The Ugly Side of the Hunting Industry
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2017
- The ugly side of the hunting industry. In this video, I explain some of the things that have gone on and that do take place because of the ugly side of what is driving the hunting and outdoor related industry.
Fantastic video, thanks!
Thank you!
Great thoughts Sean!
Thanks, brother. I appreciate it. God bless you.
Very much agree!
Awesome
Sean,
I too started bow hunting in the early 80’s. Hunting October Whitetails was about the only thing out on VHS. Back then bow hunters were a very small part of the hunting population as a whole.
The commercialization of the sport for those who choose to put their eggs in that basket has definitely change the game for some. Stay true to the outdoor experience with respect for the wildlife and you won’t be disappointed.
Thanks for sharing your opinion, I couldn’t agree more.
Amen brother
Another great video. Very informative. Thank you...
Thanks, David!! God bless you
The polkadot man is a hunter! JK love your video on calls and your public land videos
Thanks Richard
Well said.....
Thank you.
And speaking of "big" deer, what about all the shit the manufacturers are putting in the "feed". You look at old photos of buck poles and you don't see the monstrosities you see today. You didn't see bucks with 20, 30 or 40 or more points with none pointing in the same direction (and people eat these deer). Manufacturers should be compelled to list what's in this shit just as they do on our groceries. Thanks Sean
Thanks, Richard. God bless you
Very well said! New to your channel. I'll be checking out your other videos
Thanks so much! I appreciate it. God bless you!
Great video Sean! Good lessons learned!
Thanks so much. God bless you.
This is a very important point that you articulate well in this video and your other recent video where you sat in front of your mounts and explained the difference between Appalachia white tails and Midwest farm herds
THanks so much! God bless you.
Well said Sean. The hunting industry, in my opinion, has ruined hunting. The average person is not going to spend thousands of dollars on a hunting lease, tower stands, Atvs, etc on the latest and greatest things in order to harvest a deer. It’s all about the money. Just like you said. Hopefully hunters will come around and realize that hunting isn’t about all the “flash and glam “. That’s why I really enjoy watching your videos. You do your homework and go into the woods and get the job done. Keep up the good work work.
Thanks, Michael. I appreciate it. God bless ya.
I've been saying this for years..boy do people get mad when I bring it up...I get looked at like a devil for wanting to fill my tags with meat deer
@@brandonritchey484 I hear ya. Same with me.
Great commentary! So much of true hunting is not well represented in the “industry side”. My uncle taught me much about learning the behavior of the animal, how to scout, moving through the woods, wind, terrain, etc. Much of hunting shows today focus on shooting from the same stand every season near the same feeder, which loses much of the skill and accomplishment of hunting and focuses only on size of the game.
Finally, so much of hunting is about large game. There are many small game (squirrel, rabbit, etc) hunting opportunities that make hunting very accessible, much easier to learn, with much less preparation and much easier for someone to start there than the more intimidating Deer, hog, elk, etc. Unfortunately, the industry doesn’t focus on getting new hunters in with small game, where much of hunting ethics can be taught to new hunters.
Thanks, Sean. God bless you.
Love your videos. I like your honesty and option on many things. You are the only channel that I post comments on anymore because you are the only one to respond. No mater how big your channel grows you always make the effort to respond to everyone that comments. Wish I lived closer would love to hang out or go on a hunt with you. Keep up the great work and can’t wait to watch more.
Thanks so much, I appreciate that. It is hard work sometimes trying to respond to everyone, but I try. God bless you.
Always enjoy your videos Sean! Nice mix of archery, philosophy (and religion) and life topics.
Thanks so much! God bless you.
Amen brotha, its about time someone spoke on this!
Thanks. I appreciate the support. God bless you.
Sean's Outdoor Adventures same too you
This is fantastic. Just recently I stopped focusing so much on "killing a monster buck" and instead enjoy my time hunting. I'm usually successful each year in filling the freezer and getting a good buck every now and then. The hunting shows create an unrealistic expectation on hunting. And let's be honest, most of these guys are hunting high fenced ranches.
That's great, Jay. Glad you have come to that point. God bless you and your hunts.
Sean
Well said. Thank you. I believe most hunters out there subscribe to this line of thought but get left behind by the ‘trophy rack’ mentality of the commercialization of hunting. Keep doing what your doing Sean, that’s why I subscribed to your channel and watch with my daughter.
Thanks. I appreciate that. Hat tip to you and your daughter. God bless you.
O so true Sean! Great call brother.
Thanks. God bless you.
Love how you keep it real with hunting. Thats why your channel is great
Thanks
Awesome! Well said
Thanks! God bless you.
Sean this is a great little deal you just did. The word industry , related to hunting is a problem. It is a problem with fishing as well. Respect for the animal has been lost. You see it on the river. They are considered trophies, not food, or an animal that rewards you with so much more then just a trophy. They give you an amazing adrieniline rush , a high, a respect for nature! These things have been lost , and the industry is what is driving the loss of this
Amen, Mike, I hear you. God bless ya.
Refreshing. Well said. Your hunts are a lot like my hunts!
Thanks Scott, that is great. Glad you watch them. God bless you.
Personally I don’t watch hunting shows on tv as much because most of them hunt with outfitters, so you know that there chances of shooting something is pretty good, instead I watch people that hunt on RUclips because they are just like normal every day people who get out on the weekends and enjoy the great outdoors. Plus they only hunt public or private property.
Amen, Tanner. God bless you.
Amen great video
Thanks Blood trail. God bless you.
Great video..
Thanks Al. God bless you.
The problem with hunting is Walmart and other stores selling bait feeders and so on. Baiting is not hunting at all killing a animal under a feeders is killing. No hunt to it at all. That’s the problem
Thanks for watching
@@seansoutdoors deer rabbits squirrels bobcat quail pheasant it’s a awesome smothered in gravy.
Love it. Thoughtful treatment of what we do (in part who we are), the animals and values/ethics of it all
Thanks, Dave. God bless you my brother.
Great video Sean! Unfortunately greed has taken over this planet; hunting is no exception. You are one of the Few people I will watch and listen to on you tube. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Jon, I'm honored you are willing to listen to my videos. God bless you.
I do believe the industry is taking a turn towards reality because people are realizing you don’t just hit your grunt tube a couple times and 160 inch deer walks in at 20 yards and drops all within 15 minutes as portrayed on a lot of hunting shows.. that being said.. I’m seeing more public land shows popping up and it’s refreshing to see the real world situations like we see on most of our sits in a stand. It’s almost harmful for a hunter to expect that once in a lifetime buck to appear out of nowhere as they do on some of the shows.. keep promoting the real sport of hunting Sean you are doing a great job and may Christ guide your every step.
Thanks. God bless ya
Best vid I’ve watched in awhile
Thanks, Nick. God bless ya
Great video man!
Thanks
Prech .....i like this!!good video
Lol, thanks so much Tim, I appreciate you watching. God bless you.
Great video point hits home the sean
Thanks, I appreciate it. God bless you.
Amen. Maranatha!
Thanks! AMEN! God bless you.
You seem like a really good dude Sean. Nail on the head video! You at the ATA ever? If so would love to catch up sometime
Thanks so much. I haven't been to it in the past but would like to get out there at some point. God bless you.
Well said, yet there were videos of giant bucks being killed back in the late 80's early 90's. I started hunting in 1986, the VHS tapes were called monster buck series, they were filmed and produced by Bill Jordans realtree, there were a few other ones as well, and Cabela's and Bass pro has been around just as long. I will agree that you got better expertise at the mom and pop archery shops, still do to this day
Where I grew up in PA there were not videos, and there were not Cabelas. While Cabelas might have been around, they were not spread out or all over the place, so their exposure and influence was minimal as no one I knew had ever even heard of them. Hunting videos didn't turn up in video rental stores until the 1990s, which is when my friends and I started to find them.
Sean's Outdoor Adventures unfortunately for at least 25 years the push has been towards record caliber bucks, that's what drives sales of these products, it's a marketing psychological scheme, consumers,(hunters) see pics of big 200" plus bucks on the products then they assume by using said product they will produce the same results, not knowing that the biggest majority of the big bucks are taken on high fenced farms. There is a show on RUclips called conquest200 go check it out, that is where most of these deer come from.
Sean i love you brother. You make it real and make no excuses. The world captures so many people even us Christians. Our sole focus has to be Him and all the rest kinda falls into place. I wish Me and a few of my buddies and your self could connect sometime to do Sean’s MRC. us boys from the south could bring a new flavor to it. Love you vids and encourage. I’m headed to church now. God Bless you dear brother.
Thanks Wes. I'm trying to send out a newsletter today with updates on the application process to be on an MRC. God bless you.
Spot on, Bro...character matters
Amen, thanks Eric. God bless ya.
well said...also many not all of these hunts are on fenced property or canned hunts. I have been in these type of fenced areas because of relatives etc.. reminds me alot of a dairy farm. Its not real hunting on pressured lands. Many of these big name hunters would not even hunt if they had to hunt on land with other pressure. Also note if you have a DVR record some of these so called awesome hunters and then rewind or slo-mo the "smoked it " shot.....wow some are absolute gut shots.
Lol, that last part cracked me up. Thanks for watching my video. God bless you.
I agree. With everything you said.
Thanks Charles. God bless ya
Quit watching those shows 10yrs ago. Wish everyone would. Problem solved.
Lol. amen. God bless you.
Amen!!
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I'm not a religious person, but I respect your belief's and admire you for your stance. Your message still lands on me personally. Care about people. Be a Human being and get rid of the ego. Very well said.
You are a great advocate for our passion.
Thanks, John. God bless ya.
Very well said!
Big bucks make you a fortunate hunter,not necessarily a good hunter
Thanks, Jason. God bless you.
I would never shoot a small buck even if season is winding down, I would rather shoot a doe and let the buck grow
There are people who would, and who have mouths to feed. The point is that you can't take antlers with you when you die, so more important than the size of the buck you shoot is the person you are. We all need to learn how to love our neighbor before that day of judgment arrives. When we get to fixated on sales, and antlers, and money, that is when things go down the drain for us, and I don't just mean in this life. God bless you.
Ins California, its hard to pass up a forky..someone else will come shoot it after you let it walk lol. Wish we can shoot does and let the small bucs go..
Well said. I was wondering have you seen any of Michael Waddels videos on this subject? I saw your video calling him out I just wondered if you knew he's been calling out the hunting industry for years for losing touch with the every day hunter? I saw him talk about 10 yrs ago at the Cabelas in Hamburg PA . He really brought out how hunting is supposed to be fun and to shoot whatever makes you happy don't let the tv hunters tell you what you should do or how to hunt. He has also said many times that the best hunters are not on tv but are the ones that are regular people out there getting it done. just wondered what your thoughts were thanks
Haven't seen it. That is great that he has talked that way. God bless ya.
Sean's Outdoor Adventures waddy talks that way allll the time.
If waddell spoke that way all the time then why is he still hunting high fenced farms, if he really felt that way he would be hunting public land to show what everyday hunters have to deal with. Like Sean, and hunting public show, and many other shows just like these.
I was sort of thinking that too.
John Rough believe what you will. But the only time he hunts high fences animals is for Promo (Hoyt Redwrx Release video) bone collector is fair chase. Just because it’s a quote unquote Ranch/Farm doesn’t equate to High Fence. And public land hunting usually is for people that don’t have access to private land. At least that’s the case in why I don’t hunt public land.
Keep speaking the truth brother!
Thank you!
Praise the lord!! Let me know if your ever on the eastern shore of Maryland I hunt public here and it can be great! Good public sika deer hunting too
I've thought about it. I just haven't made it down there yet. Please send me an email through my website and I will save it with my other invites and if I ever can get down that way maybe we can get together! God bless you.
AMEN!!!!!!! Nothing but the true.
Thanks. God bless you
Well said. I think the equation of big buck=good hunter is false and needs to be called out more. It takes more hunting acumen to get a doe on one of your MRC than it does to get a 140 class buck on a private farm in Iowa.
Nothing wrong with doing either of those hunts, but the experience and the challenge(and the meat, of course) should be the reward in and of itself. It’s a shame that people would waste an animal and break the law just for a rack. Not really what hunting should be about.
Amen. God bless you.
I love RUclips because it allows us to share our hunts with an audience without the sportsman’s channels regulations, which often lead to these results!
Awesome. Thanks. God bless you.
Poaching problems with big name "celebrity" hunters really is not new. I remember back in the early 2000s there were a spat of convictions of these hunters. I would say it is more than carelessness on Busbice's part. If you take something you don't just intentionally let it go to waste. Good video as always.
Thanks
All real hunters who respect wildlife and people should do all they can to separate themselves from "the industry". I know most guys will need to buy some products that are mass produced but my friends and I do deliberately minimize this aspect. I walk into the woods with a longbow. I have never watched any of these so called hunting shows. Never will. Guys if you check the websites there is no indication that any real changes from within are being made. I do not do anything like what these guys do and I do not use equipment they use or promote. I would be very skeptical of any company that sponsored these shows. These two mentioned are not alone. MANY sponsored hunters going back into the 80s were frauds and worse. Just because someone hunts or has a show does NOT mean I support them and I am NOT in this with everyone.
Thanks for sharing, Cory. God bless you.
You are right sgain! The tv shows are infomercials & they present an illusion that, after viewing multiple shows, the audience becomes desensitized to the reality, & pleasure of hunting. It becomes another job always it must be a buck, a gigantic buck, if it isn't then bagging a buck or doe is anticlimactic.
Thanks, David. Amen and God bless you!
Well said Sean, I have been saying this for years. Bill and Chris are just a couple of the Celebrity hunters that have been busted. If you go back and do some searching you will find many many more. One is a very well known hunter, very loved person. I see so many people that get no respect for the game they shoot. No one needs to shoot a big buck, the pressure is so great. Most hunters do not have the land and big deer in the areas they hunt in order to shoot these deer. Respect the game and for get the pressure. Shoot what makes you happy, not what someone else says is acceptable.
Amen, brother, amen. Thanks for sharing and God bless you.
I have never cared about shooting monster buck's. I've always cared about a full freezer. If I shoot a big buck.. Great.. If I don't. Whooooopdeeee dooooooo..
Great
I try to go for older deer. I don’t want to take one that has only been around one season.
I do the same. I try to hold out for a 3.5 year old, but if it is the end of a long distance hunt, or end of the season, and I need meat or need to fill my tag, I will lower the bar to a 2.5 year old, but I won't shoot a 1.5 year old unless it is a severely wounded deer and it becomes the ethically merciful thing to do to put it out of its suffering. However, i don't let the antlers become the end all be all. Thanks for watching and God bless you.
Sean's Outdoor Adventures my younger brother brings in most of the deer. I shook my head after he killed a young spiked buck and said, “Daryck the Bambi slayer.” He smirked and said “this saves us money and it’s meat in the freezer. Where is your deer?” I have yet to see an old enough deer to take. Great videos man. God bless!
Need and necessity is a strong motivator. Maybe you just don't have that need for the meat and can wait for something older.
Sean's Outdoor Adventures yeah I have not had a need for meat every year I have went. Mainly a bonding thing with my Dad and brother and I eat more veggies than anything. Going to be moving to Texas and in between careers so I will have a greater need to fill tags than before. I already told my wife next year we will be eating a turkey killed with a broad head and not a farmer. Hopefully I can put the tips you have shared to good use and get some kills to put a dent in the grocery bill. God bless Sean.
Amen brother, may God bless your efforts.
You nailed it buddy! There are only 2 people in the outdoor business I pay attention to, Tim Wells, and Ted Nugent. I don't much care for the Outdoor Channel etc.
THanks Nate. God bless you.
Hey Sean, I enjoy your channel. I wanna recommend a book for you/y'all. BLOODTIES by Ted Keresote. It's great and deals with alot of hunting morality.
Thanks but I probably won't read it, just because I'm currently working on a master's degree and have enough reading I need to do for that to last me a long time. When I am not doing that or hunting or making a video, I am watching my kids which leaves me no time for much else. Thanks though, and God bless you.
This may be obvious but I think the "convenience" of buying licenses and tags over the internet have also spawned a culture of dishonesty along with taking money out of the hands of local stores. Here in Ohio, you call in your deer to a computer and they give you a number. Well how many people are not getting licenses and/or tags for their deer? Also, the deer limit in Ohio has been cut in half over the last few years across the state, (IMO) due to the compensation of dishonest hunters that are killing many more deer then tags sold. I'm relatively new to hunting, so this is just a observation.
Thanks for sharing. God bless you.
I enjoy every opportunity I have to go out in pursuit of a deer or turkey. Kill or no kill. Sometimes we get lucky!! But we ALWAYS have a great time trying.
God bless you
They wonder why hunting is being cast as a bad thing , well it's been made insanely pushed , watch the shows it's a pan to the products every two seconds. The board head , the bow down to the camera arm. It's made to look easy and everything is a monster buck. I like the show the meat eater he really takes you to how to kill it to how to cook it. We have lost it , we are on the slippery slope not solid ground . It has bothered me for years. My friends are even caught up in it with big Horn chasing.
I watched a series on hunting Marsh bucks and back Hill country bucks , that's the kind of shows we need ones that explain hunting , wind currents , how to skirt the buck. That is a hunting show not a guy sitting in a tree drawing back, because some outfitter said go here. It's not hunting
Thanks Mike. I appreciate you and everyone checking out the video, God bless you.
Nice video Sean. Too often people get criticized for killing a smaller deer. To me if you can consistently kill deer you’re good at hunting. I once ran into a guy at a state park he was wearing jeans, sneakers no camo and walking with a crossbow he was bragging about how he shot a really big and nice 8 point the year before. Just by simply walking the trails for hikers to me that was luck he bumped a deer and since he had a crossbow he was able to get the shot off. Anyway keep doing what you’re doing Sean happy holidays.
Thanks, Jason. I guess he will learn that there is a thing called beginners luck, lol. God bless you
For me the "hunt" has always been the trophy. I've not killed a deer in 6yrs since I've started strictly bowhunting. I lost all my private ground to land buyers and leasing companies. So now all i have is public land and it is tough. I made a ton of great memories though. That's what it should be about.
That is great Russell that you have found the joy of the hunt. Amen to that and God bless you.
That is where the real tragedy of hunting as an Industry comes from, it creates private ground land buyers and leasing companies that want to profit off the sport.
Who else is excited for Pa's rifle season to open up
Lol, I am sure there are a few hundred thousand people who are right there with you!
I've struggle with this there were several elk under me I shot one and was very tempted to shoot a bigger one .
Lol, I can imagine. God bless you.
I fully agree I can't even stand to watch those unrealistic shows. It's about getting out and enjoying Gods creation.
Thanks Trad Man. God bless you.
It's on us too. This desire to have a trophy photo to show off what a great hunter you are is damaging. It makes the whole process of hunting less enjoyable..you feel pressure. I have some properties I hunt that I would be lucky to shoot a yearling doe. I have some where I pass up bucks. I get more joy out of a clean, quick, humane doe kill on the former properties then I do shooting a 3.5 y/o on the latter. We all need to lower our standards and just enjoy being in the woods. Only YOU really know how good a hunter you are. And YOUR opinion should be the only one that matters.
Thanks for watching and sharing. God bless you.
I have been hunting for over thirty years and i don't buy the products any more i started by walking in the woods with a shot gun and setting on the ground and other than setting in a stand with a rifle that's all i use no camo no nothing. i hope they all go out of business and the TV hunter loose there jobs.
Awesome
Loved it thanks for making that video.i love how your not afraid of saying the name Jesus!😝👍👍
Amen, brother! Praised be Jesus, He is why we are even here! Thank's and glory be to Him.
now I'm not a religious man but I live your message.
Thanks Kenneth. God bless you.
I am a member in a hunting group here in Alberta. and I think you should touch on hunters being asshole to other Hunter. especially to new hunters.
It is certainly a shame when that happens! I'm sorry when it does and wish people wouldn't be that way!
Sean very very well said I had a conversation with an individual on Facebook tonight about Chris Brackett because I had heard something but I didn't know if it was true and he tried to convey to me that it was but he did not show me any proof so I just looked it up on RUclips and it is there for everyone to see although it doesn't really say anything about him being illegal and shooting two bucks where he was at because I didn't know if you could or could not but what offended me the most was the language that he use and I t like you I am a born again Christian and my hope one day is to be in heaven with Jesus so I hated to see that because I like that show but that just goes to show you how you can put Faith in someone because he always talked about the Lord he talked about being good and wholesome then to see this really really awful language coming out of his mouth was very disconcerting so I thank you for pointing all this out and it is really just heartbreaking because you are right it all comes down to the money on some of the TV shows that are out there today not all of them. God bless you brother and keep fighting the fight and telling the truth.
Thanks for checking out my video, Tim. I hear you on all accounts. God breaks us down so that He can change our hearts and build us back up. Hopefully that is what He is doing with Chris. God chastises those whom He loves, so, when we are corrected or reproved we should count it as a mercy. God bless you.
It's all about drawing people's attention. Whether that's big bucks or wild personalities. I think we need more Steve Rinella and fewer Chris Brackett types of personalities. The rise of RUclips hunting channel's could help. People are turning away from the mainstream shows. On the flip side though, I've also wondered if social media is hurting more than helping the hunting experience.
It may come down to the people. People can make or brake it, depending on their behavior. It is pretty much the same in anything in life.
Drurys are the same way has to be a big buck no body wants to shoot a doe anymore
Thanks for watching Don. God bless you.
Big Bucks,,has a price on there head shameful to say,,,,,and dog hunters wont let them make it to that maturity,,,,,,the hunting industry ,and deer showes,competition put that price on the deers head
Thanks Drew . God bless you
Well stated. I feel like almost all of the hunting stuff you see these days is fake/staged. It's so disappointing.
Thanks, The Hammer. I appreciate you watching and commenting. God bless you.
Most of it is fake, staged crap.
T.V hunting is boring, the only show I watch was Buck Commander, that's more for the comedy. I know money drives some people to make awful decision, but if they showed the truth on their shows I think it would be way more meaningful to viewers.
THanks Andre. God bless you.
its funny how theas pepole pouched but are still called hunter the second they stoped playing by the rules or pouched they were no longer a hunter a hunter would have just took the original buck even if it was smaller and a hunter would have called the local game warden and said i sorry i maDE a horibble mistake and shot a cow instead of the bull i meant to pepole like this give all the good hunters a bad name
Yeah, I guess that is a good point.
Deer farming IS WRONG. Hunting is out of reach of the common man.
Thanks for watching
The ugly side is sponsorships, which you partake in. Sponsorships influence opinions. Let’s be honest about this.
LOL, I don't have any sponsors, lol. And, if you look at my content, I am unbiased in my presentation. And, when do you see me being disrespectful toward deer or caring only about big bucks? When do you see me not trying to care about people? If you look through my videos you will see that I make a solid effort to respond to people. I don't need to do that, but I make the effort. Again, I will let my actions speak for themselves.
Sean's Outdoor Adventures didn’t you just get broad heads from some company? Were those free or did you pay? But yes you are respectful-that’s why I watch.
THey offered to sponsor me by giving me products, but I told them I'd think about it. I'm not really in need of products so we will see. They sent me one broadhead to test out, and if I like it then we will talk about anything else. However, that has not influenced my unbiased approach, which you incorrectly accused me of being swayed by sponsors.
Sean's Outdoor Adventures I just i have to take up for Sean here ... he calls it like he sees it .. I have heard and seen him dislike the same company that provided him stuff , keep up the good work sean