Great review as always. Even if I don’t understand English it was very obvious which one you enjoyed more with your infectious laughters whilst riding the M1000R 😝😝
Hi Scott. You need to ride the 2022 MT-10 it got an update in that year onwards. Some changes to engine internals, ECU, exhaust, appearance, gearing/sprockets, geometry etc. Deffs worth a NTP review.
DTC has minus values also. This is an amazing bike! Everyone who has ridden it was reluctant to go back to their own bike afterwards. It's also very gorgeous irl, have had serval people approach me wanting to get a closer and better look at it.
Not long purchased a 2022 s1000r m package but already looking at that one with envy ! Fantastic machine. And your roads, man , like a billiard table! So jealous compared with my pot holed luner scape surfaces here in Ireland.
BTW, it's so good that I'm seriously considering buying one. It is the best super naked out there, period. But one problem with that is that I don't do track days any more and so it's hard for me to justify getting one and only using it for the street. But I said to my wife that it's so easy to ride that she can even ride it. She smiled and knew exactly what I was trying to do...sigh...she "ain't no dummy".
Glad you enjoyed riding both and I love my BMW M2 competition, but I ride my 2023 V4S daily to my job in Sydney CBD and love every moment. Wet, hot, no matter what the conditions, it's AWESOME!!!
Very good review!!! I bought M1000R 2024 almost the same you drive with M Competition but i dont added 2100$ more for akrapovic… I think i will put SC Project on… That stock akrapovic seems too silence imo :( I can’t wait on summer! My first BMW ever, my first naked bike and my first 1000ccm too… I riding 5 years on super sport Yamaha R6… I am so happy and proud to not change my mind and order that beauty ❤ Like i said, i cant wait on summer (still 0km).
So based on some of the bikes you have been able to ride I have a question or two. Great vids btw!! So I currently have a 2022 Super Duke Evo and it is as good as I could ever want. I also own a few Ducati's, Hyper 950SP, Desert X and Pikes Peak. I have been looking for a fully faired bike but I have no interest in a Panigale or the M1000. I already have the naked bike thing handled and BTW, I agree with you on the SFV4....great bike but useless on the street, BMW may be a little better but I will stick with my SD. That being said, my Hyper and DX I love, and that is one of the best engines I have ridden so I am looking at the Super Sport 950S. In all honesty, how would you compare that Super Sport to these two for a street machine? The Hyper is the most fun of any bike on the street but I want something more stable at high speeds.
Owned my MR competition for 2 months now having traded in my SR there is no comparison between the Two even they share the same platform. The M is a very special bike and like you every moment I spend on it I’m amazed. In my opinion al the other manufacturers have got a lot to do to even get close to this BMW.
Nice Review, as always. I own the ducati but i got one eye on the M. Do you know how far the tank is good for? The Ducati is flashing after 150km the lights for gas. Thx and keep going. Die Linke zum Gruß & pls excuse the not so perfect english 😊
Well, the BMW is supposed to go 40km further than the Ducati. Same take size but the BMW is 6.4 L/100 and the Ducati is 7.6 L/100. So on average you should go further on a tank before the reserve light goes on. take care, Scott
Great Video as always. -- Just curious, between the 1000R /Streetfighter/SuperDuke which has the most sporty riding position ? Which is the most upright? I am looking forward to your BMW M 1000 XR review when it comes out next year. Thats the one that is peaking my interest.
This bike looks interesting as a sporty street bike. As a tall rider I have a big Adventure bike for the comfortable ergonomics. Is the M 1000 R a comfortable bike for a tall rider on the street, or is it mostly designed for the track? It's impossible to get a test ride on a bike like this where I live, so it's hard to know if I would like it without buying one.
Well, it's all relative, I personally know guys that are a lot taller 190cm+ (6'2"+) than me and ride the S1000R all day long and on weekend trips and they don't complain at all. I'm 178cm (5'10") and I don't have a problem with it but I can understand that if I was taller it would bother me after a while. The M riding position is a little more forward than the normal S, so you might want to sit on an M if you can. Especially if a dealer has both bikes sitting there, then you can get a direct comparison. good luck, Scott
@@NothingToProve Thanks for the insight. I'm 6'3" so it sounds like the leg room wouldn't work for me. I'll probably set my sights on the KTM 1390 SAS, which is rumored for 2025 release. Hope they bring that to the U.S.
You know In all honesty, I think the SFV4SP would have been the like for like comparison but I am sure they are like finding Bigfoot. I wish I could get excited about any BMW....just no soul. Ducati and KTM have it in spades.....the M is very cool but I have bought and sold too many BMW's in hopes that the soul would be massaged in....so far....nope! Both the Duc and the M are amazing but equate to nonsense on the street based on my experience. Yes the BMW is more tame but if I bought either it would be track only. I wish people bought on quality, refinement and synergy vs just horse power. A Hyper Motard 950SP for pure fun, I do not think can be matched at only 110hp, which is also why I asked you about the Super Sport.....great vids!
Hi brother, I don’t know how the pricing in your country is but in India the standard street fighter v4 standard model cost 24,65,000 INR(1 gbp= 101 INR approx) and the m1000r cost 33,00,000 INR. Which one should I go for. I only do city rides and weekend rides. I am thinking of upgrading from my street triple rs. What will you suggest me to go for. ?
No, I don't do that all the time, in fact rarely, I guess I was just trying to feel the distance between the gears. Usually, I can do clutch less up shifts smoother than a QS does it, and on bikes with no QS, I almost always do it. I know it sounds arrogant/cocky but on some bikes I can do it better, this one, no, the QS is sooooo good. On cassette style transmissions it's fairly easy for me to do since I've been doing track days on sport bikes before QS were available. Well, motoGP guys were doing clutch less shifting before QS existed and that is actually from where I learned it back in the 90's. take care, Scott
Funny enough. I rode these back to back as I'm looking to replace my Streetfighter v2. And what's funny is how opinions differ. The M1000r was less comfortable, and just plain felt, boring. I told.ypu really get into the revs. Maybe that's what you mean by easy to.ride but I just found it absolutely unexciting 95% of the time. The v4 engine felt.far more exciting and engaging to ride everywhere. Just more aggressive And found that more fun. But at the end of the day, I think I'm keeping my V2
Love the m1000r. With a brentune. Air filter and full akrasystem you get rid of all the euro emission nonsense and cats . Its a beast. I've had both agree with you
Hoping someday soon the S1000R will be offered with the Shift-Cam…I don’t need the carbon wheels, etc. of the M that all jack the price so high, but as an owner of a R1250R w/ Shift-Cam I at least need the mid-range it’d give the 4-cyl. S if I’m giving up the twin’s massive torque.
You can get the white model that doesn’t come with the carbon package which takes off like 6k, but the black model looks so good in person. Mine gets looks everywhere I go on mine
I was told, by my BMW sales guy, that you can order the S1000R with just the shiftcam motor as an option for about 2k more, I'm not sure how they'd do it but he said that there is a way to do it. So go see your dealer and see if they know how to do this. take care, Scott
@@NothingToProve Interesting, thank you…I’ve never heard of such an option. I suspect, though, that the possibility is significantly diminished in the States - the only models for sale we get around here are pre-ordered loaded to the hilt…the ala carte factory ordering I read about, of being able to order specific options, doesn’t really seem to be a Thing here.
I had a S1000R and XR. Great real world review, thanks. God, it is ugly…😊. Wonder if smaller higher bars (from a r1250r for example) would fit….the ergos are awful…apart from that…what a weapon.
@@NothingToProve I've hit a bit of a brick wall in the last few weeks - can't decide between a BMW S1000R, MT10, Ducati SS 950 or the Tuono. All road - no track. Some touring - but mostly in and out of small to large towns across Australia.
Of all the brands out there bmw is the only one that has the money, experience, to be able to even compete with Ducati . What bmw has that Ducati doesn’t is they are way more advanced when it comes to technology. Ducati is pure engineering beauty, but so is bmw, but the tech on that bmw in conjunction with that proven and durable confidence inspiring motor…. Well worth every penny, the risk of prison for the bank robbery that I would have to perform,in order to afford this bike well worth it
@petertousignant6566 True...but the German stuff is so mundane now, so common place...no individuality....hence I've just bought a Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello S....perfection!
LOL! You made me laugh out laud. I ride all bikes that I can, I put my nose up at none. The NTP is just how to ride, not what. The same is with a car too. take care, Scott
@@NothingToProve , I know 😉. Ride a 1200rt myself. Still like to watch the tested bikes, or ADV bikes,..take care and enjoy your dream job testriding for youtube.
that gear shifting from 1 to 6 with 50 had me smiling ... and i believe thats one of the reason why i am getting this bike
I think your reaction to that last pass and acceleration through the gears said it all 😆😆😆👍!
What an absolutely gorgeous unit. The paint and carbon looks amazing together.
Hi, Scott, good to see you got the chance to ride the new M I got my M comp pack with 10k already and absolutely love the bike. Cheers Jiri
Hi, it's great to hear from actual owners, so please feel free to post comments on your personal experience here, I will read them!
take care,
Scott
Great review! Looking forward to the M 1000 XR review
Great review as always. Even if I don’t understand English it was very obvious which one you enjoyed more with your infectious laughters whilst riding the M1000R 😝😝
Hi Scott. You need to ride the 2022 MT-10 it got an update in that year onwards. Some changes to engine internals, ECU, exhaust, appearance, gearing/sprockets, geometry etc. Deffs worth a NTP review.
that much better than the 19. SP or stock you know what I mean.
DTC has minus values also. This is an amazing bike! Everyone who has ridden it was reluctant to go back to their own bike afterwards. It's also very gorgeous irl, have had serval people approach me wanting to get a closer and better look at it.
Not long purchased a 2022 s1000r m package but already looking at that one with envy ! Fantastic machine. And your roads, man , like a billiard table! So jealous compared with my pot holed luner scape surfaces here in Ireland.
German roads for you that, not like the s**t we're made to put up with here in the UK and Ireland whilst being taxed to the eyeballs!!
Great review, your joy for this bike was very evident! I own a 22 s1000 race here in Australia. It’s a complete weapon! Loving it
Yea, if I won the lottery, this would be at the top of my list.
Streetfighter more raw and brutal✊🔥🔥
Nothing to prove. Comes up with the BMW1000R beast! Love your content Scott 🙂
BTW, it's so good that I'm seriously considering buying one. It is the best super naked out there, period. But one problem with that is that I don't do track days any more and so it's hard for me to justify getting one and only using it for the street. But I said to my wife that it's so easy to ride that she can even ride it. She smiled and knew exactly what I was trying to do...sigh...she "ain't no dummy".
Glad you enjoyed riding both and I love my BMW M2 competition, but I ride my 2023 V4S daily to my job in Sydney CBD and love every moment. Wet, hot, no matter what the conditions, it's AWESOME!!!
I always enjoy your real world reviews. Thanks!
awesome, kind of happy I am not millionaire because would buy this one over Ducati like NOW!!!! Great work as always, cheers V!
Very good review!!! I bought M1000R 2024 almost the same you drive with M Competition but i dont added 2100$ more for akrapovic… I think i will put SC Project on… That stock akrapovic seems too silence imo :( I can’t wait on summer! My first BMW ever, my first naked bike and my first 1000ccm too… I riding 5 years on super sport Yamaha R6… I am so happy and proud to not change my mind and order that beauty ❤ Like i said, i cant wait on summer (still 0km).
Fantastic Scott! I’d also go the BM. The Ducati has the style, but the BM looks tough👌
So based on some of the bikes you have been able to ride I have a question or two. Great vids btw!! So I currently have a 2022 Super Duke Evo and it is as good as I could ever want. I also own a few Ducati's, Hyper 950SP, Desert X and Pikes Peak. I have been looking for a fully faired bike but I have no interest in a Panigale or the M1000. I already have the naked bike thing handled and BTW, I agree with you on the SFV4....great bike but useless on the street, BMW may be a little better but I will stick with my SD. That being said, my Hyper and DX I love, and that is one of the best engines I have ridden so I am looking at the Super Sport 950S. In all honesty, how would you compare that Super Sport to these two for a street machine? The Hyper is the most fun of any bike on the street but I want something more stable at high speeds.
Thanks for excellent review! Hopefully picking one of these up soon!
Owned my MR competition for 2 months now having traded in my SR there is no comparison between the Two even they share the same platform. The M is a very special bike and like you every moment I spend on it I’m amazed.
In my opinion al the other manufacturers have got a lot to do to even get close to this BMW.
Nice Review, as always. I own the ducati but i got one eye on the M. Do you know how far the tank is good for? The Ducati is flashing after 150km the lights for gas. Thx and keep going. Die Linke zum Gruß & pls excuse the not so perfect english 😊
Well, the BMW is supposed to go 40km further than the Ducati. Same take size but the BMW is 6.4 L/100 and the Ducati is 7.6 L/100. So on average you should go further on a tank before the reserve light goes on.
take care,
Scott
Looks like BMW have a winner here.Thks.
Great Video as always. -- Just curious, between the 1000R /Streetfighter/SuperDuke which has the most sporty riding position ? Which is the most upright?
I am looking forward to your BMW M 1000 XR review when it comes out next year. Thats the one that is peaking my interest.
Most up-right - SDR, most sporty - Streetfighter. The sweet spot, M1000R...IMHO.
From where did you get the 201kg weight for the Super Duke?
For me Ducati for sure, the bmw is no joke but for a total package ducati is just on another level in term of looks sound and handling.
First,amazing bike. Second,what's the brand of your riding jeans?
Those are Trilobite Parado jeans 👍
This bike looks interesting as a sporty street bike. As a tall rider I have a big Adventure bike for the comfortable ergonomics. Is the M 1000 R a comfortable bike for a tall rider on the street, or is it mostly designed for the track? It's impossible to get a test ride on a bike like this where I live, so it's hard to know if I would like it without buying one.
Well, it's all relative, I personally know guys that are a lot taller 190cm+ (6'2"+) than me and ride the S1000R all day long and on weekend trips and they don't complain at all. I'm 178cm (5'10") and I don't have a problem with it but I can understand that if I was taller it would bother me after a while. The M riding position is a little more forward than the normal S, so you might want to sit on an M if you can. Especially if a dealer has both bikes sitting there, then you can get a direct comparison.
good luck,
Scott
@@NothingToProve Thanks for the insight. I'm 6'3" so it sounds like the leg room wouldn't work for me. I'll probably set my sights on the KTM 1390 SAS, which is rumored for 2025 release. Hope they bring that to the U.S.
I'd wait till the XR1000 M arrives. Sounds like it is for you. I'm waiting as well--while a ride very good Ducati Pikes Peak.@@JMeyer-qj1pv
fantastic review/comparison.
You know In all honesty, I think the SFV4SP would have been the like for like comparison but I am sure they are like finding Bigfoot. I wish I could get excited about any BMW....just no soul. Ducati and KTM have it in spades.....the M is very cool but I have bought and sold too many BMW's in hopes that the soul would be massaged in....so far....nope! Both the Duc and the M are amazing but equate to nonsense on the street based on my experience. Yes the BMW is more tame but if I bought either it would be track only. I wish people bought on quality, refinement and synergy vs just horse power. A Hyper Motard 950SP for pure fun, I do not think can be matched at only 110hp, which is also why I asked you about the Super Sport.....great vids!
Nice comparison. And well what you have here is 95% the S1000RR “M” from 2019 or a bit later just naked, nothing more. Now made easier on the sitting.
Great review, best bike on the market
I would happen to agree with you! I really enjoyed riding this bike, sooooo much fun!
If I had an extra $28k laying around…..🤩
Wow, just wow!
Hi brother, I don’t know how the pricing in your country is but in India the standard street fighter v4 standard model cost 24,65,000 INR(1 gbp= 101 INR approx) and the m1000r cost 33,00,000 INR. Which one should I go for. I only do city rides and weekend rides. I am thinking of upgrading from my street triple rs. What will you suggest me to go for. ?
I'm just not a fan of the V4, so I'm probably not the right person to ask. But "save a buck and get the Duck" 👍🤣😁
Both great bikes but got to say those Torque numbers on the KTM are insane. torque wins races they say
BMW every time. 👍
I saw that when you're up shifting you throttle back a little. Why is that? It has quickshift already. Im just wondering. 😮😮
No, I don't do that all the time, in fact rarely, I guess I was just trying to feel the distance between the gears. Usually, I can do clutch less up shifts smoother than a QS does it, and on bikes with no QS, I almost always do it. I know it sounds arrogant/cocky but on some bikes I can do it better, this one, no, the QS is sooooo good. On cassette style transmissions it's fairly easy for me to do since I've been doing track days on sport bikes before QS were available. Well, motoGP guys were doing clutch less shifting before QS existed and that is actually from where I learned it back in the 90's.
take care,
Scott
Funny enough. I rode these back to back as I'm looking to replace my Streetfighter v2. And what's funny is how opinions differ. The M1000r was less comfortable, and just plain felt, boring. I told.ypu really get into the revs. Maybe that's what you mean by easy to.ride but I just found it absolutely unexciting 95% of the time. The v4 engine felt.far more exciting and engaging to ride everywhere. Just more aggressive And found that more fun. But at the end of the day, I think I'm keeping my V2
Would like to see if the titanium headers and cats after a few miles. Probably look better.
Love the m1000r. With a brentune. Air filter and full akrasystem you get rid of all the euro emission nonsense and cats . Its a beast. I've had both agree with you
The base s1000r is so good.
That’s what I’m thinking
Hoping someday soon the S1000R will be offered with the Shift-Cam…I don’t need the carbon wheels, etc. of the M that all jack the price so high, but as an owner of a R1250R w/ Shift-Cam I at least need the mid-range it’d give the 4-cyl. S if I’m giving up the twin’s massive torque.
You can get the white model that doesn’t come with the carbon package which takes off like 6k, but the black model looks so good in person. Mine gets looks everywhere I go on mine
I was told, by my BMW sales guy, that you can order the S1000R with just the shiftcam motor as an option for about 2k more, I'm not sure how they'd do it but he said that there is a way to do it. So go see your dealer and see if they know how to do this.
take care,
Scott
@@NothingToProve Interesting, thank you…I’ve never heard of such an option. I suspect, though, that the possibility is significantly diminished in the States - the only models for sale we get around here are pre-ordered loaded to the hilt…the ala carte factory ordering I read about, of being able to order specific options, doesn’t really seem to be a Thing here.
Lottery money bikes
I had a S1000R and XR. Great real world review, thanks. God, it is ugly…😊. Wonder if smaller higher bars (from a r1250r for example) would fit….the ergos are awful…apart from that…what a weapon.
the r or the xr which did you prefer ?
@@kevincraig8257 the XR.
so you prefer this over the Tuono
For a track day weapon, yes, but for road, I think I'd still take the Tuono 😁👍
@@NothingToProve I've hit a bit of a brick wall in the last few weeks - can't decide between a BMW S1000R, MT10, Ducati SS 950 or the Tuono. All road - no track. Some touring - but mostly in and out of small to large towns across Australia.
In New Zealand i just looked up the price ......its $51,990............fml.
For an m1000rr its $70,000
i dont see why anyone would buy this bike as a trackday weapon over a real 1000cc supersport bike
this is fake?
Couldn't live with the asymmetric paint.
Ducati every time....soul and character wins over Teutonic blandness everytime!
Of all the brands out there bmw is the only one that has the money, experience, to be able to even compete with Ducati . What bmw has that Ducati doesn’t is they are way more advanced when it comes to technology. Ducati is pure engineering beauty, but so is bmw, but the tech on that bmw in conjunction with that proven and durable confidence inspiring motor…. Well worth every penny, the risk of prison for the bank robbery that I would have to perform,in order to afford this bike well worth it
@petertousignant6566 True...but the German stuff is so mundane now, so common place...no individuality....hence I've just bought a Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello S....perfection!
Very cool. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
*promo sm* ❣️
Ugly bike😩I rathe have Streetfighter or R 9T✊🔥
Nothing to prove?…kind of not the bikes for your philosophy. Thanks for the real world review anyway.
LOL! You made me laugh out laud. I ride all bikes that I can, I put my nose up at none. The NTP is just how to ride, not what. The same is with a car too.
take care,
Scott
@@NothingToProve , I know 😉. Ride a 1200rt myself. Still like to watch the tested bikes, or ADV bikes,..take care and enjoy your dream job testriding for youtube.