I'm a noob. But I'd like to know does the Black magic RAW footage with the lumix would be the same quality just like the Black majic RAW while using BlackMagic camera? Thanks
Please, does Sigma FP may record SIMULTANEOUSLY Braw to card in Blackmagic video assist AND cdng to external disk via USB? (Of course, question is about safety of dual recording possibility.) Thanks in advance for answer, I didn't find it nowhere, just Simga SEO mentioned it is possible during interview for NFilmSchool...
Did you turn on raw recording on the record tab of the s5iix? And on the record tab of the video assist change it to blackmagic raw? If you want to send me a pic of your settings on IG, send a DM to @ansonandco
Very cool thanks 🙏 Now the real question is would shoot braw over CDNG ? Do you have the same flexibility for color grading , hightlight recovery …. I know it’s maybe a lot to ask but a comparison between BRAW , pro redraw and CDNG would be such a very helpful video I’m struggling between a lumix S5II or a ZCAM that can shoot ZRAW then converted to CDNG What do you think 🤔 ❤
If you hang out for the end of the video, I actually put together a video last year talking about why I prefer BRAW over CDNG, but I don’t think I included direct comparison footage. Yea CDNG is a digital negative and is actually RAW versus BRAW which some argue is not true RAW, but I do appreciate the look of BRAW and often prefer it. I have not messed around with R3DRAW, so I would not be a good authority on that comparison 😉 As far as helping with your decision, what are you filming?
Thanks 🙏 for your very fast response !!!! I have watch the video until the end ?? maybe because I’m French the hangouts , I don’t understand , i ve just watch your last year vidéo between CDNG and braw 😊 Very clear about size files , workflow in General is better braw I just don’t get how much flexibility for recovery there is between those two I ll check other channel I will find a video comparison:) So far I’m filming nothing 😂 yet I Will start filming for music video and maybe start weddings for incomes 🎉 But the goal is music video content
@@Outlabyrinth I only say stay til the end cause that video is on my end screen suggestions. As far as what I would choose for that shooting scenario. I personally would choose the lumix. Weddings and autofocus are very good and the IBIS will be helpful
I am definitely up for helping, this is something I typically don't get super technical on, but there are definitely videos out there for DR. which camera are you inquiring about?
I’m having a problem connecting it, my HDMI Raw Data Output won’t turn on it keeps saying “ This item cannot be set in the current mode System Frequency 24.00Hz CINEMA)”
You may need to change you frequency on your camera. If you see my recent gh7 settings video, I show you where this setting is, you’ll need to switch it back to the non cinema frequency most likely
Very helpful video Anson. I have a couple of questions regarding this set up. Regarding viewing on the fp's output, when you set raw recording on the fp, does it use the color off profile or something else? Can you change color profile on the fp when out put to raw? On the video assist, when taking the raw signal from fp, which built in LUT do you recommend to make it better for viewing since the fp does not have a Log profile or its own lut, is the BM film ok?
Good questions! 1. It does put the FP into the color off profile, and you cannot change it. 2. As far as a LUT, I use my own custom LUT that helps me see an end product. It’s been forever since I made it, but I’m pretty sure I made it as a Rec 709 conversion LUT with footage straight out of camera, and put a grade on top of it. It’s gets me 95% there most of the time.
@@Ansonandco thank you. I'm about to pull the trigger on a video assist as I have 2 pockets and need the BRAW for the fp to make them all similar as far as post workflow and archiving easier. Your videos and your posts at the fp forums have been very helpful.
@@RamasolaProductions that’s awesome, I’m glad I could help. I will say there may be a learning curve if you’re matching the fp with an actual BMD pocket camera, but you can definitely make it work
@@Ansonandco I had no problems matching them in my work using the CDNGs with the Pocket's BRAW, it will be the BRAW file from the fp that I might need to have to make a workflow. I might need your help with that. :)
I think I still prefer the fp, there is something special about the image that it just seems more filmic, but if I need AF the IIX is very close enough that I’m not sad about it. The one thing that drives me nuts about BRAW on the IIX is that 4k is cropped, no matter the frame rate. And there is no 6k open gate, so for my projects where I use the IIX I’d rather just use pro res or all-I
@@Ansonandco Very Interesting. I was thinking that maybe the s5 would have a "better" image due to the 6K sensor but I am thinking of buying an fp because it fits my needs slightly better
Hi Anson. Not sure how to formulate this, but does the fp-L have less artifacting when shooting 1080p, if you crop into the sensor and get 1 to 1 pixel? Essentially using. it as a s16 camera? When shooting slow motion 1080 on the fp, I do sometimes get line-skipping artifacts in straight lines. Kind regards -Ola
I shot a ton of 1080 footage in my trip to Croatia, I didn’t notice a ton and I even shot full frame for a lot of it. The fp L does have a OLPF filter and so it’s reducing artifacts a little. BUT if you do want a 1:1 readout it will need to be close to a s16 crop yes. If you want to check out test footage, look at my fp L in 2023 video I did a couple months ago, it has 1080 footage in there if there is any slow motion, obviously that is 1080
@@Ansonandco Thanks :) I will have to see it again. I love "kings landing" :) have been there aswell, with the og bmpcc :) Have you tried using s16 glass on the fp-l ever ?
@@film20plus it’s such a beautiful location. It was hard for me to go out and shoot in my hometown after that lol I have not tried s16 glass on the L….🤔 may have to try it out!
Nice nice...but we still don't which BRAW you like more FP or S5iiX...for myself having BRAW and prores I found a converted prores raw HQ footage from S5 to CDNG the best ever image quality coming from an S5org...much better vs BRAW but huge amount of data...for my self I decided to invest in lights and wait for now to get a new camera...I try to get away from GAS and improve quality of footage and skills
@@film20plus OG is a little better in low light, due to less pixels. And rolling shutter is slightly worse on the L, but that is again due to more pixels. But I’ll be honest I don’t notice the rolling shutter a ton… so that one is a wash for me. Otherwise they are mostly the same
If you are using the Lumix S5iiX with the Video Assist 12G, remember you also need the Blackmagic Video Assist 3.10 Update or later, otherwise you'll get "Codec Not Supported"
newbie here. I don't understand, why can't you shoot in raw in the camera you really need a external monitor just to do it? I just want to get the best possible video quality that gets me the most to work with in my editing software. I work with the gh6 and S5 mark ii primarily.
The FP can do uncompressed raw in camera. The lumix cameras cannot. Compressed raw can only be recorded externally due to patents by RED. So it’s just a limitation of the hardware but also a legal restriction
@Ansonandco I've heard about noticeable latency on the ninja but if you don't see a major lag then I'm definitely going with the video assist. I would love to see a video in latency if you do one 🙌🏾
@@Ansonandco I already tried s5iix braw on a car commercial, maannnnn, the colors are just beautiful!, these makes me leave my PYXIS at home when i want a lighter set up haha
@@davidpossien3061 it’s good, since its 12bit i can still manage to denoise or not in post. I don’t like the internal denoising used by most brands these days specially the fx3 where i dont have the option to turn the denoising off, it doesn’t look organic
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Would you all be interested in a deeper dive look into the settings I use with the video assist? LIKE THIS COMMENT if you’re interested
Sure why not
@@joenicklo 😂😂😂
Anson, this timecode switch was a life saver bro, going crazy not knowing how to get record trigger working! Keep doing the good mahi.
I'm so thankful trigger record was in here for the S5IIX. Thanks!
You’re welcome for that my dude
very informative and straight to the point
Thanks dude!
Hi Anson! Great video, I believe it is the same setup for an S5II with RAW unlocked? Also, is it possible to record open gate 6K on the video assist?
Did you ever find out if opengate is possible
@@JurassicTrance it is not. Blackmagic wants to keep BRAW open gate to their own camera, it would seem
a very very valuable video Anson, the BRAW option I feel its like cheating 😂 but amazing to have, great video brother !
thanks dude! yeah I see more of a reaction to all the questions i've gotten over the years about BRAW set up hahaha so hopefully it's helpful!
anson,which one will you advice me between panasonic s5mkiix or sigma fp l for video
What are you filming?
For church programs,
@@AdekunleJohnsonEseyin probably lumix s5iix
Thank you very much sir.
Shout out from Nigeria
Whats the difference between the 5" and 7" video assist, aside from the larger screen?
Two mini XLR ports, a lan C port, dual sd card slots. I believe that is it
I'm a noob. But I'd like to know does the Black magic RAW footage with the lumix would be the same quality just like the Black majic RAW while using BlackMagic camera? Thanks
Good question. It will not be. The sensor is
Calibrated differently. And it technically is shooting in v log, not blackmagic film log
Which combination do you prefer: s5iix + braw or sigma fp + braw?
Sigma fp and BRAW. The s5iix gets really grainy and you lose open gate
Please, does Sigma FP may record SIMULTANEOUSLY Braw to card in Blackmagic video assist AND cdng to external disk via USB? (Of course, question is about safety of dual recording possibility.) Thanks in advance for answer, I didn't find it nowhere, just Simga SEO mentioned it is possible during interview for NFilmSchool...
Hi, it is not possible. The FP does no dual recording of any kind.
I’m getting “codec not supported” on my black magic assist, even after following your instructions. My lumix s5 iix is set for manual video.
Did you turn on raw recording on the record tab of the s5iix? And on the record tab of the video assist change it to blackmagic raw? If you want to send me a pic of your settings on IG, send a DM to @ansonandco
Thank you for assisting me to link my LUMIX S5 iix to my BM video assist.
Can I record in braw at 4:4:4 since the camera only outputs 422?
You should be able to record all codecs of BRAW
@@Ansonandco thanks
Does the FP or FPl support trigger recording, or must one use the video assist?
Trigger recording to the video assist is supported
Very cool thanks 🙏
Now the real question is would shoot braw over CDNG ? Do you have the same flexibility for color grading , hightlight recovery ….
I know it’s maybe a lot to ask but a comparison between BRAW , pro redraw and CDNG would be such a very helpful video
I’m struggling between a lumix S5II or a ZCAM that can shoot ZRAW then converted to CDNG
What do you think 🤔 ❤
If you hang out for the end of the video, I actually put together a video last year talking about why I prefer BRAW over CDNG, but I don’t think I included direct comparison footage. Yea CDNG is a digital negative and is actually RAW versus BRAW which some argue is not true RAW, but I do appreciate the look of BRAW and often prefer it.
I have not messed around with R3DRAW, so I would not be a good authority on that comparison 😉
As far as helping with your decision, what are you filming?
Thanks 🙏 for your very fast response !!!!
I have watch the video until the end ?? maybe because I’m French the hangouts , I don’t understand , i ve just watch your last year vidéo between CDNG and braw 😊
Very clear about size files , workflow in General is better braw I just don’t get how much flexibility for recovery there is between those two
I ll check other channel I will find a video comparison:)
So far I’m filming nothing 😂 yet
I Will start filming for music video and maybe start weddings for incomes 🎉
But the goal is music video content
@@Outlabyrinth I only say stay til the end cause that video is on my end screen suggestions.
As far as what I would choose for that shooting scenario. I personally would choose the lumix. Weddings and autofocus are very good and the IBIS will be helpful
Is it ok to plug the BMVA and sigma fp to the same V mount battery?
I would advise to use a v mount adapter to regulate the power of both, but other than that it should be
The result is similar of filming with the bmpcc? The result color is Gen5?
It is!
@@Ansonandco Gen 5 color??
@@aviramestudi sorry that was my initial response was for gen 5. As far as the BMPCC… are we talking about the OG?
@@Ansonandco the 4k
can you please do an in-depth Braw dynamic range comparison? and highlight recovery
I am definitely up for helping, this is something I typically don't get super technical on, but there are definitely videos out there for DR. which camera are you inquiring about?
@@Ansonandco Braw of S5IIX and cinema DNG of sigma FP at 4K... Both formats supports highlight recovery rt
@deeshith1 On a different video. A reviewer had stated. That both Sigmas actually have. Nine stops of dynamic range.
Can you shoot opengate BRAW?
Unfortunately no
I’m having a problem connecting it, my HDMI Raw Data Output won’t turn on it keeps saying “ This item cannot be set in the current mode
System Frequency 24.00Hz CINEMA)”
You may need to change you frequency on your camera. If you see my recent gh7 settings video, I show you where this setting is, you’ll need to switch it back to the non cinema frequency most likely
@@Ansonandco which frequency do you use?
Very helpful video Anson. I have a couple of questions regarding this set up.
Regarding viewing on the fp's output, when you set raw recording on the fp, does it use the color off profile or something else?
Can you change color profile on the fp when out put to raw?
On the video assist, when taking the raw signal from fp, which built in LUT do you recommend to make it better for viewing since the fp does not have a Log profile or its own lut, is the BM film ok?
Good questions! 1. It does put the FP into the color off profile, and you cannot change it. 2. As far as a LUT, I use my own custom LUT that helps me see an end product. It’s been forever since I made it, but I’m pretty sure I made it as a Rec 709 conversion LUT with footage straight out of camera, and put a grade on top of it. It’s gets me 95% there most of the time.
@@Ansonandco thank you. I'm about to pull the trigger on a video assist as I have 2 pockets and need the BRAW for the fp to make them all similar as far as post workflow and archiving easier.
Your videos and your posts at the fp forums have been very helpful.
@@RamasolaProductions that’s awesome, I’m glad I could help. I will say there may be a learning curve if you’re matching the fp with an actual BMD pocket camera, but you can definitely make it work
@@Ansonandco I had no problems matching them in my work using the CDNGs with the Pocket's BRAW, it will be the BRAW file from the fp that I might need to have to make a workflow. I might need your help with that. :)
what media is required to shoot in BRAW?
Either SSD or sd cards
Fxxk yes! Timecode through HDMI is the most part we want. Pickup the last piece of part S5iix missed
Thanks Anson. Is 4k the max you get on the video assist or is it possible to get open gate?
It's not available on FP yet
What image do you prefer of the 2 cameras when shooting in RAW?
I think I still prefer the fp, there is something special about the image that it just seems more filmic, but if I need AF the IIX is very close enough that I’m not sad about it. The one thing that drives me nuts about BRAW on the IIX is that 4k is cropped, no matter the frame rate. And there is no 6k open gate, so for my projects where I use the IIX I’d rather just use pro res or all-I
@@Ansonandco I see. So you are using 4K BRAW on the lumix s5 iix?
@@dimitris.tsakalas no I am primarily using 5.9k on the IIX
@@dimitris.tsakalas … just for the full frame support
@@Ansonandco Very Interesting. I was thinking that maybe the s5 would have a "better" image due to the 6K sensor but I am thinking of buying an fp because it fits my needs slightly better
thank you bro!
Of course!
Hi Anson. Not sure how to formulate this, but does the fp-L have less artifacting when shooting 1080p, if you crop into the sensor and get 1 to 1 pixel? Essentially using. it as a s16 camera? When shooting slow motion 1080 on the fp, I do sometimes get line-skipping artifacts in straight lines. Kind regards -Ola
I shot a ton of 1080 footage in my trip to Croatia, I didn’t notice a ton and I even shot full frame for a lot of it. The fp L does have a OLPF filter and so it’s reducing artifacts a little. BUT if you do want a 1:1 readout it will need to be close to a s16 crop yes.
If you want to check out test footage, look at my fp L in 2023 video I did a couple months ago, it has 1080 footage in there if there is any slow motion, obviously that is 1080
@@Ansonandco Thanks :) I will have to see it again. I love "kings landing" :) have been there aswell, with the og bmpcc :)
Have you tried using s16 glass on the fp-l ever
?
@@film20plus it’s such a beautiful location. It was hard for me to go out and shoot in my hometown after that lol
I have not tried s16 glass on the L….🤔 may have to try it out!
can you do a comparison video between FP and S5iix
🤔
Can you be recording CDNG on external ssd and simultaneously only MONITOR it via VIDEO assist? 10x beforehand
Nice nice...but we still don't which BRAW you like more FP or S5iiX...for myself having BRAW and prores I found a converted prores raw HQ footage from S5 to CDNG the best ever image quality coming from an S5org...much better vs BRAW but huge amount of data...for my self I decided to invest in lights and wait for now to get a new camera...I try to get away from GAS and improve quality of footage and skills
If I had to pick, I think I still prefer the image of the fp but the iix is close
@@Ansonandco any differense between the og fp and the fp-l, now that you have used both for a while?
@@film20plus OG is a little better in low light, due to less pixels. And rolling shutter is slightly worse on the L, but that is again due to more pixels. But I’ll be honest I don’t notice the rolling shutter a ton… so that one is a wash for me. Otherwise they are mostly the same
@@Ansonandco Thanks!
@@film20plus of course!
Are there any ISO or IBIS restrictions when shooting Braw on the S5iiX?
If you are using the Lumix S5iiX with the Video Assist 12G, remember you also need the Blackmagic Video Assist 3.10 Update or later, otherwise you'll get "Codec Not Supported"
you just saved me a headache
Is the blackmagic raw with the s5 12 bit?
Yes it is
newbie here. I don't understand, why can't you shoot in raw in the camera you really need a external monitor just to do it? I just want to get the best possible video quality that gets me the most to work with in my editing software. I work with the gh6 and S5 mark ii primarily.
The FP can do uncompressed raw in camera. The lumix cameras cannot. Compressed raw can only be recorded externally due to patents by RED. So it’s just a limitation of the hardware but also a legal restriction
Hows the latency with the video assist?
Not super noticeable, I’ve not run official tests on it, but it’s never stuck out as especially bad at all
@Ansonandco I've heard about noticeable latency on the ninja but if you don't see a major lag then I'm definitely going with the video assist. I would love to see a video in latency if you do one 🙌🏾
@@novaflowproductions hit me up on IG if you have one and I’ll send you a test
@@Ansonandco sounds like a plan I'll do that now
Great job, son-I love you, mom
thanks mom! love you too
@@Ansonandco Ahhh so sweet
it still crops on the s5iix when using 4k 60fps braw.
Yea it does
@@Ansonandco I already tried s5iix braw on a car commercial, maannnnn, the colors are just beautiful!, these makes me leave my PYXIS at home when i want a lighter set up haha
@@johnzuluetafilms5226 how's the noise?
@@davidpossien3061 it’s good, since its 12bit i can still manage to denoise or not in post. I don’t like the internal denoising used by most brands these days specially the fx3 where i dont have the option to turn the denoising off, it doesn’t look organic
Your explanation for the S5iix is shady. But thanks anyway
Interesting…
I dont give shit about the sigma, just stay with the S5iix
Hahaha preferences? Both are heavily used for any given project. Sorry dude
Will I still be recording in 4kdci if I dont have a monitor connected? I just have an ssd connected via usb C?
If you are referring to the SIGMA, no you will not be. It only records UHD and not DCI. The s5iix does record DCI, but the fp/fp L do not
@@Ansonandco Would it record Dci if you were recording to the atomos ninja v?
@@nicoharken6704 I just tested the ATOMOS NINJA V and if I remember it also supports 4k DCI. Basically the FP only does 4k DCI over HDMI at this time
Will the fp still use all of its hdr even when your shooting 12 bit 4k at 23.98?
I’ve found the shadows are a little harder to recover in BRAW than CDNG, but it’s still pretty decent