The S and G song is called "Scarborough Fair." Really amazing to see the sheer fun innocence of this session. You want to just say to these guys "Do you all realize you're working on one of the greatest records of all time? Do you!?!?!" Wow.
Thanks for the update on the members. I had no idea that they were all doing so well! Well, we all go through phases in life, quoting from the venerable Bowie, "turn and face the strain..ch,ch changes" - and I do emphaisize 'strain', perhpas well noted or not, seems like good things do indeed come to an end regardless. I'd like to check out Squires art-work one of these days!
GFlowers sounds scrumptious - thanks for the referral. In old age, they eventually will, it's inevitable; human nature's way of avoiding recourse in the after-life.
Squires is a final, romantic symbol of everything that went right with the Manchester scene -- he is our melodic crusader, a hero to millions. Squires is the ultimate and perhaps final "British guitarist" (of our generation).
Quite funny watching them all muck about, imagine the task of being their manager. They look totall oblivious as to making the best album of all time, IMO.
Hence, Squire's Seahorses, allowed him this space to 'stretch' and shine with relative anonymity within this band. Court proceedings might've been about the 'tying of the knot' on this conclusion, terminating contractual obligations. Second Coming is GREAT, the momentum was not lost - it was their Abbey Road, their farewell to each other seemingly. (did they make more full length albums after this?)
Squire's symbolism, outweighed his mundanity as an artist, thus his role in the SRoses for me, was weighed heavier than the others which gave him license to be indulgent and experimental. The SHorses is him having fun, harken to posturing of 70's riffage (or, it could be of him losing it too). Ian's vocals is in it's nature demure and catalystic to the band's sound, so any stepping back would be more personal than musical.
metaphoric of my appreciation of his contribution to the musical canon - intense, involved, and significant. Your assumption is based according to taste, some think his work in the Seahorses is brilliant and a coninuation of his 'work'. So, Band vs. Squire and co.? Obviously, a band is a sum of it's parts, a "given". Squire's was an innovator. Ian and co. are like "glass-ceilings". He conintues to play and create, what are the others doing ?? Exactly.
Hi Just to inform you - John Squire is more an artist now - hardly ever plays music live. Mani has been the bass player in Primal Scream for the last 10 years - longer than he was even a stone rose. And as for Ian Brown, well i think you will find he is had 4 solo albums, a greatest hits (solo stuff) and continues to tour all the time at big venues and headlling slots at major festivals. In terms or reni, will he has a band but but keeps himself to himself.
He relishes in stepping into anything he can't understand. The brainwaves of Squires are like those of deep water fish -- a species so mysterious yet brilliantly designed that scientists have abondaned all hope of understanding them, except as an unexplainable "futuristic mutation ".
For me, the SRoses are defined by Squire's guitar, everything else is secondary. My theory is, is that the other members including the label perhaps, desired more of a cohesive partnership amongst them.
I haven't heard of Garage Flower, although I'd agree that there was more to the SRoses. Your palate of knowing Squire's previous work helps in your understanding of him. I prefer the re-mixes of TSR personally. This re-interpretation by techno-philes represents to me the reverence and universality of TSR music. And yes.. Reni's drumming, the bassist, and even Ian's vocals were all top-shelf and as we continue to speculate, behold! They're still alive, so you never know.
The SRoses is so basically revered that a wreckless, egotistical maniac like Squires is a world-reknowned guitar God. Jimi Hendrix would have shuddered at the likes of Squires, and Squires, given a shot across the time-span, would have loved to try to up-stage a flamboyant innovator like Hendrix.
The British press is sooo un-relenting; gossip mongers at the highest order. There've been many who have fallen from grace under it's scrutiny, so I'm not surprised. Squire's ruining the band isn't something I'd even derive of, in fact, the opposite; Ian's inability to share the spot-light with Squire was reason for friction.
Sounds like a classic case of 'band-itis', unfortunately. I'd assumed that there was someting juicier, in addition to the seeming formulaic disintegration of yet, another drug-fueled band. Intriguing pt. however, when you state "mammoth protraction" by STone, and the press choosing to snub them, to me, politics-wise, is most contentious, and probably where some real answers lie.
It's mad how the recording of Elizabeth my dear in this video is the final take
If they ever make a cartoon series based on these four I would so watch it.
The S and G song is called "Scarborough Fair."
Really amazing to see the sheer fun innocence of this session. You want to just say to these guys "Do you all realize you're working on one of the greatest records of all time? Do you!?!?!" Wow.
Best 5 minutes ever
At the end Ian says "Whtas it sound like" well Ian, it sounded "Spot on lad"
Best moment of my life was when I caught one of Reni's drumsticks at V in Stafford this year!
Stone Roses changed my life for ever
Thank you so much for putting this up! God they were stunners and John Leckie did a brilliant job of it.
In interviews I've read, John Leckie has said that he used a humble SM58 for Ian Brown's vocals - but he's using a Neumann M49 here.
Mani is a LEGEND.
Thanks for the update on the members. I had no idea that they were all doing so well! Well, we all go through phases in life, quoting from the venerable Bowie, "turn and face the strain..ch,ch changes" - and I do emphaisize 'strain', perhpas well noted or not, seems like good things do indeed come to an end regardless. I'd like to check out Squires art-work one of these days!
Proof that Ian can hit the notes man.If he stays off the snow that is!!
This is rare, it's not from the DVD, there's some scenes here that aren't on it.
you can get it on "the stone roses the DVD"
it also has like a 2hr long interview with brown and squire where they answer bollocks all.
GFlowers sounds scrumptious - thanks for the referral. In old age, they eventually will, it's inevitable; human nature's way of avoiding recourse in the after-life.
thank you so much for uploading this!! this is so precious! scarborough fair--john squire!!!
Squires is a final, romantic symbol of everything that went right with the Manchester scene -- he is our melodic crusader, a hero to millions. Squires is the ultimate and perhaps final "British guitarist" (of our generation).
5 years in the making honed to perfection !!
That was F@CKING AWESOME! Never seen that before.
Nice one!
love this band
Ian sounds so fkn good, its mad he would sing a bit off live now and again
Quite funny watching them all muck about, imagine the task of being their manager. They look totall oblivious as to making the best album of all time, IMO.
like what? Btw, thanks, I checked your favorites and favorited that old clip of 'I wanna be adored', great clip!
wow that was cool to watch.
yay for that album
Reni......Come Back!!!!!!!!!!!!
@guinnesstrail - you're right...first coming, and their one great CD blows Oasis out of the water. No Stone Roses=No Oasis.
I have written best batch of songs since this... Soon it will be time
All pray at the Temple of Reni.
glad mani didn't wear his baseball hat too often
Hence, Squire's Seahorses, allowed him this space to 'stretch' and shine with relative anonymity within this band. Court proceedings might've been about the 'tying of the knot' on this conclusion, terminating contractual obligations. Second Coming is GREAT, the momentum was not lost - it was their Abbey Road, their farewell to each other seemingly. (did they make more full length albums after this?)
quality, hard to believe that they were so unaware of the importance of that precious album...
Any proper stone roses fan would know this is from the stone roses the DVD.
Squire's symbolism, outweighed his mundanity as an artist, thus his role in the SRoses for me, was weighed heavier than the others which gave him license to be indulgent and experimental. The SHorses is him having fun, harken to posturing of 70's riffage (or, it could be of him losing it too). Ian's vocals is in it's nature demure and catalystic to the band's sound, so any stepping back would be more personal than musical.
metaphoric of my appreciation of his contribution to the musical canon - intense, involved, and significant. Your assumption is based according to taste, some think his work in the Seahorses is brilliant and a coninuation of his 'work'. So, Band vs. Squire and co.? Obviously, a band is a sum of it's parts, a "given". Squire's was an innovator. Ian and co. are like "glass-ceilings". He conintues to play and create, what are the others doing ?? Exactly.
Hi
Just to inform you - John Squire is more an artist now - hardly ever plays music live. Mani has been the bass player in Primal Scream for the last 10 years - longer than he was even a stone rose. And as for Ian Brown, well i think you will find he is had 4 solo albums, a greatest hits (solo stuff) and continues to tour all the time at big venues and headlling slots at major festivals. In terms or reni, will he has a band but but keeps himself to himself.
He relishes in stepping into anything he can't understand. The brainwaves of Squires are like those of deep water fish -- a species so mysterious yet brilliantly designed that scientists have abondaned all hope of understanding them, except as an unexplainable "futuristic mutation ".
isn't reni wearing the white tshirt and white hat tho?
cool video. just out of interest what studio is this?
For me, the SRoses are defined by Squire's guitar, everything else is secondary. My theory is, is that the other members including the label perhaps, desired more of a cohesive partnership amongst them.
I haven't heard of Garage Flower, although I'd agree that there was more to the SRoses. Your palate of knowing Squire's previous work helps in your understanding of him.
I prefer the re-mixes of TSR personally. This re-interpretation by techno-philes represents to me the reverence and universality of TSR music. And yes.. Reni's drumming, the bassist, and even Ian's vocals were all top-shelf and as we continue to speculate, behold! They're still alive, so you never know.
I was 8 when u wrote this comment
This is Good Music
I like the version of Shoot You Down at 2:56
oh yeah. i remember now. this was the one compared to scarborough fair.
@88johnbarnes Frustrating thing was I didn't discover them till 93. Made sure I learned guitar off Squire though : )
this is rare.
Reni doesn't make a fuckin' move.
my name is capone, al capone ad im back
The SRoses is so basically revered that a wreckless, egotistical maniac like Squires is a world-reknowned guitar God. Jimi Hendrix would have shuddered at the likes of Squires, and Squires, given a shot across the time-span, would have loved to try to up-stage a flamboyant innovator like Hendrix.
If so, not more than one or two which were probably done 'after the fact' in these respects.
And as far as "juicier" is concerned, ask Oasis, "ouch!"
to answer the questions: i'm just a fan. got it from a fellow fan. that's all, sorry :)
what? They get along, in fact they seem pretty chum ,chum if you ask me. So, what happend? Why aren't they still together?
I'll second that!! "holy shit! who are you?....where did you get this video? "
SNAIL TRAIL!!!!!!!!!!! 3:24
Squire is God
For about 10 minutes I truly thought they were the 2nd coming of the Beatles...not the first coming of Oasis.
Where'd you get this? Amazing.
is that martin hannett in the orange shirt?
what song is at 4.10?? it's beautiful! please somebody tell me haha
@MrHankscorpio100 it's elizabeth my dear
The roses could have been bigger than the beatles.....should have
@MrHankscorpio100 elizabeth my dear
2:14 lol
gosh,dont they look young!
S Club 7: The Greatest Hits. Why would it be called anthing else?
when was this???
how is this rare? it's on the fucking dvd.
who were these guys? Green Day?
what the band?
The British press is sooo un-relenting; gossip mongers at the highest order. There've been many who have fallen from grace under it's scrutiny, so I'm not surprised. Squire's ruining the band isn't something I'd even derive of, in fact, the opposite; Ian's inability to share the spot-light with Squire was reason for friction.
0:53 Sigh........
I know! Sex on legs!
Sounds like a classic case of 'band-itis', unfortunately. I'd assumed that there was someting juicier, in addition to the seeming formulaic disintegration of yet, another drug-fueled band. Intriguing pt. however, when you state "mammoth protraction" by STone, and the press choosing to snub them, to me, politics-wise, is most contentious, and probably where some real answers lie.