Sondors Fold XS E-Bike Review
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
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Great Review! Sondors have been a game changer for me, I'm 60 and a bit overweight. I have ridden my Original over 15000 miles in the last 5 years, Lost over 50 Lbs (I do not pedal much although since getting my newer Sondors with 7 speeds I do now pedal a lot more) The bike rides and holds a charge as good today as the day I got it. I have explored trails and areas I thought I was done exploring, I have made lots of new friends (Sondors are a real conversation starter) I am much healthier and happier than I was 5 years ago and my life has improved by leaps and bounds. So Thank You! Sondors and CONGRATS on your continued success!
Ok, this is an excellent review, thanks
Hi great to hear about your successful experience happy its improved your life too, people will try bring you down its fairly easy to get past them.
Do you have the fat tyre bike, what speed maximum can you achieve on throttle? Im thinking of getting one
There from the start and beyond!🚴♂️🏋️♂️🖖✌
Really well done zac, this felt more like a propper revieuw opposed to a commercial.
Fabulous review! You answered all the questions I had that other reviewers left out, I appreciate that. Twenty mph should be more than enough speed for most of my needs, but if I need some extra zip and speed, I hope the speed ceiling is adjustable? I love the rack and fenders, accessorizing this bike for my individual needs is a plus also, I had basically given up my hopes of purchasing a foldable Ebike, but now I’m back in the market thanks to your review, thanks again!
This is better than a motorbike...
Love the design and everything!
Good review!
Love the new music and as always, the EV info😃
I just got my first. Number 2+3 are in motion for other family. They are so amazing and fun. Definitely recommend
Thanks for the great review! I'm currently comparing this beast and the MATE X which costs in Europe about 600 more bucks, and this was great to watch and brought me a lot of new info!
btw just to add some info into the key on the battery... you might not understand it naturally and that might be because you were brought up in a safer environment... Where I'm from, having a key to lock one of the most expensive parts of the bike and prevent it from being stolen, is always a great feature! Batteries cost between 150 and 300 euros and they can disappear quite quickly in some south European countries where salaries are much lower than the northern ones or even the States or Canada... if you didn't know, Now You Know. 😂!
Hi Joao ! I'm currently in the exact same position you were before. I'm really hesitating between the Sonders XS and the Mate X (clone of the Rattan if I'm not mistaking). My concern is about the service cse I heard A LOT of awful experiences with these two last bike brands. How long did you have to wait before getting the bike. Was it 100% ok and in the event something happens can you get spare fast enough? I know lots of questions, and these are only the main ones... lol Thx if you can give any input about this. Have a great one !
I must say, this video helped me more than any other to close in on a decision to buy a bike. Thanks
Very good informative review!
Thanks for sharing.
This looks like a GOOD choice.
I'm also considering the Lectric XP folding fat tire ebike at $888
Outstanding and very helpful review. What considerations would make you favor the 750 watt versus the 500 watt motor? Or, put another way, when is the former essential, and when would the latter suffice? Any advice would be appreciated.
Great review, love this bike!
That things is pretty sweet! The fold feature would definitely be handy if traveling in an RV or pickup truck and still wanting to go out on some trails or explore the town.
I have a Biria that I purchased new from a local shop. It has the key lock in battery and the rubber plug also. I can tell you around here they are a godsend. I live in a boardwalk district which is where I do most of my riding. Because it's crazy crowded here at restaurants and shops during the summer, sometimes you have to fold it down to park it if you stop at an outdoor restaurant. The key lock in keeps you from having the battery stolen while it's parked in the folded state. Underneath my rubber plug (mine doesn't fully separate from the frame, it's more like a "cover") I have a charger port, power switch and a USB outlet. All of my lights are USB chargeable and obviously my phone is. I ran my battery down to one bar and was still able to charge my A51 Samsung from 10 to 100 percent with the bike battery on a single bar. It doesn't even put a dent in it. A USB port on your battery is a godsend.
We start carrying the 500w version in 2 weeks at our shop. Great customer service friendly company!
Great Video, I live near Savannah and unfortunately was busy when you were here otherwise it would have been cool to help out and meet you guys. Still cool to see familiar sights. One question, If you go with the 500w motor does that increase the range?
Can't wait to get mine at the end of July!
Great review. Thanks for sharing!
Excellent review👍
I’m excited to get mine soon! 😱😱😱
Interesting fender to fork mount gives me the solution for when I add a suspension fork to my Lectric XP if I want to use the front fender.
Great review- thanks
WHOA!!!;) This guy's quite an actor!
Can ebikes like these be ridden in the snow and very cold temperatures? Also can road salt damage the electric components?
I'll be getting mine at the end of the month and I can't wait.
@Victor Vazquez you ordered the fold Xs?? I like the price for the regular fold X but if you're gonna get one, do it big right?
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@@2NDFLB-CLERK Great! After 2200 mill on it things to get. Armor-Dilloz Militarty Grade Tire Sealant for flats (tires are thin), New crank and pedals. New tires that are stronger and can deal with flats better and the wear from the street and weather. BRAKES!! Wore through my brakes. But it gets me back and forth from work and home on one charge which is a 15 mile round trip. Winter time battery is cut down big time. Going to see if I can get a battery run back pad to wrap around the battery part of the bike to keep it warm so it won't drop power so much. But it's worth getting.
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For how much these things cost, it seems like there shouldn't be that many issues with it, though ...
Seems to be like that for all of these electric bikes...
I'm still looking for the right one for me.
I want to use one for Long rides [sometimes]. To get in and out of the city- which is 40 miles away from me...
So finding the best electric bike for this feels pretty tricky these past few days,, but I obviously can't just be lazy about this kinda money I'm spending thou...
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The newest batch will only be able to be programed at 25mph same as the Fold X, however I did had a 25 amp controller and LCD 3 display and can take the 750 off the line and it top speed now it hits 26 miles an hour. Stock at read 25.3, however I was looking for low end torque not top speed obviously you have to do other things for that I work at a bike shop and build custom e-bikes so when we get these 750s in and I program them to top speed or the old ones for programmable to 30 which puts it at 28 mph the new ones are programmed at 25 mph which puts it at well 25 mph. Also Dragon fly has covers that snap in place. But has a door so you will not ever loose the cap.
This a very sweet fat bike for sure no question, I purchased 2 lectric Xp bike no regret on that but I was just to taste the water on electric ⚡️ bike I have to say I’m hook on the mobility Riding and joyful times When I do, on my next purchase to upgrade I will consider this Sonos for sure, thank you.
How important is the 750 watt motor versus the 500 watt motor for $700 less? I would use this bike for joy riding and errands around town, and some local trails. No serious mountain biking.
I haven’t quite put things through the ringer, but the 500 W motor seems to work great for me :-)…. Unless you’re virtually climbing a mountain you will probably be A-OK with the 500 W motor:)…
Will it work in a camry trunk? Just curious, thanks
Can you remove the battery (take an extra replacement with you to extend range?)
Well done. Accurate and to the point
Need this for my vlogging adventures throughout Florida...it can fold and fit in the bed of my new Hyundai Santa Cruz and take me all over the state.
Can push the bike when folded?
Thanks for sharing facts about this great machine.
so when it's folded, it's not able to be pulled? they should some how design it to be able to be tilted up and pulled /rolled by hand with a handle in the folded position.
Thank you for the info! What color would you recommend ? I'm getting one!
graphite
My battery went dead in 2 months . did i over charge it? Whats the problem?
perfect for what we needed it for
There are many people that are waiting for the "car with 3 wheels" from sondors. It would be great If you could get more information about that. It seems so that the bikes from sondors work well. But the car is already yet years delayed and the price goes higher and higher.
I think of would be a great if you could get answer for that. And i think the video should have many views..
Nice.hello Sir. I got the Grahpy XS. I try to install the fender,and Rack. With the different screw size no manuals or instructions when I open the package.. If you can help post the how to install the fender,Rack. if you can just go over record after installation screw located. Thank you much.
I’m 6’6” would I be able to ride this comfortably?
Will it fit in the trunk of a Honda accord
2:20 The battery has a key lock so if you have the bike chained up in public no one can fold the bike and steal the battery
How does this compare with the RadMini?
I like that you are not bent over while riding it. I want them to make a three wheel etrike.
Would that bike fit in a trunk of a corolla or at least the back seat?
Is the battery proprietary? How easy to roll the folded bike it up stairs? Anybody try to board a bus or metro with it? Anybody have issues with cops on sidewalks or bike lane? How does it do on beach sand?
Does it fit in a frunk?
How can i get one to uk also the graphite is sold out
Bikes and scooters are big. Have you tried electric unicycles?
Known brands: Inmotion, KingSong, Gotway.
I switched from scooter (Xiaomi m365) to unicycle (Inmotion V8) one year ago and it's amazing.
This bike is waterproof?
Great bike where do they sell them
How about efforts for changing the punctured tyre ? Nice review btw.
I was going to ask the same question..fixing a flat has to be a hell of a chore on these bikes with the hub motor attached
Put Slime (or comparable product) in the tires and punctures are drastically reduced. I know from experience.
Just because nobody has asked this, ever; has any of these folding bikes from any brand ever come folded (unlocked) while riding?
How is this bike on hills? I don't see anyone talking about this.
What about a headlite/taillite?
It looks like a great machine.
The bad part about the Fold is throttle lever. It’s fragile and easily breaks! I currently own a Fold X model and it broke while trying to carry it out of my trunk last weekend.
Thx for the warning ... good to know.
How is the bike during rainy days or dirt?
I honestly wish they made a version with no display. Since there is no speed limit on bikes , i dont understand the point. As someone who intends to ride in the snow , i would appreciate not having a color lcd thats just going to freeze anyways.
Nice bike, one video I would like to see, not related to this bike: Rivian or Cybertrack- off roading :)
That things got a cool shape.
It took you an hour! to install the rack and fenders?
Sounds about right for folks who are not regular bike mechanics. It is a lot of little screws to tighten by hand, and they were not in a hurry...
yes--me too to do correct and the little screws are little and hard to get to place they belong--if you can do it faster then u r awesome
it s robbery security :). where are the red and white light ?
impossible to get to bolt areas.
What happens if you pay the flex pay.
How does it do on hills?
These bikes look Good, but I wonder how Durable they are? Sounds too good to be true!
Combination of lifestraw and tds tester. Water carry idea.
Spare battery cost?
So is there a big difference between the Fold X and XS?
I was wondering the same thing. I decided just to get the fold X
probably the hub motor.
Sodors also makes a 3 wheel car!
Is this e/bike can go 120 km
Is 750w legal in Alberta, Canada?
But will it fit in the trunk of a Tesla Model 3?
Available in UK?
Thanks for the review. I've been thinking about ordering one of these bikes.
About the locking battery: the first time you get your $400 battery stolen you'll understand why it's a good idea to lock the battery. You may not have sub-humans existing in your area, but around here they're everywhere.
based.
How much do you lose by choosing the 500 watt motor over the 750 watt?
Umm 250 watt.... Go back to school
@@kingdropper2 lmao!
I've just purchased a fiildo M1 pro & i love it. But this bike look's better..
What's the tire size?
Thanks!
I see batteries are not sent to Europe. if we want another battery or it breaks what happens?you shipped bikes in Europe so it means you must find a way to shipped all spare parts in Europe including battery.
How much is the price?
Hopefully you can review the Sondors Madmods bike when it comes out.
Those only have the same 750W motor as this bike. I wouldn't get an e-dirt bike like that unless its packing at least 3000 watts, and they are coming. I have a Fold XS on order and will upgrade once the more powerful bikes become available. Even the Super73 RX can barely climb hills.
Sondors E bike how much? how can I buy your product.. I'm very interested Sondors e bike..
My skate board is 1800 so this bike has a really good price!
you got jipped badly ha
@@dertythegrower Well, depends on the skateboard....
Perfect example of an e-bike that has two versions in Europe. A 250W motor version with a max pedal assist speed of 25 km/h for the "bike" version, and a 750W motor for the "moped" version (but this version will require registration and insurance and won't be able to drive on bike Lanes in France).
Add a 250W sticker on it,..and youre set.
freaking cucked Europe.. America #1
I liked the look of the Sondors Thin.
wait til you hit your knees on the thick frame.
@S On their website
ships to europe??
Feel like the Lectric XP might be a better deal for a $1000. No suspension fork and basic led but I can live with that. I'm kinda new to the e bike game so not sure who copied who both bikes are very similar.
gray scale screen is better in sunlight anyway. Lectric is the best overall when you consider price. You can sometimes buy 2 for the price of ONE similar bike. No bright orange though.
@@vintagemxer9165 lectric is a solid bike but the reason this is so much more is the 750 watt motor, larger battery, higher amp controller, suspension fork, suspend seat post and hydrologic disk brakes.
Who would want a cheap knock off.. Get a Sondors and you wont regret it.
How can i buy this kind of bike?
For the same price, you can get the Rad Runner Plus.
sondors is better
@@tannerjack9520 HI, what makes you say that ? I'm thinking of buying one and don't know which of the two to buy.
@@spikeybaby1735 i ended up buying an electric mountain bike since i wanted to ride harder trails but might get one for the wife!
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Edi wow .
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I was wondering, I saw the review of the SONDORS folding XS. It seem real nice and sturdy. I was also looking at the AVENTON Sinch e bike, sort if similar in price and features but the SONDORS says it has 750W motor? But the Aventon claims to have 750W also but that is peak power. I was hoping SONDORS was 750w normal power because I’m a bigger guy? Thanks!
Huge negative - Aventon no throttle only from dead stop. That alone makes it a deal-breaker.
I wish there wasnt a screen. I plan to ride in winter, and im worried about an lcd screen. Itd be nice if you could just unplug the screen and ride it that way
you can
After you fold it can you push/walk it?
No. The fold was designed so you won't need a heavy duty car rack to transport it or to save space if you don't have a garage to keep it in. It's too heavy and bulky to move it around folded. Not for public transportation use.
Currant price $2699.00 Up $1000.00 since filming.
So glad I got it before the price went up
sondors is actually one of the most known ebike co. in the world still . they started on a fund-me site and still like that. are you Really going to Fold your bike ? statistics say most ppl seldom if ever do fold. The folding frame adds a good 10 plus lbs to your bike . Not to mention making the cockpit limiting and hard to handle for many . so many rigs out here ,same price or , better specs, better cust service, better build, higher speed ..
I thought I would reply to your post because I own 2 of these and can speak directly to all of your concerns. First, yes I am going to fold it. We live full time in an RV and folding it is what we needed. If you don't need to fold it, there are plenty of other choices, this review happens to be about a folding one. Second, it is heavy, but so are all Ebikes, even the ones that don't fold yet are very popular, think Super 73, Rad bikes, Juiced, etc., which are all 60 plus pounds. Third, there is plenty of adjustment in the bike to not make the cockpit limiting at all. I'm 5' 10" and my wife is 5' 3" and both of us fit easily with room to expand in both directions for smaller or larger individuals. Fourth, If you do a little research you will see that the bikes that match these specs are all very similarly priced. If you drop to a 500-watt motor with no front suspension, Sondors has one and Lectric has one for $900 - $1000 but most are close to the price of this Sondors model. I found their customer service to be excellent. I ordered the non-suspension 500-watt version and the front suspension forks separate which turned out to not be very good, Sondors refunded my money for the forks immediately. Better built? Not that I have seen. Most of the bikes in this class use identical parts so it comes down to the frame construction and it is as solid and well made as any I have seen and test road, which was a lot of them before I committed to my purchasing the Sondors. Last, of course there are models that are faster but they are not a class 2 bicycle which by law is capped at 20 mph. Lectric bikes do have a code you can put in to increase their speed, but then if you're using it in the city and on sidewalks you would be breaking the law. I don't really care if you do that and are careful, I'm just pointing it out. I am happy with the decision to purchase the bike and I think if you're in the market for one of these style bikes, you would be too.
@@Not2Far2Go i can't diss someones true ebike enjoyable experience . been testing and owning em since early 2000s myself with my 1st super heavy whaletail lead-acid currie electroDrive ,enjoying it. 💪🏾❤
I test road before I bought mine. I have no interest in folding it. Its just a very fun bike to ride. Not sure what you mean about the cockpit being limiting and hard to handle. I am 6'2' and it is just fine. What was the issue when you road one?
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Is this still Sondor
Savannah, GA. I bet the bike ate up those cobblestones on River street!
Holy shit! How much?
Can you change the max speed
no - 20 vs 28 Lectric XP
@@vintagemxer9165 yes you can max speed 25mph
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Is that max speed 25 using only the throttle? Or do you gotta pedal, too ?
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HEY ZACK AND JESSE! it would be awesome if you could make a mini series, kinda like Elon The Disruptor.
Except it would be about renuable energy, why it's better environmentally, economically, and practically. And compare it to coal, nuclear, and gas power plants.
Would be interesting should they be honest about nuclear, and not go with the fossil lobby propaganda. Perhaps looking at nuclear optimally used for base load, but recognizing that nuclear dont like being constantly throtled up and down, and how nuclear too would benefit from demand smoothing provided by powerwalls, and how solar+wind+ nuclear could quickly get enough battery support to go fully CO2 neutral for the grid and then transport sector. Even super container ships that CO2 pollute a lot could go nuclear like carriers and save money and the enviroment.
@@clmdcc nuclear is expensive though. And it isn't as safe as renewable energy, just look at Chernobyl or Fukishima. And what about nuclear waste?
@@clmdcc Nuclear is very efficient.
@@zolotech_3771 Hi Zolotech, Nuclear waste can be deposited safely in a old mine, the data from Gabon(where a natural nuclear reactor formed for 2 billion years ago) showed that nuclear waste is quite stable, and despite being in a underground river had not been dispersed and thus had not contaminated a large area.
And it would have been great had chernobyl been designed to not explode like most nuclear power plants.
@@clmdcc Excellent point Andreas Fonss, I agree with everything you said. And cannot stand by to see how so many "Green Commentators" (Arm Chair Experts) are ignoring the big "N' in the Room!
If you want to reduce global emissions, then consider Nuclear?
No one is even mentioning it?
I stick to my Cannondale bike from 1997.
It is only 22 lbs and I can easily fit into my station wagon.
It's been going strong for 23 years now without ever needing to replace the battery.
Why not just walk and save the 22lbs for that matter?