What's The Best Transmission For Your Foxbody??? T-5, T-56, Powerglide..?
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Let's talk about some options you have in the foxbody world when it comes to transmissions.
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I have the early TKO behind a 347. Shifting at 6800 Rpm and I’ve been banging’ on that joker for 14 years and still going strong.
Nice!! 💪
I was a die hard manual guy.. then i got my 97gt with a JModded 4r70w and i absolutely love it.
TKO 500 Here. HCI 306. Trans has carbon fiber blocker rings. Power shifts perfectly. Different feel than a T5 but it works.
The more I see rolling shots of this car the younger I feel and the more I fall in love with it. Great advice also.
Thanks this was very helpful. You got enough experience with these cars and even though maybe some might have a little different opinion, your advice here won't steer anyone in the wrong direction who doesn't have any idea which way to turn.
I have an AOD with 4.10 and a silverfox valvebody. Completely changed the car love the car now
Love the trans content, not talked about enough and is so important, had a 88 and my uncle was a transmission guy, he rebuilt my C4 and was awesome. Wish I had my Fox still, at 23 I bought a 97 cobra was only few yrs old when I got it and still have it, your the first to say what's been in my head for years, damn I want a 56, the gear ratios were thought out for a car with power and built to take it, one day I'll install one. Great content love it keep it coming.
Im so glad I found your channel. Im in the process of building a 2000 Lightening drag truck powered by Jon Kaase BBF the motor cost more than my 1st house. Love the content
Another great video. Glad someone brought up that topic.
Thanks for this video, it's what I needed to know
I've had an old 3550 TKO in my old 87 forever. It's been bulletproof, but I agree that I don't like how it shifts either. I'm prepping the car to hand it down to my little cousin, and I now have my dad's old 89. I'm leaving the TKO in the 87 when I pass it on just because I like how the 89's T5 shifts so much better.
BREW2L I HAVE A AOD AND LIKE IT, I HAVE A DISABILITY SO I WORKS FOR ME , DOING 70 MPH ON THE HIGHWAY AT 1600 RPM😎😎
Going 75 I’m at 3000 on the high way
What gear are you running?
Awesome content....my t5s never lasted for even though I beat the crap outta of them...now the t5 upgraded with g force gears I had in my old turbo car was great....can't wait to get my coyote swap goin with the t56 never had one before
Thanks for the video just ordered the WC from LMR for my ‘93 5.0 with factory T5 because after founding that it’s much cheaper then doing a rebuild and get a new transmission locally….I hope all works out!
Great video Brew2L! Thank you for the shoutout. Love to get you into a Hanlon built trans 💪⚙.
Absolutely brother! We need to talk soon 👌
I was a 5 speed guy with my turbo car. 4r70w mvb changed my life lol.
Dang im looking to switch my trans to automatic once i finishing turboing my fox. Is it worth it?
@@joebroart it can be done pretty cheap, but will need some work. You can get upgraded clutches for it and maybe a few other parts, along with a j-mod. The bolt pattern from a v6 sn95/new edge will work with a 302/351w. The spendy part comes when you have to buy a stand-alone controller. That's about $1k(ish) for everything, last I checked. A cheaper option is a shift kit that converts the oem valve body to a manual valve body. They were around $250 I believe. Not sure on the availability of these parts, since it's been a couple yrs since I researched it.
@@joebroart another option is to swap the 4r70w gearset into an aod case, but I haven't found alot of info on it.
Great video brother! I know this video is almost a year old but I just bought a Red 93 LX and it has a tremec 3550 and in it and I was never super formilar with them. I hope momma is doing better man.
Man I liked this video alot!! Good Information and your car is really awesome. You really can jam them gears!
I have a t56 magnum I will let go cheap, it’s setup for a ls but with the right bell housing and clutch it could work with a Ford
Where are you located and how much are you looking for? I'd be interested if you're in California and the price is right
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@@edgaralderete5721 your risking alot if you doing shit like this in cali
So what your saying is just remove wallet from pants and throw it at the car lol 😂 great video bud keep up the good work!!!
That's pretty much what you do with a project/race car,lol. It's what i have to do.
Thanks for the video .. good info 👍
Thanks for all of your videos they have really helped with my project
My pleasure 👍
Yes sir
You ain't never lied about them damn TKO's man. They're like shifting a tractor but they can take a ass whoopin and keep on tickin.
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I have a AOD with a silver fox sptr valvebody and 4.10 gears and it totally transformed my car.
Is silver fox still building AODs?
Dude damn good video one of your best informative!!!
OMG!!! What a great video!!! And with my knowledge I couldn't agree with u more on all aspects!!! Personally, its a fresh, reinforced T5 all day long. If i was to upgrade and get a lil spicy. T56 for the win. If u run stick shift. Its hard to beat a beefy T5 unless u live on the track. G'Night Brother! 🍺😁👍
Really waiting for more tkx’s to get out there. On paper it looks like a great new option.
Just now getting this video in my recommendations and the tko stuff its true , ours we’ve had for years in various cars and they hold the power never broken but it seem over 6500 rpm they don’t want to shift you have to shift smooth/slowly and they shift oh well , liked the video 👍 too bad I watched it too late
Auto guys could look into the 4R70W. Plentiful, needs a controller though. Can be built crazy strong, lock up converter, controller tells every shift. Putting one behind a 408 in my dads '55 F100. US Shift controller. Hope to hit the street this summer...
As far as manuals go, T-5's are great trans's for stock to mild power apps and they have been known to take power. But the T56 is where it's at for strength.
agreed, wish the video had mentioned power levels. A T5 is a case of not if, but when it blows. considering how close it is to your thigh, that might be an issue for some.
I'm like you with tremecs .. I've missed ever gear but reverse with at wot. I think that's where a gr8:clutch comes in.. plus you mentioned Hanlon pro shifted tranny's .. I'd go that route
built t5 for the win👍🏼👍🏼
Just an FYI.......the new TKX has the strength of a TKO 600 and the shifting capabilities of a T56 without the extra price in parts needed to make them work in a FOXBODY.
Same bell housing and driveshaft as a TKO/3550?
@@chriswise1232 they bolt right up to a bellhousing that the TKO uses.
Hey guys looking to do that what else does it need?? Any driveshaft issues?
Verdict is still out on my Chinese cased Z-spec T-5 :)
I have a pa proformance street drag...love it....
Im putting a 3650 in my car. Good all around trans. Hanlon is the place to go for Tremec stuff 👊🏻
You can have a 3650 built for high rpm and more power for under a grand perfect trans for a coyote swap but you would need steep gear like 456 that would be baller.
When my convertible is finished i want to find me a notch or hatch to go with it, i love these cars
Just bought myself a T-5 today
Nasty burnout 😎
Thanks!
Great info! TKO are way different than a T5.
Yup I went with a tko 600 in my fox. It’s stock bottom end 302 with hci and vortech on 10psi. The transmission had a blown second gear scynchro and always shifted notchy blocking me out of gears. Smh next time it breaks ima going t56
I can't believe you did not mention the lentech aod that thing was a fucking monster. My best friend had one in his Mustang and it wasn't much more expensive than my Liberty Pro shifted Tremec
Real Teal will tell you, if you have an all out racing application but don’t want a glide or TH400...G101A 4 speed. Pricey, but will take huge power with ease.
Great video brother! Appreciate the advertisement!
You got it brother! Y’all go check these guys out!
Great point of view. I cant for some reason shit a t56. T5 for the win.
Mgw shifter definitely helps the t-56 out.
@@BREW2LFOXBODY never ran an mgw
My built t5 z spec lasted awhile until going boosted & making 570/660 on 8psi lasted about 6-8 runs in Mexico. Went PA C4 setup was easier drive & lil quicker but sucks highway driving even with 3:08s in rear. & now ditching and in process go t56 magnum w/ 3:73s
I've decided to go with a 4r70 with my build
I have a Lentech Strip Terminator AOD rated to 1000 hp in mine works awesome in my Turbo car. I agree 100 percent on the TKO. T56 is king imo for a stick. I had an Astro A5 and G force T5 and imo for a moderately powerful NA car they are the way to go price wise for most people.
I just bought a 500 horse T-5 from Pro Motion Powertrain. They are building it now. It's got Cryogenic treated gearset, cluster support plate, and a couple other goodies. I can't wait to get that bitch in!!
The list you named are good one's. But I got a Dynamic Racing Mighty Might X6 C4. There top of the line. Racing Powerglide input shaft. Reverse valve body carbon fiber clutches. Transbrake.TCI bigger transmission oil pan TCI Outlaw shifter. SFI approved flywheel SFI approved bell housing and a Gear Vendor overdrive kit. Makes her a 6 speed. Cost alot but I am happy with it. And that is what really counts. But it is all on what you want.
Nice
Great video and info. I'm running a TKX behind my turbo 363 street car and love it. Just built a 79 with a NA 347 and had an AOD built with a C6 input shaft. I wanna be able to track it a few times a year but mostly its a street car. What rear gear you recommend in it? May add a 100 shot as well. car makes 400 wheel now... Thanks!
I just picked up my T45 for my Crown Vic from a guy who built it up with some nice upgrades. 26 spline input shaft, billet forks, new carbon synchros and sliders. All in I'm so much cheaper that a T56 I figure it was a no brainer. Most people online shit on the T5 and T45 but the T45 is essentially a 5 speed T56. Sometimes I find people just want a T56 to say they have a T56.
T45 has an integral bell housing. It fits the 4.6/5.4 and that's it.
Funny you posted this video bc I’ve been going back and forth on what trans I’m going to run on my coyote swap. Just wanted to clear up one thing you said: You said you can run a 4.56 gear behind a t56 but the cobra t56 that you mentioned has a .63 6th gear which is the same ratio as the 3650 and z-spec t5 have for 5th so cruising rpm would be the same. The cobra t56 has a longer 1st gear(2.66) and the extra ratio for acceleration(5th) before hitting overdrive. The magnum t56 has a taller .50 6th gear ratio available though that would lower cruising rpms and has a shorter 1st gear(2.97) for acceleration. I’m leaning toward a Hanlon 3650 with a McLeod RST dual disk clutch. When you drove calebs red car did it shift like butter bc you were straight up bangin gears. Not quite as good as 5.0tussin but real close haha. Keep the vids coming brother
You are correct but that lower 5th gear makes running higher speeds with a low gear easier but yea crusing rpm wouldnt change much if any (t5 are like .68 or something).
Love my Lentech AOD street terminator. 4r70 internals, auto shift with fixed line pressure, can handle 750+ HP. Customer service with Lentech is also fantastic. I'm running a stock block 302 with an on 3 kit, 3200 stall from edge racing, 3.31 gear, dynoed at 491 to the tire, fun street car.
How much did that trans build run you
@@southtxjay4261
4393 was the invoice total with $400 shipping and $250 core deposit, the converter is from edge racing which was $646 with shipping.
I currently have a tremec 3550 in my foxbody station wagon but I recently found an old Ford aftermarket T56. I have yet to install it. The wagon is a street car and 1st gear is short and I get locked out of 2nd on downshifts and the gap between 4th and 5th drops the rpms moee than I'd like. The T56 I bought has a taller 1st gear and fills the gap between 4th and overdrive with another overdrive gear. My plan is to build a better 351W and install the 6 speed with the new engine.
Good information! Keeping the AOD for my 89, but will rebuild it with stronger parts.
I got a 1990 25th anniversary car just got some BBK headers and exhaust automatic Factory trans and I can blow 2nd gear off in it first automatic Mustang I've ever had in my life that will burn second yeah posi traction for quite a ways but I think I'm right around 200 hp LOL car still got everything smog pump AC Etc back seat is missing rug but it does have airbags which I plan on ripping out my friend an older fellow that's in the building fox bodies looked at it and said that he wouldn't touch it.... but it's going to get some work this year..... under the hood looks very unmolested he said LOL you said it's so clean under the hood it looks like brand new it does have under a hundred thousand miles
@@shawnlibby675 I got about the same issue with my non-HO E6 head AOD. Rear control arms are coming up in the near future!
@@brokentoolgarage8609 my buddy's got the truck non h o e 6 head five speed car
Me and him were talking about the truck motor and has 88 that he swapped in it one thing we noticed about the car was it was very torquey could shift 3 Gears of rubber quick 355 gears I think was but his mile per hour was very tacky needless to say I'm all the highwomen on the highway it threw a rod bearing
@@shawnlibby675 Yes, I am very impressed with the low end torque of a "non performance" engine. I use mine in autocross, so low end torque is crucial.
You said it right, it was the 3550 back in the day. The TR-3650 is what's behind the 01 1/2 - 04 Mustang GT's. They don't bolt up to a small block Ford and the bellhousing isn't removable. So T-5 all the way!! I just bought a 500 horse T-5 from Pro Motion Powertrain for $2,650. And I don't have to buy a bellhousing, clutch, or nothing. Just literately bolt it in and haul ass. Haha!!
As far as driveability goes, the new TKX is a huge improvement over the TKOs that I've had.
T-56 magnum!!!!!!💪🏼
I got a g-force built t-5 thing shifts like butter and can handle some power in building a 351w right now and I’m gonna be putting it behind it with 4.10s gonna be a fun street car
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Why do you want to run a steep gear?
Why not 373?? 🤷♂️
@@EASTCOASTIMPERIAL just for fun I’ve ran 3.73 before I wanna try something different
@@ponyboywils9950 i would throw some worked 11r heads on that thing with big valves to work with your displacement. That and a nice cam and intake etc make it pull hard mid to top end with those 4.10s that thing will rip lol.
@@midnight347 gonna be running the trickflow stage 2 cam and I got a set of D5te 351 heads i ported and polished with 1.90 1.60 valves and had them milled to 56cc combustion chambers and I got a qft 650 Double pumper and a speedmaster single plane for it and the block is bored .040 over running stock rods and crank with speed pro hyper pistons
Just put a t56 magnum in my 90 gt with a 383w after pieces scattered from the tko600.
I have an 04 GTO which people get a little confused it's got the revised LS1 5.7 which is the 2004 LS which is called an LS6 has an LS6 Factory intake also I guess people get confused thinking it's the first gen LS1 5.7 that came in the Camaros the revised 5.7 is 400 crank horsepower Factory with241heads got a set of S TV 243 heads I'm going to throw and the revised T56 supposed to be I think a longer third gear and I think it's the Third revised of the T56 from GM so tempted to rip it out and do a fox build and possibly buy a magnum XL
And then there is Rodney. He told me he runs a Valeo organic in hit t5,s "Anything cheap he said"
I have a t56 for my chevelle however if I break it I think I might try that tkx. Something about building a motor that turns some rpms with a deep gear and a manual trans.
I just did a tkx swap from aod . So far smoothest tranny I have used next to my t56 . Hell of a trans . And only way to go for the money . T5 for 2100 or tkx for 2795 .
I’ll take a built T-5 due to weight
Have you driven a t56 magnum? Just put one in and my god so nice.
TorqueFlight 727B!
Ha! 😆made ya look
I have a t5 in my with a 5.0
Daaaamn I didn't know you got up with foxcast .. where's that vid at man?
It’s an older video from last year at Ford Takeover. FoxCast is my brother from a different mother 😎😂
@@BREW2LFOXBODY hell yeah. I know driving his car was crazy!!
I have a ol srod 4 speed in my 82 5.0, I like it, just don’t think it’ll hold a lot of power
Getting ready to install a Lentech 4R70w in my car. I'm a paraplegic so auto to go for me
That’s another badass transmission 💪
@@BREW2LFOXBODY Lol a VERY $$$$ transmission!
I hope be putting out some content once its complete. Its going into my 93 RBM coupe w/ a blown 331stroker.
I’m looking at putting at small block c6 behind a 408 Windsor. I was hoping you would touch on the c6 a little
C6 isn't seen in mustangs alot,that I'm aware of, because of the size. C6 is what my dad's 77 F100 with a 390 has. Great trans,just pretty big.
I run a c6 with rev man valve body behind a 408. It fits but it's big. No problems so far
Sold a TKO because the damn thing wouldn’t shift past 6k. I went with the Astro A5 it’s the best transmission in my opinion. If something happens to this one I will get the TKX.
Astro is sick!! 😎👍
I have an A5 and LOVE it, still basically a T5 with the strength very close to a TKO. Small and lightweight and smooth shifting. Best of both worlds
Dude, when you gonna go the 5 lug route? Waiting for some 94/95 spindles?
My 93 lx currently has a T-5 that was for the 2.3l. I plan on keeping it with i 5.0 swap it.
I thought that won't bolt right up to a V8. i could be wrong
@@roygustafson7729 there's a different piece u have to get. Can't remember the name of it right now. But it has to do with the input shaft being different. Found out from a guy I know that those trans are liked because of the low geared 1st gear.
@@jasonlawson9311 you just taught me something I was unaware of My Friend.. would you mind replying when u find out that part. I thought it was possible was told not. Thank You for this info. I am definitely one to take advice and learn something new. I Appreciate You Buddy💪😎👍🙏😇 that will actually be a game changer for me as I have found plenty of 4 cylinders around my area. As you know the V8's are someone less common 🙏💯🌅
@@roygustafson7729 u have to get a V8 bellhousing and the proper pilot bearing.
Gforce 101a
Black magic clutch
idk about the t56 too much work, TKX is the way to go right now, less complicated than the t56, cheaper and it fits better.
I have tko I've missed more shifts! All this time I thought it was me,its great for driving not racing go t56
Glad to know I’m not the only one as well 😂😂👌
Your videos have been a big help and inspiration and keep up the good content
I’m thinking about tko but now you sold me a t56 but I need to know where to buy it
Thanks!!!!!! You are awesome 😎
I have a friend on Instagram sky_net_03 selling one. Give him a shout
4r70w 1997 or 1998 bolt right up. a control box with shift pedals. What going in mine.
Trying to decide which way to go. Can the stock drive shaft be used with any of the manuals, or will that have to be replaced too?
I wouldn't bother with a Borg Warner T-5 unless it has been upgraded with the GForce internals.
Hello. can you tell me/us about 2.5" versus 3" versus 3,5" on stock and tuned mustangs what gives most HP.
I know it's not a fox but I have a 95 automatic car I'm in the process of rebuilding the engine I'm looking at a e cam with maybe a set of head kinda like you have on the Calypso clone but there Skip White cylinder heads what do you think about the aode in my car with a stall or would I be better off going c4 I don't drive the car much just car shows and maybe I'll go to the track every now and then
On my fox I have the T5Z newer gen, it does ok but at higher rpm I get lock out into 3rd, do you think maybe carbon fiber synchros will help?
Hello friend @brew2l, what clutch do you have in that turbo mustang? stg1, stg2 or stg3?
Which transmission would u say is the best for up to 1000hp on a coyote swapped Foxbody
i have a tko 600 kinda sorry i went that route all in all its about 3500-4k all new
No love for the 4 speed SROD? 🤣
t-56 baby
I have a questions but lemme explain my situation real fast, I have a rebuilt Heavy Duty AOD in my 5.0 w/3.73 gears. NA stock bottom end with some light mods. I'm mostly a "cruiser" but I like to lock it up from time to time and have fun. AOD trick etc. I drive it mostly in drive and only drop it in OD whenever I'm cruising over 60. My questions and concern is that my natural downshift from OD to D hits SO hard most of the time, I manually shift it down, so i'm constantly doing this all the time and its pretty annoying. Is there anything I can do to make it better?
I got tremec tko 600 I broke so many t5 that became my nickname T5 out ✌️😃😃
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To be honest just dropped a 1972 351 Cleveland out of a mach1 into my 1989 fox and am on the fence on what manual a want
That’s a really unique setup! I dig it 👍💪
Any chance the wheel on the pace car in the thumbnail can be identified??
I have a 1989 ford f250 351w and I want to make it 500hp what 5 speed transmission would hold up
What about the old school top loader?
How much should a notch back foxbody that’s not a turd meaning ok paint job ,ok everything ,manual should go for
Thoughts on the aftermarket gear set T5s like GForce or Astro A5?
Been there done that!...The gears aren't the weak point of a T-5, the main body case stretches in high power/torque applications and causes the gear mesh to spread. My 600HP twin turbo setup broke even a G-Force gearset in my T5. Always 3rd gear.
So a tr3650 will bolt up to an old 5.0L????
I’m actually looking for a cobra t56 for my Fox, do you know anybody who sells them? I don’t want the magnum version.
When we going to see foxcast vs Brew2l drag race lol
I believe Mr. B would hand out a dirty lesson time and time again to that Red hatch.
Hanlon built TR3650 here.
How is it? What did you have before and how do they compare? I was just looking at them today
@@shanebatten6473 It’s been really good to me. Definitely happy with it! Hit them up, Bob’s a super cool dude and really knows his stuff. He’s been in the stickshift world since I could remember. And that’s going back to teen years.
@@shanebatten6473 Same as everyone else with the T5. Then I went with a pro shifted tr3550 which was a bad ass trans and the 3650. The 3650 can be built to hold some really good power. Check out this article it may help you a little more.