I am surprised there was no mention of the fact that his mom/family were not informed of his death until the following day when his mother got a call about his status as an organ donor!!! To me that is wild and clearly so mishandled
OMG! That is horrible and worries me so much. My family is spread across the country and this is my fear... not being notified right away. Just horrendous
Stephanie I have been a long time viewer. I almost never comment on any videos but I just want to thank you. I'm a SAHM of 3 with 1 year old twins and your videos really help me. I have ADHD and I have to have something to listen while I'm cleaning or doing task or I get distracted easily and don't finish my tasks. Your videos have become my safe place. You have no idea how much your videos have helped with my mental help. Thank you for all the work you put into them.
I can relate as well! I love to put my headphones in and listen to Stephanie’s stories…it helps drown out all the commotion and noise going on in my house and in my head.
Same, at least so far as being a mom who has ADD (only 1 kiddo, but also, am a single mom)- Stephanie’s videos give me the perfect thing to bribe myself with, for simultaneous reinforcement (where you get the reward at the same time while you’re doing the thing)
When you said that the friends and neighbors have no idea what they're talking about, I could've clapped. Abusers never show their true colors to anyone outside of the relationship if they can help it.
I definitely agree, but for law enforcement and for social workers (if kids are involved), you have to ask people outside the relationship to determine who the primary aggressor is, especially in a case like this where it's not as obvious. But most of the time, interviewing the parties will reveal who is the primary aggressor and who the reactive victim is. However, in this case, one of the parties is dead.
As a young man myself, I always appreciate Stephanie's wisdom. Her take on things is what keeps me coming back, because honestly I learn a lot about life from her opinions and past experiences. Thanks Stephanie, keep doing you!
I appreciate how steffanie normalizes voicing her own abuses history - showing those in an abusive relationship that it is OK to talk about it, there is help and there is happiness to be found once you get out and get safe! Thank you Steffanie. It took me so many years to say “I was a Victim and now I’m out and I’m ok”. That “victim”’word was hard for me, I guess it made me feel weak and/or like no one would believe me. But I wasn’t weak
Of course it isn't weak, you have to be incredibly strong to survive abuse but we live in a society with a CULTure where it seems the worst you can be is a victim and it is portrayed as being weak, vulnerable and even passive. There's something profoundly wrong and disturbing when there's more contempt for being a victim than being an abuser.
When you were talking about how the police officers must find it difficult to go to the same people time and time again and see that they are continuing to engage in those behaviours and it made me think of a story of when I called the police on my abuser and that night a police officer drove me back to my apartment and just a few months earlier there had been an incident where a woman in our community was killed by her husband he went into the home and used a baseball bat to start beating and attacking her the children ran out of the house and started running down the street screaming help my dad is killing my mom. The officer who drove me home asked me if I remembered that case and I said yes and he said to me I have to say this to you I have to tell you that I went to that house so many times and it eats me up to know that she’s now dead and I ask myself what more could I have done and the only thing more I could’ve done is talk to her person to person so I’m talking to you right now because I don’t wanna come back here in a few months and I certainly don’t wanna come back here to find you’ve been murdered. Really shook me up. That same cop sat with me during the entire trial and would walk me to my car after the court proceedings
These days when all we seem to hear about the police is negative your experience with a policeman who went out of his way to warn you and then stand by you throughout the process warms my heart and gives me hope. Thank you so much for sharing this, and congratulations on getting out of a terrible situations. Wishing you blessings and joy.
I’m a family law independent paralegal and I’ve had numerous male victims of DV. It’s more common than you would imagine but men have more shame and denial about being victims based on my experience and are reluctant to let anyone know they are victims, DV comes in all shapes, sizes and sexes
Absolutely. It's a shame that in our efforts to (rightly) empower women to speak up about their abuse, we sometimes forget that we should believe *all* victims, regardless of sex. I'm glad awareness seems to be spreading, though, as unfortunate as examples like this case are.
I've known couples who physically fought and I mean blood and black eyes. They're still married some 45 years later. There is a genuine lack, no there is no help for the poor and working classes just police and prison.
The worst part is that men heavily judge one another for being a "pansy" if they try to speak up about it. Their friends who they should be able to go to, mock them for doing so. I was at an event where a young man told a descriptive story in which he was aggressively abused, behind closed doors by his petite young girlfriend. You could sense his hurt, but also his apprehension in speaking his truth. The number of men in the audience, young and old, openly making negative remarks or giggling was appalling.
That girl had a massive temper and you can tell by the way she acted banging the screen on the elevator and repeating hitting him. If he were abusive and violent he would not have allowed that! Most women who are abused wouldn't antagonize their abuser. I think he did or said something to piss her off and she stabbed him out of anger.
I disagree w the part he couldnt be violent back. Plenty of men say "do it while u can, act out while u can"..and pay for it behind closed doors. I think they both were.
I grew up with this guy. He's known my family from the time he was in kindergarten. He's not violent at ALL. not aggressive at ALL. He had a crush on my sister for years, they were friends for over 20. None of us ever saw anything like that from him. He was truly a sweet guy. Her, on the other hand... she has a history of abusing her partners. It's literally on video and her past abuse is documented. They can't let her get away with this.
Can we possibly talk about Riley Whitelaw? She was 17 years old who was harassed by a coworker, and expressed to a manager she wasn’t comfortable with said coworker. Then she was murdered on her lunch break. In Colorado Springs. It was next to my workplace I saw the after effects. This one really shook my community
@@Stephanie-hi7kq oh let me get this straight, when talking about scary situations we can learn from, we’re not allowed to ask her to cover other cases? No. Bringing awareness to other situations is what Stephanie Harlowe is known for. The fact you want to knit pick my comment is sad. Let’s just be so laser focused on one case rather than look at all fucked up situations. Besides, I’ve asked Stephanie to cover cases in the past that she has done. Your comment is redundant to me. It was a case suggestion. Are you going to comment this under all her suggestions in comments? Because I’ve seen a lot of them on many other stories she’s covered too.
This is terrifying! Something told me to ride past my (typically very responsible) 17 year old daughter’s job on my way home one night. It was about 10:00pm and the store was closed. I saw her sitting up against her male manager, outside the building, shoulder to shoulder, watching TikTok’s…. In the pitch black!! 😑 He’s a bit older than her. Nothing crazy but over 18 and nothing about it sat right with me. I would love the details on a case like this so I can have a more productive discussion about the risks of inappropriate relationships at work, going with your gut, being as safe as possible, etc. RIP to that poor young girl. I can’t imagine the family’s pain or the shock to the community. It is very unsettling! 😔
I've commented a lot but I wanna say: if you have something that is provably yours (id, wallet, pictures, you have a receipt or registration) at your ex's place and you don't feel safe going in or they won't LET you in, you can ask the police for a civil standby. I realize that some may feel even less safe around the police and don't want them involved, but if you'd feel safer with the police there, a civil standby is literally part of their job.
I was married to my abuser for 7.5 years the house we bought was from my family and part of my inheritance, I did not have a job so the financing was done in his name, my name was not on the home loan at all. When I left he threatened me if I was to return. I called the cops to try and get my things they told me no because I was not on the home title. I had lived there the entire time and had to leave all of my belongings and my children's belongings until the divorce was final and there was a list of items I could get from the home. I could only take what was on that list. So even with requesting a civil standby does not mean you can get your items. I was not safe to ever return to that home with a civil standby or not. It is hard but sometimes you have to cut your loss and walk away.
@@jessileekelly7375 I am so sorry to hear that. That's completely ridiculous and I'm sorry you were failed by the system. I didn't realize that it like that in other places. I live in Texas in a small town and my friend is a police dispatcher and told me about it when my brother was separating from his wife and I didn't feel he was safe. I'm glad you're away from that.
Asked for a civil standby once back when I still had a shred of respect left for US police departments, to get furniture back from an ex that had literally beat the shit out of both me and my puppy… cops acted annoyed like we were wasting their time, even though we called in advance, they were rushing us the whole time, although I asked them to stay out of plain view they left halfway through me getting my things and OPENLY DROVE PAST US even giving me a “thumbs up” out the patrol car window like “well looks like everything is ok so I’m gonna go now!” The ex ended up getting more pissed at me that I had called a cop. From personal experience at least in America, the cops usually don’t do shit to actually help you in situations like that LOL they’re trained to do bare minimum for their jobs and then go home
Courtney was probably on the phone with her mom to get their story straight, that is my first thought. "Mom, what do i do? I lost control and stabbed him, i cant go to jail for life"
It takes a very self-aware person to acknowledge and admit their biases, and that's why I respect you so much! Just a few minutes in but so grateful for another episode to listen to while I work away on this Friday morning.
Oh my goodness, thank you for covering this case! I went to high school with him. Though, we went to a large high school and I wasn’t friends with him, I always remember him being so kind to those around him! Such a heartbreaking case!
Say it with me…. MEN CAN BE ABUSED TOO. This is all the “proof” anyone should need. I will keep this brief, but anyone with common sense can see this man was killed in cold blood out of anger and this was in no way self defense. I hope she serves life in prison. Wishing his family peace.
I can't even believe how many comments I'm seeing of people defending her, like WTF? The comment right above yours, some girl is trying to say that in the elevator she only started hitting him because he was chasing her into the elevator and she snapped. Followed by another comment about how he would've been hitting her if the camera wasn't there (no answer as to why she was okay with hitting him though). I guarantee theses are the same kind of people who think that Amber Heard wasn't the the abuser either. I am surprised though because usually subscribers on Stephanie's channel are on the right side of things, but they seem to be missing the mark here and it's sad
I as a women believe it happens just as much if not more than it happens to women. My brothers, cousins and guy friends have all been hit/stalked and threatened by women at one point, yet not once did any of them call the police. They all said (when asked why they didn't report it), shes half my size, I’d get laughed out of station.
@@nonenamed1511 thank you for bringing that up. As someone who's been there, it's also hard in a lot of places, like where I live, to go to the authorities. One is the fear that they'll turn the tables on you and the man will be the one in cuffs. Also, the one time I called the cops while locked in the bathroom while she was outside with a knife, they said they wouldn't send anyone unless I was injured. It's hard to report to people who automatically assume the man is guilty or who don't take the situation seriously.
@@nonenamed1511 I agree, I don’t think I know one man in my life who hasn’t had a slap or some sort of assault off a woman where as I know a lot of women who have never been abused, myself included. Also domestic violence is a huge problem in a lot of lesbian relationships but that rarely gets talked about
Throwing a knife and having it land into someone, point first, is way harder than most people think it is. Not to mention the amount of force required if she did happen to throw it perfectly. What’s the point of lying about that if it was self defense?
@@llanes6287 that sounds awful and painful and I'm sorry thar happened to you. I think there are also more factors in this that the OP is trying to get at. Christian was a huge man and it would have been even harder for the knife to get that deep in his chest via throwing. He would have muscle and ribs protecting the area and she would have had to throw it really hard on top of having a perfect throw for it to land like that. Since she's not a professional or trained in knife throwing, so it would be nearly impossible. My dad liked to do knife throwing as a hobby growing up and I'm not sure he would be able to land a hit like that.
Everything about this case makes my blood boil, if the shoe was on the other foot and Christian had done this to her, THIS would be a completely different conversation. Him being let out on bail like her ? FORGET about it ! It’s sick how people find it hard to believe men can’t be victims and that most articles zoom in on her social media status. A murderer is a murderer, doesn’t matter how pretty you try to dress it up.
So when would self defense apply in your opinion? How would you change the law? No bail for anyone who is charged with 1st or 2nd degree murder? What criteria should exist for bail, besides the money?
@@oc2538 from everything in the press at the moment I don’t see any self defence here, she seems unhinged. I don’t think she should have got bail at all till the trail she’s a danger to others.
I know what your talking about Stephanie.. I’m leaving Friday. Staying isn’t healthy and it’s best I leave for myself and my daughter! I love you Stephanie, thanks for all you do!
I left a toxic relationship a couple of years ago and it was one the most difficult decision i ever made - despite everything, i loved that person very much. No regrets. It was the right decision. Stay strong.
I just have to say that Stephanie's random fascination with that damn tiger painting is exactly the kind of reason why I love her content so much lol. She focuses on these things that I'd personally focus on, even if nobody else really would. I just got done watching her TV length - and TV quality - literal mini series on Bonnie and Clyde, and her wondering about the well-being of the different animals throughout the series (along with her regularly referring to Clyde as a "baby dumbbell") is why she's my favorite
I was hoping you did this video! When I first saw the timeline my fist thought was that she stabbed him between the time he arrived w the sandwiches and then called her mom to tell her what she had just done. Notice that she spoke to her mom a few minutes. Hung up and called her again only speaking I think 7 minutes. Then she called 911 later. Regarding the elevator if he was the abuser he would’ve clocked her one good time and be done with it. But he doesn’t and it’s obvious he’s trying to block her from hitting him. I know an abusive man when I see one. I was in a toxic relationship with one for almost 10 years unfortunately. Great video!!! Can’t wait for an update.
I love love love how on the video title you used the victims name and not the accused murderers name. As it often is the case. Let’s not give her more recognition, and instead keep the victims name alive. Thank you for that steph
Unfortunately, this looks like she got very violent & out of control when drinking. Her history of drinking & doing out of control acts goes back legally so her record will hurt any "self-defense" claim. He thought he could handle her due to size differences but it only took 1 perfectly placed jab (even though I don't think she aimed to kill-just angry & hit spot dead-on out of dumb luck).
How many couples get in arguments everyday and no one gets stabbed. Shes entitled, I'd love to see her get the death penalty. Who cares if she was drunk. Again people get drunk and fight constantly and it doesn't end in murder. This man died and she stabbed him and that is the facts. No one was at risk of dying but him.
A lot of people believe she stabbed him between 4:33 when he got there and 4:43 when she called her mom, and that he was laying there bleeding for 13 minutes while she got her story together with her mom, before she called 911..
Thank you for this, Stephanie. The way you talked about abusive relationships, the onlyfans stuff, and repetitive arguments has made me feel so understood, seen, and validated. Just.... thank you.
I like what you said about how hard it must be for police officers to respond over and over and not be able to do anything about it. My ex was arrested many times for domestic abuse and for some dumb reason, I kept taking him back. I was 17 when I started dating him and he was 21. I gave birth to our daughter when I was 19 and I'll be damned if my daughter ever dates anyone who is 21 when she's 17. But anyway, I finally made it out of that abusive relationship. 11 years later, I am now married with 3 more beautiful children. I was at a local music festival a couple summers ago and an officer that had responded to many of my calls (and put my ex behind bars many times) came up to me, gave me a hug and told me he was happy to see me happy and that I seemed to be in a much better place. I'll never forget that moment.
IMO She was raised getting eveything she wanted and no consequences for her actions and there spawns an adult that thinks this is how the world works. She can throw temper tantrums and She will get everything her way. The world owes her anything she wants and its her way or here comes temper tantrum. It shows how she was brought up.
Still to this day she is being spoiled and taken care of by her parents. She called her Mom after she murdered Christian then her Dad took her out to a bar 5 days after the murder. So disgusting. RIP Christian and I pray justice is served! She knew she was toxic and controlling, she is also manipulative.
I guess maybe the benefit of her being semi-famous is that this case will actually see a courtroom. If she was less known, it wasn't "clickbait," etc., this case may have never caught the attention of the media and eventually pressure law enforcement to investigate further. I won't make a judgment until we know all the facts, but at the very least, this needs to be looked into more. I read an interview with his mother. It was heart breaking. She's a nurse, and apparently she had no idea he had died until she received a call from donor services during a shift at work. How incredibly traumatic to be notified in that way smh. It's like they didn't even care enough to inform her.
Yeah, Annie from 10 to Life covered this case aswell. And she said there that the mother didnt knew until the donor services called and even they where confused that nobody informed the mother. How cruel..
To add to making sure your name is on a lease/mortgage - this also applies if that person passes away. I lived with my boyfriend for two years but when he passed my name wasn't on anything so I had no say in what happened to the condo we shared. His death was sudden so the trauma of losing him was made even more horrendous by losing my home as well. Making sure your name is on a lease protects you from the worst that can happen, not just a relationship souring! Protect yourself and stay safe
My best friend works in the title business and she told me this years ago. For the exact reason you mentioned. She said there were so many times this has happened and it’s sad. Not only are you grieving for your loved one, adding the stress of losing your home on top of it is absolutely horrible. I had never thought about it before. It’s things you don’t want to think about, but it happens every single day. Especially if you buy a home with someone, always always make sure your name is on the deed.
the audio of an altercation before his death has just been released by tmz and it’s actually so sad hearing how distressed he was trying to talk to her😭
My brother and I both were DV victims in our respective relationships. Mine was very “behind closed doors” but his girlfriend was open in her abuse and people STILL didn’t take him seriously. I haven’t talked to my brother since I was maybe 20, and I’m 30 now. I really think that what he went through and the fact that no one seemed to care contributed to his mental decline. All DV is horrible, but I have a little extra empathy for male victims just based on what I’ve seen.
@@daisyjohnson5368 unfortunately he’s off social media, was out of state last time I heard, and has gone through a phone number change at least once. Neither of us have spoken to our dad in years as far as I know and we have different moms. He’s not an easy person to find unfortunately. I still have hope though.
@@dannyjames9239 what the fuck is your problem? This is such a disgusting thing to say to someone. You have no idea what their situation was like and it's gross and cruel for you to assume. You should be ashamed of yourself
I watched Casey Anthony's trial and I knew she was going to walk because the prosecution did no justice for Caylee. The jury can only decide based on the facts they are shown and I would have made the same call they did. I didn't watch Zimmerman's case so I can not say. I do hope prosecutors get justice for Christian and his family.
I was waiting for you to make this point! In relationships when one party makes A LOT MORE MONEY than the other, abuse is more likely to happen. That was my experience too. MY experience. DON’T COME FOR ME!
It puts a lot of stress on a relationship. Although it's not always the one that makes more money who is the abuser. For some if they are less financially in control abusing their partner would make the abuser feel more in control of their relationship. Dynamics in a dv relationship are so varied and complex.
I think this applies to any power differential. Race, age, socioeconomic status differences, attractiveness difference can also increase the risk. However, ultimately it depends on the 2 people involved and how they choose to respect and treat themselves and each other.
My name is Stephanie Corrigan and I am from the United States- Massachusetts, to be exact. I have been watching your content for quite some time and I have been very impressed with the amount of research and care you give each case. I was reaching out to hopefully get some attention for an unsolved missing person case that I recently found out about. My partner's aunt told us about her son's ex girlfriend Saniyya Dennis, a Buffalo State student who allegedly jumped off Niagara Falls to commit suicide a while back. However, there are many inconsistencies in the case, and the suicide theory doesn't add up, especially not to her family. the aunt told us there is a lot of human trafficking's in the area she disappeared from, which seems more likely than a suicide. If it was a suicide, her body should have washed up by now, as bodies from more recent jumps have appeared. It would be great to get more coverage in the case and to find out what happened to her! Thank you for your time!
The only thing I will say is about Stephanie claiming “there is no way he would attack her while she was on the phone with her mom” Unfortunately I personally was a victim of domestic abuse, and my abuser attacked me while I was on the phone with my mom. He took my phone from my hand, told my mom I would call her back and then tossed my phone across the room. My mom hear the attack happening because he did not hang up the phone, and she called the police.
yeah a lot of people have been popping in with their own stories of this.. I am shocked it's so common. You would think that the logical part of your brain would say "hey this isn't a good idea", but I guess anger overrides a lot of that
@@chellsiestevens1126 Yes this is such a good point. Same happened to my older sister in a DV relationship my mother called her and her boyfriend assumed she had called my mother for help so attacked her while she was on the phone and my mother was forced to listen to her being beaten up until one of them hung the phone up probably him. Although obviously in this case I believe Courtney was the aggressor and she deserves life in prison for cold blooded murder.
My abuser beat the hell out of my while i was driving and my grandmother was driving behind us. Luckily her and a woman in a minivan called the police. Sometimes they just dont care what family sees and hears.
@@StephanieHarlowe you would think. And I do think a lot of abusers can control it in public/in front of family but I guess there's a portion that just abuse no matter who's watching. My ex also def had impulse control issues.
@@pussymonster6707 We can see how other people in that same situation have reacted though, then use that to gauge whether it indicates guilty behaviour.
I’m glad you talked about how people may behave differently following grief or trauma. When my mother died (at the hospital), one evening, I was home alone with a toddler, my husband was away on business. I literally got dressed the next morning and took my kid to Kindermusik because I *seriously* didn’t know what else to do with myself. I had already been awake all night crying. The thought of sitting alone in my empty (except for my baby) house was unbearable. I tried to get my dad to come to me from the hospital, but he wouldn’t. He was a wreck too, of course. I wanted to be together, but that’s not what he needed. So the best thing I could do was try to distract myself. Fortunately, I’m not a minor celebrity, so no one filmed me with their phone at Kindermusik and then used it to shame me for a social media blast and tell the world it meant I didn’t care about my mother. It will be 20 years this November, and I’m still heartbroken and miss her. Courtney may have done many things wrong, but I just can’t trash talk her for sitting in a bar talking to her dad
Yeah tbh I just figured she wanted to get out of the apartment. Can't say I blame her, whether she killed him intentionally or in self defense or whatever, it makes sense she doesn't want to stay in the apartment where she killed her boyfriend. It could've been her dad that said to meet her at the bar and she just went along with it, not really thinking what might happen if someone recognized her.
I believe she stabbed him because she was angry and abusive and her anger and abuse finally went to far. I also think the real self defense was the very few times people claim to see him abuse her. There are numerous videos and eye witnesses statements of her abusing him and then some guy says I saw him hit her but what happened before that, was she attacking him and then he finally pushed and hit her back. It’s my opinion she was what some people call a mean drunk.
This video hit kind of hard today, we found out on Sunday that a man my husband deployed with and was still friends with died, this morning we found out it was because his girlfriend ran him over with her car... we are still waiting for more information to be released.
Was this in Oregon? We just had a case over the weekend in Salem where a woman ran over her ex multiple times, killing him. So horrible and sad. My condolences to you and your husband 🙏
Girl, same! My son's biological father was a monster. I begged his family for help for months on end. Nothing. Finally, I ended up in the ER and they called the police, who then convinced me that a protective order was necessary. I was terrified, but knew they were right. He went to jail, and all that chaos. His family immediately proceeded to attack me in full force. They called CPS with false reports multiple timed, APS with false reports( I lived with my elderly father at the time), they posted malicious lies online.. You name it. My point is that even when they did know, they still defended and denied and were just terrible all around. I hope things have gotten better for you and your daughter. It takes a lot to move on from such trauma.
I love the way you research and present these cases. I've been subscribed to you for sooo long! There was a young mother missing for about a month in the town I live in and her body was recently discovered about 2 weeks ago. They ruled it suicide but she was found in a wooded area behind a home and the ppl of the home were detained and released. I'm so curious to know way of suicide, how long was she deceased before they found her body etc. If you have time would u please look into it? Taylor Haynes, Morgan County Alabama.
This sounds like my oldest son and his ex wife's relationship. She has bipolar and BPD. She was abusive to him, but if you were just her friend or family they will believe her and think my son is the bad guy. She even left and abandoned their son with my son when he was 2. She used to get in his face and hit him trying to get him to react, then call the cops. She never, ever had a mark on her. Stupid thing is she would actually tell the cops she was the one doing it and they never did anything. So, so glad my son got away from her.
I agree and I think that Christian didn't see the danger he was in and get the Hell out of Dodge. Relationships and the living arrangements are complicated--but I don't think there was any way that she would have changed. She seemed to be a spoiled entitled brat that always got her way throughout her life. She let the situation get out of control instead of dealing with her anger issues and alcoholism. Had she called 911 instead of her mom maybe there could have been the slightest chance that he could have survived. Good to hear that your son got away from his abusive ex. It's unusual to hear about a mom leaving her 2 yr old baby. It says a lot about her. It sounds like your grandchild was spared as well. I hope that you are all doing well !!
Thank you for calling out the subscribers on OnlyFans as creepy. I don't judge content creators because sometimes ppl are desperate (it's tough out here). But I'm tired of acting like these creeps are normal.
I'm sorry. As someone who was in an abusive relationship the LAST thing I would have ever done is attack him for fear of being beaten up. I walked on egg shells all the time.
As someone who was in a violent and abusive relationship I would absolutely lash out when cornered to try and create distance and escape being trapped. Same thing happens with all animals when the fight or flight response is triggered and you have no option to flee. That's why fearful dogs bite.
We have two videos of them and in both, she is trying to get away. As others are pointing out, she was trapped in the lift with him and likely lashing out.
Re: throwing things off balconies. I live in a condo, and one time my neighbor and his gf were having a fight. She started throwing his stuff off the balcony, including his TV. Then she pulled the fire alarm and ran away. Never underestimate how bananas some people are. lol
@@angelinalah I called the police, the son was taken away and a social worker came to talk to me about what I witnessed. I can't imagine going through that with one of my kids 😕
You hit the nail on the head Stephanie! No one on the outside knows the relationship dynamic behind closed doors. My former abuser was really good at making me look like the psycho and him the victim. It was disgusting.
Absolutely same. The only witnesses I had were our neighbours who heard me screaming, but because we were living in his father's house (without his father) they went to him, and of course he told them everything was fine... now we're in court. What a mess. I'm so sorry you had to go through something like what I escaped this year, but I am glad you made it out.
I don’t know. I was involved in a domestically violent relationship. My ex was the aggressor. I never once hurt him…because I never once dared. I knew he would kill me if I ever laid a hand on him. The video of the way she was in the elevator speaks volumes to me. It shows a lack of fear. Maybe they abused each other and it ended with her stabbing him in a crazed moment that she couldn’t take back. Somehow I doubt he tried to kill her and it was “defense”
I totally agree with you. I do not think this was self defence, she clearly has an an anger management problem. Even if they were both guilty of domestic violence , in my opinion she totally lost control, i do not believe he was trying to kill her or that the fight in that day was even serious enough for her to reach for a knife. Her behaviour clearly had been escalating for quite a while and that makes her quite dangerous.
Sounds like bpd maybe, exacerbated by alcohol. This woman was unstable and it's sad that she had so much wealth, nothing to worry about, yet she still couldn't be happy. If I made that kind of money, I would be kissing the ground every day I woke up. It's really sad
I was biased as well until my son turned 20 and became in an abusive relationship and she was the aggressor. No one believed him but I did. Like females u have to form a plan. U have to have proof and thankfully Johnny Depp gave my son the courage to admit and go through with forming his plan. what or secretly get it all on video. So when your son is at an age when he is dating and maybe she is abusive u will definitely throw biased out the window.
@@HumanimalChannel his case gave this person's son the courage to open up about his own abuse and change his situation. It is not citing Johnny Depp per se. This is his actual story.
Dear Stephanie. you are really wonderful. 🥰No one from the True Crime community tackles the subject in such a depth. It's not just crime and history, but a lot of psychology. 🙏Thanks for all the effort. 🙏With admiration I send you one big hug 😀from a small country in Europe - Slovenia.
I just can’t get past the fact that she called her mother first, yes she could have panicked and wanted advice but if he could be heard and that’s nearly 13 minutes after then he could have saved. That and the ongoing physical abuse that’s supported with video evidence, it’s very aggressive and he only responds defensively. As it stands it would be a failure of justice if she walks, will be interesting to see if anything else comes out at trial but seems like the only things supporting her narrative are well paid people that can write nice statements and her mother. Who she definitely had time to call and get her story straight.
So glad you’re covering this, before even watching I’ll say I’ve been following the case, I definitely believe she purposely stabbed him and not because she was in a life or death situation but because she was an angry drunk.
I’ve been watching you since I was pregnant with my daughter, and she’s about to turn three. I so appreciate all your hard work and all your amazing research and content. Thank you so much for four years!!
Thank you for acknowledging that men can be domestic abuse victims too. My dad was for years. I witnessed from birth until age 11. Won't go into detail but he wouldn't even put his hands up to block the blows. A lot of people wont even acknowledge it.
I cant remember the lawyers exact words but they were along the lines of, he was the worst kind of abuser. She wants people to think she was afraid for her life so my question is this. How many people who're afraid for their lives repeatedly punch the person they're afraid in the face? Wouldn't she not want to set the abuser off?
I'm not saying in this situation you are wrong, however reactive abuse is a thing. Victims get angry/ frustrated and will lash out at their abusers verbally or physically. Think Gabby Petito. When the cops questioned Gabby she was saying she was screaming at him and hitting him... but we wouldn't classify Gabby as the abuser.
In both videos she's trying to get away from him, and in the lift she is frantically tapping the lift panel to get away. He follows her in and traps her, and she reacts like many trapped animals do. She lashes out.
@@kdaveson people see what they wanna see or whats most comfortable for them while Ibdont believe she was a sadistic abuser what you've just described is a stretch.
@@kdaveson He didn't trap her in that elevator. That was all her attacking him as he did nothing but try to block and lightly push her away. Sorry but a fearful person doesn't just wildly attack the person they're supposedly afraid of
I’m glad you did a a video on this case. I felt like I knew almost nothing since it happened and you’ve really given us way more info! Thank you Stephanie🤍
"It's not abuse when I do it. I do it all the time." Classic abuser mentality. I bet she considers him trying to stop her from physically abusing him as him physically abusing her. Amber Heard tried to use that in her libel trial and truly believed it. She said Depp holding her wrists or trying to push him off her when she was physically attacking him was abusive behavior.
The thing that gets me when it comes to these type of relationships is that the vast majority will say that Christian couldn't be the victim bc he is bigger, physically stronger, and therefore more powerful. There's so many more variables that go into ipv relationships.
I don't disagree, but Stephanie's point about financial control was also interesting as I've encountered the exact opposite. I was the higher earner but my abuser made me feel inadequate for not earning far more than he did. He tapped right into my imposter syndrome and weaponised that against me - that even though I made more than him, I was still worth nothing. I can absolutely see that also being the case here, if some of the other opinions about sex work are anything to go by.
I was a sex worker for 5 years in my 20s and the best way I’ve ever described how it feels is “allowing yourself to be raped for compensation”. There are exceptions to everything of course, but even cam girls feel this way. To the men out there watching these women, just because they are good actresses and “play thru” the emotional pain your attention causes, and look like they are enjoying the attention, in her head she’s somewhere and someone else. She needs the money. You can’t survive in this world without atleast 3k per month.
You're voice should be heard! Too many young girls find this life style glamorous. Those fcking apps are not helping 😒 they're putting their physical and mental health at risk everyday and some don't see it until it's too late.
Honestly this is the result of a person that gets abused for reward. It's only a matter of time before sex workers have a break, turn to drugs, commit acts of violence, or self harm. No one can mentally handle that without hitting the self destruct button.
@@amberguillen2024 Sorry but I have to call bullshit there. Experiences of sex workers varies greatly, so these sweeping stereotypes aren't helpful. Many people who choose to be in and stay in the industry enjoy what they do.
If her X-rated content was posted the day after Christian’s death, it was likely scheduled, due to her being Baker acted immediately following the event. Usually, that consists of a 48 hour hold, with no electronics.
Defense: "he would abuser her when no one was around." Video taken in an elevator with no one else: *her actively hitting him and him trying to block her* EtA because certain people are making assumptions and assigning meaning that isn't here: I'm not saying Christian didn't hit her at any point in their relationship. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the defense claiming that he beat her when no one was around when there is video footage of her doing that to him. I don't know what he did/if he did anything to her. It's just an observation.
I'm wondering if anyone ever saw her with bruises or if she ever posted photos or videos where she had bruises or where she had areas of her body obviously covered with makeup. I'm guessing not. If she was always the aggressor towards him, there probably wouldn't be many physical signs on his body. But he was a big, well built dude. If he turned it around, there's a good chance she would have had marks.
It looked to me she wanted to leave, hence hitting the elevators panel. He followed her into that elevator just because he could. I believe there was a fight prior to what was shown. He knew what he was doing following her into the only way to escape. I've been there done that. When a person leaves their own home to get away from a person who won't stop their shit though, you've asked them many times probably screaming to just leave her alone. It becomes frustrating as a mf. So you just leave your home. They follow. You get really tired of this, and the anger rises you lash out, taking out your pent-up aggravation over a fucking person who won't listen and stay away from you. I know myself. When I'm put in a situation where I'm not comfortable and I ask them to leave me alone, and they won't, and my anger is building because they won't stop harassing you. The past shows that this behavior will lead to a huge fight, and you're trying to avoid that pattern that is an established pattern. You choose to leave your own home rather than deal with yet another fucking useless argument. That person knows what they are doing, and they continue to harass you as you're leaving in an elevator that you have to use to get outside. Well, then the frustration finally bursts and you whoop their ass. The very thing you were trying to avoid and would have avoided if they would of left you alone or not follow you while you are trying to leave. I am mentally ill and have anger issues that I can control. Unless you ask and ask a person to leave you alone. To go back to their home. To please leave you don't have to go home but you do need to leave mine. I can totally see that is what happened here. If you have never been in a situation like this with all the same factors you should keep your mouth shut because you just sound stupid.
I agree with Stephanie that the elevator video, while disturbing, should never be the sole piece of evidence that makes her the aggressor. He did follow her back into the elevator when she was trying to leave. Other people have seem him hit her. But we'd also be lying if we said there wasnt disturbing evidence against her as well.
@@Benleyy I'm not disagreeing. I just think it's funny that the defense decided to say that when there is video evidence that she decided to hit him when he wasn't doing anything to her in the video other than pushing her away from him. I don't know if he did things to her at any other point. We have nothing that we can physically see of that being the case.
@@pootieis42 that's not really what I got from that. To me it looked like they were going somewhere and she was already angry, but they were both leaving so he also got in the elevator. I don't know, that's just what it looked like to me. It didn't look like he was trying to do anything to her other than get her off of him. Also, please don't assume what I have or haven't been through. I was abused by my mother, her boyfriend, emotionally and sexually abused by partners, emotionally and physically abused by people who I thought were my friends, and a close high school friend of mine was murdered the year she turned 18. You don't know anything about my experiences and going off at me and telling me I need to "shut my mouth" because you think I don't know what I'm talking about because I was making fun of the defense being hypocritical is ignorant and condescending. Think about the way you're acting before invalidating another person's experiences just because you don't like what they have to say.
No way was it self defense and no way did she throw the knife like that.. what is she Rambo? I am however surprised that she is arrested again. I thought she would skate free. Love you Miss Harlow 💖💓🤍💕👏🏾💫🙏🏾💯
@@beautyonabarnbudget For me, after Rebecca Ruud got off after her daughter Savannahs murder, nothing in our so called Justice system surprises me. ☮️💜
@@beautyonabarnbudget well to be honest an attractive white woman and a black guy. Also how quickly they released her the first time was an indication that she'd walk free. But maybe not, hopefully not.
Stephanie I’ve been listening to you for a long time and I could easily notice how much unbiased you were in this video rather than your previous videos. I completely understand your rage and being biased about DA.Even you being biased is producing the best and my favorite true crime content in youtube, now you are evolving and developing your work. I love you, I’m so proud of you because you could have passed your trauma and heal from it. I enjoyed this video so much. Thank you for all you’ve done. Great job
I always look forward to your show. I Really like, that you take your time to talk about your sponsor at the beginning of Every episode. Not just a recording. Idk why, I just wanted to thank you for doing that. It's a different change
I was in an abusive relationship too and to everyone else, we were a "perfect couple". I was never brave enough to call the police. I was scared what would happen to me next if I did. I knew the abuse would be worse. I see alot of parallels in this case with my former life.
@@jelissasmith6971 I agree with you. Her actions were similar to my abuser with the alcoholic anger. In the end, my abuser chose alcohol over his family. He never got any help and ended up passing away because of it. That song, "Love the Way You Lie" always seems to be exactly what that relationship was to me.
Unfortunately I can too relate. I just moved out for the last time..I let my best friend talk me into moving myself & my 13yr old & 9mo. Old girls in with her. I'm now not worried, stressed, or anything else. I hope u have too found a better & safe environment
Just woke up and I’m immediately having a good day, for the simple fact that you posted a video today! ☺️ Have a great day Stephanie and everyone else!
@@CreatureCargaux I didn’t say I was excited for another murder video. Just the fact that Stephanie posted a video. I didn’t even watch the video before posting
Hi Stephanie, thanks for talking about the “repetitive argument” thing. Basically you said ‘if you know you know’ and I definitely know. I just broke up with my boyfriend yesterday because of this exact thing, and it’s been hard. It’s so easy to gaslight yourself into thinking things will get better. I loved my partner but I love myself more and I wish this to everyone else in this situation. It’s hard but you will get through it! You deserve to feel safe and happy in your relationship- don’t settle 💕
I'm not saying this to try to change your mind at all but marriage counselors say that about 80% of issues a couple has will not be resolved. People just learn to compromise, adjust or separate. So having the same issues come up over and over again doesn't mean the relationship is bad it's pretty normal.
As someone who was in a relationship similar to this, you saying “no way he would attack her while she was on the phone” my ex husband tried to kill me WHILE I was on the phone with my mom screaming. My entire family, friends, everyone, knew I was being abused. My ex dragged me back home from the neighbors house by my hair, in front of my neighbors while they watched. Not every abuse situation is a hidden situation.
In Canada, when a couple resides together, it is considered the “matrimonial“ home. It doesn’t matter who’s name is on the lease or mortgage. I believe you would need a restraining order to remove natural allowance to be in the home.
As a person who suffered from someone with alcohol addiction I totally support the statement that too much of alcohol is NEVER a good thing! Two bottles of Grey Goose?? 😳😨Stay away from those kinda people or run! Before it’s too late ‼️‼️‼️
It’s possible that he knew there were cameras in the elevator 🤷🏻♀️ Or maybe he wasn’t physically abusive, but mentally and emotionally abusive instead. So hard to know when we only have one side of this story 😕
Because he was already winning in the elevator. She obviously didn't want him in there and he forced himself into her space and she was trapped there with him. His presence in an enclosed space with someone who didn't want him there could also be considered abusive behaviour
Steph I’ve been watching you for a while but I recently got a kitten and she also loves watching you! She loves how much you move your hands when you talk and she’ll put her paws on the screen 🥹.
Great job covering this and being unbiased!❤️ I agree that ultimately Courtney is guilty. She allowed her emotions to get the best of her and she made a horrible impulsive decision that I believe she must be held accountable for. I think she knows that too. Hence why she was feeling suicidal. The magnitude of what she did hit her like a ton of bricks. I like how you highlighted how complicated these toxic relationships can be. There’s nothing cut and dry about them. I also like how you described repetitive argument’s because you totally nailed it.
Girl I was watching retro commercials here on RUclips and then your notification popped up and I said "ooohhh coffee and crime time! ' and switched over. I was just watching the elevator vid on this case yesterday and a little info but I know you will be doing a deep dive and I'm here for it. 😊😊😊 I don't want to say what I think yet till I hear all your facts Stephanie. ❤️Have a wonderful weekend!
Stephanie Harlowe on alcohol: "I'm a big fan." Lmao, me sipping on Evan Williams, laying in bed after a long work day, getting ready to make a grilled cheese at 11:30pm, harming absolutely no one. Thank you Stephanie!
First let me say, that "stripper at the dive bar" is likely doing what she feels she has to do as well, just for less money. About the stabbing, I think they fought from the time he came through the door, she stabbed him and then called her mother, to give him time to die and to give herself an alibi of sorts. After 7 minutes, or was it 6 - I don't remember which order it was in - she hung up, realized he still needed more time, called her mom back directly like she just remembered something else she hadn't said, stretched it as long as she could and decided she might as well call for real help. I hope she is as popular in lockup as she is online. That poor boy is dead and anybody can say whatever they want to about him, paint him as the worst criminal and he can't refute their claims.
@@mischr13 she said the girl was a professional but instead was being treated “like a stripper in a dive bar” as if one deserves less respect than the other. So basically she respects sex workers as long as they’re up to her standards
@@sumr3224 Wow. Dial it back, Ma'am! Stephanie clearly meant the men asking the questions and making comments were being disrespectful as if "she was a stripper in a dive bar" NOT doing a professional, sit down, podcast interview!! 😂 Jaysus! Yes, there are different ways to behave in different settings! "woooo baby, shake your tail feathers! Show me that ass" would be marginally appropriate heckling in a gentleman's club - is it appropriate to tell a lady to stand up and do the same in the middle of a filmed, professional interview? Not so much. I know y'all love to hate Steph... But let's pick something real, huh? ✌️
How could she feel like she was in imminent danger if she threw the knife from 10 ft away? if he was 10 ft away she could at least hide in the bathroom or leave.
Stephanie, you did a good job in this video and did so very objectively without bias. Additionally, the amount of information and insight you' provided far exceeds what I've seen in other reports. As always, awesome job.
I just watched the elevator part and heard her attorney's statement. Her attorney is a hypocrite. He said this video gas no bearing on what happened and that the case is about what happened that night and only that night. However he also states that the police found an independent witness who allegedly saw Mr. Obumseli, sorry I don't know how to spell it, hitting Ms. Cox while he was in his apartment. So which is it? Either the case can only be based on the events that occurred the night Ms. Cox killed Mr. Obumseli or their life together and the the events of that night. I don't really think what they were arguing about is relevant per say. I don't think she meant to kill him but the reality is that she did kill him. I 💯 don't believe it was self defense. She needs to go to prison.
In CA if someone gets mail at your property and have some belongings there, they are presumed to be living there and you have to go through a process to evict even if they aren't on the lease.
As a former OF creator, it is very very common to pre record and schedule posts and even mass messages. I would record on my weekends off and schedule posts throughout the week
I am surprised there was no mention of the fact that his mom/family were not informed of his death until the following day when his mother got a call about his status as an organ donor!!! To me that is wild and clearly so mishandled
Oh wow.... That's heinous!!
Omg 😪 I cannot even imagine.
OMG! That is horrible and worries me so much. My family is spread across the country and this is my fear... not being notified right away. Just horrendous
So fucked up, its weird that part wasnt included
Woah I didn’t know that! That’s awful
Stephanie I have been a long time viewer. I almost never comment on any videos but I just want to thank you. I'm a SAHM of 3 with 1 year old twins and your videos really help me. I have ADHD and I have to have something to listen while I'm cleaning or doing task or I get distracted easily and don't finish my tasks. Your videos have become my safe place. You have no idea how much your videos have helped with my mental help. Thank you for all the work you put into them.
I can totally relate! Thanks so much for commenting and saying hi!
I relate sooo much!!!
I can relate as well! I love to put my headphones in and listen to Stephanie’s stories…it helps drown out all the commotion and noise going on in my house and in my head.
Same, at least so far as being a mom who has ADD (only 1 kiddo, but also, am a single mom)- Stephanie’s videos give me the perfect thing to bribe myself with, for simultaneous reinforcement (where you get the reward at the same time while you’re doing the thing)
Relatable! I listen all day while working and stuff.
When you said that the friends and neighbors have no idea what they're talking about, I could've clapped. Abusers never show their true colors to anyone outside of the relationship if they can help it.
amen to this
I definitely agree, but for law enforcement and for social workers (if kids are involved), you have to ask people outside the relationship to determine who the primary aggressor is, especially in a case like this where it's not as obvious. But most of the time, interviewing the parties will reveal who is the primary aggressor and who the reactive victim is. However, in this case, one of the parties is dead.
As a young man myself, I always appreciate Stephanie's wisdom. Her take on things is what keeps me coming back, because honestly I learn a lot about life from her opinions and past experiences. Thanks Stephanie, keep doing you!
I appreciate how steffanie normalizes voicing her own abuses history - showing those in an abusive relationship that it is OK to talk about it, there is help and there is happiness to be found once you get out and get safe! Thank you Steffanie. It took me so many years to say “I was a Victim and now I’m out and I’m ok”. That “victim”’word was hard for me, I guess it made me feel weak and/or like no one would believe me. But I wasn’t weak
So sad that a culture of victim blaming and shaming conditions us to feel more contempt for the notion of victim than abuser
Good job, girl. Proud of you!
Of course it isn't weak, you have to be incredibly strong to survive abuse but we live in a society with a CULTure where it seems the worst you can be is a victim and it is portrayed as being weak, vulnerable and even passive.
There's something profoundly wrong and disturbing when there's more contempt for being a victim than being an abuser.
When you were talking about how the police officers must find it difficult to go to the same people time and time again and see that they are continuing to engage in those behaviours and it made me think of a story of when I called the police on my abuser and that night a police officer drove me back to my apartment and just a few months earlier there had been an incident where a woman in our community was killed by her husband he went into the home and used a baseball bat to start beating and attacking her the children ran out of the house and started running down the street screaming help my dad is killing my mom. The officer who drove me home asked me if I remembered that case and I said yes and he said to me I have to say this to you I have to tell you that I went to that house so many times and it eats me up to know that she’s now dead and I ask myself what more could I have done and the only thing more I could’ve done is talk to her person to person so I’m talking to you right now because I don’t wanna come back here in a few months and I certainly don’t wanna come back here to find you’ve been murdered. Really shook me up. That same cop sat with me during the entire trial and would walk me to my car after the court proceedings
These days when all we seem to hear about the police is negative your experience with a policeman who went out of his way to warn you and then stand by you throughout the process warms my heart and gives me hope. Thank you so much for sharing this, and congratulations on getting out of a terrible situations. Wishing you blessings and joy.
I'm certainly grateful for that officer ❤️
Wow. That’s a powerful testimony. Thanks so much for sharing!
@@TheIckpa I came to comment the exact same thing!
Wow. So rare to see a good cop like that.
I’m a family law independent paralegal and I’ve had numerous male victims of DV. It’s more common than you would imagine but men have more shame and denial about being victims based on my experience and are reluctant to let anyone know they are victims, DV comes in all shapes, sizes and sexes
100 percent
Absolutely. It's a shame that in our efforts to (rightly) empower women to speak up about their abuse, we sometimes forget that we should believe *all* victims, regardless of sex. I'm glad awareness seems to be spreading, though, as unfortunate as examples like this case are.
Thank you!
I've known couples who physically fought and I mean blood and black eyes. They're still married some 45 years later. There is a genuine lack, no there is no help for the poor and working classes just police and prison.
The worst part is that men heavily judge one another for being a "pansy" if they try to speak up about it. Their friends who they should be able to go to, mock them for doing so.
I was at an event where a young man told a descriptive story in which he was aggressively abused, behind closed doors by his petite young girlfriend. You could sense his hurt, but also his apprehension in speaking his truth. The number of men in the audience, young and old, openly making negative remarks or giggling was appalling.
That girl had a massive temper and you can tell by the way she acted banging the screen on the elevator and repeating hitting him. If he were abusive and violent he would not have allowed that! Most women who are abused wouldn't antagonize their abuser. I think he did or said something to piss her off and she stabbed him out of anger.
I disagree w the part he couldnt be violent back. Plenty of men say "do it while u can, act out while u can"..and pay for it behind closed doors. I think they both were.
@@AmRose-pr4wn Yes and he also knew that there was a camera in the lift so he wouldn't want to be seen hurting her if he was in fact violent to her.
@@susanwaldron6831 if he knew there was a camera didn't she know that too?
@@britnysnyder4991 I'm sure she knew but at that moment I don't think she cared.
@@susanwaldron6831 well don't that go both ways then? If he was actually abusive, I'm sure he wouldn't have cared either.
I grew up with this guy. He's known my family from the time he was in kindergarten. He's not violent at ALL. not aggressive at ALL. He had a crush on my sister for years, they were friends for over 20. None of us ever saw anything like that from him. He was truly a sweet guy.
Her, on the other hand... she has a history of abusing her partners. It's literally on video and her past abuse is documented. They can't let her get away with this.
I believe she did it.
Can we possibly talk about Riley Whitelaw? She was 17 years old who was harassed by a coworker, and expressed to a manager she wasn’t comfortable with said coworker. Then she was murdered on her lunch break. In Colorado Springs. It was next to my workplace I saw the after effects. This one really shook my community
Oh no, that's absolutely horrific!
What does that have to do with the case? Just asking.
@@Stephanie-hi7kq oh let me get this straight, when talking about scary situations we can learn from, we’re not allowed to ask her to cover other cases? No. Bringing awareness to other situations is what Stephanie Harlowe is known for. The fact you want to knit pick my comment is sad. Let’s just be so laser focused on one case rather than look at all fucked up situations. Besides, I’ve asked Stephanie to cover cases in the past that she has done. Your comment is redundant to me. It was a case suggestion. Are you going to comment this under all her suggestions in comments? Because I’ve seen a lot of them on many other stories she’s covered too.
This is terrifying! Something told me to ride past my (typically very responsible) 17 year old daughter’s job on my way home one night. It was about 10:00pm and the store was closed. I saw her sitting up against her male manager, outside the building, shoulder to shoulder, watching TikTok’s…. In the pitch black!! 😑 He’s a bit older than her. Nothing crazy but over 18 and nothing about it sat right with me.
I would love the details on a case like this so I can have a more productive discussion about the risks of inappropriate relationships at work, going with your gut, being as safe as possible, etc.
RIP to that poor young girl. I can’t imagine the family’s pain or the shock to the community. It is very unsettling! 😔
That was a dreadful case, and those business owners should be held partially responsible for what happened for sure.
I've commented a lot but I wanna say: if you have something that is provably yours (id, wallet, pictures, you have a receipt or registration) at your ex's place and you don't feel safe going in or they won't LET you in, you can ask the police for a civil standby. I realize that some may feel even less safe around the police and don't want them involved, but if you'd feel safer with the police there, a civil standby is literally part of their job.
good tip, thank you!!!
I was married to my abuser for 7.5 years the house we bought was from my family and part of my inheritance, I did not have a job so the financing was done in his name, my name was not on the home loan at all. When I left he threatened me if I was to return. I called the cops to try and get my things they told me no because I was not on the home title. I had lived there the entire time and had to leave all of my belongings and my children's belongings until the divorce was final and there was a list of items I could get from the home. I could only take what was on that list. So even with requesting a civil standby does not mean you can get your items. I was not safe to ever return to that home with a civil standby or not. It is hard but sometimes you have to cut your loss and walk away.
@@jessileekelly7375 I am so sorry to hear that. That's completely ridiculous and I'm sorry you were failed by the system. I didn't realize that it like that in other places. I live in Texas in a small town and my friend is a police dispatcher and told me about it when my brother was separating from his wife and I didn't feel he was safe. I'm glad you're away from that.
@@jessileekelly7375 so sorry that happened to you... and all other victims who get abused by their partners and system over and over 😢
Asked for a civil standby once back when I still had a shred of respect left for US police departments, to get furniture back from an ex that had literally beat the shit out of both me and my puppy… cops acted annoyed like we were wasting their time, even though we called in advance, they were rushing us the whole time, although I asked them to stay out of plain view they left halfway through me getting my things and OPENLY DROVE PAST US even giving me a “thumbs up” out the patrol car window like “well looks like everything is ok so I’m gonna go now!” The ex ended up getting more pissed at me that I had called a cop. From personal experience at least in America, the cops usually don’t do shit to actually help you in situations like that LOL they’re trained to do bare minimum for their jobs and then go home
Courtney was probably on the phone with her mom to get their story straight, that is my first thought. "Mom, what do i do? I lost control and stabbed him, i cant go to jail for life"
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My thoughts exactly!
I think so too
Yup. Absolutely!! I have never for a second thought that the conversation was anything less
This or she called her mom for an “alibi” cause she was planning to stab him when he came back
It takes a very self-aware person to acknowledge and admit their biases, and that's why I respect you so much! Just a few minutes in but so grateful for another episode to listen to while I work away on this Friday morning.
Oh my goodness, thank you for covering this case! I went to high school with him. Though, we went to a large high school and I wasn’t friends with him, I always remember him being so kind to those around him! Such a heartbreaking case!
Say it with me…. MEN CAN BE ABUSED TOO. This is all the “proof” anyone should need. I will keep this brief, but anyone with common sense can see this man was killed in cold blood out of anger and this was in no way self defense. I hope she serves life in prison. Wishing his family peace.
I can't even believe how many comments I'm seeing of people defending her, like WTF? The comment right above yours, some girl is trying to say that in the elevator she only started hitting him because he was chasing her into the elevator and she snapped. Followed by another comment about how he would've been hitting her if the camera wasn't there (no answer as to why she was okay with hitting him though). I guarantee theses are the same kind of people who think that Amber Heard wasn't the the abuser either.
I am surprised though because usually subscribers on Stephanie's channel are on the right side of things, but they seem to be missing the mark here and it's sad
I as a women believe it happens just as much if not more than it happens to women. My brothers, cousins and guy friends have all been hit/stalked and threatened by women at one point, yet not once did any of them call the police. They all said (when asked why they didn't report it), shes half my size, I’d get laughed out of station.
@@nonenamed1511 thank you for bringing that up. As someone who's been there, it's also hard in a lot of places, like where I live, to go to the authorities. One is the fear that they'll turn the tables on you and the man will be the one in cuffs. Also, the one time I called the cops while locked in the bathroom while she was outside with a knife, they said they wouldn't send anyone unless I was injured. It's hard to report to people who automatically assume the man is guilty or who don't take the situation seriously.
@@nonenamed1511 I agree, I don’t think I know one man in my life who hasn’t had a slap or some sort of assault off a woman where as I know a lot of women who have never been abused, myself included. Also domestic violence is a huge problem in a lot of lesbian relationships but that rarely gets talked about
That poor man deserved so much better
Throwing a knife and having it land into someone, point first, is way harder than most people think it is. Not to mention the amount of force required if she did happen to throw it perfectly. What’s the point of lying about that if it was self defense?
For sure! Its takes alot of practice to actuallu be able to land that shot. Shes lying and karma will prevail.
Exactly 😒🧐
My ex threw a knife at me and it landed rt below my butt, went in about 2 inches. Probably very rare but can happen
@@llanes6287 Gosh, so sorry that happened… Sounds surreal
@@llanes6287 that sounds awful and painful and I'm sorry thar happened to you. I think there are also more factors in this that the OP is trying to get at. Christian was a huge man and it would have been even harder for the knife to get that deep in his chest via throwing. He would have muscle and ribs protecting the area and she would have had to throw it really hard on top of having a perfect throw for it to land like that. Since she's not a professional or trained in knife throwing, so it would be nearly impossible. My dad liked to do knife throwing as a hobby growing up and I'm not sure he would be able to land a hit like that.
Everything about this case makes my blood boil, if the shoe was on the other foot and Christian had done this to her, THIS would be a completely different conversation. Him being let out on bail like her ? FORGET about it ! It’s sick how people find it hard to believe men can’t be victims and that most articles zoom in on her social media status. A murderer is a murderer, doesn’t matter how pretty you try to dress it up.
So true!
Agreed,she literally said throwing plates and glasses at him was a regular thing no big deal, what if that was the boyfriend
So when would self defense apply in your opinion? How would you change the law? No bail for anyone who is charged with 1st or 2nd degree murder? What criteria should exist for bail, besides the money?
@@oc2538 from everything in the press at the moment I don’t see any self defence here, she seems unhinged. I don’t think she should have got bail at all till the trail she’s a danger to others.
Sadly most won't believe it, until it's their son abused!!!
I know what your talking about Stephanie.. I’m leaving Friday. Staying isn’t healthy and it’s best I leave for myself and my daughter! I love you Stephanie, thanks for all you do!
I left a toxic relationship a couple of years ago and it was one the most difficult decision i ever made - despite everything, i loved that person very much. No regrets. It was the right decision. Stay strong.
stay strong! you can do this 💜
Please be careful. It is the most dangerous time in a victims relationship with an abuser.
good luck and best wishes! you are an incredibly brave woman who deserves the best life has to offer.
so incredibly proud of you ❤️ stay strong!!!! you’re doing an amazing thing for you and your daughter even if it’s scary right now
I just have to say that Stephanie's random fascination with that damn tiger painting is exactly the kind of reason why I love her content so much lol. She focuses on these things that I'd personally focus on, even if nobody else really would. I just got done watching her TV length - and TV quality - literal mini series on Bonnie and Clyde, and her wondering about the well-being of the different animals throughout the series (along with her regularly referring to Clyde as a "baby dumbbell") is why she's my favorite
I was hoping you did this video! When I first saw the timeline my fist thought was that she stabbed him between the time he arrived w the sandwiches and then called her mom to tell her what she had just done. Notice that she spoke to her mom a few minutes. Hung up and called her again only speaking I think 7 minutes. Then she called 911 later. Regarding the elevator if he was the abuser he would’ve clocked her one good time and be done with it. But he doesn’t and it’s obvious he’s trying to block her from hitting him. I know an abusive man when I see one. I was in a toxic relationship with one for almost 10 years unfortunately. Great video!!! Can’t wait for an update.
I love love love how on the video title you used the victims name and not the accused murderers name. As it often is the case. Let’s not give her more recognition, and instead keep the victims name alive.
Thank you for that steph
Unfortunately, this looks like she got very violent & out of control when drinking. Her history of drinking & doing out of control acts goes back legally so her record will hurt any "self-defense" claim. He thought he could handle her due to size differences but it only took 1 perfectly placed jab (even though I don't think she aimed to kill-just angry & hit spot dead-on out of dumb luck).
You don’t think she aimed to kill but stabbed him in the chest? Not the leg or arm but the chest?
@@nelliejones2809 maybe she wanted to go for the arm or shoulder, who knows. We dont 🤷🏼♀️
@@Jillberto she did what she did. So maybe this and maybe that is irrelevant.
How many couples get in arguments everyday and no one gets stabbed. Shes entitled, I'd love to see her get the death penalty. Who cares if she was drunk. Again people get drunk and fight constantly and it doesn't end in murder. This man died and she stabbed him and that is the facts. No one was at risk of dying but him.
@@natsohigh5552 I didnt mean to excuse that her actions took another life! Thats horrible. I just wanted to give a explanation to the other person.
A lot of people believe she stabbed him between 4:33 when he got there and 4:43 when she called her mom, and that he was laying there bleeding for 13 minutes while she got her story together with her mom, before she called 911..
Thank you for this, Stephanie. The way you talked about abusive relationships, the onlyfans stuff, and repetitive arguments has made me feel so understood, seen, and validated. Just.... thank you.
I like what you said about how hard it must be for police officers to respond over and over and not be able to do anything about it. My ex was arrested many times for domestic abuse and for some dumb reason, I kept taking him back. I was 17 when I started dating him and he was 21. I gave birth to our daughter when I was 19 and I'll be damned if my daughter ever dates anyone who is 21 when she's 17. But anyway, I finally made it out of that abusive relationship. 11 years later, I am now married with 3 more beautiful children. I was at a local music festival a couple summers ago and an officer that had responded to many of my calls (and put my ex behind bars many times) came up to me, gave me a hug and told me he was happy to see me happy and that I seemed to be in a much better place. I'll never forget that moment.
You cover these cases with such delicacy and careful consideration - and this one was no exception. Very well done.
Feature her and Derek somehow!
Agreed
i couldn't have said it better 👏
love to see sponsors showing support!
@@DianaRebeca1 I'd watch that for sure😭
IMO She was raised getting eveything she wanted and no consequences for her actions and there spawns an adult that thinks this is how the world works. She can throw temper tantrums and She will get everything her way. The world owes her anything she wants and its her way or here comes temper tantrum. It shows how she was brought up.
Totally 👍🏼
Explained perfectly
Total narcissist.
200%
Still to this day she is being spoiled and taken care of by her parents. She called her Mom after she murdered Christian then her Dad took her out to a bar 5 days after the murder. So disgusting. RIP Christian and I pray justice is served! She knew she was toxic and controlling, she is also manipulative.
I guess maybe the benefit of her being semi-famous is that this case will actually see a courtroom. If she was less known, it wasn't "clickbait," etc., this case may have never caught the attention of the media and eventually pressure law enforcement to investigate further. I won't make a judgment until we know all the facts, but at the very least, this needs to be looked into more. I read an interview with his mother. It was heart breaking. She's a nurse, and apparently she had no idea he had died until she received a call from donor services during a shift at work. How incredibly traumatic to be notified in that way smh. It's like they didn't even care enough to inform her.
Really, I have no clue who this person is...
I also haven't had of this case thank you stephanie
Wow that is so awful. 😭💔 our justice system isn't just broken its shattered and on fire. Every stage of it.
Yeah, Annie from 10 to Life covered this case aswell. And she said there that the mother didnt knew until the donor services called and even they where confused that nobody informed the mother. How cruel..
I have never heard of her. I don't keep up on the only fans chicks.
To add to making sure your name is on a lease/mortgage - this also applies if that person passes away. I lived with my boyfriend for two years but when he passed my name wasn't on anything so I had no say in what happened to the condo we shared. His death was sudden so the trauma of losing him was made even more horrendous by losing my home as well. Making sure your name is on a lease protects you from the worst that can happen, not just a relationship souring! Protect yourself and stay safe
My best friend works in the title business and she told me this years ago. For the exact reason you mentioned. She said there were so many times this has happened and it’s sad. Not only are you grieving for your loved one, adding the stress of losing your home on top of it is absolutely horrible. I had never thought about it before. It’s things you don’t want to think about, but it happens every single day. Especially if you buy a home with someone, always always make sure your name is on the deed.
the audio of an altercation before his death has just been released by tmz and it’s actually so sad hearing how distressed he was trying to talk to her😭
My brother and I both were DV victims in our respective relationships. Mine was very “behind closed doors” but his girlfriend was open in her abuse and people STILL didn’t take him seriously. I haven’t talked to my brother since I was maybe 20, and I’m 30 now. I really think that what he went through and the fact that no one seemed to care contributed to his mental decline. All DV is horrible, but I have a little extra empathy for male victims just based on what I’ve seen.
And what were you doing while your brother was being beaten up? Maybe call him and apologise for that.
The longer you don't connect the harder it is to reconnect. Some people have to disconnect for their own mental health not for anger or revenge.
@@dannyjames9239 well I was 12 so
@@daisyjohnson5368 unfortunately he’s off social media, was out of state last time I heard, and has gone through a phone number change at least once. Neither of us have spoken to our dad in years as far as I know and we have different moms. He’s not an easy person to find unfortunately. I still have hope though.
@@dannyjames9239 what the fuck is your problem? This is such a disgusting thing to say to someone. You have no idea what their situation was like and it's gross and cruel for you to assume. You should be ashamed of yourself
This doesn't sound like self-defense to me, I think it was 2nd degree. But Florida juries often surprise me and not in a good way ie. Casey Anthony.
George Zimmerman also springs to mind. 😖😠👿😡😤🤬
I watched Casey Anthony's trial and I knew she was going to walk because the prosecution did no justice for Caylee. The jury can only decide based on the facts they are shown and I would have made the same call they did. I didn't watch Zimmerman's case so I can not say. I do hope prosecutors get justice for Christian and his family.
I was waiting for you to make this point! In relationships when one party makes A LOT MORE MONEY than the other, abuse is more likely to happen. That was my experience too. MY experience. DON’T COME FOR ME!
That’s facts!
Agree! And when the other partner is used to living a certain way but can’t afford it on their own, they have a hard time leaving.
It puts a lot of stress on a relationship. Although it's not always the one that makes more money who is the abuser. For some if they are less financially in control abusing their partner would make the abuser feel more in control of their relationship. Dynamics in a dv relationship are so varied and complex.
I think this applies to any power differential. Race, age, socioeconomic status differences, attractiveness difference can also increase the risk. However, ultimately it depends on the 2 people involved and how they choose to respect and treat themselves and each other.
I detect no lies
My name is Stephanie Corrigan and I am from the United States- Massachusetts, to be exact. I have been watching your content for quite some time and I have been very impressed with the amount of research and care you give each case. I was reaching out to hopefully get some attention for an unsolved missing person case that I recently found out about.
My partner's aunt told us about her son's ex girlfriend Saniyya Dennis, a Buffalo State student who allegedly jumped off Niagara Falls to commit suicide a while back. However, there are many inconsistencies in the case, and the suicide theory doesn't add up, especially not to her family. the aunt told us there is a lot of human trafficking's in the area she disappeared from, which seems more likely than a suicide. If it was a suicide, her body should have washed up by now, as bodies from more recent jumps have appeared.
It would be great to get more coverage in the case and to find out what happened to her!
Thank you for your time!
Love you Stephanie! 😊💖 You are the best!
The only thing I will say is about Stephanie claiming “there is no way he would attack her while she was on the phone with her mom”
Unfortunately I personally was a victim of domestic abuse, and my abuser attacked me while I was on the phone with my mom. He took my phone from my hand, told my mom I would call her back and then tossed my phone across the room. My mom hear the attack happening because he did not hang up the phone, and she called the police.
yeah a lot of people have been popping in with their own stories of this.. I am shocked it's so common. You would think that the logical part of your brain would say "hey this isn't a good idea", but I guess anger overrides a lot of that
@@StephanieHarlowe I am just honored and in shock that you replied to me!
@@chellsiestevens1126 Yes this is such a good point. Same happened to my older sister in a DV relationship my mother called her and her boyfriend assumed she had called my mother for help so attacked her while she was on the phone and my mother was forced to listen to her being beaten up until one of them hung the phone up probably him. Although obviously in this case I believe Courtney was the aggressor and she deserves life in prison for cold blooded murder.
My abuser beat the hell out of my while i was driving and my grandmother was driving behind us. Luckily her and a woman in a minivan called the police. Sometimes they just dont care what family sees and hears.
@@StephanieHarlowe you would think. And I do think a lot of abusers can control it in public/in front of family but I guess there's a portion that just abuse no matter who's watching. My ex also def had impulse control issues.
Stephanie, you are one of my favorite RUclipsrs. It makes me so happy to wake up and see a video up. Have a wonderful day!
I hope you have a wonderful day, too!
I think the fact that she did not call the police right after makes her look guilty imo
Yes, if I accidentally stabbed someone or had to defend myself, I’d call 911 immediately.
As much as we think we know how one should act in a certain situation, once put in the situation yourself, there’s no telling what you would do.
Yes she lost precious time🥺😥
@@pussymonster6707 We can see how other people in that same situation have reacted though, then use that to gauge whether it indicates guilty behaviour.
And that she lied about how she stabbed him
I’m glad you talked about how people may behave differently following grief or trauma. When my mother died (at the hospital), one evening, I was home alone with a toddler, my husband was away on business. I literally got dressed the next morning and took my kid to Kindermusik because I *seriously* didn’t know what else to do with myself. I had already been awake all night crying. The thought of sitting alone in my empty (except for my baby) house was unbearable. I tried to get my dad to come to me from the hospital, but he wouldn’t. He was a wreck too, of course. I wanted to be together, but that’s not what he needed.
So the best thing I could do was try to distract myself. Fortunately, I’m not a minor celebrity, so no one filmed me with their phone at Kindermusik and then used it to shame me for a social media blast and tell the world it meant I didn’t care about my mother. It will be 20 years this November, and I’m still heartbroken and miss her.
Courtney may have done many things wrong, but I just can’t trash talk her for sitting in a bar talking to her dad
Yeah tbh I just figured she wanted to get out of the apartment. Can't say I blame her, whether she killed him intentionally or in self defense or whatever, it makes sense she doesn't want to stay in the apartment where she killed her boyfriend. It could've been her dad that said to meet her at the bar and she just went along with it, not really thinking what might happen if someone recognized her.
I believe she stabbed him because she was angry and abusive and her anger and abuse finally went to far. I also think the real self defense was the very few times people claim to see him abuse her. There are numerous videos and eye witnesses statements of her abusing him and then some guy says I saw him hit her but what happened before that, was she attacking him and then he finally pushed and hit her back. It’s my opinion she was what some people call a mean drunk.
This video hit kind of hard today, we found out on Sunday that a man my husband deployed with and was still friends with died, this morning we found out it was because his girlfriend ran him over with her car... we are still waiting for more information to be released.
Wow. I'm so sorry. That is horrific!
Was this in Oregon? We just had a case over the weekend in Salem where a woman ran over her ex multiple times, killing him. So horrible and sad.
My condolences to you and your husband 🙏
@@sadeeb7664 no, in Maryland near Washington DC.
I was in an abusive relationship with my daughters father and no one in his family would EVER believe he put his hands on me. You really never know
Girl, same! My son's biological father was a monster. I begged his family for help for months on end. Nothing. Finally, I ended up in the ER and they called the police, who then convinced me that a protective order was necessary. I was terrified, but knew they were right. He went to jail, and all that chaos. His family immediately proceeded to attack me in full force. They called CPS with false reports multiple timed, APS with false reports( I lived with my elderly father at the time), they posted malicious lies online.. You name it. My point is that even when they did know, they still defended and denied and were just terrible all around.
I hope things have gotten better for you and your daughter. It takes a lot to move on from such trauma.
When this first happened
They interviewed a neighbor who said he had seen him punch her in the parking lot of the complex
@@maryace818 I saw that interview.
I love the way you research and present these cases. I've been subscribed to you for sooo long! There was a young mother missing for about a month in the town I live in and her body was recently discovered about 2 weeks ago. They ruled it suicide but she was found in a wooded area behind a home and the ppl of the home were detained and released. I'm so curious to know way of suicide, how long was she deceased before they found her body etc. If you have time would u please look into it? Taylor Haynes, Morgan County Alabama.
I knew you were talking about Taylor as soon as I read "found in a wooded area." Such a sad case. I don't believe it was suicide. 💔
This sounds like my oldest son and his ex wife's relationship. She has bipolar and BPD. She was abusive to him, but if you were just her friend or family they will believe her and think my son is the bad guy. She even left and abandoned their son with my son when he was 2. She used to get in his face and hit him trying to get him to react, then call the cops. She never, ever had a mark on her. Stupid thing is she would actually tell the cops she was the one doing it and they never did anything. So, so glad my son got away from her.
I agree and I think that Christian didn't see the danger he was in and get the Hell out of Dodge. Relationships and the living arrangements are complicated--but I don't think there was any way that she would have changed. She seemed to be a spoiled entitled brat that always got her way throughout her life. She let the situation get out of control instead of dealing with her anger issues and alcoholism. Had she called 911 instead of her mom maybe there could have been the slightest chance that he could have survived.
Good to hear that your son got away from his abusive ex. It's unusual to hear about a mom leaving her 2 yr old baby. It says a lot about her. It sounds like your grandchild was spared as well. I hope that you are all doing well !!
Thank you for calling out the subscribers on OnlyFans as creepy. I don't judge content creators because sometimes ppl are desperate (it's tough out here). But I'm tired of acting like these creeps are normal.
Okay Steph, you look fricking incredible.
Just had to say it.
Thank you for all of your hard work on these cases 💗
Awwww thank you so much!
@@StephanieHarlowe I second that you look incredible! I’m loving your hair lately! Would love to know what type of curling iron you use!
She always looks so iconic- pantene queen's hair is always LAID 🤩🥰😍
I'm sorry. As someone who was in an abusive relationship the LAST thing I would have ever done is attack him for fear of being beaten up. I walked on egg shells all the time.
As someone who was in a violent and abusive relationship I would absolutely lash out when cornered to try and create distance and escape being trapped. Same thing happens with all animals when the fight or flight response is triggered and you have no option to flee. That's why fearful dogs bite.
I agree, however at times when it was me backed into a corner I occasionally lashed out to get him away from me.
I got to the point where I didn't care anymore and attacked back 🤷
We have two videos of them and in both, she is trying to get away. As others are pointing out, she was trapped in the lift with him and likely lashing out.
@@kdaveson In the elevator one he is laughing at some parts 😕 Maybe he liked to provoke her?
Re: throwing things off balconies. I live in a condo, and one time my neighbor and his gf were having a fight. She started throwing his stuff off the balcony, including his TV. Then she pulled the fire alarm and ran away. Never underestimate how bananas some people are. lol
Truth! Even worse, when I lived on the 19th floor for a few years my neighbours son was high and trying to push his mom off the balcony. 😩😩
@@joanna0988 oh, no :(
@@joanna0988 oh no 🙄🥺😯So I hope it never happened.
@@angelinalah I called the police, the son was taken away and a social worker came to talk to me about what I witnessed. I can't imagine going through that with one of my kids 😕
@@jackychamber534 Yes it was horrible. The mom is ok I don't know what happened to her son but he was taken away.
You hit the nail on the head Stephanie! No one on the outside knows the relationship dynamic behind closed doors. My former abuser was really good at making me look like the psycho and him the victim. It was disgusting.
Absolutely same. The only witnesses I had were our neighbours who heard me screaming, but because we were living in his father's house (without his father) they went to him, and of course he told them everything was fine... now we're in court. What a mess. I'm so sorry you had to go through something like what I escaped this year, but I am glad you made it out.
I don’t know. I was involved in a domestically violent relationship. My ex was the aggressor. I never once hurt him…because I never once dared. I knew he would kill me if I ever laid a hand on him. The video of the way she was in the elevator speaks volumes to me. It shows a lack of fear. Maybe they abused each other and it ended with her stabbing him in a crazed moment that she couldn’t take back. Somehow I doubt he tried to kill her and it was “defense”
Im sorry you went through that i know how u feel ❤
I was in a abusive relationship also with a man who was the aggressor but I fought back every case different
I totally agree with you. I do not think this was self defence, she clearly has an an anger management problem. Even if they were both guilty of domestic violence , in my opinion she totally lost control, i do not believe he was trying to kill her or that the fight in that day was even serious enough for her to reach for a knife.
Her behaviour clearly had been escalating for quite a while and that makes her quite dangerous.
Sounds like bpd maybe, exacerbated by alcohol. This woman was unstable and it's sad that she had so much wealth, nothing to worry about, yet she still couldn't be happy. If I made that kind of money, I would be kissing the ground every day I woke up. It's really sad
Sounds you've been there with them all along.
I was biased as well until my son turned 20 and became in an abusive relationship and she was the aggressor. No one believed him but I did. Like females u have to form a plan. U have to have proof and thankfully Johnny Depp gave my son the courage to admit and go through with forming his plan. what or secretly get it all on video. So when your son is at an age when he is dating and maybe she is abusive u will definitely throw biased out the window.
PleSe dont cite johnny depp.
Its a really bad example
@@HumanimalChannel um no its really not. Hes not an angel but was definitely by evidence a victim of DV.
@@HumanimalChannel his case gave this person's son the courage to open up about his own abuse and change his situation. It is not citing Johnny Depp per se. This is his actual story.
@@HumanimalChannel if it helped him then it’s helpful 🤷♀️ it’s not up to you where they get their strength to leave or speak out
@@HumanimalChannel Johnny Depps case motivated a lot of men coming forward and talking about their own experience.
Coffee made, and now ready to watch this episode
It’s almost a routine at this point!!
Dear Stephanie. you are really wonderful. 🥰No one from the True Crime community tackles the subject in such a depth. It's not just crime and history, but a lot of psychology. 🙏Thanks for all the effort. 🙏With admiration I send you one big hug 😀from a small country in Europe - Slovenia.
I just can’t get past the fact that she called her mother first, yes she could have panicked and wanted advice but if he could be heard and that’s nearly 13 minutes after then he could have saved. That and the ongoing physical abuse that’s supported with video evidence, it’s very aggressive and he only responds defensively. As it stands it would be a failure of justice if she walks, will be interesting to see if anything else comes out at trial but seems like the only things supporting her narrative are well paid people that can write nice statements and her mother. Who she definitely had time to call and get her story straight.
So glad you’re covering this, before even watching I’ll say I’ve been following the case, I definitely believe she purposely stabbed him and not because she was in a life or death situation but because she was an angry drunk.
I even wondered if it was for only fans...arguments etc who knows maybe people wanted to see them fight too...just a creepy thought.
Thank you for keeping me company. Taking care of my geriatric parents full time takes everything I've got & your work is a well thought out respite.
I just have to take a moment to thank you Stephanie, for being so prolific with your excellent content. Your hard work is MUCH appreciated!
"If she did roll out of bed like that, she is a very blessed woman." 😂 *No joke.*
I’ve been watching you since I was pregnant with my daughter, and she’s about to turn three. I so appreciate all your hard work and all your amazing research and content. Thank you so much for four years!!
Thank you for acknowledging that men can be domestic abuse victims too. My dad was for years. I witnessed from birth until age 11. Won't go into detail but he wouldn't even put his hands up to block the blows. A lot of people wont even acknowledge it.
I cant remember the lawyers exact words but they were along the lines of, he was the worst kind of abuser. She wants people to think she was afraid for her life so my question is this. How many people who're afraid for their lives repeatedly punch the person they're afraid in the face? Wouldn't she not want to set the abuser off?
I'm not saying in this situation you are wrong, however reactive abuse is a thing. Victims get angry/ frustrated and will lash out at their abusers verbally or physically. Think Gabby Petito. When the cops questioned Gabby she was saying she was screaming at him and hitting him... but we wouldn't classify Gabby as the abuser.
People have a very hard time accepting that and that a woman would lie or be the aggressor
In both videos she's trying to get away from him, and in the lift she is frantically tapping the lift panel to get away. He follows her in and traps her, and she reacts like many trapped animals do. She lashes out.
@@kdaveson people see what they wanna see or whats most comfortable for them while Ibdont believe she was a sadistic abuser what you've just described is a stretch.
@@kdaveson He didn't trap her in that elevator. That was all her attacking him as he did nothing but try to block and lightly push her away. Sorry but a fearful person doesn't just wildly attack the person they're supposedly afraid of
Can I just say I died laughing when you said “Creepy Guy is your aesthetic” 🤣🤣 I don’t have an opinion either way but that line had me rolling!!
I’m glad you did a a video on this case. I felt like I knew almost nothing since it happened and you’ve really given us way more info! Thank you Stephanie🤍
"I throw glasses all the time"..yeah, like thats normal 😳btw youre glowing in this video Steph: the top, the hair, the makeup altogether 😊
"It's not abuse when I do it. I do it all the time." Classic abuser mentality. I bet she considers him trying to stop her from physically abusing him as him physically abusing her. Amber Heard tried to use that in her libel trial and truly believed it. She said Depp holding her wrists or trying to push him off her when she was physically attacking him was abusive behavior.
The thing that gets me when it comes to these type of relationships is that the vast majority will say that Christian couldn't be the victim bc he is bigger, physically stronger, and therefore more powerful. There's so many more variables that go into ipv relationships.
I don't disagree, but Stephanie's point about financial control was also interesting as I've encountered the exact opposite.
I was the higher earner but my abuser made me feel inadequate for not earning far more than he did. He tapped right into my imposter syndrome and weaponised that against me - that even though I made more than him, I was still worth nothing.
I can absolutely see that also being the case here, if some of the other opinions about sex work are anything to go by.
I was a sex worker for 5 years in my 20s and the best way I’ve ever described how it feels is “allowing yourself to be raped for compensation”. There are exceptions to everything of course, but even cam girls feel this way. To the men out there watching these women, just because they are good actresses and “play thru” the emotional pain your attention causes, and look like they are enjoying the attention, in her head she’s somewhere and someone else. She needs the money. You can’t survive in this world without atleast 3k per month.
I'm so sorry you had to go through this, and I hope you're in a better situation now!
I always hear this from friends who are exited. It breaks my heart. Bottom line, when money is involved there is no consent
You're voice should be heard! Too many young girls find this life style glamorous. Those fcking apps are not helping 😒 they're putting their physical and mental health at risk everyday and some don't see it until it's too late.
Honestly this is the result of a person that gets abused for reward. It's only a matter of time before sex workers have a break, turn to drugs, commit acts of violence, or self harm. No one can mentally handle that without hitting the self destruct button.
@@amberguillen2024 Sorry but I have to call bullshit there. Experiences of sex workers varies greatly, so these sweeping stereotypes aren't helpful. Many people who choose to be in and stay in the industry enjoy what they do.
Just finished listening to Crime Weekly, and I just woke my 3 yr old up screaming "Yes!" When I was notified you posted.
Please disconnect your childbot from the matrix ans venture into sunlight immediately. Rinse. Repeat.
If her X-rated content was posted the day after Christian’s death, it was likely scheduled, due to her being Baker acted immediately following the event. Usually, that consists of a 48 hour hold, with no electronics.
Yep and I think it was mentioned she was held for 72 hours
It's 72 hours in my state. 15:30 it states this.
Defense: "he would abuser her when no one was around."
Video taken in an elevator with no one else: *her actively hitting him and him trying to block her*
EtA because certain people are making assumptions and assigning meaning that isn't here: I'm not saying Christian didn't hit her at any point in their relationship. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the defense claiming that he beat her when no one was around when there is video footage of her doing that to him. I don't know what he did/if he did anything to her. It's just an observation.
I'm wondering if anyone ever saw her with bruises or if she ever posted photos or videos where she had bruises or where she had areas of her body obviously covered with makeup.
I'm guessing not. If she was always the aggressor towards him, there probably wouldn't be many physical signs on his body. But he was a big, well built dude. If he turned it around, there's a good chance she would have had marks.
It looked to me she wanted to leave, hence hitting the elevators panel. He followed her into that elevator just because he could. I believe there was a fight prior to what was shown. He knew what he was doing following her into the only way to escape. I've been there done that. When a person leaves their own home to get away from a person who won't stop their shit though, you've asked them many times probably screaming to just leave her alone. It becomes frustrating as a mf. So you just leave your home. They follow. You get really tired of this, and the anger rises you lash out, taking out your pent-up aggravation over a fucking person who won't listen and stay away from you.
I know myself. When I'm put in a situation where I'm not comfortable and I ask them to leave me alone, and they won't, and my anger is building because they won't stop harassing you. The past shows that this behavior will lead to a huge fight, and you're trying to avoid that pattern that is an established pattern. You choose to leave your own home rather than deal with yet another fucking useless argument. That person knows what they are doing, and they continue to harass you as you're leaving in an elevator that you have to use to get outside. Well, then the frustration finally bursts and you whoop their ass. The very thing you were trying to avoid and would have avoided if they would of left you alone or not follow you while you are trying to leave. I am mentally ill and have anger issues that I can control. Unless you ask and ask a person to leave you alone. To go back to their home. To please leave you don't have to go home but you do need to leave mine. I can totally see that is what happened here. If you have never been in a situation like this with all the same factors you should keep your mouth shut because you just sound stupid.
I agree with Stephanie that the elevator video, while disturbing, should never be the sole piece of evidence that makes her the aggressor. He did follow her back into the elevator when she was trying to leave. Other people have seem him hit her. But we'd also be lying if we said there wasnt disturbing evidence against her as well.
@@Benleyy I'm not disagreeing. I just think it's funny that the defense decided to say that when there is video evidence that she decided to hit him when he wasn't doing anything to her in the video other than pushing her away from him. I don't know if he did things to her at any other point. We have nothing that we can physically see of that being the case.
@@pootieis42 that's not really what I got from that. To me it looked like they were going somewhere and she was already angry, but they were both leaving so he also got in the elevator. I don't know, that's just what it looked like to me. It didn't look like he was trying to do anything to her other than get her off of him.
Also, please don't assume what I have or haven't been through. I was abused by my mother, her boyfriend, emotionally and sexually abused by partners, emotionally and physically abused by people who I thought were my friends, and a close high school friend of mine was murdered the year she turned 18. You don't know anything about my experiences and going off at me and telling me I need to "shut my mouth" because you think I don't know what I'm talking about because I was making fun of the defense being hypocritical is ignorant and condescending. Think about the way you're acting before invalidating another person's experiences just because you don't like what they have to say.
I clicked so fast!! I've been waiting for you to make a video about this case. I would love for you and Derrick to do the Amanda Knox case.
That’s an excellent idea!
Yes!!! I'm there for that one..😀
@@StephanieHarlowe perfect I'm glad you think so! I'll be looking out for it 😌😏
Good suggestion, I'm still confused about that case.
No way was it self defense and no way did she throw the knife like that.. what is she Rambo? I am however surprised that she is arrested again. I thought she would skate free. Love you Miss Harlow 💖💓🤍💕👏🏾💫🙏🏾💯
RAMBOOOOO!!!! LMAOOOO!
Just curious 🤔 why did you think she was going to get off without any consequences?
I thought she’d get off with little to no consequences because she’s a pretty white girl.
@@beautyonabarnbudget For me, after Rebecca Ruud got off after her daughter Savannahs murder, nothing in our so called Justice system surprises me. ☮️💜
@@beautyonabarnbudget well to be honest an attractive white woman and a black guy. Also how quickly they released her the first time was an indication that she'd walk free. But maybe not, hopefully not.
Stephanie I’ve been listening to you for a long time and I could easily notice how much unbiased you were in this video rather than your previous videos. I completely understand your rage and being biased about DA.Even you being biased is producing the best and my favorite true crime content in youtube, now you are evolving and developing your work. I love you, I’m so proud of you because you could have passed your trauma and heal from it. I enjoyed this video so much. Thank you for all you’ve done. Great job
I always look forward to your show.
I Really like, that you take your time to talk about your sponsor at the beginning of Every episode. Not just a recording.
Idk why, I just wanted to thank you for doing that.
It's a different change
I was in an abusive relationship too and to everyone else, we were a "perfect couple". I was never brave enough to call the police. I was scared what would happen to me next if I did. I knew the abuse would be worse. I see alot of parallels in this case with my former life.
That girl was not abused 😒
@@jelissasmith6971 I agree with you. Her actions were similar to my abuser with the alcoholic anger. In the end, my abuser chose alcohol over his family. He never got any help and ended up passing away because of it. That song, "Love the Way You Lie" always seems to be exactly what that relationship was to me.
Unfortunately I can too relate. I just moved out for the last time..I let my best friend talk me into moving myself & my 13yr old & 9mo. Old girls in with her. I'm now not worried, stressed, or anything else. I hope u have too found a better & safe environment
I'm sorry you had to go through that but im glad you got out 🧡
Very proud of you.
Just woke up and I’m immediately having a good day, for the simple fact that you posted a video today! ☺️ Have a great day Stephanie and everyone else!
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Same here! Stephanie always makes my day better when she posts! Plus part 3 of summer wells comes out today on spotify! Love her and Derrick
@@CreatureCargaux I didn’t say I was excited for another murder video. Just the fact that Stephanie posted a video. I didn’t even watch the video before posting
@@CreatureCargaux but okay go off ☺️
Hi Stephanie, thanks for talking about the “repetitive argument” thing. Basically you said ‘if you know you know’ and I definitely know. I just broke up with my boyfriend yesterday because of this exact thing, and it’s been hard. It’s so easy to gaslight yourself into thinking things will get better. I loved my partner but I love myself more and I wish this to everyone else in this situation. It’s hard but you will get through it! You deserve to feel safe and happy in your relationship- don’t settle 💕
I'm not saying this to try to change your mind at all but marriage counselors say that about 80% of issues a couple has will not be resolved. People just learn to compromise, adjust or separate. So having the same issues come up over and over again doesn't mean the relationship is bad it's pretty normal.
I’ve heard this story told a couple of times. You’re still the best girl!!!
❤️❤️❤️
As someone who was in a relationship similar to this, you saying “no way he would attack her while she was on the phone” my ex husband tried to kill me WHILE I was on the phone with my mom screaming. My entire family, friends, everyone, knew I was being abused.
My ex dragged me back home from the neighbors house by my hair, in front of my neighbors while they watched.
Not every abuse situation is a hidden situation.
The man was fed up with high phone bills?
@@Georgi_Slavov excuse me?
@@patriciah.3001 well,you said he tried to kill you, while you were talking on the phone, maybe you talk to much on the phone,that's what i meant.
@@Georgi_Slavov get out of my replies and get a life
@@patriciah.3001 and i will get a tattoo.
In Canada, when a couple resides together, it is considered the “matrimonial“ home. It doesn’t matter who’s name is on the lease or mortgage. I believe you would need a restraining order to remove natural allowance to be in the home.
As a person who suffered from someone with alcohol addiction I totally support the statement that too much of alcohol is NEVER a good thing! Two bottles of Grey Goose?? 😳😨Stay away from those kinda people or run! Before it’s too late ‼️‼️‼️
If Christian was mutually physically abusive, why didn’t he snap instantly when she hit him in the elevator?
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!
It’s possible that he knew there were cameras in the elevator 🤷🏻♀️ Or maybe he wasn’t physically abusive, but mentally and emotionally abusive instead. So hard to know when we only have one side of this story 😕
Because he was already winning in the elevator. She obviously didn't want him in there and he forced himself into her space and she was trapped there with him. His presence in an enclosed space with someone who didn't want him there could also be considered abusive behaviour
Thisss
I'm not saying that he was an abuser but he lived in the building and would know there was a camera in the lift.
Her attorney saying that an incident a week prior lead to the stabbing, that makes things sound a lot more premeditated
Steph I’ve been watching you for a while but I recently got a kitten and she also loves watching you! She loves how much you move your hands when you talk and she’ll put her paws on the screen 🥹.
My sweet little cat Alfie liked her videos too. He would snuggle in bed with me, right over top of the phone and watch.😼💗😼💓😼💕
Great job covering this and being unbiased!❤️ I agree that ultimately Courtney is guilty. She allowed her emotions to get the best of her and she made a horrible impulsive decision that I believe she must be held accountable for. I think she knows that too. Hence why she was feeling suicidal. The magnitude of what she did hit her like a ton of bricks. I like how you highlighted how complicated these toxic relationships can be. There’s nothing cut and dry about them. I also like how you described repetitive argument’s because you totally nailed it.
Girl I was watching retro commercials here on RUclips and then your notification popped up and I said "ooohhh coffee and crime time! ' and switched over. I was just watching the elevator vid on this case yesterday and a little info but I know you will be doing a deep dive and I'm here for it. 😊😊😊 I don't want to say what I think yet till I hear all your facts Stephanie. ❤️Have a wonderful weekend!
I was watching a carpet cleaning video and clicked the notification at once lol
Stephanie Harlowe on alcohol: "I'm a big fan."
Lmao, me sipping on Evan Williams, laying in bed after a long work day, getting ready to make a grilled cheese at 11:30pm, harming absolutely no one. Thank you Stephanie!
I really want to thank you for sharing about your own experiences regarding domestic abuse. This is a good thing and I thank you for it Stephanie.
Totally off topic. That lime green looks so good on you 😊 I love the red hair with the lime green... stunning!
First let me say, that "stripper at the dive bar" is likely doing what she feels she has to do as well, just for less money. About the stabbing, I think they fought from the time he came through the door, she stabbed him and then called her mother, to give him time to die and to give herself an alibi of sorts. After 7 minutes, or was it 6 - I don't remember which order it was in - she hung up, realized he still needed more time, called her mom back directly like she just remembered something else she hadn't said, stretched it as long as she could and decided she might as well call for real help. I hope she is as popular in lockup as she is online. That poor boy is dead and anybody can say whatever they want to about him, paint him as the worst criminal and he can't refute their claims.
I absolutely agree.
Yeah, that was strange that she made that comparison. Don’t all sex workers deserve respect?
wait, I missed the stripper at the dive bar comment, what does that mean? anyone have a timestamp?
@@mischr13 she said the girl was a professional but instead was being treated “like a stripper in a dive bar” as if one deserves less respect than the other. So basically she respects sex workers as long as they’re up to her standards
@@sumr3224 Wow. Dial it back, Ma'am!
Stephanie clearly meant the men asking the questions and making comments were being disrespectful as if "she was a stripper in a dive bar" NOT doing a professional, sit down, podcast interview!! 😂 Jaysus!
Yes, there are different ways to behave in different settings!
"woooo baby, shake your tail feathers! Show me that ass" would be marginally appropriate heckling in a gentleman's club - is it appropriate to tell a lady to stand up and do the same in the middle of a filmed, professional interview? Not so much.
I know y'all love to hate Steph... But let's pick something real, huh? ✌️
I love the way you explain the "unresolved repetitive argument". On point 👏
How could she feel like she was in imminent danger if she threw the knife from 10 ft away? if he was 10 ft away she could at least hide in the bathroom or leave.
Stephanie, you did a good job in this video and did so very objectively without bias. Additionally, the amount of information and insight you' provided far exceeds what I've seen in other reports. As always, awesome job.
Country accent " I'm just a little Texas girl, tryin to make it in the big city" 🤣
I just watched the elevator part and heard her attorney's statement. Her attorney is a hypocrite. He said this video gas no bearing on what happened and that the case is about what happened that night and only that night. However he also states that the police found an independent witness who allegedly saw Mr. Obumseli, sorry I don't know how to spell it, hitting Ms. Cox while he was in his apartment. So which is it? Either the case can only be based on the events that occurred the night Ms. Cox killed Mr. Obumseli or their life together and the the events of that night. I don't really think what they were arguing about is relevant per say. I don't think she meant to kill him but the reality is that she did kill him. I 💯 don't believe it was self defense. She needs to go to prison.
Agreed 💯
Yes you're right! Her lawyer dismissing the elevator footage...ok then dismiss what the neighbor saw as well then too
Because of one you have to raise the other
Omg I’ve been waiting for this case!!!!!! I was like someone bring light to this case, Kendall Rae, someone!!!!! Thank you Stephanie!!!❤️
Thanks for always helping my work day’s Stephanie
In CA if someone gets mail at your property and have some belongings there, they are presumed to be living there and you have to go through a process to evict even if they aren't on the lease.
As a former OF creator, it is very very common to pre record and schedule posts and even mass messages. I would record on my weekends off and schedule posts throughout the week