I was shocked you didn’t talk more about the “free association” fish. If anyone doesn’t know, free association is part of Sigmund Freud’s psychoanalysis in which the patient says whatever comes to mind, no matter how embarrassing or irrelevant. The free association is then interpreted by the therapist and is supposed to give them a glance into the patient’s unconscious mind. Maybe the music of side order could be the Memverse’s interpretation of the unconscious minds of those trapped inside?
24:49 This is pure speculation but I believe that the jellyfish in Side Order could be based off of the immortal jellyfish, who live up to their name by being well…immortal. They achieve this immortality by (in layman’s terms) reverting back into a larvae state instead of dying. I think that idea represents the gameplay loop of Side Order- going up to floor 30 and then starting over again in an ostensibly endless cycle. On another note, I’m not quite sure how to necessarily put this but I just want to say how happy I am to be able to help out with this sort of translation stuff! I wish I had something more insightful to add to the discussion from an interview POV but I do not, lmao.
I think that the "octotroopers who do not metamorphose into a humanoid form" might refer to individuals like the Octo Samurai from S2, he clearly has a humanoid form BUT it's not truly an Octoling. Octotroopers are said to not be as intelligent as an average Octoling so I guess individuals like the Octo Samurai are the limit of their intelligence, besides, there are octoling societies in the Splatoon world that weren't influenced by the octarian army, like the Splatlands region in which Octolings have lived for many years along Inklings and there aren't records of the existence of "octotrooper-like" beings. I think DJ Octavio is somehow behind their creation, who knows.
I like this interpretation. Some octotroopers can become more human like, but none can never switch completely between humanoid and octoling form. Makes sense to me!
@octokraken6359 there's hints at some octolings in general Mashup of Diss-pair apparently was born from two famous actors with an upbringing allowing him to hear music from across the globe Given he's seemingly an adult, he'd have been born long before Octolings started leaving the domes between 1 and 2 So at the bare minimum there were *some* completely unrelated Octolings on the surface
Funfact the Parallel canon's stage has "runners" in the background, these are injected plastic trays essentially that you snip plastic pieces off of to make lil toys n figures with the most widely known example being Gundam's Gundam Plamo (Or gunpla for short) figures.
18:50 The best little details they manage to sneak in like this will never stop surprising me - the stage of the boss fight is based on the “Panopticon” and the boss theme is titled “0ct-0ptic0n.” Also, side tangent: on the mentions of Agent 4 being rumored to be the strongest Inkling, I just had a thought that I am glad did not come to fruition. If this is what Parallel Canon is like based on Agent 4, imagine what they would have been like if Order got their hands on Agent 3…
Well, their demographic is teens. In-house they might not be thinking of the older people playing the game. Like think about the World Championships. I think they are very valid, because not everyone is X rank material. Most players were around A rank in Splatoon 2. The game is supposed to be fun, not Dark Souls hard.
@@lorettabes4553okay but as far as rougelikes go, side order was pretty easy. besides basically the last 10 floors of every run, its not super tough, but usually they're good with adding bonus stuff to keep the people looking for more difficulty occupied like me. side order.. didn't really do that. the risky rewardz stuff and the 8 palette don't cut it. and with the bosses and stages being limited, the replay value is basically gone after having cleared all palettes. truly I wish there was more, but the devs probably are super new to all of this and find it hard to get a balance.
I felt the rant about the Octarians so hard Also the thing about them not choosing where they go to school and what they specialise in is a headcanon I had ages ago but scrapped. Guess I'm bringing it back lmao
These interviews are always so interesting, i love hearing the thoughts of the developers!! I hope we get a side order art book, I would love to know more info,,,,
32:49 I personally think this means that Twintacle Octotroopers specifically are not cut off from Octoling soldiers, but instead fit into that cloning idea you mentioned. Basically that most Octoling soldiers are created artificially for the purpose of protecting citizens like the playable Octolings, and they start out looking like the Octotroopers they create
The idea that Order is burning memorys is haunting. But there is more than one way to burn a memory. Burning them by removing them whitch is the context here. Burning memory onto disks and "This image is burned into my brain" like branding and, while I doubt it's related, it reminded me of the song that became known with the backrooms: "Just a burning memory" that had themes of dementia. The dual meaning of burn is really sending me throught a loop here tho that could easily be me not knowing Japannesse context very well. They might not have the idea of "Branding" memorys like a scar. Double since the idea prob came from slaves that got branded in that way or the criminals in britan getting branded for their crimes something I don't think Japan ever had. Language is hard and translating is harder so I imagine this is a more literal translation and is more closer to book burning then our idea if burning memorys. Fun qurirk of english I guess. That being said Marina was trying to make this place to help with memory so is "burning" memorys back into sanitised octolings. Tho if these are getting factory burned I wonder if Marina and other octolings are losing memorys from this, From what I remember Splatoon 4 is going to be a soft reboot not having the squid sisters in it at all. So these question likly wont have an answer unless there is a sea scroll about it or something. TL DR: Order/Marina is burning memorys like CD's or giving people dementia. Wack.
As someone who is a little obsessed with the goofy idea of a pants jelly or a shrimp or even one of the Parallel Canon gaining sentience, I love how Cipher's origin and their description of Parallel Canon means my little idea isn't completely at odds with canon.
This is really well translated and put together! Thank you guys for your hard work :] I did some research into this too when the article came out, and fount out that (17:49) pudding mixed with soy sauce is said to taste like sea urchin in Japan, similar to how sliced avocado with soy sauce can taste like raw tuna! The pudding motif seemed really random until I found out about that rumor :O
33:59 “My point here is that I can see the value in some things being open to interpretation. Like you don’t have to agree with me, you could validly come to the conclusion that cut tentacles become Octolings” Not exactly related to the larger point of Octarians being separate things or younger Octolings, but that “Open to Interpretation” tangent basically sums up my thoughts on Pearl and Marina’s relationship(Not tryna start a shipping war or anything, Sorry if it sounds like that /gen) I’ve always seen it as basically just leaving hints for both a ship ending and a Non ship ending, and just lets you roll with whatever punches you want. For example, Marina’s wish of wanting to stay with Pearl in the section of Inkopolis Square being played when completing the disk. You could either call it romantic, or go with the interview’s wording and say it’s nostalgia(Or for an in game example, the storybook princess line. You can take that on its own and call it shipping fuel if you want, but there’s also lines detailing the reasons why these roles exist aside from that comparison, so it’s whatever makes you happy. Yeah I know of the Base website, or thinking Acht was hitting on Pearl, but respectfully I still stand by this mindset(No idea what to make of Marina’s “Dear Senpai” from the manga, since On one hand, it is from SRL. And on the other hand…It’s the manga. Shadow Inklings aren’t canon for example)). The choice is up to you Once again, I am sorry if this accidentally sounds like bashing opinions( /gen, again), ship what you wanna ship as long as you’re not a jerk about it. I can’t ship it myself due to uncomfy memories of the people who Are jerks about it, but you don’t necessarily have to Agree with me. This long winded rambling is just My two cents on the off topic matter
As someone who does ship Marina & Pearl, I really like this take! I personally feel like Splatoon is a game with a story you can take some parts of it and fit it to your interpretation. Kinda like Minecraft where the developers leave little hints of story but don't outright confirm anything to let the players make their own stories. (If that makes any sense.) I'm aware Splatoon does have a confirmed storyline and all, but I feel like the developers leave out certain details so we (the players) can make own ideas on how the Splatoon world works. Like with the relationships between the characters, the developers sometimes leave hints but never say it outright so the players can interpret how they like. Some relationships as romantic or platonic and they're both valid to do so! (Granted if they're not being jerks about it..) So with Pearl and Marina's relationship, just like you said, can be viewed as being a couple or just really good friends. (Personally, I think the reason their relationship is never clarified is because of potential censorship, but that's just me.) Sorry if this comment is super long or doesn't make any sense. I barely comment, but when I do, they tend to be very lengthy.. I'm also not really good at putting my thoughts into words so I might've misused some words or repeated myself.
@@sophont_sea_anemone I could see that, and ig it would also explain the injury she got on her hand cause of the charge time of the weapon. But we would never know the truth :)
That info on Parallel Canon is interesting to me cause it backs up an idea I had to give 4 a bigger role in my AU’s version of Side Order. Background summary: I’m working off the idea of 4 being left behind in the Canyon. By this time in the plot, the NNSS have realized their mistake and are trying to make up for it, but then Alterna and Side Order happen at about the same time. 4, getting a heads up about the weird things going on in Inkopolis, skips town but doesn’t get out unscathed. Losing both her skills in fighting and a good chunk of her frustrations, to mixed reception. Meanwhile, 8 is climbing the tower, fixing pallets one by one, unaware that something is growing, learning, watching in the background. Until 8 has their own pallet. Once that happens, the figure makes its presence known. It’s a Parallel Canon model with a crop jacket, yellow eyes, and seaweed in its hair. And it holds a grudge. Giving the name Vanish, it airs out a few grievances before challenging the group to a battle and leaving. (Again, in summary) What they find near the top is a version of Girl Power Station, protect the orb for four minutes against three opponents: Vanish, a PC of Cap’n 3 (who looks more like her agent form), and a PC of 8, without Pearl as backup, all while a song in Vanish’s voice drives home how lonely and scared she’s been, and how frustrating it is being left again and again. (That’s all I have so far.)
Maybe the more humanoid form of an octotrooper could be what the Octo Samurai is? Face and proportions of a humanoid because that’s what survives best in the world
hear me out. what if octolings can reproduce both sexually and asexually? sexual reproduction has a similar development to inklings, while asexual reproduction involves the "octarians that metamorphose into octolings" thing. that exists in irl critters, and notably, ocean creatures are some of the most prominent examples! sea anemones, starfish, siphonophores, corals, and even some molluscs are capable of both types of reproduction, with varying levels of preference for one or the other - as seen in an article published by uc santa barbara! the evidence seems to indicate that octarians are the same way.
What I think couldve made more clear is that I believe they can reproduce both ways. sexually= results in octoling with same development as inklings. asexually= the canon tentacle cutting. The point of ambiguity is if that tentacle cutting can somehow develop into an octoling or not, and by extension, if octolings are even made through sexual reproduction in the domes. Real life octopuses and squids reproduce sexually, and the asexual cutting of tentacles is based on how there's a brain-like cluster of neurons in every octopus' limbs, but that developing into its own being is not something that happens irl for octopuses.
34:18 i think that octolings are born by being cut from a tentacle, but whether or not they "metamorphose" is either completely up to a genetic "X factor" that happen to give them the ability, OR some external anime-like factor of having to go through extreme moments of motivation (e.g being motivated by hearing Calimari Inkantation/Ebb and Flow). Essentially, I don't think even in-universe characters really understand what qualities they need to have or reach in order to breach the metamorphic state.
You know, I won't be surprised Agent 4 does become a notably powerful character when (or "if", really) referenced in later games. I mean, we're talking about an agent who mastered a variety of weapons to defeat Octavio and save Callie. As a way to give a little disambiguation to each agent for people intentionally left with little and vague character, that wouls seem to be the most logical course to barely define 4. That said, what does it really matter how powerful any of these guys are? Apparently they are all chumps in turf war (I'm in a rut).
saw the articles in japanese and specifically decided to wait for you to make a video instead of using a translator saw another person covering the article and specifically decided to wait for you to make a video and I'm glad I waited
Here’s a theory on octoling / octotarian birth! perhaps octolings are formed from a cut-off tentacle, but, thanks to their humanoid from, they can reproduce, explaining the young octoling from SashiMori! so his parents perhaps would’ve both come from cut-off tentacles, and he came from them, resulting in an inkling-like growth! :D
WAIT! Yknow how some octolings have green eye whites? What if THOSE octolings come from cut tentacles, and characters like Marina and Agent 8 were birthed by two parents. Lmao idk just a thought.
For the Octolings and Octarians thing, it could be that some Octarians can become Octolings while some can't and it's either totally random or pre-determined by something(maybe octarians can only form other octarians while octolings can only form other octolings, but then that would imply they're two different species... maybe only octarians/descendants of octarians who came into contact with the crystalized memories from alterna can gain an octoling form? I have no idea)
I'm so glad agent 4 got to be a character in side order, even if she's a brainwashed clone. If only we could have gotten a super boss version of her like inner 3.
Arghh- just still wondering why Marina and Acht look different than the rest of the octoling soldiers?! Acht looks like the only octoling with piercings, and Marina’s blue colored hair, both of them having different eye shapes and colors compared to the rest.
more than likely it's just to make them stand out. with hair, from the playable octolings, we obviously know they have a variety of hairstyles/colours etc. if they made acht and marina look exactly the same as the others it could make them hard to pick out.. and acht's piercings probably play into them being a 'rebel'. also i imagine they have side-protagonist aesthetic bonuses lol
The real question - If all Octolings we see in combat school are female, how can male octolings exist? Are they just not in the military or in separate classes/schools? Heck, all Octolings we see in-game that are not player characters are guys. Octavio is essentially the only male Octoling in the entire game, not including player characters.
@@CorviKid999 - In reality, moooost octopus species are female dominant, to the point that they are usually bigger and more aggressive than the males. It's possible that, Octavio aside, male Octolings are seen as inferior military assets. Or maybe Octavio is just weird. Society can be about social norms rather than objective facts, after all.
I would guess that the cut tentacles never become octolings, but the early stages of naturally born octolings are physically similar to the cut tentacle ones, and/or a significant number of octoling babies fail to develop fully and those ones are treated like the cut tentacles.
33:20 Im my head, octotroopers and the like are severed tentacles, octolings are separate, perhaps the main species However, some octarians CAN eventualy reach a higher level of inteligence and complexity No matter if DJ Octavio is an old enough octarian (unlikely) or a octoling perpetualy in octopuss form (perhaps with age you get locked in whatever form you mostly use like how cuttlefish only turned to a squid cuz of extreme methods) there is still the octo samurai, wich is an ancient octoweapon, made with severed tentacles from octavio from the great turf war, he is just barely humanoid The octosamurai is honestly quite similar to the manga depiction of those humanoid octarians and could be a similar process to that concept art, but it takes insane lengthy time, and pethaps some level of genetic engeniering
I like 4 being the strongest because it gives her something. 3 is the original. 8 is in the best story mode and first playable octoling. And NEO is the new kid. Give 4 the title of strongest agent at the very least.
i dont get why some of these lore related stuff isnt mentioned in game, ik things like why pearl is a drone and other things are mentioned in scrolls, but why dont you see much info on the npcs on the hub?
Textbooks, immersion, and having conversation/drill partners (preferrably native or fluent) are all valid. Also, vocab and reading skills come naturally in time as you immerse yourself, so I highly recommend focusing on particle structure/grammar and ritual language (learning non-literal phrases and language patterns said all the time in society). ^^
I don’t think octoling parents proves octolings reproduce the same way. Hypothetically if pearl and marina had a kid cause marina cut off a tentacle, both girls would be the parents even if only one of the is biologically related to them.
I feel Dumb Playing TF2 Classic game of Steam, but Splatoon I've never touched that game ever since side order My friends don't know why Not even myself know why I stopped.💀
i guess its kinda simple to explain how octolings works and its that they have 2 ways of reproduction, the normal one by eggs that end up in a growth cycle like the inkling one and the one of the troopers that can become octolings by pure strenght of will like its says in haikara or being mass-produced by the army
I’m so mad splatoon 3 is the end of this time line. or story. I would have loved to explore the octarian society. I wanna see what their towns are like how everything is ran. But we probably won’t ever get too see what that’s like
great video, thank you for presenting these in a digestible way and also for taking the time to translate them, thanks to your friends as well obviously
I'm so sad Agent 4 didn't really make an real appearence in the dlc. They deserve some spotlight too! 😪
Technically, they did. The parallel canon intro has the hairstyle of your Splatoon 2 inkling.
idk why people keep complaining about agent 4....yea they're important but with story and lore reasons, why would they????
nuh uh
@@swampygaming2975but that wasn’t the real agent 4
@@YoshiDeNOFFICAL inner agent 3 wasn’t the real agent 3. It was just a creation of agent 8’s mind
I was shocked you didn’t talk more about the “free association” fish. If anyone doesn’t know, free association is part of Sigmund Freud’s psychoanalysis in which the patient says whatever comes to mind, no matter how embarrassing or irrelevant. The free association is then interpreted by the therapist and is supposed to give them a glance into the patient’s unconscious mind.
Maybe the music of side order could be the Memverse’s interpretation of the unconscious minds of those trapped inside?
HOLY NEW RASSICAS VIDEO YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
39:52 oh the interviews are NOT helping them beat the lesbian couple allegations 😭😭
I don't think they're trying too
The OTH part of the new song is just them beating us over the head with their relationship.
The fact that acht thinks of dedf1sh as their gamer tag makes me giggle
Iso Padre going to the surface cuz of stuffed animals is absolutely based I love him so much
24:49 This is pure speculation but I believe that the jellyfish in Side Order could be based off of the immortal jellyfish, who live up to their name by being well…immortal.
They achieve this immortality by (in layman’s terms) reverting back into a larvae state instead of dying. I think that idea represents the gameplay loop of Side Order- going up to floor 30 and then starting over again in an ostensibly endless cycle.
On another note, I’m not quite sure how to necessarily put this but I just want to say how happy I am to be able to help out with this sort of translation stuff! I wish I had something more insightful to add to the discussion from an interview POV but I do not, lmao.
I think that the "octotroopers who do not metamorphose into a humanoid form" might refer to individuals like the Octo Samurai from S2, he clearly has a humanoid form BUT it's not truly an Octoling. Octotroopers are said to not be as intelligent as an average Octoling so I guess individuals like the Octo Samurai are the limit of their intelligence, besides, there are octoling societies in the Splatoon world that weren't influenced by the octarian army, like the Splatlands region in which Octolings have lived for many years along Inklings and there aren't records of the existence of "octotrooper-like" beings. I think DJ Octavio is somehow behind their creation, who knows.
Was it actually full societies or just Shivers clan that existed outside of the domes?
I like this interpretation. Some octotroopers can become more human like, but none can never switch completely between humanoid and octoling form. Makes sense to me!
@octokraken6359 there's hints at some octolings in general
Mashup of Diss-pair apparently was born from two famous actors with an upbringing allowing him to hear music from across the globe
Given he's seemingly an adult, he'd have been born long before Octolings started leaving the domes between 1 and 2
So at the bare minimum there were *some* completely unrelated Octolings on the surface
It's sooooo funny that atch just said alright imma collect my royalties pay up
That one parallel canon really just like: "JUST FIVE MORE MINU- *gets dragged in*"
Thank you, Ardnin, for pronouncing Acht the right way.
Also the reason for the Luna Blaster being in Side Order is just "It looks cool"
but then he pronounced agitando wrong st 16:34
But then using Octobrush just makes sense
I had to balance out me being unable to pronounce the Boss names correctly
Er hat ja Deutsch als muttersprache lol. (Oder andere pronomen ka fa)
Funfact the Parallel canon's stage has "runners" in the background, these are injected plastic trays essentially that you snip plastic pieces off of to make lil toys n figures with the most widely known example being Gundam's Gundam Plamo (Or gunpla for short) figures.
Now I'm hoping someone releases a Jelleton model kit. You could assemble the skeleton, then set it in epoxy resin or gelatin with a mold.
1:20 no one will realize there was a second visitor there teehee
me when im the friendful visitee
18:50 The best little details they manage to sneak in like this will never stop surprising me - the stage of the boss fight is based on the “Panopticon” and the boss theme is titled “0ct-0ptic0n.”
Also, side tangent: on the mentions of Agent 4 being rumored to be the strongest Inkling, I just had a thought that I am glad did not come to fruition. If this is what Parallel Canon is like based on Agent 4, imagine what they would have been like if Order got their hands on Agent 3…
19:32 BRO THAT IS ACTUAL FREAKING NIGHTMARE FUEL
7:06 I’m shocked the devs didn’t expect people to get through Side Order so quickly when there was so little to it…
Game dev when their 3 year made dlc get pass in 40 minute
Well, their demographic is teens. In-house they might not be thinking of the older people playing the game. Like think about the World Championships.
I think they are very valid, because not everyone is X rank material. Most players were around A rank in Splatoon 2.
The game is supposed to be fun, not Dark Souls hard.
@@lorettabes4553 you underestimate how good teens can be good at games
@@lorettabes4553okay but as far as rougelikes go, side order was pretty easy. besides basically the last 10 floors of every run, its not super tough, but usually they're good with adding bonus stuff to keep the people looking for more difficulty occupied like me.
side order.. didn't really do that. the risky rewardz stuff and the 8 palette don't cut it. and with the bosses and stages being limited, the replay value is basically gone after having cleared all palettes.
truly I wish there was more, but the devs probably are super new to all of this and find it hard to get a balance.
Sounds like they didn't expect players to be so skilled
I felt the rant about the Octarians so hard
Also the thing about them not choosing where they go to school and what they specialise in is a headcanon I had ages ago but scrapped. Guess I'm bringing it back lmao
These interviews are always so interesting, i love hearing the thoughts of the developers!!
I hope we get a side order art book, I would love to know more info,,,,
Yeah, I need more of the lore. It's a lore addiction! This info is super important to have!
Also, hi again!
@@EngineerMonkey-zp3yj hello!! Also yes I am obsessed with the lore;,,
I hope it gets released in English as well. The OE artbook never left Japan!
I wish interviews done in english had similar in depth questions but instead they always ask like the basic easy baby questions instead
32:49 I personally think this means that Twintacle Octotroopers specifically are not cut off from Octoling soldiers, but instead fit into that cloning idea you mentioned. Basically that most Octoling soldiers are created artificially for the purpose of protecting citizens like the playable Octolings, and they start out looking like the Octotroopers they create
WOOOOO RREAL INFORMATION ABOUT ACHT YEAAAAHHHHHHH (now i just need them to confirm what the deal with paul is)
The idea that Order is burning memorys is haunting. But there is more than one way to burn a memory.
Burning them by removing them whitch is the context here.
Burning memory onto disks and "This image is burned into my brain" like branding
and, while I doubt it's related, it reminded me of the song that became known with the backrooms: "Just a burning memory" that had themes of dementia.
The dual meaning of burn is really sending me throught a loop here tho that could easily be me not knowing Japannesse context very well. They might not have the idea of "Branding" memorys like a scar. Double since the idea prob came from slaves that got branded in that way or the criminals in britan getting branded for their crimes something I don't think Japan ever had.
Language is hard and translating is harder so I imagine this is a more literal translation and is more closer to book burning then our idea if burning memorys. Fun qurirk of english I guess.
That being said Marina was trying to make this place to help with memory so is "burning" memorys back into sanitised octolings.
Tho if these are getting factory burned I wonder if Marina and other octolings are losing memorys from this, From what I remember Splatoon 4 is going to be a soft reboot not having the squid sisters in it at all. So these question likly wont have an answer unless there is a sea scroll about it or something.
TL DR: Order/Marina is burning memorys like CD's or giving people dementia. Wack.
Ah, so you're heading straight to the source, John Splatoon, I see!
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As someone who is a little obsessed with the goofy idea of a pants jelly or a shrimp or even one of the Parallel Canon gaining sentience, I love how Cipher's origin and their description of Parallel Canon means my little idea isn't completely at odds with canon.
This is really well translated and put together! Thank you guys for your hard work :]
I did some research into this too when the article came out, and fount out that (17:49) pudding mixed with soy sauce is said to taste like sea urchin in Japan, similar to how sliced avocado with soy sauce can taste like raw tuna! The pudding motif seemed really random until I found out about that rumor :O
Hoping that rassicas make a deep dive with their own ideas soon!!
DUDE YOU CANT JUST SHADOWDROP LIKE THIS WHAAAAAT 😭😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏🙏
33:59 “My point here is that I can see the value in some things being open to interpretation. Like you don’t have to agree with me, you could validly come to the conclusion that cut tentacles become Octolings”
Not exactly related to the larger point of Octarians being separate things or younger Octolings, but that “Open to Interpretation” tangent basically sums up my thoughts on Pearl and Marina’s relationship(Not tryna start a shipping war or anything, Sorry if it sounds like that /gen)
I’ve always seen it as basically just leaving hints for both a ship ending and a Non ship ending, and just lets you roll with whatever punches you want. For example, Marina’s wish of wanting to stay with Pearl in the section of Inkopolis Square being played when completing the disk. You could either call it romantic, or go with the interview’s wording and say it’s nostalgia(Or for an in game example, the storybook princess line. You can take that on its own and call it shipping fuel if you want, but there’s also lines detailing the reasons why these roles exist aside from that comparison, so it’s whatever makes you happy. Yeah I know of the Base website, or thinking Acht was hitting on Pearl, but respectfully I still stand by this mindset(No idea what to make of Marina’s “Dear Senpai” from the manga, since On one hand, it is from SRL. And on the other hand…It’s the manga. Shadow Inklings aren’t canon for example)). The choice is up to you
Once again, I am sorry if this accidentally sounds like bashing opinions( /gen, again), ship what you wanna ship as long as you’re not a jerk about it. I can’t ship it myself due to uncomfy memories of the people who Are jerks about it, but you don’t necessarily have to Agree with me. This long winded rambling is just My two cents on the off topic matter
Either way, …Sorry for being so long winded about this. I get very descriptive with takes
As someone who does ship Marina & Pearl, I really like this take! I personally feel like Splatoon is a game with a story you can take some parts of it and fit it to your interpretation. Kinda like Minecraft where the developers leave little hints of story but don't outright confirm anything to let the players make their own stories. (If that makes any sense.) I'm aware Splatoon does have a confirmed storyline and all, but I feel like the developers leave out certain details so we (the players) can make own ideas on how the Splatoon world works.
Like with the relationships between the characters, the developers sometimes leave hints but never say it outright so the players can interpret how they like. Some relationships as romantic or platonic and they're both valid to do so! (Granted if they're not being jerks about it..) So with Pearl and Marina's relationship, just like you said, can be viewed as being a couple or just really good friends. (Personally, I think the reason their relationship is never clarified is because of potential censorship, but that's just me.)
Sorry if this comment is super long or doesn't make any sense. I barely comment, but when I do, they tend to be very lengthy.. I'm also not really good at putting my thoughts into words so I might've misused some words or repeated myself.
your channel is a goldmine man
I just hope this wont ve the last dlc we will get
With the questions about Acht, I kinda wonder what kind of weapon, they would’ve used? Would it be like an Octo-shot, or would it be something else??
i personally headcanon them as an e-liter main cause. i just think its neat lol.
@@sophont_sea_anemone I could see that, and ig it would also explain the injury she got on her hand cause of the charge time of the weapon. But we would never know the truth :)
That info on Parallel Canon is interesting to me cause it backs up an idea I had to give 4 a bigger role in my AU’s version of Side Order.
Background summary: I’m working off the idea of 4 being left behind in the Canyon. By this time in the plot, the NNSS have realized their mistake and are trying to make up for it, but then Alterna and Side Order happen at about the same time. 4, getting a heads up about the weird things going on in Inkopolis, skips town but doesn’t get out unscathed. Losing both her skills in fighting and a good chunk of her frustrations, to mixed reception.
Meanwhile, 8 is climbing the tower, fixing pallets one by one, unaware that something is growing, learning, watching in the background. Until 8 has their own pallet.
Once that happens, the figure makes its presence known. It’s a Parallel Canon model with a crop jacket, yellow eyes, and seaweed in its hair. And it holds a grudge. Giving the name Vanish, it airs out a few grievances before challenging the group to a battle and leaving. (Again, in summary)
What they find near the top is a version of Girl Power Station, protect the orb for four minutes against three opponents: Vanish, a PC of Cap’n 3 (who looks more like her agent form), and a PC of 8, without Pearl as backup, all while a song in Vanish’s voice drives home how lonely and scared she’s been, and how frustrating it is being left again and again.
(That’s all I have so far.)
After their 3 month slumber, rassicas returns
I love all the art we got
Maybe the more humanoid form of an octotrooper could be what the Octo Samurai is? Face and proportions of a humanoid because that’s what survives best in the world
32:50 I think that the humanoid formed octo trooper is a developed tentacle but it is not a octoling
Thank you all for the work put into this video!! really enjoyed it :)
hear me out. what if octolings can reproduce both sexually and asexually? sexual reproduction has a similar development to inklings, while asexual reproduction involves the "octarians that metamorphose into octolings" thing. that exists in irl critters, and notably, ocean creatures are some of the most prominent examples! sea anemones, starfish, siphonophores, corals, and even some molluscs are capable of both types of reproduction, with varying levels of preference for one or the other - as seen in an article published by uc santa barbara! the evidence seems to indicate that octarians are the same way.
What I think couldve made more clear is that I believe they can reproduce both ways. sexually= results in octoling with same development as inklings. asexually= the canon tentacle cutting. The point of ambiguity is if that tentacle cutting can somehow develop into an octoling or not, and by extension, if octolings are even made through sexual reproduction in the domes. Real life octopuses and squids reproduce sexually, and the asexual cutting of tentacles is based on how there's a brain-like cluster of neurons in every octopus' limbs, but that developing into its own being is not something that happens irl for octopuses.
34:18 i think that octolings are born by being cut from a tentacle, but whether or not they "metamorphose" is either completely up to a genetic "X factor" that happen to give them the ability, OR some external anime-like factor of having to go through extreme moments of motivation (e.g being motivated by hearing Calimari Inkantation/Ebb and Flow). Essentially, I don't think even in-universe characters really understand what qualities they need to have or reach in order to breach the metamorphic state.
You know, I won't be surprised Agent 4 does become a notably powerful character when (or "if", really) referenced in later games. I mean, we're talking about an agent who mastered a variety of weapons to defeat Octavio and save Callie. As a way to give a little disambiguation to each agent for people intentionally left with little and vague character, that wouls seem to be the most logical course to barely define 4. That said, what does it really matter how powerful any of these guys are? Apparently they are all chumps in turf war (I'm in a rut).
omg, please everyone say thanks to the greates splatoon lore youtuber for this masterpiece
saw the articles in japanese and specifically decided to wait for you to make a video instead of using a translator
saw another person covering the article and specifically decided to wait for you to make a video
and I'm glad I waited
Ok...so where does isopodre sleep once the cafe closes
4:50 "So that players can enjoy a different experience each time"
Meanwhile, me building bomb rush every single run:
Here’s a theory on octoling / octotarian birth! perhaps octolings are formed from a cut-off tentacle, but, thanks to their humanoid from, they can reproduce, explaining the young octoling from SashiMori! so his parents perhaps would’ve both come from cut-off tentacles, and he came from them, resulting in an inkling-like growth! :D
WAIT! Yknow how some octolings have green eye whites? What if THOSE octolings come from cut tentacles, and characters like Marina and Agent 8 were birthed by two parents. Lmao idk just a thought.
19:51 this sounds so horrifying i love it so much😭
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For the Octolings and Octarians thing, it could be that some Octarians can become Octolings while some can't and it's either totally random or pre-determined by something(maybe octarians can only form other octarians while octolings can only form other octolings, but then that would imply they're two different species... maybe only octarians/descendants of octarians who came into contact with the crystalized memories from alterna can gain an octoling form? I have no idea)
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(Hi kai, if you still go by that :) )
I'm so glad agent 4 got to be a character in side order, even if she's a brainwashed clone. If only we could have gotten a super boss version of her like inner 3.
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Arghh- just still wondering why Marina and Acht look different than the rest of the octoling soldiers?! Acht looks like the only octoling with piercings, and Marina’s blue colored hair, both of them having different eye shapes and colors compared to the rest.
more than likely it's just to make them stand out. with hair, from the playable octolings, we obviously know they have a variety of hairstyles/colours etc. if they made acht and marina look exactly the same as the others it could make them hard to pick out.. and acht's piercings probably play into them being a 'rebel'. also i imagine they have side-protagonist aesthetic bonuses lol
It is because Marina and Acht are main characters and the other octoling soldiers are not
The real question - If all Octolings we see in combat school are female, how can male octolings exist? Are they just not in the military or in separate classes/schools? Heck, all Octolings we see in-game that are not player characters are guys. Octavio is essentially the only male Octoling in the entire game, not including player characters.
@@CorviKid999 - In reality, moooost octopus species are female dominant, to the point that they are usually bigger and more aggressive than the males. It's possible that, Octavio aside, male Octolings are seen as inferior military assets. Or maybe Octavio is just weird. Society can be about social norms rather than objective facts, after all.
@@Junosensei Or Octavio is transmasc
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I would guess that the cut tentacles never become octolings, but the early stages of naturally born octolings are physically similar to the cut tentacle ones, and/or a significant number of octoling babies fail to develop fully and those ones are treated like the cut tentacles.
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Im my head, octotroopers and the like are severed tentacles, octolings are separate, perhaps the main species
However, some octarians CAN eventualy reach a higher level of inteligence and complexity
No matter if DJ Octavio is an old enough octarian (unlikely) or a octoling perpetualy in octopuss form (perhaps with age you get locked in whatever form you mostly use like how cuttlefish only turned to a squid cuz of extreme methods) there is still the octo samurai, wich is an ancient octoweapon, made with severed tentacles from octavio from the great turf war, he is just barely humanoid
The octosamurai is honestly quite similar to the manga depiction of those humanoid octarians and could be a similar process to that concept art, but it takes insane lengthy time, and pethaps some level of genetic engeniering
I like 4 being the strongest because it gives her something.
3 is the original.
8 is in the best story mode and first playable octoling.
And NEO is the new kid.
Give 4 the title of strongest agent at the very least.
NEW RASSICAS VIDEO YEAAAAAHHHHH
i dont get why some of these lore related stuff isnt mentioned in game,
ik things like why pearl is a drone and other things are mentioned in scrolls,
but why dont you see much info on the npcs on the hub?
Thank you so much for creating this video! What would you say is the best method for learning Japanese, btw?
Textbooks, immersion, and having conversation/drill partners (preferrably native or fluent) are all valid. Also, vocab and reading skills come naturally in time as you immerse yourself, so I highly recommend focusing on particle structure/grammar and ritual language (learning non-literal phrases and language patterns said all the time in society). ^^
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19:50 this sounds like someone trying to sing ebb and flow while giving birth
Why wasn't one of the questions "WHY IS THERE NO TACTICOOLER IN SIDE ORDER. IM UNINSTALLING"
Oh yes, rassicas I missed you so much
Do you think parellel cannons are like the dark versions from the manga????
WHO WERE THE FAMILIAR SEA URCHIN?!
Spyke or Murch, most likely Spyke since they talk about an alley and that's where he is.
I don’t think octoling parents proves octolings reproduce the same way.
Hypothetically if pearl and marina had a kid cause marina cut off a tentacle, both girls would be the parents even if only one of the is biologically related to them.
Me when rassicas video: 🙂
Lore!!!
4:52 you cant ride the train station (to get to side order dlc) without internet so i dont know what this is about?
I mean, you need internet to buy it but after you do it you can play it offline??
@@ramen7700 it says "downloadable content will not be avalable" when you play without internet for me
Are you going to make a side order lore video?
倒是很喜欢关卡里随处可见的水母设计
i like lore
omg rassicas from squid games
🩵 👗 sorry for being late I was trying to figure out how to wear a dress
I feel Dumb Playing TF2 Classic game of Steam, but Splatoon I've never touched that game ever since side order My friends don't know why Not even myself know why I stopped.💀
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i’m upset we didn’t get pearl and marina being confirmed lesbians😭
i guess its kinda simple to explain how octolings works and its that they have 2 ways of reproduction, the normal one by eggs that end up in a growth cycle like the inkling one and the one of the troopers that can become octolings by pure strenght of will like its says in haikara or being mass-produced by the army
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24:18
Does anyone else hear it sing ooooohh banna at 19:31
No....Just me.....ok
I’m so mad splatoon 3 is the end of this time line. or story. I would have loved to explore the octarian society. I wanna see what their towns are like how everything is ran. But we probably won’t ever get too see what that’s like
I hope that some characters will make reappearences like agent 4 as a villain or smth like that
first
get real
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great video, thank you for presenting these in a digestible way and also for taking the time to translate them, thanks to your friends as well obviously