I'm shocked at how powerful this is! - Lenovo Yoga Slim 7i Pro X
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:14 Unboxing
0:37 Ports and exterior impressions
1:20 Keyboard impression
1:41 Comparing Global and North American models
3:25 Impressive specs
4:33 Startup test
4:41 Benchmark - Thermal temps
6:19 Benchmark - Cinebench
7:04 Gaming and screen impressions
8:05 Audio test - Crab Rave
8:41 Webcam impressions
9:43 Opening it up and repairability impressions
11:28 Final impressions
12:16 Outro 
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The standby issue has been around since Windows XP - back when I was a corporate tech guy we had one guy melt the back of an old school Latitude because of it. Typically this happens when you tell the system to go into standby and then close the lid before it finishes going into standby.
Who uses windows nowadays seriously
@@pranze3484 like 99% of the world only
@@pranze3484 Like around 90% of the desktop & laptop market lol
Exactly.
Yeah well enjoy being the product of data collection
Nothing’s gonna tear Alex from his XPS 15, huh.
Maybe after he talked to dell support a couple of times, it will change his mind, haha
Something about cold,dead hands
He had become a fanboy at this time lol
I thought he was into Surface Laptops
Maybe a more powerful surface laptop
Thank you for mentioning the Modern Standby issues. I bought an XPS 17 last year and it suffered from overheating while "sleeping," freaked me out at first since I'd just spent like $2k on the machine and was worried I had a hardware issue. Turns out Windows' Modern Standby feature is complete trash, like you mentioned. Following the suggestions of what I read online, I just switched to Hibernate mode and it's been smooth sailing ever since. It is kind of a half-assed "fix" though, so I hope Microsoft fixes it since it's such a widespread issue.
I have a desktop PC from 2016 and can't get it to stay of after i put it in sleep, I have hybernate on which takes some time to finish with 32GB of memory but I'm always cutting the power now after the hybernate because otherwise it wil randomly tun on (sometimes it even tries to boot again just after the lights turn of). I always thought it was a problem with my motherboard (I already turned all the powerup options of, from USB, keyboard mouse and Network in the BIOS). But this kind of news makes me suspect windows still does something with the RTC power up options.
Not just the standby. Sometimes, if you close the lid before the laptop shuts down completely then the system will be stuck at the shutdown screen till you open the lid next time!
my hp omen 15 when i shut the lid still renders the game i have open i assume because the fans stay on and it's like a space heater when left either on a desk or in a bag.
On my Laptop I just removed Windows and Installed Linux. I use wine for when I need windows apps and if it's not supported on wine I just run it on a windows 7 VM (I don't even notice any performance issues on a ryzen 5 2500U)
My Lenovo also facing same issue, now just use hibernate…..
I think the difference between Canada and EU specced Yoga laptops comes mainly because of customers demand. In the EU, people buy Yoga for thin and light office machine. The best selling spec here is the i7 with no Nvidia GPU, which covers portability and office hours per battery life. Nobody really looks at the Yoga series as an entertainment tool, but rather as a trusty business tool.
I miss more Lenovo reviews, especially Thinkpad ones. Might I recommend reviewing Thinkpad X1 Extreme? I think your writers will love the keyboard.
As long as Alex is not the one reviewing it, I remember one of the most if not the most disliked videos on this channel is the one where Alex reviews a Thinkpad and he begged Lenovo to remove the iconic trackpoint, which considering both the fact that the ideapad lineup exists and the fact that a trackpad doesn't work with gloves on. If you remove the trackpoint from the ThinkPad, it is no longer a ThinkPad
The issue is that most people can't afford that one
I was part of the validation of power and performance for the Yoga. Glad to see it finally out with the new SOC.
What i love most about this laptop is how much cheaper you can get it just a year later. And its still awesome
Ya I just ordered the AMD version for $800.
Was debating long and hard which gaming laptop to get, but any gaming laptop I saw that had a high quality screen and build quality was also going to be double the price. Granted, better internals too. But I'm mainly using mine for productivity, with a little Skyrim on the side.
@@ElMartilloBlanco same here. Alienware, no matter what you think of them, makes very durable laptops. That's been my reasoning for sticking with them
Alex: "You don't need to sponsor it, just send us laptops"
Linus: "ALEX WE JUST SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WE'RE BROKE WHAT ARE YOU DOING?"
That’s a damn fine laptop! I’ve loved my Legion 5 from 2020, Lenovo is a fantastic price-performance option for mobile computing. That screen is beautiful. Awesome first look as usual, Alex.
If I could say one thing about the audio in this episode, however. Alex sounded a bit like he was in a box, like he and the mic were facing a plastic wall. That’s it. I did like the point of showcasing how the webcam reacts in different light scenarios. With how work-from-home is still very much a reality for many, I think webcam or screen specs and demonstrations in different physical environments outside of the studio lights should be highlighted more. Just some critique, my opinions mean squat but I thought I’d point it out
Lenovo has been killing it with their laptops IMO since I think 2000ish. I'm on a Lenovo Legion 5 and love it.
Im using the Legion Slim 7 and it's honestly been an awesome experience
Interesting note about this chassis: it's also available with an AMD Ryzen R7 7735HS CPU but has different names in NA and EU (Lenovo Slim Pro 7 vs Yoga Pro 7 14). Notebookcheck reviewed it and attested the AMD version really good battery life (13 hrs web surfing test), maybe even better than the Intel model. It's also available with the 120 Hz screen and the 3050, although only max 16 GB RAM (cause we can't have AMD have the same chances).
It's kinda obscure and hard to find, but searching for '14ARP G8' will lead you to it. It's around 1,479€ in Germany, with the R7, a 3050, 16 GB of RAM and 512 GB SSD.
A very nice device and the only real AMD rival of things like the XPS 15 while being much cheaper.
I have a Yoga Slim 7i for about 2 years now and I just gave up on the standby thing and put it to hibernate at closing the lid, the SSD is good enough for it to wake up from hibernate really quickly anyway.
Something I think you guys should look at for the repairability segment is the keyboard. My last Lenovo machine used plastic rivets to hold the kb in, awful for repairability. I hope they stopped doing that. I loved the keyboard but one liquid spill and a diy keyboard replacement later and it was just mushy as the entire board gets pushed downward by one key press.
I bought the 7i with 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-11300H, 2k glossy display, in March for around 650. So far the best laptop I have ever had, it is smooth, fast, and lightweight, I even use it for my graphic design activity. It's a very good laptop for the price, and I'm sure those ones will be even better.
I think i5 will be better for thermal and battery tho. Still excellent laptop regardless...
gotta love how I'm going to college in the fall and both the new run of G15s and this laptop won't be released until I already needed them
non sponsored video: these speakers sound like crap and this webcam sucks >:(
sponsored video: speakers are fine if you compare to old laptops and the camera struggles because of our lighting :3
i'm not being mean, i just find it funny though, love your work guys!
Yeah it's so obvious when they are doing. This channel is going the wrong way. Why by a lab with testing equipment when all you are going to do is biased reviews paid for by the manufacturer.
Complainers will complain. I personally trust Linus Media to give a honest opinion.
How should you decide between Intel and AMD? Is it better to have thunderbolt??
My dad still uses his decade old ThinkPad. Old i5 served me well in some light gaming then. Honestly, still a decent feeling device and if he got an SDD and bumped up the ram from 8GB to 16GB, it would have still have a couple years of a decent experience left in her. Recently just upgraded a Dell workstation to replace my mom's Windows 7 Lenovo desktop. Specs were the only thing holding it down, clean boot and a Linux install makes them still very usable machines.
Agreed, stay away from Windoze and don't expect it to behave as fast or at the very modern tasks as the big monster modern CPU and even the Core2Duo's have lots of life left in them and 8Gb is enough even for pretty large browsing sessions... My laptops are a similarly old to yours i series and a core2duo - actually like the core2duo a little better despite being the 'same' machine - it runs a little cooler to the touch (they are passively cooled rugged suckers).
Honestly, I think the average person wouldn't even notice the fact that they're using Linux and the lighter distros just breath an extra few years into older devices.
Wow man get your dad an SSD, life is short, he aint got that time to waste, tf are you doing installing linux on workstations (nice) but not force feeding your dad an ssd and 16GB of ram lol
@@jablue4329 what? The average person would absolutely notice they were using linux and would hate it.
@@ignitionnight "ah yes, my opening of chrome took 2 seconds less. I hate this."
Sure, buddy.
I will specify the average person that does little if anything outside a browser.
I just got this laptop except with a 6900hs instead of the i7 and it is amazing, especially for $1200 on sale. The minuscule battery usage of the amd chip is crazy, i get through a full day with 60% left.
Is your version with the AMD CPU silent in office work and when watching RUclips videos?
My Intel version is often kicking in the fan for about 1 minute which is annoying … and also when booting windows the fans run on high speed for 2 minutes for no reason
Is this the one from the RUclips commercial "We are fascinating - but we also do this" *spills coffee* 😅
@LMG When providing specs on laptops you really should include what they are power limited to (i.e. 45W, 80W, 130W, etc.).
This makes a huge difference in thermals and performance... there is no point in spending more on a high end laptop GPU if it is power limited to 80W, when it could go to 150W+... literally paying for nothing at that point.
I know the laptop in this video has a lower-end GPU but the 3080Ti in the Razer Blade 14 vs Lenovo Legion series is a good example of why I commented/recommended this.
It's a sponsored ad, not a review.
good point, thx for this
that's the exact reason why better gpu in laptops doesn't really matter if it has bigger power limit and better cooling as you said
Agreed. Since laptop manufacturers can power limit the CPU and GPU - which is separate from _thermal_ limits due to the cooling solution - the actual performance might not match what you paid for. Laptop makers can be pretty deceptive this way, with marketing and configuration upselling components the machine isn't properly designed to handle. Thin-and-light laptops are the worst in this regard, naturally being less able to supply gigawatts of power and dissipate nuclear-level heat output of top-of-the-line components.
@@LizardVideoDude A good example for this is the fact that some laptops have 3050 in them, but they can cost from 700$ to even 1300$, and it's usually not because manufacturers overpay for their laptops, it's better quality of the components, better heat dissipation, higher power limits so better performance
I remember being in college 5+ years ago and having the same issue. I can't believe it's still there.
3:50 I love the symbols that you guys use for specs but having a SATA M.2 is slightly confusing. Might just be worth specifying with text what the interface is
Thanks for the quick look! Any chance you'll have the Lenovo Yoga 7i (2022) 14" 2-in-1 convertible?
I hoped that you would talk about the performance in combination with the gpu. didn't really understand, if valheim ran on the integrated graphics or the rtx 3050. is the "bad" performance of the game to be expected with a mobile rtx 3050? did you compare temperatures between the two models? how much more power does the gpu need? and so on ... the laptop is great, but I'm kinda disappointed with the video content. doesn't really add anything new to the spec sheet on lenovos site
You should ask Lenovo about getting your hands on a ThinkBook Plus Gen 3 when you can. It looks like the best implementation of dual screens in my opinion. For example, watching a video and handwriting notes with the pen sounds like a dream for students.
Love Alex's laptop reviews :D
is lenovo ever going to comment on availability for this machine? They said June 2022 which has since passed. Set a release date already
it's amazing that such beastly cpu and GPU are packed in such slim case, intel and amd has done their job now it's upto companies to design Innovative thermal and heat dissipation system on laptops that's where the real limitations is.
The quality looks solid!!
Felt like Alex was making far too many excuses for the product all through that unboxing/first look... Then the conclusion "can't give it a thumbs up or down as it's a sponsored video"... I mean, if it was actually any good, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't mind you giving it the thumbs up.
This is the problem with doing sponsored videos, you can't be critical of crap if they're paying you.
I mean it's just a first look, what is he supposed to do? No benchmarks, no intense use over several days/weeks, no need to do any thumbs up or down.
@@drchtct be honest and not make excuses for crap hardware in exchange for money.
@@lufferov which hardware in this video is crap?
@@drchtct well, the laptop or would seem.
@@lufferov what about the laptop hardware is supposed to be bad?
Would opting for the i5-12500H option instead of i7 be a good bet from a battery life standpoint ?
Also integrated Xe graphics will more than suffice for my usage...
Yes
Normal review: « let’s compare the speaker to the dell! Oh wow it sounds really bad in comparison »
Sponsored « hey it sounds just as good as top tier laptops from a few years ago :) »
the webcam too lol. It was dogshit. Not to mention that horrible thermal throttling over *"screen recording"*
3.19 lbs is the starting weight with integrated graphics. The dedicated graphics models are almost 3.45 lbs.
I don't know which European version you had but the main difference here is that the Yoga Slim 7i Pro X is only available (for now, at least) with an AMD processor (Ryzen 5 6600HS/7 6800HS /9 6900HS ) and it has 3 screen options, including a touchscreen one.
The top spec one with Ryzen 9 6900HS, RTX 3050, 1TB storage and 32GB RAM is 2400 €. At the moment in France they have some sort of coupon so you can get this for 1866.75 €
Watching Alex review a laptop, while having a fever , is exactly what I needed right now.
Get well soon bro!
@@Stillxxen thanks mate
when you say use thunderbolt 4 for display... is it with a cable that has TB4 on one end, and display port (or hdmi2.1) on the other? or by using a TB4 dock that then offers hdmi 2.1 and/or display port connectors ?
Was the "Yoga" branding removed from this model? I was very excited to see these specs included in a 2-in-1 until I found out the hinge was only 180°.
Can we expect the and version to perform around just as good?
I had an older version of the yoga (2 or 3 years old) but the battery life was so bad (30-40 on a full charge) that is unusable without it being plugged in all time. It’s also quite slow
I hope we can see more of the lenovo laptops such as thinkpad on this channel
Can you guys also start looking into the BIOS option available for laptops. Lenovo and a few other brands have annoyingly few options available in the BIOS, basically only time and boot settings.
That send off was the most Canadian thing I've heard in a good while bud ❤️
when is this available in the US? I've been waiting months for this thing to release.
Now, can you ppl showcase the Yoga 7i Gen 7 and Yoga 9i Gen 7 perhaps? I would like to see how you people rate them, especially the 7i
I have bought intel one….the screen is continuously flickering…i have followed every steps that online recommends..can u kindly help me by info, does this happpen with Lenovo often?any permanent solution? The screen dimension does not set with 3072 one which is recommended
I would buy this laptop mainly for heavy excel, acrobat, office, business apps in general + light use of graphic softwares (illustrator & photoshop, no video editing), netflix occasional, no games. Do You suggest me to buy it with or without nvidia gpu?
Was hopping to see the battery removed and how difficult it is. On my lenovo yoga 930c this proved difficult due to adhesive being on the back of the battery pack and the reflective cover.
On my c940, the generation after your laptop, the battery was easy to swap so hopefully they transferred my experience to this laptop.
why were you hopping? take it easy.
SOLD ! to the gentleman in the funny hat over there in the corner.
Thanks for a very entertaining, informative and very interesting review. You helped me decide that this is the one for me.
I'm going to buy one today.
I've had a Lenovo ThinkPad T430s Core i5 16GB 240GB SSD for 3 years, so the Yoga i7 is going to be soooo much better.
Really, can't wait. Thanks !
Hi, nice video. Could you do a detailed review on Lenovo Legion Slim 7i (Gen 7) 2022 model. The one with the display option of MINI LED 165Hz QHD VESA HDR 1000. I haven't been able to find even one video on RUclips on this model so far.
Alex is promoting the heck out of this thing
I was just looking into why i could never find my dream laptop of a
Matte touche screen display. Apparently its because of fingerprints showing/adhering less to glossy and glossy allowing for easier use because of smoother surface. I guess it makes sense. Like i never saw a matte screen cellphone. I was wondering if anyone has ever tried a "matte screen cover" before on a touch screen laptop?
I have tried 5 matte screen protectors from various companies including all the way from Germany. None can match a factory matte screen and they all give you a slight fuzziness, but they're still better than gloss.
so the US model (only one build, no custom) is available now. The audio was hard to hear at this point, but was that wifi card swappable or not? Looks like it would be? but the current available US model only has Wifi 6 not 6E (sales is saying some point in the future). Also only cloud grey, no dark teal. Boo.
I'm preparing my wallet for a new laptop and something like this would be perfect. I figured I'd need a new Ryzen RDNA 2 APU thin and light but this would be perfect honestly - even still have high refresh which I love.
The Ryzen 6800HS (Slim 7 Pro X, without the “i”) is going to be a much better fit for this laptop. Performance slightly lower but you get better temps and battery life. I hope that Ryzen 7 variants with 32gb RAM will be available in my country.
Lmao, you don't need more than 16G unless you compile very heavy stuff like android 12. For which you shouldn't be using a laptop anyway. WTF dude 32G.
@@pranze3484stop spamming “advice” to people who havent asked for any. I know what I want. My use case will benefit from 32gb ram in a laptop. Thats all you need to know.
@@babblebam yeah, sure. Totally believe it, like playing the next decade AAA at 4k on an APU.
@@pranze3484 running a bunch of containers in Docker, an IDE, multiple pages in Chrome and a few other applications running at the same time might actually take up to 32 GB
@@pranze3484 video editors can fill up 32gb ram on a day to day basis. It's really not that hard when you are working with 4k video (or higher)
I literally just bought this laptop, and was looking for a review from you guys😅
Lenovo yogas are very well built. I have a very humble yoga 6 13" and it's built like a tank.
It's a very humble system specs wise, but has a very solid build quality.
Imagine how impressed he would be with a Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 5
Hi, thanks for the overall info. I have a question tho, which program is he using to look at the laptop temperatures? Thanks in advance :)
HWInfo64
I didn't realize the laptop turning on in a backpack was a widespread issue, I thought my laptop was just bad, glad (kinda) to know it is not just me!!
I just bought it! Thanks
Why dont you dimm the lights so that the webcam can be testet in an similar lighting like you would have at home with some daylight in the room?
Hello. I am looking to replace my old laptop (7-8 years old at minimum), and i have my eyes on this one, but my friend tells me that i should choose one with an M1 chip (whatever that is), which one should i go with?
if it helps, i’m not gonna do anything extreme with it, just facebook, youtube, play rom hacks and other things like that.
10:53, I think that's understandable, considering I don't know off the top of my head if there are sodimm ddr5 modules that support 6000 ghz, so I think soldered on memory is okay in this scenario
mfw apple hate
@@rebel2809 at least this lets you swap out the storage.
Perfectly fine, so long as they're letting you spec it with 32GB.
@@YariCodes how do you know they let you swap the storage?
@@rebel2809 10:59 and i can't imagine it's different from other Lenovo laptops
You can set the temp to 115C in the bios?! Has intel raised the tjmax of their chips recently?
Modern standby was a pain for my now many years old lenovo z500. I used it for college, and it randomly toasted everything in my bag. At least I got a warm lunch that way.
Can you look at the board and check that the camera switch is a hard toggle and not a software one?
S O F T W A R E
On Lenovo's Website , it seems to suggest that the HDMI is actually 2.1
‘Overall it’s very laptop looking laptop’
Thanks Alex
It's an amazing laptop.
There are configurations with pretty much every current CPU, GPU or no dGPU that you could want and is also available at an even better price with student discounts. (~1500€)
I picked up last years Think pad which seems to be the same as yoga bar the hinge. The fan is egregious, it totally ruins an otherwise great experience
My dog stepped on bee -> 3:51
Ryhme perfectly XD
F.Y.I the laptop waking itself from sleep randomly is not a modern windows sleep issue. After the last video I tried disabling it to see if the exact issue I've been having with 6 laptops in a row now would go away and no it sadly did not. It's definitely not just a windows issue as well as one of those 6 laptops was a 12" Macbook A1634 which would do the exact same thing running whatever MacOS was current at the time.
how does it compare against a used (-> same price) razer blade? i'd expect the razer blade to have better cooling. but i've seen reviews saying that the razer blade base has insufficient cooling and this video states the slim 7 has good cooling. is that just the different expectations?
Well these new components are more power efficient than what an used Razer would have. Also (powerful) older laptops all had insufficient cooling, the fact that this one isn't bothering with the noise is remarkable. Used: usually the only laptops with adequate cooling were only gaming laptops, but 2-3x heavier and 2-3x bulkier.
@@cosminmilitaru9920 thank you :)
labtop has a nice design and look to it needed a new laptop for school/gaming this one will be going on the list
Thank you for mentioning the modern standby. Thank you, thank you, thank you! Got to give laptop manufacturers a kick too tho - you can disable it modern standby with registry entry, but then s3 is disabled on firmware level because of reasons.
Honestly the build quality of most lenovo laptops and their keyboards have been great from my experience. Granted so far only thinkpads, as work stuffs.
I was agreeing far more with Alex on the price while I was pleasantly surprised to see 1700, for that configuration it's probably closed to the 3K... so we were judging different things.
HDMI 2.0 vs 2.1 whats the difference any more, both standards have the same features as optional before they're considered "full 2.1"
Downfiring speakers like their idea 5 pro line? There's also a ryzen version which looks interesting.
Ordered mine this week in the Netherlands, waiting time over 6 weeks, max out € 2229,- but get a coupon and get it for les than 1950. AMD not yet available.
I wonder if the mouse mat ever interferes with cooling.
what is wrong with audio on this video? it sounds very sharp like the eq curve is really screwed up. i just compared it to other of your recent videos - its only this one and i dont understand why
you guys know any 2 in 1 laptop with 2 ssd? I'm leaning towards Flow X16 but still open for other options...
Go to the bios and disable modern standby. I know its possible on lenovo thinkpad models
I acutally want to buy one - the link doesnt work, ive searched the US site and others, cant find these products
I can it say only for germany but most people don't want Glossy screen in Germany because it reflects you in the sun or in a bright room so most people pick a Matt display but I can only say it from my experience as a seller so I don't really have any numbers
A Yoga without a Touch? Is that possible? Ot is it just like my yoga where the Touch just died (1 time in Garantie and second time after?)
Wait. Why does it only have HDMI 2.0 if it has an NVidia RTX 3000 series GPU?
Pretty sure you can avoid modern standby by using hibernate, which is superior in every way considering modern SSD based systems really have no trouble starting back up in under 10 seconds from hibernate.
Hibernate is great, Modern Standby can suck in the config that Microsoft has implemented as default, but can be quite a bit faster at resuming than Hibernate even with an SSD. I found that a great middleground is to disable Modern Standby's 'Network Connected' mode. This removes the battery drain/heating issues and leaves you with a very speedy resume from sleep. Still agree that hibernate has its own merits though
yes, but you'd actually have to go diving deep into windows menus to even make the option available to do that. I remember how much of a pain in the ass it was for me when I was trying to do the same thing.
It's also just sad that it's a necessary workaround
In the windows settings you can replace sleep with hibernate everywhere so sleep doesn't even show up as an option anymore.
That's what I did and I'm very happy with that decision. "Sleep" sucked.
Shutting down is also better than modern standby. But compared to what we used to get (S3 sleep), hibernate isn't better.
10s resuming from hibernate is fine, but I'd rather have the
@@ATKthesecond is 'modern standby' actually a setting name or just another name for Sleep??
Also I never had my laptop wake up randomly after I put it to Sleep, but yaah I usually preferred Hibernate too
i am genuinly impressed with this laptop, thx lenovo for sponsoring this video.... nuff said
yeah, what he said >.> I'm totally not a bot... o.o
Finally lenovo business laptop please do more. I love my c940
Can you please let me know if you know of a powerful 14-16 inch laptop with ONE 4tb SSD? I need one 4tb SSD. Thank you.
Oh my god. I've been wondering why my Zephyrus G15 on and suuuper toasty when i take it out of my backpack, and I now know why. Legit thought I had a faulty laptop or something. Nice (and sad) to know i'm not the only one having this issue
you forgot to mention that the 120hz display has dynamic refresh rate, i think it can go as low as 30 hz depending on the content.
How come I cannot find the model in the vid from Lenovo website
I'm glad you mentioned modern standby. It is terrible. I have had to set my laptop to hibernate instead of standby when I close the lid just to avoid random power drains from modern standby! Worst "feature" ever.
I havent had many issues when running on battery, but my (admittedly 3 year old) XPS 15 runs hot and the fans almost always keep running for a significant period after closing the lid when it's connected to the adapter. Modern standby sucks ass.
Windows modern standby has been a thorn in my side all the way back in 2016
indeed. lenovo laptops have been so good lately. they should be confident to just send their units for full unbiased reviews.