I professionally use both a 6Kpro and a s5iix. What I will say is blackmagic will always natively a more cinematic, soft, feel. HOWEVER: If you put a 1/8 Pro-mist in front of the s5iix and use Phantom Luts, the image is VERY close. I use a K&F concepts filter in a Tilta Mirage mattebox. The added layers of glass lend itself well to soften the image more like the 6Kpro. After discovering this on a shoot where I was using both cameras with Rokinons and good lighting, I have found myself sticking with the S5 more and more. For anyone who is a hobbyist or anything other than a filmmaker who is on set, S5iix will keep up with what you want, and can be stripped back to a lightweight fantastic stills camera.
I love my s5ii. It fits everything I need. Helps too that it takes photos superbly as that’s still part of my wheel house. You’re gonna be fine regardless of choice here. If you’re looking for a camera nowadays you really can’t go wrong.
As an S5iix and BMCC 6k owner i could say that both are Amazing but they have different strengths and weaknesses, S5iix in a few words is: Great autofocus, lightweight beast and very good low light capabilities. And BMCC 6k is: Best Cinematic Look, 6k 3:2 Braw up to 48fps and 6k 2.40:1 Braw up to 60fps.
Love the concept. I have an S1+BMCC6k. While I enjoy having options, particularly when working with different clients, I really enjoy the boundaries put in place by the 6k. I shoot like THIS and work around THOSE limitations, and the results come out great. Sure, I can't use it for certain applications (e.g. vlogging or unsupported run and gun), but using it as intended offers incredible results. Absolutely love this build and will be looking forward to seeing more footage.
Its great to see creative rigging videos like this, nice work. For me personally the Pyxis is ideal but I have specific use case scenarios. I will never need IBIS but I might not go BM if I did. There are advantages with its internal raw sone of which you highlighted. I'm also very lazy & love their menu system 😋
It really comes down to what type of productions you're doing. Blackmagic is great for indie films and some film style branded content shoots. the Lumix S5IIX is great for run and gun doc style shoots. Both are great tools.
The color differences are probably mostly from WB differences between the two brands. I have found 5600k can have a 1000k color difference between cameras. Same with tint. Pretty easy to dial in with RAW controls and the waveform tool.
Thank you can finally settle my mind with the lumix s5iix and not dreaming of buying into the hype the only thing that bothers me is the 10bit vs 12bit footage the reason I can't leave the s5iix is 14 stops DR and the BM has 13 I can't manage the 1stop down
To be honest, I think you would never notice a difference, if anything with B-raw black magic offers the same in terms of DR. Both excellent cameras, Panasonic got a lot of cool features however that the Blackmagic does not.
The Panasonic gives you extra work on post but I bet you could match it to the BM6k. Honestly, I would love to watch that. Recently switched to Lumix from BM, the Pyxis didn't do it for me. I'll be happy to jump back to Black Magic when they make an A cam with newer tech, good batteries, better body etc. P.S. Also grabbed an S9 and I´m really liking Panasonic
You can’t be serious. Better features like false color, 2 CFexpress card slots, the best menu system of any camera to date and in a box/cube style with stunning images and great color science.
@@Sethmotley You could just get the False Color V-Log LUT. The BM menu is good, but there's nothing amazing about it. It's simple, it's easy, and that's about it. If I'm really honest with you, it's mostly thanks to it being so light in features. Cramp it up with stuff like you get on Panasonic or Sony cams, and it will lose most of its benefits. Yeah, two CF cards are great, and so is having IBIS. I have nothing against Black Magic; I love mine, and the image is indeed better, but unless all you do is traditional set productions, I would gladly pick the S5II lineup for 70%-80% of the bulk work.
@@lfcruzsierra I have both camera BMD and LUMIX and I think is quite silly to compare them to be frank. A Camera is just like a tool. You don’t use a hammer if you want to screw something in and you don’t use a screwdriver if you want a hammer something, the Pyxis is not a swiss army knife camera they are meant for cinematographers to make movies,documentary and so on. Whatever your project calls for that’s the camera you use.
@@Sethmotley absolutely. someone needs to evaluate what their needs are. For the majority of people (especially starting out), I would recommend an S5II or IIx over a blackmagic cam. The Panasonic can be used for "content creation" which sometimes means "hybrid shooting" for some people. But it can also be built up to be a proper "cinema camera" (i.e. shutter angle, waveform, XLR add-on, external battery, even BRAW). Will it do it as well as the Pyxis? Debatable, but most would probably say no. However, the Pyxis can't go the other way and be turned into a hybrid camera. It's impossible. No built-in evf, fixed screen, and while it can take stills, nobody would use it for that dedicated purpose. Most people would need to "graduate" into a proper cinema camera like the Pyxis. In other words, they're getting those kinds of jobs or they have the free time to dedicate to filmmaking. Other people without that luxury could use the S5II for a variety of purposes. Photo, video, social, even a vacation/family camera. Luckily, since both are L-mount, they can be used alongside each other.
@@Sethmotley I haven't disputed that, I'm just praising the versatility of the Lumix as an user an owner of both...having a camera that can work well on a movie, documentarie and also works for run and gun style, photography, media content...make me want to pick the Black Magic less and less but still the image is king. That's still my point, regardless of what i think of the Pyxis. I just expected more.
The PYXIS is tiny in person js'ing. I'm personally looking forward to it for my Automated Jib/Slider as the weight and battery will finally work vs my rigged out Pocket 6K FF which top loads the weight on my Jib and Slider.
Awesome upload! Now if you or someone else could do similarly -- with a GH7/GH6 body, and upload a video on it for the sheer fun of it, that'd be grand. 😉👍🏽 Subscribed.
I've been using my Lumix S5IIX for everything. I've decided to ditch the BMD Video assist for a Hollyland Mars M1 Enhanced. The biggest reason being that the HDMI latency when recording RAW is bad, so much so that it's difficult to follow your subject when your monitor is off by about a second. Then if you want to wirelessly transmit that image to the Director or Focus puller, you need a separate transmitter that will add additional latency making focus pulling essentially pointless. The Mars M1 has a built in transmitter and when you disable RAW recording on the camera, HDMI latency is mitigated. Yes RAW is the best codec for projects, but the ProRes footage from the Lumix S5IIX is very rich, has loads of detail and on a proper computer can be graded well. So honestly, what is this coming down to? If you want BRAW, get a BMD camera.
It's not just about numbers... Blackmagic color science give a look that is NOT that of BRAW obtained from Panasonic. I know because I have to match Panasonic and BM quite often. BM is less clean and more cinematic (and I love it). About continuous AF... with DJI you can nowadays achieve it. With the advantage of being able to use it on whatever lens you want, vintage, anamorphic etc. Instead than being forced to use just the usual photo AF lenses. This camera mod is extremely welcome, but it doesn't mean you can use a Panasonic thinking to have a BM in your hands, because it isn't like that.
I enjoyed your vid, I like your content personality. It seems a little biased which is cool, but you gave the Lumix features you had to add to the camera. Some of those you can also add to the Pyxis right? You can add the BMD Video Assist to he Pysxis and also a BP-U to V-mount apdater. Great content nonetheless. Keep up the awesome content. I will sub.
@@thesavagefilmmaker all good brother I got that from the vid. That rear attachment does give you some added advantages. I pre-ordered the Pyxis myself and I bought the BM Micro Sdio 4k G2 to audition as B or C cam. The BMPCC body style kept me from getting into BMD previous. Continue being savage my brother.
@@benjamin.kelleyFunny you should praise the blackout vibe, as I was just elated over the rig *not* being aesthetically damaged with some ugly "condor blue" colored parts, knobs or cabling. 😂
@@thesavagefilmmaker yeah, sorry, it came later 👍 you said also, that you prefer braw out of a bm camera, but do you fancy pro res raw also over lumix Braw? I definitiv don’t, because of the compatibility issues with resolve.
Probably because it hasn’t come out yet 🤷🏾♂️. That’s my guess. The fact that no one technically owns one but we’re here talking about it is the literal antithesis of your statement.
This should be your pitch and BMD should hire you! Didn't watch the second half of the video. Did you compare prices, you do say the rig is cheaper, by approx. how much? It would add context to value of the S5IIx rig setup.
@@thesavagefilmmaker Hey fellow Kiwi, my main problem with this vid is at 7:30 "unlike another company making something similar". The rest seems alright, if you'd address or fix it with some humility that'd be sweet, or just delete this comment as well
the Pyxis is just a, box form-factor, bmp4k with a larger sensor(FF), that it can barley handle. the S5iix is a way better value. building it out is fine, or can be used straight out the box. 3,200 for the Pyxsis, as a starting point is not a good deal. You can't use the bmp 4k or 6k cameras to crop in (windowing) without getting more noticeable noise. You have to record at the full range of any of their camera's sensor and resize the image later in a video editor. Don't down scale (windowing) in camera, unless noisy image is ok.
As a professional sound mixer with over 8 years of industry experience in the biggest market in America, a camera without a standardized time code input cannot be used on professional narrative sets or anything that isn’t mos. I don’t understand why people keep taking mirrorless cams and trying to make them “cinema”. A used ursa or red Komodo isn’t that much more expensive. And if you’re just a hobbyist, then why are you so hellbent on making your camera look “cinema” just enjoy it.
As a professional filmmaker for near 20 years I have to disagree. On big productions absolutely there are some things that are always expected. But the world of indie projects and smaller productions is full of these types of cameras as b, c and even A cams and that is only going to increase in the future as budgets get smaller and the industry is required to do more with less. I live in a world where I may see an Arri on set or an Fx3 and to be fair if these cams get you in striking distance of ‘pro’ cinema cameras with a ‘cinema’ look, of course everyone will want that. If you think these cams are for hobbyists only you’re seriously misjudging the evolving landscape of film. Old guard mentality.
@@thesavagefilmmaker you haven’t been the sound mixer who gets called by the editor asking why there’s no timecode when they shot on an fx3 that requires a usb dongle for timecode and the acs had no room to rig that usb dongle and now the editor has to sync manually for 30 days worth of footage. A Panasonic with HDMI timecode is even worse. You really expect an editor to clap sync a 30 day show? My point isn’t that these cameras are hobbyist cams. More so than just using the right camera for the job instead of rigging something out for something it wasn’t meant to do. If you needed to put all these things on your mirrorless to service your production, just use something that’s purpose made so you don’t make people like me have a harder time. It just passes along the stress to different people instead of using the correct tool. I’m an IA card carrying PSM in LA. I’m not just a filmmaker. I see this shit on a daily basis. I’m not saying this to bash you, but more to encourage others to use the tools that can best serve EVERYONE and not just the picture. I have no doubt your mirrorless produces professional picture. Shit I’m a believer in lighting over anything. But understand it’s not just about the picture. Remember my department keeps you in sync and we give u the fancy smart slate the least we’d expect is seamless timecode inputs.
BRAW from the S5iix and BRAW from the BMCC6k or the Pyxis are identical as they use very similar sensors and the implementation of BRAW on the S5iix is excellent.
@@Wildridefilms I've used both cameras, and the Blackmagic delivers a more "filmic" image than the S5iix... The sensor isn't the only factor; if it were, many cameras would look identical... Image processing is also a significant part of the equation.
Timecode? Slate metadata? Possible to rec with a Nucleus? Also does this cine cube cage has any in-built 15mm rod clamps? I'd hate to add an additional 15mm base to make the whole setup taller
If you used 15mm rails on the bottom, it would be no taller than any other cine-rig that has bottom rails. However you could easily rig rails to the top plate as well if you didn't want to make it taller. Timecode over HDMI only.
Thank you so much for the video, this is what I was looking for. How would you stabilize footage when shooting with the s5iix. Steadicam or gimbal or something else?
Personally I would just use the S5iix's in body stabilisation, it's very effective, the best I've tried. If your lens also has stabilisation it's even better. I don't need anything extra, but If I wanted smooth tracking shots then a Gimbal like the DJI Rs3 would be your best bet.
@@thesavagefilmmaker Have you ever used cinesaddle (there are analogs for 150$) or its analogs? I think maybe using ibis and cinesaddle will result in a super smooth picture?
My friend you have actually skipped completelly the issue that for me made the S5IIX sadly simply not an option: the risk of moiré in the footage due to the lack of optical low pass filter. I really wanted to buy this camera but couldn't stand the idea that suddenly some footage could be ruined by this. And I saw some scary tests. Could you be so kind as to share your experience regarding this? Have you had problems? I Thank you!
You’re right that is a very valid concern. I have not noticed this as an issue and filmed on the 6k pro’s which also has no OLPF, I have very rarely noticed the moire issues in filming, but I have not filmed enough with the S5 to give a good assessment yet.
SDI is better. They’re faster and they lock in place. Neither Reds, nor Arris have hdmi ports. It’s redundant. It’s like having usb-c and asking where the slower old usb ports are. You can convert if you need to.
The rigid and the cindback are just a glorified D tap splitter. Looks cool, feels well built , but it does not do anything for 20x of the price of a D tap splitter.
Hard disagree on that one, when you change the shape you change the balance, and that lets you attach things like you would an actual larger cinema camera. This is a much more elegant way to attach a v-mount plus accessories than the regular cheese plate, v-mount plate, and rails, that regular dslr rigs always require.
@@thesavagefilmmaker sure , but a much more pricey way as well. Buying a V mount plate , a rod mount and 2 cheese plates that attach on thr rods or on the side of the cage will come out much cheaper for a beginner. If someone is not a beginner than they can just buy a komodo and dont have to “replicate “ the box shape. ( deepends ofc on what you want from your camera because some mirorrless have different much needed features than the komodo , this is just an example) Box is easier to rig , no arguing over that, but the price on a 3D printed accessory that does not do anything more than a regular D tap splitter , it does not have a voltage meter either like the good quality splitters is crazy.
If it were CNC machined, with a voltage meter built in and with a QR thst allows you to attach and deattach from the cage in seconds.. well that would be something.
Did you take shots at Caleb for not having it in stock? 😂 This Is wild because Caleb actually started this cine back as a small business owner, and then major companies were more money decided to copy him and what he was doing because they seen how well it was doing. So it’s cool to buy this, but to take shots at a small business owner, who actually paved away for these major companies is hilarious. Definitely will be buying one, but without taking shots at somebody who clearly came up with the idea !
I think there is a narrative that Caleb came up with this concept. I think the reality is Caleb popularised this concept to RUclipsrs, but was not the first to create these. So I'm not losing any sleep over making note that the products are never in stock :D
I’m sorry you don’t have a sense of humour, I suppose you’ll have to wait 5 seconds for them to be over. Rather than write an annoying childish comment. 🤣👍
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I professionally use both a 6Kpro and a s5iix. What I will say is blackmagic will always natively a more cinematic, soft, feel. HOWEVER: If you put a 1/8 Pro-mist in front of the s5iix and use Phantom Luts, the image is VERY close. I use a K&F concepts filter in a Tilta Mirage mattebox. The added layers of glass lend itself well to soften the image more like the 6Kpro. After discovering this on a shoot where I was using both cameras with Rokinons and good lighting, I have found myself sticking with the S5 more and more.
For anyone who is a hobbyist or anything other than a filmmaker who is on set, S5iix will keep up with what you want, and can be stripped back to a lightweight fantastic stills camera.
I love my s5ii. It fits everything I need. Helps too that it takes photos superbly as that’s still part of my wheel house. You’re gonna be fine regardless of choice here. If you’re looking for a camera nowadays you really can’t go wrong.
As an S5iix and BMCC 6k owner i could say that both are Amazing but they have different strengths and weaknesses, S5iix in a few words is: Great autofocus, lightweight beast and very good low light capabilities. And BMCC 6k is: Best Cinematic Look, 6k 3:2 Braw up to 48fps and 6k 2.40:1 Braw up to 60fps.
Can’t beat Blackmagic for image.
6k 3:2 is up to 36fps. 6k 17:9 is up to 48fps.
@@thesavagefilmmaker ARRI does 😅
@@JS_Legerwith an hefty price tag.
@@JS_Leger obviously he was talking in the same price bracket, Sony Venice and Arri color are obviously best but Blackmagic does amazing for the price
Love the concept. I have an S1+BMCC6k. While I enjoy having options, particularly when working with different clients, I really enjoy the boundaries put in place by the 6k. I shoot like THIS and work around THOSE limitations, and the results come out great. Sure, I can't use it for certain applications (e.g. vlogging or unsupported run and gun), but using it as intended offers incredible results. Absolutely love this build and will be looking forward to seeing more footage.
Same here, my S1 is great but the Cinema 6k is my best camera for video.
Can’t beat the Blackmagic when you are willing to film with it like a cinema camera.
As you mentioned the reason why I haven't rigged out my S5IIX is because of the loss of Open Gate. Rigging out the S5 mark I makes more sense.
This video inspired me to buy a Lumix camera. Thanks
Pretty great cameras, now what I expected TBH.
Dude this rigid pro is a game changer! It is definitely on my short list of items to pick up
Got one for my a7siii and S5iix love the cine style.
Its great to see creative rigging videos like this, nice work.
For me personally the Pyxis is ideal but I have specific use case scenarios. I will never need IBIS but I might not go BM if I did. There are advantages with its internal raw sone of which you highlighted.
I'm also very lazy & love their menu system 😋
Can’t beat the menu system
It really comes down to what type of productions you're doing. Blackmagic is great for indie films and some film style branded content shoots. the Lumix S5IIX is great for run and gun doc style shoots. Both are great tools.
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Brilliant! I was getting towards the end and was curious about braw image differences between cameras and you even addressed that! 👍
Thanks man, good to see you! ❤️
The color differences are probably mostly from WB differences between the two brands. I have found 5600k can have a 1000k color difference between cameras. Same with tint. Pretty easy to dial in with RAW controls and the waveform tool.
Nice to hear another Kiwi voice on the webs!
Thank you can finally settle my mind with the lumix s5iix and not dreaming of buying into the hype the only thing that bothers me is the 10bit vs 12bit footage the reason I can't leave the s5iix is 14 stops DR and the BM has 13 I can't manage the 1stop down
To be honest, I think you would never notice a difference, if anything with B-raw black magic offers the same in terms of DR. Both excellent cameras, Panasonic got a lot of cool features however that the Blackmagic does not.
The Panasonic gives you extra work on post but I bet you could match it to the BM6k. Honestly, I would love to watch that. Recently switched to Lumix from BM, the Pyxis didn't do it for me. I'll be happy to jump back to Black Magic when they make an A cam with newer tech, good batteries, better body etc.
P.S. Also grabbed an S9 and I´m really liking Panasonic
You can’t be serious. Better features like false color, 2 CFexpress card slots, the best menu system of any camera to date and in a box/cube style with stunning images and great color science.
@@Sethmotley You could just get the False Color V-Log LUT. The BM menu is good, but there's nothing amazing about it. It's simple, it's easy, and that's about it. If I'm really honest with you, it's mostly thanks to it being so light in features. Cramp it up with stuff like you get on Panasonic or Sony cams, and it will lose most of its benefits.
Yeah, two CF cards are great, and so is having IBIS.
I have nothing against Black Magic; I love mine, and the image is indeed better, but unless all you do is traditional set productions, I would gladly pick the S5II lineup for 70%-80% of the bulk work.
@@lfcruzsierra I have both camera BMD and LUMIX and I think is quite silly to compare them to be frank. A Camera is just like a tool. You don’t use a hammer if you want to screw something in and you don’t use a screwdriver if you want a hammer something, the Pyxis is not a swiss army knife camera they are meant for cinematographers to make movies,documentary and so on. Whatever your project calls for that’s the camera you use.
@@Sethmotley absolutely. someone needs to evaluate what their needs are. For the majority of people (especially starting out), I would recommend an S5II or IIx over a blackmagic cam. The Panasonic can be used for "content creation" which sometimes means "hybrid shooting" for some people. But it can also be built up to be a proper "cinema camera" (i.e. shutter angle, waveform, XLR add-on, external battery, even BRAW).
Will it do it as well as the Pyxis? Debatable, but most would probably say no. However, the Pyxis can't go the other way and be turned into a hybrid camera. It's impossible. No built-in evf, fixed screen, and while it can take stills, nobody would use it for that dedicated purpose.
Most people would need to "graduate" into a proper cinema camera like the Pyxis. In other words, they're getting those kinds of jobs or they have the free time to dedicate to filmmaking.
Other people without that luxury could use the S5II for a variety of purposes. Photo, video, social, even a vacation/family camera.
Luckily, since both are L-mount, they can be used alongside each other.
@@Sethmotley I haven't disputed that, I'm just praising the versatility of the Lumix as an user an owner of both...having a camera that can work well on a movie, documentarie and also works for run and gun style, photography, media content...make me want to pick the Black Magic less and less but still the image is king. That's still my point, regardless of what i think of the Pyxis. I just expected more.
I subscribed simply for your impeccable pop culture references, awesome video!
Appreciate that, because thats what I waste all my time on creating those cutaways.
The PYXIS is tiny in person js'ing. I'm personally looking forward to it for my Automated Jib/Slider as the weight and battery will finally work vs my rigged out Pocket 6K FF which top loads the weight on my Jib and Slider.
Wow! Great job! Thank you so much! It’s very well done! Keep it up!
Thank you! Will do!
Awesome upload! Now if you or someone else could do similarly -- with a GH7/GH6 body, and upload a video on it for the sheer fun of it, that'd be grand. 😉👍🏽 Subscribed.
Currently in development. Stay tuned! :)
@@RigidPRO Ni-i-i-ice! I hope you see the result! Just what I need. [Hides some cash for future investment]. I'll follow you. 💰
I've been using my Lumix S5IIX for everything. I've decided to ditch the BMD Video assist for a Hollyland Mars M1 Enhanced. The biggest reason being that the HDMI latency when recording RAW is bad, so much so that it's difficult to follow your subject when your monitor is off by about a second. Then if you want to wirelessly transmit that image to the Director or Focus puller, you need a separate transmitter that will add additional latency making focus pulling essentially pointless. The Mars M1 has a built in transmitter and when you disable RAW recording on the camera, HDMI latency is mitigated. Yes RAW is the best codec for projects, but the ProRes footage from the Lumix S5IIX is very rich, has loads of detail and on a proper computer can be graded well. So honestly, what is this coming down to? If you want BRAW, get a BMD camera.
I did the same but with the gfx 100s recording to the 7” video assist and I love what it does
Are you have a video sample?
Would love to try this with a GFX!
It's not just about numbers... Blackmagic color science give a look that is NOT that of BRAW obtained from Panasonic. I know because I have to match Panasonic and BM quite often. BM is less clean and more cinematic (and I love it).
About continuous AF... with DJI you can nowadays achieve it. With the advantage of being able to use it on whatever lens you want, vintage, anamorphic etc. Instead than being forced to use just the usual photo AF lenses.
This camera mod is extremely welcome, but it doesn't mean you can use a Panasonic thinking to have a BM in your hands, because it isn't like that.
Yes, I did say exactly that in the video. 😂😂
I enjoyed your vid, I like your content personality. It seems a little biased which is cool, but you gave the Lumix features you had to add to the camera. Some of those you can also add to the Pyxis right? You can add the BMD Video Assist to he Pysxis and also a BP-U to V-mount apdater. Great content nonetheless. Keep up the awesome content. I will sub.
Thanks, I own more Blackmagic cameras than any other cameras, but it's true I'm not a fan of the Pyxis.
@@thesavagefilmmaker all good brother I got that from the vid. That rear attachment does give you some added advantages. I pre-ordered the Pyxis myself and I bought the BM Micro Sdio 4k G2 to audition as B or C cam. The BMPCC body style kept me from getting into BMD previous. Continue being savage my brother.
BUT! Your Pyxies looks a DIY Frankenstein camera - the real pyxies doesn't 😂🙈
Give me a bit of Frankenstein and auto focus.
It really doesn't look that bad - especially because it's all blacked out.
@@benjamin.kelleyLooks super Bad imho 🙈 the SSD on top alone is a no go
Give him a break, hes trying to pimp gear and make money. that's all they are good for these days!
@@benjamin.kelleyFunny you should praise the blackout vibe, as I was just elated over the rig *not* being aesthetically damaged with some ugly "condor blue" colored parts, knobs or cabling. 😂
Sure you can do BRAW on the S5 II (X). Just get an BM monitor recorder instead 👍
Yeah... that's what I said in the video.
@@thesavagefilmmaker yeah, sorry, it came later 👍 you said also, that you prefer braw out of a bm camera, but do you fancy pro res raw also over lumix Braw? I definitiv don’t, because of the compatibility issues with resolve.
excellent video. very balanced. subscribed
Awesome, thank you!
As a S1 and Cinema 6k owner, the S1 is great but the Cinema 6k is superior for image quality.
Agree, I did mention that 🤣
Btw you can add lidar focus to Black magic camera
Yes, I've used it with my Blackmagic 6K full frame camera.
BMCC is perfect
Wolverine was here 🐺
He was!
I didn't know Wolverine is a film maker?
A very talented filmmaker at that 🤣🤣
Its funny how quickly Pyxis came and went, from hype to oblivion in no time.😊
Haha.
Probably because it hasn’t come out yet 🤷🏾♂️. That’s my guess. The fact that no one technically owns one but we’re here talking about it is the literal antithesis of your statement.
I mean like he said at the end of the video, nothing sub 5k beats the blackmagic image, for me image comes at the very top of my priorities.
11:25 $3500+ now most of those items you can get used or within good condition so the pricing can be a little bit less just got shop around
How does rigging a camera turn it into a cinema camera?
Secondly show me any DoP who utilizes auto focus.
Okay tough guy 😂👍
This should be your pitch and BMD should hire you!
Didn't watch the second half of the video. Did you compare prices, you do say the rig is cheaper, by approx. how much? It would add context to value of the S5IIx rig setup.
Yes I compare prices, watch the 2nd half of the video!
Definitely watch the second half of the video.
I did. Good stuff!
Come on man I thought you had the camera 😭 Who’s got it?? I want to see a review
It’s not out yet
Bmcc 6k나 블랙매직 디자인의 바디가 아니면 온전한 braw파일이 아닙니기에 다빈치 리졸브에서 iso변경이 안됩니다
또한 bmcc바디들의 특유의 색감의느낌과 약간은 다릅니다
외곡하지 마세요 어면히 두바디는 다른바디 입니다
I did mention those things in this video.
wail till these guys figure out about RED and Arri. I can just hear the reviewers saying "it doesn't even have a screen at all"
Sorry mate we're talking about very different applications and purposes here. I shoot Red all the time and Arri cameras are for a team to operate.
So basically this is just a copy of Caleb's Cineback?
Or Caleb's cineback is a copy of this?
@@thesavagefilmmaker this is the copy. Stop insisting
@@thesavagefilmmaker Hey fellow Kiwi, my main problem with this vid is at 7:30 "unlike another company making something
similar". The rest seems alright, if you'd address or fix it with some humility that'd be sweet, or just delete this comment as well
the Pyxis is just a, box form-factor, bmp4k with a larger sensor(FF), that it can barley handle.
the S5iix is a way better value. building it out is fine, or can be used straight out the box.
3,200 for the Pyxsis, as a starting point is not a good deal.
You can't use the bmp 4k or 6k cameras to crop in (windowing) without getting more noticeable noise. You have to record at the full range of any of their camera's sensor and resize the image later in a video editor. Don't down scale (windowing) in camera, unless noisy image is ok.
As a professional sound mixer with over 8 years of industry experience in the biggest market in America, a camera without a standardized time code input cannot be used on professional narrative sets or anything that isn’t mos. I don’t understand why people keep taking mirrorless cams and trying to make them “cinema”. A used ursa or red Komodo isn’t that much more expensive. And if you’re just a hobbyist, then why are you so hellbent on making your camera look “cinema” just enjoy it.
As a professional filmmaker for near 20 years I have to disagree. On big productions absolutely there are some things that are always expected. But the world of indie projects and smaller productions is full of these types of cameras as b, c and even A cams and that is only going to increase in the future as budgets get smaller and the industry is required to do more with less. I live in a world where I may see an Arri on set or an Fx3 and to be fair if these cams get you in striking distance of ‘pro’ cinema cameras with a ‘cinema’ look, of course everyone will want that. If you think these cams are for hobbyists only you’re seriously misjudging the evolving landscape of film. Old guard mentality.
@@thesavagefilmmaker you haven’t been the sound mixer who gets called by the editor asking why there’s no timecode when they shot on an fx3 that requires a usb dongle for timecode and the acs had no room to rig that usb dongle and now the editor has to sync manually for 30 days worth of footage. A Panasonic with HDMI timecode is even worse. You really expect an editor to clap sync a 30 day show? My point isn’t that these cameras are hobbyist cams. More so than just using the right camera for the job instead of rigging something out for something it wasn’t meant to do. If you needed to put all these things on your mirrorless to service your production, just use something that’s purpose made so you don’t make people like me have a harder time. It just passes along the stress to different people instead of using the correct tool. I’m an IA card carrying PSM in LA. I’m not just a filmmaker. I see this shit on a daily basis. I’m not saying this to bash you, but more to encourage others to use the tools that can best serve EVERYONE and not just the picture. I have no doubt your mirrorless produces professional picture. Shit I’m a believer in lighting over anything. But understand it’s not just about the picture. Remember my department keeps you in sync and we give u the fancy smart slate the least we’d expect is seamless timecode inputs.
Imagine if the S1H mkii has black magic internally 😮😮😮
Can we dare to dream?
having better specs doesn't always mean better...I prefer having a camera that produce a beautiful image than having the perfect Swiss Army knife..
BRAW from the S5iix and BRAW from the BMCC6k or the Pyxis are identical as they use very similar sensors and the implementation of BRAW on the S5iix is excellent.
@@Wildridefilms I've used both cameras, and the Blackmagic delivers a more "filmic" image than the S5iix... The sensor isn't the only factor; if it were, many cameras would look identical... Image processing is also a significant part of the equation.
Can we see this setup on an DJI Gimbal
I don't have a DJI gimbal.
What "other" company makes similar rigs?
Cineback
Timecode? Slate metadata? Possible to rec with a Nucleus? Also does this cine cube cage has any in-built 15mm rod clamps? I'd hate to add an additional 15mm base to make the whole setup taller
If you used 15mm rails on the bottom, it would be no taller than any other cine-rig that has bottom rails. However you could easily rig rails to the top plate as well if you didn't want to make it taller. Timecode over HDMI only.
Thank you so much for the video, this is what I was looking for.
How would you stabilize footage when shooting with the s5iix. Steadicam or gimbal or something else?
Personally I would just use the S5iix's in body stabilisation, it's very effective, the best I've tried. If your lens also has stabilisation it's even better. I don't need anything extra, but If I wanted smooth tracking shots then a Gimbal like the DJI Rs3 would be your best bet.
@@thesavagefilmmaker Have you ever used cinesaddle (there are analogs for 150$) or its analogs? I think maybe using ibis and cinesaddle will result in a super smooth picture?
My friend you have actually skipped completelly the issue that for me made the S5IIX sadly simply not an option: the risk of moiré in the footage due to the lack of optical low pass filter. I really wanted to buy this camera but couldn't stand the idea that suddenly some footage could be ruined by this. And I saw some scary tests. Could you be so kind as to share your experience regarding this? Have you had problems? I Thank you!
You’re right that is a very valid concern. I have not noticed this as an issue and filmed on the 6k pro’s which also has no OLPF, I have very rarely noticed the moire issues in filming, but I have not filmed enough with the S5 to give a good assessment yet.
I’m having serious problems trying to connect my Blackmagic monitor to my S5iix, it won’t allow me to access BRAW.
Enable raw output data to hdmi
Enable raw data to hdmi and change your system frequency to 59.93 it won’t work on 24p frequency.
@@thesavagefilmmaker I did this but on my Black magic monitor it says codec not available? I don’t even know what that means
Z Cam F6
No Ibis, No auto focus, No B-raw. Otherwise good.
@@thesavagefilmmaker external braw, and most cinema cameras don't want ibis or auto focus.
I thought SDI was the reason to get Cinema Cameras? I thought SDI was better than HDMI?
SDI is better, but having HDMI and SDI is best.
SDI is better. They’re faster and they lock in place. Neither Reds, nor Arris have hdmi ports. It’s redundant. It’s like having usb-c and asking where the slower old usb ports are. You can convert if you need to.
The rigid and the cindback are just a glorified D tap splitter. Looks cool, feels well built , but it does not do anything for 20x of the price of a D tap splitter.
Hard disagree on that one, when you change the shape you change the balance, and that lets you attach things like you would an actual larger cinema camera. This is a much more elegant way to attach a v-mount plus accessories than the regular cheese plate, v-mount plate, and rails, that regular dslr rigs always require.
@@thesavagefilmmaker sure , but a much more pricey way as well. Buying a V mount plate , a rod mount and 2 cheese plates that attach on thr rods or on the side of the cage will come out much cheaper for a beginner. If someone is not a beginner than they can just buy a komodo and dont have to “replicate “ the box shape. ( deepends ofc on what you want from your camera because some mirorrless have different much needed features than the komodo , this is just an example)
Box is easier to rig , no arguing over that, but the price on a 3D printed accessory that does not do anything more than a regular D tap splitter , it does not have a voltage meter either like the good quality splitters is crazy.
If it were CNC machined, with a voltage meter built in and with a QR thst allows you to attach and deattach from the cage in seconds.. well that would be something.
Your pyxis with china rig just fotocamera
Not sure I follow you pal.
Just buy a Z Cam E2-F6 and you don’t need to do any of this
Does a z-cam have auto focus and IBIS? Nope.
You don't need autofocus
Did you take shots at Caleb for not having it in stock? 😂
This Is wild because Caleb actually started this cine back as a small business owner, and then major companies were more money decided to copy him and what he was doing because they seen how well it was doing.
So it’s cool to buy this, but to take shots at a small business owner, who actually paved away for these major companies is hilarious.
Definitely will be buying one, but without taking shots at somebody who clearly came up with the idea !
I think there is a narrative that Caleb came up with this concept. I think the reality is Caleb popularised this concept to RUclipsrs, but was not the first to create these. So I'm not losing any sleep over making note that the products are never in stock :D
I'll never join you! I'll never join the dark side!
Even if its better....
Search your feelings. 😂
@@thesavagefilmmaker lol well color me subscribed. Glad you had a chuckle.
I hate that side screen...why??? its like, "its for professionl" yeah, but its like an evil idea haha...give me a decent screen dude!
don't have the camera, don't say
Don’t have a constructive comment, don’t say 🤣🤣
Is this camera even out yet? lol
s5iiX has been out for ages bro. 😂😂😂
Panasonic Lumix GH7 is Better
I don't like Micro 4/3rds
Annoying childish movie excerpts
I’m sorry you don’t have a sense of humour, I suppose you’ll have to wait 5 seconds for them to be over. Rather than write an annoying childish comment. 🤣👍
@@thesavagefilmmaker I'm just saying... 4 excerpts within 1 minute. It is annoying.