Well I’ve recently sold our 41kWh Zoe which has upgraded battery for 12500€ (excl. battery rental) that’s good range and not that expensive compared to other options
Yes but the silly uptempo music was quite irritating... in contrast to the egolf review from over a year ago which was very relaxing and made it easier to concentrate
Yes! Thank you! This is exactly the sort of thing I've been wanting to see, electric drivetrains offered as an option in addition to IC engines on the same chasis and assembly line, in a car that doesn't stand out too much and look like some 80s sci-fi reject (I'm looking at you, BMW i3). Love the no-nonesense modular approach, 2C charging is awesome and the car is attractive and not obnoxious. Good Job Opel/Vauxhall!
I agree. Most EVs today look like some 'wannabe futuristic' vehicle. They will look outdated in just a couple of years. This Corsa has a more common, no-nonsense design. It will still look fine 8 years later or so. With age you will recognize that it's an older model, but it would not look horrible outdated like the BMW i3 surely will.
So with you on this one, let the premium end do the quirky stuff, good to see someone higher up in the auto industry actually listening to what people want.
Exactly, the auto industry has been totally tone-deaf in most cases with the small and cheaper segment so far. Imo this is what will get ev market penetration to start drastically increasing.
Actually since it does share a lot with the ICE version they have that in their advantage, even if the numbers aren't very high at first still part of the same production line and they can also produce it for less.
The supply of ev parts is my worry. Of course they can do the normal bits well. Battery production capacity ramp up is critical factor. As we can see with Hyundai/Kia.
@@MoDa87 i think it will. corsa sales are higher than tesla sales and that small ev is affordable and perfect for the daily commute. it better suited for the mass market than teslas
Stefan Weilhartner but they can not make enough batteries. Tesla already makes 50% of the worlds batteries. How are they going to reach those numbers? PSA will have to build massive factories to supply the batteries, while they do that Tesla is also expanding their facilities. But either way it’s good for the planet.
@@NewmanAutomotive Although. One does save a lot on maintenance and fuel. Aftermarket costs for ICE adds 100-150% that is never advertised. That's if you keep it for 100 000km or so
@@MoDa87 Or for People who drives 50km a day to work and 50km back. Loading the Batterie at home over night. 100km a day, 220 days a year (22.000+ km/year) - with age of 4-5 years car has its 100.000km.
@MrWithnailJRjunior If the figures from previous episodes of Fully Charged are correct, it's only 40% of people (UK) that don't have off-street parking, and currently there are a number of projects working to try and make it possible for that 40%, including chargers inside lampposts, ones that raise up out of the ground (which seems more like a gimmick, but it works!) and also fast chargers at petrol stations, which work kinda like a (albeit still a bit slow) petrol pump
These sort of cars are perfect if you don't do long distance driving and only work 10 miles away from home . Just wish they would knock em out at 15k each so they are affordable to the average driver, plus they would sell tons.
@@mrmedium7984 A limo company in LA has a number of the Tesla Model S. They have so much lower running costs that they paid for themselves in 3 years. They use them to go back and forth to Las Vegas, and they get up to 100K miles per year. 3 have gone past 400K. Only one has had a battery change, and that was after 90K+ at Tesla's request because they wanted to get it into their lab! They replace it for free. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Finally! A car that doesn't make a fuss out of being electric. I just hope that it is priced well and has good repairability; that is something that Vauxhall/Opel excels at. Now THIS is the kind of electric car I want. Comfortable and convenient. A car, not a drivable phone. Edit: Also, I love that it's a five door.
OutOfNamesToChoose internal combustion engine corsa’s start from £14,500 and the corsa e starts from £29,000 but there is a £3000 government car grant.
But 26k for a fricking Vauxhall Corsa which in 3 years it'll be worth peanuts lol No thanks very much! I own an old, somewhat rare petrol car which is now appreciating in value and will only rise faster now. There is no EV which can beat appreciation.
Alright, we NEED this in North America. I'm tired of all the companies here not knowing how to make a good looking EV car. If this makes it to the states I'll happily finance one!
This is just a conversion. All the development was done by suppliers like Continental and CATL, not by the PSA or whats left of Opel/Vauxhall. A real EV would be very different and much better.
I really like the way you edit you videos now. Always weaving little bits here and there to make a comprehensive and easy to follow video. And the big plus is that you don't end up falling asleep mid-video. Congrats for that.
My favorite electric car (without considering Tesla) is the Peugeot e-208. In my opinion it looks stunning. And this Corsa is also a very good looking car! Nice PSA
Obviously no one is going to talk their own product down on camera but the genuine pride and passion for the engineering is clear. This car looks great!
The quality of the video is the best so far :) great dynamics of the shots, loved the description of the visual design, really made you appreciate the looks of it :D
Normally not the way to do this but: Take a small loan for the higher price, with payments which are lower then the cost you save because it’s a low maintenance EV
Stefan Brand you forgot to mention that although those costs are initially lower, you’re paying the loan longer. It’s a clever way to hedge your bet, because although you may not come out number one, you’ll definitely be ahead and not last!
@@steffenjachnow8176 Did you deduct the government subsidies (which I hear are doubling in Germany next year)? Or did you look at the top model instead of the base one?
More *beautiful than the old Corsa* for sure :-) Good to see that Europe is moving to mass production of the electric cars. Such electric cars will help us all to have more clean air on our planet !
I'd love an episode comparing the cars available on the market, price/specs-wise, every 6 months or once a year type of video. That would be a great overview of where the market is, sounds right up Johhny's alley :D
Thank you Johnny. I enjoy the quality video's that are always pumping out of this channel. I've been a very long time supporter of this channel and will continue to give praise to the team at fully charged. This little car is a start for a company. I feel they need to push themselves to move away from putting all the components in the front and move it to a lower and more balanced.
Yet another fantastic video from Fully Charged. Frank was a joy to listen to. This new trio from PSA should do a lot to normalise EVs on European roads. I hope the car sharing club I'm with buys one of them, because I'd love to try one!
Maybe? They are owned by PSA and "Has entered the US with a ridesharing operation and will begin selling cars in North America in 2020." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupe_PSA
Everything about Corsa-e seems competently done. It's not very exciting, but if Corsa-e represents further mainstreaming of EVs, then that's a very good thing indeed. Everyone should keep in mind that the cost to operate an EV us 1/3 as much as a fossil car, so the total cost of ownership is lower, even if the purchase price seems higher.
Total cost of ownership depends on: How long you keep the car before selling it + How much you drive per year + the price of gasoline + the price of electricity. So it has to be calculated for each individual case.
@@udishomer5852 Yes, it's true that TCO varies by miles driven, cost of fuel, etc., but over just a few years of typical driving an EV will cost less than an equivalent class fossil fuel car. The only relevant variable is how soon it happens. Also EVs will eventually cost less to buy than fossil cars, due to falling battery costs, at which point both buying and operating a fossil car will cost more, not to mention the inconvenience of needing to go to a filling station instead of charging at home while you sleep, or at work. At that point, only people who want to pay more money for transportation will buy fossil cars. Economically EVs win long term. (Same with renewable energy generation, given enough energy storage. Wind and solar generation already cost less than coal and nuclear.)
@@LoanwordEggcorn If it takes 8-10 years - its irrelevant for me. Average person in my country changes a car every 5 years (even less for leased cars). I assume its pretty similar in other countries. Personally - I'll will wait until prices drop
It's not a design philosophy. They just can not afford the money for a purpose made design. BMWi made an survey before they made the i3. The result was that people want thier electric cars to be recognizable as electric.
the channels Vids become more and more exiting ... more soundtracks more beautiful intros i can see where patron money went! Just keep up the Pace good work
In three years time when it starts hitting the 2nd hand market, this will be a great car that I can afford to buy. Then I can trade in my old 59 plate Corsa 1.2 active. Looking forward to it. Quality vid, thanks.
The way they packed that 50kwh battery is absolutely brilliant. Even Tesla has to sacrifice the seating positions a bit in their cars to fit the battery.
Congrats to Opel and Vauxhall. Finally an interesting product from Opel (I would love to see a Manta-e or a Calibra-e), feet on the ground logic, and a nice time to market. This type of initiative will change the market. City managers need to worry about the profusion of new EVs and start building charging spots on the streets.
I bought one. Placed the order last Saturday after a test drive; will take delivery a week Monday. Podpoint home charger and 6 months Polar subscription included. Breakdown cover, first service included, and competitively priced. Happy days :)
The Corsa has always sold well as you could get it for under 10K and young/new drivers bought them, did you say the EV version was 25K. I'm not sure they will sell at that price.
Excellent video. Great to see this style of electric car manufacturing as it means less cost to move from ICE. No point reinventing the wheel! Hope to see these on the roads next year.
Too expensive, the car makers/battery suppliers need to keep pushing to get the costs under control. It is almost scandalous a corsa should cost nearly 27k for a base model. I REALLY want an electric car but it has to make financial sense and at the moment they are not quite there yet imo.
@@rogerstarkey5390 i dont doubt they are watching the prices but my point is IMO 27k for a Corsa suggests "affordable" electric cars is still maybe 5-10 years away if wanting brand new or nearly new. To put this into perspective, the current corsa 3 door starts at 12k and the 5 door 14k. That is quite a premium for electric currently.
MonticArckeys but I don’t really want to “make my money back over a 6 year period”. I would quite like it to be cheaper up front. And considering this channel’s regular assertion that electric should, in time, be cheaper than an equivalent ICE to manufacture, I don’t think that’s an unreasonable desire. I personally am not in the market for any new car, instead always buying second-hand, but list price always has an impact on resale price, and I still think we’re a good way off price parity for ICE and electric. Sadly...
Looks great! Thank you Opel for doing this. It's so very true not many people want different looking cars because it's an EV. This is coming from a longtime Saab driver which hated (still do) the GM Opels!
@@funny-video-RUclips-channel Yeah but as I know that's without the battery. Which is....meh? I mean renting the battery can be good but also could get a bit more expensive for some people.
@@zvdfk true, after Umweltbonus about the same price as Renault Zoe and slightly better specs which should make it really appealing if the leasing is also as affordable as the Zoe
I'm sold! at first I thought to myself 'you can get stuff! 200 mile range' but then you said "30 mins fast charge to 80% and 0-60 in 8.1 seconds" that is really respectable! I drive to the Le Mans 24hr race each year (yeh they burn petrol and diesel, like it or fk off) but if I had to drive an EV the 500 mile journey from Lincoln (UK) to Le mans France then it's possible in this car!
Looks decent from the outside, good range and competitive price (I was hoping around £22k tbh). Just because eNiro with 300 miles is not that far off from £26k. Fair play to Vauxhall tho.
Glad to see the Vauxhall name is still around. My family bought a new 1956 Velox... seems like a thousand years ago. Cars have evolved just a tad since then.
FINALLY !! An EV that doesn't look like a pregnant roller skate, or, like something off the set of Star Trek. I want a normal looking car that is an EV.... so simple. Perfect !
yes and no, while it's good it looks normal.. there are is a huge waste of space in there where the engine used to be, basically done so they can use the same factory with minimal disruption, pragmatic but long term they have to be taking advantage of the better packaging available. the VW ID3 will i think set the benchmark for this
Great to see so many new and upgraded EVs rolling up to the starting line. Also good to know that you can now order a car that can deliver 200 miles of range for under £30k. Problem is £25k for a small car is still more than most can afford or would want to pay. Still it all looks to be moving in the right direction.
Finally! A normal electric car that looks normal and behaves normal. Thank you! If more companies would just calm the frik down and do this with just one of there better selling normal cars then we all would already be driving electric cars.
Idk, with Tesla's I don't think they are luxury in the sense of style and comfort, though I haven't ridden one. They are expensive cause they use lots of new technology. I haven't seen "conventional luxury" EV cars, most of them are probably expensive cause they are packed with so much tech.
Agreed. Up until now EVs have felt more like concept cars than practical, everyday runabouts. Forget all the silly extras of the Tesla and it's copycats, this new Corsa e is precisely the sort of electric car that the ordinary motorist wants. It's a car that just so happens to run on electricity, that's it. Well done to the Opel team on this.
Spot on with design. Like other car manufacturers many people just want a car that’s cheap to run, and doesn’t have to be some exotic design that makes it being an EV stand out.
Isn't keeping the breaking lights off when using regen counter-intuitive? You're lowering your speed and should alert the people behind you that that is happening. Obviously not when you're coasting, but when using proper regen it should be the default, right?
I agree, they were concerned that it would signal the braking lights too often and be confusing, but they overlooked that you don't activate that amount of regen braking except when you actually want to brake...
as far as I understand it thats what the 2 stage regen is for stage 1 is comparable to motor breaking stage 2 is agressive regen like light breaking the breaks only set in on pedal to the floor emergencys
The man in the video said the car does a light regen. A petrol car also keeps the breaking lights of when breaking on the engine. Only with "proper" regen the breaking lights should be turned on but for some reason they choose to not to have full regen.
Brake lights are supposed to go on only when the deceleration is over a certain amount. All that happens in the regen braking case is that it happens automatically when you lift off the throttle and the regen comes in. Even in a traditional car with no regen it comes on when braking sufficiently, not when you just touch the brake pedal. So in this case it means the available regen is only very light, and below the threshold at which the brake lights would be needed. This also means the normal brakes will be used more often (thus wearing the brake pads more, for example).
"The Corsa-e has a quoted range of 205 miles, however, Vauxhall claims this will be “extendable by 40%” in Eco mode, suggesting a maximum theoretical range of around 287 miles. "
The combination of looks (like a normal car), range (50kWh battery), charge rate (up to 100kW) and especially price makes this a very attractive small (second) mainly city car (just as the Corsa always was). They did all the right choices imho.
Quite a few cars have been doing this for at least the last decade. A lot of cars with brake assist either brighten the brake lights or flash them when you push the brakes past a certain level. Many also flash the hazard lights. My car turns on the hazard lights during high deceleration and leaves them flashing until the driver turns them off.
People questioning the price, maybe ought to look at the mini ev and the Honda ev, then look at the usability price to range, I'd imagine the Corsa will do better in terms of sales.
Agree but issue is mini is a premium brand so price will reflect and the Honda is very niche in the quirky sense. This vauxhall is in the lower brand segment. For that it is expensive - in other words pricing needs to be compared with the Zoe
@@geraldhenrickson7472 They are in vaguely the same price range, and even the basic T-3 has lots more to offer. For someone looking at long-term ownership, it's worth the extra bump up to get something that will stay better. Given the backlog demand, the T-3 may win out on long-term retained value, too. Depreciation can suck the life out of a capital expenditure that doesn't hold up.
Reality is this car will easily deal with 95% of trips for 95% of owners. With good charging infrastructure long trips can also be planned. So the only sector not catered for is people who do regular trips of over 200 miles, not many people. I agree with the price still being high.
@@BillyNoMates1974 Agreed, i have always been curious when they will though as they tend to use old renault tech, and it would be brilliant to see an Access model sandero based on the old zoe tech, they should be able to bring it to market for around £15k. but i suspect renault will not allow them too
@@charlesuk5358 I suspect Renault won't allow them to as well. Also the plant that builds the batteries possibly won't be making the mark 1 Renault Zoe batteries anymore. so no longer cost effective to do it. Now if there was an industry standard battery pack,that woould drop the price and solve the battery production problems too.
No they are planning 2020/2021 last I read but it will be very low range to start with and I mean low circa 100 mile but it will be "shockingly affordable". Guess it'll be fine for a city car but not commuting.
@@eldridgep2 this particular type of car would suit me down to the ground. most of my travels are under 20 miles round trip per day, basically a school run and the odd run to the shop, for longer/larger family trips we usually rent a people carrier anyway
The Renault Zoe finally has some stiff competition. Hopefully that will help drive down prices to around £15k to 17k or perhaps less. Anything over £20k for tjis category of car is still too much
The German chap won the battle of the checks, hands down. As for the car, looks decent, I just worry about the price, its only a Corsa, for heaven's sake (and I say that as an EV owner that's not going back).
We've ordered a Model 3 Standard range Plus, but, if this Corsa EV had been in production now, it would have very like made our choice a very difficult one. The styling looks great, the range and performance seem spot on, and the designers and engineers seem genuinely enthusiastic about it. The icing on the cake would be a charger network for it? Looking forward to a full test review. Hope it does well.
We're finally getting to see cars made for my kind of budget......... in 10 years time, on its 3rd user!
Thank you at lot of money for such a small car, will sell in small amount!
computerbob06 You can find 4 years old Renault Zoe for about 6000€ !
@@etiennelamole9565 with a range of 60 km... in summer. they're really very first gen...
Yes so agree - love model 3 but not interested in paying bmw money
Well I’ve recently sold our 41kWh Zoe which has upgraded battery for 12500€ (excl. battery rental) that’s good range and not that expensive compared to other options
2020 the year of the EV , really looking forward to try some of them. Fully charged live 2020 anyone ??
Fully charged 2020 may need a bigger venue!
@@bigbadjohn10 I believe Robert have already said the next Fully Charge will be at a new venue.
@@DavidKnowles0 Weird, they're advertising Silverstone again, just like this year. fullycharged.show/events/
The e208 was at FCL 2019, which shares its platform?
THANK YOU for implementing proper thermal management for the battery pack.
They learned from Nissan's mistake, and also rather essential to enable 100kw charging.
@@bigboldbicycle Nissan Leaf E-Plus supports 100kw charging as it uses thermal cooling for charging.
Jonny is such an excellent presenter.
Nice editing and flow to the video, bouncing back and forth from the internal to external while hitting all the info.
Yes but the silly uptempo music was quite irritating... in contrast to the egolf review from over a year ago which was very relaxing and made it easier to concentrate
@@michaelherlihy2090 Fair enough. I watched it at 2x normal speed so the music was even more uptempo, but also half as long.
Film majors commenting on youtube
Michael Herlihy I also don't like cheesy vintage music like that. This is a car review, not a 1930's Disney cartoon! The rest of it is excellent.
Yes! Thank you! This is exactly the sort of thing I've been wanting to see, electric drivetrains offered as an option in addition to IC engines on the same chasis and assembly line, in a car that doesn't stand out too much and look like some 80s sci-fi reject (I'm looking at you, BMW i3). Love the no-nonesense modular approach, 2C charging is awesome and the car is attractive and not obnoxious. Good Job Opel/Vauxhall!
I agree. Most EVs today look like some 'wannabe futuristic' vehicle. They will look outdated in just a couple of years. This Corsa has a more common, no-nonsense design. It will still look fine 8 years later or so. With age you will recognize that it's an older model, but it would not look horrible outdated like the BMW i3 surely will.
Yes! People just want regular cars that happen to be electric. Thankfully it seems some automakers are starting to realize this.
So with you on this one, let the premium end do the quirky stuff, good to see someone higher up in the auto industry actually listening to what people want.
Exactly, the auto industry has been totally tone-deaf in most cases with the small and cheaper segment so far. Imo this is what will get ev market penetration to start drastically increasing.
Euh , Golf, up, Kangoo, Partner, NV200, Kona, Niro, Ioniq, soul, MB B250e, all in ICE version to 😕. So what have you been waiting for exactly?
That car is gonna hit the jackpot for Opel
Props to the interviewer, great job
Peugeot car ^^
This looks 10x better than my old Nissan Leaf.
The first Vauxhall that I've seen in years and years that I wouldn't mind driving!
I think the side profile bonnet line looks naff.
No longer the gm poor build quality hopefully
Hope this sells, but more importantly, they are able to build large numbers of them.
Actually since it does share a lot with the ICE version they have that in their advantage, even if the numbers aren't very high at first still part of the same production line and they can also produce it for less.
The supply of ev parts is my worry. Of course they can do the normal bits well. Battery production capacity ramp up is critical factor. As we can see with Hyundai/Kia.
Jukka Kuusela they will never reach Tesla levels. They have no giga factory.
@@MoDa87 i think it will. corsa sales are higher than tesla sales and that small ev is affordable and perfect for the daily commute. it better suited for the mass market than teslas
Stefan Weilhartner but they can not make enough batteries. Tesla already makes 50% of the worlds batteries. How are they going to reach those numbers? PSA will have to build massive factories to supply the batteries, while they do that Tesla is also expanding their facilities. But either way it’s good for the planet.
Good job Opel! If the price is right this'll make waves.
@Wu Me I cannot fault your logic. I'm guessing you are in a strange mood though.
As usual, the price isn't right at all for a car in this class! :( It's approaching double the entry level ICE version... sigh...
@@NewmanAutomotive Although. One does save a lot on maintenance and fuel. Aftermarket costs for ICE adds 100-150% that is never advertised. That's if you keep it for 100 000km or so
Joe Black that is why I think BEV work best as company cars or car sharing cars.
@@MoDa87 Or for People who drives 50km a day to work and 50km back. Loading the Batterie at home over night.
100km a day, 220 days a year (22.000+ km/year) - with age of 4-5 years car has its 100.000km.
The EV game is unstoppable, everyone wants to be part of it. 50 kwh is great for a start
50kwh liquid cooled. Can you hear Nissan?
@MrWithnailJRjunior If the figures from previous episodes of Fully Charged are correct, it's only 40% of people (UK) that don't have off-street parking, and currently there are a number of projects working to try and make it possible for that 40%, including chargers inside lampposts, ones that raise up out of the ground (which seems more like a gimmick, but it works!) and also fast chargers at petrol stations, which work kinda like a (albeit still a bit slow) petrol pump
Ev only exist because of the crippling taxes applied to combustion cars. Ev can not compete at an equal playing field.
These sort of cars are perfect if you don't do long distance driving and only work 10 miles away from home . Just wish they would knock em out at 15k each so they are affordable to the average driver, plus they would sell tons.
@@mrmedium7984 A limo company in LA has a number of the Tesla Model S. They have so much lower running costs that they paid for themselves in 3 years. They use them to go back and forth to Las Vegas, and they get up to 100K miles per year. 3 have gone past 400K. Only one has had a battery change, and that was after 90K+ at Tesla's request because they wanted to get it into their lab! They replace it for free. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Finally! A car that doesn't make a fuss out of being electric. I just hope that it is priced well and has good repairability; that is something that Vauxhall/Opel excels at. Now THIS is the kind of electric car I want. Comfortable and convenient. A car, not a drivable phone.
Edit: Also, I love that it's a five door.
OutOfNamesToChoose internal combustion engine corsa’s start from £14,500 and the corsa e starts from £29,000 but there is a £3000 government car grant.
"... A car, not a drivable phone..." Well put.
But 26k for a fricking Vauxhall Corsa which in 3 years it'll be worth peanuts lol
No thanks very much!
I own an old, somewhat rare petrol car which is now appreciating in value and will only rise faster now. There is no EV which can beat appreciation.
@@BlatentlyFakeName OK Mr. Fragile Masculinity.
It always so funny to me living near Opel HQ in Rüsselsheim to see the familiar Cars but with weird logos
I like the new Corsa a LOT. Looking forward to seeing lots and lots of them around :).
Alright, we NEED this in North America. I'm tired of all the companies here not knowing how to make a good looking EV car. If this makes it to the states I'll happily finance one!
Great looking little EV and great spec to boot.
This is just a conversion. All the development was done by suppliers like Continental and CATL, not by the PSA or whats left of Opel/Vauxhall. A real EV would be very different and much better.
personally i think it looks HORRID. plus as a car its WAY too small for my needs!
@@petelattimer6808 Good for you?
I really like the way you edit you videos now. Always weaving little bits here and there to make a comprehensive and easy to follow video. And the big plus is that you don't end up falling asleep mid-video. Congrats for that.
My favorite electric car (without considering Tesla) is the Peugeot e-208. In my opinion it looks stunning. And this Corsa is also a very good looking car! Nice PSA
Agreed, Peugeot 208 and this look good. Porsche tycan looks good but is expensive. Not sure about the vw Id3 yet though.
Absolutely love this show. You guys are entertaining, informative, detailed and honest. Really looking forward to your driven review of the Corsa!
Finally living up to the lightning bolt logo!
Good point
Obviously no one is going to talk their own product down on camera but the genuine pride and passion for the engineering is clear. This car looks great!
One thing I have to say about Opel / Vauxhall, their designers have consistently knocked it out of the park. Proportions and lines are always spot-on.
Really well made video. Also kudos to Opel/Vauxhall for letting the technical people do the talking and allowing them to get into the details.
WOW, just when i thought there is no review of the corsa, you guys upload this video! Thank you :)
The quality of the video is the best so far :) great dynamics of the shots, loved the description of the visual design, really made you appreciate the looks of it :D
This is a very good looking car! And it seems well designed too. I would buy it if the starting price would be around 25,000 €.
The e208 is 25k
Normally not the way to do this but: Take a small loan for the higher price, with payments which are lower then the cost you save because it’s a low maintenance EV
Stefan Brand you forgot to mention that although those costs are initially lower, you’re paying the loan longer. It’s a clever way to hedge your bet, because although you may not come out number one, you’ll definitely be ahead and not last!
@Ethan Hartley: No it is not. It's 30,450 € in Germany...
@@steffenjachnow8176 Did you deduct the government subsidies (which I hear are doubling in Germany next year)? Or did you look at the top model instead of the base one?
Really well presented. Also love the no-frills or nonsense style to this video, just straight to the point and informative.
100kW Fast charging, and battery cool/heating.. Did not expect that
nor the 11kw onboard ac charger
Ian Robins indeed!
But the range is poor
@@bryanm.4869 sure the range will improve in the upcoming years with improvements with technology as well their battery tech
Always great to listen to guys who know what they're talking about.
I ordered a Voltaic Blue Corsa-e Executive =)
More *beautiful than the old Corsa* for sure :-)
Good to see that Europe is moving to mass production of the electric cars.
Such electric cars will help us all to have more clean air on our planet !
At last a small electric car that doesn’t look weird well done Vauxhall👍👍
50kwh and 100kw charging. Holy shit. Opel is not messing around. Good job guys! The future is bright!!!!
^ PSA clone
Peugeot
I'd love an episode comparing the cars available on the market, price/specs-wise, every 6 months or once a year type of video.
That would be a great overview of where the market is, sounds right up Johhny's alley :D
Thank you Johnny. I enjoy the quality video's that are always pumping out of this channel. I've been a very long time supporter of this channel and will continue to give praise to the team at fully charged.
This little car is a start for a company. I feel they need to push themselves to move away from putting all the components in the front and move it to a lower and more balanced.
Looks great, they shouldn't bother making the diesel versions though
As soon as demand for them dries up they surely will.
They won't stop till they drop
@@2nd3rd1st yeah, they should just give up 36% of the market, right? What do you think funds all the EV development?
@@boysdell People who are selfish and stupid enough to buy diesel cars don't fund EV development.
they probably want to sell also where infrastructure is not good enough for EVs yet... like 90% of the EU for example.
Yet another fantastic video from Fully Charged. Frank was a joy to listen to. This new trio from PSA should do a lot to normalise EVs on European roads. I hope the car sharing club I'm with buys one of them, because I'd love to try one!
Send them to Canada, I would buy one, and help sell them also. Nice car!
I definitely want more electric cars with longer ranges in Canada
Maybe? They are owned by PSA and "Has entered the US with a ridesharing operation and will begin selling cars in North America in 2020." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupe_PSA
Kareem Skinner this isn’t really longer range - 330km and 50kw is less than 2019 Leaf, Bolt, Niro, Kona, and Tesla 3.
I don't think that Canada is the best country to have electric car with city like range.
@@georgehuser4711 When living in Quebec - Area only driving in Montreal, why not?
Johnny, best you have ever done. Excellent . Thank you. Just at the right depth of detail ( unlike the Zoe )
Everything about Corsa-e seems competently done. It's not very exciting, but if Corsa-e represents further mainstreaming of EVs, then that's a very good thing indeed.
Everyone should keep in mind that the cost to operate an EV us 1/3 as much as a fossil car, so the total cost of ownership is lower, even if the purchase price seems higher.
Total cost of ownership depends on:
How long you keep the car before selling it + How much you drive per year + the price of gasoline + the price of electricity.
So it has to be calculated for each individual case.
@@udishomer5852 Yes, it's true that TCO varies by miles driven, cost of fuel, etc., but over just a few years of typical driving an EV will cost less than an equivalent class fossil fuel car. The only relevant variable is how soon it happens.
Also EVs will eventually cost less to buy than fossil cars, due to falling battery costs, at which point both buying and operating a fossil car will cost more, not to mention the inconvenience of needing to go to a filling station instead of charging at home while you sleep, or at work. At that point, only people who want to pay more money for transportation will buy fossil cars. Economically EVs win long term.
(Same with renewable energy generation, given enough energy storage. Wind and solar generation already cost less than coal and nuclear.)
@@LoanwordEggcorn If it takes 8-10 years - its irrelevant for me. Average person in my country changes a car every 5 years (even less for leased cars). I assume its pretty similar in other countries.
Personally - I'll will wait until prices drop
I looks absolutly fantastic, and nice to see that they have gone all in with a good size battery
I love their design philosophy: Just make a good looking car that doesn't shout "I'm an EV!" because they usually look silly.
Tesla's don't look silly though. I think current car design is influenced by EV's but not the hideous EV's of the past.
It's not a design philosophy. They just can not afford the money for a purpose made design.
BMWi made an survey before they made the i3. The result was that people want thier electric cars to be recognizable as electric.
the channels Vids become more and more exiting ... more soundtracks more beautiful intros
i can see where patron money went!
Just keep up the Pace good work
In three years time when it starts hitting the 2nd hand market, this will be a great car that I can afford to buy. Then I can trade in my old 59 plate Corsa 1.2 active. Looking forward to it. Quality vid, thanks.
Finally someone that makes sense!
The way they packed that 50kwh battery is absolutely brilliant. Even Tesla has to sacrifice the seating positions a bit in their cars to fit the battery.
Congrats to Opel and Vauxhall. Finally an interesting product from Opel (I would love to see a Manta-e or a Calibra-e), feet on the ground logic, and a nice time to market. This type of initiative will change the market. City managers need to worry about the profusion of new EVs and start building charging spots on the streets.
I bought one. Placed the order last Saturday after a test drive; will take delivery a week Monday. Podpoint home charger and 6 months Polar subscription included. Breakdown cover, first service included, and competitively priced. Happy days :)
Never been a Corsa fan, but that looks quite pleasant.
At the top of motoring journalists. Well done and thank you.
The Corsa has always sold well as you could get it for under 10K and young/new drivers bought them, did you say the EV version was 25K. I'm not sure they will sell at that price.
Young/new drivers shouldn't want to get a new car anyway, it's extremely bad for the environment and for your wallet as well
Digging those Air Vortex blues on your feet.
Nice car , maybe in 10 years time I will be able to afford a 2nd hand one , the most I've ever spent on a car was £8k
Excellent video. Great to see this style of electric car manufacturing as it means less cost to move from ICE.
No point reinventing the wheel!
Hope to see these on the roads next year.
Piston Brothers?? Didn't they open for Faraday Past back in the day??
I think they disbanded after the "bales and cider" incident in 72, less said about that, the better.
Liked the back and forth between the two subjects
Too expensive, the car makers/battery suppliers need to keep pushing to get the costs under control. It is almost scandalous a corsa should cost nearly 27k for a base model. I REALLY want an electric car but it has to make financial sense and at the moment they are not quite there yet imo.
raptorheli2 - yup! Unfortunately until we have an increase in the world’s supply of batteries it’s not going to change anytime soon.
You think they're not watching the cost?
Smh
@@rogerstarkey5390 i dont doubt they are watching the prices but my point is IMO 27k for a Corsa suggests "affordable" electric cars is still maybe 5-10 years away if wanting brand new or nearly new. To put this into perspective, the current corsa 3 door starts at 12k and the 5 door 14k. That is quite a premium for electric currently.
@@raptorheli2 new Corsa will be more expensive starting price, closer to £15k. If you drive a lot, you'll make the money back over a 6 year period
MonticArckeys but I don’t really want to “make my money back over a 6 year period”. I would quite like it to be cheaper up front.
And considering this channel’s regular assertion that electric should, in time, be cheaper than an equivalent ICE to manufacture, I don’t think that’s an unreasonable desire. I personally am not in the market for any new car, instead always buying second-hand, but list price always has an impact on resale price, and I still think we’re a good way off price parity for ICE and electric. Sadly...
Looks great! Thank you Opel for doing this. It's so very true not many people want different looking cars because it's an EV. This is coming from a longtime Saab driver which hated (still do) the GM Opels!
That's actually the first Corsa I like the look of
Same! And that says a lot! The Corsas of old had a terrible design. For me it looks a bit “Audi A1”ish, which is good!
I really liked that he didn’t want the brake lights to constantly be going on with the regenerative breaking
Looks pretty pretty nice :p And Specs are good as well. :D
They’re the kind of stats you want in a small car like the Corsa. Well done Vauxhall / Opel.
Really hoping it'll be below €25k in Germany some day
Renault will sell Zoe 3 for that price in the last month of 2019. Look out for it in December or so.
@@funny-video-RUclips-channel Yeah but as I know that's without the battery. Which is....meh? I mean renting the battery can be good but also could get a bit more expensive for some people.
They have announced pricing already, it will be 29.990€ before Umweltbonus (4000€)
@@Flyfan24 Sounds pretty inviting once you factor in the Umweltbonus, especially if there's good financing/leasing available
@@zvdfk true, after Umweltbonus about the same price as Renault Zoe and slightly better specs which should make it really appealing if the leasing is also as affordable as the Zoe
I'm sold! at first I thought to myself 'you can get stuff! 200 mile range' but then you said "30 mins fast charge to 80% and 0-60 in 8.1 seconds" that is really respectable!
I drive to the Le Mans 24hr race each year (yeh they burn petrol and diesel, like it or fk off) but if I had to drive an EV the 500 mile journey from Lincoln (UK) to Le mans France then it's possible in this car!
Looks decent from the outside, good range and competitive price (I was hoping around £22k tbh). Just because eNiro with 300 miles is not that far off from £26k. Fair play to Vauxhall tho.
Range is poor, less than 200 miles, Kia is much better and will probably more reliable as well
Glad to see the Vauxhall name is still around. My family bought a new 1956 Velox... seems like a thousand years ago. Cars have evolved just a tad since then.
I prefer the looks of the e208 honestly but nice regardless :D
At PSA if you want the more dynamic image you buy the e208. If you want the more conservative image, the Corsa e.
FINALLY !! An EV that doesn't look like a pregnant roller skate, or, like something off the set of Star Trek. I want a normal looking car that is an EV.... so simple. Perfect !
yes and no, while it's good it looks normal.. there are is a huge waste of space in there where the engine used to be, basically done so they can use the same factory with minimal disruption, pragmatic but long term they have to be taking advantage of the better packaging available. the VW ID3 will i think set the benchmark for this
Great to see so many new and upgraded EVs rolling up to the starting line. Also good to know that you can now order a car that can deliver 200 miles of range for under £30k. Problem is £25k for a small car is still more than most can afford or would want to pay. Still it all looks to be moving in the right direction.
Fully Charged is the best EV-chanel .......«IN THE WORLD»! 🤩👍👌
Finally! A normal electric car that looks normal and behaves normal. Thank you! If more companies would just calm the frik down and do this with just one of there better selling normal cars then we all would already be driving electric cars.
@8:00 Just have the brake lights automatically turn on when the regen braking is significant enough.
The new Corsa looks fantastic!
I hope it drives well too
Price is 29 900 Euro in Germany and France.
Upvote to put this comment on top and avoid "price?" comments.
Johnny Smith is a very good presenter. He's very natural in front of the camera.
Yes! "Normal" EV cars is exactly what we need. The world has enough luxury EVs in or nearing production today.
Idk, with Tesla's I don't think they are luxury in the sense of style and comfort, though I haven't ridden one. They are expensive cause they use lots of new technology. I haven't seen "conventional luxury" EV cars, most of them are probably expensive cause they are packed with so much tech.
Agreed. Up until now EVs have felt more like concept cars than practical, everyday runabouts. Forget all the silly extras of the Tesla and it's copycats, this new Corsa e is precisely the sort of electric car that the ordinary motorist wants. It's a car that just so happens to run on electricity, that's it. Well done to the Opel team on this.
Spot on with design. Like other car manufacturers many people just want a car that’s cheap to run, and doesn’t have to be some exotic design that makes it being an EV stand out.
Isn't keeping the breaking lights off when using regen counter-intuitive? You're lowering your speed and should alert the people behind you that that is happening.
Obviously not when you're coasting, but when using proper regen it should be the default, right?
I agree, they were concerned that it would signal the braking lights too often and be confusing, but they overlooked that you don't activate that amount of regen braking except when you actually want to brake...
as far as I understand it thats what the 2 stage regen is for
stage 1 is comparable to motor breaking
stage 2 is agressive regen like light breaking
the breaks only set in on pedal to the floor emergencys
I would also like to have full regen at all time. Finding the sweet Spot for max Regen and No breaking is unnecessairy in my Opinion
The man in the video said the car does a light regen. A petrol car also keeps the breaking lights of when breaking on the engine. Only with "proper" regen the breaking lights should be turned on but for some reason they choose to not to have full regen.
Brake lights are supposed to go on only when the deceleration is over a certain amount. All that happens in the regen braking case is that it happens automatically when you lift off the throttle and the regen comes in. Even in a traditional car with no regen it comes on when braking sufficiently, not when you just touch the brake pedal.
So in this case it means the available regen is only very light, and below the threshold at which the brake lights would be needed. This also means the normal brakes will be used more often (thus wearing the brake pads more, for example).
Honestly, I would love this car here in the US, I would buy this right now.
"The Corsa-e has a quoted range of 205 miles, however, Vauxhall claims this will be “extendable by 40%” in Eco mode, suggesting a maximum theoretical range of around 287 miles. "
The combination of looks (like a normal car), range (50kWh battery), charge rate (up to 100kW) and especially price makes this a very attractive small (second) mainly city car (just as the Corsa always was). They did all the right choices imho.
Why don't we have cars which changed the intensity of the brake lights depending on the intensity of braking?
Quite a few cars have been doing this for at least the last decade. A lot of cars with brake assist either brighten the brake lights or flash them when you push the brakes past a certain level. Many also flash the hazard lights. My car turns on the hazard lights during high deceleration and leaves them flashing until the driver turns them off.
The first Corsa to look cool. Good work, Opel!
People questioning the price, maybe ought to look at the mini ev and the Honda ev, then look at the usability price to range, I'd imagine the Corsa will do better in terms of sales.
Agree but issue is mini is a premium brand so price will reflect and the Honda is very niche in the quirky sense. This vauxhall is in the lower brand segment. For that it is expensive - in other words pricing needs to be compared with the Zoe
That looks actually quite stunning!
I have a 2014 Corsa, I need one of these plz Oo
Can't wait to see your test drive! Looks great.
Would have gone for this if I wasn’t getting a Model 3. Great looking car.
Isn't that apples and oranges?
G Henrickson Eh?
@@geraldhenrickson7472 They are in vaguely the same price range, and even the basic T-3 has lots more to offer. For someone looking at long-term ownership, it's worth the extra bump up to get something that will stay better. Given the backlog demand, the T-3 may win out on long-term retained value, too. Depreciation can suck the life out of a capital expenditure that doesn't hold up.
Smart looking as always and even quite sporty. Impressive, PSA made a good choice to buy Vauxhall/Opel.
Everyone is doing the same... 30k car with 200 miles of range.
I guess we are 2-4 years away from affordable and usable e cars.
Still don't get it?
@@rogerstarkey5390 get what? That we human being can achieve anyyhing if we really want to?
Reality is this car will easily deal with 95% of trips for 95% of owners. With good charging infrastructure long trips can also be planned. So the only sector not catered for is people who do regular trips of over 200 miles, not many people. I agree with the price still being high.
Looking forward to see these in person.
Looks great but £26.5k for a Corsa is a difficult pill to swallow.
eldridgep2 it’s more like £30k on the Vauxhall’s website :(
It will still be cheaper than the ICE model in the long run.
@@snowstrobe That depends on the miles you do. For most people petrol will be way cheaper.
Price might be before government incentives tho - that would help.
@@snowstrobe nope, you really need to brush up on your maths.
The £12,000 price difference buys a lot of fuel.
Love the production of these reviews.
I wonder what Dacia have in the pipeline..
They wont jump to electric until it becomes cost effective to do so. say 10 years away I recon.
but when they do, they will sell loads
@@BillyNoMates1974 Agreed, i have always been curious when they will though as they tend to use old renault tech, and it would be brilliant to see an Access model sandero based on the old zoe tech, they should be able to bring it to market for around £15k. but i suspect renault will not allow them too
@@charlesuk5358 I suspect Renault won't allow them to as well. Also the plant that builds the batteries possibly won't be making the mark 1 Renault Zoe batteries anymore. so no longer cost effective to do it.
Now if there was an industry standard battery pack,that woould drop the price and solve the battery production problems too.
No they are planning 2020/2021 last I read but it will be very low range to start with and I mean low circa 100 mile but it will be "shockingly affordable". Guess it'll be fine for a city car but not commuting.
@@eldridgep2 this particular type of car would suit me down to the ground. most of my travels are under 20 miles round trip per day, basically a school run and the odd run to the shop, for longer/larger family trips we usually rent a people carrier anyway
this is the first corsa i have actually looked at and said it was really good looking
The Renault Zoe finally has some stiff competition. Hopefully that will help drive down prices to around £15k to 17k or perhaps less. Anything over £20k for tjis category of car is still too much
Yes!! Just ordered a Corsa E First edition black with a white roof. Looking forward to!!
The German chap won the battle of the checks, hands down.
As for the car, looks decent, I just worry about the price, its only a Corsa, for heaven's sake (and I say that as an EV owner that's not going back).
Doesn't matter what standard the car is, the battery pack is the price of a car anyway.
We've ordered a Model 3 Standard range Plus, but, if this Corsa EV had been in production now, it would have very like made our choice a very difficult one.
The styling looks great, the range and performance seem spot on, and the designers and engineers seem genuinely enthusiastic about it.
The icing on the cake would be a charger network for it?
Looking forward to a full test review. Hope it does well.