the (only) flaw with spiderverse
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2019
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I disagree, the soundtrack definitely fits the film. Like I don't listen to any of the artists or genres featured but I felt that they couldn't have got a better way of representing Miles and his enviroment then what they did. Also sunflower is like the most radio worthy song and they literally use it for that purpose having him actually listen to it. Also blend of the score and soundtrack in the "leap of faith" sequence with "what's up danger" fucking works.
MrHappyJuice also the latin rap when he talks some spanish in the beginning
Just on point
I am In the same place I don’t listen to that stuff but the music really worked
I *LOVE* it when movies use a pop song and the composer decides to add to it with their score
Music is subjective and the based on his OPINION didn't fit well with the film HOW CAN YOU DISAGREE
T J Empire because e doesn’t know enough about that type of music and the type of people who listen to it
My only flaw with into the spider-verse...
*It wasn't longer.*
Couldn't agree more.
It could've been longer and if the pace was similar, you wouldn't be able to notice the time. Although the true flaws in Spider-Verse are the Action and the 3rd act final battle
Update: 3rd act is legit like Big Hero 6, the action could have been more creative like watch Kung Fu Panda and Incredibles... 3rd act is more gripping and energetic. And my biggest complaint is that the 3rd act is like the _beam in the sky finale_ but *indoors*
With a 90M budget, they could've gone all out with its action set pieces
Fucking FAX
I didn't want to to say it. I hoped someone else felt that way
There is actually 10 minute footage that didn't made it in the movie but are like fully animated and dubbed and that stuff.
Honesty, my only problem with spiderverse that Peni, Noir and Ham wasn't having so much time screen
Honestly. I thought Spider Ham would be annoying but he was actually very funny and enjoyable. Noir and Peni were as I expected them to act and that's not a bad thing
Peni was a surprise but I too wish they had more screen time.
I agree fully.
Agreed.
I also agree but it sort of makes sense. Peni, Noir and Ham are pretty out there characters compared to Miles, Gwen and Peter B. They are meant to add flavour and since they are so strong of characters with intriguing concepts it makes sense that they'd have less screen time to not distract from Miles's arc too much
Why don't make a "show don't tell" and change the songs in the key scenes to prove your point? Just saying "black panther soundtrack was better and this one was trash cuz it will not age well" I mean you can use this argument with everything, I believe the Black Panther will not age well in the future by the special effects and this movie no matter what people will rewatch at least to see the gorgeous animation.
I mean the Black Panther soundtrack had SZA on it so of course it’s better
I don't know if it is because I'm black and roughly around Miles age, but this is the kind of music we listen to? So the music makes sense to me...It's a combo of 90's hip hop sound with modern takes on the genre, which is what most black people listen to on rotation. To me the soundtrack and score slap harder then a hand to the face. This movie IS flawless to me.
True, but as a fellow black guy, I gotta say, it ain't just about us.
You're right, and to be honest, you'd be surprised to see how many non-black kids also listen to this type of music.
Overall, it's not even about black people type of music, but simply what kids today in GENERAL listen to. I prefer less rap and sexuality in my songs tho, so that's where I differ with other teens my age at 17.
Plus, this movie didn't really have that. It seems like a great, for all ages, smooth all around movie. Can't wait to see it in theaters! Or on disc or Netflix, which ever comes first!
Anyways, God Bless!
@@thalmoragent9344 I'm white and like the soundtrack
THANK YOU, finally someone who understands the point. It wasn’t for Brooklyn, it was because miles was black, and that’s the type of stuff we usually listen to.
olivia martinez idk im not black but im 14 and I use to live in new york and I feel like thats what I grew listening too, im in the streets and hear the faint bass of music plaging... ahhhh
Sacrificial but... I’m not black and I’m from new york and I can promise to its what they listen too, not just the black kiddos, I am spanish though soooo idk
My only problem is that he didn’t feel not so good
Hahahahhaah I just saw something very hideous! I looked in the mirror! But I am the best RUclipsr of this generation so it is all good! Thanks for you attention dear feel notz od
HAHAHAHAHAHA SO FUNNY
I think spider-man felt a little TOO good for my liking
kremit the frog I can’t like this comment cuz it’s at 420
yeah 0/10 he felt too good
To be honest sunflower fit the film so nicely idk what you’re on but ok...
WhyNotGaming nah bestie boys would be better, movies had put better music then spider verse
U are right why not gaming
FANTASTIC MAX it should be in gaming
He was saying it didn't fit because the pop songs ruined the feel of the vibe it was supposed to give off
NPC toby it fits miles character amazingly accurately
You somehow managed to make more arguments *against* your point.
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Shooting himself in the foot
Literally this video is the biggest L I’ve ever heard 😭
@@sketchycat6223 Not as bad as the animated fur video
I really liked the music in almost all the scenes, I mean... when he really became spider man, the music was really fitting? Right?
right on
derp media
Yeah! I don’t even usually like music like that but it was still such a cool scene to me.
What's up danger is my new fav song tbh
Everyone keeps saying the music is fitting but they don’t understand that he was trying to say that the songs were so different that like all the songs didn’t have a genre or something. Like he said, one minute you are listening to 90s style turntable hip hop and then you’re listening to a modern post Malone song that is completely different
I see where you're coming from - but I found these modern poppy songs less intrusive simply because they fit when they were played. Like, I recall most of the modern pop music being in a lot of the first act - specifically moments of Miles doing stuff as a teenager, in which they fit the style of a kid in school. But then, when we get the real stylish or exciting scenes, the soundtrack goes into that 90s turntable style or the incredibly tense original score. But correct me if I am wrong, I don't 100% remember which songs played when.
I can kind of agree with your point except for a few instances in the film. The main one that bugs me (spoilers) is when the world sees Peter Parker/ spider man has died and it's playing a little Wayne song it just felt so out of place and ruined an otherwise dramatic and quite important scene because it just isn't a good song imo and doesn't fit I ended up laughing out loud in the theatre on my first viewing
They fit during those scenes NOW because those are the type of songs that kids listen to NOW, but not in the future (hopefully).
agree!!!
agree
legolover8805 none of that music was pop
*The movie is FAR from perfect*
Why's that?
*the music*
Are you on something?
I feel like you’re ignoring the scenes that include the music you’re talking about. The scenes that had Aaron in it had more of an older sound to it while scenes following just Miles felt a little more modern.
I don’t know. I don’t even really listen to these genres but I liked the soundtrack.
Nah man it just works
Justin Y. First
I suspected this to be an imposter but was pleasantly surprised.
Todd Howard?
oh cool it's actually the real one this time
@@todbilegotgonbat3943 it's a joke reference
I couldn't disagree with you more. In my opinion music was one of the best aspects of this movie. It just fits Miles as a teenager. Putting oldschool hiphop into a movie about a teenager would contrast the narrative of his character.
KubaX it would also seen tacky
Does the music style have to be consistent. In order for the music to be........ fitting???
video essays nowadays are more based on the creators opinion with no real evidence to back up their claims than actual facts that can be backed up but ig
what i hate most nowadays is the sensationalism. titles like "why _____ is a cinematic masterpiece" or "why _______ is *adverb* *adjective*" like "surprisingly bad" or "awfully forgettable"
yeah thats whats called a "review". there's no such things as facts when talking about art.
@@Leo-ox1rd i think what they mean is just that a lot of video essays just present an opinion and can't really defend it or present anything that makes it appealing for the viewer to open their mind to this opinion and let themselves learn or be convinced. this video essay says there is a flaw with the movie, which means he has something technical or at least somewhat concrete to point out about the movie and then you realize it's just because he doesn't enjoy the genre of music chosen for the soundtrack, with little to explain how it is to the detriment of the movie or even a flaw...
there is no fact or evidence and sometimes not even objectiveness in art but there are still arguments, yknow? that's what i like to see, at least
@@lucse9898 except he didn't said that and his explanation was pretty clear. he didn't liked the soundtrack because it wasn't cohesive sonically. although the songs make sense lirically, the "licensed soundtrack" didn't match the original score that well and CAN (not will, can) become dated in the future. that does causes mood issues, that i personally think he did overexaggerated (i mean thats not THAT big of an issue), but are there. he didn't even dragged the genre, he literally said that there is musics of that same genre that would fit better. in the video he uses black panther (soundtrack with the same genre) as an example to how the original score can mix up well with "pop music", so his taste doesn't really have anything to do with this
also, in every video karsten ends up saying "yeah but thats my opinion see it for yourself and form your own". and i disagree with a lot of things he say, but i never really saw him express a poor vision of something.
i got your point on sensationalist youtubers, but i personally think they're actually minority, for what i saw. but who am i to say that, right?
@@Leo-ox1rd oh, no, i get it. i get his points. was just clearing up what i think the original commenter meant. i do think this video is not karsten's best at all but i am a big fan of his.
Eh if anyone complains about it being dated, we can just tell them it takes place in 2018.
That still is kind of a moot point though. In 100 years, people aren't really going to know what X is, or what Y is if it relates to much to being a period piece. That can make or break a movie as it ages. It's okay if there's a few references or has "dated" music as long as it's moderated.
@@ConeyDawg i dont think this movie will be seen as dated. Nothing in it kinda signifies needing to know current trends to understand what is going on. The music if anything will make it better in the long run as it will become nostalgic. However if a movie does focus on trends and in the know things it will definitely age horribly take Ralph breaks the internet for example. In 50 years people would look at some of those things like how people today look at the ask search engine or hotmail.
@@ConeyDawg but the problem is, then there’s no point in making this then. Nearly anything we make will be dated.
Comic book aesthetic, the concept of super heroes as we see them, popular music, these all change. I mean, how much western stories do we see on big screen?
Or how much Shakespeare style stories do the large audience see?
It’s not about ageing, it’s about making the now.
Yes, many things may last longer or may never age, but so what. That wasn’t there intention. They were created to be what the creator wanted and managed to withstand the test of time
Sounds like the real issue you have is that it's just not your favorite taste in music and you're tryna make it deeper than it really is
ANIBALtheANIMAL - ikr
It sometimes didn't fit with the sad moments I believe.
I thought the Lil Wayne song didnt fit with Peter's death
True lul
TheTopsGeek -Loquendo y Mas I thought it fit, but not a lot
I kind of agree/disagree, there are about two scenes where the music didn’t fit at all, you know the Lil Wayne song, that didn’t fit and felt forced. But the What’s up Danger scene is my favourite scene in the movie and it probably wouldn’t if it weren’t for the music.
I agree, plus ( *spoilers ahead* ) I really loved how you can hear a bit of the prowler's theme at the beginning of What's up Danger, showing how Miles was able to use the tragedy of his death to motivate him rather than let it become a reason to quit
CiCiDiaries wow I didn’t realise that while watching the film, that’s a really nice detail.
The Leap of Faith wouldn't have had half the impact it did without that glorious "CAN'T STOP ME NOW"
YES THIS IS NY FAV SCENE
I honestly think if would leave out the Lil Wayne verse, it would work. I think it fit the movie. The “Not Scares of the Dark” plays after Peter Parker dies, and it’s cool seeing Miles take responsibility when the song plays.
I agree every single piece of media in existence from citizen kane to ocarina of time has flaws and nothing is 100% perfect, but I REALLY have to disagree with one. this argument feels like you ranting on how you personally dont like the music, but this music simply works for the style and tone of the movie and the direction and characters in it.
post malone doesn't work
" I dont wanna come off as if I just dont like the music"
Yet you insulted all the artists whose songs you had a problem with. Listen man you just dont like the artists it's fine, but dont hide behinthe "objectivity" of these songs being "cash grabs" when you just dont like them
The music fit for me. I could see how all the modern pop/trap songs would be on Miles' playlist... It is his origin story after all. And about the 90s hip hop I'm pretty sure that only came on when he was visiting his Uncle Aaron which makes sense cause he's an older guy it even showed him playing it on Vinyl which to me doesn't represent Miles. He's a kid in middle school and I don't know if kids that age nowadays are into Biggie and Run the Jewels.
Jo S nah plenty of “born in the wrong generation” type kids prefer the old rap.
Yeah. And Miles really looks up to his uncle. It makes sense that he would get a little of his music taste from him
I'm sorry Karsten but I could not disagree with you more about this. To me it feels like the contrast between the beginning of the movie with its older fashioned turn tables. Because it was supposed to show that this was a previous Era of spider-man, with Peter Parker; that Miles was living through. And when the movie continues we hear more music that shows Miles's personality thats why we mostly only hear the pop songs when he is on screen. It's Miles's personality slowly taking over the movie. But its battling with the other personalitys of the movie I.E The other spider-men with their epic scores. That's why we end the movie on Post Malone because it shows Miles has grown into his own and has really taken over his dimensions role as Spider-Man. I dunno maybe i'm just reading into it
Edit: Thank you everyone for the likes.
Wow, perfect. I love it!
exactly what i thought, thats why i was so surprised when h mentioned the music. it just feels right because theres that shift from Peter Parker to Miles Morales
But we can all agree
The song at the end was epic
We can all agree that The Prowlers theme is the true greatest song yet
...
Spidey-Bells?
The strangest thing in this movie is that Miles didnt get suffocated while wearing his SPRAYPAINTED suit
Spider verse was worthy for best film of 2018
Nothing else to say
Well, let's get to the opposite of the "best film" which it's the Emoji Movie.
Still this is the best apology gift ever created by Sony Animation.
Lol
Maybe if there weren't so many great films under the radar
Friendship honestly, this is the best apology.
@@TheAvizanski into the spiderverse is under the radar
Surely the only flaw is not enough Tom Hanks
FilmThought uhhh tomorrow hanks isn’t in it
@@NINE-UP
That's....
The point...
Maluki Mbesa I woooooooshed myself
Chris Pine sounds like Tom Hanks.
Oof, never disagreed with you more
My only problem it it was too short. This is my favorite marvel film if not favorite film.
Blablabla yes it is.
@Blablabla it literally has spiderman in the title, and the first 2 minutes shows the MARVEL logo...
@Blablabla technically it is a marvel movie because the source is marvel
BUT
Sony made it
“Luke, I am your father..”
“NO, YOUR LYING”
*a sPoOn fUlL oF sUgAr mAkEs thE mEdiCiNe gO dOWnNNn*
I usually don’t disagree with you but I gotta on this one
Waynimations Spider-Man is overrated
@Andrew king no u
@@andrewking1468 no u
@@andrewking1468
Your profile pic is overrated.
Maybe spiderverse is. Idk
@@iman5147 i thought we were talking about the movie but k
Black Panther had better music? Are you high? What is wrong with Way up or Sunflower? It matches the movie so well. The movie fits well with 90s music but it doesn’t take place in the 90s
@bunny- boo same but I like Spider-verse's music more
Yes his point was wrong but to say black panther didnt have the supiero playist is something else
Spiderverese music was good but black Panthers was better
1. black panther did have better music, kendrick went hard (that's just my opinion though and i liked spiderverse's too)
2. I think more what he was saying was that the music in black panther was consistently a fusion of urban/modern with the african undertones, you'll notice that kings dead, all the stars and pray for me all have similar beats which was line the theme of the movie, while spiderverse kinda flipped back and forth between old and new. It didn't bother ME, but i think that was karsten's point
Paramedic! slaps harder than any song on spiderverse. Both soundtracks are good tho.
In my opinion having two different music styles in the film works because the character of miles is shown to have an appreciation for old 90s music and he lives in current times which gives it the perfect mix of character
I feel like since there are many different types of Spider-Man, so having different types of music makes sense
Exactly Since the spider people are so different they should have different music and scores based on their personality and differences
Spider-Man noir has the old noir detective jazz music, spider-Gwen has the rock music reference to her being in a rock band, and spider-ham has the looney tunes style music
I actually thought sunflower is a really good song for the movie
same
I think his point was that it doesn't really blend in with the rest of the sound track.
He’s more referring to other songs.
Hi leio
@@Skye_ranran was good
COMPLETELY disagree, I LOVED the soundtrack, but I have heard other people with your opinion so am not cutting it down, just disagree
title: *my (only) flaw with spiderverse.*
Karsten: *The music just isn't very good...*
literally the entire population of everything: _𝕋ℍ𝔼 𝕄𝕌𝕊𝕀ℂ 𝔽𝕀𝕋𝕊 𝕊𝕆 𝕎𝔼𝕃𝕃 𝕎𝕀𝕋ℍ 𝕋ℍ𝔼 𝕄𝕆𝕍𝕀𝔼 𝕎𝔻𝕐𝕄_
because it does omg the music is the best part
The music was perfect. The entire movie was a masterpiece. Sorry dude but you just sound really close minded and mad that they didn't have music you listen to.
The "Scared of the dark" and "What's up danger" tracks had me in tears cuz I felt the emotion through the songs, and those are definitely not my type of music.
Yep
I agree with everything you said. Totally not my style of music but I downloaded those two songs and listened to them like a thousands times. They fitted so well with the scenes.
The merging of an orchestral backing thing with “What’s up danger” felt emotional and very spider man-esque. Although “What’s danger” fitted Miles’s character the backing made it 10x more powerful and reminiscent of spider man. I think they did such a great job
True
I honestly thought the “leap of faith” scene incorporated the somewhat cliche superhero orchestra with a modern hip hop song very well, helping highlight Miles’ roots, as well as where his life was about to take him. Then again, that’s the only section that I vividly remember, so maybe you have more of a point. That scene on every level is my favorite of 2018, and I thought it could use some more love
Completely disagree, although not flawless the music was one of the better aspects of the film. The downside was definitely the weak antagonist in Fisk
HUH Clipz i think karstien should have distinguished between the orchestral score of spider verse and the SOUNDTRACK with songs by post Malone.... cause the actual orchestral score of spider-verse was fantastic. Also I agree this movie had a weak villain.
The downside was that the entire film relies on plugging in a flash dive.
i wouldn't say fisk is necessarily a WEAK antagonist (he has a fairly solid concept that could work very well when executed well), but more attention should have definitely been paid to his story and motivation to make him a more compelling and threatening villain. he felt underdeveloped despite the character's presence across many marvel universes and that was a point of frustration for me while watching.
@@shslmaidkin lemme pipe
Seems like people throw around terms like "weak villain" when they really mean "not as good as Heath Ledger's joker or Thanos or Killmonger". Fisk wasn't a weak villain. He just wasn't a main character in the film. He still got a backstory and motivation beyond just "i want to do evil things bc im the bad guy". His role in this film was to serve as the obstacle for Miles to overcome. The fact that he was built like a wall just demonstrates that even more.
Sunflower is a bop and should have been nominated for an oscar
The music was better then perfect. It was using sound effects for different characters, fitting the mood and feeling iconic to the movie
Well ye ok it’s not got a good mix or transition but shhhhh
The only problem was that there was a missed opportunity to reference Robots, the greatest film of all time. Miles should have said "Get up Offa that thing" when Peni appeared with her robot.
Underrated comment
Give this man a raise
Underrated
Oh my Gosh! Robots is amazing.
I literally don't agree with anything you said here, I think the music was flawless in and of itself, and I thought it matched this film *_perfectly,_* but you earned yourself a sub here. I enjoyed this video and respect your opinions.
Really, the makeover yeti (post Malone) makes flawless music? I would rather kill myself than listen to your music.
@@RevJ7 that's a bit extreme...can you not respect other peoples' personal music tastes? I liked every track in the soundtrack, except Sunflower, Scared Of The Dark and Home, which *loved.* My opinion dude...
@@georgelinford5576 Not when they're not respectable. It's bad music. The soundtrack was absolutely trash. Accept it, dude.
@@RevJ7 yo, whatever, you didn't like the music. I did. I'm not expecting everyone to have the same music tastes as me. I respect your opinion, but don't respect how you think that your opinion is factual. It's not. Opinions are opinions. I liked the music, you didn't. Whatever. You're wasting your time tryna make me 'accept' that it was bad. If you hate the music this much I wouldn't be getting invested in a dumb RUclips argument and stop thinking about. How about you go and have a listen to some music that you actaully like, rather than complaining about music that you don't like?
@@RevJ7 also, what bands *do* you like? I'm interested. Of course you don't have to reply if you don't want to.
Its not just music numbers that fill the soundtrack, the movie has very underrated orchestra parts that help convey the moment and scene.
What i find bad about the fandom:
They lewded spider loli...
It's funny cause I was the opposite. I HATED Black Panther's music and loved Spiderverse's score. I hated knowing everytime Killmonger was going to come up because the same theme (and part of said theme) played out when he was about to show like some sitcom or anime. I like'd Spiderverse's varied score/song choices to reflect what was happening at that moment or the environment. Like say Brooklyn's hip hop theme to the 'Im not Scared' song when shit got sad or the break in for the computer theme in Doc Oc's office. But Killmonger had one them and one theme only and best believe they played the same part of that theme as well because that's all it was apparently.
I like scores for anime like Attack on Titan and InuYasha a lot because certain people had many themes or a specific theme that varied depending on the environment or dire situation or emotion. Other good scores are Inception's score with varied themes for people or situations depending on the emotion (I can't think of many of the back of my hand)
I didn't mind having songs made by current artists in Spiderverse because they were played out appropriately. Lyrical songs were played at times where Miles was feeling a certain way and to express that the music did it for him (Sunflower at the beginning, I'm not scared when he was sad, and What's Up Danger when he finally got his shit together) but these songs where specific to the movie with it's lyrics its not like the movie literally snatched up a song right before it was released by the artist and put it in the movie *cough* all the stars *cough*
I do agree they could have had the score and soundtrack marry better like Tron's music was flawless and themed at the same time, Or Scott Pilgrim's music works well with the movie's theme because they're all PLAYING music (so smart!) But I just found it funny that I felt the same but with the opposite movie.
Totally agree, but did you just spell liked as like'd?
@@frightmurk846 most likely autocorrect. XD
@@Euphoria7705 Auto correct is most frequently typed words this man's been spelling it wrong for years
Your favorite hero must be Mr. Fantastic bc this video was a reach
belakthrillby oh that was good
Karsten, you should watch Sideways video on the music in Into the Spiderverse. He makes a really good case for the connection between the soundtrack, the score, and Miles as a character.
One reason I love this movie is because the kept the comic style to it
Seen the movie twice already. I do agree that the blend 90's east coast X Post Malone, perhaps, it's not ideal (but as we've seen, "Sunflower" is even used as a vessel in the script).
The key for me is that Miles is not just a teenager -- it's that he is an AFRICAN-AMERICAN teenager, wearing Air Jordans to school, listening to that music, that makes it work anyway.
spiderxx7 exactly as an African American myself I loved all the songs? I listen to the whole sound track without skipping any songs. It makes miles more relatable because he listens to what I listen too, I really love it
@@Zvwry exactly!! this is OUR spiderman we waited so long for a miles morales movie so if it was filled with the normal marvel hero music it just wouldnt be it. the east side hip hop and modern trap is what made into the spiderverse the movie so relatable to black teens.
oliver _ exactly I saw it with my dad and when Biggie started playing he liked it and when Scared of the dark started playing I loved it. The music fits with the setting (Brooklyn where I live) and the character! (A black boy growing up in one of the greatest places for hip hop to grow). The music fits with the movie, and if that makes it dated then we’ll know what the music of our time was like, which I’m fine with.
@@Zvwry i like that karsten brought up black panther because the score is so different from spiderverse. this score is something i'll remember as THE black spidermans' songs unlike black panther (no hate still a great movie) doesnt exactly stick with me that way. tho i'm not a new yorker i'm from baltimore and i can still see when my and my brothers would jam out to music just like this too.
oliver _ exactly the soundtrack doesn’t sound like a cop out. It’s genuine and makes the movie more inversive
Nah dude - sorry. It's perfect. The soundtrack slaps.
Slaps our mothers. Garbage like Post Malone and Juice Wrld need to stay the fuck out of kids movies and all movies. Bad music
@XQ DC it's pretty bad. Maybe your standards are low.
Cynima Rapscallion what year are you living? the soundtrack bangs stay mad cynima
@@RevJ7 show me where I asked
@@ZizzyBlack I'm going to start using that. "Show me where I asked?" Perfect!
The soundtrack is one my favourite parts
Yeah I just rewatched it tonight and honestly the music still works incredibly well
sorry Karsten this is a pretty stupid point
The only flaw is that it has no flaws
Except the garbage and generic soundtrack
Cynima Rapscallion garbage and generic soundtrack? lol sounds like you’re saying absolute bullshit just to say absolute bullshit.
@@RevJ7 the soundtrack is not generic if you compare it to Aquaman bcz they literally played the same song over and over again which is why I have to disagree with you sure some song were cheesy but it's just in that one scene
same lmfao
I do think Miles should have spent more time being Spider Man. He was able to do all sorts of insane acrobatics after only 2 days.
What I didn't like about the movie is that they added three characters and they didn't make them do anything relevant.
i mean, like, i fricking loved all the music tho
Ummm you already lost me...the music is one of the best parts of the movie people say what a great story visually beautiful amazing soundtrack...yeah no. Music is great and sunflower is awesome I’d be the first to admit I don’t get new age rap or postmalone but it works! It’s about a young kid in today’s culture! Why wouldn’t he listen to songs that are now happening you hear two older songs with his uncle cause he’s old school that’s why u hear them
Armando Castillo the story isn’t that good that’s why it’s not up there with The Godfather and if you it should then you don’t know what films are
I think the reason the music was so different was because it showed the emotion and mood of Miles as a teenager. Idk that’s just what I think
I’m not even a fan of modern hip hop, but even I can appreciate how fitting it is to the film’s tone.
You know your hungry for views when you are saying that a movie isn't that good just because of the soundtrack.
Me: Hmm some actual criticism on my new favorite movie! I'm definitely willing to hear him out and understand where he's coming from!
Karsten: I don't like the soundtrack.
Me: **Closes tab**
I’m not sure you’re 100% on the score thing. Go back and listen to the original score and you’ll notice the composer uses a more considerable variety of sounds aside from the boom bap record scratching turn table aesthetic; in fact, whenever that IS used it can easily be construed as a fusion between newer sounding hip hop and older 70’s to 90’s from tracks used for Gil Scott Heron to Grandmaster Flash to 808 beats used for 21 Savage and many many many...MANY others. It also blends sort of that fast paced jazzy sound I get from listening to an Incredibles soundtrack, and in songs like “Green Goblin Fight” or “Kingpin Clicks” or definitely “The Prowler”, you definitely get a sort of orchestral and ambient keyboard new age horror vibe. As for the newer songs like “Sunflower” added to the film, not only were there plenty of songs that were made for the movie that were of course made in either 2017 or 2018 (and you sort of picked Post Malone’s songs in that album because they’re clearly the most popular, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong about that), but while I understand your slight fear of the film becoming potentially dated, what’s stopping the 90’s sound from dating the movie? I mean, shit, those are definitely way older, so shouldn’t they date the film? If this movie was only composed of songs released in 2018, would you say it’s gonna be dated because it lacks that “retro” feel. It’s a blend of both is what I’m saying, and maybe before you say that’s inconsistent, again, look towards the actual score and you’ll see that there’s a blend. It fits. Feel free to prove otherwise though, and that goes for anyone that got this far into this comment. Thank you.
This was the only movie where both me and my sister came out and we immediatly went onto Spotify to download the soundtrack. Neither of us have done that for ANY movie and it was so refreshing that it wasn’t fully orchestrated or pop songs like many animated movies are.
One thing that was off in the movie was when miles met Gwen in school, their spider senses didn't go off.
Think that is what is wrong with the movie. Gwen claims that she went to vision high school since she senses something, but she haven't went through the colider till later that day. Evidence is that there are 5 distinct spideys flying out during the explosion.
So, either she went through earlier during their experiments and we're missing one more spidey or there is really something wrong with the story telling.
Only problem I have with your point is that you didn’t mention the orchestral score. At Mile’s leap of faith they mix the modern style with an orchestral score and DANG does it work.
But, I agree with the rest of your point. The other more cameo-y songs really break the mood at times. ESPECIALLY at the low points.
I agree! The mix of the two is amazing! Plus I really like how you can hear a bit of the Prowler's theme at the beginning of it ( *huge spoilers* ) which shows how Miles was able to use his uncle's death to motivate him rather than as a reason to quit
CiCiDiaries Wow i didn’t even catch that about the prowler theme. I’ll have to look for that next time I watch it. Thanks for pointing that out!
@@kaden.vasquez no problem! The sound is slightly altered to make it a little less eerie than the Prowler's regular theme, but nonetheless it's still the same basic sound. It's actually included in both versions of the song, so you can listen to it now on the soundtrack if you want
My only flaw is that it’s not _pizza time_
How to properly clean your metal computer pizza time🍕🍕🍕🍕
But it has the Spiderman 3 dance
bruh the soundtrack is one of the best things that worked in the film
The latin trap as soundtrack when miles is walking around his neighbourhood is just on point tho
*_While the Sam Raimi's version remained a classic for most standards, I think Uncle Ben should have played by Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield as the guy who killed him. This is an overall a perfect tribute._*
Reverse that and you got it right. Tobey was garbage and those movies were garbage
Cynima Rapscallion
Your crazy
I have seen you commenting the exact same thing in like 4 videos talking about spider verse man just stop
@@jovanym2931 Weird way to spell correct
Cynima Rapscallion
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Can't completly agree with this one. Yes there were 1 or 2 odd music choices, but that's about it.
The moment you said "run the jewelz" I totally got it
You can’t gag about X. That’s all a want to say.
Edit: I was trying so hard to not go on a tangent about that.
He can do what he wants
@@balake1879 I mean it pissed me off. I don’t not like him. He’s great
I feel like you exaggerate how prevalent the hip hop breaks/record scratches are as a piece of the spider-verse score. Outside of the orchestral and ambient work the majority of Spider-verse's score is a generalized hip hop sound. It has everything from scratchy break beats, to trap hi hats, and some light boom/clap stuff thrown in here and there. As for the soundtrack itself, the first act has a pretty fair balance of its "east coast classics" and the modern rap stuff mixed together, neither one or the other overwhelms the other until later acts exclude the 90s stuff completely. And almost all of the east cost stuff appears exclusively in scenes involving Uncle Aaron, which helps cement the idea that the modern stuff is Miles' music and the old school stuff is Aaron's. Heck, you could even argue that the one John Parr song that plays during the bus ride is meant to represent what Peter B. Parker is into, since the 70s/80s was his childhood.
I also think that a lot of your argument lies solely on the idea that the acknowledgement that this film utilizes modern rap artists for its line-up is enough to deem that the movie will be dated, despite the fact that the songs fit their purpose in film as thematic and dramatic sequence fodder and aren't entirely just there to be there for "the mood". Like, I don't think you could honestly tell me that the What Up Danger? sequence isn't going to be chilling and effective years and years down the road or that the scenes with Sunflower won't still capture that image of cutesy childhood innocence that Miles has before bearing the responsibilities as Spider-Man.
You don't really get into the meat of how the 90s rap fits thematically but the modern stuff doesn't. There seems to be a big chunk of your argument that just seems to be missing and it makes it hard to see these arguments as anything but a cover for the fact that you may just not like the soundtrack that much, but I am only assuming on that end so.
Dude... The music is lit af
Anybody else notice the sneak diss towards X? 😤
Man why he gotta do that
Itz Jxden your under every x comment saying he’s white the fuck
Because x isn't that good
@@derrickwoods1595 he really is good what you talking bout
@@user-tr5jk2kj6r X is a mumble rapper
It's amazing, and fits amazing, you're tripping
I totally see your point, but I think the music fitted to the movie. It doesn't have to mix. The different archetypes of music give it some sort of separation and the characters feelings were represented by it. When the movie is on speed, turntable style music plays. When Miles struggles, modern rap comes into play. XXX plays at the lowest point of Miles arc and it's really the saddest song in the whole soundtrack.
Which song and when in the movie?
Abou scared of the dark when everybody else goes to close the portal and he’s left alone and shouldn’t come
U forgot to mention that shrek is basically defined by its music *cough* *cough* smash mouth
Squrtle the turtle (cough cough) and Shrek is a perfect example of that working (cough cough) some might even say lightning in a bottle (cough cough) and there are a lot of films in which it doesn’t work cough cough and maybe it wasn’t worth the risk (cough cough) not every band is as iconic as smash mouth (cough cough)
Robert Mooring (cough cough) couldn’t agree more
SOME *cough cough* BODY
all star, that's it
To me, the different sides of the soundtrack are intentional- they represent miles (whos character is heavily deprived from his family and of Brooklyn- hence the hip-hop) and his spiderman persona (Something new, something that the ENTIRE POINT OF THE MOVIE IS THAT IT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE) it shows the duality between the two sides
I think that the juxtaposition of the 90s hip hop and the 2010 hip hop help renforce the contrasting the "vibe" of miles and Peter, now I havent seen it in a while but if I were to include it, I would include the 90s in scenes with the spider crew and 2010 in scenes with just miles, this would help emphasize the all important spider man story of a normal high schooler that just so happens to be a superhero. He is with this experienced group that (supposedly) does it full time. Knowing this it makes sense to put the more familiar style of 90s record scratches with the characters more familiar and less explored music with its more mellow sound with someone who is still exploring themselves, now again im not sure if they use music this way but it would be a good way to use it
I can’t even count how many white, middle-class dudes say “I love spider verse, but the music was definitely the worst part.”
How do you not see the racial or at least cultural bias that’s dictating your feelings towards the music in the movie?
Btw, the music absolutely DOES fit in with the movie. Miles is a modern, urban, lower class poc. This is the music he listens to... it’s his world. Therefore.... it fits.
I'm from New Hampshire, probably one of the whitest states in America, and almost no one I've talked to has made that argument. Most people I've talked to love the soundtrack. It's actually one of the most ongoing praise for the movie. And if someone doesn't like the music, they just don't like the music. They can't help that. No one can help what they like. There is no racial bias just because someone doesn't like rap, I'm sorry.
I agree with your last statement though. The soundtrack definitely does fit in the movie and I honestly love it.
Jonathan Russell this is the only guy I’ve ever heard have this opinion. I don’t think it’s because of race.
Everything has to be about race and fitting in categories
Miles definetly isnt lower class,Moms a nurse and dad's a cop and has a decently sized home for living in New york
He isn’t saying he doesn’t like the soundtrack but it doesn’t fits
This is the first time im disagreeing with u
The soundtrack is amazing and didn’t feel out of place for me while watching the film. But everyone has their opinions.
Not gonna lie, the scene where like jumps off the tall ass building and plummets with that music matched so perfectly for me I got CHILLS and was smiling so hard
*_this movie is flawless_*
No, It really isn't.
@@ajani-lamar-_-3712 it's a bad movie
@@nixonstand84 I wouldn't call it bad, but it's not flawless.
@@ajani-lamar-_-3712 in my opinion it's bad hopefully someone talks about it being generic and not original.
@@nixonstand84 How is it not original?
Sorry man. Other older movies with the same "flaw" exist and are still great. Eg Shrek
*SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME*
You shut up about Shrek's soundtrack.
He didn't say it made the movie bad he still believez the movie to be the best animated film of 2018
That’s some... good singing you got there. A voice of an angel.
the “what’s up danger” scene was stunning though 🥺🥺
My only issues are with the music as well, but nowhere to your extent. There's only two songs that I don't feel work and it's only the vocal sections of those songs that pulled me out of the scene, everything else worked.
Not really feeling this video my guy. And that x joke was a low blow so issa dislike
Why tho
What's wrong with the X joke?
@@raphaellages3454 Its blatant disrespect. Feel however you want about the dude, but in a video talking about the soundtrack for a movie, maybe disrespecting an artist who is no longer here shouldn't be implemented. Id much rather prefer a clear and concise alternative video on the subject of Why it seems he doesn't like X vs A blatant low Blow that shouldn't even be there. Like I previously said feel however you want about X, I however feel that the joke was completely unnecessary.
No one:
Literally no one ever:
Karsten: aNiMaTeD fUr
The way they did the music in this film reminds me of anime and how their tracks are memorable and not the same throughout.
You will have no flaws with Nacho Libre. Please review it it’s really good!
The only flaw about Nacho Libre is that the main character always lost in each game (even with a fight with a stranger when he gets a date with a nun). That way, it frustrates me as well as the main character himself yet it's a part of the story.
He finally succeeded after the final fight.
Were you on his last livestream commenting this?
Uhhhhhh.... maybe....
Saltybenniboi realised how stalker-y my comment was
No way that movie would’ve seen the light of day if it was made today 😅
Music works well thou, in my opinion i think the flaw is not enough character development. I didn't feel anything except excitement from seeing Spider-Man.
This movie’s soundtrack is one of my favorite soundtracks in movies. I love these songs and I think they really fit the movie well. Also 2 parts. Scared of the dark and what’s up danger played at the perfect timing in the movie to fit the mood of the event and sunflower represented miles and the environment very well.
That bit of singing at the end was almost as good as spidey bells
“I disagree STRONGLY!”
the only song on the soundtrack should've been your rendition of "i'm just a kid"
Dude what? This movie had one of the best soundtracks in a LONG time. This is one of the few movies EVER where I went to RUclips once I finished watching to get the full soundtrack and re-listen to the songs. It was unbelievable
I’m disappointed, Sunflower is such a banger and it fits so well. It’s gold.