Well Sean, if true that's an interesting development. I'm a hunter from North Carolina who hunts a lot on public land. Within a thirty mile radius of my home there are over 100,000 acres of public land. Typically I put out trail cameras in the middle of July. By then I'll get lots of pictures of big velvet bucks. Our bow season typically begins at the end of the first week of September. Normally I'll leave my cameras out for a month or so and, as a rule of thumb, I retrieve them a couple of weeks before the start of the season. For me, the trail cameras serve a twofold purpose. First of all, I love seeing the big bucks on camera. I enjoy that just about as much as hunting them. But of course, this does tell me if there are big bucks in a particular area so I can identify places I want to hunt. I don't own any cell cameras. When I go to the woods I have no idea what I have filmed until I look at the SD card. However, other than allowing me to identify areas I might like to hunt, I don't see how this gives me any unfair advantage. On the other hand, I can certainly see the argument that real time photos of deer might allow a hunter to rush out to the woods to harvest a deer. I wonder if the state of Iowa has done any type of study that would indicate that the use of cellular trail cameras has had a negative impact on their deer herd. After all, they do have restrictions on the number of bucks that can be harvested as does every state. So, as a hunter I just don't see how cell cams can be such a negative. Honestly, I don't use them because they tend to disappear on public land, otherwise I'd have a few
I put out trail cameras (NOT cell cameras), here in Kentucky on public land the first of July and remove them the last day of August... That gives me two full months of intel on the deer in the area I plan to hunt. Our season here opens the first weekend of September, so I review all the pictures/videos taken for those two months before opening weekend. That's more than enough time to pick my target and plan my hunt. I consider this "FAIR CHASE"!!!
I’m not surprised Sean because I think the state of Arizona banned the use of all trail cameras! Look forward to your updates on the cellular camera rulings!
New law is you can’t leave them in over night. You also can’t use any electronic devise to aid in hunting which would include radios, drones or even cell phones.
I had read it was just public land that cell cams were outlawed on, or would be, in Iowa. Could have misread that as well, but that was how I understood what was posted elsewhere about it. If that is the case, I do support that on public lands but not on private lands owned and paid for by personal property taxes.
They just issued a new Statement saying the ban on cell cams has been put on hold. No changes will apply to the upcoming season regarding cell cams, as the Iowa DNR seeks more input from the public on this issue.
Not the same thing at all. You can’t run out to your camera and shoot the deer it’s impossible lol. Using a drone is live instant footage totally different.
Its funny but how can they monitor all the puplic land for trail cams left overnight, like they are going round with flashlights at night looking 😅 its not going to effect the deer population at all!
It was always illegal to use while actively hunting they dodnt change anything. They are only clarifying the law. I don't understand why everyone keeps saying they changed it. If you want to actually know the law just get ahold of the iowa Dnr and they will clearly tell you that they aren100% illegal on any land public or private while actively hunting.
I think it's great. I had an out of state hunt 2 years ago and a guy we ran into bragged about having 60 trail cams in the area. He ruined several of our hunts.24-7 deer surveillance provided by cell cams absolutely takes away from fair chase. Good job Iowa!
I agree with the cell camera ban on public land. Too many people have gotten to the point they just sit around waiting on a picture then walk straight through your setup during prime hunting hours just to get to their camera spot to hunt and blow it for everyone
I can see the reasoning... BUT.... Public land belongs to all.... Not to the "kings and queens" in gov't. Private land ban... NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!! Game wardens will be going on to private land even MORE than they already do without warrants or actual probable cause.... Just because "they can". You can always say "I am monitoring MY land for trespassers, like.....". Don't doubt me on the latter. They are doing it now and will not stop.
For those who think this is a good thing and somehow gives a hunter an unfair advantage then maybe no one is allowed to wear camo clothing because some camo patterns give a hunter an unfair disadvantage over other hunters and the deer have a harder time seeing them! Stay misinformed and let them take away all rights. Anyone ever had a trail camera shoot a deer for them? Asking for a friend!
@@seansoutdoors lol yeah I’m still trying to figure out how this makes hunting not fair chase. You can’t get a pic then run out to your camera and shoot the deer lol. I’ve gotten so many pics but I have never shot a deer because of the camera lol.
I'm from a province where everyone baits (unfortunate but perfectly legal) and I can understand why they are being banned, it's not fair chase when you have one watching every pile of apples you have. I know at least 5 big bucks (frome people I know) that were killed in the last few years solely because of the cell cameras. I wouldn't care at all if they were banned here as well
@@seansoutdoors I only hunt public and just seems like all the pieces of property I frequent are littered with cell cameras. Just one man's opinion and to each their own. Good luck this fall!
Real hunters know that trail cameras don’t get the deer for you and absolutely does not make it unfair in anyway. It’s the same thing as scouting areas to see if you want to hunt those locations. I’m guessing those who think this is a good thing are not true hunters.
Best news I've heard in a while.
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Well Sean, if true that's an interesting development. I'm a hunter from North Carolina who hunts a lot on public land. Within a thirty mile radius of my home there are over 100,000 acres of public land. Typically I put out trail cameras in the middle of July. By then I'll get lots of pictures of big velvet bucks. Our bow season typically begins at the end of the first week of September. Normally I'll leave my cameras out for a month or so and, as a rule of thumb, I retrieve them a couple of weeks before the start of the season. For me, the trail cameras serve a twofold purpose. First of all, I love seeing the big bucks on camera. I enjoy that just about as much as hunting them. But of course, this does tell me if there are big bucks in a particular area so I can identify places I want to hunt. I don't own any cell cameras. When I go to the woods I have no idea what I have filmed until I look at the SD card. However, other than allowing me to identify areas I might like to hunt, I don't see how this gives me any unfair advantage. On the other hand, I can certainly see the argument that real time photos of deer might allow a hunter to rush out to the woods to harvest a deer. I wonder if the state of Iowa has done any type of study that would indicate that the use of cellular trail cameras has had a negative impact on their deer herd. After all, they do have restrictions on the number of bucks that can be harvested as does every state. So, as a hunter I just don't see how cell cams can be such a negative. Honestly, I don't use them because they tend to disappear on public land, otherwise I'd have a few
Thanks for sharing
I put out trail cameras (NOT cell cameras), here in Kentucky on public land the first of July and remove them the last day of August... That gives me two full months of intel on the deer in the area I plan to hunt. Our season here opens the first weekend of September, so I review all the pictures/videos taken for those two months before opening weekend. That's more than enough time to pick my target and plan my hunt. I consider this "FAIR CHASE"!!!
Good video Sean. I get it that they are an advantage. Go Birds! 🦅
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Awesome that’s great.
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Good for IOWA the rest of the states need to do the same thing!!!
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DNR is getting out of control, crazy!!
Lol.
I’m not surprised Sean because I think the state of Arizona banned the use of all trail cameras! Look forward to your updates on the cellular camera rulings!
Thanks brother
New law is you can’t leave them in over night. You also can’t use any electronic devise to aid in hunting which would include radios, drones or even cell phones.
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Is it a law?
It sounds like they have retracted the idea for this year.
The government thieves waited until everyone bought a few 😂
lol yup hahaha
Doesn't seem fair to apply this to people who don't own land but not to people who do own land.
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We need to get you a KC Chiefs jacket, Sean! All the best!
I’m all for it. Andy used to be the coach of the Eagles so I always cheer for them when the Eagles are not on.
I had read it was just public land that cell cams were outlawed on, or would be, in Iowa. Could have misread that as well, but that was how I understood what was posted elsewhere about it. If that is the case, I do support that on public lands but not on private lands owned and paid for by personal property taxes.
Yeah I’ve heard it both ways on social media but I still can’t find anything official on it yet so this could also be incorrect what I said
The problem there is if it goes against fair chase on public it is also against fair chase on private. Game laws are game laws right?
Thats good info sir. Good understanding to the delema .. dennis in saskatchewan
Thanks brother.
Looking forward to the final decision. I can see other states following Iowa's lead if they do outlaw it. Thanks for sharing, Sean.👍🏼
Thanks brother, yeah, I can see it be a ripple effect if that does happen.
They just issued a new Statement saying the ban on cell cams has been put on hold. No changes will apply to the upcoming season regarding cell cams, as the Iowa DNR seeks more input from the public on this issue.
Yeah, that is what I heard.
How on earth is the state going to enforce this ban? Do they have any idea just how low the compliance rate will be?
Honor system.
If you could use those then you should be able to use drone recon during hunting also
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Not the same thing at all. You can’t run out to your camera and shoot the deer it’s impossible lol. Using a drone is live instant footage totally different.
Typical goverment bs man
Thanks for watching and sharing
Gonna disagree - most hunters don't want cel cams to be used.
I can see alot of states going this route. I have 5 cell cams and I can 100% see how it takes away from fair chase.
Thanks for sharing
How does it take away from fair chase? I’ve used them on public land for years and never once got a deer from my trail camera.
Never bought in to the cell cam thing, just my opinion.👍
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It’s not fair chase you ask me but that’s my opinion and thinking
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mine will be out for security
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Its funny but how can they monitor all the puplic land for trail cams left overnight, like they are going round with flashlights at night looking 😅 its not going to effect the deer population at all!
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It was always illegal to use while actively hunting they dodnt change anything. They are only clarifying the law. I don't understand why everyone keeps saying they changed it. If you want to actually know the law just get ahold of the iowa Dnr and they will clearly tell you that they aren100% illegal on any land public or private while actively hunting.
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I think it's great. I had an out of state hunt 2 years ago and a guy we ran into bragged about having 60 trail cams in the area. He ruined several of our hunts.24-7 deer surveillance provided by cell cams absolutely takes away from fair chase. Good job Iowa!
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A RUclips channel called “peppermintone” is reposting your video of “big 3 vs thundercat”
Thanks . I will look into that. God bless you
Im sorry but there not gona tell me what i can do on my own land
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Thank God I live in ohio. But I probably just jinxed myself.
lol maybe
It seems like it never ends In Iowa now there supposedly banning party hunting I’m glad I’m not in Iowa
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Isn’t that just for non-residents?
No, it was intended for everyone, including residents but it sounds like they have retracted the rule for now.
@@seansoutdoors no, the email from DNR specifically says non-residents
Wtf? DAFUQ?
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They should be outlawed in all states.
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I agree with the cell camera ban on public land. Too many people have gotten to the point they just sit around waiting on a picture then walk straight through your setup during prime hunting hours just to get to their camera spot to hunt and blow it for everyone
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That is a bigtime bummer
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Big time bummer for arm-chair hunters - for real hunters, it is a welcomed relief.
I can see the reasoning... BUT.... Public land belongs to all.... Not to the "kings and queens" in gov't.
Private land ban... NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!! Game wardens will be going on to private land even MORE than they already do without warrants or actual probable cause.... Just because "they can". You can always say "I am monitoring MY land for trespassers, like.....".
Don't doubt me on the latter. They are doing it now and will not stop.
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For those who think this is a good thing and somehow gives a hunter an unfair advantage then maybe no one is allowed to wear camo clothing because some camo patterns give a hunter an unfair disadvantage over other hunters and the deer have a harder time seeing them! Stay misinformed and let them take away all rights. Anyone ever had a trail camera shoot a deer for them? Asking for a friend!
I’ve had a camera shoot a picture but not an arrow 👍
@@seansoutdoors lol yeah I’m still trying to figure out how this makes hunting not fair chase. You can’t get a pic then run out to your camera and shoot the deer lol. I’ve gotten so many pics but I have never shot a deer because of the camera lol.
Hunting over food plots in bait should be banned also
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I'm from a province where everyone baits (unfortunate but perfectly legal) and I can understand why they are being banned, it's not fair chase when you have one watching every pile of apples you have. I know at least 5 big bucks (frome people I know) that were killed in the last few years solely because of the cell cameras. I wouldn't care at all if they were banned here as well
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I hope they do ban them, and better yet, hope they ban them in my state.
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My take: Private land can do whatever they want. Public land all cameras should be banned.
I imagine you’re not one who has to hunt public land hahaha. It’s always easier to say that when it doesn’t pertain to you lol.
@@seansoutdoors I only hunt public and just seems like all the pieces of property I frequent are littered with cell cameras. Just one man's opinion and to each their own. Good luck this fall!
Owners of private land also hunt public @seansoutdoors
Real hunters know that trail cameras don’t get the deer for you and absolutely does not make it unfair in anyway. It’s the same thing as scouting areas to see if you want to hunt those locations. I’m guessing those who think this is a good thing are not true hunters.
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