Ricoh GRIIIx VS GRIII - Which one to choose?!
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- The Ricoh GRIIIx is the newest camera in the GR lineup. Although it is almost identical to the Ricoh GRIII, there are some differences. Is it just a matter of choosing between the 28mm equivalent lens versus the 40mm equivalent lens? Or are there other things to take into consideration? In this video we are going to dive into the Ricoh GRIIIx vs GRIII dilemma: Which one to choose?
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:25 GRIIIx and GRIII overview
1:19 28mm vs 40mm?
2:32 Comparing photo's
3:22 New features!
4:19 Other considerations
4:54 Prices
5:09 Conclusions
6:04 Outro
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An excellent, informative and well produced comparison review in just 6min 44 secs.
Excellent video, really well made, thank you for your time and effort! Cheers.
Summary: Good cameras, if you want 40mm get the IIIx if you want 28mm get III.
Exactly. Could have done it in 10 seconds 😂😎
Got my gr3x urban edition few weeks ago, really fun to use! Appreciate the vid!
Niels, thx for posting the video as I’ve been going back and forth between the GR3 and GR3x and I really like the wider shots of the 28mm compared to,the 40mm on the GR3x so would it be safe to say that if wanted a closer shot of a subject that I should just get closer? Or, am I overlooking some dynamic of focal length in which my simple solution isn’t as simple as it sounds? Thx
I actually really like that Ricoh didn't make a big difference between the two models. For one, the GR is pretty close to perfect (I mean sure there's a few things I wish it had if I could get everything I wanted), so just giving it a different lens makes sense. But even better, I'm sick of the artificial changes that companies make in their lineup for marketing purposes that make it so neither camera is what you really want and each has pieces you want. Here Ricoh took a great camera, gave it a new lens because fans asked for it, but didn't take away anything for no reason. 👍
I agree, they really did a nice job! Especially the fact that it is a completely new lens, not sacrificing any quality there… Thanks for your comment mate 🙏
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Your videos are joy to watch, fun and informative, subscribed after you've done 50 push-ups (not really, subscribed after 1min of watching) I'm on 5th video already 😮 thank you
Thanks very helpful with the side-by-side shots and commentary!🙏 I may want both…
Great comparison and advice. Going with the GR3x. Going to be traveling with family so I'm looking for it to handle portraits better. Thank you!!
For traveling in my opinion is 28mm more practical. Tight places and narrow streets get tricky with 40mm. If the city is big with large streets 40mm would be easier to handle, since everything will feel far away. If you sit in a bus you will use 28mm. If I am making a vlogging vedio i would use 40mm but this is not the point of this camera
Thanks for straight forward review in short and very helpful.
Thanks!
Get both. Problem solved.
I already had a GR II - which is still fine. So I got the GR IIIx.
Superb comparison 👍 Keep up the good work!
Thanks 😃
The big realization I came to while watching was that if I want a wider shot on the GRIIIx, I can do a handheld pano (==bigger resolution photos), whereas if I want a tighter shot from a GRIII, I need to crop (==smaller resolution photos). I do believe you've resolved my doubts.
Pano is a great option in still photography, but not when you're capturing people or boats or anything that moves.
I am a big fan of higher focal length lenses on my full frame, but for the purpose of the gr, I would prefer the wide angle in this pocketable point and shoot cam.
Thanks for ur Video, I love ur Pics with motifs from Netherlands
Thanks - This is the best comparison video between the two cameras I have seen so far. It would be very helpful if you did another video comparing snap focus, because from the charts I’ve seen, the depth of field of the new camera is much shallower than the original, so I’m presuming snap focus will not be as effective?
Because of the different focal length, the depth of field is shallower… Snap focusing is just as effective but you will get a narrower field of focus. You could use your aperture to get the field of view you like. It just acts different, also because at 40mm you might pick subjects just a little bit further away 👌 Thanks for your comment!
Thanks for another brilliant video
How would the photos come out if you would crop it from the gr3 vs gr3x ?
Nice video. Thank you for posting
Great video my dude! Keep crushing it 😜👊
Hey, great video here. I've already got the GR3 and alike to other people commenting here I just really dig it! This new GR3X is definitely tantalising, especially with the new telephoto lens adaptor. Anywho, I was just curious if you had adapted your own in-camera filter settings with the photos you showed in this video or if they were raw photos and changed in post editing? If it's in camera settings, hope you don't mind me asking, what are your filter/camera settings you used? I really like the colours and tones. I use positive film, but I'm not overly sold on how I've currently set mine up.
Hi Thomas! Thanks for reacting on the video! During the comparison all the photo’s are unedited JPEGs shot in the positive film simulation. If you’d like, I can send you some shots so you can compare them to yours. Send me an email on info@nielskemp.com if you’d like that. I didn’t to any tweaking to the filter or the processing of the images. The GRIIIx is great as well, can’t wait to get my hand on the telephoto adapter!
@@NielsdeKemp Thanks, I really apprecaite that. I've emailed you.
I tried this camera and does anyone find the focusing a bit difficult in low light conditions? Amazing IQ btw I was very surprised when the pictures came out.
Bedankt voor deze video!
Great video!
I've been eyeballing the Ricoh GRIIIx. I really don't need one because I have a Fujifilm X100V, but the size of the Ricoh makes it so tempting. There are times where I leave my camera behind because I don't want to carry it. The fact that the Ricoh can just fit in my pocket is a game-changer. I might just have GAS though 😂
I have both the X100V and the GR III, and I love both!
I had both, and sold Fuji, since GR is way better in all terms. The best point is - it's always with you, forces you for more photos, more creativity!
@@EdBareff same here ⚡️
@EdBareff which GR do you have?
Interesting video for me, thank you, but not yet convincing enough. Why ? I want to change my GRII that I take on ultralight hiking. it is already versatile: portraits, plants, architectural details, landscapes with foreground, landscapes assembled in Lightroom for beautiful panoramas, etc. So... a GRIII or a GRIIIx? not yet decided because the assembly of the panoramas seems to me very possible with the GRIIIx. Keep the GRII as a 2nd box? Too much dust on the sensor. an advice ?
thanks a lot! by your video I finally chose to buy GR3X instead of GR3. GR3X seems to make it easier to focus on things I see. Plus, I am not into a bit of distortion when using 28mm cameras' viewpoint.
That’s great to hear! 🙏
40mm is considered by many to be around the ideal street shooting focal length giving a balance between 50mm and 28mm, so just wide enough, but gives you more ability to fill the frame in some situations too. Pentax used to do 43mm lens that was very well regarded. Personally I prefer 35mm with a larger aperture, so I have an RX1Rii. Far more expensive, but it does have a full frame sensor and a superior Zeiss Sonnar lens
you could basically buy the ricoh and a sony a7iv for the price of that rx1
The x model, as I weigh things, negates the value of "snap focus," which is one of the very best features the GR line offers. The in-focus zone is significantly smaller with the 40 compared to the 28 even at, say, f/8. If you need the 40mm perspective you can crop in. If your main focus is portraits, there are better cameras; you really need at least 75mm (equiv.) for good portraits if you want to flatten the perspective. (I have both the GR II and III, among others.). My choice is the standard GR III.
I understand… I do however feel you can still use snap focus at 40mm, even though the in focus area is smaller. Cropping of course makes you lose pixels, so that’s not ideal… if your main goal is to shoot portraits or course you should go with something else entirely but if you put al the pro’s and con’s in the scale, I do really like the X! (And totally respect your choice of course 😉)
@@NielsdeKemp I can see the appeal of the IIIx, for sure. Maybe a good "Cartier-Bresson" street cam?
@@NielsdeKemp My problem with 40mm (equiv) is it's not ideal for portraits and not ideal for street. It works for street only if you use small apertures for maximum depth of field.
@@RonScibilia but its more ideal for portraits than the non-x version with little more bokeh. and for street you can shoot 2-4 images with the 40mm lense in some seconds and stitch them together easily in LR.
@@mh7711 I wouldn't mind having an X, of course, but I prefer the 28mm for general use.
Thank you for this video. I’ve read that the GR line can get dust on sensor over time. Is this an issue and if so, is there a way to clean the sensor?
Never had any issue with it! GRIII much less than GRII from what I’ve heard but I have used both extensively and never had any problems. I don’t wear my GR in my jeans pocket though…
do these cameras both HAVE ND FILTERS? thank you in advance.
I would love to know which of the two can AF faster.
Super bedankt!
My only wish is that Mr Ricoh should have given more thought and launching a camera with a “35mm” and in so doing spare us a lot of dithering…Nice video thank you very much.
When is the GR4 coming out. Is the chip shortage affecting its development? It’s about time for a real upgrade.
Is there a way for gr3 to get detailed or focused shot with an accessory or the gr3x have field of view shot with an accessory...
Thanks
What camera and lens this video is shot on?
there should be a third GR Version with about 16mm (KB) to get ultra wide shots, I use this (even 14mm) very often (50%) when traveling.
If they were either 21 or 24mm and a 35mm I’d have two of each on order today! So close. Miss my old GRII :)
I would say if you have a dslr with a zoom lens go around and shoot with it set at 28mm for a day and then another day go around at 40mm. See which one is letting you grab the photos that you want. But only use one or the other each day that way you can see if one of them makes you frustrated.
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I’m going to return my griii and get the x for this reason. I need a tighter composition. 28 gets too much stuff!
Ik ben al lang op zoek naar een inzicht over de GR3 vs GR3x. Fantastische uitleg dit! Maar toch.. Ik heb een Fujifilm X100V en wil iets meer een 'pocketable' camera. Dus ik kijk naar de GR3(x). Soms is de 35mm van de Fuji te krap en zou ik liever wijder kunnen. Maar 28mm lijkt me dan weer teveel "alsof je met je telefoon fotografeert". Ik ben bang dat de 40mm soms nog meer te krap zal zijn (zeker indoors).
Dan de GR's: Waarom zou je een GR3x aanschaffen als je al een GR3 hebt? Is de GR3 stiekem te wijd? Werkt crop/digitale zoom niet goed genoeg? Ik kom er niet uit.
Als iedereen met een GR3 gewoon zou digizoomen/croppen dan zou ik direct voor de GR3 gaan. Maar omdat de GR3x bestaat en mensen ze ook allebei hebben zie ik niet wat ik mis.
Get the GR iii for landscape, the GR iii X for street!
Thank you sir
Why can't they make accessories usable on both cameras?
I was a late to the party. I bought the GRIII X first late last year then was blown away - a little and a literal pocketable camera with a crop sensor that you can bring with you anytime, anywhere (well, except on extreme weather situations). Then after a month, I realized I need something wider. Then I bought the GR III. With these cameras, I used my A7R IV less and less as time passes by... 😅
Ok so if you had to choose one which would it be
Would you recommend buying the old Ricoh GRD series in 2022
Can you make a video about this topic
Thank You
I have a GRD-IV. Obviously it's not 2022 state-of-the-art. However. . . It has some charms. The small sensor and 6mm lens gives huge depth-of-field, which is sometimes just what the doctor ordered for street photography. It's tiny and lightweight even compared with other GR-series models. It has sensor stabilization like the GR III, but also a built-in flash like the GR II. It has native 4:3 aspect ratio, which I personally am fond of. It also conveniently uses the same battery as my GR II. (The GR III is the odd one out with a different battery.)
great video!
Thanks!
Do you have any experience how good the connection to smartphones work? A video about that topic would be awesome. Taking pictures and directly transfaring it to the phone to edit and share it. thx.
Works like a charm! Will make a short about it soon, easy breezy 🙏
thank you - exactly the information that I needed . . . I think GR iii x for me :)
Great video! Thx alot. Wow ... Ricoh should produce a cheap thread adapter so you could use the lenses interchangeably ... there are people out there buying the various models because they want the different focal lenses ...
You can always crop with 28mm..😊
Hallo Niels, is de grIII beter voor nachtelijke fotografie ? Of mazkt dit geen verschil, want beiden hebben uiteraard dezelfde sensor
Ze zijn min of meer hetzelfde wat dat betreft. De autofocus heeft wel moeite met weinig licht.
@@NielsdeKemp zijn er andere compactcameras die beter zijn voor nachtfotografie ?
What do you mean that there is a teleconversion for gr3x? Will it make the gr3x have better field of view?
The Ricoh GT-2 tele conversion lens, giving the GRIIIx a 75mm ff field of view. Whether or not this is a better field of view, is for you to decide 😉👍
Ok so gr3x good for portrait and if I prefer field of view I use the conversion
Oh I'm very new with photography. May I clarify the higher the number will give us more focus image? So the 28mm give wide and when we use the wide lens adapter converts it to 21mm?
I'm really leaning toward the IIIx, but I need to cover travel, and a memorial that will be in a small ancient church. Would I have more leeway with the III and crop when needed? I also do enjoy street photography.
The 40mm of the GRIIIx really is quite cropped… if you need the wider field of view, I would go for the GRIII!
@@NielsdeKemp Thanks. I did order the III. I can alway jump to my XPro3 if I need more reach. Thank you for the good advice!
With 40mm I find myself in too many scenarios where I can’t back up. With 28mm I can walk closer
Easy choice then! 🙏
TL;DR Get the 28mm. Use crop mode if you need 40mm.
I have a question if someone can answer, does the iiix ring work on iii? because I wanna buy a nisi adapter and I found it only for iiix. thanks!
No, it doesn’t work unfortunately
May I ask with ricoh gr3 portrait shot using 28mm can you just use the zoom the focus on the subject?
While with ricoh gr3x will the standard view already zoom because of the 40mm lens. Can you still use 40mm for scenery shots?
What can capture both worlds, portrait and scenery. The gr3 or gr3x
Thanks
Of course both can do both, but you have to consider the 28mm on the GRIII is a bit to wide for proper portraits (a bit distorted) and the 40mm is a bit cropped to capture the wide scenery’s (though pano is a good option). As I said, both can do both but they have their own specialities 👍
I have lost this damn ring 3 times, now it’s glued…
I want both
Do it! :)
Both
Agreed!
Is the 3x sharper than the 3
Both absolutely razor sharp
Any dust issue from g iiix?
No, not unless you put it in a sandy or dirty pocket! I stick mine in a sandwich bag and then in my pocket - particularly useful in very cold weather as you can drop a desiccant sachet in and avoid condensation issues when going between heat and cold. I also find that on a windy day on a beach its best to put a cheap adapter and polariser or clear filter on to keep sand away from the lens making it safer than using my interchangable lens cameras.
@@janwilson9485 Very good advice. Thanks.
How would this compare to say a Canon G9X
G9x has zoom, GR doesn’t… Other than that, the GR is just better. Image quality, bigger sensor, ergonomics, etc etc. I’d pick the GR, the price is higher but you get your money’s worth
@@NielsdeKemp Thanks man, been considering the upgrade for years, it is yeah $1400 straight up though
Vote X
Why don't they make a TCL for the III and WCL for the IIIx instead? Seems more logical to me.
Then you’d have, between the III and the IIIx, four focal lengths that are close together. Now you have four focal lengths that are across a wide range
@@NielsdeKemp I think if you've got a 28mm you'd prefer to be able to convert to something longer.. but maybe that's just me.. =) I won't be buying any converters though.. (just ordered my first GR, the III)..
Does the IIIx have stabilization, and the III doesn't?
They both have stabilization 👌
@@NielsdeKemp Sweet! I had the GRII and miss it terribly!
I chose both, but GR3 is better for me.
I dont get the "too wide". Just crop it. You cant crop out!
Cropping doesn’t get rid of distortion inherent in a wider lens; a cropped 28mm shot is still a 28mm shot!
I honestly do not think anything can touch the Canon m200 or the m6II with a fast 22mm pancake, or even faster wide angle lense.
GRII has 35mm/50mm crop.
Yeah, you can crop in post as well… You lose pixels though…
So does the GRIII and you’ve got more pixels to play with.
I would definitely get the GRIII and use the crop feature ahead of the GRIIIx, if you can’t move back you’re buggered.
How is 40mm more generic than 28mm when 28 is what smartphones mostly shoot in?
you just answered your own question
It seems anti consumer to not allow the x to shoot wider or the non-x to shoot more tele. Pretty obvious that Ricoh is trying to tempt people to buy both cameras, rather than buying one with an adapter lens that gets you close to the other camera..
The whole existence of the IIIx is because the consumer asked for it… To call it anti consumer, don’t agree with that :)
@@NielsdeKemp i think the cameras themselves are great and a service of them to offer. I know it's pretty niche to begin with. I just don't like their accessory decisions
I was thinking about the conversion lens too. Couldn’t Ricoh make a tele lens for the 28 that would make it a 40?
28mm…
NON X FOE ME
Get your hand on noth and try to compare, so this clip was for nothing.
40 mm is boring
Ok 🤷♂️
For the love of God eliminate the unnecessary distracting annoying background music. You are probably adding it because everyone else does. Bad decision. Be a leader. When educating - educate. Let others entertain ....
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