After watching your video I think I'll hold off on the supermoto tires and wheels. I think I'll get the proline holeshot tires for the Vitavon wheels I have.. after I wear them down offroad I'll run them as onroad tires.. the taller tire and wheel set I think is the key.. 👍👊😎 Thanks for making the great videos Earl..
Cool, I think your set of videos on the bike have been the best I have seen, thanks good information, be interesting to see the front street tyre as well when it comes in.
Hi earl,wondering if you can super glue a thin piece of nylon plastic between chain and upper swing arm to protect it fromchain wear and you wouldn't worry so much on chain stretch.
Definitely punchier on 3S, but I can tell you rarely were on full throttle. I don't own one of these things, but it looks like a bearing supported chain tensioner could be easily fabricated. It also looks like it would benefit from having a more rigid set of training wheels - maybe even with a spring that will allow it to pivot slightly. I also think that a longer rear swing arm to stretch the wheelbase might be a hot ticket as well. I'm sure we'll see tons of hop ups for this thing soon. Cheers!
I’ve been following all your experiments and loving the findings that you have shown especially with 3S. I have been thinking about all the Gyro discussions here and some research of my own and I think there are at least 3 things going on here and the term Gyro is confusing things. If what I’m about to say is incorrect, then please someone let me know. I believe there are 3 Gyros working on this fantastic RC motorcycle. The first one that gets most mention is the Mechanical Gyro that you turn on and it gets spinning up real fast to stabilize the bike (mostly to keep it upright). The second is an electronic gyro built into the SR6300PM receiver for steering. The third is an electronic gyro for throttle control also part of the receiver. So a breakdown of the 2 electronic gyros 0:03 : Notice when you turn the steering left the wheel goes right? This gets the bike to lean left like the real thing. But after that in order to keep the lean in the turn you need help from the steering gyro. It helps keep the desired turn and from leaning over to far. The second electronic gyro is for street and wheelie mode. Dirt mode is gyro off since there isn’t a lot of grip for the front end to come up. When in street or wheelie mode the electronic gyro limits / takes over the throttle control as long as throttle is above the desired speed to achieve the angle. For example: in street mode the throttle cuts a bit so the front end doesn’t come up but optimized acceleration and in wheelie mode there is a set angle the bike is allowed to go to and the throttle is regulated to maintain that angle. What I’m not sure of is if that angle is factory set and or adjustable. If the static balance point angle is set in theory you could do slow or fast wheelies. They would both ride at the same balance point. More experiments needed. I was reading the manual for the SR6300PM receiver and there was both Gain and Priority settings. Not sure how to configure all that at the moment. There is also a way to update firmware as they come available. This is a feature packed RC that’s yet to be fully understood! Keep up the great videos! Thank you, Jasen
Generally that is considered a chain guide.... However without it being fully enclosed it can't be guiding the chain from falling off the inside of the sprocket 😅
I feel that the chain guard also acts as a chain guide to put the chain back on the sprocket with as little slop is possible to keep the chain from coming off.
@@earlmoorhead5555 definitely something to keep an eye on, because once the chain starts to wear out and get side slop, it may come off in a left-hand lean eventually. How many batteries down-the-line? They need to design the rear tire to tighten the chain like an actual motorcycle that would solve the problem of chain tension.
I think a rim that is 1/4" taller and a wider tire that actually has a lip on it would be the easiest fix. I imagine Losi will release a V2 and pro moto GP in the future.
I took my chain guard off and where it screws in a was able to fit a belt tensioner from a SAB goblin helicopter and now the chain stays tight. Just a heads up
Do you have the BT2000 card for the ms6x controller? I have just put the BT module in and read the settings from the controller and now all the end points and AUX channels are messed up. I dont know what the default settings are for this bike. Do you have a video or any help?
I think it's stupid the street tires are so much smaller than the dirt tires! You are loosing top speed with smaller tires and they are causing clearance issues as well. I think it might be better to wear out the dirt tires like the hobby shop did and run those for speed runs. Also, have you talked to a local bike shop about replacement chains or perhaps shortening them once they stretch out? They may have chains that could hold up better than stock ones. It's definitely not cool they are stretching out that quickly.
My chain has only stretched and needed adjusted twice in 16 packs...my rear tire is bald n I lube it EVERY pack....if you don't keep up with lube they will keep stretching...you have buy feet of the chain with master links online cheap also 🤙
Thanks! Smaller sprocket? Do you have a link? Also, the left side motor cover there's an air duct. Remove the small duct cover (1screw) and air flows to your motor. Temperature test?? Great videos!👍
I will be trying this spur gear 32 pitch 59 axial idk how much the chain can support right now waiting on the rear sprockets to come out for now I’ll play with the three gear set up
@earlmoorhead5555 i got both still in the box i went to my local hobbie shop they got 15 on pre order. Horizon back order is October 23 of this year so i guess they only going to have so many distributed to sell.
Yes I’ve been telling ppl to check there local shops as they might be to far down on the list to receive one before Dec so better to find a shop selling them
@@earlmoorhead5555 yeah I seen that! The world is getting crazier now days! Loving the videos and all the content you cover! Your in-depth videos definitely help the r.c. Hobby in so many ways that most don't want to cover! Stay safe my friend and r.c. on! 👍👍👽😎👽🛸🤟🤟
@@Rckid28 everything being built but for me I just have a machine shop build what I need for speed if I can’t get it now nice thing about racing real cars for years and being sponsored but kennybell superchargers easy to make one off prices 💯
Earl on one of your last videos post you put white elbow pads on your promoto man and responded how you got those from your local hobby shop - no one in my area (hobby shop) Carries these bikes so could you please provide name address & phone number to shop I’d like to order 3 of those for my 3 bikes please
I shared the phone number In The video with the elbow pads as there not out yet but will be in multiple colors but here the goggle map link to the hobby shop again 👍
After watching your video I think I'll hold off on the supermoto tires and wheels. I think I'll get the proline holeshot tires for the Vitavon wheels I have.. after I wear them down offroad I'll run them as onroad tires.. the taller tire and wheel set I think is the key.. 👍👊😎 Thanks for making the great videos Earl..
Hopefully they get their issues resolved cause ima keep holding back till they do 🤨🤨🤨. Thank you Earl for continued efforts on issues 👍👍👍
Cool, I think your set of videos on the bike have been the best I have seen, thanks good information, be interesting to see the front street tyre as well when it comes in.
Slowly getting it dialed man love the out-ro footage with all the different terrain's ,definitely looks like a blast to drive
Proline and losi need to get together and solve the chain guard issue. The tires need to be taller
Yes since horizon own both companies you think it would have been solved 😮
@earlmoorhead5555 yes . But they will listen if enough people write emails .
@think2cre81 maybe I know they watch RUclips video on it to make changes as they have contacted me on some of my videos 😱
@@earlmoorhead5555 that's good to know . I will write to them . And let you and your subscribers know what they tell me . Stay cool 😎
The tire on the rear is a street tire which is smaller than the stock tire and lowers the rear and allows it to rub on the chain guard.
Loving all the testing and tuning👍
This bike is so cool. Oh man, this Year will get worst.... I need more Jobs 😅😂
Hi earl,wondering if you can super glue a thin piece of nylon plastic between chain and upper swing arm to protect it fromchain wear and you wouldn't worry so much on chain stretch.
Boom epic Earl 🎉
Definitely punchier on 3S, but I can tell you rarely were on full throttle. I don't own one of these things, but it looks like a bearing supported chain tensioner could be easily fabricated. It also looks like it would benefit from having a more rigid set of training wheels - maybe even with a spring that will allow it to pivot slightly. I also think that a longer rear swing arm to stretch the wheelbase might be a hot ticket as well. I'm sure we'll see tons of hop ups for this thing soon. Cheers!
Yes longer swing arm would be good for drag and speed runs
Best Rc content 10/10 Thanks brother 🙏
Definitely appreciate your support 🔥
All right all right!
Second run of the pit bike on3s Earl Moorhead good job work pit bike,💯👍👍👍👍👍👍🍻
good video as usual can wait to see what you find is up with the steering
You and me both!
So definitely the taller tire is better with the chain guard. But I still love how it handles .I saw that custom guard , it looks good 👍
I’ve been following all your experiments and loving the findings that you have shown especially with 3S. I have been thinking about all the Gyro discussions here and some research of my own and I think there are at least 3 things going on here and the term Gyro is confusing things. If what I’m about to say is incorrect, then please someone let me know. I believe there are 3 Gyros working on this fantastic RC motorcycle. The first one that gets most mention is the Mechanical Gyro that you turn on and it gets spinning up real fast to stabilize the bike (mostly to keep it upright). The second is an electronic gyro built into the SR6300PM receiver for steering. The third is an electronic gyro for throttle control also part of the receiver. So a breakdown of the 2 electronic gyros 0:03 : Notice when you turn the steering left the wheel goes right? This gets the bike to lean left like the real thing. But after that in order to keep the lean in the turn you need help from the steering gyro. It helps keep the desired turn and from leaning over to far. The second electronic gyro is for street and wheelie mode. Dirt mode is gyro off since there isn’t a lot of grip for the front end to come up. When in street or wheelie mode the electronic gyro limits / takes over the throttle control as long as throttle is above the desired speed to achieve the angle. For example: in street mode the throttle cuts a bit so the front end doesn’t come up but optimized acceleration and in wheelie mode there is a set angle the bike is allowed to go to and the throttle is regulated to maintain that angle. What I’m not sure of is if that angle is factory set and or adjustable. If the static balance point angle is set in theory you could do slow or fast wheelies. They would both ride at the same balance point. More experiments needed. I was reading the manual for the SR6300PM receiver and there was both Gain and Priority settings. Not sure how to configure all that at the moment. There is also a way to update firmware as they come available. This is a feature packed RC that’s yet to be fully understood! Keep up the great videos!
Thank you,
Jasen
If you bind it to a DX5C you can control the throttle cut and steering cut in the end I’ll be binding to a DX5C before a speed test run
Everything seems to be coming good. But that tyre is definitely too small. But eventually they'll have everything we need .
Generally that is considered a chain guide.... However without it being fully enclosed it can't be guiding the chain from falling off the inside of the sprocket 😅
Earl how about moving the boot on the peg foward..about a .25 of a inch from the front of the boot...I did it and it works.
I feel that the chain guard also acts as a chain guide to put the chain back on the sprocket with as little slop is possible to keep the chain from coming off.
Possible let see if it will fall off without it on more battery packs 🧐💯
@@earlmoorhead5555 definitely something to keep an eye on, because once the chain starts to wear out and get side slop, it may come off in a left-hand lean eventually. How many batteries down-the-line? They need to design the rear tire to tighten the chain like an actual motorcycle that would solve the problem of chain tension.
@@earlmoorhead5555 possibly, just a guesstimation on my part. 👍
It's just a chain guide on the 1:1
Thanks!
Appreciate your continued valued support 💯🔥
Maybe the stering servo is stressed,you should get the bt and adjust the servo travel😊
I think a rim that is 1/4" taller and a wider tire that actually has a lip on it would be the easiest fix. I imagine Losi will release a V2 and pro moto GP in the future.
I took my chain guard off and where it screws in a was able to fit a belt tensioner from a SAB goblin helicopter and now the chain stays tight. Just a heads up
Should put front wheel on cos it will lower your centre of gravity cos supermoto wheel smaller than mx wheel
Do you have the BT2000 card for the ms6x controller? I have just put the BT module in and read the settings from the controller and now all the end points and AUX channels are messed up. I dont know what the default settings are for this bike. Do you have a video or any help?
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I think it's stupid the street tires are so much smaller than the dirt tires! You are loosing top speed with smaller tires and they are causing clearance issues as well. I think it might be better to wear out the dirt tires like the hobby shop did and run those for speed runs. Also, have you talked to a local bike shop about replacement chains or perhaps shortening them once they stretch out? They may have chains that could hold up better than stock ones. It's definitely not cool they are stretching out that quickly.
My chain has only stretched and needed adjusted twice in 16 packs...my rear tire is bald n I lube it EVERY pack....if you don't keep up with lube they will keep stretching...you have buy feet of the chain with master links online cheap also 🤙
motocross chain lobe works great
How the hell didn’t they notice the chain guard hitting 😅 that’s like… step 1 for R&D
Cause it's a dirt bike doesn't hit with stock tires
Would adjusting the rear shock pre load help to stop it grounding out?
No as from the sprocket to the ground won’t change only will help anything on the body not rub
Thanks! Smaller sprocket? Do you have a link? Also, the left side motor cover there's an air duct. Remove the small duct cover (1screw) and air flows to your motor. Temperature test?? Great videos!👍
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I will be trying this spur gear 32 pitch 59 axial idk how much the chain can support right now waiting on the rear sprockets to come out for now I’ll play with the three gear set up
Appreciate the support
I looking to trade1 of my losi bike for a used stock xmaxx
That would be a good trade xmaxx tend to hold value don’t know how well the bike will 👌
@earlmoorhead5555 i got both still in the box i went to my local hobbie shop they got 15 on pre order. Horizon back order is October 23 of this year so i guess they only going to have so many distributed to sell.
Yes I’ve been telling ppl to check there local shops as they might be to far down on the list to receive one before Dec so better to find a shop selling them
Xmaxx rules but the xrt is awesome too. Erevo and sledge are crazy fast. I guess you just have to get one of everything 🙂
@nobody617 I got a new traxxas sledge yesterday I'm not a basher just streets and grass driving a little road gravel as well
For the elbow pads they make zip ties that small. You might be able to substitute for them.
Yes if and when it break 👌
Good idea. Just put 3 or 4 in a row on each elbow. Should hold up pretty good
Somebody send this man a small pit mat! Don't want to see the paint getting scratched! To nice of a car!
When they smashed the brick threw the window three days ago I need to repaint the car now
@@earlmoorhead5555 yeah I seen that! The world is getting crazier now days! Loving the videos and all the content you cover! Your in-depth videos definitely help the r.c. Hobby in so many ways that most don't want to cover! Stay safe my friend and r.c. on! 👍👍👽😎👽🛸🤟🤟
@randyseaver8319 thank you to
Is there a master link on the chain so you can cut some links out or grind the pins and replace them then narl them over 👌👍👊
Nope
Trouble with the pro moto! Noooooo!! 😅
If you already play on 3s, you wont comeback to 2s again? Im still using all stock, with 2s.. :-)
Maybe put the stock tire back on
Yes
Can it run without the gyro
It can it’s very unstable
Oooo OK I was wondering 🤔 that
Who makes a smaller sprocket? 20:59
Hot racing
@@earlmoorhead5555 I see a 36 but nothing smaller 🤷🏼♂️ how u going to shorten the chain?
Extend the swing arm
@@earlmoorhead5555 both of thoes don’t exist 🤷🏼♂️ or are you just hoping for Somone to release? What am I missing?
@@Rckid28 everything being built but for me I just have a machine shop build what I need for speed if I can’t get it now nice thing about racing real cars for years and being sponsored but kennybell superchargers easy to make one off prices 💯
Get an xmaxx first guys. 🙂
Earl on one of your last videos post you put white elbow pads on your promoto man and responded how you got those from your local hobby shop - no one in my area (hobby shop) Carries these bikes so could you please provide name address & phone number to shop I’d like to order 3 of those for my 3 bikes please
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I shared the phone number In The video with the elbow pads as there not out yet but will be in multiple colors but here the goggle map link to the hobby shop again 👍
You think Horizon cares????? You can’t even talk to a live person there your on your own for a fix
Normally horizon won’t say anything about issues they just fix it without saying anything as if there was never an issue 💯
@@earlmoorhead5555 that’s why I don’t pre order