And he didn't start learning drumming until he was 15!!!! Think of it. Within 5 years he became the drummer for the greatest rock band of all time. He was one of four musical geniuses who, through serendipity, came together at the right time.
What’s really amazing too, they only played together about 2 months, before recording this album. Page had like 2 weeks to find band members, & their first rehearsal was on August 19, the day before Plants 20th birthday. I’m not sure how many gigs they played as The New Yardbirds, but by sometime in October, over 4 days it was recoded produced mixed & edited by Page. How quick they played so amazing together, like different parts of one musician. Then with lives & improvising, & still fitting like a glove, all 4 being the GOATS of their crafts made all the difference.
I absolutely agree. JPJ is just an amazing all-around *musician*. One of the best concerts I ever saw - by far - was JPJ on his solo tour for the Zooma album in 1999. He played bass, keyboards, lap steel, guitar and mandolin. And anyone who never got to see him in a live setting could never comprehend the POWER he put out. Him and his band literally had the building shaking! It was amazing.
Ugh, so much more than glue. I know what you are saying, but glue is sticky and slow. Jones was super fast, always improvising, and never repeating the same thing twice. John Paul Jones was the best musician in the group and was doing far more complex harmonic leading progressions than most rock bassists could do.... the glue is the rhythm guitar track that jimmy laid down the first time through. Jones on bass was doing crazy lead bass jazz style funky walking things that most people never had imagined at that time in rock music. Literally the only person in the group who never plays the same thing the same way twice... that's John Paul Jones. ALWAYS changing it, ALWAYS improvising, and solid as a rock.
Most drummers won't understand this, but Bonham was obviously born with perfect pitch, and it effects his sound immensely. He probably didn't even realize it, as most people won't. His drums are so perfectly tuned that his entire kit resonates like a guitar chord with perfect intonation.
@@house9Tube A lot. He recorded drums like nobody ever had. He was willing to experiment with odd mic placements and microphones most people wouldn't use for drums. I once read that Bonzo recorded in a Crow's Nest above the band on some occasions. Page loved using different kinds of rooms, too.
That first album is all killer, no filler. It must have been jarring at the time it came out. Such a different sound from Cream, Hendrix, The Who, and everything else that came before Zeppelin. The drums & the bass are so incredible, and of course the guitars & vocals. Impossible to overrate this album.
Poor Ginger Baker had to hear this as the first example of Bonham’s talents,no wonder he said “Bonham can’t swing like I do”. I guess this was the reason he was such a miserable bastard.
Funny that, in the 60s, we had no idea that so much of what we were listening to was so "far ahead of its time." We just took it for granted that we had great music.
The first album is BY FAR the greatest Zep album. Nothing else was ever as good. It stands alone as one of the few very very greatest albums in history.
I don't know if you will ever go back to read comments made on older videos, but I just wanted to say thank you for being one of, if not the only one that mentioned that Bonzo was so damn young when they recorded this. It goes without saying that he was also too damn young when he died also
No other band had the drums so prominently out front,integral to their sound. I always imagine Ginger Baker destroying a room or punching the first person he saw after listening to this song .
To me, Zeppelin always seemed like a race car or downhill skier pushing to the edge of out of control but so great they always win the race. Most bands seemed to have a recognizable formula they followed and Zep just seemed to say, no, we’re not doing it that way. You’re going to be breathing hard and wondering what just happened when we’re done.
Never get tired of listening to that track. Bonzo just oozed swagger. Forgot how melodic his drum part was in this track till I re-listened today. Damn.
This song: track one, side one, blew me away as a kid and made me a lifelong fan. Those fills...that sound, and I was a bassist at heart. Great reaction. Love tomsee Zep back.
Jimmy opened every single other album with a barnstormer...Whole Lotta Love, Immigrant Song, Black Dog, etc. This one is kind of a barnstormer, but the most obvious choice would have been Communication Breakdown. I think Jimmy deliberately chose this one to open their debut album as if to say, "Look at this frickin drummer I'VE got!!!" Robert has said Jimmy liked to play right in front of the drums, let them drive him on. Jimmy has said that about anybody could do those bass drum triplets...nobody but Bonzo could do them ALL DAY LONG like Bonzo
According to Carmine Appice, he asked Bonham about those single bass triplets and he said he got from him. Carmine was like "Huh? When did I do *that*?"Apparently he showed him on the Vanilla Fudge cover of "Ticket To Ride." Though, I've listened to the studio version anyway and I'm not seeing what he's talking about, though the bass drum is a little difficult to hear in the mix. Something tells me, whatever Bonham heard is not what he actually ended up doing with it. An inspiration maybe.
One of the best displays of Bonham's virtuosity, IMHO. His ability to hit "in the crack," as you say, is part of his signature, possibly more evident in the earlier recordings. Great vid!
HEY ANDREW..GREAT TUNE... BONHAM SAID IN INTERVIEWS HE KNICKED THOSE QUICK TRIPLET KICKS FROM CARMINE APPICE FROM VANILLA FUDGE.,AND CARMINE HAS CONFIRMED THIS IN MANY INTERVIEWS...Oh crap my caps were on but I'm too lazy this am to rewrite it.bc I'm recovering from Covid..Nice breakdown as always..✌️🤘
When John Bonham was born, his heart stopped. The doctor delivering him restarted his heart. The attending physician had just listened to a song on the car radio by Stan Kenton. The drum rhythm on that song affected the pattern of the thumping of Baby Bonzo’s chest by the doctor affected everything Bonham played.
Robert Plant said Bonham was self taught(as was Jimmy Page) and had a metronome where his heart was supposed to be. No wonder he was(is) the best ever.
I'm trying to remember exactly when I heard this for the first time. It was probably around '69 or '70, around 11 or 12 years old. That said, 50+ years later it still stands the test of time. Oh, the apple didn't fall far from tree, his son Jason during the show at O2 arena with the band does his dad proud playing the old man's drum kit on this and many others during that show.
IMHO all the best rock drummers have jazz roots. My two favorites John Bonham and Bill Ward John Densmore from The Doors is really good. He had a heavy jazz influence. You should check out some of their stuff. LA Woman is a good start
John's parents loved listening & dancing to Gene Krupa Big Band records. It's no wonder why a then baby Bonzo was influenced (mesmerized) so young by such a legendary drummer. Gene was quite melodic in style, but had great groove, a solid pocket, pretty amazing chops, & a true understanding of dynamics. I'm pretty sure John was also influenced by Joe Morello's hand drumming, then again baby John was beating his mum's pots & pans way before he ever heard of or saw Morello. John may have been influenced by the Great Max Roach too. John paid homage to him playing an intro of one of Roach's solos for his Moby Dick solo. Lastly, had John's main influence been Buddy Rich rather than Krupa, I don't think he'd be as great a drummer, or had as fine a touch. Rich had finesse too - HE HAD EVERYTHING - but imo his patented style was mostly a no holds barred, unrelenting, unrestrained, in your face monster flurry, a kick your arse bombardment with max volume, & blistering speed killer chops! His aggressive style went hand in hand with his fiery personality. Bonzo is my forever favorite! His inhuman Power, Talent, Genius as a Drummer will never fade or be forgotten! Cheers John!
Nobody covers Zeppelin well.. lol some of the best drummers alive technically may know the song "note for note" but aint nobody "sound" like him.. some of the best grooves ever ever ❤
Well you got to check out yoyoka cover when she was 8 and her remake cover on her 12th birthday studio version. And also check out a reaction video by Robert Plant on her cover of this song. He was over the moon in his reaction.
I have a Tom Waits concert from 1976 that I listen to often. His drummer at the time was a jazz guy named Chip White. Toward the end, during band introductions, Chip White does a fairly brief solo. The similarities between what John Bonham did and what Chip was doing there are strong. So yeah, it's obvious Bonzo came from a jazz backgound.
Yep Not a drummer here, a guitar player but I love Bonhams playing. This is one of my favorite Bonham songs after If the levee breaks. Watch a lot of your reactions but definitely the bonham videos.
Quick comment on pedals John kept breaking pedals that were nylon driven and he built his own chain driven pedal. His father was a carpenter and he was a brick layer as a kid.
Late to the party, but so happy to catch up with Led Zeppelin week. I was 4.5 Years old when this came out. I probably heard it from then on. I am such a huge John Bonham fan. His playing makes me feel good, not based on any knowledge, just the pure joy it inspires. I really appreciate and feel plenty of other drummers, but nothing reaches the same place as Bonham.
Non Led Zepp fans don't matter Andrew and if there are any, best to ignore as for they do not know music as it should be played !!!! Greatest Rock And Roll band ever, sold over 350 million albums world wide!!! ( Just a measuring stick ;)
This is why I consider Bonham the greatest rock drummer. No disrespect to Peart, he's awesome, but I think you could replace him with another incredible drummer who's studied his style and most Rush fans would not know the difference. Any Zep fan would immediately feel it if it wasn't Bonham back there! And then there's just the subjective preference of Bonham's creativity, which no one can top in my book. I think Mitchell and Moon are the only ones in the same league. I'd put Ringo up there too in that category (definitely NOT Baker! - that oughta start something...) Again, Peart is amazing, but his choices are too "on the money" for me, if that makes sense. But to each their own - GREAT VIDEO!!
I remembered that Baker comment too. I’m not so sure he was wrong, I only say that because I’m not certain. It’s been said Charlie Watts of the Stones was a jazz drummer, but I can’t hear it. In my book Bonham is right there after Bill Ward as far as favorites go.
20 years old he had his first real kit at 15. 5 years he was at that before he joined Zeppelin, he was banging pots and pans since he was a toddler, self taught amazing. Rock on
YES! Can you imagine being 11 and hearing this for the first time🔥🔥 So glad you honored our request to do this THANKS ANDREW great insight can't wait until tomorrow!!!! That John Bonham 😘
Happy New Year could not get off to a better start than Andy doing Led Zep week! A New Year's week to celebrate literally ALL week long! :) Thank you Susanne for joining me in this quest to get Led Zep's epic first album reviewed by the best drum channel out there! :)
I saw led zeppelin back in 1968 at Surrey university what you don’t really realise how loud he was in a small venue and the flyer for the gig was the new yardbirds then saw them in marquee club after that I was hooked still have all the original albums as they came out
I also had to go back and rewatch the Yoyoka covers of the this. Her 8 y/o version was a little off at times but she was doing the single foot triplets, and considering she learned it by ear, is still very impressive. Her remake at age 11 was even tighter. 👍😎
One of the BEST rock bands EVER....!!!! I do not think any of their music is bad. I especially enjoy their version of traditional folk style songs (Gallows Pole, the Rain Song) and a truckload of more.... Andrew take care, thank for the lesson..., have a wonderful New Year.
@@commonman317 there’s an interview on RUclips with carmine discussing John Bonham, m.ruclips.net/video/jKRYEFZoOVc/видео.html Check it out it’s a good listen 👍
Bonham claimed to have gotten that bass triplet from Carmine Appice. Appice has said he doesn’t remember doing it but there are other elements of Appices playing in Bonham.
John actually got that bass triplet technique from Carmen Appice of Vanilla Fudge who Led Zeppelin opened for in '69. There's a great video (ruclips.net/video/Ceg3aRUI94s/видео.html) and the story of Carmen not remembering playing it and John pointing out where he did. I think John maybe did a little more with it though.
I understand he heard one bit of triplet bass drumming on a record by Iron Butterfly's drummer and made it a much bigger thing for himself. He also bought himself a clear Ludwig kit like the same guy used.
The first time I heard this performance in 1978 I was wholly flabbergasted. I thought an entire orchestra was playing. I tried for more than 30 years to figure out how could JH Bonham do the drums part. Usuccessfully. I was sure - as most drummers did at the time - he used double bass drum pedal. Only with the advent of RUclips, thanks to the covers of great professional drummers, I could understand the dynamics. He did all that with a snare, a tom, a single pedal bass drum, a cowbell and a couple of cymbals and I thought to myself: he's human, he is supernatural, more: he is divine. Jimmy Page said once that by listenining to GTBT you can only have a slight idea of what John Henry Bonham was about. Ipse dixit. The mistery of how he could have the sublime genius to invent this abdolutely unique grove will stay in his sacred grave. Righteously.
Apparently, Bonham got the idea ( and execution) of bass drum tiplets from Carmine Appice. Carmine himself says it in a few interviews. So Carmine was one who could do it in the rock world. Actually, Bonham`s whole drum kit ( including the gong) was based on Carmine`s.
Happy New Year! Man, I about busted a nut when I saw the review this time. The song that started it all. Massive Zep fan of course. I got a fevah, and I need more cowbell. IT's fascinating to me how much of a massive influence Jazz had on Rock. I've known about the blues thing for a long time, thank you for the education. Bonham was my fav. for a very long time.
Happy New Year Andrew! Thank you to the Patreons who made this week possible!! Bonham really set the stage for Zep with this first song. I'm not a musician at all and even I knew this was badass drumming. Great start to a new year!!
I first heard this in 1970 when I was 17 and my mate introduced me to them.... Because we were lucky enough to have SO much variety in our music back in those days of growing up in th 60's... and I had the advantage of my parents listening to a whore rage of music, especially swing... and I grew up with the Beatles changing styles every record and lamost every trsck, so it's difficult to explain to people and get them to undertand that this was yet anothet new record that was damn good and nothing like anything that was around... Having said that... I also mean that we KNEW they were bloody good, listen to the arrangement and the parts that ALL four of them play to make the whole. It combined to make something that developed into a powerhouse. We knew they were special and eagerly waited for the next record and they never dissapointed. I was lucky enough to see them in the mid seventies in a 3.000 seater old Playhouse/theatre in Glasgow and I can still remember it 50 years later. I swear at one point the galery was moving with all the stamping in time going on... Incredible days and I have loeved them ever since. To go back to your point about understanding the technicalities of what he was doing... as a non-musician, no, I didn't... BUT, for those who listened, and I was one of them, you could pick out every part he played and it was the FEEL that soaked into your bones as you listened to this band. I loved the way lve Jimmy would often either guide John or be guided by him for their musical cues. They were so tight... it just need a look or a gesture. One final thing I promise... I've always wondered if the cowbell is an overdub.... it seems almost impossible to play all tat other stuff and mix in the cowbell as well. But of Bonham I would believe anything. Keep on rocikng and sorry for the essay.
Interesting fact from a documentary that John Bonham said he got that bass triplet from Carmine Appice from Vanilla Fudge. Even Carmine couldn't remember when he did it and had to really think about it. Enjoying Led Zeppelin week thanks again Andrew!
I was in college at the time and played guitar (not so well) at the time. This is without a doubt the most mind-blowing opening track of any rock album, ever. Hearing it affected me even more than hearing Jimi Hendrix for the first time.
Preamp saturation was the order of the day when recording rock musicians back in the late 60's and early 70's... that's what you're hearing on this recording and as you said the 'live' in-studio feel of this means the cymbals creating masking on the drums in places, but Bonham was unique in his swing and overall feel.... although his timing was really tight.... great analysis Andrew as always.
Jimi Hendrix apparently saw Zeppelin perform in 1969, and afterwards he told Bonham, "Boy, you've got a right foot like a rabbit." Happy New Year, Andrew!
One thing I remember Mr. Jimmy saying was that Bonham would bring out a second base drum and Jimmy had to take it away from him as he was already too intense.
such a unique one for Bonzo. He never really did anything like it again. I always wonder if it originated from an old drum exercise book he had or something??
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When you combine real slick groove with excellent chops.... you end up with magic... almost impossible to imitate. This album, this first track shocked the Rock n Roll world... especially the triplets on the kick drum, which were immediately interpreted as being 2 kick drums. Also, when Jeff Beck listened to this album, his first comment was, "He's trying to destroy me...", meaning Jimmy Page.
So glad I saw this!!! first heard the opening of this song in late 1968 - US underground radio and never looked back!! So looking forward to this ☺ Regards to @finessemuse2123!!❤
Hi Susan! Thanks for the New Year's wishes 2023! :) I hope you have a great New Year as well! So fun taking this Bonzo Zep journey with Andy from the earliest days of his channel. You know Bonzo is my favorite member of Zep and I was drawn to Andy's channel from his beginnings on the channel with his review of Bonzo Moby Dick at Royal Albert Hall. I was pumped when he agreed to cover the first album with LZ week! :)
The first song on the first album I ever bought - whatever the aural equivalent of "sight unseen" is, based on my 19 YO cousin persuading me to open my 10 YO's wallet. I'd never heard of LZ, nor heard anything like them. What a mindbender for a young boy!
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Imagine your first song, on the first album and drumming like that. What an entrance
No one talking about the creativity. The parts are easy. Its the assembly
He was 20. Years. Old. On the first song off the debut album of the greatest rock band of all time. Amazing.
And he didn't start learning drumming until he was 15!!!! Think of it. Within 5 years he became the drummer for the greatest rock band of all time. He was one of four musical geniuses who, through serendipity, came together at the right time.
What’s really amazing too, they only played together about 2 months, before recording this album. Page had like 2 weeks to find band members, & their first rehearsal was on August 19, the day before Plants 20th birthday. I’m not sure how many gigs they played as The New Yardbirds, but by sometime in October, over 4 days it was recoded produced mixed & edited by Page. How quick they played so amazing together, like different parts of one musician. Then with lives & improvising, & still fitting like a glove, all 4 being the GOATS of their crafts made all the difference.
Bonham didn't just play drums. He played music with drums.
John Paul Jones bass line during the guitar solo. JPJ is the glue holding a lot of the Zeppelin tunes together in my opinion.
Amen!
I absolutely agree. JPJ is just an amazing all-around *musician*. One of the best concerts I ever saw - by far - was JPJ on his solo tour for the Zooma album in 1999. He played bass, keyboards, lap steel, guitar and mandolin. And anyone who never got to see him in a live setting could never comprehend the POWER he put out. Him and his band literally had the building shaking! It was amazing.
Page should have joined up with JPJ at the demise of ZEP because he brought a lot of the monster riffs to the band.
Ugh, so much more than glue. I know what you are saying, but glue is sticky and slow. Jones was super fast, always improvising, and never repeating the same thing twice. John Paul Jones was the best musician in the group and was doing far more complex harmonic leading progressions than most rock bassists could do.... the glue is the rhythm guitar track that jimmy laid down the first time through. Jones on bass was doing crazy lead bass jazz style funky walking things that most people never had imagined at that time in rock music. Literally the only person in the group who never plays the same thing the same way twice... that's John Paul Jones. ALWAYS changing it, ALWAYS improvising, and solid as a rock.
JPJ also stated in an old Guitar magazine I have that this was his toughest base riff out of all the music in the Zep library.
Most drummers won't understand this, but Bonham was obviously born with perfect pitch, and it effects his sound immensely. He probably didn't even realize it, as most people won't. His drums are so perfectly tuned that his entire kit resonates like a guitar chord with perfect intonation.
Makes perfect sense, very insightful comment 👍
🤔I wonder how much Jimmy Page had to do with that drum sound, he was a master producer with years of experience as a session player
@@house9Tube A lot. He recorded drums like nobody ever had. He was willing to experiment with odd mic placements and microphones most people wouldn't use for drums. I once read that Bonzo recorded in a Crow's Nest above the band on some occasions. Page loved using different kinds of rooms, too.
@@house9Tube Yes but Jimmy didn't tune Mr. Bonham's Drums!
Cheers!
I agree! He could sing "in tune" as well.
Led Zeppelin's music will forever be timeless.
Yup they'll be listened to forever
@@AndrewRooneyDrumsThat's exactly "the song remains the same".
The Introduction to the
Greatest Debut album
In Rock history. Period.
That first album is all killer, no filler. It must have been jarring at the time it came out. Such a different sound from Cream, Hendrix, The Who, and everything else that came before Zeppelin. The drums & the bass are so incredible, and of course the guitars & vocals. Impossible to overrate this album.
Agreed
Agreed
Poor Ginger Baker had to hear this as the first example of Bonham’s talents,no wonder he said “Bonham can’t swing like I do”. I guess this was the reason he was such a miserable bastard.
All killer, no filler...a Metal Mythos fan?
@@timbrady6473 and Bonham swings much better than Ginger ever could dream of.
Funny that, in the 60s, we had no idea that so much of what we were listening to was so "far ahead of its time." We just took it for granted that we had great music.
They had 15 hours of rehearsal time, were still finishing New Yardbird gigs and recorded this. Amazing.
That's mad!
The first album is BY FAR the greatest Zep album. Nothing else was ever as good. It stands alone as one of the few very very greatest albums in history.
Still some bangers on latter albums though!
"Heavy Feet, Light Hands" OK, I'm gonna make a sign for the wall of my little studio... that's awesome and very true!
Do it Matt!
Bonzo introduced the chain drive to replace the existing belt drive pedals.
I don't know if you will ever go back to read comments made on older videos, but I just wanted to say thank you for being one of, if not the only one that mentioned that Bonzo was so damn young when they recorded this. It goes without saying that he was also too damn young when he died also
The Ludwig Speed King bass drum pedal was the best pedal at the time.
That's how Bonzo was able to pull off those clean and powerful triplets.
No other band had the drums so prominently out front,integral to their sound.
I always imagine Ginger Baker destroying a room or punching the first person he saw after listening to this song .
Why wouldn’t you if your drummer is Bonham! 🙌
To me, Zeppelin always seemed like a race car or downhill skier pushing to the edge of out of control but so great they always win the race. Most bands seemed to have a recognizable formula they followed and Zep just seemed to say, no, we’re not doing it that way. You’re going to be breathing hard and wondering what just happened when we’re done.
Love it Geoff!!
Never get tired of listening to that track. Bonzo just oozed swagger. Forgot how melodic his drum part was in this track till I re-listened today. Damn.
I am sort of addicted to this track, the opening bars give me a high
This song: track one, side one, blew me away as a kid and made me a lifelong fan. Those fills...that sound, and I was a bassist at heart. Great reaction. Love tomsee Zep back.
Jimmy opened every single other album with a barnstormer...Whole Lotta Love, Immigrant Song, Black Dog, etc. This one is kind of a barnstormer, but the most obvious choice would have been Communication Breakdown. I think Jimmy deliberately chose this one to open their debut album as if to say, "Look at this frickin drummer I'VE got!!!"
Robert has said Jimmy liked to play right in front of the drums, let them drive him on.
Jimmy has said that about anybody could do those bass drum triplets...nobody but Bonzo could do them ALL DAY LONG like Bonzo
God damn.. that opening guitar sound is awesome
“In the cracks playing”-great way to describe Bonham’s playing to a nonpro, mate.
According to Carmine Appice, he asked Bonham about those single bass triplets and he said he got from him. Carmine was like "Huh? When did I do *that*?"Apparently he showed him on the Vanilla Fudge cover of "Ticket To Ride." Though, I've listened to the studio version anyway and I'm not seeing what he's talking about, though the bass drum is a little difficult to hear in the mix. Something tells me, whatever Bonham heard is not what he actually ended up doing with it. An inspiration maybe.
One of the best displays of Bonham's virtuosity, IMHO. His ability to hit "in the crack," as you say, is part of his signature, possibly more evident in the earlier recordings. Great vid!
Heavy feet, light hands. Always learning from you!
HEY ANDREW..GREAT TUNE... BONHAM SAID IN INTERVIEWS HE KNICKED THOSE QUICK TRIPLET KICKS FROM CARMINE APPICE FROM VANILLA FUDGE.,AND CARMINE HAS CONFIRMED THIS IN MANY INTERVIEWS...Oh crap my caps were on but I'm too lazy this am to rewrite it.bc I'm recovering from Covid..Nice breakdown as always..✌️🤘
When John Bonham was born, his heart stopped. The doctor delivering him restarted his heart. The attending physician had just listened to a song on the car radio by Stan Kenton. The drum rhythm on that song affected the pattern of the thumping of Baby Bonzo’s chest by the doctor affected everything Bonham played.
Bonham's foot killing it yet again. Thanks for the review and Happy New Year!
Robert Plant said Bonham was self taught(as was Jimmy Page) and had a metronome where his heart was supposed to be. No wonder he was(is) the best ever.
For being only 20 yo, Bonzo's playing sounds really mature!! His feel is amazing. I love it! 🤩
I'm trying to remember exactly when I heard this for the first time. It was probably around '69 or '70, around 11 or 12 years old.
That said, 50+ years later it still stands the test of time.
Oh, the apple didn't fall far from tree, his son Jason during the show at O2 arena with the band does his dad proud playing the old man's drum kit on this and many others during that show.
John Bonham always had mad skills. Thanks Andrew.
Insanely good playing
I'm a life long fan of Zeppelin and you have given me a better insight into how they did what they did. Cheers Andrew, all the best for the new year!
IMHO all the best rock drummers have jazz roots. My two favorites John Bonham and Bill Ward
John Densmore from The Doors is really good. He had a heavy jazz influence. You should check out some of their stuff. LA Woman is a good start
Andrew: Have you listened to the Bonham isolated drum tracks readily available on boots and online? They’re revelatory, even for a non-drummer.
John's parents loved listening & dancing to Gene Krupa Big Band records. It's no wonder why a then baby Bonzo was influenced (mesmerized) so young by such a legendary drummer. Gene was quite melodic in style, but had great groove, a solid pocket, pretty amazing chops, & a true understanding of dynamics. I'm pretty sure John was also influenced by Joe Morello's hand drumming, then again baby John was beating his mum's pots & pans way before he ever heard of or saw Morello. John may have been influenced by the Great Max Roach too. John paid homage to him playing an intro of one of Roach's solos for his Moby Dick solo. Lastly, had John's main influence been Buddy Rich rather than Krupa, I don't think he'd be as great a drummer, or had as fine a touch. Rich had finesse too - HE HAD EVERYTHING - but imo his patented style was mostly a no holds barred, unrelenting, unrestrained, in your face monster flurry, a kick your arse bombardment with max volume, & blistering speed killer chops! His aggressive style went hand in hand with his fiery personality.
Bonzo is my forever favorite! His inhuman Power, Talent, Genius as a Drummer will never fade or be forgotten!
Cheers John!
Nobody covers Zeppelin well.. lol some of the best drummers alive technically may know the song "note for note" but aint nobody "sound" like him.. some of the best grooves ever ever ❤
Well you got to check out yoyoka cover when she was 8 and her remake cover on her 12th birthday studio version. And also check out a reaction video by Robert Plant on her cover of this song. He was over the moon in his reaction.
Just say NO to cover bands
Ian Paice was also very good at doing triplets. Bonham was good, but so was Paice and Ward.
Ohhh yess I would put Ian Paice in the same pedestal as Gene Krupa, Gene Kelly, John Bonham, or Buddy Rich. No doubt about it.
I will tell you what we were thinking....."wow!" Outstanding!!!
Yup!
Dude dropped a career on us in the intro.
I have a Tom Waits concert from 1976 that I listen to often. His drummer at the time was a jazz guy named Chip White. Toward the end, during band introductions, Chip White does a fairly brief solo. The similarities between what John Bonham did and what Chip was doing there are strong. So yeah, it's obvious Bonzo came from a jazz backgound.
Yes John!
Yep Not a drummer here, a guitar player but I love Bonhams playing. This is one of my favorite Bonham songs after If the levee breaks. Watch a lot of your reactions but definitely the bonham videos.
Quick comment on pedals
John kept breaking pedals that were nylon driven and he built his own chain driven pedal. His father was a carpenter and he was a brick layer as a kid.
Hmmm... Really? 🤔 I thought his exclusive Pedal was the #201 Speed King. I mean you can hear it squeek on some of the
Zeppelin tracks.
About those pedals....Bonham and Bill Ward were buddies , but Bill said that when Bonzo played on his kit , he would pretty much trash it.
Bonham had many influences, tore it apart, rearranged it to make it his own.
I remember my first time hearing this song. My reaction was “how the hell is he doing this?“.
Late to the party, but so happy to catch up with Led Zeppelin week. I was 4.5 Years old when this came out. I probably heard it from then on. I am such a huge John Bonham fan. His playing makes me feel good, not based on any knowledge, just the pure joy it inspires. I really appreciate and feel plenty of other drummers, but nothing reaches the same place as Bonham.
Check out my Bonham playlist!!!
Non Led Zepp fans don't matter Andrew and if there are any, best to ignore as for they do not know music as it should be played !!!!
Greatest Rock And Roll band ever, sold over 350 million albums world wide!!!
( Just a measuring stick ;)
Their first song on record, and one of my absolute favourites! 😁👌
It’s that kinda undefinable swing that you speak of. SO intriguing!
This is why I consider Bonham the greatest rock drummer. No disrespect to Peart, he's awesome, but I think you could replace him with another incredible drummer who's studied his style and most Rush fans would not know the difference. Any Zep fan would immediately feel it if it wasn't Bonham back there! And then there's just the subjective preference of Bonham's creativity, which no one can top in my book. I think Mitchell and Moon are the only ones in the same league. I'd put Ringo up there too in that category (definitely NOT Baker! - that oughta start something...) Again, Peart is amazing, but his choices are too "on the money" for me, if that makes sense. But to each their own - GREAT VIDEO!!
My favorite quote about Bonham is from Cream drummer Ginger Baker.. he said Bonham couldn’t swing a sack of sh*t…He’s wrong but funny
I remembered that Baker comment too. I’m not so sure he was wrong, I only say that because I’m not certain. It’s been said Charlie Watts of the Stones was a jazz drummer, but I can’t hear it. In my book Bonham is right there after Bill Ward as far as favorites go.
20 years old he had his first real kit at 15. 5 years he was at that before he joined Zeppelin, he was banging pots and pans since he was a toddler, self taught amazing. Rock on
YES! Can you imagine being 11 and hearing this for the first time🔥🔥 So glad you honored our request to do this THANKS ANDREW great insight can't wait until tomorrow!!!! That John Bonham 😘
Happy New Year could not get off to a better start than Andy doing Led Zep week! A New Year's week to celebrate literally ALL week long! :) Thank you Susanne for joining me in this quest to get Led Zep's epic first album reviewed by the best drum channel out there! :)
I saw led zeppelin back in 1968 at Surrey university what you don’t really realise how loud he was in a small venue and the flyer for the gig was the new yardbirds then saw them in marquee club after that I was hooked still have all the original albums as they came out
I also had to go back and rewatch the Yoyoka covers of the this. Her 8 y/o version was a little off at times but she was doing the single foot triplets, and considering she learned it by ear, is still very impressive. Her remake at age 11 was even tighter. 👍😎
I am addicted to these opening bars, it gives me a high. Keep coming back to it. Delicious
I find his playing tastier than what the transcription suggests.
You can't capture Bonham with notes
Debut album...incredible!! Imagine us hearing it when it came out! Yes a cowbell.
to me, his playing style is like watching a snowboarding just freestyle on a park. Just creative, stylish and loud
One of the BEST rock bands EVER....!!!! I do not think any of their music is bad. I especially enjoy their version of traditional folk style songs (Gallows Pole, the Rain Song) and a truckload of more.... Andrew take care, thank for the lesson..., have a wonderful New Year.
Thanks Mike!
His inspiration for the bass triplets came from Carmine Apice from vanilla fudge, who also introduced him to Ludwig drums 👍
I heard it the other way. Carmine asked John how to do his bass drum triplets.
@@commonman317 there’s an interview on RUclips with carmine discussing John Bonham, m.ruclips.net/video/jKRYEFZoOVc/видео.html
Check it out it’s a good listen 👍
Bonham claimed to have gotten that bass triplet from Carmine Appice. Appice has said he doesn’t remember doing it but there are other elements of Appices playing in Bonham.
John actually got that bass triplet technique from Carmen Appice of Vanilla Fudge who Led Zeppelin opened for in '69. There's a great video (ruclips.net/video/Ceg3aRUI94s/видео.html) and the story of Carmen not remembering playing it and John pointing out where he did. I think John maybe did a little more with it though.
I understand he heard one bit of triplet bass drumming on a record by Iron Butterfly's drummer and made it a much bigger thing for himself.
He also bought himself a clear Ludwig kit like the same guy used.
Great analysis Andrew. Loved it and the "Internal dynamics" description of Bonham's style with the light hands and heavy feet.
Led Zeppelin true gods of Rock
Yup!
The day after I got my led Zeppelin tickets in the mail in 1980 John Bonham died a sad day in rock and roll
Bonzo was the greatest and still is
Definitely one of my favorites. Love the acoustics and drums! Have always loved bass and drums as a kid and still do.
Excellent Sandra
Oooh rockin’ the Zeppelin tee. Keep Zeppelin flying high! Happy New Year indeed! 🎉
You are another early Led Zep supporter! Thank you!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Anytime. All roads lead to Led. 🤘
The first time I heard this performance in 1978 I was wholly flabbergasted. I thought an entire orchestra was playing. I tried for more than 30 years to figure out how could JH Bonham do the drums part. Usuccessfully. I was sure - as most drummers did at the time - he used double bass drum pedal. Only with the advent of RUclips, thanks to the covers of great professional drummers, I could understand the dynamics. He did all that with a snare, a tom, a single pedal bass drum, a cowbell and a couple of cymbals and I thought to myself: he's human, he is supernatural, more: he is divine. Jimmy Page said once that by listenining to GTBT you can only have a slight idea of what John Henry Bonham was about. Ipse dixit. The mistery of how he could have the sublime genius to invent this abdolutely unique grove will stay in his sacred grave. Righteously.
Those triples were a heartbeat in this one
So good
Apparently, Bonham got the idea ( and execution) of bass drum tiplets from Carmine Appice. Carmine himself says it in a few interviews. So Carmine was one who could do it in the rock world.
Actually, Bonham`s whole drum kit ( including the gong) was based on Carmine`s.
Happy New Year! Man, I about busted a nut when I saw the review this time. The song that started it all. Massive Zep fan of course. I got a fevah, and I need more cowbell. IT's fascinating to me how much of a massive influence Jazz had on Rock. I've known about the blues thing for a long time, thank you for the education. Bonham was my fav. for a very long time.
Happy New Year Andrew! Thank you to the Patreons who made this week possible!! Bonham really set the stage for Zep with this first song. I'm not a musician at all and even I knew this was badass drumming. Great start to a new year!!
Speed king you can actually hear it squeeking on some tracks
I first heard this in 1970 when I was 17 and my mate introduced me to them.... Because we were lucky enough to have SO much variety in our music back in those days of growing up in th 60's... and I had the advantage of my parents listening to a whore rage of music, especially swing... and I grew up with the Beatles changing styles every record and lamost every trsck, so it's difficult to explain to people and get them to undertand that this was yet anothet new record that was damn good and nothing like anything that was around... Having said that... I also mean that we KNEW they were bloody good, listen to the arrangement and the parts that ALL four of them play to make the whole. It combined to make something that developed into a powerhouse. We knew they were special and eagerly waited for the next record and they never dissapointed. I was lucky enough to see them in the mid seventies in a 3.000 seater old Playhouse/theatre in Glasgow and I can still remember it 50 years later. I swear at one point the galery was moving with all the stamping in time going on... Incredible days and I have loeved them ever since.
To go back to your point about understanding the technicalities of what he was doing... as a non-musician, no, I didn't... BUT, for those who listened, and I was one of them, you could pick out every part he played and it was the FEEL that soaked into your bones as you listened to this band. I loved the way lve Jimmy would often either guide John or be guided by him for their musical cues. They were so tight... it just need a look or a gesture.
One final thing I promise... I've always wondered if the cowbell is an overdub.... it seems almost impossible to play all tat other stuff and mix in the cowbell as well. But of Bonham I would believe anything. Keep on rocikng and sorry for the essay.
Aynsley Dunbar also had a heavy foot. Listen to Kohoutek from the fiist Journey album 1975. The whole album is awesome.
Interesting fact from a documentary that John Bonham said he got that bass triplet from Carmine Appice from Vanilla Fudge. Even Carmine couldn't remember when he did it and had to really think about it.
Enjoying Led Zeppelin week thanks again Andrew!
I was in college at the time and played guitar (not so well) at the time. This is without a doubt the most mind-blowing opening track of any rock album, ever. Hearing it affected me even more than hearing Jimi Hendrix for the first time.
The album was recorded in 36 hours studio time.
This shows that Zep were pros from the very beginning.
Preamp saturation was the order of the day when recording rock musicians back in the late 60's and early 70's... that's what you're hearing on this recording and as you said the 'live' in-studio feel of this means the cymbals creating masking on the drums in places, but Bonham was unique in his swing and overall feel.... although his timing was really tight.... great analysis Andrew as always.
Jimi Hendrix apparently saw Zeppelin perform in 1969, and afterwards he told Bonham, "Boy, you've got a right foot like a rabbit."
Happy New Year, Andrew!
That's odd because in the 1970 interview on the day Hendrix died Plant and Page were asked if they ever met Hendrix. Plant said no and Page said once.
@@lyndoncmp5751 "and afterwards he told *Bonham..."*
I heard the quote was "a right foot like pair of castanets", but the gist is definitely the same: his right foot was supernaturally fast!
One thing I remember Mr. Jimmy saying was that Bonham would bring out a second base drum and Jimmy had to take it away from him as he was already too intense.
such a unique one for Bonzo. He never really did anything like it again. I always wonder if it originated from an old drum exercise book he had or something??
thanks for your channel, as a heavy zep head over 30 years, i can learn more of that greatness and find new stuff! 🤯
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Love the change in your props to the Ludwig Supraphonic snare! That's the size that I play, but JB used the 6.5" deep snare.
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When you combine real slick groove with excellent chops.... you end up with magic... almost impossible to imitate.
This album, this first track shocked the Rock n Roll world... especially the triplets on the kick drum, which were immediately interpreted as being 2 kick drums.
Also, when Jeff Beck listened to this album, his first comment was, "He's trying to destroy me...", meaning Jimmy Page.
LOVING you doing zep in order!!
There is a vid,on RUclips,with John gearing up Dr John (Right Place,Wrong Time) for Jason playing along.Find it!
This song meant so much to my generation - first LZ album, side one, first song. Our lives were never the same after that. I was 14 at the time.
Shannon Larkin's drums in Godsmack's cover of this song are really good as well if you haven't heard it.
I’m glad I’m not the only one loving the Godsmack version too.
So glad I saw this!!! first heard the opening of this song in late 1968 - US underground radio and never looked back!! So looking forward to this ☺ Regards to @finessemuse2123!!❤
Hi Susan! Thanks for the New Year's wishes 2023! :) I hope you have a great New Year as well! So fun taking this Bonzo Zep journey with Andy from the earliest days of his channel. You know Bonzo is my favorite member of Zep and I was drawn to Andy's channel from his beginnings on the channel with his review of Bonzo Moby Dick at Royal Albert Hall. I was pumped when he agreed to cover the first album with LZ week! :)
Bonham was a beast between 1968 and 76 .
Hell yeah he was
They'd only met four weeks before they made this album -believe it or not - and it took 30 - yes - 30 hours to complete its recording . . !
The first song on the first album I ever bought - whatever the aural equivalent of "sight unseen" is, based on my 19 YO cousin persuading me to open my 10 YO's wallet. I'd never heard of LZ, nor heard anything like them. What a mindbender for a young boy!
Could mention lots of drummers of that era here's 2 Apice and Paice lots to react to with just them lol 😆
"This bit's squeaking....."
SIBLY would like a word.
he's using a speed king ludwig bass pedal
Dazed and Confused is an encyclopedia of drum techniques collected in one song.