Drum Teacher Reaction: JOHN BONHAM is a SAVAGE! 'Dazed And Confused' (Track 4 Led Zeppelin) 🤯🙌
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What was amazing too, at least early on, Bonham didn’t read music either. I heard he did later on, but I’m not sure when, plus being self taught. In my opinion all that & being the greatest drummer ever, in the greatest band ever. Bonham definitely shined in the majority of their songs, there’s a few he didn’t play in, when he did you knew he was there. The perfect band, for an amazing drummer like him, & why they couldn’t go on without him.
To answer your first question, "what's shaking?" The earth, the earth was shaking when Zeppelin played.
John Paul jones was very underrated as part of the group. He wrote and arranged much of their music.
100% agree
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Agreed and yet a perfect unit.
He was never underrated between bass/ keys songwriting he was selected by Page over the phone
Underappreciated then.
Musicians know him well. He didn't seek the spotlight- the other three gave plenty of material for the casual fans to go wild over. JPJ is the glue of the group(yes, very cliché)
And all of 20 years of age when he recoded this. He and Plant both. They were frikkin' kids.
It's just mad
Can we give a shot out to JPJ’s killer bass on this track, Roberts voice is so strong and delicate at 19 20 YO
Amazing as always!! Nobody was better than Zeppelin!
Incredible
They conducted plagiarism on a ridiculous scale.yes they were good musicians.yes john was one of the best drummers of his generation.yes they stold peoples music and later in life they were sued for tens of millions of dollars on the down low.meaning they settled with the artists they ripped off in a quiet manner without the attention of the publicity that would have ruined them completely and totally.just giving you something to think about when you say no other band in history was better.sorry for the bad news.i did not take it well when I researched their blatant plagiarism.i was shocked.
@@michaelpatterson9119You’re not the first to revisit this. And be that as it may, whatever components of every artist whose music was melded into Led Zeppelin’s masterpieces, those original artists ought to have been very grateful. Heck, they should have paid homage to LZ. Why? Because the off-the-charts artistic genius in Led Zeppelin’s renditions were that utterly amazing. Moreover, in light of the substantial passage of time, ostensibly the world now identifies much closer with Led Zeppelin’s renditions than with the originals. The dust has settled…relax…try to enjoy their music for what it is, pure masterful genius.
The call and response between the bass and the drums was happening at the same time as the call and response between the voice and guitar.
Good catch
Just mind blowing, 54 years later!
Yup
while Bonham and Jones were performing call and response so were Page and Plant. Incredible.
Real masculinity in his playing, that’s a man’s man right there.
HEAVY
The real mind blowing thing is that these guys were early 20’s creating this amazing music! They all had a gift, Bonzo was the most gifted of course!
Jimmy was the band leader, who had most of the ideas for the music to begin with, composed most of it and produced it himself without an engineer. John Paul Jones was a music arranger and could play a variety of instruments including keyboards and bass at the same time. Robert Plant had an extraordinary voice, great flexibility and range, was a great lyricist and a wonderful harmonica player, and all four gelled so well they could improvise together at will, so you can't really say one was more gifted than the others. They were really a band of equals.
All true, but this is a Bonham / drum oriented video.😉
Actually John was still 19 when he first played with them also he didn't get his first drum set until he was 15 when his dad bought it for him his mother bought him a snare drum when he was 10 to stop him from beating up her pots n pans
Robert was also only 19 when they started. And yes, the band was far more than the sum of its parts!
@@rickandgen well depending on what month they first got together Jimmy says one date and Robert says another date but yes you can say both Robert n John were 19 years old Robert August 20th 1948 John May 31 1948
John Paul Jones January 3 1946 Happy birthday btw
Jimmy January 9th 1944 another birthday boy coming up Happy birthday Jimmy
You are one of the first people I have seen that mention Bonham's high hat work.
To me, Bonham's high hat work is one of the keys to his style and groove.
And no, I am not a drummer but I sure do appreciate amazingly talented musicians.
💯Grady. All the grease is in those hats!!
The comment on his left foot acting as his metronome helps to explain why Bonham's fills always fit, exactly. Some drummers, even really great drummers, their fills still end up a little messy. Bonham's never. They always crash out right on the exact note. So I think this is a demonstration of a band working as a whole. Bonham wasn't simply providing rhythm, he was 1/4th of the entire song production. He understood precisely what the others wanted the whole thing to sound like before he even picked up his sticks.
I remember listening to Zeppelin for the first time as a youngster. And I remember being blown away by all 4 musicians (I didn’t know any of them) but as I listened on, the inevitable question to myself came: “Oh my goodness WHO IS THIS DRUMMER!” Everyone has this moment with Led Zeppelin RIP John Bonham!
A great example of Bonzo knowing when not to play drums, on TSRTS movie you can see JPJ looking for direction Bonzo shacking his head no not yet then he comes in . Priceless
my hero for 50 years now,, , i still imagine what it would be like he was still with us , he was the best and still is
Who knows where he would have ended up!
This song and album came out a full year prior to Black Sabbath's first album. Led Zeppelin's first two albums were released prior to Black Sabbath releasing anything. Led Zeppelin clearly had a huge influence on Black Sabbath.
I think he'll go crazy when he covers "how many more times"
Can't wait
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Your Mind will be Blown Mate!
Or Good Times Bad Times. The fills in that song are NASTY
This is the tracks that started me on my Led Zeppelin journey. So raw and yet still soulful 🔥
Even on first listen, you could tell that this is 4 musicians pushing musical boundaries.
Still sounds fresh, blows me away to this day.
I'm a big Black Sabbath and Led Zep fan, my 2 favourite bands and you're right there's no coincidence these 2 shared many similarities, different bands yes, but they were friends, John Bonham was best man at Tony Iommis wedding, both lads from Birmingham, blues based and took it to another world, shaping heavy metal as we know it.
Dazed and Confused is essentially a Doom metal song and wouldn't look out of place on Black Sabbath 1970 or Paranoid 1971
i was a senior in high school when this album came out. me and my buddies had no idea what this was, but we listened to it over and over. basically speechless accompanied by lots of head shaking.
Thanks for this Zeppelin week Andrew and Patreons. I love hearing your analysis even though I'm not a drummer. It's a lot of fun learning phrases and names of things I've heard most of my life. So heartbreaking that John died so young. Thank God I stopped drinking 13+ years ago or I would most likely have had a similar result. God bless, Andrew!
This song in the movie "The Song Remains the Same" was by far the the best version for Jimmy Page but Bonham was as always on it that night. To get to see these guys live is a real treat. Dazed and Confused was about 21 minutes long in the Movie. Nobody does that anymore.
The MSG 1973 versions of every song are my favorites. The entire band was on top of their game! Untouchable!!
@@billbowman3413 Awesome show. I bought it on Amazon prime and watch it all of the time. I saw it when it 1st came out in the theaters. Yes, I am old, it was mind blowing back then and still is to me. The fun part was as soon as the lights went out almost everyone lit up and the crowd broke out laughing.
Don't forget Bonzo's Tour De Force lengthy arse +/- 30 min. Drum Solos! A Miraculous Monsta' of a Drummer!
He was 20 years old when he recorded these drums
Jimmy Page and the Yardbirds performed a version of this piece in their live shows. You can find a version of it on RUclips titled “I’m Confused.” It might be interesting for you to compare the two.
Listen out for the squeaky drum pedal on 'Since I've been loving you'
Wrong album
Gotta see this live 1973 at MSG...you are missing out watching them!!
Yes I will Julie!
Thanks for your reaction to the best band ever ❤
Love that song !! I wasn't even alive when this was written, my parents were teenagers, and we still listen and LOVE this !
One of the greatest rocks songs ever.
'Whole lotta love' has got the best Bonham left-foot timekeeping sound, w delicate cymbal pings and bongos and congas in the background. I hope you do a drum cover and reaction of that song!
Edit: haha, i'm late, i see the vlog of 'Whole lotta..' is on your playlist!!!!
Side one complete 💯🥁 And what an ending!!! BONHAM is Bonham 😘 no one like him ever. And I'll go out on a limb and predict he will go places 🤪 Thanks Andrew
The live version at the Albert Hall in 1970 is absolutely stunning. There is close up footage of J B which gives some insight in to his technique. Check it out you won't be disappointed.
Thanks Keith!
That was Fantastic!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You should check out the live version from Royal Albert Hall (1970)
Good morning from New England...One of many things I picked up from Bonham is keeping that left food moving..Even when my left foot is off the pedal it's still keeping that time...Some pll have said it's a bad habit but I say if it works don't mess with it..Peace from the Northeast..
"This John Bonham guy is going places...." Ha ha ha!, Great stuff! Try Royal Orleans whilst waiting......x.
I was right!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Joe morello? Just take five ..x
Yup that John Bonham guy is really going places 😂 Also now you’ve got me walking down the street thinking “chops in the pocket.” What’s happening?
OMG I cannot wait to see this!! He freaking kills on this
Around the 3 minute mark page and Bonham gave birth of what would become metal! And John Paul Jones frantic Bass! Frantic guitar frantic drums and frantic Bass that's metal!!!
I never noticed the snare buzz at the beginning of the song before!
Its all about that swing feel Groove and the famous bonham triplets.
Yup terrific feel
Hi Andrew, I beleive you reacted to this song covered by Yoyoka. You where blown away, as many of us, obviously
THE GREATEST BAND EVER HANDS DOWN!!!❤😅
If you listen to the studio version of Since I've Been Loving You, you can hear John Bonham's drum pedal squeaking in the background at the beginning. They apparently really ribbed him about this but decided to leave it in squeaks and all anyway. Its their best track in my opinion as well.
Andrew, really enjoy the videos. It's obvious you actually know what you're talking about and can back it up, but I think that what I like the most about your channel is seeing you get introduced to bands/drummers that are old to me but are newer to you because they weren't in your wheelhouse such as Neil Peart. Hope you had a great holiday season and look forward to lots more in the future.
I was at that concert from that shirt you are wearing , June 1977 Inglewood CA , they played 6 nites
We had a saying when one musician would get 'excited' and do more than what was good for the song. Whoever's part was being infringed upon would often call out: "Don't walk on me". This is why restraint is critical to a songs identity.
dont forget that Page had been working on this since the yarbirds the section at 12-40 sounds like a section of the last yardbirds album which surprise surprise includes JPJ as session bassist
Dude, you have GOT to do the Dazed and Confused from MSG '73! You can skip the drumless Jimmy bow solo in the middle, but you will NOT regret watching Jonesy and Bonzo lay down THAT stone groove live!
I have to say I've been playing that one fill wrong for about 50 years, sad as that may be. Now I have to re-learn it. You're never too old, right? Yeah, it's def. snare wires from the bass. Childhood memories, well 13 or so, anyway.
The shaking was the bass affecting the springs on the snare drum.
Few people know that this song was written and recorded by Jake Holmes before Zep. He also wrote "be all you can be....for the US Army
You really need to watch the 1973 MSG live version of the song
Call and response with just kick [ JB ordering ✌️ 2 pints from the bar ].
Speaking of dazed and confused, the version from the movie 1973 the ending drum solo , it looks like it’s speed up , I’m sure it’s not but I’ve never seen someone hit the drums like that . Maybe you drummer’s can comment on that ending solo, I play guitar . Andrew if you haven’t seen it check it out on RUclips. Thanks again Nick
If you watch how his hair moves it doesnt look sped up. If it was sped up then his hair movement would look unnaturally fast too, but it doesnt appear to be the case.
It IS a cool lick; and well worth properly pilfering.
Well played!
As a former mallet percussionist who hacked his way through the other percussionist options (well, mallets, also) - Absolutely love learning from your takes and of course the tunes are fabulous.
Thank you Joel!
Awesome analogy and break down. Great work!
Much appreciated!
The video about the iconic fill for this song is what fist put your channel on my radar 🤘
Can’t wait for side 2 you reawakened the zeppelin grove .
I hope you do Out on the Tiles, which is probably my favorite Led Zeppelin song to play along with or The Lemon Song. Both show the insane unity between JPJ and Bonzo.
Just sick bro. SICK!
I already commented but I have two requests or suggestions for you to consider. I’ve been following these guys for45 years , and I love your videos . First is the live version of the song remains the same , to me that’s another classic and an example of Page guitar orchestras , much depth to it next would be how many more times . Live from the Danish tv broadcast awesome song plus you can see Bonham the whole band is tight . Thank you keep them coming. Cheers mate from Vermont in the good ole USA .
Great suggestion! 🤘
@@AndrewRooneyDrums keep up the good work Nick 🥁
I'm 52 and have been playing drums since I was 14 and it all started with a $100 Yamaha set from the pawn shop crammed into the corner of my bedroom at my parents house in between a monster pair of Pioneer speakers with Led Zeppelin I and Led Zeppelin II spinning on the turntable.
Mind blowing 🤯😍💞👌👑🥁
Recommendation/request: Ilan Rubin. He has a number of drum cam videos up on his channel but Terrible Lie is a good one. Pretty simple at the start and great build-up. Love watching your content, keep it up!
Yup I'm on it!!!
man thanks Andrew, what a great video... I've been loving this song for I first heard it when I was a kid in the 80's... great to see it broken down and follow along with your reaction.
Song Remains The Same version always amazed me. Memorized it as a teenage LZ addict in the 70's.
Gotta do a reaction of a live version of it! Royal Albert Hall 1970 is a personal favourite of mine
basic premise of everythjng Zep has to do with where the drums emphasize and hit. The swing, swagger, swang... whatever you want to call it is because the drums are LEADING the charge rather than just supporting it. You can tell example that vocal lines often end on the leading edge of the next full beat rather than sort of "at the end" of the previous one. So the drumming always comes out as pushing the song forward without breaks.
An excellent version of "Dazed" is on the 1969 Danish TV gig. There, you can truly use the word savage (for Bonham) :)
This is part of an era where recording percussion peaked. It's usually a warm sound that doesn't diminish the sheer power of a player like Bonham letting rip.
Another example I'd recommend is Thin Lizzy: Mama Nature Said. It's the opening track from their third LP and the mighty Lizzy were still a trio. Not long after, Sitamoia comes out and has a very different, more belligerent sound and the new musical direction for the band becomes evident.
Shout out to Yardbirds who were the original recorders of this track
Oh right!
Nice info
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Jimmy Page was with Yardbirds at the time and he was the driving force behind it..
This is one of my favorite Zep tunes. I was absolutely mesmerized when I heard the opening bass line. The song is eerie yet ethereal, especially when Page pulls out the bow and uses it to play the guitar. Originally recorded by Jake Holmes and then the Yardbirds, when Page was the lead guitarist, the Zep version is much darker than the original, not to mention that the lyrics are different. There was a lot of controversy with this song as Zep didn't originally gave Holmes credit for the song. Holmes later sued and it was settled out of court. I won't rehash that since it's been beat to death, but I do recommend one listen to the 3 different versions. I've always felt that the Zep version in "The Song Remains the Same" is sung in a manner more akin to the original Holmes version. Just my opinion though.
Interesting points about the 3 versions. The original is really good, lyrically and vocally it's got an unsettling paranoid style whereas the LZ version sounds more angry/less vulnerable. The Yardbirds one is a kind of hybrid of the two with early experiments into the vocal acrobatics/harmonica use that Plant carried on. It's probably blasphemy, but I have been known to reach for the skip button once Page gets the bow out on live performances,🤫 but I love his work in the San Francisco section of D&C in TSRTS.
ESSA MÚSICA PRA MIM É O MAIS PURO RITUAL DEMONÍACO DE TODOS OS TEMPOS. ELA É SINISTRA, MACABRA, OBSCURA, DARK, CAVERNOSA E FANTÁSTICA. ESCUTEI ELA A PRIMEIRA VEZ TINHA 15 ANOS, HOJE TENHO 57, E NUNCA MAIS ESQUECI O FASCÍNIO QUE O LED EXERCEU SOBRE MIM. INDESCRITÍVEL ATÉ HOJE. LEMBRO COMO SE FOSSE HOJE DESSE DIA. A GUITARRA DE JIMMY É IMPRESSIONANTE
To really get a great “analysis “ of Bonham on this song, you really need to watch Dazed & Confused MSG 73 -fair warning it’s over 30 minutes of improvisational gold bc he always followed Jimmy but that was a walk in the park for Bonham!
Love it .the best ever in my mind
You should watch the live version. Incredible.
I bought this album and Jimmy Hendrix “ Electric Lady Land” at the same time. At the time , I thought that this was what music was. Little did I know...
"...how useful Copy and Paste is."
Hendrix said it first time he saw Bonzo he’s got a left foot like a rabbit. That’s something that’s your born with that timing , you can’t teach that , can you .
Nice. It's worthy to note that the guys from Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin used to hang out together, learn from each other and influenced one another. I heard many Sabbathesc elements in Dazed and Confused. I challenge anyone to correct me if I'm wrong.... I'm waiting.
Great point!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Andrew, coming from you, that means a lot to me, Thank You Brother! 😎
They shaking in the intro that your taking about is the tinfoil inside John Bonham's bass drum.
Oh right!
Bonzo was a beast! Thanks Andrew.
No doubt!
Thank god for John Bonham.RIP
Both LZ & Black Sabbath (most) hail from Birmingham, England. So kids went to both shows Ps Early Heavy Metal
groove central! you got it
Yes Steven
I'd never heard the high hat ticks till you mentioned them! 🤪
Theres a reason he was called hammer of the gods
Each one of these men was/is a total master of their instrument, and-or craft. We/ I had not heard anyone else do what Zep was putting out there... Bonham rated as the best rock drummer ever.... Page in the top ten, if not top five of rock guitarists.... Plus Jones could hold his own...!!!! All of these things combined may be why Zeppelin has sold over 300,000,000 units of their music.???
Bonham is always #1 on any drummers list Jimmy is usually #2 or #3 on any guitarist list it's always between Clapton or Beck for the number two spot Hendrix is always #1 personality I put Page at #1 I feel he did more with a guitar
Bonham was 20 years old in 1969
Bonham is my fave.drummer
Bonzo often had a tambourine attached to his hi-hat. That could explain the rattle you hear.
You know the other thing that people like about Bonham is just how ‘full’ his drum sound is… it just seems as if they couldn’t be hit any harder.
Perfection
Jason Bonham said his dad still sounded like his dad even when he was playing his toy drum kit that he had as a kid 😂.
This debut album, according to Page himself, was recorded and mixed in 30 hours of studio time! Jimmy Page also produced the album and even paid for the cost of recording out of his own pocket.
Then, with a complete album in hand, they went to Atlantic records seeking a contract. Based on the strength of this album, and the power of Peter Grant’s management, the band was signed to a contract that gave them COMPLETE creative control of their music, their album art and packaging, marketing strategy, singles strategy, and an advance of money that was unheard of for a new band.
In classical terms, Jimmy Page was simultaneously: a composer, conductor, and concertmaster (lead soloist)… pay him whatever he wants and leave him to it, he knows what he’s doing. 😉
PAYED? Jimmy definitely PAID for studio time... the best investment ever made by a Rock musician... fa sho!!
@@bishlap my bad, typo fixed*
Yoyoka, of course, has covered this song. Fabulously.
Yes I did that one!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Of course you did!
I believe they got the bass intro from a song called Stone Crazy recorded in 1967 by Jack Bruce,Aynsley Dunbar,Rod Stewart and Peter Green
The time Led Zeppelin recorded an album was by P.J Proby called Three week hero
More likely got the bass intro from rearranging the uncredited original by Jake Holmes ruclips.net/video/pTsvs-pAGDc/видео.html 🤪
@@snowdenwyatt6276 Dazed and Confused was written by Jake Holmes and Yardbirds vocalist Keith r e l f who Jimmy Page used to play that song with in The Yardbirds. He just added the guitar solo from the song think about it from The Yardbirds album little games.
@@richardhincemon9423 Check the Wikipedia page for the song. There's no indication that Keith Relf co-wrote it. He may have written the (changed) lyrics that the Yardbirds used when they covered the song live. But then Page changed the lyrics yet again when Zep recorded it. And none of the lyric changes changed the theme of them at all. All versions of the song have the same theme just using different words to convey it.
@AndrewRooneyDrums You gotta check out this recent drum solo by Nate Smith. It's called "Nate Smith brings everyone back to school with this drum solo". and he does just that!
If you’re going through their catalog, I can’t wait til you get to Physical Graffiti. Bonzo’s drums on that album are mind blowing. Cheers mate. 🍻
FIRE!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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So good. Thank you