Some months ago I take a cheap chassis and a cheap very little and narrow bodyshell.. I got the best Crawler in our garage ! It was so better than Axial and Traxxas to get the name of "The King". From then to now all the interesting job for us has been to make each Crawler get performance the most similar to "The King". This has made a great growth of performance for all our vehicles. ...in the end our "King" is quite similar to the vehicle in you video (except our is really cheap!) One of the simple teachings is that the main obstacle to crawling performance is the body shell !!
yep! I am awaiting a new RTR gatekeeper, gonna pull the cage off and sell, slamthe frame low and redo susp geometry, and get the powerwagon cab on it. I'm pulling any weight off the rear and top and get brass on the front! should be fun. I always wanted a low CG rig like this, but like your "king"....budget!
These are really just a logical design eventuality. Ultimately it comes down to a balance between scale and performance, and that's the magic of preference, and personalization.
Just built the Gspeed v3 beautiful green carbon on Capra axles and a dropped and chopped rc4wd hardbody. all that is left is the reefs servo that's in the mail and put wheels on it and hit the rocks. Also I'm on the east coast in western north Carolina and this build should be perfect for the location as well. Love the videos and all the amazing builds you showcase keep em coming and Happy trailing!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it. This whole covid got things held up here and there, but do check the GSPEED FB page and channel for updates. Good luck with the build
WOW WHAT A PLATFORM. Freudian caps, I must mean it. I'm amazed by the crawling footage. Clinging is more like it. Your channel is unmatched in the hobby! And then, you mention a place that is just magical for me: 2:118:42 and Moab too. Inspiring. I have only a toe in the water. A 1/18 Gelande II. I love it. "1/18" scale has it's advantages but I would love to go upscale. Thanks for the links! Thanks for the knowledge and energy!
It would be very cool to see a full build of one of the lcg crawlers. I think one of the most confusing things with these is knowing what parts to get for a complete rig. Obviously the electronics are easy to figure out, plus the tires etc. I dont think you could just buy the chassis then take an scxii or iii and take the rest of the parts off of it to complete the lcg unit. In order to get the best performance you need to get the right parts. Thanks for this video and I hope you do many more on this type of crawler.
Just built a axial raw builder's kit but only used the frame mounted up to all metal and brass axles with the same proline 46power wagon but I dovetailed the bed and add a headache rack and boom to build my belly dagger wrecker I think my body is even shorter if not exactly the same it's a beast nothing compares!
Leave it to the Caly peeps to come up with a "Lowrider" rock crawler.Frame reminds me of the old MOA's.I'll probably wait for the Vanquish version.Seriously though great inovation and who knows maybe we'll all be doin the limbo this time next year.Thanks for a look at whats"happening".
Belly dragging "cheater rigs"....clap clap clap well done. Way to help bring the discussion back to balance. So much hate up top on the portals......but it should go down both ways. Thank you.
This is one of the best vids in quite some time Francis , would like to see a more in depth breakdown or maybe even a build of one of these LCG belly scrapers 👍🏻
i run a wraith spawn with both my upper and lower links front and back extended .75 inches and have moved the shock mounts up .25 inches its amazing running 2.2s. lcog is the way unless you don't like replacing sacrificial plastic sliders.
Surprised you didn’t mention Holmes hobbies. They have a cf chassis with team garage hack, also have a bunch of out runners and small brush(ed/less) for whatever you need, tiny esc, a direct power servo, and JRH has his custom comp Capra build on the RUclipss.
That is a Gspeed chassis. G-speed is also responsible for the design collaboration with John Holmes for the chassis made by Team Garage Hack -TGH. I myself have a build in the works using their parts. I am glad to see coverage of this part of the hobby. Please do a chassis comparison using a set if control parts and making the only variable the comp chassis. I myaelf would like to know how G-speed, Team Garage Hack TGH-HH, Spare Time Hobbies W1v1, and Brazin Scale all time low chassis' compete against a fixed set of parts. In your crawlwr comp course. Thank you
You guys are really lucky with the amount of companies making aftermarket parts for rc, over here we can hardly find replacement parts, to get something it has to come from China, trying to buy from the US we almost pay more for shipping than what the part costs
@@RCReviewChannel yess.. check my channel i have videos of my gspeed v2 and v3 and v3 carbon. Works amazing. I use mamba micro x esc and holmes hobbies stubby 2700kv.
Thanks for the great video. Never seen these before, very interested. I'd like to see a fully Trx-4 Sport modded and these take on the same lines. Great video and great content as usual, your channel got me into crawlers and I'm never looking back 😎😎😎
The rails do come in a package deal. You can always swap parts when you break or decide to upgrade. See the GSPEED FB page for support. gspeedchassis.com
I'm kinda half way there. pretty much full droop setup on all my rigs I do a lot of climbing on rock similar to that pointy stuff. But on a mountain side. What I lose in ground clearance I make up in being able to get it in positions it would tip during weight transfer before.and much more stable when it gets steep.
I have 4 box kits from the major players 3 I built 4th is the Gen 8 AXE. I do like them. I want a quote cheater rig would love to build one, not sure I have the knowledge to pull it off. Be great to see a how to build series from start to finish. Another great video keep it up !!
Im a year late. Im finally building a belly dragger using gspeed and vs410 ultra. Im currently hoping to use the vs410 trans also. Wish me luck. Still trying to decide more class one style or more belly dragger style.
Lower than a pot belly pigs belly. Ten times better than a stock rig.it can go. More places than a stock rig .bellydraggers rock.🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷
Is it just me, or do all HH esc have that loud whine to them? I've heard john say that it's just picked up worse on camera, but any video you watch sounds the same. Pretty undesirable even if it's "just on camera". Thanks for the awesome content Francis! I watch all your crawling vids man. Keep up the good work! Atascadero is sorta far. Anyone as cool doing 1/10 crawling down in the San Diego area?
Really very technical rig that speaks performance, I've been following your videos for quite sometime now and this video showed me the rig I want to build, what's the name of chassis again for the class 2 rig? Where could I purchase the chassis? Thanks more power
Wow that LCG chassis is impressive would my trx4 sport swap right over to it? Also I just did a review of my upgrades on my trx4 I would be honored if you could check it out and possibly give me some advice
Nice truck Francis, could you put a lik below on where to get the vs4-10 pro Clear anodised, I can’t find in Australia I’ve looked everywhere. Alison a like on this new truck, might get one of them instead on a scx iii. Or just might grab the 3 of them, I hope the have Sorted the SCX iii shocks
RC Review/Francis thank you very much I’ve looked there they won’t ship to Australia but I will give them a call tomorrow I don’t wanna miss out on this vehicle.
Hey RC Review, I’m currently making a belly dragger with a stock SCX10ii chassis. I’m curious to know if you like the chassis mounted servo better than the axle mounted servo. Thank you!
Hey Francis! Long time no see! Glad to see you are into RC still. Just getting back after a 7 year hiatus. Excellent info,love the video. Are there local comps anymore? Hope to run into you at some point! John Hicks.
It is a possibility. Problem is these are usually month-long builds with problem solving, waiting for parts and optimizing. If we can do it in a quick, controlled manner, that would be awesome.
Take a look at the recent episode. I did a breakdown on parts and list of things needed as a base. You can also look up the GSPEED FB page for support or the channel as well. Good luck if you start one. gspeedchassis.com
One reason shocks are upside down is just in case there is any air bubble in the shocks, the air bubble will be at the bottom of the so the shock rod stays in oil during articulation and at rest Wheres as if the shocks are mounted straight and there is a air bubble, the air bubble is still towards the bottom of the shock body thats were the shock is at rest, and it moves without any oil at that spot
We have a couple banggood reviews coming. Trying to be selective since so much of their stuff is junk and it takes 6 weeks to find out, when they finally come.
Some months ago I take a cheap chassis and a cheap very little and narrow bodyshell.. I got the best Crawler in our garage !
It was so better than Axial and Traxxas to get the name of "The King".
From then to now all the interesting job for us has been to make each Crawler get performance the most similar to "The King".
This has made a great growth of performance for all our vehicles.
...in the end our "King" is quite similar to the vehicle in you video (except our is really cheap!)
One of the simple teachings is that the main obstacle to crawling performance is the body shell !!
yep! I am awaiting a new RTR gatekeeper, gonna pull the cage off and sell, slamthe frame low and redo susp geometry, and get the powerwagon cab on it. I'm pulling any weight off the rear and top and get brass on the front! should be fun. I always wanted a low CG rig like this, but like your "king"....budget!
These are really just a logical design eventuality.
Ultimately it comes down to a balance between scale and performance, and that's the magic of preference, and personalization.
Just built the Gspeed v3 beautiful green carbon on Capra axles and a dropped and chopped rc4wd hardbody.
all that is left is the reefs servo that's in the mail and put wheels on it and hit the rocks. Also I'm on the east coast in western north Carolina and this build should be perfect for the location as well. Love the videos and all the amazing builds you showcase keep em coming and Happy trailing!!!!
The green truck was amazing, I cant believe it got over the hills the way it did, fantastic,😀😀😀
Been building one, just get to picky about things and progress is slow. This show is the reason I started to build one.
That’s rad. Custom builds do take time, but it doesn’t stop after you’re done. Have fun with it
rc VUrooom thanks brother, my wife finally understands that there’s no end to this hobby. LOL
I didn't know these rigs existed. This is right up my alley tho. Ty for showing the basic blueprint of how the parts work together in these rigs.
Always willing to help. I was always asking questions and the community on the GSPEED FB page helped out a lot
Carbon fiber was all sold out, so I ordered myself an aluminum setup. Love me some variety in my crawlers, thanks for showing us!
Glad you enjoyed it. This whole covid got things held up here and there, but do check the GSPEED FB page and channel for updates. Good luck with the build
Bellydraggers the low down crawlers.sweet set up.🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢
WOW WHAT A PLATFORM. Freudian caps, I must mean it. I'm amazed by the crawling footage. Clinging is more like it. Your channel is unmatched in the hobby! And then, you mention a place that is just magical for me: 2:11 8:42 and Moab too. Inspiring. I have only a toe in the water. A 1/18 Gelande II. I love it. "1/18" scale has it's advantages but I would love to go upscale. Thanks for the links! Thanks for the knowledge and energy!
It would be very cool to see a full build of one of the lcg crawlers. I think one of the most confusing things with these is knowing what parts to get for a complete rig. Obviously the electronics are easy to figure out, plus the tires etc. I dont think you could just buy the chassis then take an scxii or iii and take the rest of the parts off of it to complete the lcg unit. In order to get the best performance you need to get the right parts. Thanks for this video and I hope you do many more on this type of crawler.
JamminJim42 that quite possible for scx10.2 , with very little mods
Yes that would be a interesting video.
So this chassis would be a direct swap from a SCX10ii... With very little mods all the components from a scx 10ii will swap over rather easy...
@@lancevalente8269 Have you done the swap? I looked closely at the transmission and it is quite different than the stock one.
Gspeed for the win,
Love my gspeed v3
Elevation changer 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
I couldn't remember the brand 'gspeed' on video. I kept saying 'lcg'. Oops.
Just built a axial raw builder's kit but only used the frame mounted up to all metal and brass axles with the same proline 46power wagon but I dovetailed the bed and add a headache rack and boom to build my belly dagger wrecker I think my body is even shorter if not exactly the same it's a beast nothing compares!
Leave it to the Caly peeps to come up with a "Lowrider" rock crawler.Frame reminds me of the old MOA's.I'll probably wait for the Vanquish version.Seriously though great inovation and who knows maybe we'll all be doin the limbo this time next year.Thanks for a look at whats"happening".
Would also like to see a complete build. Awesome stuff guys keep it up.
Belly dragging "cheater rigs"....clap clap clap well done. Way to help bring the discussion back to balance. So much hate up top on the portals......but it should go down both ways. Thank you.
Yes, options are cool. We love em all.
Great informative video and your personality always shines on camra GSPEED #1
TGH Colorado:) it's a Class 2 comp rig it only weighs around 6 pounds so it's very predictable;) I've had a Gspeed chassis for the past year excellent
I comp weekly with some belly draggers and also have one, I would say a vanquish rig will stick with them no problem
This is one of the best vids in quite some time Francis , would like to see a more in depth breakdown or maybe even a build of one of these LCG belly scrapers 👍🏻
I hope you were able to get information from the latest video
I am waiting on parts to finish building up my gspeed v3...can't wait ;)
I’ve broken down this rig several times. Always searching for that harmonious balance
I really want to see more on rc belly draggers..
I am building my first with a scx10 ii and a power wagon body.. I really enjoy customising bodies..
Lcg is what you want in crawling. They’re not cheating! 🤣😂
When on of our crew shows up with these on our trail crawler sessions, It is a beatdown.
We joke about that term a lot. Fun and games. Haha
Could you pretty please do a servo battle with the Holmes V3 vs the 3 Brothers G13?
Very interesting the video did not know that there were these possibilities to build these machines so effective, Gracias amigo, for the information.
You are very welcome. Really cool the many directions crawlers can go.
Yes please! More content like this please!
This is a really interesting video and I can see more more people building low profile rock crawlers. The information very useful. Great video thanks
You should come to Guam 🇬🇺! Trail with us out here. We have awesome back yard engineers that put out some awesome LCG rigs.
i run a wraith spawn with both my upper and lower links front and back extended .75 inches and have moved the shock mounts up .25 inches its amazing running 2.2s. lcog is the way unless you don't like replacing sacrificial plastic sliders.
Great video, any chance to get a more in depth on about actually building one like the green? Think many would be interested
Are you on Facebook?... We have a few groups you can follow that can help guide you to a parts list...
Great vid. I have seen a few on the trails and they are like spiders.
They act like spider but they don't look like them, which is cool.
Definitely looking into that salinas trans
Very good so far
Great choice for a center trans or TGH for forward mount. I love both
Surprised you didn’t mention Holmes hobbies.
They have a cf chassis with team garage hack, also have a bunch of out runners and small brush(ed/less) for whatever you need, tiny esc, a direct power servo, and JRH has his custom comp Capra build on the RUclipss.
Great performance and they look prettig good.
Sweet rig great articulation
CG and articulation!
This is the route I’m going with my E10.
That is a Gspeed chassis.
G-speed is also responsible for the design collaboration with John Holmes for the chassis made by Team Garage Hack -TGH. I myself have a build in the works using their parts. I am glad to see coverage of this part of the hobby.
Please do a chassis comparison using a set if control parts and making the only variable the comp chassis. I myaelf would like to know how G-speed, Team Garage Hack TGH-HH, Spare Time Hobbies W1v1, and Brazin Scale all time low chassis' compete against a fixed set of parts. In your crawlwr comp course. Thank you
For sure, thank you. Couldn't get the brand name out on video but yes, G-speed. Our crew hangs out with Gabe and they do impressive things.
You guys are really lucky with the amount of companies making aftermarket parts for rc, over here we can hardly find replacement parts, to get something it has to come from China, trying to buy from the US we almost pay more for shipping than what the part costs
I love gspeed chassis 💪🔥🔥
Impressive stuff here on our local lines.
@@RCReviewChannel yess.. check my channel i have videos of my gspeed v2 and v3 and v3 carbon. Works amazing. I use mamba micro x esc and holmes hobbies stubby 2700kv.
@@ametykathy Will do.
Hi I wanted to know how much the vehicle costs and if you have a website to buy from
Hi I wanted to know how much the vehicle costs and if you have a website to buy from
Great video 👌
Awesome rig really want to see another vid of it and could an axial chassis be turned into a low centre of gravity rig like this ?
You can try to, but I have never tried. I just plunged into the rails. It was an easier way to go for me. gspeedchassis.com
I run 4mm plugs in my trx4 gts shocks....love it
My favorite is my rc4wd bully 2 it's unstoppable
Thanks for the great video. Never seen these before, very interested. I'd like to see a fully Trx-4 Sport modded and these take on the same lines.
Great video and great content as usual, your channel got me into crawlers and I'm never looking back 😎😎😎
He already mentioned in the video his fully modded Trx4 sport doesnt have a chance, even his modded Vanquish cant run side by side with it 👍🏼
FC. Great topic and explanations. More, more, more... Thanks!
Maybe. This is like a black hole and i still have a day job. :)
My budget definitely doesn't allow for boutique RC Vehicles like these... But they SURE ARE impressive!!! 😎👌
Well if you have a Axial SCX10II and are looking to make it better this chassis is a direct swap...
The rails do come in a package deal. You can always swap parts when you break or decide to upgrade. See the GSPEED FB page for support. gspeedchassis.com
I’m very interested with does crawlers!
Very nice type of vehicle!
No holds barred performance
Very cool rigs
Awsome!! I wanna get into this low cg, thank you!:)
Sweet. I never thought I’d get into it, but it’s so much fun. Check out the GSPEED FB page of you have questions
I'm kinda half way there.
pretty much full droop setup on all my rigs I do a lot of climbing on rock similar to that pointy stuff.
But on a mountain side.
What I lose in ground clearance I make up in being able to get it in positions it would tip during weight transfer before.and much more stable when it gets steep.
very nice. Go all in!
How do you think a lcg rig in every other way but with portals perform you think?
Portals work great too. If you want some more feedback, check out the GSPEED FB page
@@thomasgross8289 best of both worlds really
I have 4 box kits from the major players 3 I built 4th is the Gen 8 AXE. I do like them.
I want a quote cheater rig would love to build one, not sure I have the knowledge to pull it off. Be great to see a how to build series from start to finish. Another great video keep it up !!
Im a year late. Im finally building a belly dragger using gspeed and vs410 ultra. Im currently hoping to use the vs410 trans also. Wish me luck. Still trying to decide more class one style or more belly dragger style.
Abu chance for a complet shopping list on the White/green truck! I NEEED THAT IN MY LIFE!
Can get you started with the chassis gspeedchassis.com/
Do you have a Facebook... We have a gspeed group on there...
Me too, that truck is awesome looking!
Love your channel and videos very helpful
Cool rig!
Nice crawls.
You should do a low cg build!
love that motor hum, great rig
Axial scx10ii deadbolt vs Redcat gen8 which one is better?
Awesome video! GSpeed Chassis for the win!!
You know it!
What transmission is in the green one looked really nice ....... never mind I found it lol
It’s a salinas concept designs. 35% OD
That place looks like a lot of crawling fun. Where is this crawling heaven located rc brother?
Thank you!
Thanks! Very interesting!
very cool trucks !
Lower than a pot belly pigs belly. Ten times better than a stock rig.it can go. More places than a stock rig .bellydraggers rock.🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷
I really like the power wagon design. May I ask where that test location is? San Jose CA somewhere. Thanks so much.
Sacramento. Love my V3
Is it just me, or do all HH esc have that loud whine to them? I've heard john say that it's just picked up worse on camera, but any video you watch sounds the same. Pretty undesirable even if it's "just on camera". Thanks for the awesome content Francis! I watch all your crawling vids man. Keep up the good work! Atascadero is sorta far. Anyone as cool doing 1/10 crawling down in the San Diego area?
sd scalers!
Like to now what kind of transmission should I used. Starting to built one and like to know more about them
Really very technical rig that speaks performance, I've been following your videos for quite sometime now and this video showed me the rig I want to build, what's the name of chassis again for the class 2 rig? Where could I purchase the chassis? Thanks more power
That’s rad. You can order on gspeedchassis.com. Check there and GSPEED FB page for most current status
I really like the look of that truck. Awesome! What body is the green and white one? Is it the pro-line 1946 power wagon without the fenders and bed?
Thanks. Correct
Northwest scale designs!!! Best out !
Cool vidéo my bro
Those are awesome
also be safe and great vids
Great 👍 videos!!!!
Thanks for the visit
Wow that LCG chassis is impressive would my trx4 sport swap right over to it? Also I just did a review of my upgrades on my trx4 I would be honored if you could check it out and possibly give me some advice
Check out spare-time hobbies and Exocaged rc’s optimus or grimlock build.
You most definitely can and they’re awesome.
sean P RC I wouldn't say you can just swap it over, with some modding & a lot of work you can make it happen.. 👍🏼
I don’t have experience with a TRX swap, but check out the GSPEED FB page. Someone there can assist or point you in the right direction.
Nice truck Francis, could you put a lik below on where to get the vs4-10 pro Clear anodised, I can’t find in Australia I’ve looked everywhere. Alison a like on this new truck, might get one of them instead on a scx iii. Or just might grab the 3 of them, I hope the have Sorted the SCX iii shocks
Here you go! snp.link/fc36e924 Such a great vehicle from our best merchant.
RC Review/Francis thank you very much I’ve looked there they won’t ship to Australia but I will give them a call tomorrow I don’t wanna miss out on this vehicle.
OK i want to watch overdrive versus stock drive ,even reverse driven and extreme side hilling.
Nice dude
How strong are the Carbon fiber rails compared to traditional metal? I’m going to build one of these!
Hey RC Review, I’m currently making a belly dragger with a stock SCX10ii chassis. I’m curious to know if you like the chassis mounted servo better than the axle mounted servo. Thank you!
Building one here and there on hoz chassis with scx10.2 axles
Hey Francis! Long time no see! Glad to see you are into RC still. Just getting back after a 7 year hiatus. Excellent info,love the video. Are there local comps anymore? Hope to run into you at some point! John Hicks.
What up good buddy. I remember you well! Where do you live now?
RC Review Still near the old Nor-Cal Hobbies. Busy as ever but finally got back to RC and I always loved crawlers. We need to get together sometime.
When I bought my TRX-4 Sport on the Traxxax website, they asked me where did I see it advertised. I put in RUclips RC Review.
nice
Also what’s a good controller for the Gen 8 without breaking the bank.
I was building belly dragger crawlers in 2008
You are what we call a pioneer! Any photos?
I built up a twin hammers to work like this, may be an option for somebody looking to purchase something and customize from there.
Sounds great!
I like this Frankenstein crawler, very unique and capable. How much does something like this cost?
In the $900 range
I want a belly dragger, Can you do a build video on one?
It is a possibility. Problem is these are usually month-long builds with problem solving, waiting for parts and optimizing. If we can do it in a quick, controlled manner, that would be awesome.
Take a look at the recent episode. I did a breakdown on parts and list of things needed as a base. You can also look up the GSPEED FB page for support or the channel as well. Good luck if you start one. gspeedchassis.com
another awesome video & vehicle!! whats the ground clearance on the lcg? if you mentioned it in the vid & I missed it, Sorry
Not sure. We'll measure.
@@RCReviewChannel Thats fine, I was just curious. Thank you
It sits about 2.5” from skid to the ground
Please, sir. I want more!
I have a home made belly flopper delran chassis sporty that i comped back in the day 2008ish I changed the body and now call it a RATROD..
Can you do toyzuki v2 or v2.5 plz
Is that Orange Vanquish truck at the end having problems on the sidehill because of overdrive gearing?
No sir it just cant hold that side hill....
What location do you film these videos? You mentioned Mt. Diablo so this must hopefully be in the a Bay Area somewhere. Thanks!
I would like to build one like this one do you have any links of where I could buy all the components for the build. Thanks
Do you prefer a Low CG crawler or a rig with portals and high clearance?
One nice thing about portals is you can get brass portal axle covers which puts the weight below the axle so its kind of like the best of both worlds.
For smooth trails with extreme climbs and sidehilling, Low CG for sure. Rock rocky climbs, and trail running, high clearance is king!!!
@@RCReviewChannel Thanks for the great answer, I really enjoy your videos!
Cut springs, run full drop spring mount Lil bounce win flat ...
What is ur opinion on upside down shocks to lower CG? Been changing the oil in my shocks and thought it might be a good idea for a crawler
Some guys do it to help the LCG and some do it so the shocks wont leak.... Its really just a preference thing
One reason shocks are upside down is just in case there is any air bubble in the shocks, the air bubble will be at the bottom of the so the shock rod stays in oil during articulation and at rest
Wheres as if the shocks are mounted straight and there is a air bubble, the air bubble is still towards the bottom of the shock body thats were the shock is at rest, and it moves without any oil at that spot
hey, would u do a banddgood special? Like get the Wpl c24 and build it and whats the best upgrades if you want something cheap?
We have a couple banggood reviews coming. Trying to be selective since so much of their stuff is junk and it takes 6 weeks to find out, when they finally come.
RC Review yeah true. I buy from places that are legit and sell good reputable products with dependable service and delivery