While I liked the video, I don't like the theory of Ripley being a hero of destiny. In my mind, she's a hero of circumstance, a normal person caught in horrific situation by happenstance.
Well, Circumstance is defined as "a fact or condition connected with or relevant to an event or action" and Destiny is defined as "the events that will necessarily happen to a particular person or thing in the future." So it's really just perspective and opinion of the viewer really. I'm sure Ripley would have felt it was circumstantial. But someone with a more reverent viewpoint could probably see it as destiny, like perhaps the company. Neither is technically wrong. And the more R. Scott adds to the prequels it certainly looks like events were moving that way. Still, an interesting thought though ^_^
@Stoneryoda 937 I could understand that, but it wouldn't necessarily imply a destiny. More so a genetic memory if anything. The same as way we have the kinds of predator/prey reactions with animals we've never met personally. Destiny would be more saying "Ellen Ripley was always meant to meet and destroy the Aliens. No one else save her would have or could have done it." In effect labeling her as a sort of chosen one to choose the simplest and most recognized of destiny's.
That said, I don't discount the absurdity of the notion at all. If an entirely seperate colony of Aliens viewed her as a danger despite the original having been blown to hell on Acheron then it's a slight stretch. Unless we're assuming the Queens' telepathic abilities extend well beyond their control of the colony in their immediate area. Absurd again, but given this assumption I guess it's possible, if weak. Never said it was good writing lol.
Agreed. The idea that Ripley and her blood line are destined to beat the Alien smacks far too much of the 'superhero' craze. I prefer to think of her as someone who survived multiple encounters.
@@jhousdan Resurrection takes place in 2386 - some 300 years after the events of Alien 3. Sea of Sorrows takes place in 2497. The novel directly references the climax of Resurrection, with the Auriga crashing to Earth and destroying Paris (as in the extended edition). According to the Wiki page, 20th Century Fox initially wanted the novel to ignore the events of Alien 3 and Resurrection, but then changed their minds. James A. Moore said he was happy with that, as there were aspects of Resurrection he "really liked". Make of that what you will.
I think in resurrection the arigua crashed into africa or off the coast of africa and the end scene was of ripely in paris which had been decimated before that. There were a couple of inconsistencies in sea of sorrows like the year that ripely destroyed the nostromo (they used the date that hadleys hope was destroyed or vice versa) and they never touched on how the lv178 ship and mines survived the explosion from out of the shadows
@@chasefeller1279Yes, there is definitely some confusion as to the final scenes of the Auriga in Alien Resurrection. It appears to crash in north Africa, and then you see Ripley-8 and Call in the ruins of Paris. I always assumed that either the explosion was so powerful that it reached across the Mediterranean, up to France and Paris but rewatching it, it seems more likely that the Auriga hit Africa, and the Betty altered course just a little, landing in Paris. There are some other inconsistencies in Sea of Sorrows, but we just have to accept these as mistakes.
This was my theory from the very moment after completing Alien: Isolation - Ellen is purposefully misinformed. If Isolation is to be canon, that mean's they've hid many of the conflicts of Amanda with WY, so they've obviously brushed over and removed all traces of Ellen's daughter. And if you think about it, with all the hyper-sleep that goes on in the Alien universe, is it not possible to suggest that Amanda is alive and well? Ellen comes out of hyper-sleep in Aliens decades older, but having aged physically in no way. Born in 2092, and the events of the first movie take place in 2122, this makes her 30 years old. She then wakes up in the second movie in the year 2179, which now makes her 87 years old, despite still being 30 years old physically. Imagine that in Alien 5 - the rumoured movie that is now almost confirmed thanks to David Cameron's interview with IGN recently - we could possibly see the mother and daughter meet. Amanda could still be older than she appears in Isolation, but what if somehow she's gone through a similar 'hyper-oversleep'? Or even a multiple series of long hyper-sleeps? With this, we could essentially pass the torch from Ellen to Amanda in future movies.
With all that deepspace travel and people being put in cryo-sleep all the time, I was already wondering about how this society works anyway. They must think, play and operate on so many time levels, it makes you head hurt. Have you ever read 'The Forever War'? Because that is what this mess reminds me of - in this novel humankind fights a very strange war with another alien species. They spend decades in cryo sleep, level an alien outpost, go back into cryo sleep and come back home decades, maybe even centuries later, rinse and repeat. The hero of the story is bypassing whole millennia this way and at one point, he arrives from a mission and the war is already over for a couple of centuries. So I guess with WY being the lying bastards they are, anything is possible.
It's also possible that that information was highly classified and not available to Burke, it would need to come across the desk of someone in the know and it was many years later. Most people who knew would be retired or dead
I don't have the words to say how awesome your channel is. As a huge fan of the Alien series your story telling accompanied with the graphic work is second to none. Keep up the good work.
I listened to the audio drama of Sea of Sorrows and Rollins was such a class act antagonist. She kept her synth hands clean by controlling all the strings and had her puppets do all the dirty work.
I like how the novel explores the psychic nature of the hive mind. Maybe Decker is a descendant of the Ripley 8 clone like others have suggested, giving him this deep connection to the hive mind.
Just finished reading out of the shadows and sea of sorrows. They were excellent novels. Really captured the fear and action that is the alien franchise. Starting river of pain next then cold forge after that. Hope they are just as good.
That would be very interesting to see the directors of the movies and writers explore the ability to exploit/ use the human mind, and how xenos communicate... alien theory you have great subjects that you explore keep it up
@@AlienTheory No problem at all. We all have our down/slow days. There's no wrong in that. I'm glad you're getting back into your groove again. We'll be here whenever you're ready.
I feel like I'm in kind of a weird spot when it comes to the Alien narrative. The original trilogy, Prometheus and Covenant, and Isolation I feel were the ones that truly make up the meat of the whole story but a lot of the books, comics and other games (looking at you colonial marines) just tend to feel like glorified fanfiction. Don't get me wrong, for the most part, I find them great and they make for fun "what if" type stories, but they never seem to have something tangible enough to make me really see them as being able to live within the Alien universe proper. Maybe it's just me and my brain just doesn't work. Who knows. Either way, it would have been brilliant to see a proper game sequel to Isolation as it very easily has taken my top 3 games of all time spot and I felt the story added a good deal to overall narrative. In any case, glad to hear you well and back at it! Really love the content and the fact that there are other Alien fanboys/girls out there really makes me happy!
When you get a chance, give the audio drama version of both Out of the Shadows and Sea of Sorrows a try? You can find both on youtube and are very well done. Personally I found them both to fit near seamlessly in an Alien movie thon. Maybe you'll feel the same :)
This is so crazy i literally started reading this book today. What’re the odds that you make a video on this the day i pick it up. Maybe you can sense Alien fans and what they’re doing.... lol keep up the great work man loved the video👍
Good question, I wonder myself. I think sometimes the writers must get bogged down with beaucratic B.S. they may have put it on the back burner for now. Who knows when it’ll turn up. They still talk about alien awakening, and alien 5 with Cameron as director ( still nothing)....😢
Honestly going forward in the Alien movies franchise, I would have loved to see the Ripley family linked to the discovering of the Alien planet, instead of Prometheus and all of it. Festuring Amanda in Alien Isolation was just genius.
The only guarantee we have of Amanda’s future is her appearances in the comics (which at the time of writing is the Alien: Rescue), since as you say Burke is an unreliable narrator when dealing with Ripley. It’s also possible that while Decker is a descendant of the Ripley bloodline, he’s not a direct descendant of Ellen and Amanda. A quick consult of Ellen Ripley’s Xenopedia page doesn’t say anything about her immediate family beyond Amanda, Amanda’s father (a man called Alex who doesn’t even have his own page) and second husband Paul Carter (most information about him comes from the Isolation novelisation). It’s possible she may have siblings, which would still allow for Decker to have enough genetic inheritance to be recognised as a Ripley. It is also plausible Burke lied about Amanda not having children in order to manipulate Ripley, so that she wouldn’t seek them out and have less reason to go back to LV-426. For all we know Amanda had children. Given her distrust of Weyland-Yutani and the dangerous situations she was in, it’s possible she stopped spending time with her child(ren) to protect them from danger and WY, another way she was like her own mother in that they lost out on experiencing motherhood.
Now THIS sounds like a great new addition to this franchise. Something of a generations series from "Amanda" and afterwards chronicling such a journey and their family legacy of man or woman they basically all happen to become exceptionally good at combating Xenomorphs and basically become the bane of their existence through the ages.
With the title of Destroyer I thought at first that you were referring to any Children the Hybrid Ripley from Alien Resurrection may have had after landing on Earth..... Do you know any info about that?
But in what scenario does she actually get to be their mother? She lost Amanda and was absent for the entirety of her life, she lost Newt, and she even lost her Alien offspring. She's never in a situation where she's actually living out her motherhood.
I haven't read the comic yet but I did find the first novel at a book store the other day. I really enjoy how they dive deeper into the species of the xenomorph and show that they're beyond just perfect killing machines. Oh and nice starwars joke :)
I'm very anxious to see what they do with Decker going forward... Sea of Sorrows ended on a major cliffhanger. That trilogy of books was well-written, and the audio dramas were great, the woman that voiced Ripley was a vitual copy of Sigourney Weaver's voice. In River of Pain, I thought the guy playing Burke sounded more like Goreman than a then-30 years older William Hope did, though. While we can figure none of Ripley's ancestors were part of the prequels (given no survivors going back to earth... unless perhaps there were unmentioned siblings), it would be interesting to know if perhaps someone from AVP was a distant relation to her. I don't care much for the idea of a "hero of destiny" either, as the idea of it all being circumstantial makes it more terrifying and tragic. Just my opinion though.
Hello Alien Theory!! I’m a huge fan of your videos and of the alien series and universe. I’m curious as to what if the company (weyland/yutani ) had gotten a hold of the xenomorph? Would they have been able to successfully control them and use them as what they called “bio-weapon”.
I think, Ripley 8 dated Ron Pearlman and they made a child after the events from Alien Resurrection... And since she had a telepathic connection to the Xenomorphs as a result of being a clone from the Alien queen and the original Ripley, she inherited those thelepathic abilities to Alan Decker. Oh, and they should film the novels "Out of the shadows" and "sea of sorrows" to get it all canon ;)
I haven't started on the comic books yet, but I had already made up my mind quite a while ago that Amanda had children who could become part of the story. I'd be interested to see that!
That bit about Burke maybe lying about Ripley not having any family left is sinister and vile, but I wouldn't put it past him. It's like, he'd say something like that to reduce Ripley's hopes of getting back to "normality", to nothing. And I love that depth of how the Xenomorphs sort of feel the pain of past relatives. It's like they're completely in tune with genetic memory or something. They remember pain and suffering from decades or maybe even centuries ago.
I'm convinced that Burke lied to Ripley about her daughter. I say this based on the fact that both Weyland Yutini and Burke often lie to get what they want. And in that case, they didn't want Ellen Ripley to dig around about her daughter (and to eventually find out what she did against the company). Their priority was to get Ripley to accept Burke's offer. And not to be tied down by anything else on Earth.
I like this take. Also the scene you talking about was deleted from the original film. Just like most other deleted scenes that are vital to the story.
Great video! I picked up the first issue of Resistance. I thought it was a good start to the series. Are you reading the comic adaptation of William Gibson’s Alien 3?
Welcome back! I forward to all of your new videos. Have you checked out the Alien 3 comic that was just released? Makes me wonder why Fox went with the current vision instead of that script.
I have been keeping up and enjoying. From what I remember of the script it is very faithful to Gibson’s story and the artwork is great. Issue 4 is out soon I think! 😁😁
@@AlienTheory the artwork and story is top notch. After hearing you speak about Resistance, I think I will pick it up at my comic book store next time I go in.
Seriously man, I love your channel and appreciate everything you do and everything that you contribute to the Alien franchise. Your channel always makes me want to go back and watch the films in a new and different view of them. Thank you lad your a hero. Love from Ireland 🇮🇪
I never thought one movie (a great one at that!) could ever result in the world that has become and everything it now represents! But I'm glad it did ,as what a world to keep invested in!
@Alien Theory. Did you hear that there is going to be two separate series of Alien? I heard, one going to Hulu which will be produced by Riddley Scott and another series. I wonder what timeline's they will be set in?
I honestly like the Ripley bloodline being like a Van Helsing type against the xenomorphs. It's not an "ordained by destiny" situation, but like a sort or boogeyman for the aliens. I like it, makes me think they found a lifeforms that they actually fear.
🖖🏻OMG!!! AT You are the BEST! I have been waiting for you to talk about Allen Decker!!!! it’s one of my favoite stories in the Alien: Extended Universe! I have three theories about how he could be a descendent! (One is kinda silly but I will include it anyway! Ok 1. He descendent of Ripely 8 ( quite a few people have suggested this already) Cuz in the book Alien resurrection Ripley 8 is telepathically linked to the genetically engineered hive. 2. Amanda had child in secret and hid it for obvious reasons. And finally 3. (my wild silly theory) In Alien Out of the Shadows we meet Hooper and during the story he an Ripply hit it off. What if she slept with him and got pregnant? The hyper sleep would have slowed the pregnancy and what if they kept her asleep took the child? *Spoiler alert* in Alien out of the shadows they wipe her memory of having been to the planet. They could have wiped he memory of having a baby! I know it’s a silly theory but everyone one commenting on this Channel are very courteous and open minded! Keep the videos coming!👩🏻🦰
I bet the cloned xenos survived due to the fact that there is a second Queen. How? The second Queen was extracted/removed from Ripley 7, the "kill me" Ripley clone. And it would make sense bringing Sigourney back despite looking much older. And which is good that she has aged because I'm sure the Ripley 8 clone ages at an accelerated rate or rapidly, fits the character perfectly. We can even re-introduce the newborn and explore more of it thus expanding its potential.
That's good though because it would give the Queen a unique or deformed appearance. And with that being said it's possible to have given birth to conjoin Newborn twins that are grotesquely hideous. Either way, an Alien Resurrection part 2 aka Alien 5 could still be done. Not too late.
Lance Carreno ooh imagine a hive of mutated newborns and there all cannibals and somehow there's one surviving Xenomorph egg and a newborn gets facehugged which ends up in a mutated super Xenomorph
That would be sick to see lol. I wonder how the chestburster will look? Now I feel like playing Aliens Infestation oon my 2DS XL. You should look up/RUclips the game and see if your sorta thing. So fun it is. Remember in the first Alien movie we see that something was bursted out of the Space Jockey's chest? Well, in the game they show what came through. :)
Public service announcement: the Alien Isolation mobile sequel is actually damn good. I literally dislike every other mobile game I have ever played, but that one is legit. 9/10, would recommend. No microtransactions or DLC either.
one thing I could never quite figure out Weyland Yutani must've known about the Xenomorphs way before the nistromo crew encountered the Xenomorph in the first movie
I think Decker is a descendant of Ripley 8 and her being a Hybrid of sorts with X112 gives Deckar his link to the Xenomorphs as a whole. It is said that Ripley 8 had an unnamed daughter
In one of the early ALIENS comics which retconned ALIEN 3, Ripley was forced to return to the derelict. She fell into a opening in the ship and somehow interfaced with the ship itself. It also linked her to the hive collective and the Queen Mother. It later turned out the Engineers purposefully did all this so they can get Earth infested and be lead there to begin terraforming the planet.
Here's something I have been wondering, does the Alien, in someway assimilate knowledge of it's environment from it's host? And for this, I refer back to Aliens when they cut the power to the facility. Did they have fore-knowledge of the power systems? Assimilated intelligence from a host that may have been a systems engineer on LV426? Might make for interesting Theory video?
Evidence suggests they do: The Alien in Alien knows it's way around the ship well and intentionally didn't kill the cat so that Ripley would come back for it In Aliens, they cut the power and used elevators In Alien 3, the alien was more animal like and less intelligent In Alien: Resurrection, they seemed to be arguing at one point which would make sense as the people didn't all know eachother
I can buy the xenos having some sort of telepathic ability, but humans possessing similar traits? Are W-Y vessels now going to start having counselors onboard?
Humans are supposed to have wonderous dormant locked psychic potential that we're just not evolved enough to access or really understand yet is one of the leading scientific theories on that. An it's a common trope in futuristic scifi like this that some of us spontaneously develop it a little or that somehow "future science" has kinda figured it out and helped make specific people or types of them deliberately so for various reasons. It can work if used right
Assuming there is some "Destroyer" thing going on, and that Decker is a descendent in some way, I definitely don't think every single Xenomorph in the galaxy sees Ripley as "The Destroyer", only the ones on LV-128. They managed to survive the "attack" of Ripley and the crew of the Marion; assuming the Xenomorphs do share genetic memories, then it could be that some memory of her scent has remained in their shared consciousness for hundreds of years. I haven't read this book yet, though. I'm sure I'll draw some new conclusions once I do.
I know this isn't related to the video in any way, but one question I'd like to see you answer in a future video is 'Did Walter love Daniels?' We know that after David, androids were made 'more like machines', with their emotions supposedly removed. But as David quite rightly points out, Walter's relationship with Daniels does seem to be more than blind servitude. He appears to be much more protective of her than he is with the rest of the crew. Could it be possible, then, that Walter does have emotional capability? And if so, is it intentionally built into him or purely accidental?
It could be an interesting topic. After all, the original series seems to show that synthetics do have *some* emotion. Ash feels admiration for the alien, Bishop is capable of preference ("I prefer the term 'artificial person' myself") and Call obviously has a whole range of emotions. So it would make sense that Walter was able to feel an emotional attachment to Daniels.
I know the AVP movies are not truly connected to the main Alien timeline but I remember hearing about Kelly O'Brien might be an ancestor to Riply. Kelly even tells her daughter about how she used to have bad nightmare of monsters when she was younger. Could it be all connected?
It is something to chew on for sure. I mentioned her in the "Ripley's Ancestors" video but don't think I mentioned the nightmares...missed opportunity on my part, would have connected to this video better.
My theory is that maybe Ripley 8 could be why decker has a direct empathic link to the Xenomorphs, she was spliced with their dna over a hundred years ago after all. She had some kids and they got married and so on, continuing the bloodline until we meet decker.
While I liked the video, I don't like the theory of Ripley being a hero of destiny. In my mind, she's a hero of circumstance, a normal person caught in horrific situation by happenstance.
Well, Circumstance is defined as "a fact or condition connected with or relevant to an event or action" and Destiny is defined as "the events that will necessarily happen to a particular person or thing in the future."
So it's really just perspective and opinion of the viewer really. I'm sure Ripley would have felt it was circumstantial. But someone with a more reverent viewpoint could probably see it as destiny, like perhaps the company. Neither is technically wrong. And the more R. Scott adds to the prequels it certainly looks like events were moving that way.
Still, an interesting thought though ^_^
@Stoneryoda 937 I could understand that, but it wouldn't necessarily imply a destiny. More so a genetic memory if anything. The same as way we have the kinds of predator/prey reactions with animals we've never met personally. Destiny would be more saying "Ellen Ripley was always meant to meet and destroy the Aliens. No one else save her would have or could have done it." In effect labeling her as a sort of chosen one to choose the simplest and most recognized of destiny's.
That said, I don't discount the absurdity of the notion at all. If an entirely seperate colony of Aliens viewed her as a danger despite the original having been blown to hell on Acheron then it's a slight stretch. Unless we're assuming the Queens' telepathic abilities extend well beyond their control of the colony in their immediate area. Absurd again, but given this assumption I guess it's possible, if weak. Never said it was good writing lol.
Agreed. The idea that Ripley and her blood line are destined to beat the Alien smacks far too much of the 'superhero' craze.
I prefer to think of her as someone who survived multiple encounters.
Exactly. That's what made her appealing, the hero destiny bloodline shit is overrated and over saturated.
Decker's empathic link to the Alien rather suggests he's a descendent of Ripley-8 - Ellen Ripley's clone.
I hadn’t thought of that. Wow that actually kinda makes sense.
I'm a little fuzzy on the timeline of Alien Resurrection (it's been years since I watched it), wouldn't it have been AFTER this book?
@@jhousdan Resurrection takes place in 2386 - some 300 years after the events of Alien 3. Sea of Sorrows takes place in 2497.
The novel directly references the climax of Resurrection, with the Auriga crashing to Earth and destroying Paris (as in the extended edition). According to the Wiki page, 20th Century Fox initially wanted the novel to ignore the events of Alien 3 and Resurrection, but then changed their minds. James A. Moore said he was happy with that, as there were aspects of Resurrection he "really liked". Make of that what you will.
I think in resurrection the arigua crashed into africa or off the coast of africa and the end scene was of ripely in paris which had been decimated before that. There were a couple of inconsistencies in sea of sorrows like the year that ripely destroyed the nostromo (they used the date that hadleys hope was destroyed or vice versa) and they never touched on how the lv178 ship and mines survived the explosion from out of the shadows
@@chasefeller1279Yes, there is definitely some confusion as to the final scenes of the Auriga in Alien Resurrection. It appears to crash in north Africa, and then you see Ripley-8 and Call in the ruins of Paris. I always assumed that either the explosion was so powerful that it reached across the Mediterranean, up to France and Paris but rewatching it, it seems more likely that the Auriga hit Africa, and the Betty altered course just a little, landing in Paris. There are some other inconsistencies in Sea of Sorrows, but we just have to accept these as mistakes.
You should do novelization readings. Really enjoy your channel, thank you.
He was born to do this, tbh
Ha a MGTOW brother amoung this channel fans..... aswome man 👍
He read all the Alien comics. :)
This was my theory from the very moment after completing Alien: Isolation - Ellen is purposefully misinformed. If Isolation is to be canon, that mean's they've hid many of the conflicts of Amanda with WY, so they've obviously brushed over and removed all traces of Ellen's daughter.
And if you think about it, with all the hyper-sleep that goes on in the Alien universe, is it not possible to suggest that Amanda is alive and well?
Ellen comes out of hyper-sleep in Aliens decades older, but having aged physically in no way. Born in 2092, and the events of the first movie take place in 2122, this makes her 30 years old.
She then wakes up in the second movie in the year 2179, which now makes her 87 years old, despite still being 30 years old physically.
Imagine that in Alien 5 - the rumoured movie that is now almost confirmed thanks to David Cameron's interview with IGN recently - we could possibly see the mother and daughter meet. Amanda could still be older than she appears in Isolation, but what if somehow she's gone through a similar 'hyper-oversleep'? Or even a multiple series of long hyper-sleeps?
With this, we could essentially pass the torch from Ellen to Amanda in future movies.
I am totally on board with this idea. I'm for sure going to look for these novels and the Dark Horse comics now.
With all that deepspace travel and people being put in cryo-sleep all the time, I was already wondering about how this society works anyway. They must think, play and operate on so many time levels, it makes you head hurt.
Have you ever read 'The Forever War'? Because that is what this mess reminds me of - in this novel humankind fights a very strange war with another alien species. They spend decades in cryo sleep, level an alien outpost, go back into cryo sleep and come back home decades, maybe even centuries later, rinse and repeat. The hero of the story is bypassing whole millennia this way and at one point, he arrives from a mission and the war is already over for a couple of centuries.
So I guess with WY being the lying bastards they are, anything is possible.
It's also possible that that information was highly classified and not available to Burke, it would need to come across the desk of someone in the know and it was many years later. Most people who knew would be retired or dead
I don't have the words to say how awesome your channel is. As a huge fan of the Alien series your story telling accompanied with the graphic work is second to none. Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much. I love making these videos and appreciate you watching and appreciate the encouragement! I hope it never ends.
I listened to the audio drama of Sea of Sorrows and Rollins was such a class act antagonist. She kept her synth hands clean by controlling all the strings and had her puppets do all the dirty work.
It was so good
the voice actor made it VERY easy to hate that character, and I loved that. You could smell the slime on her from the word "go."
Candybars agreed she spoke in that “I’m the highest authority and you can’t do shit” kinda tone.
I like how the novel explores the psychic nature of the hive mind. Maybe Decker is a descendant of the Ripley 8 clone like others have suggested, giving him this deep connection to the hive mind.
I agree. That seems like by far the most canonical and non-disruptive interpretation. We don't know what Ripley 8 did after Alien 4.
Now that is a great theory! Makes the ridiculousness of the "Destroyers" cannon easier to swallow.
Just finished reading out of the shadows and sea of sorrows. They were excellent novels. Really captured the fear and action that is the alien franchise. Starting river of pain next then cold forge after that. Hope they are just as good.
The audible books are great. Cold forge is very good. Enjoy.
River of pain is incredibly tragic
I definitely recommend checking out the audio dramas on Audible.
I wanna see Weyland-Yutani vs the Umbrella Corporation
Lickers vs Xenomorphs :)
I think the real question is would the T virus be able to infect a Xeno.
lol it would be the battle of who could fuck up the world harder
mmmm mmmm interesting
@@corybowman3923 what if they put the G virus into a wounded alien and it just kept on mutating and still had the acid blood
Love this channel, so glad yous are back!!
That would be very interesting to see the directors of the movies and writers explore the ability to exploit/ use the human mind, and how xenos communicate... alien theory you have great subjects that you explore keep it up
Yes! Thank God you're back!! Haven't seen or heard from you in a while!
Anyone else finds these videos extremely soothing to listen to? #ASMR
yesssss. I could listen to his voice all day long. The FIrst time I've gotten that listening to a male voice.
I love the background music, combined with the green aesthetic, plus he's a very good narrator. Good tone to his voice.
Love your work, keep up the amazing content 👌
Thank you I will do my best!
Dude, we're not crossing over star wars lol. But, all in all I'm very happy you're back and hopefully doing ok. We care about your wellbeing dude.
Thank you, it means a lot to me that you care about my wellbeing. I’m trying my best! Got a lot planned for this year.
@@AlienTheory No problem at all. We all have our down/slow days. There's no wrong in that. I'm glad you're getting back into your groove again. We'll be here whenever you're ready.
@Stoneryoda 937 I know right, we have one of many great pioneers here to help us escape and learn more about this wonderful world of Alien.
I feel like I'm in kind of a weird spot when it comes to the Alien narrative. The original trilogy, Prometheus and Covenant, and Isolation I feel were the ones that truly make up the meat of the whole story but a lot of the books, comics and other games (looking at you colonial marines) just tend to feel like glorified fanfiction. Don't get me wrong, for the most part, I find them great and they make for fun "what if" type stories, but they never seem to have something tangible enough to make me really see them as being able to live within the Alien universe proper. Maybe it's just me and my brain just doesn't work. Who knows. Either way, it would have been brilliant to see a proper game sequel to Isolation as it very easily has taken my top 3 games of all time spot and I felt the story added a good deal to overall narrative. In any case, glad to hear you well and back at it! Really love the content and the fact that there are other Alien fanboys/girls out there really makes me happy!
The original comics in my opinion are truer to the story than Prometheus and Covenant.
When you get a chance, give the audio drama version of both Out of the Shadows and Sea of Sorrows a try? You can find both on youtube and are very well done. Personally I found them both to fit near seamlessly in an Alien movie thon. Maybe you'll feel the same :)
The picture of Amanda Ripley was actually Sigourney's recently deceased mother so the emotion was real there.
This is so crazy i literally started reading this book today. What’re the odds that you make a video on this the day i pick it up. Maybe you can sense Alien fans and what they’re doing.... lol keep up the great work man loved the video👍
I am an Empath! Lol 😂 Thank you for watching and hope you enjoy the book...the audio drama is really good too!
It's not related but what happened to the Alien: Isolation novelization that was supposed to come out in January ?
Good question, I wonder myself. I think sometimes the writers must get bogged down with beaucratic B.S. they may have put it on the back burner for now. Who knows when it’ll turn up. They still talk about alien awakening, and alien 5 with Cameron as director ( still nothing)....😢
@@randallpetroelje3913 it’s out now on Amazon for $8 USD
Thanks for all your epic uploads man they are a great trip off this rock everytime
I love the tone, inflection, and meter of the narrator of these videos.
Love the Audio Drama with Decker and of Cource read The Book.
Salute to your work ! Great Video
Pretty cool man. I’d like to see more. The previous comment about umbrella v.s weyland /yutani might be epic!
There's something so fascinating about the Alien universe
All those inherited bills... lol
What a fuckin book
This is definitely the best explanation I’m still sifting through all of your vids this is amazing
I love your content! Love the way you discuss things. Keep up the good work!
Honestly going forward in the Alien movies franchise, I would have loved to see the Ripley family linked to the discovering of the Alien planet, instead of Prometheus and all of it. Festuring Amanda in Alien Isolation was just genius.
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Nice to hear you again, been missing your newer videos as their always great to watch and listen.
I´ve never clicked so fast.
EDIT: I missed these kind of videos, is nice to see you back. Sea of sorrows is a great book, a nice addition to the lore.
These videos are great. I use them as short bedtime stories. Thank you x
god i love this channel, it's the gift that keeps giving.
AT on point as usual
Thanks for the video!! See you next time.
Great channel...excellent video..food for thought...keep it up geez 👜👍⚡
Come home from work, let the dog out, look on Twitter, sees new alien theory video, Screams hell yeah!!!!! Great vid bro!
Aw yea thank you buddy
Recently listened to the audible dramas and they are awesome. They expand so much more in to the alien universe.
i luv ur videos.. and ur narration makes them a lot more fun to listen to. u got a nice voice :3
Thank you very much!
Love your channel. Alien has always been one of my favorite Sci-Fi universes and your knowledge and insight is awesome.
Game over man GAME OVER
Get it together Hicks!
One xenomorph disliked this video
2 now...FLAMETHROWER, MOVE!!
There's something in the vents!
Quick flush it out!!😂 I love this channel too. Cool story, never fails.
The only guarantee we have of Amanda’s future is her appearances in the comics (which at the time of writing is the Alien: Rescue), since as you say Burke is an unreliable narrator when dealing with Ripley.
It’s also possible that while Decker is a descendant of the Ripley bloodline, he’s not a direct descendant of Ellen and Amanda. A quick consult of Ellen Ripley’s Xenopedia page doesn’t say anything about her immediate family beyond Amanda, Amanda’s father (a man called Alex who doesn’t even have his own page) and second husband Paul Carter (most information about him comes from the Isolation novelisation). It’s possible she may have siblings, which would still allow for Decker to have enough genetic inheritance to be recognised as a Ripley. It is also plausible Burke lied about Amanda not having children in order to manipulate Ripley, so that she wouldn’t seek them out and have less reason to go back to LV-426. For all we know Amanda had children. Given her distrust of Weyland-Yutani and the dangerous situations she was in, it’s possible she stopped spending time with her child(ren) to protect them from danger and WY, another way she was like her own mother in that they lost out on experiencing motherhood.
Now THIS sounds like a great new addition to this franchise. Something of a generations series from "Amanda" and afterwards chronicling such a journey and their family legacy of man or woman they basically all happen to become exceptionally good at combating Xenomorphs and basically become the bane of their existence through the ages.
Man..I'm riveted. Ur an excellent narrator.
I fu**ing love your channel
With the title of Destroyer I thought at first that you were referring to any Children the Hybrid Ripley from Alien Resurrection may have had after landing on Earth.....
Do you know any info about that?
Cloned Ripley could have children. It'a a possible scenario.
But in what scenario does she actually get to be their mother? She lost Amanda and was absent for the entirety of her life, she lost Newt, and she even lost her Alien offspring. She's never in a situation where she's actually living out her motherhood.
Would the kids have acid blood?
@@michaeldriggers7681It's highly probable. Xenomorphs genes are dominant.
Hell ya, another Alien Theory video!!! Keep them rolling out dude. PLEASE!!!
I’ll try my best! Cooking up a lot just need to organize it all!
SWEET!!!....I was just thinking earlier today about when we'll get another vid, and just like that...boom, you deliver!
THANKS BROTHA!
Last one took a lot out of me but I was eager to do this video. Thank you for watching and I hope to deliver more frequently moving forward.
@@AlienTheory ...
Your hard work is WELL APPRECIATED
I found Decker's character in the audiobook refreshing for the series and ultimately well-handled
Nice content as always! Sir, could we have a New could forte vídeo?
Love you videos dude I have been subscribed to you for 3 or 4 years now
I really appreciate you sticking around so long! Thank you!
Ok the midi-chlorians line had be chuckling for a good 2 mins. Thanks but try and put more of that in, it works.
Where can I find these books to purchase?
I haven't read the comic yet but I did find the first novel at a book store the other day. I really enjoy how they dive deeper into the species of the xenomorph and show that they're beyond just perfect killing machines. Oh and nice starwars joke :)
I'm very anxious to see what they do with Decker going forward... Sea of Sorrows ended on a major cliffhanger. That trilogy of books was well-written, and the audio dramas were great, the woman that voiced Ripley was a vitual copy of Sigourney Weaver's voice. In River of Pain, I thought the guy playing Burke sounded more like Goreman than a then-30 years older William Hope did, though.
While we can figure none of Ripley's ancestors were part of the prequels (given no survivors going back to earth... unless perhaps there were unmentioned siblings), it would be interesting to know if perhaps someone from AVP was a distant relation to her.
I don't care much for the idea of a "hero of destiny" either, as the idea of it all being circumstantial makes it more terrifying and tragic. Just my opinion though.
Awsome as always dude keep up the good works
These videos are amazing
Hello Alien Theory!! I’m a huge fan of your videos and of the alien series and universe. I’m curious as to what if the company (weyland/yutani ) had gotten a hold of the xenomorph? Would they have been able to successfully control them and use them as what they called “bio-weapon”.
Just subscribed, don't know why it took me so long. I follow you on all the social media :)
I think, Ripley 8 dated Ron Pearlman and they made a child after the events from Alien Resurrection...
And since she had a telepathic connection to the Xenomorphs as a result of being a clone from the Alien queen and the original Ripley, she inherited those thelepathic abilities to Alan Decker.
Oh, and they should film the novels "Out of the shadows" and "sea of sorrows" to get it all canon ;)
I haven't started on the comic books yet, but I had already made up my mind quite a while ago that Amanda had children who could become part of the story. I'd be interested to see that!
That bit about Burke maybe lying about Ripley not having any family left is sinister and vile, but I wouldn't put it past him. It's like, he'd say something like that to reduce Ripley's hopes of getting back to "normality", to nothing.
And I love that depth of how the Xenomorphs sort of feel the pain of past relatives. It's like they're completely in tune with genetic memory or something. They remember pain and suffering from decades or maybe even centuries ago.
Id love to see a video on how you would write the alien universe
I'm convinced that Burke lied to Ripley about her daughter.
I say this based on the fact that both Weyland Yutini and Burke often lie to get what they want. And in that case, they didn't want Ellen Ripley to dig around about her daughter (and to eventually find out what she did against the company). Their priority was to get Ripley to accept Burke's offer. And not to be tied down by anything else on Earth.
I like this take. Also the scene you talking about was deleted from the original film. Just like most other deleted scenes that are vital to the story.
sea of sorrow i enjoid the audible production
Very cool and interesting video as always Alien Theory !
Great video! I picked up the first issue of Resistance. I thought it was a good start to the series. Are you reading the comic adaptation of William Gibson’s Alien 3?
I am and I’m enjoying it. Issue 4 is soon!
Welcome back! I forward to all of your new videos. Have you checked out the Alien 3 comic that was just released? Makes me wonder why Fox went with the current vision instead of that script.
I have been keeping up and enjoying. From what I remember of the script it is very faithful to Gibson’s story and the artwork is great. Issue 4 is out soon I think! 😁😁
@@AlienTheory the artwork and story is top notch. After hearing you speak about Resistance, I think I will pick it up at my comic book store next time I go in.
thanks for the Videos 👏👏👍👍♥♥Keep em comin ♥♥♥
Midi-chlorians! That's a good joke!😂😂😂
Haha
Yup! I loved it too 🤣👍
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Seriously man, I love your channel and appreciate everything you do and everything that you contribute to the Alien franchise. Your channel always makes me want to go back and watch the films in a new and different view of them. Thank you lad your a hero. Love from Ireland 🇮🇪
Thank you very much! Long live Ireland!
Alien Theory Thank you Mo Chara. God bless 🇮🇪🇺🇸
My favorite channel on YT :)
I never thought one movie (a great one at that!) could ever result in the world that has become and everything it now represents! But I'm glad it did ,as what a world to keep invested in!
@Alien Theory. Did you hear that there is going to be two separate series of Alien? I heard, one going to Hulu which will be produced by Riddley Scott and another series. I wonder what timeline's they will be set in?
I love the 3 Alien Radio plays
I honestly like the Ripley bloodline being like a Van Helsing type against the xenomorphs. It's not an "ordained by destiny" situation, but like a sort or boogeyman for the aliens. I like it, makes me think they found a lifeforms that they actually fear.
The alien audiobook trilogy was so goooood
What is that? Can I have the detail?
the music in the beggining? that peaceful space music ?:DDD
Good stuff, man!
🖖🏻OMG!!! AT You are the BEST! I have been waiting for you to talk about Allen Decker!!!! it’s one of my favoite stories in the Alien: Extended Universe! I have three theories about how he could be a descendent! (One is kinda silly but I will include it anyway! Ok 1. He descendent of Ripely 8 ( quite a few people have suggested this already) Cuz in the book Alien resurrection Ripley 8 is telepathically linked to the genetically engineered hive. 2. Amanda had child in secret and hid it for obvious reasons. And finally 3. (my wild silly theory) In Alien Out of the Shadows we meet Hooper and during the story he an Ripply hit it off. What if she slept with him and got pregnant? The hyper sleep would have slowed the pregnancy and what if they kept her asleep took the child? *Spoiler alert* in Alien out of the shadows they wipe her memory of having been to the planet. They could have wiped he memory of having a baby! I know it’s a silly theory but everyone one commenting on this Channel are very courteous and open minded! Keep the videos coming!👩🏻🦰
I always thought in aliens ripley was lied too
Can you make a video about wha happned after Alien Resurrection?
I bet the cloned xenos survived due to the fact that there is a second Queen. How? The second Queen was extracted/removed from Ripley 7, the "kill me" Ripley clone. And it would make sense bringing Sigourney back despite looking much older. And which is good that she has aged because I'm sure the Ripley 8 clone ages at an accelerated rate or rapidly, fits the character perfectly. We can even re-introduce the newborn and explore more of it thus expanding its potential.
Lance Carreno but Ripley 7s queen would have been to dis formed to function properly
That's good though because it would give the Queen a unique or deformed appearance. And with that being said it's possible to have given birth to conjoin Newborn twins that are grotesquely hideous. Either way, an Alien Resurrection part 2 aka Alien 5 could still be done. Not too late.
Lance Carreno ooh imagine a hive of mutated newborns and there all cannibals and somehow there's one surviving Xenomorph egg and a newborn gets facehugged which ends up in a mutated super Xenomorph
That would be sick to see lol. I wonder how the chestburster will look? Now I feel like playing Aliens Infestation oon my 2DS XL. You should look up/RUclips the game and see if your sorta thing. So fun it is. Remember in the first Alien movie we see that something was bursted out of the Space Jockey's chest? Well, in the game they show what came through. :)
Public service announcement: the Alien Isolation mobile sequel is actually damn good. I literally dislike every other mobile game I have ever played, but that one is legit. 9/10, would recommend. No microtransactions or DLC either.
New video!
one thing I could never quite figure out Weyland Yutani must've known about the Xenomorphs way before the nistromo crew encountered the Xenomorph in the first movie
Never clicked anything so fast
I like the idea of a clone or dna being used to make an ancestor of Ripley.
your content is so good and right on .. Im in in the beginning of building a Xeno suit /costume. Keep doing what you do...
I think Decker is a descendant of Ripley 8 and her being a Hybrid of sorts with X112 gives Deckar his link to the Xenomorphs as a whole. It is said that Ripley 8 had an unnamed daughter
In one of the early ALIENS comics which retconned ALIEN 3, Ripley was forced to return to the derelict. She fell into a opening in the ship and somehow interfaced with the ship itself. It also linked her to the hive collective and the Queen Mother. It later turned out the Engineers purposefully did all this so they can get Earth infested and be lead there to begin terraforming the planet.
Here's something I have been wondering, does the Alien, in someway assimilate knowledge of it's environment from it's host? And for this, I refer back to Aliens when they cut the power to the facility. Did they have fore-knowledge of the power systems? Assimilated intelligence from a host that may have been a systems engineer on LV426? Might make for interesting Theory video?
Evidence suggests they do:
The Alien in Alien knows it's way around the ship well and intentionally didn't kill the cat so that Ripley would come back for it
In Aliens, they cut the power and used elevators
In Alien 3, the alien was more animal like and less intelligent
In Alien: Resurrection, they seemed to be arguing at one point which would make sense as the people didn't all know eachother
I can buy the xenos having some sort of telepathic ability, but humans possessing similar traits? Are W-Y vessels now going to start having counselors onboard?
You mean like counselor Troy on Star Trek? Possibly, who knows 🤔
Humans are supposed to have wonderous dormant locked psychic potential that we're just not evolved enough to access or really understand yet is one of the leading scientific theories on that. An it's a common trope in futuristic scifi like this that some of us spontaneously develop it a little or that somehow "future science" has kinda figured it out and helped make specific people or types of them deliberately so for various reasons. It can work if used right
Assuming there is some "Destroyer" thing going on, and that Decker is a descendent in some way, I definitely don't think every single Xenomorph in the galaxy sees Ripley as "The Destroyer", only the ones on LV-128. They managed to survive the "attack" of Ripley and the crew of the Marion; assuming the Xenomorphs do share genetic memories, then it could be that some memory of her scent has remained in their shared consciousness for hundreds of years.
I haven't read this book yet, though. I'm sure I'll draw some new conclusions once I do.
Please make videos on Karl Bishop Weyland from AVP 2010 and other associated characters and events from that game!!!
I know this isn't related to the video in any way, but one question I'd like to see you answer in a future video is 'Did Walter love Daniels?' We know that after David, androids were made 'more like machines', with their emotions supposedly removed. But as David quite rightly points out, Walter's relationship with Daniels does seem to be more than blind servitude. He appears to be much more protective of her than he is with the rest of the crew. Could it be possible, then, that Walter does have emotional capability? And if so, is it intentionally built into him or purely accidental?
Have been mulling this over for some time and will definitely explore it in a video- eventually! 😁
It could be an interesting topic. After all, the original series seems to show that synthetics do have *some* emotion. Ash feels admiration for the alien, Bishop is capable of preference ("I prefer the term 'artificial person' myself") and Call obviously has a whole range of emotions. So it would make sense that Walter was able to feel an emotional attachment to Daniels.
I know the AVP movies are not truly connected to the main Alien timeline but I remember hearing about Kelly O'Brien might be an ancestor to Riply. Kelly even tells her daughter about how she used to have bad nightmare of monsters when she was younger. Could it be all connected?
It is something to chew on for sure. I mentioned her in the "Ripley's Ancestors" video but don't think I mentioned the nightmares...missed opportunity on my part, would have connected to this video better.
My theory is that maybe Ripley 8 could be why decker has a direct empathic link to the Xenomorphs, she was spliced with their dna over a hundred years ago after all. She had some kids and they got married and so on, continuing the bloodline until we meet decker.