. Theres more evidence to god than anything else
@@zerkeva1406 yeah I met the guy in 12BC, he was pretty chill back then, but after his first kid he stopped coming to our parties and started focusing on his work.
And he COULD be wrong, and so could WE who believe in GOD. But the difference between those two is one that Bill Nye and anyone else that believe in current scientific theories don't recognize.
That difference is that IF THEY'RE correct, then it makes no difference WHAT you believe. We'll all end up in the same place, doing the same thing REGARDLESS of what we believe.....6 feet under turning into worm food. So why do they fight our beliefs so hard? What harm does our beliefs do? Absolutely NONE whatsoever.
But if WE'RE the ones that are right, those who DON'T believe are SCREWED! I DON'T think I'm wrong that God is real, and there are a LOT of science based reasons why I believe that. But taking scientific theories at face value requires every bit as much faith as believing in God.
And after all is said and done, since BOTH require faith, I'd rather believe in GOD and be wrong, than believe in the current scientific theories and be wrong. If I'M wrong I loose NOTHING, but if I'm RIGHT, anyone that DIDN'T make the right choice is HOSED! And they have no excuse, THEY'RE the ones that CHOSE to ignore the warnings.🤔🤷
Maybe the Bible is a man made construct to keep certain ppl in line, and keep us from discovering we are God?
If you were actually interested you would spend some time reading the Bible. Then if you are a chosen one, you just might start to understand what you're reading.
Then you would know that not only does His exist, He just may want you to get to know Him.
Am I the only getting flashbacks of listening to my parents fight ?
I wish Ken would listen a bit more
He said they didn't have tools to build the ark... explain how ancient Egyptians cut massive stones that weighed tens of thousands of pounds and moved them 300 miles to build the pyramids. He can't.
Go look it up.
@@ausis6214 I'm a geographer. It should be easy to explain to me, go ahead.
Can you explain how they made the pyramids?
@@Kentmadden Fallen Angel technology.
Can Ken explain how the pyramids are older than the supposed flood? Or how there is a living tree that is older than the biblical age of the universe?
I've found, that when people tell you they are something specific, (like being open-minded) that they are often not what they claim.
well believing we are descended from Martians is pretty open minded if you ask me especially since science has yet to tell us that
@@satores1918 wait so a sky person just poofed everything into existence is more believable ?
@@satores1918 no one thinks that but okay
@@thatskasher This is where you fail, because you equate the weakness of man, to the attributes of God. God is power, a power we haven't yet discovered, nor may never will, but a power beyond sky people ability. Beyond the ability of absolutely nothing, coming into existence all on its own, with no volition or reason.
@@user-fv5ms4sz8e & whats your reasoning for coming to this conclusion? A book ?
I really like what Ken is doing early in this video. He is establishing the fact that even if you don't believe in God you still have your own belief system.
@@justineseman3741 not sure what you mean by that my friend
@@re3z0r Dead serious, This comment was meant for a completely different comment. I don't know how it ended up on your comment, i have no issues here. i'll delete it. i mean, it doesnt even make sense to your context.
@@justineseman3741 all good lol. take care.
That's fine, my belief system includes things like evidence whereas Ham's doesn't.
@@osmosis321 your so called evidence, is made up evidence and it's made up in order to build up an anti creator agenda.
As in the case of Bill's example of Pluto. For decades Pluto was thought of as a planet. New discoveries, through better observation systems, and better measuring equipment, have forced scientists to change their minds to the point where now Pluto is no longer considered a planet.
However, before the new discoveries, for decades there was evidence that Pluto was a planet, and it was taught in schools that it was.
So your so called evidence, is only evidence, until new discoveries turn your evidence into lies.
Science is a perpetual lie based on constant manufacturing of evidence. All because some people just really hate God, and do not want to recognize Him. If they were to recognize Him, that would mean they have a master. That they cannot do, because that means they can be held accountable for their sin.
Regardless of what you or they think, everyone will have to give an account for their actions, and God's justice will have the ultimate say so.
Putting your head in the sand for the entirety of your life, does not erase the being of God. It merely just makes you regret all of your decisions when God tells you, sorry, you cannot enter my kingdom. You wanted separation from me, now you will have it for eternity, and your quarantine quarters will be in the lake of fire and brimstone.
Bill Nye has made me want to be born again
hahah
Why, was the first time not exciting enough?
Bill Nye is literally the Bob Vila of scientists, meaning he's got as much credibility as Bob Vila was as carpenter. Bob Vila was just tv carpenter and not a real carpenter. In fact he was so bad at hammering a single nail that they had to do multiple takes for him to get it right. In fact the tv show "Home Improvement" staring Tim Allen was a complete parody on Bob Vila from the home improvement show"This Old House".
@@fullnelson3028 Oh I'm *sooo* scared.
You only get born once, just like everybody else on the planet.
Ken literally talked about his legacy and leaving something for his kids in one part and then consistently asks Bill why anything matters if you just die and then your done.
I don’t you understand the point he’s getting at
@@jacrich699 Ham believes in god that’s why he wants to pass on legacy but Bill is saying that their is no god, which means we’re just here for no higher purpose. So then what’s the point of anything. What’s the point in even trying to make right in the world if it’s all pointless is what he’s getting at. It’s a rational question to point out his error in rational thinking. The comment makes no sense because they have two completely different views and he’s simply pointing out how illogical that we just go nowhere when we die.
Matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, therefore no matter nor energy would’ve existed to do the causing. Consequently, whatever did cause the universe to exist, would need to be immaterial and exist beyond time and space! Genesis 1: 1 God creates time space and matter!
Entropy is somewhat opposite of evolution and why did this come into the universe if everything’s getting better. Genesis 2:17 says death came into the universe through the first sin!
First two chapters of the Bible not the 500th chapter or the thousandth chapter; explain what evolutionists have not explained;, The first two laws of thermodynamics!
DNA does not auto encrypt, it did not write itself the code writer is outside of the code. 3300 billion lines of computer code in 1 humans DNA, would fill the Grand Canyon 50 times of Books, let alone plant and animal DNA and it did not write itself! One person‘s DNA could stretch to the sun and back 61 times! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“.
John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did the world will not have enough room for the Books, telling of it“
Job 38:35 “were you there when I created the lightnings and they say ‘here we are!”’ This is God talking to Job!
3300 years later, James Maxwell discovers that light rays and electricity are two forms of the same thing!
The Bible Predicted telecommunications
@@reubenfreer3230 just because you aren’t a christian or believe in God doesn’t mean you completely lack purpose or morals of any kind.
@@savannahstuart5319 yes it does, their is no basis for what is moral or immoral, it makes it all relative with no higher truth, which we all know is bs 😂 plus your moral standards come from religion lol and your purpose is self made if there is no god, which means your making purpose literally to give meaning to your meaningless life. But with god everything has meaning.
It hurts my heart to listen to people with hard hearts and closed minds. Pearls to swine.
It also hurts cos this guy's my childhood :(
Ken ham should've used ray comfort approach..the law to show him how guilty we are ..like Paul said the law is a school master to bring us to christ
It is very good to teach and preach the Bible. However,
I wish someone would give Bill a good serious argument without ever going to the Bible. Real science versus make believe science.
The Bible just makes him put his fingers in his ears and scream LA LA LA LA
@@michaelszczys8316That means (this person) would be appealing to a human authority, therefore dismissing God all together. To say another way such a person would be placing authority over God.
@@darinb.3273 beside the whole point
I watched this debate live as an early teenager with my family. I liked reading Creation magazine as a kid, (I was even featured in one of their cartoons once after my mother contacted them telling them that all I would read was their magazines. I believe it was a picture of me -- a generic teenage looking boy, sitting in a beanbag with headphones on, reading creation magazine, and I was saying something like, "Hey mum! Creation Magazine is the most educational thing you've ever invested in!") because it was full of interesting science, albeit with an agenda appended. Having never heard science be presented by anyone other than people affiliated with Answers in Genisis, I was struck with how open-minded and factual Bill Nye was. It is no coincidence that now, years later, I have left the church behind me, and am studying to be a physicist. Thank you Bill Nye, I'm sure I'm not the only one whose mind was changed that day.
So basically you’re regressing in life 🥱
On a other episode of "things that never happened"
Honestly it’s sad that u went from the truth to a lie
Beautiful ❤️ I'm glad you got there!
@@vtgrokz he died 3 days ago
Bill Nye, Your smugness make me want to gag. We’re kin to bananas? You’re bananas!
Yes signifiant portions of our DNA are similar to the DNA of a Banana. Like all of the dna that builds our specific cellular structure, all of the DNA needed to build the sodium-potassium pump which is needed by all living things, numerous other proteins that allow for any life form to exist, etc…. Study a bio text book, learn more about DNA and you can better educate yourself on the subject before dismissing it without understanding it.
Study biology, evolution and DNA.
It'll never happen. @@MrFossil367ab45gfyth
Well, when you spent years of your life trying to educate the population, but still have to deal with this. I would imagine it would drive some people into insanity; in Bill's case, frustration. Who could blame him!
I believe individuals, such as Bill Nye, can not be persuaded/convinced by intellectual argument. It can only be God's internal work that will ultimately "convince" them.
Yes, it is spiritual, I agree.
It’s by the Spirit that one is justified, sanctified and ultimately glorified. We can only be seed sowers. It’s never by human persuasion that one comes to Christ. It’s by the Holy Spirit’s gift of faith. That’s why you can have two intelligent and intellectual men on opposite sides of this issue. Both are smart and competent but one has a heart of flesh and the other a heart of stone. Without the Holy Spirit none of us would come to Christ on our own volition. Humans choose sin every time. But God has chosen us and that is a beautiful thing!
Bill Nye is always open for intellectual debate. These two are both absolutely convinced by their own experience that they will not budge on what they believe.
It is the difference between two friends talking verse two opponents jarring before a fight. Are you willing to listen to other ideas or are you locked in and showing up to fight
That is true for everyone. No one comes to God by their own reason.
Ken doesn't mind interrupting Bill at all. He doesn't want to give him a chance to speak.
It pissed me off so much!
Because Ken knows he’ll get destroyed if he lets Bill respond fully or answers his questions. Good strategy to avoid looking like you’re wrong.
@@TheThirdNight you poor soul
We must have watched different videos because all I heard was Ken trying to actually press Bill for an explanation or a point and Bill just randomly diverting to "I went to Japan once" and "climate change tho"
They both interrupted each other 😂 Ken and Bill are both guilty for this. Don’t act like Bill didn’t do it.
One thing I learned in Christ is not to argue with stubbornness, let God treat with him.
The proper way to say express the last part is woudl be "... let God *deal with him". 👍
Yup, thus says Matthew 10:14
"And whoever will not receive you nor hear your words, when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet."
When Jesus went to his home town He even decided He could do no good there and decided to leave since the people had already formed an opinion of Him as a poor carpenter's son.
"Now He could do no mighty work there, except that He laid His hands on a few sick people and healed them. And He marveled because of their unbelief. Then He went about the villages in a circuit, teaching." Mark 6:5-6
Ken ham was the stubborn one… y’all will blame anyone who goes against your confirmation bias 💀
Don't let any contradictory info in 😂
Ken is saying If there’s no proof it’s has to be God. Bill is saying we don’t know, that’s why it’s important to find a way to discover that.
This is a classic strawman. Ken appeals to the evidence of creation within our dimension (DNA, Sociology, "Natural" Laws, etc.) as a foundation for his belief in a creator (Law of Causality). Bill Nye is proudly making a claim that there is no God (atheism), which is not the same as humbly saying "I don't know" (agnosticism).
Bill is saying if there's no proof it can't be God.
The issue with that logic is that it makes no sense. Do you have to prove that a statement makes sense?
Ken is saying that he starts with a belief in the Bible and God can do anything he wants to. Bill is trying to say he starts with the evidence, but in reality he is probably simply starting with his belief in evolution.
Actually I never heard Ken say that there is no proof. If you assume that God exists, the whole universe becomes proof of his existence. I just wonder why Bill hates God enough to want to argue him out of existence. Maybe he views the world through the lens of a bad personal experience. My heart goes out to him, but he needs to think differently.
Bill Nye is a soldier for this. Debating with Ken Ham is a fast track to a severe migraine
Bill is too smart to learn the truth! I feel sorry for Bill.
Bill is too smart to learn the truth! I feel sorry for Bill.
Bill is the headache !
@@micahhull5126 don’t repeat yourself, it might give you a headache
@Micah Hull You don't even know the truth. You just know what the Bible says, and the Bible is not truth. It's a man made book. Revised many times.
Ham - “if nothing happens when we die if we were to die right now why does this conversation even matter?”
Bill- stares into the distance 😂
I mean nothing really does matter, but we give our lives meaning
"If we die and don't remember, then nothing matters."
I can't think of a more grotesquely selfish statement.
As though the only point of existence is you.
🤦♂️
You missed the *Entire* point, @@bruvvamoff.
@@THE-WAY_THE-TRUTH_THE-LIFE. Explain
@@bruvvamoff
He was using Bill's own logic against him
“I mean there’s a few of us”, seems like lizards had me dying
That sweet little girl brought tears to my eyes.
Poor child :(
I know I feel so bad for her
The second law of thermodynamics holds that entropy increases; that is, systems over time become more disordered. Therefore, both evolutionary theory and the second law of thermodynamics cannot both be correct.
… just a thought
ONLY in a closed environment.....that wonderful energy generator the Sun makes earth an open environment......please dont ape the incompetent creationist pseudo scientists.
What's science got to do with it. There's more on his side so he is right.🤗
You have to take into account closed systems vs open systems. Plus, don't you worry, disorder is coming. The sun will burn out. The universe will expand infinitely into nothingness. There's no contradiction
@@PeppermintPissy Except there is because everything is supposed to degrade over time, yet we have evolutionists claiming that somehow creatures can invent new genetic information via luck and random chance and improve over time.
@@lawrencecigary2134 Not really. Bill didnt show a lot science but a lot of faith in his beliefs.
Eye opening video. Ken asked Bill, “Why does it (life) matter, ultimately?” According to Bill, our purpose includes passing on genes, having feelings and the possibility of understanding Jupiter at its core. Bill also said, “The meaning of life is to live.” Sadly, in the U.S., we’re seeing homicides at an alarming rate. As of mid-February 2023, there have been over 70 mass shootings. If someone doesn’t believe in a God given purpose, they can’t truly value their life or the life of anyone else. Abortion, homicide, gender reassignment and many other societal ills are the consequences of having a hollow secular perspective like Bill‘s.
From a biological point of view, the chief purpose of life is to survive long enough to pass on our genes. It's what animals do. Humans are in the mammal family and are animals- we just have larger brains than other mammals.
I see it as if evolution was all there was to life, then it would be ' survival of the fittest ' for all its worth. There wouldn't be much of civilization as everyone's top priority would be overpowering the guy next to you and taking his food and his woman. Period.
Nobody would even BEGIN to care a flying fiddler about future generations or any advancement of science.
@@michaelszczys8316 Humans have evolved to be social animals (similar to gorillas, for example). Altruistic behaviour and working as a group increases the chance of survival and reproducing. Evolution explains why we like to live in groups. However, evolution has not equipped us to live in very large complex societies. This is why things go so wrong. Our primate psychology can't cope with the demands of complex technologies and societies. We haven't had time to biologically adapt to more complex living.
I think the same might be said for gorilla's as well, if it were just evolution.
Survival of the fittest.
Why should they be any different?
@@michaelszczys8316 I think people misunderstand evolutionary theory. It's the best adapted for the environmental (selection presuure) that survives long enough to reproduce. The allele frequency increases for advantageous traits.
Science changes? No Sir, science doesn't change at all; our understanding of science changes. Science is knowledge of the truth of our environment
This isn't a debate Bill you the GOAT
Nope
@@purelyrandom1230 how so
Bill is clearly the man with the most faith in the room.
Really? You sure your head is not buried in the send and you didn't see nor hear nothing.
@@Jeremiah17910 He's gonna need a lot of faith to believe in the Evolution Theory.
@@CrownedCow
How so? Do you have any proof beyond the Bible that god created the world in 7 days? What exactly is flawed about the theory of evolution.
@@henrylivingstone2971 I have proof for myself because I know God is real because he changed my life. God's word is the Bible, so knowing these two facts for myself at least... evolution cannot be true. Evolution was literally designed to explain Creation without the need of a Creator, because the modern world is growing to hate God more and more every single day.
But the way I put it is simple, you will never be able to explain the origins of the universe through a "natural" or "scientific" route. For example, what came first? Time, Space and Matter or the Big Bang? One must have started the other, right? If you had a Big Bang, what allowed for that to exist if there is no Time Space or Matter? If there's Space and Matter but no Time, *when* did you put the Matter in the Space for the Big Bang to occur? If there's Time and Matter but no Space, *where* do you put the Matter? All three things must exist at the exact same moment, in order for a universe to exist. But what caused that to exist? How did the Big Bang happen if these things never existed? If they existed, how? So I ask again: What came first? The Big Bang, or Time, Space and Matter? It's paradoxical. Both are invalid.
Not only that, our universe runs on the laws of physics as a whole. We can also use mathematics to interpret physics, if you've ever been to a physics class before you'll know this is true. Yet, 0+0=0. Isn't that strange? Nothing can't come from nothing, and yet it did somehow. How is this so?
Also, Einstein said, "Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another". Where did that first ounce of energy come from? It must have been created. I assume you'll need lots of energy for a big bang! So what came first, the Energy to create the Big Bang, or the Big Bang to create the energy? Once again, it's paradoxical.
No matter what, our universe must have been created by a supernatural means. There is absolutely no other way to spin this. Energy being created as stated above, would be supernatural. It just doesn't happen naturally!
You don't have to believe my story about my life being changed by God, since I am merely a stranger on the internet. But that is my proof. Otherwise, no. I cannot prove it any better than any other person in the universe.
@@CrownedCow
Well….that’s not really proof, that’s a justification for your beliefs. The Bible is gods word because YOU believe it to be so, it is not an objective truth.
And it takes as much faith to believe in the Bible as it does to place faith in evolution. However evolution is based in inherent truths, facts buttressed by the paleontological record and by micro models of evolution.
And the purpose of evolution wasn’t to outright prove the non existence of god, it was to explain the natural world in a way religion couldn’t. There were so many connections that did not make sense in the context of religion and evolution was a means of proving an origin of species outside the influence of religion. It isn’t because people hate god, it’s because the Bible is now understood not to be a literal interpretation of the world and it’s processes.
I love how Bill Nye says how there are far fewer christian scientists as opposed to secular ones. How does that qualify the secular ones as being correct? Science was often changed by a single person discovering things that contradicted what the rest of scholars believed at the time. The point is that science is not established by consensus or popular vote, so the fact that most scientists claim to be athiest doesn't really prove anything. Science is very political, and anyone even entertaining the possibility of an intelligent designer of the universe is ostracized from the community right away, so that may be a factor.
Fine, at best it is incidental. Francis Collins is a Christian. My understanding is that he does brilliant work.
A claim should be argumentable, but the existence of god cannot be proven and disproven. Just like a claim of mine that a omniscience spoon created the universe. It is not that secularism is right, if we debated a thing that cannot be proven and be disproven then we will just look like a fool. But if somehow a representation of a non-secular idea is presented, then the bible, Quran and other books should not be the symbol of that non-secular idea, but the very concept of god itself.
Good point. Creation scientists are not published because it goes against the narrative that atheists want to teach kids. They deem creation scientists as “non scientific”, though the theory of Macroevolution and old earth and assumptions with no real scientific evidence. The science points to the earth being thousands of years old and there being a global flood about 4,000!years ago.
@@globalcoupledances God goes by many names, but not evolution. Macroevolution is an idol god, based on no evidence. Microevolution is real, but only a fool would worship it as a god.
@@MichaelMichaelJr Do you even hear yourself? God goes by many names? Do you imply that a universal omniscience, omnipotent being will care about names? That it would care on our timeline? Our species? Hear yourself before spitting your faulty reasoning.
I am appalled by the way they edited this to make it look like Bill was confused
He was confused, by pure stupidity.
The title says that is what it is. Clips of Bill getting angry. So why did you watch it if it was disturbing?
@@IronMatt I’d be angry too if I was interrupted every two seconds
@rednaxelaproductions7560 people do get angry when they run out of good points to bring up, also. Just saying.
@rednaxelaproductions7560 people do get angry when they run out of good points to bring up, also. Just saying.
Ham asks a question, Nye answers.
Nye asks a question, Ham avoids/ignores the question and asks his own question to redirect/misdirect the conversation.
Bill Nye was so patient in his responses and tolerant of Ham constantly interrupting him.
Think about it guys, what reason would someone have in avoiding simple, logical, practical questions? Because that person doesn't have a reasonable answer. Plain and simple.
I understand that you are brainwashed and ignorant, just saying the word "evidence" isn't evidence. The fact is that there is not a single person on earth that can explain how life developed from nonlife.
I think it’s great that Nye went and they were able to have a civil conversation/debate - kudos to both and God Bless us all
If you ignore Nye's labeling scientists who believe in creation as incompetent , yeah very civil.😳
@@lawrencecigary2134 at least there was a dialogue in the first place is my point. Okay though
It seemed like nye had no idea what he was walking into. Like he wanted to leave the whole time once he knew who he was debating with and/or had no idea he'd even be debating. He just seemed to be caught in an awkward situation the whole time
@@HNIN1973 I agree to an extent but regardless I’m glad he went through with it to give both sides a voice
@Kayla Caffrey I'd agree but kinda seems messed up to blindside someone like that. Neither of them really did either side justice and now Bill just seems like more of a dbag for being unable to even consider the religious argument and no one could blame him. God is the king of Truth and if this rev or whatever he is did indeed mislead Bill into this debate than he does not know God. Not to mention Bill isn't even a real scientist so this should've been a slam dunk.
Bill said “ Adam and Eve were hard to believe but he legitimately believes we are from Mars”?
And we’re related to bananas.
Adam and eve are impossible to take seriously, and he doesn't state it as fact, but, it does remain possible that early martian fragments landed on earth with microbes spawned life on earth is what he said. Still wating for proof of a talking snake
@@nickt.7305 IKR!
@Nick T. amazing, someone as aducated as Bill, would believe that he is related to a banana. That's what happens when God gives someone over to a depraved mind because they refuse to aknowladge their Creator God.
@@Jeremiah17910 all life is related. That includes humans and bananas. The great thing about science is that unlike religion, it doesn't insist that you keep your mind small in order for your amazement to be big
Bill Nye the angry guy
12:16 Aron Ra just in the back minding his business 😂
It was too I'd say....?
@@RedRebel8l0
Poor Bill.
Yes, I feel sorry for anyone confronted face to face with creationist drivel. Sad to see how religion rots the brain.
The conversation around the 5-6 min mark made me think of Ecclesiastes.
As a Christian I’m embarrassed by Ken’s performance. Argumentative and pressing. He’s focused on winning an argument and has lost the plot.
I like Ken and agree with him, but I wasn't super impressed with him here either. I think the whole thing was kind of awkward. Two guys trying to talk over each other. At least he stayed away from insults though, which Nye had no qualms in doing.
I’m a Christian and I feel it’s weird to bring religion into a science conversation even though it feels right.
Well to be fair Ken really didn’t start this argument. Bill did when they went into the Ice Age section.
@@tylerdphoto Well when your religion literally tells you the origin of the universe I would say it's fair to bring it up in a conversation about the origin of the universe.
but then again you arent a Christian.
'i can prove that'
'prove it'
' I can't prove it currently '
Nye's point is that it CAN be proven. He is simply proposing an interesting possibility, not an idea he is devoted to. It can be proven with the scientific method, but if the evidence doesn't end up supporting it, that's fine. Compare that to Ken Ham. Ham is uninterested in proving anything because his mind is made up. The only evidence Ken Ham is interested in is that which supports his presupposed conclusion.
@@Rainb0wDElta technically they could say God can be proven too in theory, so theory isn't good enough he needs to do the experiment right in front of them.
@@onbored9627 The point you're missing is that Nye is not asserting that the Mars hypothesis is true. You're correct in that what he said does nothing to prove anything, but he wasn't trying to. His words were, "We have a *method* by which we can prove it."
@@Rainb0wDElta but he doesn't though, he's lying.
@@SpeakMakeGive How is it a lie? The scientific method has proven many hypotheses to be accurate. I don't know if the Mars theory will be supported or not, but it can be accepted or dismissed given good scientific practices.
PhD from Harvard is incompetent 😮. The disrespect is unbelievable…unbelievable like Bill’s belief.
There’s something called being extremely bias towards your religion. Just because you went to Harvard doesn’t mean you’re not subjected to be bias.
Believe it or not, people are still susceptible to bias. Even Harvard PhD graduates.
@@lukeives2801 Just because someone has a bias, doesn't mean they are incorrect. You can be biased in lies, while we can be biased in truth.
Is there science that suggests God? Either this person isn’t really a scientist or they don’t really believe what they say
@@kevinmiller6443 the truth of..?
"Why would you take a book's word for it when you can go out and experience it for yourself". I get the irony in me saying this but, oh my god. What a quote.
Bible is a collection of books written over a 2.800 year period
If we all have our own law of good, you end up with evil
What do you mean
Bill nye is my new hero
When my nephew was 4, he had no idea who Jesus was. He says to me "uncle, I have a message for you.", I said"from who?"... he pointed up and said "Jesus loves you and wants you to stop fighting him.".
It knocked me of my feet and threw me back. I quit drugs right there and went back to God. I am now a Good fearing man and try to do everything his way because my way of life was terrible and miserable.
Incredible testimony! ❤
All glory to God!
Did anybody notice in the beginning he said we're all animals and some of us are "lizards"
No, he said mammals. Lizards aren’t mammals.
You might be autistic, he was joking
@@gweilospur5877 Bill said "well of course, there's a few of us that seem like lizards." Directly insulting Ken, and Ken ignores it and continues on in his attempt to have a rational discussion. Start at 0:30
@@GG-fb9yr There is nothing rational in the mind of anybody who believes the universe is 6000 years old.
@GH-fb9yr yeah, it really does show who the mature one of the two.
I don't care for Nye; but Ken Ham comes across as subtly manipulative. The interaction with the girl; the facetious request to pray for Nye; his line of questioning.
He doesn't come across as interacting in good faith.
"Why would you take a book's word for it..."
Coming from a man that will claim authority from science books.
@@uolocur9356
We know who wrote the Bible.
Really, you can recreate evolution in an experiment. I would love to see that. I would like for you to go into a lab and make a dinosaur evolve into a bird.
You can repeat it and get the same answers? Then why does science change? If everyone is getting the same answers all the time, then that would mean nothing would need to change.
You are contradicting your hero Bill Nye. He said that one of the greatest things about science is that it DOES change. He even backs that up with the whole Pluto once being a planet and now it isn't thing.
The Bible has never changed. It has been translated numerous times, but that isn't a change. The original story still remains.
It is funny that you presume to know what would happen. Every major culture on the planet has some version of religion or spiritual belief. Don't you find that odd if there was nothing to it?
Science is just another religion when it comes to evolution. Just like Bill admitted, you have to accept some things on faith, because you have no proof of them.
Not surprising if bill git angry it was watching him give a lecture to chickens
No life after death but there is life after nothing?
Well said!
"We are such stuff as dreams are made of; and our little lives are rounded by a sleep".......need I state the author's name for you?
Excellent point!
except there wasn't nothing, nobody ever said there was nothing apart from your magic book, there was a quantum state
@@official2mt37 And who put that quantum state there? , If there was something, something or someone made it. If there was nothing, and then something appears, someone made it.
"your scientists and your staff, respectfully, are completely incompetent."
Bill Nye channeling Ricky Bobby...
He gets angry, does that mean he's wrong?
Being wrong makes him wrong.
@@williamreeve5376 I agree with that statement! Ken ham is wrong.
16:49 my favorite part 😂
How can Ken point to the girl and say to Bill 'Is she an animal'🤣🤣🤣
"How can Ken point to the girl and say to Bill 'Is she an animal'"
The mechanism is fairly complex so it is probably something best left to your doctoral thesis in neurology. Or just go with the answer, Yes, she is a mammal.
Bill would say you cant say its a girl
@marsmars9130 Good point. Strange how we live in a time where we supposedly can't know a girl is a girl, but the science on where we came from and how is so settled that we can't possibly believe it required actual intelligence to create everything we see, hear, touch, taste, feel and experience. Hmmm...
I don't but why does Bill believes gender is fluid and GMO don't exist?
@@marsmars9130 LOL and in 1 sentence Ken is now unarguably the most rational person in the debate.
Props to Bill for trying to explain what a fossil is over & over again without going nuts. Also, he’s a real scientist, not hard to research.
Incorrect, he has a degree in mechanical engineering
@Edward Li yes but he's using logical arguments from archeologists, biologists, paleontologists, mathematicians, chemists, physicists and astronomers vs......ken ham 😂😂😂 totally disrespectful of all those professional fields and as ludicrous as saying the earth is flat
He’s actually not a scientist. Silly rabbit
Matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, therefore no matter nor energy would’ve existed to do the causing. Consequently, whatever did cause the universe to exist, would need to be immaterial and exist beyond time and space! Genesis 1: 1 God creates time space and matter!
Entropy is somewhat opposite of evolution and why did this come into the universe if everything’s getting better. Genesis 2:17 says death came into the universe through the first sin!
First two chapters of the Bible not the 500th chapter or the thousandth chapter; explain what evolutionists have not explained;, The first two laws of thermodynamics!
DNA does not auto encrypt, it did not write itself the code writer is outside of the code. 3300 billion lines of computer code in 1 humans DNA, would fill the Grand Canyon 50 times of Books, let alone plant and animal DNA and it did not write itself! One person‘s DNA could stretch to the sun and back 61 times! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“.
John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did the world will not have enough room for the Books, telling of it“
Job 38:35 “were you there when I created the lightnings and they say ‘here we are!”’ This is God talking to Job!
3300 years later, James Maxwell discovers that light rays and electricity are two forms of the same thing!
The Bible Predicted telecommunications
@@farthing751
And???
A degree in mechanical engineering does not make you any of the things that he rips off from.
Why does anything matter ultimately... That's an excellent question ♥️
It is but that's not up to us. We make it matter for ourselves. Science is only concerned with how things work and not making us feel good.
There’s no real point, scientifically speaking. If you want to kill someone it doesn’t “scientifically” matter. But you know it’s “wrong” because it harms the species by ending a life, and by having people cast you out of society as a murderer. In prehistoric times that would mean you may not survive on your own. The point is to survive. It just is. Did you take biology in high school?
"give me an explanation" he starts to explain "no no no" doesn't let him finish a thought
And this is the “science” we are told to trust…
Yet wars were started because of religion
@@lukeives2801 yet number of people killed by atheism Is far far surpasses the number of people killed in all religion wars at all times combined.
Who's side r u on
Ah yes, the science that uses evidence rather than fairytales is so stupid lol. I don’t like looking at facts, I’d rather believe in stuff that’s impossible to prove. There’s no reason to believe the earth is 6000 years old, but I believe it!!
For over a millennia, people have turned to supernatural phenomena to explain the world around them. People praised the sun, moon, and stars as gods. Protestant Christians believed that other worlds and the sun rotated around Earth, which was a very self-centered view. In a time where religion was heavily present, people came up with a new way to think of the world. A way of questioning things through rigorous testing and proof. This was the scientific method. Galileo, the inventor of one of the first telescopes, was one of the first to challenge these beliefs. He proved that the Earth and other planets were the ones actually rotating around the sun, not the other way around. This man was way ahead of time, so far that the people of his time could not understand. As a result, he was punished; confined to his house until he died. The more we learn about the world through a logical and objective lens, the less we are inclined to blindly follow set traditions. Science in not a tradition or a religion. Its a way of thinking; method/test. Its used to prove things, explore questions, explain phenomena. Religion has failed that test. We have even gone to the moon. There is no existence of a moon god. Another problem is that what we know in science is factual. There are a lot of things we don't know and we aren't afraid to admit it. You can challenge the ideas in science, and if proven right, you will be awarded a Nobel Prize and your name will forever be embedded in history. If you want another reason to prove science's validity, then look around. The cars you drive, the houses you live in, phones, etc. I'm currently in mechanical engineering technologies and we learn about statics, strength of materials, and materials science. These are vital topics in civil engineering as well and especially in building houses/bridges. We study and analyze the forces and stresses that may be on certain structures, which are invisible entities. We don't see forces, we don't see gravity, but we have made a system that works. It has worked time and time again. You living in a safe home is the result of this. Everything around you that has been synthetically produced was the result of science. Even medicine.
What’s the point of life, if you are gone when you die? My answer would be just to have fun. I have fun while alive, and that’s what motivates me to continue living.
Dude same! I'm tired of the people in my life telling me it's wrong to murder people with an axe. It's fun for me, so I figure I might as well enjoy my life while I can since I'll die one day, plus it's not like they have the capacity to care once they're dead.
@@islowthingsdown Huh? Is that supposed to be a joke? What are you getting at?
The difference between the two is Bill is willing to believe if there is evidence and is not really trying to enforce atheism in his teachings. He literally is going by what he's seen and learned. Mr. Ham is just trying to save someone who is not at all in any trouble he's open minded like he said
Why would any believer have an open mind against God? That’s disgusting
@@skueky8181that’s literally what having an “open mind” is all about, it’s about being willing to change your beliefs based on evidence.
In reality Bill rejects any evidence that doesn't support his belief system in naturalism. He is committed to evolutionary theory even though it is weak and illogical.
When someone's life and eternal existence is on the line and you are given a mandate from the LORD of all creation to spread the message of salvation, you obey it.
@@skueky8181 so you aren’t willing to change (it’s disgusting 🤢) , but demand that other people change?
Use your own eyes. No country has ever built an all wood ship the size of the Ark. What you can see is a poured concrete foundation, beam on post framing, bolted and articulated steel gussets, etc. The structure was built like a barn/building and decorated to look like a ship.
She is not a young women she is a child.
a female child though
which ages into a woman
so
she's the young version of a woman
thus, "young woman"
and "young woman" is a common phrase used by older people to address a young female
and she is in fact a female and young. just saying.
Oh sh*t! You’re right! I’m so sorry I thought otherwise
Imagine Not Being A Scientist While Claiming To Be A Scientist
It was born out of a comedy routine, and he had a kids show. And I guess people just assume he was a scientist. He's as legit as Captain Crunch is a Captain.
🤭
If bill is a scientist like he “claimed” he would have to concede matter and energy cannot be destroyed only changed
So what happens to our souls when we die
@@jfs7327
A soul is not matter or energy. It’s a concept. A soul, or more realistically consciousness, is a byproduct of conscious living. Living is dependent on energy which derives from the consumption of food matter. That food matter is processed by the body to fuel chemical reactions in our bodies to fuel brain activity which can be interested as a “soul”. When we die the byproduct of that energy consumption, the consciousness or the “soul” is deprived of energy due to the failure of bodily functions. The body itself is still a store of energy due to the bodily functions still holding energy in the form of nutrients etc despite the lack of function as a result of being deceased. That energy is then transformed via decomposition and recycled back into the environment.
The soul or the concept of a soul is a byproduct of consciousness and consciousness is a byproduct of energy consumption. There is no inherent energy in a soul so it is not subject to the rules of thermodynamics.
@@jfs7327 Bill doesn't believe in a soul so that argument isn't useful towards someone like Bill. Instead a better argument is that since matter and energy can't be created or destroyed, It's physically impossible for the universe to have been created in any way Bill's "science" can explain.
I love how the guy on the right keeps asking Bill questions and he keeps interrupting Bill's answers.
Bill Nye The Science Guy is one patient man... Wow.
No he is rude and unable to accept not all agree with him. He constantly insulted them. I may not agree with Ham, but I don't think this debate form should continue. Be nice, not insulting. He doesn't know how to debate those that disagree.
Some folks will always prefer unintelligent design.
They prefer reality
@@middlegroundlogic
LoL.... Funny.... "Reality".
@@my1vice Yeah....talking snakes and donkeys
@@middlegroundlogic
The reality is you know nothing about what you mock and dismiss.
That’s an oxymoron design is always from intelligence! :)
I used to LOVE Bill Nye when he was "Bill Nye, the science guy". I stopped worshipping Bill Nye when he "woke" up and publicly declared his distain for people who refused to get vaccinated! Case closed.
He’s related to a Banana. How smart is that.
Yeah...dont get a vaccine that may save your life....Darwin awards anyone?
No one cares, boomer
You shouldn't have been worshipping any man to begin with.
You have likely never have spent a second of your life thinking about smallpox or polio. Why? Because of vaccinations.
When did it get HEATED?!
I’ve watched this more than once and I just noticed that Aaron Ra was there.
I'll bet he was talking about eukaryotes.
Bill is not even really a scientist. He’s a TV personality.
I believe he has an advanced degree in Engineering....that counts!
Never stops Mr. Rogers, oops, Mr. Nye from espousing things that even secular scientists are declaring to be problematic like Darwin's evolutionary theory.
Aren't they both?
@@daviddavenport9350 But does he have a degree in biology?
just like "Professor" Dave. and people believe these snake oil salesmen for some reason
They were both pretty civil.
Uhhhhh no Ken interrupted bill every second
12:14-12:20. Is that AronRa from Modern Day Debate in the background??
Im 32 years old now, and the fact that that Bill Nye the science guy is how I was taught science in grade school disturbs me in hind sight. They've been stripping God from us for decades and decades.
Yes bc god has no right to be taught in school. Religion is to be taught in churches and places of worship. School is for learning about literature, math, history, and science. They’re not to be mixed
Not really cause in the end. His lessons were non religion based And the idea of science overall contradicts GOD itself.
@@LordMathious yeah that’s what I’m saying. Billy bye never really went against religion. But the guy I originally commented to stated that it did
@@LordMathious atheist that were scientist have realized over the last several decades that there had to be a God, that it didn't make sense scientifically. Those that are agnostic as well that practice science have also said the same. Science and God commingle all the time.
Under that philosophy science would have never started cause Christianity is where science came from. People like Issac Newton believed the the world and life was designed therefore it should have design like fetures and would be intelligible.
Bill just gets completely indignant and parts of this. He contradicts himself at times. 🤣
He's just not a good debater. There were moments I wished I was there to answer Ken Ham.
Because we are tired of dealing with you silly Christians in a world full of knowledge and information.
@@CityChristina Knowledge and information is only valuable if it is true. Although you make up the zombie masses, the truth is not on your side. After your futility is finally realized, those "silly Christians" will live on in the truth.
@@CityChristina Calm.
@@kevinmiller6443source: some poor scribe when the average IQ is comparable to the current IQ of the dumbest fucker from highschool that you knew
there are eye witness testimonies of people seeing and feeling Jesus Christ after he was crucified, not as a ghost but a living breathing person and were willing to die for that. That's really really big claims that point to Jesus is reliable and spoke the truth.
Where are these witness claims written?
@Victoria S In the Bible. It's many different books combined. Chapters like Mathew/ Mark /Luke/John are examples of eye witnesses. These were people that claimed they saw Jesus after he was crucified. Chapters like Genesis talk about the beginning of time. Some chapters have different literary styles.
@@Futureyeti3 So its just circular reasoning.
@goodmicrophone1254 How on earth is that circular reasoning? The Gosples are historically verified events. Romans made reports about Jesus and that he was condemned to a cross dated around 50AD. The only part that's not historically verified is his resurrection. That's impossible to prove. All we have are eye witnesses. They scattered after his death. Why all of a sudden, they turn around later and die for him? Seems kinda odd they would steal a body to get killed for it. They knew telling people Jesus is alive again they'd be martyred for it. They lost literally everything for it, money/social status/power. All they got was their head cut off or crucified upside down, stoned, thrown to wild animals. All because they said Jesus is Lord.
Is it circular reasoning to say how math works with a calculator? Or to say a scientific process is real by pulling out a science textbook? Is it circular reasoning to say the iPhone 16 isn't out yet by showing you the Apple website and showing you the newest model is the 15? The only possible way to know what really happened in history is to have an eye witness testify it. People around George Washington were witnesses to him being the first US president and wrote it down around the time he and others around him were alive. That information has been preserved throughout time. Same thing with the Gosples. We have over 5,000 Greek manuscripts or pieces dated from the 2nd to the 10th century, all agreeing on the same thing. Letters outside the bible dated in the first century mention Matthew Mark Luke and John and a man named Jesus. You can't reference a book that doesn't exist.
Trust Jesus, dude, I've doubted. I've talked with friends who don't believe, and it got me to question the faith. I found that we can ensure that the events in the New Testament are true. There are far fewer hurtles you have to jump to believe than not to believe. You only have to believe in miracles. Either way, miracles have happened. No God, then life came from non life. If that's not miraculous to you, then I don't know what is. That's never happened in the history of mankind.
I apologize for the long message. You can't explain this in 1 or 2 sentences.
Yeah, belief in ghosts is real. Of the billions of people alive in the past century, show me one example of someone coming back from the dead - I mean really brain dead. Until you can show that this is possible, and then show me levitation of a spirit; until then Jesus is a figment of your imagination, a story that you can not back up!
"Science changes"
So then the Science ISN"T settled.
I loved that one too. Glad he admitted it.
If you die and nothing comes after, then why live? Because I am human who creates a meaning in my life, and going to leave my meaning to my child, or to my peers. my afterlife is the memory of me on this world. Inspire, Create, and Evolve.
Exactly. Ken had a very selfish way of thinking I would argue. He only cared for himself and the individual in that argument. Many things we do in our life period is for the future generation to experience and to use in their time of life. To experience everything that life can make you experience (ex: love) - which is just wonderful, right? To have that privilege and to GIVE that privilege to our children (next generation) is a great gift (depends I would say) and probably literally one in a life time. Would you agree?
@@patricklindkvist4067 I am a Christian, but I like to critically think about if there was no heaven and hell, honestly I would just keep moving on and leave something for other generations. I agree with you! Humans compassion for other humans is what truly matters, and what keeps us moving forward.
Technically bill nye isn’t a scientist he is an engineer. But he has clearly studied other sciences a lot
He definitely carried most of science class for sure
Look up what a chemical engineer is
@@sixxfinga1864not a scientist. Amongst those who boast the nomen of scientist, we all maintain scholarly work and credentials. He does not publish. Sure, you can say he studied science and makes science work as an engineer, but he does not conduct research or engage in the scientific process beyond the point of theory.
@@Yohanyothan he has a credible understanding of the subject matter
@@sixxfinga1864 which makes him a student or teacher even, but nothing more. Scientists contribute to the knowledge base.
Congratulations to both gentlemen for being gentle men!
Regarding Bill, I noticed he was kind of pleased with the thought that after death he is not quite done, but he seemed a bit worried a while later when he heard about second death... 😳
The earliest Hebrews thought that when you are dead, you're dead.....my father believed that as well!
@@daviddavenport9350 see 1 Samuel 28 to learn what ancient Hebrews believed and experienced about the dead.
That's right people like Bill want to have life after death but does not want to belive in the creator and giver of life.
Which is exactly the way those ideas are crafted to make you feel as to indoctrinate and control you.
@@natedogg4651 those are not crafted ideas but rather revealed realities.
Bill Nye got that Athiesm anger in him haha it's pretty funny to watch
Well it's probably more down to trying to figure out if Ken Ham is a fraudulent huckster or genuine in his beliefs. Also one suspects like alot of religious preacher so than he may be a pedophile. I don't think Bill Nye was comfortable with Ham and his touching of the little girl.
Yeah it's called- frustration arguing with fools.
@@lorenzolucifuge1653 the fool is the one that has a horrible temperament, Bill Nye isn't even a scientist and has 0 papers released. Ken Ham does
Human caused climate change is just what we call people being sinful. right! See, you do kind of understand Bill!
"What makes you think we're not related *to bananas?"*
I'm sorry, but that was the last sentence I'd assume from a scientist when explaining existence.
Edit: He didn't mean we're family but the sentence just made me die.
Related ≠family
Ok turns he isn't a scientist, but anyone who actually believes that we are any way related to a flipping BERRY is 🤪
@@nottavegan7311 but we are 🤨 and how isn’t he a scientist
@@ilovecheese9791 how in the world can u say with a straight face that a human being with flesh and a brain, was created using the same system as a banana. Similar circumstances produce similar outcomes. It makes no sense for your banana germ/dna/whatever to be remotely close to human.
@@ilovecheese9791 also bill Nye has no scientific credentials
But we are related to bananas. We share 60 percent of identical DNA to them
"I came from an alien"
oh that's reasonable
"I came from a human"
bro you're not using your head
personally that argument made no sense tho
I rewatched the video and fail to hear anyone make the claim? Oh you must be intentially misrepresenting his point about genetic seeding for early life on Mars i.e. "Martian". You are either a troll and intentionally misconstruing his point, or you are just ignorant. Care to share which applies to you?
Wait I’m confused. Did you think he meant we came from aliens like from the movies? Serious question. Also, what human are you saying we came from?
@@coltonsimms763 prob just ignorant lol. I didn’t realize how stupid I was
@@rednaxelaproductions7560 Our mother.
The amount of times Bill Nye gets interrupted just for this dude to add nothing of value to the conversation is infuriating
The moment Ken resorts to the bible, the conversation no longer addresses the issue. Religion offers nothing scientific, it has not and can not yield useful results to technological invention and prediction of the future. Ken loses credibility as an academic and scientist the moment he speaks of the bible. It’s mind boggling how many people of this current age still believe in God.
My favourite part was when Ken Ham said "It's Hammin time" and hammed all over the floor
Bill Nye sends a birthday card to his bananna.
😂
and this hamburger man thinks god exists
Relatively speaking!!🤣🤣
LOL
Banana.
19:30 I went to college too 😂 I love that answer
When I was in college Josh McDowell spoke on the main mall of the campus. The crowd was orderly, asked questions some politely disagreed with him, and all were respectful. Now, 40 years later, the students would all but stone a mall preacher at the same university.
Jesus is coming soon.
He got him there 😂
LOL. And Nye immediately tried to recover by committing the argumentum ad populum fallacy. THIS is why it is critical to recognize logical fallacies and understand how they are used to manipulate people into believing lies.
He obviously didn’t pay attention in science lectures🌝
My evidence-based belief is: People who promote a religion often benefit from it financially.
I remember school always willing to play Bill Nye The Science Guy, regardless of the school subject of the time... His apparent "beliefs" explains why Christianity has been on a decline. Look how upset these convos make him.😳👀😅
It really does. He doesn’t like God being brought up. I remember when he was asked God he said he didn’t want to talk about that.