Golden Loop - How to adjust for stitch height - Crochet Fundamentals #36
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- This video is part of a series on crochet techniques.
I show what the golden loop is and how it influences stitch height. Are you a janker, rider or lifter? How you treat that golden loop makes all the difference.
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Finally, I understand why I can never get the gauge correct in the height. Thank you so much!!!
You're welcome
Since changing the way one naturally crochets is so hard to accomplish it would be really helpful if pattern writers would tell us if they wrote the pattern for yankers, riders or lifters!
Jayda InStitches just put out a Christmas stocking video and mentioned that she crochets tightly (a yanker) and that one might need more yarn than she used for the project if they crochet loosely.
Oh, i so agree with you!
Best thing is to always gauge swatch. A pattern maker saying they are a tight crocheter (yanker) can be very subjective, because compared to another crocheter who identify as a tight crocheter they might be quite loose.
I've been crocheting for years and this is the first explanation of this problem I have come across. Once again, thank you Esther.
you are most welcome, happy to help :)
Thank you for solving an issue that I didn't even know existed. ❤
for some it really helps to know how to match guage if you are very off
Like Tracey, I've been crocheting a long time (53 years) and this is the first time I've ever heard this. I can get perfect gauge for width but have trouble with height. Thanks to you, I can try to correct this with the knowledge you've given us.
You're most welcome, happy to help :)
Omg I had no idea this was a thing! I'm definitely a natural yanker but now that you've pointed it out I realize now that I've been using all three to try and troubleshoot as I go 😂 Now I can see where my instincts were trying to take me, thank you!
so glad i could help you out
This was such a great explanation, thank you!
you're welcome
Thank you for this excellent video, I am a yanker and I never realised it, this helps so much!
you're welcome, glad it helped
I happened across this because I was making a project with multiple clusters (dc3tog) and noticed one set from the previous row of my shawl looked a lot smaller and noticed I was pulling higher on this row and wondered how I started that and what it appears to me is I try to match all my clusters to the first one I made on the row.
It’s really apparent while making a cluster or bobble.
Another fascinating fact I have discovered is that in-line crochet hooks and say Boye style, each make a different size chain.
The in-line(Susan Bates style ) eases the chain off the tip so much easier and therefore creates a smaller chain. Which could really affect length- particularly makes a difference in mosaic.
Ya know, it’s hard to really understand as you are learning crochet really, but with some experience and time, you start to notice and care about these sorts of things.
This has absolutely revolutionized my crochet strategies as someone who has struggled with gauge height forever. So helpful!!! Thank you so much for sharing!!!
youre welcome
THANK YOU - I have spent hours making gauge swatches. I am definitely a lifter and I have even altered patterns, making half double crochet instead of double crochet (American terms) in order for my projects to come out sized correctly. I'll practice this and try to unlearn some of my self-taught mistakes. Thanks again.
lifters generally have the most trouble with gauge. try to pull your loop back after making the stitch, kind of like the yankers do, maybe that helps you a bit :)
I'm a slight lifter...who knew! Had never heard of the golden loop! No wonder my work never comes out true to gauge! Even us novice crocheters learn new tricks! Thanks a ton!!!
these small things can really help to get a grip on why gauges differ so much
This is the best explanation I've seen so far to help me with my gauge! Think I'm more of a rider than a lifter, but also that the person who did the pattern I'm working on is almost definitley a yanker! Now I can go and do another swatch and see if I can get this cardigan rolling! Thanks so much!
indeed, if you are a lifter, and the designer is a yanker, gauge can be a disaster!
Omg. I have never known how to fix my short stitches until now!!! Thank you!!!!❤
You're most welcome :)
Such a thorough and precise explanation thank you so much Esther and blessings to you for helping us crocheters 🙏❤️🙏
WOW! I am all over the place. Thank you so much. I see an improvement already ❤
This video is an ‘oldie but goodie’ that Janie Crow linked us to in her latest newsletter!
This is important for me to review because I tend to be a lifter and if not careful, can throw off my guage!
Thank you so much for all the valuable information on your channel and website! 💖💕💖
So good to hear that I can help with the tricky bits, thank you for sharing :)
Thank you SO much for this beautifully explained video. I had never understood the golden loop before seeing your video. Now I know why when I used to do guage swatches, I couldn't get them to work out. Now, maybe, after more than 38+ years, I can actually make a right-sized garment! When I do amigurimi, I'm definitely a yanker!
Definitely a yanker here. Although I didn’t know that before watching this video. That has always been my exact problem with gauge, I’m good on the width, but not on the height. This is the best piece of crochet advice I have ever received. Thank you so much.
wonderful, glad to help
How interesting! I ALWAYS have issues reaching gauge; I'm not sure what I am (yanker, rider, lifter) but I know I always have issues. Definitely will have to research this golden loop more! BOY, I can just imagine the giggles coming from the group meeting this morning!
wonderful, this can give you a lot of insight in how you work, and how a certain crochet designer works.
Excellent video with clear descriptions. Best I have seen. Thank you!
You're welcome :)
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! Thank you for this info, and showing and explaining it so clearly!! I could not for the life of me figure out what is wrong with me, because there's nothing weird or wrong about the way I hold my hook and hold my yarn (I do both exactly like you do from what I can tell), and I make my stitches correctly. Yet my stitches and "square" swatches were always too short and too wide. Someone suggested doing extended dc, tr, etc, but I really hated to change my stitches from how they're supposed to be made.
I'm without a doubt a "yanker", and I've been doing it on purpose all these years! I tend to have a tight tension anyway (I mainly use thread too, which has to be tighter than yarn anyway), but I hate loose sloppy stitches, and I felt like making that "first loop" tighter made the stitch look neater. It does, and it holds it in place, but it's not worth it when it makes everything come out wrong.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
so glad to help!
I'm very new to crochet and always wondered what the best way was to pull up the "first" loop. Your video clearly explained this to me so now I'm going to "relearn" how to crochet a bit more. Thank you.
glad to help :)
Thank you for this! I'm somewhere between a rider and a yanker. Guess I need to develop different habits. I'm so happy that you addressed this.
You're most welcome. Sometimes we just need a small change to get our gauge right.
I've been crocheting for many many years but have never heard of the golden loop, nor about yankers, riders or lifters. Turns out I'm between a rider and lifter too. But for certain projects I've yanked by instinct to get to a certain height or when playing yarn chicken 😃
our instincts often lead us in the right way of working :D
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, thank you I would never have given it a thought I wondered why I can't do c2c they are diamond not square I shall now try and see what I am doing with my first stitch.
if your stitches are longer than they are wide, you will indeed get a diamond in C2C.
Great information! I have an extremely tight gauge and this has helped me tremendously! Thank you 🙏🏼
You're most welcome :)
Honestly I always wondered why my stitches were so loose even when going to a 3.0 size hook. Thank you for educating. I must change my style.
Good to hear that I can help you identify how to change your guage
Thank you so much, I could never work out what I was doing wrong and how to fix my gauge. So helpful!
wonderful, good to hear :)
Thank you! I’m self taught and didn’t know what was putting me off on gauge...I’m a bit of a lifter. Thank you again.
Happy to help!
Makes sense. I'll have to check & see for sure but I think I'm a yanker. Thx for sharing very interesting.
happy to help
Wow! great info. I am not sure why but I thought if I couldn't get my gauge it was just because we were two different people. This is amazing info! I can confidently venture on to apparel now because I properly understand gauge.
Knowledge gives you confidence 😊
Thanks for the tip! I've always wondered how to get the height gauge right!
Happy to help 😊
Wonderful video, thank you for explaining
You're welcome
this was very informative. thank you. i'm fairly new to crochet so this is good to know.
Glad it was helpful!
i just found you and so very excited i found you and subscribed..
Glad you like my work 😊
Thank you so much. I’ve never really thought about how I crochet. I think I may be between a rider and a lifter. Looking forward to the UBUNTU CAL.
just a few more days, and then ubuntu starts :)
thanks you very much .it is the first time l see the correcte way to work with the loops .l am so glad because it was never correct .lt is so important.l am sorry l am french frome Canada
You are welcome!
thank you for sharing!! it's gold indeed! i am so glad you explained it so well! it has always bugged me that i cannot get the gauge right no matter which hook i used. i gave up trying but recently tried a new project which didnt have gauge but have sizing. i gt the length right for number of stitches. bt not the rows' length. and while trying to find solution, someone on the internet mentioned "the golden loop" might be the solution. thanks again and have a great weekend!
great to hear, yes, that loop makes such a difference if you know about it
Great info, thank you!
You're welcome
I think this issue originated when people started using the "extended first finger" way of holding the working yarn. I was not taught that way, and my stitches have always been neat and taut without being tight. When a person holds the left-hand yarn in that extended-index finger position, it pulls the yarn up, sometimes to an exaggerated degree, and that creates these "lifted" stitches. (I've seen it in other videos, and I don't think the person was even aware they were doing it.) I crochet with a closed hand, with the yarn looped over my index finger, under the middle finger, over the ring finger, and under the pinkie finger. The release of the tension is accomplished by opening the hand briefly, then closing it again. I have yet to find *anyone* else nowadays who crochets this way -- it's a mystery to me. My grandmother taught it to me when I was 7, and I'm in my late fifties now. This "extended first finger" thing seems mostly a modern way of holding the yarn, though I have seen a few older adults doing it too...weird. At any rate, it stretches the yarn in a way that using a closed hand does not, and is more likely to create those tall lifted stitches.
I should mention that I don't "pull back" on the golden loop -- I use a pencil grip, not a knife hold, and there is no need to "pull back" on the stitch: the pencil grip allows me to angle the hook in such a way as to achieve a nice, taut stitch without being too tight. In other words, no slack/looseness, but not a stranglehold either. My gauge is excellent and I have completed many amigurumi projects that people have insisted are professional level. I used to make handmade teddy bears (completely sewn by hand) and I crocheted clothing for them and sold them as artisan pieces. So my crochet is more than decent and is considered by many to be high level; I'd be curious to see what the Crochet Guild of America would have to say about it, but I'm not motivated enough to spend $157 to find out.
Wish I'd had this last week when I fought to get a gauge swatch to work out!! This is the first project I've done that needed accurate gauge. (Frida's Flowers)
But now you know for next time 😊
Thank you so much for explaining this! 👍🏻
You're most welcome
Thank you so much. Now I finally understand what I've been doing wrong
Sometimes we just need a little help, and then we are good to go :)
Very useful info! ❤🧶
good to hear
Great instruction. Thanks, Esther!
You're welcome
Thank you so much for this education! I've always just used a smaller/larger hook depending...I have a tendency to be a tanker when working smalls (amigurumi) & have noticed that when I'm working a "mindless" stitch (basic DC - US terms), my stitches get higher.
being aware of your technique is the first step in getting an even tension
Wonderful! Thank you. Sent here by Skeiniac's Blog :)
Welcome!
Week, I am a rider. Interesting how we can adjust the height of the stitch. Thank you for the video tutorial. Now I just have to get my head around those UK terms. Much harder than I thought. Lol
You can always use the IS written pattern if that Works better for you 😊
It's all in a Nutshell Crochet I had a look at your tutorial in Dutch and decided to go that way. I learned from an aunt as a young child in the Netherlands, 65 years ago, and I still remember the terminology. I surprised myself. Love it !
just like riding a bike then :) We never forget!
Omg now I know why my DC and TC come out diagonal 😭 this will hopefully help me to fix the issue.
I hope so too :)
This is so good to know! Thank you so much!
you're welcome :)
I am so much a yanker!!, my work is so tight... hasn’t mattered until making Trinity Mandalas when finished work is too small for hoop! Brilliant video Esther, Thankyou for the excellent tutorial... will be practicing it today! 💕😊
Thank you - now I know why my squares are tall rectangles! I am definitely a lifer but now know how to correct this.
pull your yarn back after making a stitch, the the yankers do :)
Thank you
Thank you so much!
LOVE your channel
Thank you 😊
I just heard about this golden stitch thing. Wish everyone would teach this in the beginning or explain on tutorials. I had an older lady in her 80's teach me to crochet but I never knew anything about how to get a correct tension height....all anyone said was keep your tension even. Now, I'm trying to follow your instructions...thank you. I now am finding that I'm having a problem with that middle stitch becoming loosey goosey so to speak. Don't understand why but it ends up giving me a big gap on the stitch and at the top V. Can anyone explain how to fix this. I've not heard anyone mention it. It's really noticeable on a double crochet especially that first stitch say when you're doing a Granny square. Sorry for the long post. Thank you for any help on explaining the science technology of creating a stitch
maybe you are letting the yarn over slip more to the bottom of the hook, and keeping your working loop further up. this could lead to a gap between the middel loop and the Top V
@@Itsallinanutshell trying to understand. Are you saying I'm keeping my hook pointed up?
I have never heard of a golden loop, but in the blanket I am making one yarn is slightly thinner yhan the rest (same fiber content and weight category but different branch) consciously lifting the yarn to compensate and make tthe rows the same height. I thought I was just messing up my tension, being all over the place.
if the yarns are not the same thickness, you are doing a perfect job of compensating for it :)
Thank you. By the way. What is the correct height and width for all the stitches. Is there a chart or tutorial
There is no correct high as such. The correct size is determined by the gauge given in a particular pattern. So the idea is to change the way you make the stitches to match the gauge given by the designer.
great info, but I have been crocheting for 40 years. I hold my hook at a 45° angle or close to an even angle. I have learned even tension from years of proliferate practice, and maybe it is experience, but even if I can't quite come to gauge, I am able to make the project work, I may not always meet the gauge, but with consistency....btw I'm a leftie.
Consistency is king, absolutally.
I'm a yanker. 😳 No wonder I can't ever get gauge.
Maybe try to relax you hand holding your yarn. That could help with less janking of your yarn
I can't get my gauge right with or without the golden loop. I can't seem to get the row portion. I need 2 stitches in 1" the closest I can get is about 1 1/2 ish stitches in 2" What do I do now? So frustrated!!!
You could consider changing hook size, sometimes that helps
@@Itsallinanutshell Nope I even went and bough more hooks. Thank you though
i know this reply is very late so hopefully you've solved your problem already, but are you sure you're using the right stitches? maybe the pattern is using UK terms and you're used to US terms, so e.g. the pattern says double crochet and you're using US double crochet but you really should be doing US single crochet bc that's what a UK double crochet is?
@@snwfxnglcrcst I'm not stupid!!! I do know the difference but thanks.
@@houseceo2426 I'm sorry, I really didn't mean to imply you're stupid or anything like that. I personally didn't have any idea about the difference between UK and US crochet terms for a very long time when I started crocheting so I just thought I'd mention it just in case you also weren't aware of the difference. I hope you were able to fix your gauge problem.
Does this work for knitting too?
I cant answer that. I have too little knitting experience.