HIMALAYAN 450 vs KTM 390 ADV - HONEST REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- Finally Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 vs KTM 390 Adventure
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0:00 Introduction
3:20 Himalayan Short Review
5:30 Himalayan vs Ktm 390 adv LOOKS
8:20 Vibrations in Himalayan 450 vs Ktm adv 390
11:14 Highway Stability
13:30 off road vs touring
15:40 Value for Money
17:20 Sitting Posture
18:52 weight - Heavy vs Light
20:20 Traction Control
22:50 Dashboard
24:07 Luggage setup
25:20 Airfilter position advantage - disadvantage
27:30 Low end torque ktm vs RE
I am using KTM Adventure 390 as my daily driver and also for touring for last 3 years now. I’ve used this machine in heavy traffic of Bangalore as well as on highways. It’s light weight, nimble and fast. There is definitely buzzing machine, not as smooth as its rivals, but not that annoying also.
agree, also I don't know how bulu bhai is saying himalayan 450 doesnt have vibes. I felt it has too much vibes on my test ride. maybe the test ride bike had problems
These people are paid by RE 😅
Please do a similar comparison with Triumph Scrambler 400 X too as it's an equal competitor for Adventure X, Himalayan 450 with slightly better priced and also seems pocket friendly on maintenance
Ktm adv sw variant with adjustable suspension kills every competition till date, the adventure x and even the standard adv may debate with the him 450 but the rally version of adv 390 feels way superior and different with all the features and balance
both bikes serve different people. The Himalayan 450 is more off-road focused than the Adventure 390, even the SW, because of the low rev grunt that the KTM lacks. If you don't want to keep switching gears off-road, the Himalayan is better than the Adventure 390, but if you want to cruise at high speeds without the feeling that the engine is struggling, then the KTM is better. Himalayan can cruise at high speeds too, just that the Adventure 390 is made for that.
Is ktm 390 suspension so stiff that we can feel back pain in Indian tier two cities road ..roads in small cities are like off road only, the plush level of hero Honda is wat I like but
In every video people for ktm 390 say at less speed it's very uncomfortable in 2gear rides and less comfortable.
Daily office and city usage.
I like looks of ktm 390 and adjustable suspension option.
But since every one saying hard seat and bad on low gear daily ride.
Please clarify I'm in dilemma.
@@derkonig2292 got the fuelx with BMC air filter, engine ice coolant and iridium spark plug and low end issues solved with amazing throttle response due to linear combustion mapped by the ECU. Of course a bit aggressive on the throttle as the 390 engine demands but I love that feeling where you can get out of traps with weight shifts and power. The suspensions work amazing when balanced with each other. Even the quick shifter and auto blipper is butter smooth in transition.the ecu also makes sure to not cut the engine off even if u are below 2k rpm on 3rd gear, it adapts .I love this sw ktm variant. Its a game changer
@@The1994arpanI've changed the sprocket, it still runs in high rpms but can do low speed runs in high gear, my milage also declined ofc 😂, apart from that still all stock with a reck for topbox. Love riding that machine.
@@prashantgautam4871 the sw version of 390 adv solves the stiff suspension issue, but stiff suspension is good for handling bike
RE Himalayan is an adventure touring bike. Question should be, how good is the bike in adventure touring category?
If u want a city bike, RE has Classic. Its non-capability in city cannot be its demerit.
When we look for a 'Do it all' bike in an adventure tourer then it is unfair to the bike and its makers.
Rightly said by Bulu bhai, 99% people dont do off roading. Hence, review videos should be made more relatable as to what the majority of riders do (and are capable of doing).
Like Bulu, even i am not a RE fan but I would appreciate the efforts and thought put by RE in Himalayan 450. Its indeed a value for money bike and is fairly capable of delivering what it promises.
Please remember we do not have tappets in RE Himalayan 450, like all other RE machines. This Sherpa engine is a completely new one. The valves are operated using chain and Cams.
All baba Ranchoddas here 🙇. We are talking about the ICE Himalayan not the Electric version. ICE without tappets. Understand that 'JOSH' is high for RE fanboys. Par itna bhi aage nahi nikle ki they can beat the Triple Alliance.
This has shims. Tappet adjustment interval is 30k kms. So service requirement is less.
@@sk_javed_yasin i own a hunter, and there is tappet noise
@@alakeshkakati984 not all engine noise is of tappets. But sometimes it may occur after hard riding or after the viscosity of engine oil goes low. Change engine oil after regular intervals.
@@alakeshkakati984lol hunter is a JOKE from RE 😂 now don’t tell me that u didn’t knew about it. It’s the most cheapest RE bike and useless bike sale it
Great comparison video. Both bikes are good. I feel it all comes down to ones height and strength to make a choice!
Clean and well rounded review..
If you have done it before, the old Himalayan tank could be removed in a few minutes. I expected this model to make it easier as the air filter is beneath the tank, as the problem of connectors and hoses getting loose and dirt ingress is always there. Another problem with removing the tank is that it is heavy as hell when it is full.
This is only real review of Himalayan 450. Because every other youtuber is reviewing Himalayan 450 like its the best adv bike in the world and doesn't have any flaws.Thanks Bulu Bhai for honest review
one thing everyone is refusing to acknowledge is RE is focusing its bikes for western market now... so this himalayn would be great if youre atleast 5'11 or 6 feet... the weight is not an issue for tall riders...
I agree but there is nothing as huge as an Indian market for an Indian manufacturer. So I guess first priority should be an Indian Customer.
Makes sense. No matter how much the RE fanboys troll online, the fact is no one buys one. RE is still one of the lowest selling bikes in India in terms of Sales. With the western market they have hit a sweet spot for time being.
RE seat is smaller than ADV
@@BuluBiker Indian market sure is huge .. but unfortunately RE I think doesn't take them seriously.. and solely focuses it's sales numbers in the west..... that's why it's really cheap in india.. and about 6k 7k in US ... so selling 1 bike there would be better than selling one in india i think
Very True. The Meteor650 suspension setup is not at all for Indian Roads
this is the comparison i have been waited for❤❤thanks a lot bhai
Eureka! The KTM 790's cruise control is now working on my KTM 390 Adventure. Proper OEM switch and coupler to coupler fitment. One more reason to stick with KTMs. Did the first test today. I am running a few more tests and will get back to you.
Where did you get the OEM switch and how much did it cost?
@@abhishekanand9522 I am still testing so can't attach a cost to it. Just using the switch won't work. It needs a module. The unit can cost as high as 70k-80k including customs unless you directly bring it from Canada or the US while flying back. Once I have thoroughly tested, I will check how best to deal with the customs issues. For now. Just rejoice that it works!
Basically Dibakar is useless in this video.. even Bulu bhai realised that😂
😂😂
Mere class main v ek deewakar tha vo bhe useless tha 😂😂😂😂
Hey Bulu,
One of the most in depth comparos between 2 motorbikes. I have not test ridden the Triumph 400x Scrambler, and am really curious house that will compete against the Himalayan 450. You forgot to mention the USD in the features while you were comparing both the bikes. And heat dissipation was also missed by you. Which bike will generate more heat in bumper - bumper traffic/in the city? Many thanks for taking the time to put all these points ot there for us. This only helps us being mode prepared before finalising on any motorbike
Ride safe & tc!!
Actually I see both the bikes heats up like anything in bumber to.bumber traffic. I felthe heat is kind of similar 😁
@@BuluBiker - Thnx for replying! Outs people like you we turn to for some frank & unbiased views. Let us know how the bike performs post the 1st service.
@@BuluBiker sir why we are not giving credit to dominor 400 that bikes is way much better then this both for touring purpose and in less money than both no one goes for offroading daily
@@storyofmusic926 Quality issues. Several Cases were reported for Engine Oil and Coolant Mixing, Engine Seizing, Ridiculous Vibration, Weak Alloy Wheels. As a Motorcycle, It is quite good but Weight now is over 190kgs. Overally Triumph Scrambler/Speed 400 and V-Strom 250 SX much better than Dominar
Most needed video for Indian bikers ✅thank u so much Bhai
Bulu bhai, thanks for the detailed review...looking forward for a long ride review of the Himalayan 450 both on highway & trail plus most imp point when will RE introduce spoked wheels with tubeless tyres!
It was a very well detailed comparison. 🎉
Add Fuelx lite to KTM 390 ADV and forget about competition.
I own 2021 ADV and recently added FuelX, it feels like a different bike with endless power and excellent low rpm torque.
Which one to add? Can u suggest one? any links?
Very comprehensive comparison. Ty bulu bhai😊
26:52 the reason which was given by the designers was to have that revving sound when you accelerated.. it was in bigbearcustoms video of Bosky sir
Another difference is the pride you feel when you see RE bikes in the U.S.
Regarding solo rides on Him 450 to Himalayan destinations, v must not forget that a lady from abroad has already done it as part of RE pre launch promotions...(Itchy Boots) And a total of 4500km of solo riding👍
Nice review! Finally, weight matters the most. Rest is all about the choice.
Zabardast video. Video of the year. 👍🏻 Hope ki bulu bhai aap Himalayan 450 ka reise moto tyre review banao taaki humko ek hardcore trail tyre pe upgrade karne mein decision making mein ease ho.
Bullu bhai, pillion comfort for long distance touring kaunsa sahi rahega. Most of the bikes don't focus on pillion comfort for long journeys. I've heard CB500X was one of them which gives superb pillion comfort but which bike in this price point is best for pillion comfort?
Bulu bhai very unbaised and informative review, which most of us want. Thanks 👍
Was waiting for this video.
perfect review... thanks bulu bhai...
Most awaited comparison.❤
How often do u change air filter? It is a benefit rather than a demerit. You missed the point that the outer part of the fuel tank is lower, to bring the center of gravity lower. Air filter is a light component, so it was kept under the fuel tank. This is normal like you will see on so many motorcycles - KTM 1190 ADV, Triumph Tiger 800, Honda Frica Twin and so on.
Yesterday I have lifted te fuel tank on service n it was the most heaviest psrt on the bike 😂 and Yes the air filter is not at the tip of the Motorcycle its slightly lower to the bottom of the fuel tank u can checkout my recent reel on Instagram
Thank you Bulu sir for this video all doubts clear
This is not fair comparison.....
You should compare....
New Himalayan 450 and KTM SW Rally Edition which has spoke wheels and adjustable suspension
Z900 ground clearance is very low. Around 130-40mm. 200mm ground clearance is more than adequate in any condition. I had done ladakh off roading in 2016 when there was barely a good road, on a classic 350 with 170-80mm ground clearance. Rarely it touched any thing below with me and my pillion weighing about 150-160kg together.
One of the best comparisons indeed... I have a request bulu bhaiya. Please ak pillion comfort ki upar bhi video banado. Q ki aj main test drive liye with my pillion,and her feedback is there vibrations is too much even more than old Himalayan. I need your view on this specific point please.
Issi video ka intezaar tha aab confusion door hojayega
im already using that same to same Yellowfin Anti-Shake Motorcycle Mobile Damper
I wished you guys talked about wind buffeting. Very important for touring. Otherwise very nice review.
Compare between Himalayan 450 vs Triumph scrambler 400
Triumph would feel better and compact.
IP rating of new instrument cluster?? Any water or dust resistance provided by RE
Wait for the new 390 adv, what do you think the weight will be?
Will it be safe for OIS camera completely?
I think you should have included the YESDI adventure and Benelli 502C, please i would like to see this comparison.
Along with the two which you have already compared that is KTM and RE Himalayan
Bulu Bhai a timeline to the video could have been nice. So that we could have skipped past some parts or a go to a particular part of the video. The whole content is great though.
Thanks, Bulu.. In which area are you located in Bangalore?
bulu bhai, bhot acha content and comparison h just, ek chez or add krne ko try kriye dono ki riding footage, or jo bhi pro ya con aapne face kia, wo bi address kre.
Bro kuch log keh rhe h Himalayan 450 m engine knocking sound aa rha h... Aapko kuchh aisa problem ho rha h ? Toh please mention kro next video m.. ! Cuz im goin to book this bike engine knocking sound is there or no t ?
Whenever I switch a bike, my whole point of purchasing a new bike is that it will pose challenges because that will help me learn new skills and make an upgrade, make me a better rider. So, the RE, despite its heavy weight should never be an issue for any rider who wants to make himself or herself better. What is the point of buying a new bike if you will continue to do the same old thing that you used to do on your old bike? I'm planning to switch from NS200 to Himalayan and I'm not at all scared. Yes, I'm not confident but over time, I will learn. I'm a hardcore KTM fan but I will still buy the Himalayan and not the ADV 390 because I've ridden the 390 a lot over the years and it never felt too difficult or big of jump when I compare it to NS200. And come on, history has taught us that riding has nothing to with height. If you are skilled, you know how to handle the bike. We have so many women riders who manage it, even racers who are of short height and without muscles but still do the impossible. Not to forget, so many nimble people ride higher CC heavy motorcycles on a daily basis. So, it's all about the will to learn new things and accept the challenge. A few crashes will happen and that is part and parcel of motorcycling -- it is a fact to be embraced and must be proceeded with caution but without too much fear.
Brother 🙏 thank you very much this is really very helpful for me ❤❤
I will upgrade from my ns160 to interceptor or himalyan
Excellent Bulu Bhai!!
i have my car for long highway trip, so i need a bike to enjoy my weekends doing offroad muds and going to waterfall in jungles nearby city and also for riding in a small hill station with narrow roads which requires easy to handle light weight, so i should definitely go for 390 adventure with adjustable suspension, thankyou bulu bhai, i was confused for many months ,this video cleared my confusions and helped me finalised my decision
Thank you for this video Bulu Bhai,
You helped me make up my mind.. I'm buying Shares! 😅😜
Main issue in Himalyan would surely be CONSET!!
Why not compare brand new bikes from both manufacturers. The himalyan you guys have right there is a fresh model compared to old ktm. The brake issue and other stuff pointed out seems to be the wear after used and depend on the owner’s maintenance.
I own a Thunder bird twin spark 2012 model. Night mare maintaining the bike inspite of very smooth riding. As the bike becomes old we have to get it serviced by local mechanics and RE workshops dont have components. I am worried about existing himlayan 411 owners as RE stops manufacturing components after sometime. RE are not reliable.
Sir, when will the Himalayan 450 with lower seat height available?
Bullu bhai please old Himalayan aur nee Himalayan ka riding triangle difference ka ek video banao
Dada mai bahot jada Confuse hu ki kaun si bike lu mai already meteor 350 chala rha hu jo ek thek thak bike hai higway me confidence nahi rhata braking me dum nahi hai bus 60 se 80 pe chalna hai to theek hai mai ek upgrade chata hu ab kaun si bike lu maine himalyan chala k dekha pasand nahi aai lots off vibrations feel hota hai kon set handle awaj karta hai braking me hight jada hai aur weight bhi jada hai. please suggest best bike jisme muje traffic me 40% rahna padta hai baki touring karta hu mahine me do tin long trip hoti rahti hai like 3/400 km tak ka..
Interceptor-650
Honda cb-350
Speed 400/scrambler
Harley x440
Ya to wait karu thoda aur ek adh sal kuch behtar option k liye
Please reply Dada I am waiting meri hight bhi aapke barbar hi hai
Bullu bhai.. please also add after sales comparison between KTM & RE
One improvement point for the videos in future Bulu bhai.
You have used words like isko usko to refer to bikes always, for people trying to listen only to audio becomes impossible to continue.
Its much better to use names.
Himalayn Prebook kiya he
But delivery ke liye showroom se koi update nhi mila he
Prebook ka process explanation dijiye
Bulu bhai, can you do the comparison with the ktm 390 Adv SW version??
There is no stalling issue in the 2023 ktm 390 adv
Bulu bhai please suggest kare ki ab kaun si bike lu meteor chala chala k bore ho gaya na to speed hai aur na handling itni acchi braking bhi OK ok hai ab mai upgrade karna chata hu please sugesst muje 2lakh me 5/7 hazar km chali hui ek interceptor-650 mil rahi aur ek highness 350 please batao kaun si lu please please reply karna aapka pakka wala fan ♥
himlayan ka eco mode me milage difference aara hai kya highway par please test
Best information ❤
May be Hooligan is the word that closely represents chhpari riders 😅.
Squid it is
Re classsic 500 efi se Re Himalaya 450 city ride me kitna heavy feel hoti he.? Mai monthly 8-10day 50-60 par day ki city ride karta hun. cl 500 2011 se heavy traffic me aaram se Bina kisi thakavat ke karta hun. Meri height 5-6" he.
Very nice video😊. Really confused. I need a do it all bike but my 90 %rides will be in city. Therefore I know cb350 would be good enough but still someone like Himalayan more. Don’t know which one to go for. Could you suggest?
Even CT100 is good enough. Test rode it yesterday and it does the job well. I am in my quest to search for a second two wheeler for short commutes. If you love the Himalayan just go for it. But if you just like it just the way I do despite being a KTM owner, do some ground research yourself. It sounds funny but I would suggest make a list of your requirements in a pocket diary. Test the bikes back to back.
@bulubiker भाई, please compare with Triumph scrambler 400 x also
Love from Tripura bulu vaiya❤
The equation will definitely change once KTM Adv 390 2025 is launched. Expecting for a version 2 video with RE Himalayan 450 vs KTM Adv 390 2025.
It will be 390 ADV 2025
That will cost 1.5x more.
Don't think that Adv 390 2025 will be more costlier than the current gen. It has the same engine has the new gen Duke and the price increase is not that much. The design is changed but 10-15k price hike compared to available Adv 390 variant.
bulu bhai wo stretched wire ka jo issue hai wo most probably model to model vary karta hai bcs I saw in other bikes it was not there even wire ache se covered bhi tha and thoda loose bhi tha....
Yee yes I too believe that maine servuce pe dikhaya hai
Very informative and detailed video, good job as always. Aur, Time stamp lagadiya karo Bulu bhai.
Yes yes will.do sir
@@BuluBiker thank you big brother 😊😊
Pls compare RE 450 n Triumph 400X
Thanks
Compare Himalayan 450 vs Adv Rally Edition
Your observation is microscopic bhai. My scram 411 also unsettles if i go through a gaddhha quickly. Wiggle karleta hai thodasa.
RE quality has improved but KTM has another level...as far as vibes its the nature of engine....i own standard adv 390 , it awesome machine....
Bulu bhai scram 411 me standard double stand nahi ata hay, mujhe as a accessories lagana para, ap ne bola spoke wheel may RE deta hay, but scram 411 may nahi diya
Bullu bhai can you suggest some tyres for meteor. My tyres skid on mud. I am planning a pan India ride in it?
I'm surprised how big of an issue the weight is it's 177kg vs 196kg and so 19kg and even in that 3kg is from petrol, so at same petrol level it's approx 15kg heavier, I'm really surprised 8% of weight difference would make that big of a change
Why don't bikers do some squats n dead lifts....strange 😂😂
Minus 1 more kg for the backplate for topbox
bass wo hi nai, weight distribution matters, 19 kg extra weight agar thora upar ki taraf ho that can feel double heavier. The gs310 feels even lighter than ktm390adv. The yezdi feels like tripple heavier 😂
Bulu bhai Dominer 400 se himalayan ka comparison kariye please main himalayan lene ka sochi raha hoon mere pass dominer 400 hain already
Off road version k liye chahiye tha please app ek comparison ka vedio bana lo
I am actually very confused now as in which one to go for !
Scrambler test ride
Please make video Himalayan 450 vs triumph scam 400
Bulu vai hai tho trust hai. If this man is giving you review means u can trust him no paid review
Is Bobo BM 18 H phone mount okay for iphone on a thunderbird?
Cool..... thank you
Bulu Bhai sab mind set ka game hai, ki Zanskar ride me bike problem karegi.
Sep 2022 me Meteor 350 se Kargil to Darcha via Padum ride ki thi "Alone" my age just 60
Bike performance se jyda mindset hona jaruri hai 🙏
Please ride new KTM 390 Adventure, it is better than its previous version. ECU got new maps it runs smoother than before , less frequent gear shift , TCS and other option remains in its previous state. you will definitely like it. with some upgrade it can really runs buttery smooth and runs in low rpm better.
Bulu Bhai one small suggestion agar next time aise 1 hr ka video banate tho bikes ka naam lena everytime kyunki itana bada video hum commute karne time dekhte confuse hojata hai kounsi bike ki baat hora hai karke pls if possible karna next time just a suggestion kyun commute karte karte sunnte tho commute bhi aacha jaayega aaur video bhi dekhliya jaisa hoga
Thank you
RE did a great job tbh, with the tubeless tyres in gen2 himalayan would be a great option.
I really want other competitors to come in too! TVS ke paas option tha ek adventure nikalne ka, 310gs type ka kuch... with the new r3 and mt03, yamaha can bring in Tenere300, or even the tenere15 😂 no one talks about the suzuki 250 gstorm. Honda is also mission out! honda is not even serious about india. that 200x is a comedy. Yezdi should stop selling their adventure, absolute worst. Hero is also very late in the market.
y showing hate to Yezdi bro... they have already rectified their mistakes in the 2023 version of their bikes. Just because the initial impression is not good for a bike doesn't mean its an uncapable bike. Remember what happened to RE in its initial days, when they launched their initial products.
I absolutely love their other products. Just the adventure was bad. I hope yezdi comes up with a good product in near future. and I will soon test ride the adventure, lets see.@@ajaikrishnajm9146
Sir one more review.. Himmy vs 400x
Adv 390 all time love .i recently covered 900 km in just 15 hours .from manglore to mumbai
तारीफ तो रॉयल एनफिल्ड की कर रहे हो... लेकिन व्हिव्यूवर के दिमाग मे तो एडवेंचरही फिट हो गया l
nice friendly informative video 👍
Bulu bhai mere pass ek ninja 1000 hai, interceptor hai aur benelli 302 hai. My dad rides them all more than I do, and we are looking for something new.
Abhi tak test ride nahi liya hai par I have booked the himalayan 450, will sell off the interceptor and benelli.
Want something that will take me off the road. Price is no object but need that ease of service and overall no hassle kind of bike. Aapke videos dekhkar lag toh raha hai ki mast hi hogi himalayan par apke videos aise hi mast hote hai ki app takle ko kangi lene bologe toh bhi le lega 😂
Is this a good upgrade over the interceptor 650? Or should I be considering any other bike.
Accha another thing is ive just upgraded the interceptors woth alloy wheels, vredestien radials, and the RE LED headlamp unit. Should I even sell my interceptor, its been really great to my dad. The RE service network is great and so far they have been very good as in I live right next to a service center and in the beginning I took it there for any and all small problems and they really tried their best to take care of them.
I've kinda been having the breakup goggles with the interceptor since its been such a dog overall and its hard to say goodbye. I really dont want to have buyers remorse after I get this please help.
How can u compare a trouble bike like RE with KTM ?? 😅
and again 20:38 anything less that 50 hp doesn't need TTS, like not at all. Even the ZX25R doesnt need TTS but just to make it fully spec kawa gave it
Can we not bring down the powerband from 2500rpm to 0 rpm by changing the sprocket size? Any aftereffects, if done so?
0 rpm means engine is not moving at all!! How will you generate power?! 😂
City me chalane keliye aur v kaafi options hai..
I dont know if i should buy the ktm now or wait for the 2025 version
Bulu Bhai humne suna ki new Himalayan tubeless hai