I chose the GRIII because I was looking more for a snapshot camera for vacations and daily activities, not necessarily looking to do 'art'. And I feel the same way about preferring a wider field of view while on vacation.
If you get the Griii (non x), you can buy the OEM adapter (GA-1), and the slap the telephoto lens for the Griiix, conversely, if you get a Griiix, then you can get the OEM adapter (GA-2), and buy the wide angle lens for it. It is not necessarily the same, but it's a work around. Also, be mindful, if you do have the griii (non x), and decide to adapt the tele lens on it, you will see barrel vignetting, to mitigate this, set the camera crop to 35mm or 50mm. Nice cameras either way. P.S. the reason I say OEM adapter is because that's the only adapter that has electronic contacts, means the EXIF will reflect to the focal length you decide to use "Wide or Tele" and it will be displayed on the GRiii screen.
There are so many reviews out there, but I really like your upbeat, funny and welcoming personality. I find that a lot of Ricoh users have some great images that induce a sort of calm demeanour in all their photographs. Coupled with soft, ambient soundtrack it's so relaxing. Love watching these. Keep it coming!
I went with the GRIII over the GRIIIX. The way I think about the difference is that the X is for your perspective. It's closer, more focused on one point in the frame. Great for capturing personal memories easily with less clutter, a real point and shoot. With the III you have to work for your shot a little more. It's a little more dramatic and unnatural a perspective, so you want to work a scene and find the ideal angle and distance to massage clutter into context. It will net you technically better photos because of the extra consideration and effort, but you will probably end up sacrificing flow for this. For example: I'm more likely to get into the dirt to make a shot really pop with the III, whereas with the X I just hold it up at what I was looking at and fire. This is why if I was to recommend one to a casual newcomer, I'd recommend the X. It's overall less faff, and you're more likely to be instantly pleased with your images. You probably don't want to fight your camera unless you're a bit of nerd like me. 🤓 Either way, check out EYExplore shooting the GR in Asakusa, on the official Ricoh channel. 👑
As a newcomer, this is exactly how I felt haha. I felt the III was too wide, but was way more pleased with the X, so I sold the III. That was about a year ago, and I have zero regrets.
I did consider the GR III(X) but went with the Nikon Z30 instead. Super happy with that one for street photography as well as a small and light camera to take on bicycle rides.
After owning the GRIIIX for around 9 months I'd recommend almost anyone to go with the regular 28mm equivalent unless you religiously shoot at 85+ then you might feel more at home with 40mm. I found that there's still a lot of character missing from the 40mm and there have been many situations where I found myself wanting a wider shot. Especially for street photography. Given that it's so small there's a lot of times where you want to take casual group photos and things of that nature when traveling or hanging out and I ran out of room to back up many times.
the fuji 27mm f2.8 is one of my favorites so I think the 40mm on this is just fantastic. Especially for people who have a hard time walking right up to people on the street if they want to get them in the shot
what if I want to take photos only of people. I'm tired of buying Portra film so would the GR III be fine? I use very often the Sigma 18-35 on various film stocks
@@filipmokrogulski if you need a pocket camera yes, if you need a more classical camera, I would say go to Fuji X pro 2 or 3, but it's very complicated to answer
I think they're both great options. If you primarily want to take portraits the GRIIIx might be slightly more flattering but can't go wrong with either. Group photos might be a little more convenient with the GRIII@@filipmokrogulski
I was searching random videos comparing GR iii and iiix... your video is really helpful also as a JM fan, it was such a surprise to see the Born and Raised album in the comparison pictures.
Great overview! I decided and got... both. 😀 I have no preferred field of view. Which suits me best depends on where I am: narrow streets vs wide streets or even landscapes. BTW, I have the regular GRIII and the Urban edition GRIIIx. Reason is for the Urban edition is not esthetics, but practicality, i.e. being able to see which is which in the bag.
It’s funny that you were talking about having rural edition. About two weeks after they first released it I thought they had a dairy version instead of the diary version.
I watched so many comparison videos and left feeling even more indecisive than before watching them, but yours sold me on the standard GR III simply for the selfie aspect 🥹 Thank you!
Not in the market for a Ricoh - but if Omar is posting about it…….. 😅 Back to reality! Not in the market for one but I watched until the end simply because your content is generally balanced and informative (and very fun to watch). I find learning more about other systems, cameras and user perspective very valuable. Nicely done.
My favorite focal length is 35mm. However, if I has to choose between the two, I would chose the GR III with the 28mm. It seems like it puts you in the middle of the scene vs being an observer.
I always find wide angles more difficult to handle than normal lenses and 40mm is closer to normal on APS-C than 28mm. With 40mm you can allways step back a litte to widen your angle and be more discrete on street photopraphy. Sure one could say with 28mm you can step forward, so it depends on your personal choice or preference.
Overall I actually liked the compositions of the 40mm better. Sometimes it feels like the 28 is just capturing too much and not enough focus on the subject so the 28 feels more like snapshots vs a thought out photo.
So yeah, I ended up buying both (used), an OG GRIIIx and a Street Edition GRIII (black ring only). I opted to minimize my kit from a X-T3 with a bunch of lenses, as I was often finding myself not bringing my camera with me due to size. I have one of these in my pocket all the time now, and sometimes take both in my small sling, and that's been worth it. But really, I think the lens and sensor combinations in these two cameras are second to none and I love how razor sharp my images come out. I may buy back into an ILC or medium format system down the road, but right now, having these two fit all my needs.
I picked up the IIIx in New York about this time last year. (I apparently got the last one in NYC at the time!) I've been a GR user since the original GR Digital in 2005 and most recently using the GRII. The IIIx is my everyday carry. There are definitely times when I miss the wider angle. However, I have been using the 77mm crop often lately to punch in on interesting architectural details or when I see an interesting composition coming together be I can't get close enough fast enough! I'm looking forward for the GR IV 😁😁😁
I’ve had a GRIII for a couple of years now …. And just love it … I was tempted to swop, but Nah … carry it everywhere! Even when I have my XT4 with me … What’s great about them is that people just think I’m a tourist snapping away and I’ve never been challenged … really great for ‘street’ …
As an EDC, I just got the GRIII (original black). It is great at capturing moments since the camera can always be with you (pocketable). You just pull it out from your pocket and snap. I am a Fujifilm user, had the x100f and I find GRIII makes more sense as an EDC. The special edition colors are nice but I think the black is the one to get which matches the purpose of this camera, low profile and discreet. The downside of this camera is a) no WR, dust issue is always in my mind and b) auto focus is almost useless at night. I hope the GRIV will fix these issues.
I got the GR3 and programmed the side wireless button for the crop mode toggle 26/35/50. So if i want to get closer and I can't walk closer I can crop/zoom. Probably get better quality cropping in software though but for quick snaps it works.
For me personally I prefer ‘twenties’ in mm for street photography. And a small and rather discrete camera. Not sure if those Ricoh’s fit that bill. My X-E2 with 23mm pancake is my favorite but needs a replacement eventually. Will remember Ricoh. Thanks for sharing!
I had both, I preferred 40mm all-around, still end up selling the X. AF is just too slow for my kids, A7III can do the job, GR3X only with very still portraits. For snapsots the 28mm version is better where AF speed is less critical. Also for indoor shots it's more usable focal length, however 40mm DOF is more artistic, I loved this separation in a tiny camera. I hope Ricoh can upgrade AF in next generation, at least A7III speed.
Hi Omar. Yes it might be nice to have both but surely the choice comes down to some people preferring 28 mm and others preferring 40. Me, I have the GR III, bought before the X came out but I still would have chosen the X-less version. The lenses are so good that cropping in camera or in post is hardly ever an issue for me since my style of photography does not necessarily depend on great sharpness in the final product. Having said all that, I do have an X100V and so that satisfies my need of a slightly longer focal length (and a flippy screen!!). But if I carry both in my small camera bag and have the Fuji in my hand, I often switch to the GR III if I cannot get everything into the field of view, which often happens in tighter spots in the street.
In Photo/Camera Mode it can crop from Off/40mm-50mm-71mm for even closer view without losing picture quality using the GR3X. I just move back more for that wider field of view for 28mm. Cheers!
Nice content Omar ;). Thanks for helping me to choose between these two cameras. I like the III probably more because I like to travel and I already have 6D with 70-200 so I need to have a pocket camera with wide-angle lens.
I have the GRIII and I love it. A lot of people complain about the dpad ring failing but mine is still working fine. Having said that it seems more and more the only camera I have with me is my Iphone 14 Pro.
Thank you for such entertaining instruction! Which camera would you recommend for someone who would use autofocus despite higher ambitions? I'm not a photographer but I like taking photos occasionally without working out calculations. Besides, after cataract ops I can't see tiny numbers/letters on a screen close up so i just concentrate on the scene in front of the camera and try to get the beauty or joy or quirkiness of it into the photo, whether it's scenery, my dogs or informal socialising. I currently just use my iPhone but am hoping this camera would help offset poor focusing and light and hand-shaking. I'm willing to spend the dosh to compensate for my lack of ability. I would appreciate your advice, and anyone else's.
40mm used to be popular but is a much underrated focal lens right now. It gives you a cinematic look and I love it. Now would I switch over from Fuji to Ricoh? Maybe next time 😂 I said the same thing about the Nikon Z fc and I actually love their new (full frame) version the Z f so... Anyway thanks for another great video!
Fun presentation, even if you don't buy either camera. Nice to add some humor to the equipment videos where the presenters take themselves too seriously. Many photographers will already have a camera or two, so the choice here becomes which focal length fills out the spectrum of your equipment.
It is about choice! I much prefer 40mm over 28, it is the sweetspot to be able to photograph things further away without being silly and still doing indoor photos at the same time. But I get that other people enjoy wider lenses. For me it will stay with my Fuji and the 28mm apsc focal length -> 40mm equiv
If you want to use Snap focus (and you should) then the regular III is the better choice as the wider lens has much more depth of field, so your in-focus zone is much larger.
Hey Omar! Love your channel and content. Wondering if you’ve ever used and/or reviewed the Nikon Coolpix A…another (albeit 10 yr old) pocket sized APS-C sensor powerhouse. I had always heard tale of these cameras, but chalked them up as mythical unicorns. However, KEH had one listed for $265 and I snatched it up! I’ve had the GRII, GRIII, and the Leica LX2…all of which were fine cameras…but this Coolpix A is the most rugged and lovely-to-use camera, that is simply a joy to use and take literally anywhere. It’s basically like having a 16MP D7100 in your pocket. Truly an underrated Nikon gem!
I had a Ricoh GR Digital 2 back in the day, regret selling it. Sometimes thought it was just a little to wide as my sole camera. Think 35mm would be the absolute sweet spot.
Great video and comparison. I want one of these when I grow up :3 I think where the camera world meets regular people, who typically use their phone, there's definite confusion about field of view and focal length. I was looking into getting a m4/3 camera recently and when trying to figure out what lenses to get (before I had the camera) I assumed the "standard" 35mm/50mm full frame equivalent were somewhere in the ballpark of camera phones, but then learned phone main cameras are typically 23-26mm ff equivalent. What's wide to a photographer isn't necessarily wide to a non-photographer, I suppose (people are so used to that wide angle distortion that it looks "normal"). I think the choice of ricohs would be easier if people knew the "28" is tighter than most phones, and the "40" has more reach but is a bit too tight for a lot of small apartment/house indoor situations. Actually it wouldn't help at all, would it :D. I'd still want both.
I noticed that around 2:46 and a little later you confused the cameras 😅 the blue is the ‘X’ Love your video tho! Is gonna be my first camera ever so I am searching everywhere 😂 I will probably go with the ricoh gr iiix and whenever I want to shoot video or wider just use my iphone. Thanks for the review
It's so crazy so many people are comparing it to the Sony a7iii. They say th af isn't as good, but it should say a lot that it is being compared to a full frame interchangeable lens camera. If anything, it should be compared to a Sony a6700.
Yes, hmm GR III for more dynamic photos where the viewer feels "in the scene" which is to me the obvious choice for true street photography. You'll also have a far easier time shooting buildings while on the street. The GR IIIx risk having you run into the issue of not having space to move farther back. I think of the GR IIIx for less documentary and travel style, and more artsy photos with two main side benefits: more bokeh and better compression for distant objects. I'm also having trouble choosing one. Like on the iPhone, I just *know* I will get annoyed by stuff feeling annoyingly distant on the GR III because I do with my smartphone, haha. But I enjoy the dynamic photos of the GR III.
I think about buying a GR about once a year. But, I keep coming back to the Sony RX100 vii which I already own. I just like having the ability to go from 24-200mm in a pocket camera.
There are a lot of pocketable point-and-shoot style cameras with viewfinders, flash, better auto white balance, AF in low light....but what the GR has is film photo sims/recipes that you can change-up in-camera, which fujifilm doesn't do. You could be in a monochrome mode and snap a picture, and if you think it might've been better in a color version, change it. Other brands don't even do vintage film sims. It's literally the only reason I'd consider a GR. Otherwise I'd be using my old Nikon Coolpix or my S22 Ultra for my EDC (which it is).
I'm SOOO TORN between the two! Usually with DSLRs I tend to use 35mm and 85mm the most, but I totally dislike 40mm because to me it sits right on that zero-pivit-point of distortion and compression that gives lenses a certain character unless you have full frame pop to the image like you would get on Zeiss or Voigtlander glass, which the Ricoh GRIIIx sadly doesn't have. The GRIII however with the 28mm does have some three-dimensional render (as you sample pictures demonstrate very well) and I do love 28mm lenses, but I would have to get so close for street photography all the time and it would not be a good compromise, because it would just be too wide for most of my desired shots. Also the auto WB was indeed better on the GRIII, I agree! So I gotta get both then...
I bought the GRIII early this year and love it for travel and landscapes… I did however recently pick up a GRIIIX and carry both with me everywhere I go. Not sure which I prefer yet, but having choice is maybe not the best with these two cameras
Hey Omar, many thanks for the entertaining, humorous test. I think I must have one of the two. But which one only? Or both? I still need some time. Greetings from Germany, Rainer!!!
Until last month I only shot with Fujifilm x-T2/4. Due to the boring comments of my top management aka wife about running around like a cargo donkey I changed my behaviour 😅. Now I carry the GR III with me in my trouser pocket! Very inconspicuous!!! 🎉 And I get great street pictures and even macro shots! Without further comments of my family!!! 😂😂😂 P.S. I can even use jpg recipes for the Ricoh. So it feels like a mini Fuji. Almost!
What about the lack of zoom on both, particularly the original? Is the image sharp still if you take a general scene photo and then crop out and zoom in on a bit?
I love that I happened to be buying this almost exactly when this came out. I have been fighting between the two cameras, and I was leaning towards the iii, but having a smallest amount of bokeh on the x was a nice to have... but it's true, I want wider, the things I would want to shoot with this would be wider... if I want bokeh I should be busting out my fujis.
Been waiting for my Fujifilm x100v for 8 months now (it's on backorder), and I have a trip to Japan coming up, so if I don't get my x100v soon, I might just cancel my order and get one of these.
The X100V is likely never coming back. They have updated all their processors and sensors to the new generation. They would need to source the older tech to manufacture more of the previous generation on the older production line. I doubt they left the old line waiting for the necessary parts, and more likely packed it all up to make space for the new generation. They're probably going to leave the back order up until they announce the X100H or whatever the sixth one is going to be called. Fujifilm even used up their surplus stock to make a limited edition Disney skinned version they sold to the HK market earlier this year. So they probably don't even have one to sell you at gun point by now. 😂 Good luck with the GR. It's a better camera tbh. IBIS alone will get you shots you couldn't get with the X100V without a tripod. Alternatively, you can get the Sony a7CII full frame camera with the Zeiss 35f2.8 and have the same size camera as the X100V but just lightyears better AF.
Another sadistic video !!! I've been looking for the ONE between these two for a long time, for every day carry/shoot. But I think you are right, Omar. It's been a while RICOH has not updated the GR series. Thanks for that interesting real life comparison.
Since this is an APSC, I'm going to talk in APSC. What this comparison highlights that is the magical middle ground that is 23mm. So out of the two I'd prefer a GRIV either with a bigger sensor and the 18mm on the GRIII, or a GRIV with 23mm. I guess that's why I never took the plunge. I'd err towards the GRIII having owned the fuji x70 twice (18.5mm). Will be on a different price level, but Fuji now has a highly impressice 40mp sensor in its pocket. If it combined that with an 18mm lens in the X100VI (apparently its getting a new lens, which i think means either wider taking a cue from the Q2/3 or to better resolve 40MP. Why not both?), with options to punch in to 23, 35, 50, the extra bulk could easily be overlooked. So, I do think Ricoh should be pushing that update sooner than later before Fuji reveals its hand in the spring. If the x100VI is yet anothet 23mm variant, id rather pick up a GR III with 18mm, just want to see whats in store...
I SOOOOOO could care less about the Ricoh GR products, but I will watch anything that you make, Omar. However, I thought I should point out that in the first half of the video you have your labels reversed. Example: at 2:51. I hope everyone is having a great day. Check out the Nikon Zf….it’s gonna be big.
I bought the GriiiX . I then bought the Griii and i personally don't like 28 so i got rid of it. The 40 just makes you more creative in my opinion. I shoot vertical more now. To accommodate for the 40 in tight spots. These cameras are really incredible for what they are capable of. I get sharp shots @ 1/40th all the time. I could never do that on my other cameras.
I just wish they were cheaper. For the price, the lack of weather sealing and the issue with dust getting into them is a real killer. I would take a plastic build with weather sealing over the current alloy build with no sealing, personally.
@@jockslifeatliftvideoproduc8528 i mean... the gr does not say made in japan. Other than that. I think its built nice. Its not a tank . I agree they have to work on this
I just bought an Iphone 15 Pro and deciding if is still worth buying a Ricoh gr III, I am afraid there will be a new one coming next year since it was released a while ago. Sometimes I don´t want to carry my big sensor camera and I don´t know if the new camera on the iphone 15 pro is getting similar results as the ricoh gr III. How do you feel the ricoh gr III files against an iphone raw or heic photo? thank you!
Great video! I have no desire for either of these cameras, but was simply interested in how you might present them, and I wasn't disappointed. Entertaining as ever and educational with great perspective. I might add that I have the now infamous Fuji x100v with the 28 mm WCL. I'm telling this because your point about the fixed lens forces you to shoot according to your focal length, however I do enjoy having the option to go to a 28 mm lens quickly based on the situation. Great stuff as always. Thanks
I don't own X100, but I have XT-30II, which is comparable to X100. For me, Ricoh GR and Fuji serve different purposes. If I go outside with a goal to shoot pictures, I take Fuji. But if I just go for a walk, I take Ricoh. Even if I dont get a single picture on that day, no big deal. Ricoh weights almost nothing, fits in a pocket, so you kinda forget it's there. As for image quality, it might be subjective, but I feel like Fuji raw files are more elastic and generly require less corrections in Lighroom than raws from Ricoh. And I like Fuji colors a bit more, even without film simulations.
As someone new wanting to get a point shoot. I really want a ricoh gr but for me as a beginner would yall recommend the griii or x want to use it for everyday use and travel
Suprising that you don't use Full Press Snap vs touchscreen to engage snap-focus... especially on the GRIII where you can shoot from the hip easily since it's 28mm. Aside from that - I'd choose a diff body if I wanted to shoot 40mm methinks. 28mm and GR just go hand in hand (I might be biased since I have the GRII as well).
Ricoh GR3X with 40mm lens like standard lens whereas 28mm lens like wide angle lens for architecture or landscape photography. My preference for 40mm lens. Leica Q with 28mm lens which may suit some people? Not me
I chose the GRIII because I was looking more for a snapshot camera for vacations and daily activities, not necessarily looking to do 'art'. And I feel the same way about preferring a wider field of view while on vacation.
If you get the Griii (non x), you can buy the OEM adapter (GA-1), and the slap the telephoto lens for the Griiix, conversely, if you get a Griiix, then you can get the OEM adapter (GA-2), and buy the wide angle lens for it. It is not necessarily the same, but it's a work around. Also, be mindful, if you do have the griii (non x), and decide to adapt the tele lens on it, you will see barrel vignetting, to mitigate this, set the camera crop to 35mm or 50mm. Nice cameras either way. P.S. the reason I say OEM adapter is because that's the only adapter that has electronic contacts, means the EXIF will reflect to the focal length you decide to use "Wide or Tele" and it will be displayed on the GRiii screen.
Are the lenses also oem or original ?
@@tarkuysal8221 OEM lenses, unless you can find 49mm thread lenses that mimic Ricoh wide and tele options.
There are so many reviews out there, but I really like your upbeat, funny and welcoming personality. I find that a lot of Ricoh users have some great images that induce a sort of calm demeanour in all their photographs. Coupled with soft, ambient soundtrack it's so relaxing. Love watching these. Keep it coming!
I went with the GRIII over the GRIIIX.
The way I think about the difference is that the X is for your perspective. It's closer, more focused on one point in the frame. Great for capturing personal memories easily with less clutter, a real point and shoot.
With the III you have to work for your shot a little more. It's a little more dramatic and unnatural a perspective, so you want to work a scene and find the ideal angle and distance to massage clutter into context. It will net you technically better photos because of the extra consideration and effort, but you will probably end up sacrificing flow for this.
For example: I'm more likely to get into the dirt to make a shot really pop with the III, whereas with the X I just hold it up at what I was looking at and fire.
This is why if I was to recommend one to a casual newcomer, I'd recommend the X. It's overall less faff, and you're more likely to be instantly pleased with your images. You probably don't want to fight your camera unless you're a bit of nerd like me. 🤓
Either way, check out EYExplore shooting the GR in Asakusa, on the official Ricoh channel. 👑
I've had two griis and now have an original GRD1, I agree, the narrowed FOV would suit my needs better too.
As a newcomer, this is exactly how I felt haha. I felt the III was too wide, but was way more pleased with the X, so I sold the III. That was about a year ago, and I have zero regrets.
It depends, don't worry))
thanks bro, im going to the X.
Thanks for this! It helps understand the difference between the two more! It really depends on the user.
GriiiX user here. Loving the focal length still great for street and can do portraits too. Double win 🤘🤘🤘
I have the GRIIIx and think about the 28 mm all the time, so there´s that. So much for it becoming your focal length ..
I had the GR3x...sold it and bought the GR3, so far happy with the GR3
I did consider the GR III(X) but went with the Nikon Z30 instead. Super happy with that one for street photography as well as a small and light camera to take on bicycle rides.
What lens are you using with Nikon ?
@@stanislavrico 16-50mm kit lens
After owning the GRIIIX for around 9 months I'd recommend almost anyone to go with the regular 28mm equivalent unless you religiously shoot at 85+ then you might feel more at home with 40mm. I found that there's still a lot of character missing from the 40mm and there have been many situations where I found myself wanting a wider shot. Especially for street photography.
Given that it's so small there's a lot of times where you want to take casual group photos and things of that nature when traveling or hanging out and I ran out of room to back up many times.
thanks for the feedback
the fuji 27mm f2.8 is one of my favorites so I think the 40mm on this is just fantastic. Especially for people who have a hard time walking right up to people on the street if they want to get them in the shot
what if I want to take photos only of people. I'm tired of buying Portra film so would the GR III be fine? I use very often the Sigma 18-35 on various film stocks
@@filipmokrogulski if you need a pocket camera yes, if you need a more classical camera, I would say go to Fuji X pro 2 or 3, but it's very complicated to answer
I think they're both great options. If you primarily want to take portraits the GRIIIx might be slightly more flattering but can't go wrong with either. Group photos might be a little more convenient with the GRIII@@filipmokrogulski
I was searching random videos comparing GR iii and iiix... your video is really helpful also as a JM fan, it was such a surprise to see the Born and Raised album in the comparison pictures.
Great overview!
I decided and got... both. 😀 I have no preferred field of view. Which suits me best depends on where I am: narrow streets vs wide streets or even landscapes.
BTW, I have the regular GRIII and the Urban edition GRIIIx. Reason is for the Urban edition is not esthetics, but practicality, i.e. being able to see which is which in the bag.
It’s funny that you were talking about having rural edition. About two weeks after they first released it I thought they had a dairy version instead of the diary version.
I watched so many comparison videos and left feeling even more indecisive than before watching them, but yours sold me on the standard GR III simply for the selfie aspect 🥹 Thank you!
Not in the market for a Ricoh - but if Omar is posting about it…….. 😅 Back to reality! Not in the market for one but I watched until the end simply because your content is generally balanced and informative (and very fun to watch). I find learning more about other systems, cameras and user perspective very valuable. Nicely done.
My favorite focal length is 35mm. However, if I has to choose between the two, I would chose the GR III with the 28mm. It seems like it puts you in the middle of the scene vs being an observer.
I always find wide angles more difficult to handle than normal lenses and 40mm is closer to normal on APS-C than 28mm.
With 40mm you can allways step back a litte to widen your angle and be more discrete on street photopraphy.
Sure one could say with 28mm you can step forward, so it depends on your personal choice or preference.
I’m much more confused after watching this video.
There are two focal lengths to choose from. What other information do you need?
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I want both goddammit
I'm with you
Thanks!
Thank you!!!!!!
Overall I actually liked the compositions of the 40mm better. Sometimes it feels like the 28 is just capturing too much and not enough focus on the subject so the 28 feels more like snapshots vs a thought out photo.
So yeah, I ended up buying both (used), an OG GRIIIx and a Street Edition GRIII (black ring only). I opted to minimize my kit from a X-T3 with a bunch of lenses, as I was often finding myself not bringing my camera with me due to size. I have one of these in my pocket all the time now, and sometimes take both in my small sling, and that's been worth it. But really, I think the lens and sensor combinations in these two cameras are second to none and I love how razor sharp my images come out. I may buy back into an ILC or medium format system down the road, but right now, having these two fit all my needs.
Oh, and one more thing, I think Omar is right about the versatility of the GRIII. Though I think the GRIIIx just feels sharper to me overall.
I picked up the IIIx in New York about this time last year. (I apparently got the last one in NYC at the time!) I've been a GR user since the original GR Digital in 2005 and most recently using the GRII. The IIIx is my everyday carry. There are definitely times when I miss the wider angle. However, I have been using the 77mm crop often lately to punch in on interesting architectural details or when I see an interesting composition coming together be I can't get close enough fast enough! I'm looking forward for the GR IV 😁😁😁
Man…you messed me up. I was set to get the x. I have a q2 and felt this was my fav focal length. Great video
I’ve had a GRIII for a couple of years now …. And just love it … I was tempted to swop, but Nah … carry it everywhere! Even when I have my XT4 with me … What’s great about them is that people just think I’m a tourist snapping away and I’ve never been challenged … really great for ‘street’ …
As an EDC, I just got the GRIII (original black). It is great at capturing moments since the camera can always be with you (pocketable). You just pull it out from your pocket and snap. I am a Fujifilm user, had the x100f and I find GRIII makes more sense as an EDC. The special edition colors are nice but I think the black is the one to get which matches the purpose of this camera, low profile and discreet. The downside of this camera is a) no WR, dust issue is always in my mind and b) auto focus is almost useless at night. I hope the GRIV will fix these issues.
I got the GR3 and programmed the side wireless button for the crop mode toggle 26/35/50. So if i want to get closer and I can't walk closer I can crop/zoom. Probably get better quality cropping in software though but for quick snaps it works.
For me personally I prefer ‘twenties’ in mm for street photography. And a small and rather discrete camera. Not sure if those Ricoh’s fit that bill. My X-E2 with 23mm pancake is my favorite but needs a replacement eventually. Will remember Ricoh. Thanks for sharing!
im not english native, what does pancake means for a lens ?
@@chriscard6544 It means it is a smaller lens, low profile, doesn't stick out as far as some other lenses do.
@@TheArtisticFlavor ok thank you very much
I had both, I preferred 40mm all-around, still end up selling the X. AF is just too slow for my kids, A7III can do the job, GR3X only with very still portraits. For snapsots the 28mm version is better where AF speed is less critical. Also for indoor shots it's more usable focal length, however 40mm DOF is more artistic, I loved this separation in a tiny camera. I hope Ricoh can upgrade AF in next generation, at least A7III speed.
I still have my GRII. It is such a pleasure to use. Even if it is only a 16Mpx
I lo-o-o-ve this review because of this Office-vibe humor. Please, sir, continue.
Hi Omar. Yes it might be nice to have both but surely the choice comes down to some people preferring 28 mm and others preferring 40. Me, I have the GR III, bought before the X came out but I still would have chosen the X-less version. The lenses are so good that cropping in camera or in post is hardly ever an issue for me since my style of photography does not necessarily depend on great sharpness in the final product. Having said all that, I do have an X100V and so that satisfies my need of a slightly longer focal length (and a flippy screen!!). But if I carry both in my small camera bag and have the Fuji in my hand, I often switch to the GR III if I cannot get everything into the field of view, which often happens in tighter spots in the street.
Great stuff. I've just picked up the GR III HDF
Yo thanks for the lols while researching the Ricoh griiis. Not technical but definitely experiential.
What you said at the end is the perfect summary. You make the photo work with whatever version you have
In Photo/Camera Mode it can crop from Off/40mm-50mm-71mm for even closer view without losing picture quality using the GR3X. I just move back more for that wider field of view for 28mm. Cheers!
Nice content Omar ;). Thanks for helping me to choose between these two cameras. I like the III probably more because I like to travel and I already have 6D with 70-200 so I need to have a pocket camera with wide-angle lens.
I have the GRIII and I love it. A lot of people complain about the dpad ring failing but mine is still working fine. Having said that it seems more and more the only camera I have with me is my Iphone 14 Pro.
I had so much fun watching your video 😂
Thank you for such entertaining instruction! Which camera would you recommend for someone who would use autofocus despite higher ambitions? I'm not a photographer but I like taking photos occasionally without working out calculations. Besides, after cataract ops I can't see tiny numbers/letters on a screen close up so i just concentrate on the scene in front of the camera and try to get the beauty or joy or quirkiness of it into the photo, whether it's scenery, my dogs or informal socialising. I currently just use my iPhone but am hoping this camera would help offset poor focusing and light and hand-shaking. I'm willing to spend the dosh to compensate for my lack of ability. I would appreciate your advice, and anyone else's.
40mm used to be popular but is a much underrated focal lens right now. It gives you a cinematic look and I love it. Now would I switch over from Fuji to Ricoh? Maybe next time 😂 I said the same thing about the Nikon Z fc and I actually love their new (full frame) version the Z f so... Anyway thanks for another great video!
Beautiful photos!!! It is a great small camera!!! What aperture did you use mostly with the GRIII?
I couldn't choose between the two cameras so I bought both, and I use them both fairly equally
Fun presentation, even if you don't buy either camera. Nice to add some humor to the equipment videos where the presenters take themselves too seriously. Many photographers will already have a camera or two, so the choice here becomes which focal length fills out the spectrum of your equipment.
I’m going to try on the wide angle converter for the griii for my Arizona trip 😊
Love the content!! You’re funny hahaha
It is about choice! I much prefer 40mm over 28, it is the sweetspot to be able to photograph things further away without being silly and still doing indoor photos at the same time. But I get that other people enjoy wider lenses.
For me it will stay with my Fuji and the 28mm apsc focal length -> 40mm equiv
If you want to use Snap focus (and you should) then the regular III is the better choice as the wider lens has much more depth of field, so your in-focus zone is much larger.
I want neither of these cameras. I'm just a Omar fanboy, watching all his vids^^
Hey Omar! Love your channel and content. Wondering if you’ve ever used and/or reviewed the Nikon Coolpix A…another (albeit 10 yr old) pocket sized APS-C sensor powerhouse. I had always heard tale of these cameras, but chalked them up as mythical unicorns. However, KEH had one listed for $265 and I snatched it up! I’ve had the GRII, GRIII, and the Leica LX2…all of which were fine cameras…but this Coolpix A is the most rugged and lovely-to-use camera, that is simply a joy to use and take literally anywhere. It’s basically like having a 16MP D7100 in your pocket. Truly an underrated Nikon gem!
I had a Ricoh GR Digital 2 back in the day, regret selling it. Sometimes thought it was just a little to wide as my sole camera. Think 35mm would be the absolute sweet spot.
Great video and comparison. I want one of these when I grow up :3 I think where the camera world meets regular people, who typically use their phone, there's definite confusion about field of view and focal length. I was looking into getting a m4/3 camera recently and when trying to figure out what lenses to get (before I had the camera) I assumed the "standard" 35mm/50mm full frame equivalent were somewhere in the ballpark of camera phones, but then learned phone main cameras are typically 23-26mm ff equivalent. What's wide to a photographer isn't necessarily wide to a non-photographer, I suppose (people are so used to that wide angle distortion that it looks "normal"). I think the choice of ricohs would be easier if people knew the "28" is tighter than most phones, and the "40" has more reach but is a bit too tight for a lot of small apartment/house indoor situations. Actually it wouldn't help at all, would it :D. I'd still want both.
Living in a small town in Wisconsin, I can definitely get on board with that rural edition.
I noticed that around 2:46 and a little later you confused the cameras 😅 the blue is the ‘X’
Love your video tho! Is gonna be my first camera ever so I am searching everywhere 😂 I will probably go with the ricoh gr iiix and whenever I want to shoot video or wider just use my iphone. Thanks for the review
It's so crazy so many people are comparing it to the Sony a7iii. They say th af isn't as good, but it should say a lot that it is being compared to a full frame interchangeable lens camera. If anything, it should be compared to a Sony a6700.
Yes, hmm GR III for more dynamic photos where the viewer feels "in the scene" which is to me the obvious choice for true street photography. You'll also have a far easier time shooting buildings while on the street. The GR IIIx risk having you run into the issue of not having space to move farther back. I think of the GR IIIx for less documentary and travel style, and more artsy photos with two main side benefits: more bokeh and better compression for distant objects. I'm also having trouble choosing one. Like on the iPhone, I just *know* I will get annoyed by stuff feeling annoyingly distant on the GR III because I do with my smartphone, haha. But I enjoy the dynamic photos of the GR III.
Both! I have one and about to get the other. Amazing cameras!
I think about buying a GR about once a year. But, I keep coming back to the Sony RX100 vii which I already own. I just like having the ability to go from 24-200mm in a pocket camera.
I have the RX100 it’s not a patch on either of the Ricohs or the X100v.
There are a lot of pocketable point-and-shoot style cameras with viewfinders, flash, better auto white balance, AF in low light....but what the GR has is film photo sims/recipes that you can change-up in-camera, which fujifilm doesn't do. You could be in a monochrome mode and snap a picture, and if you think it might've been better in a color version, change it. Other brands don't even do vintage film sims. It's literally the only reason I'd consider a GR. Otherwise I'd be using my old Nikon Coolpix or my S22 Ultra for my EDC (which it is).
Both, of course. It is the only right answer.
OMG what would be amazing for this camera is a 90deg viewfinder that can go on the hotshoe so you can compose by looking down at it!
I'm SOOO TORN between the two! Usually with DSLRs I tend to use 35mm and 85mm the most, but I totally dislike 40mm because to me it sits right on that zero-pivit-point of distortion and compression that gives lenses a certain character unless you have full frame pop to the image like you would get on Zeiss or Voigtlander glass, which the Ricoh GRIIIx sadly doesn't have. The GRIII however with the 28mm does have some three-dimensional render (as you sample pictures demonstrate very well) and I do love 28mm lenses, but I would have to get so close for street photography all the time and it would not be a good compromise, because it would just be too wide for most of my desired shots. Also the auto WB was indeed better on the GRIII, I agree! So I gotta get both then...
I bought the GRIII early this year and love it for travel and landscapes… I did however recently pick up a GRIIIX and carry both with me everywhere I go. Not sure which I prefer yet, but having choice is maybe not the best with these two cameras
I went with the IIIx, but you are right… I want both. Not going to get the regular though 😊
Hey Omar, many thanks for the entertaining, humorous test. I think I must have one of the two. But which one only? Or both? I still need some time. Greetings from Germany, Rainer!!!
I have both and I take both on vacations and use GR III 90% of the time.
What lense did you use on this mega blur shot? It’s beautiful!
Awesome, helpful and you made me smile. subscribed.
Until last month I only shot with Fujifilm x-T2/4. Due to the boring comments of my top management aka wife about running around like a cargo donkey I changed my behaviour 😅. Now I carry the GR III with me in my trouser pocket! Very inconspicuous!!! 🎉 And I get great street pictures and even macro shots! Without further comments of my family!!! 😂😂😂 P.S. I can even use jpg recipes for the Ricoh. So it feels like a mini Fuji. Almost!
Best Video about Ricoh. Thank you
What about the lack of zoom on both, particularly the original? Is the image sharp still if you take a general scene photo and then crop out and zoom in on a bit?
Interesting to see the GRIII has the same vignetting issue as the original classic film models.
7:30 min in and yeah am convinced 28mm is it! I like the that extra bit of context (wacky) :)
Awesome pictures! Sooo beautiful! 😮 Can you tell me your settings / recipes? Thank you so much. 🙏
I love that I happened to be buying this almost exactly when this came out. I have been fighting between the two cameras, and I was leaning towards the iii, but having a smallest amount of bokeh on the x was a nice to have... but it's true, I want wider, the things I would want to shoot with this would be wider... if I want bokeh I should be busting out my fujis.
its difficult when you mix up the focal lengths 26mm = 40mm . 18mm = 28, blue is 40 and gold is 28. In 2.57 is swapped around and thus very confusing
On the note of phones, no fighting. My galaxy shooting manual, raw, and edit on Snapseed, produce incredible photos.
Been waiting for my Fujifilm x100v for 8 months now (it's on backorder), and I have a trip to Japan coming up, so if I don't get my x100v soon, I might just cancel my order and get one of these.
The X100V is likely never coming back. They have updated all their processors and sensors to the new generation. They would need to source the older tech to manufacture more of the previous generation on the older production line. I doubt they left the old line waiting for the necessary parts, and more likely packed it all up to make space for the new generation. They're probably going to leave the back order up until they announce the X100H or whatever the sixth one is going to be called.
Fujifilm even used up their surplus stock to make a limited edition Disney skinned version they sold to the HK market earlier this year. So they probably don't even have one to sell you at gun point by now. 😂
Good luck with the GR. It's a better camera tbh. IBIS alone will get you shots you couldn't get with the X100V without a tripod.
Alternatively, you can get the Sony a7CII full frame camera with the Zeiss 35f2.8 and have the same size camera as the X100V but just lightyears better AF.
Just get the Ricohs.
yep X100V out of stock, XE-4 out of stock... If Ricoh's available I'm switching to these.
Great review. Could you share the recipe you use please? I love the look of your shots
edited raws
Another sadistic video !!! I've been looking for the ONE between these two for a long time, for every day carry/shoot.
But I think you are right, Omar. It's been a while RICOH has not updated the GR series. Thanks for that interesting real life comparison.
Since this is an APSC, I'm going to talk in APSC.
What this comparison highlights that is the magical middle ground that is 23mm.
So out of the two I'd prefer a GRIV either with a bigger sensor and the 18mm on the GRIII, or a GRIV with 23mm. I guess that's why I never took the plunge. I'd err towards the GRIII having owned the fuji x70 twice (18.5mm).
Will be on a different price level, but Fuji now has a highly impressice 40mp sensor in its pocket. If it combined that with an 18mm lens in the X100VI (apparently its getting a new lens, which i think means either wider taking a cue from the Q2/3 or to better resolve 40MP. Why not both?), with options to punch in to 23, 35, 50, the extra bulk could easily be overlooked.
So, I do think Ricoh should be pushing that update sooner than later before Fuji reveals its hand in the spring. If the x100VI is yet anothet 23mm variant, id rather pick up a GR III with 18mm, just want to see whats in store...
I SOOOOOO could care less about the Ricoh GR products, but I will watch anything that you make, Omar. However, I thought I should point out that in the first half of the video you have your labels reversed. Example: at 2:51. I hope everyone is having a great day. Check out the Nikon Zf….it’s gonna be big.
False. The label indicates the camera that is taking the photo....of the other camera.
I bought the GriiiX . I then bought the Griii and i personally don't like 28 so i got rid of it. The 40 just makes you more creative in my opinion. I shoot vertical more now. To accommodate for the 40 in tight spots. These cameras are really incredible for what they are capable of. I get sharp shots @ 1/40th all the time. I could never do that on my other cameras.
I just wish they were cheaper. For the price, the lack of weather sealing and the issue with dust getting into them is a real killer. I would take a plastic build with weather sealing over the current alloy build with no sealing, personally.
@@jockslifeatliftvideoproduc8528 i mean... the gr does not say made in japan. Other than that. I think its built nice. Its not a tank . I agree they have to work on this
This or the 27mm pancake for my X-H2??
Are those sample photos straight out of the camera or did you edit them ?
I just bought an Iphone 15 Pro and deciding if is still worth buying a Ricoh gr III, I am afraid there will be a new one coming next year since it was released a while ago. Sometimes I don´t want to carry my big sensor camera and I don´t know if the new camera on the iphone 15 pro is getting similar results as the ricoh gr III. How do you feel the ricoh gr III files against an iphone raw or heic photo? thank you!
I would rather buy a mirrorless camera with interchangeable lenses.
Great comparison! Very helpful ❤
Great video! I have no desire for either of these cameras, but was simply interested in how you might present them, and I wasn't disappointed. Entertaining as ever and educational with great perspective. I might add that I have the now infamous Fuji x100v with the 28 mm WCL. I'm telling this because your point about the fixed lens forces you to shoot according to your focal length, however I do enjoy having the option to go to a 28 mm lens quickly based on the situation. Great stuff as always. Thanks
Any thoughts about either or both of them vs the X100V in performance? Great video by the way.
I don't own X100, but I have XT-30II, which is comparable to X100.
For me, Ricoh GR and Fuji serve different purposes. If I go outside with a goal to shoot pictures, I take Fuji. But if I just go for a walk, I take Ricoh.
Even if I dont get a single picture on that day, no big deal. Ricoh weights almost nothing, fits in a pocket, so you kinda forget it's there.
As for image quality, it might be subjective, but I feel like Fuji raw files are more elastic and generly require less corrections in Lighroom than raws from Ricoh. And I like Fuji colors a bit more, even without film simulations.
thanks Omar! this was helpful
That means, if I like to take portraits more, I should stay with Fujifilm instead of GR 3x, right?
As someone new wanting to get a point shoot. I really want a ricoh gr but for me as a beginner would yall recommend the griii or x
want to use it for everyday use and travel
Hi! How does it compare to the canon g7x mark II? I don't know much about cameras and am debating between those two. Thank you so much!
Go with the GR and don’t look back.
Suprising that you don't use Full Press Snap vs touchscreen to engage snap-focus... especially on the GRIII where you can shoot from the hip easily since it's 28mm. Aside from that - I'd choose a diff body if I wanted to shoot 40mm methinks. 28mm and GR just go hand in hand (I might be biased since I have the GRII as well).
i'm looking for a first camera for me, i'm tied up between the X100V and the GRIIIX , idk what to get lol
What did you decide? Sameeee
Are images SOOC? Great review !
Glad I found your channel. Love your humor and the info.
Best of the Best! 🤩
The price is just a little weighed up… for Me
Exactly what I was looking to learn! Thank you 🙏
Any idea when the 4 will drop?
Ricoh GR3X with 40mm lens like standard lens whereas 28mm lens like wide angle lens for architecture or landscape photography. My preference for 40mm lens. Leica Q with 28mm lens which may suit some people? Not me
DUDE! I have been wanting to get one of these!
great shots. by the way. Thanks