Orangery Renovation Application is in! | Queen's Escape
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- We share with your our plans for the Orangery and all the thoughts that went into that, and we ready the chateau for the winter cold with new warm duvets and initiating the heating system. Woo-hoo!
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Karen & Bo
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Your ramp would be good for caterers getting food trollers up into the building too. Or chairs/tables etc. Well done you two.
Gosh, I hadn’t thought about caterer trolleys in a while. Thanks.
A flat roof notoriously has more issues related to water. I personally prefer the appearance of the elevated arched roof lines. These are exciting projected upgrades to your orangery.
No offense but it’s about Restauration of one of the many French monuments and not what is best for you
Yep. The arched roof is more in keeping with the architectural style, so we’ll do that bc that is what’s approved.
It’s actually only about what’s best for us as it’s our private home. Luckily we also wish to stay true to the heritage as much as we can afford to, so I think we’ll find a good balance.
Congratulations on completing and submitting the plan! Go Tribe!
Thanks for sharing your plans!
How nicely Bo taught you how to bleed radiators. I hope that many men watch these videos and learn from Bo. 😊
I tap on the side, and not the pin itself, to avoid damage on the pin...
That’s smart.
One toilet won’t be enough if your planning on have crowds of people of over 100 people.🇦🇺🙋♀️
having worked at the zoo which can have crowds of more than 5000 people I can tell you that it is enough yes they will have to cue just like other people not using the disabled people have too also.
You’re right!
2 bathrooms per 99 people is okay.
The plans look great. I’m wondering if you are planning on weddings for 100 people if you might need more bathrooms.
It is 2 bathrooms per 100 legally. I thought the same, but the architects said this was fine. Maybe we can also do a urinal, although the men never seem to have a line, do they.
🍎 Karen and Bo,
Beautiful, sunny day! Literally!
About your nice white sheets. I must tell you I don't like white sheets because it reminds me of hospital beds and a funeral! This goes back as far as when I was a child! It's not only depressing, but upsetting! So if we would rent one of your beautiful rooms, trust me I would have to bring our sunset yellow sheets or blue green sky sheets, because those colors wake you up and make you feel like dancing all the way to the kitchen for a hearty delicious breakfast! Why in the name of God as my grandmother would say when something didn't make sense to her, that you would slave yourself to iron white sheets that people are so tired in the evening, they really don't care that you should choose uplifting and sunset colored sheets. Not to mention if you continue to iron so much, in the long run it's the worst thing you can be doing for your bones and muscles in your fingers as it can lead to rheumatoid arthritis because of the steaming and the ironing. If we should have a bed and breakfast, it definitely won't be white sheets because of the heat of ironing them that affects the body, that you are already getting in your neck because of too much heat that you absorb through your fingers that can affect your nervous system. Your guests will probably show up in time for breakfast because they're in a better mood because of the beautiful, colorful sheets that you really need to have and donate all those white sheets! Speaking about breakfast, some people are not hungry or have a very late breakfast like we do, that we consider brunch because it's past breakfast. So my thought is, check with your guests if they want to eat breakfast at your table or take breakfast with them. If they choose to take it with them, then it's less work for you to clean up. That's what we would request if we rented a room with you, as we also love to have our breakfast alone until we can wake up and in a more talkative mood. Link below is for wrinkle free sheets that you can get on Amazon so you don't have to slave yourself to iron them and it can really affect your nervous system from the heat of the ironing.
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The Orangery is a gorgeous building the windows are stunning , it be a good project to get setup and running . Funny I saw the black soot on your lip 😂I was saying Karen o u have soot on your face , pleased u saw it on the camera 😂. The radiator s seem to be a tricky thing in most people's Chateaus they either playing up , not working , or just some are working .
Hello over there, it seams to be a cold winter in France this year.........
I was thinking that the expense of the elevated roof though more expensive initially might save you both headaches, money and downtime if it is less susceptible to leaks. In my experience flat roofs are a nightmare!
I enjoyed all these details and your various plans!
A flat roof wont look good next to the beautiful building.
I found storing spare duvets pillows etc in vac bags very successful 😊
If you give the ramp a ballustrade similar to the chateau and make it curved rather than straight, it will look like it grew there.
Just for future discussion for an elevator at t5he chateau maybe create a forth tower which would also add symmetry to the building. Could you submit both roof styles at the same time for approval so you dont have to go back at a later time to alter it ?
We went with the arched roof as our architects were certain the flat would be dismissed.
Architect here. Codes are foolishly blind. A handicapped entrance to the Orangery is ridiculous. Put it in the back so you don't see it. Or, put a lift in the back and don't ruin the front of the building.
A good idea to put the bathrooms and wheelchair ramp a the back.
They are literally destroying one of the cutest and best well kept Orangeries with this horrendous plan 😢
@@N0N4M30 Agreed! Most unfortunate.
There is no back of the building as the back is up against the cliff, so it will be the side.
Building is built into the cliff, so it will be on the side.
Bidding for the regular routes
Like your plans for the orangerie…I prefer the look of the pitched roof. Re the toilet plans …is 1+1 disabled enough for 100 people ? I prefer the idea of a lift. …altho with hydraulics ..what happens if they don’t function? But that would leave more space for another toilet if required. .I no ….money , money money..sorry
Yes, you get it. 😊
Elevator in the chateau !?? You must be kidding !! I hate when people come to France buy a week kept chateau with most it’s original features only to come in and bulldoze it down
This should be illegal and probably is!
I replied in your second comment. But per the elevator, it’s a sensible decision IF we ever do it. Some people struggle with our stairs and some can’t even do that. While you may like the ‘idea’ of the old wooden servant staircase, people are important and should be considered. It’s not a done deal, so don’t lose any sleep over it. Many years off if we do it at all.
Love your William and Mary sweatshirt. My brother went to law school there. Williamsburg, Virginia is so much fun!
I grew up near there. 😊
I would like to recommend for your handicapped visitors' parking,as I have gradually progressed from just mildly disabled to extremely impaired. As I have experienced this long distant handicap parking area. If you could move it closer to the ramp. Someone on a walker is not up to walking this long distance. Please consider this. As always, the plans you have are great.
This is very much on our mind, also as our family members get older.
4:57 I’m sorry but this is actually horrible and disgraceful what you’re doing to this beautiful stunning orangerie and I don’t think this is allowed ! You’re destroying not only the craftsmanship of the man who build the place but you also forever change the landscape and destroy a monumental well kept orangerie of the Patrimoine de France
Now. Now. There are plenty of authorities in place to assure the heritage of the building is maintained. We don’t consider wheelchair access illegal. In fact it’s quite the opposite. And adding bathrooms in a style that compliments the building is hardly destructive. It, also, is legally required. Renovating this beautiful building with care and respect for its original design is the only thing that will allow it to continue to be enjoyed by people in the years to come. The alternative is allowing it to fall to ruin which would truly be a crime. Rest assured the French authorities in regard to monument historique are at the helm. 😊
You know what your vidéo reallynhelped me with my heating
Did it?
A lift could break down and leave guests unable to get up or down. A ramp has far less complications possible and can be utilized for many purposes.
We wanted the ramp but the French government said NO bc it won’t look good next to this old building. It’s too bad for the reasons you expressed, but we understand.
Your plans look well thought out. Having a husband now in a wheelchair 🦽 has brought my attention to how buildings have adapted for accessibility to everyone. Another great and informative video. Deborah USA❤❤😊😊
Karen, see if you could get some vac bags for storing the duvets. It takes up less space. The ramp is an excellent idea.
I just saw those 2 days ago on QVC and was wondering… 😊
I have to say as i wish you the best.
Id run in the opposite direction. Will the opportunity to profit enough to warrant all the costs and major headaches is left to be seen
We won’t take on more than we can comfortably afford. The bathrooms will open up possibilities for the Orangery, but we aren’t dependent on the profits to survive. It will be a great improvement for any activities held there, so we are excited.
Flat roof on bathrooms is definitely not attractive.
Nope
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Hi. Disabled viewer here. A ramp never malfunctions, hydralics do.
We wanted the ramp. The French government said No. darn.
@@queensescape merde! Sgu!
You two are a strong team! Keep up the great work!
That’s nice if you to say.
Well you can certainly see the amount of effort you have put into the bathroom, parking scenarios. If you are considering this as a destination venue, you flat out need more toilets and sinks. You have to consider the (LONGEVITY) of your project, and the chateau in years to come. Limiting this for 2 toilets may be a no go for many potential guests. What if one toilet breaks, or both. Limiting this to two toilets could sabotage the project. Bo, when travelers get off an airplane at the airport, first thing they do is head straight to the bathroom, and there is always a line. It would be the same for any customers, regardless of disability, especially bringing them in on a bus. Gender specific is always best. Any potential brides, this would impede them getting ready as well. There needs to be a holding transition room and I did not see any type of kitchen sink areas for caterers. Maybe consider enlarging to the back wall of the orangery. The ramp could be useful for caterers however, if people are in line for the bathroom, it will not work. I would consider some type of cover over the ramp area, if it is raining, or too hot of a day. Additionally, drinks on terrace, that is too far for a guest with mobility issues getting back over to the ramp. Consider the other side of the chateau, another route. I would rent a wheelchair and push each other for real trial run.
Lots of good info. Thank you.
@@queensescape Your very welcome! This past summer, (we have been installing a yard) in our new home. I overdid it one week, hurt my back. It spread to my leg and arm. A very miserable week. Could barely walk (needed a cane) and unable to lift my left arm. I think that is why I thought mobility issues. Lucky for me it only lasted about a week. But a week I will never forget. You got this!
Lifts can easily break so the ramp makes more sense.
I'm thinking a pitched roof would help to shed rain and possibly snow. Not sure how much precipitation you receive in your area so that would be a concern. A flat roof tends to eventually leak.
This space is already spectacular and with the changes it will be stunning
As it is a historic site you will be sensitive regarding the environment and the overall look. A flat roof is not ideal, as it will not look great as in fitting in, plus a flat roof will only last 20 years. There will be storage space in a pitched roof for WC paper, cleaning stuff etc etc, which is practical. It is good that you talk with architects and maybe have a look at what other château owners have decided in a similar situation. You are working hard, as per usual! Wishing you well.
Karen & Bo, I’m so excited for you with the plans for the orangery! Getting an architect takes the pressure off in knowing regulations are met while being respectful of your historic chateau. I can imagine a romantic wedding there and the photos with the chateau and orangery shining as the focal point (without cars obscuring the view!) The way you approach your progress with the big picture in mind is so lovely to watch. I’m off to check my radiators now! Hope you’ve recovered well too.
❤❤🎉Great plans Karen and Bo. You are going above and BEYOND 😊
Re the ramp. @1:56. I have a better idea, Instead of having an external lift, why not place the lift inside in rear of the central hall, where it's inside and protected from the elements and have the wheelchairs exit under the building On the path that goes under the main staircase, straight to the front.
That way people have shelter from the elements while waiting for the lift. Also works for catering.
The ramp as designed is huge and not fitting with the orangery style. This plan hides the mechanics, keeping full historical value of the orangery.
All elevators must have a yearly servicing. Elevators exposed to the elements as you currently have will not have a long service life, and high repair costs.
And for a lift, use a pneumatic elevator, not a cable lift as they are extremely noisy, and pneumatic are silent.
The room under the staircase is not a hall that accesses anything. It’s a very old stone enclosure with HUGE stones above and all around. Otherwise, loved your idea. The ramp won’t happen due to lack of French government approval, so a covered lift is what’s next.
Hello. Can’t the disability parking space be on the right with the other cars and you can do a valet service for them.
We don’t have the manpower to do a valet service, so no, I don’t think so.
But also, legally, no. 😊
In France, what is the minimum # of bathrooms required for occupancy of 100 for orangey? I would think 4 stalls .. or get portable bathrooms on trailers
2 is what’s required per 99 people (according to our plan)
How exciting it all is.
You have good taste so I am sure it will all be lovely.
In my experience, flat roofs can become a problem with rain.
Good luck with it all 😊
Yep. You’re right.
You'll need at least two stalls each for ladies and gentlemen lavoratories as well as a separate hanicapped- accessable stall in each lavoratory.
We are required to have 2 and I think we’ll make them both handicapped accessible. I’d opt for more too. 😊
Doesn't the accessible parking need to be within 5 meters of the building? Put it over by your circle that is the accessible for the pumper access and the fosse.
Parking does not need to be closer than it appeared in the drawings. Fosse, yes, very close.
@@queensescape Putting it closer would make it more accessible to the handicapped
Your parking plans are not what travelers would be comfortable with at all. They want to see their vehicle from where they stay and not walk more than 20 ft with or without luggage. Also more restrooms needed.
The parking plan and restrooms were approved. The parking cannot be closer as the landscape does not allow. But perhaps some lighting and other security can be arranged. 2 bathrooms is legal for 99 people.