Not surprised that the Bronco won with its much chunkier tires. This just shows us that the tires on a 4x4 mean more than all the power and offroad tech these trucks have.
Exactly I did exactly this with my defender and my cousis's bronco. Mine had the proper offroad tyres and surface was grass. Both had top of the engines and i beat that Bronco easily
On slippery surfaces 99% of this test is based on the tires performance. We arent really seeing anything about vehicle capability here. I love the drag races and car reviews. This stuff is like a tesla gimmick to me though.
@@coolsquad7428 Shouldnt do it at all really it proves absolutely nothing. On pavement you would have to be dumb to let them do this. Its a great way to overheat a transmission or have a torque converter start slipping. Its a childish pissing contest. Just see who can hang the bigger pair of truck nuts off of their towing hitch. That will give just as accurate results.
Any chance you could do this again. With similar tyres. Also to make it really fair, put a tow bar on the defender so the rope attaches in the middle so it pulls straight and sideways . And let the defender have a go at the downhill part. Other than that a perfectly fair tug of war.
But you gotta understand that he is comparing vehicles as spec'd by the OEM. If they were to add tires, bar as you mentioned. Them someone one could easily just point at the Serious HP advantage the defender has. Defender 518 to Bronco 315. Where does it stop...? When you literally have 2 identical vehicles (just to make sure 1 doesn't have an unfair advantage).
A basic Walmart tow strap that size is rated for 8,000 lbs, or 4 tons. By law, most equipment is rated to half of its actual breaking point for safety. For example, a 5 ton jack can actually lift 10 tons before failure. The Defender's dry weight is 5,700lbs, with equipment and a man driving, it is likely around 6,000 lbs in this video. Remember the slippery conditions can hinder the pulling power of a vehicle. All the strap has to do is overcome the weight of the loosing vehicle, which is 6,000lbs. However, considering the strap is not holding up the vehicle and the slippery conditions, it could be pulling just 3,000-4,000 lbs. That is why I said "it is not pulling that much weight" COMPARED to its capabilities. Now, may I ask why you would strap a person to two opposing vehicles when a human has no where the capabilities of a basic Walmart tow strap?
@@precisionairgunninghunting6265 Plenty of other comparisons between the two. The Bronco beat it multiple times in almost every aspect. Tires and lockers come with the Bronco straight from the factory at a lower cost than the defender.
@@ec3886 but that's besides the point. This was a tug of war where one had a clear advantage. If the spec was reversed then the Defender would have won. Doesn't take rocket science to work that out.
It looks like the Defender is having to pull uphill. Flat ground and tires even down to the driver makes a HUGE difference. I don't think this was a fair tug.
This is the most inaccurate comparison ever. This not about Ford or Landrover or which has more power or which is a better vehicle - IT'S ABOUT TYRES & GRIP - the guy even says it in the video, then proceeds to bang on about how much better Ford is to Landrover??? How about using the same tyres on both vehicles, oh and is it just me or did everyone else see that the ford gets the snap on every round and starts pulling the Defender backwards before it accelerates??? STOP PUTTING UP INACCRUATE UNFAIR BIASED VIDEOS!!!
Very dubious test, need to do it again with the same tyres and on flat ground without Defender going uphill. Ps the best 4x4 by far..... is the Defender
Having watched this again and as others have commented, using the rear toe eye on the right slews it clockwise as it pulls because the towing force is all in one corner. Do it properly and fairly next time.
You should have switched positions you are going down hill and hes going up. Yes you have better tires but also the better position hence the result 😠😠😠👀👀👀👀👀
Try the same thing on dry pavement or use equivalent tires. The Defender’s wheels are spinning, which reduces grip. I agree the Defender is a better road car and more luxurious.
A lot of people I see are moaning about the tyres. That's just the thing. You cant get tyres like the Bronco stock on the Defender. If you give the Landy better tyres then it's not a stock on stock comparison. It is neither the channel's nor Fords fault that Land Rover doesn't offer big tread tyres as standard
I enjoyed it, but, you should have done various competitions, tug a wars, timed mud hill climbing, dry pavement drag race. Actually, I would have preferred an off road, mud hill timed competition the best. Like you said, this just proved who had the best tires.
Good stuff mate. I love how you race review off road , little bit of everything. I know you test what’s given to you but would also agree on tires. None less having front and back lockers makes difference too. And there is also a solid weight advantage here for the Defender and as you know in tug of war helps.
@@SamCarLegion thank you brother! And both just beautiful badass machines. We are very lucky to be living in a great time for cars. Bar keeps getting raised. Cheers and happy new year 🥳🥳
Why not just do a tire review? Every response from the OP is "it's fair because those are the tires that came on the car", who cares, you can change tires. Nobody bought a land rover, or bronco, because of the tires and any serious off roader would change the tires to suit the terrain.
@@steakandchips9046 clearly you missed the joke. A set of tires on their own.. No car, engine etc. The irony of you calling someone else a dumbass. Projection much? 😂 Clearly, not only do you not understand humor, you don’t understand how suspension tuning and articulation can affect how the tires contact the ground, weight and balance of the vehicle, etc. Yeah buddy, it’s all tires. Just snap on some BFG MT’s on a Mini then 😂
@@steakandchips9046 not really. I know the independent suspension on a VT Commodore sucks with getting traction to the ground, as the rear tires sit unevenly. Why do I need a particular set of tires to prove that? You’re WRONG again. But your original point was that it’s ONLY the tires that affect any of it, so please stick with that story and don’t try to change it now. 😂
I'm no fanboy of the new defender, but if I'm going by manufacturer provided specs, I'd pick the defender 9 times out of 10 over the bronco. The gvwr and towing capacity alone completely outclass the bronco. It's not even close. These 2 vehicles aren't even in the same galaxy as far as I'm concerned. The bronco is better for rock crawling and that's it.
I have the Bad Lands w/Sasquatch package, and I out pulled my brothers Ram TRX with the same 35" tires. The Bronco has an incredible drive train/ power transfer ratio. That was in the dirt, on the road was a different issue. The Bronco gave him a good fight, but the towing capacity of the TRX won in the end.
First tires, then bronco flat and defender uphill, then position of the rope side vs middle, the driver in defender puts the pedal to the metall, wich is bad for towing/tugging. Put any car im that position and it will winn.
Defender performed too good with those tyres and also there is a little slope upside against Defender and downside towards Bronco.(this may be camera angle)
300 pounds heavier and better tires not surprising. What is surprising is that the bronco is 300 pounds heavier. Now race them and see how it goes for the Bronco. Also, I don’t think you know what practical means.
Fare play....set up for the broco to win there with the traction, much better tyres. Like someone running in massive wellies compared to bare feet ....who's going to win? All about what connects the vehicle to the road so it can transfer the potential properly. That said I hate the new defenders.
As always Amazing Review, loved how Bronco was able to pull defender. But it had better off road tires than the Defender. Bronco for Every Day. Defender for every day Visit to Dealer Service Center.
If the defender had off road tires it would easily pull the bronco as this shows having a better tire for snow is important and shows what are the difference
It is interesting everyone is complaining about the tires when that is what the cars came with from the factory. They are comparing two stock/ factory cars. Maybe if the Defender is built for the off-road, Land Rover should have issued them with better off-road tires. Just a thought.
They are just butt hurt fanbois, the higher spec'd Land Rover comes with 19+ inch wheels only from factory, noone with half a brain goes offroad with low profile tires.
Defender is made for the kardashians lol, bronco is rugged real off roader thats tough while the defender will breakdown at 60k with costly repairs 😅 watch Doug Demuro on how many times his defender broke down and TFL Chanel
@@saltyfloridaman7163 Weird, my neighbors Touareg does extremely well in inclement weather even without proper snow tires. I consider the Touareg a beast and truly an underrated off road vehicle. I can’t speak to if it would win or lose but I’m still interested to see how it would do nonetheless.
@@saltyfloridaman7163 Sounds good...Well lets get a Touareg with some proper winter tires and allow both drivers to properly modulate the throttle to see who would win a tug of war battle lol.
It looks like the Defender is on an uphill Incline slightly . Surely you could have done this test on level ground. Even a slight uphill trajectory off the start makes a big difference. Not very professional ! Setup
The Defender just have center locking diff. Which can result in just one wheel is driven on each axle. And 35 inch tires can’t be fitted on the Defender.
🎆🎆🎆Both Cars are great, but one will spend more time on the road, where the other will spend more time at Dealer Service Center. I'll leave the rest for you to decide which one. Let the comments war began.🎆🎆🎆
It would have been nice to see the vehicles switch positions, the Defender was on an incline while the Bronco on more flat surface. I think that could have been the difference!
@@SamCarLegion and you know this for a fact? If you read any of the comments you will see that you just proved nothing it's like you did a tug of war with 2 defenders and one had road tires and other had offroad tires.....the offroad tires will clearly win, if you want to compare these 2 cars however put the same tires on both cars then see the result....also it should be level terrain....the slopes is just another variable that doesn't make sense....
I'm not surprised to see that the bronco comes with thicker tires. In addition to the driver of the defender just go full throttle without moderating the acceleration. Another problem is that the defense is on the rise and bronco is on the way down, which gives the bronco an advantage there
This is totally BS Fit the Defender with decent off road tyres, and a tow bar, so that it can pull from the centre rear of the vehicle. The result would then be completely different
I’m staggered at how few people understand the concept of conducting a fair test. 1. An even surface for both vehicles. 2. Must have the same tyres. 3 like for like. I’ve seen a previous comparison between a small capacity vehicle versus a large capacity, diesel v petrol. Until that happens these comparisons are of little value to anyone watching.
It's a stock on stock comparison not Ford's fault that Ford gives the Bronco fat tyres and a tow hook from stock Edit: Not the channel's fault either it is Landy's fault.
@@vanderz1012 totally agree on your points it's ridiculous. Which beggars the question as to why you need to have the landy pulling up hill with a bellend who just floors it !! Which is what I'm referring to 😉
not a fair tug of war, defender had the wrong tires plus it was on an incline...perhaps a better even flat surface with the same tires would be a much better comparison and fair tug of war for both cars otherwise you could have a nissan patrol or even a range rover or jeep or a land cruiser with those same tires as the defender has and the result would be the same.
@@SamCarLegion i agree with you 100% some of these cars are extremely off road kings however for one to get them to that condition you have to spend abit more on a car that is already much much more expensive than the bronco, with that in mind i agree the bronco in this test right off the showroom floor is better value for money than the defender
I am a Land Rover fan but loathe the new Discovery Utility named Defender. However, the Defender was at a disadvantage. Tyres and the fact it was also having to battle up hill and not on the level. P.S. Such a shane the Bronco will never be right hand drive and available here in the UK, I would have the Bronco every day over the new Land Rover.
Several things wrong here really the tyres are not an even match also I dont know why you would put the tow rope on the side of the motor as that will pull the car sideways also the person driving the defender seems rather useless
Put those on dry ground. And when it comes to offroading the Landrover isn't just for looks it is completely one-hundred-percent technological Offroad vehicle and the Ford is just for trying to release something with a different body that everyone's been waiting for
Bronco by far technologically superior to Defender in terms of off-road capabilities. Ford designed Bronco from scratch to compete with Jeep Wrangler. On contrary Land Rover redesigned legendary 4x4 to fit into soccer moms market segment. Since when dry ground has anything to do with off-road performance? Frankly, at highway speeds Bronco feels by FAR better than Defender.
Doesn’t see like a fair comparison to me so since y’all what to do it that way just do the same test on pavement with the V8 carpathian model defender and the eco boost V6 bronco. Then we can see and hear the difference.
@@SamCarLegionHi Sam The Defender was on 20 inch alloys with poor off road tires as opposed to 35's and better tires, try the defender with 18 inch steel and the same tires as the bronco and watch the result especially if it had the electronic diff fitted which if you intended to go off road you would have. Let all things be equal the see the result.
@@garylowe6507 Defender doesn’t come with same tires as the Bronco, unless you buy non OEM tires, so where can we find same tires for the Defender where Land Rover themselves don’t
@@SamCarLegion Hi Sam the tires you had on the Defender are not the best OEM tires, these would be the Goodyear Dura Trac still not the best i agree plus the P400 would not be the Best Defender model for this either. The result was too one sided mainly due to the wheel and tire set up there are other factors like the electronic diff but the wheel size and tires out weigh everything else. Its a bit like putting a 2.0 Supra in one of the drag races instead of the 3.0 same vehicle different result.
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Not surprised that the Bronco won with its much chunkier tires. This just shows us that the tires on a 4x4 mean more than all the power and offroad tech these trucks have.
Exactly
I did exactly this with my defender and my cousis's bronco.
Mine had the proper offroad tyres and surface was grass.
Both had top of the engines and i beat that Bronco easily
AMERICA WINS LIKE ALWAYS
@@cmtexperts4825we are talking stock here buddy
@@cmtexperts4825 the VIN of your defender?
On slippery surfaces 99% of this test is based on the tires performance. We arent really seeing anything about vehicle capability here. I love the drag races and car reviews. This stuff is like a tesla gimmick to me though.
They should do it on pavement as that shows alot of different from theses two
@@coolsquad7428 Shouldnt do it at all really it proves absolutely nothing. On pavement you would have to be dumb to let them do this. Its a great way to overheat a transmission or have a torque converter start slipping. Its a childish pissing contest. Just see who can hang the bigger pair of truck nuts off of their towing hitch. That will give just as accurate results.
@@boost331 😂😂
Agreed
What’s the “Tesla gimmick”?
Maybe it was the camera position but the surface slope was not even and was slant in favor of the Bronco so it was hardly a real test for me.
Tires and terrain. Unfair match dude
@The Official JoelPlay's Even the terrain is better for the Bronco. Everyone can see it.
@@LeonelBrito not true at all he’s completely correct about the tires. But they are very similar vehicles
Nah also the defender is drifting around because it’s not built as well for off roading
It's driver issue. he brakes in defender
In bronco he aint
Any chance you could do this again. With similar tyres.
Also to make it really fair, put a tow bar on the defender so the rope attaches in the middle so it pulls straight and sideways .
And let the defender have a go at the downhill part.
Other than that a perfectly fair tug of war.
The rope angle actually benefits the Defender
As well, The point of these types of videos typically are about their capabilities straight out of the factory…..which includes tires.
Yeah, I really want a rematch with same tires.
But you gotta understand that he is comparing vehicles as spec'd by the OEM. If they were to add tires, bar as you mentioned.
Them someone one could easily just point at the Serious HP advantage the defender has. Defender 518 to Bronco 315.
Where does it stop...? When you literally have 2 identical vehicles (just to make sure 1 doesn't have an unfair advantage).
Level ground World also be better.
I'm most impressed with the strength of the yellow strap...
Why? Its not pulling that much weight.
@@cesarpalmos8235 Really? How about we strap your wrists/hands to each bumper and see how well you do...
A basic Walmart tow strap that size is rated for 8,000 lbs, or 4 tons. By law, most equipment is rated to half of its actual breaking point for safety. For example, a 5 ton jack can actually lift 10 tons before failure. The Defender's dry weight is 5,700lbs, with equipment and a man driving, it is likely around 6,000 lbs in this video. Remember the slippery conditions can hinder the pulling power of a vehicle. All the strap has to do is overcome the weight of the loosing vehicle, which is 6,000lbs. However, considering the strap is not holding up the vehicle and the slippery conditions, it could be pulling just 3,000-4,000 lbs. That is why I said "it is not pulling that much weight" COMPARED to its capabilities. Now, may I ask why you would strap a person to two opposing vehicles when a human has no where the capabilities of a basic Walmart tow strap?
Love both vehicles. But not a true comparison. Tyres & lockers make a HUGE difference. If the Bronco didn't win I would have been shocked
Bronco win OK
@@a1ahp21 neither won as it wasn't an equal comparison.
@@precisionairgunninghunting6265 Plenty of other comparisons between the two. The Bronco beat it multiple times in almost every aspect. Tires and lockers come with the Bronco straight from the factory at a lower cost than the defender.
@@ec3886 but that's besides the point. This was a tug of war where one had a clear advantage. If the spec was reversed then the Defender would have won. Doesn't take rocket science to work that out.
It looks like the Defender is having to pull uphill. Flat ground and tires even down to the driver makes a HUGE difference. I don't think this was a fair tug.
Yes even a kid can also see it
Sure da defender was moving uphill
This is the most inaccurate comparison ever. This not about Ford or Landrover or which has more power or which is a better vehicle - IT'S ABOUT TYRES & GRIP - the guy even says it in the video, then proceeds to bang on about how much better Ford is to Landrover??? How about using the same tyres on both vehicles, oh and is it just me or did everyone else see that the ford gets the snap on every round and starts pulling the Defender backwards before it accelerates??? STOP PUTTING UP INACCRUATE UNFAIR BIASED VIDEOS!!!
Those are the tires that the automakers sell to customers- that makes it fair :)
I love how people get so emotional about it. 😂
Very dubious test, need to do it again with the same tyres and on flat ground without Defender going uphill. Ps the best 4x4 by far..... is the Defender
News broadcast, the Bronco was going up hill plenty in this 4:16, 5:41, 6:51, 7:00, 7:52.😉👍🏼
Having watched this again and as others have commented, using the rear toe eye on the right slews it clockwise as it pulls because the towing force is all in one corner. Do it properly and fairly next time.
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Defender is not a very great offroader you can watch the comparison test done by tfl amd you will know.
You obviously never off road.
The Land Rover is towards uphill. Bronco is towards downhill. Its quite unfair for Land Rover
It's American did you expect anything else 🙄
Why would you not use a flat surface!?
Of course the bronco won, the rover had to pull on an incline. Oy!
I was beginning to think I was the only one seeing that.🧐
You should have switched positions you are going down hill and hes going up. Yes you have better tires but also the better position hence the result 😠😠😠👀👀👀👀👀
The camera makes it look like that
Oooh
Try the same thing on dry pavement or use equivalent tires. The Defender’s wheels are spinning, which reduces grip. I agree the Defender is a better road car and more luxurious.
I always was a Defender Fan, but this time I would choose the Bronco, but with better tires!
A lot of people I see are moaning about the tyres. That's just the thing. You cant get tyres like the Bronco stock on the Defender. If you give the Landy better tyres then it's not a stock on stock comparison. It is neither the channel's nor Fords fault that Land Rover doesn't offer big tread tyres as standard
It isn´t a fair comparison, needs to have the same tires.
Those are the tires that both trucks come with
@@SamCarLegion still doesn't make it fair Broncos also come with smaller too but you didn't use those
I enjoyed it, but, you should have done various competitions, tug a wars, timed mud hill climbing, dry pavement drag race. Actually, I would have preferred an off road, mud hill timed competition the best. Like you said, this just proved who had the best tires.
Good stuff mate. I love how you race review off road , little bit of everything. I know you test what’s given to you but would also agree on tires. None less having front and back lockers makes difference too. And there is also a solid weight advantage here for the Defender and as you know in tug of war helps.
A comment I highly respect- cheers :)
@@SamCarLegion thank you brother! And both just beautiful badass machines. We are very lucky to be living in a great time for cars. Bar keeps getting raised. Cheers and happy new year 🥳🥳
You too bud😺
Fun to watch, but I think this only proves the Bronco comes with better off road tires....and possibly better low end gearing.
Better power delivery.
Yeah, those chucky tires on the Bronco just dug into the ground. No way the Defender was winning that.
Literally what they said in the article and video.
Defender is for me on anyday... that's fantastic one always...😍
Why not just do a tire review? Every response from the OP is "it's fair because those are the tires that came on the car", who cares, you can change tires. Nobody bought a land rover, or bronco, because of the tires and any serious off roader would change the tires to suit the terrain.
This was nothing more than a tire test.
Tires, suspension, 4wd system, mass, throttle response… - I can’t imagine a set of tires would do much on their own.
@@alexs3187 the only bit that comes in to contact with the ground and you "can't imagine a set of tires would do much on their own" 🤣
Dumbass
@@steakandchips9046 clearly you missed the joke. A set of tires on their own.. No car, engine etc. The irony of you calling someone else a dumbass. Projection much? 😂
Clearly, not only do you not understand humor, you don’t understand how suspension tuning and articulation can affect how the tires contact the ground, weight and balance of the vehicle, etc. Yeah buddy, it’s all tires. Just snap on some BFG MT’s on a Mini then 😂
@@alexs3187 you need the same tyres to compare suspension setups DUMBASS
I missed your joke your just toooo funny for me
@@steakandchips9046 not really. I know the independent suspension on a VT Commodore sucks with getting traction to the ground, as the rear tires sit unevenly. Why do I need a particular set of tires to prove that? You’re WRONG again. But your original point was that it’s ONLY the tires that affect any of it, so please stick with that story and don’t try to change it now. 😂
I'm no fanboy of the new defender, but if I'm going by manufacturer provided specs, I'd pick the defender 9 times out of 10 over the bronco. The gvwr and towing capacity alone completely outclass the bronco. It's not even close. These 2 vehicles aren't even in the same galaxy as far as I'm concerned. The bronco is better for rock crawling and that's it.
I have the Bad Lands w/Sasquatch package, and I out pulled my brothers Ram TRX with the same 35" tires. The Bronco has an incredible drive train/ power transfer ratio. That was in the dirt, on the road was a different issue. The Bronco gave him a good fight, but the towing capacity of the TRX won in the end.
Tires are everything make it right by putting the same tires on both vehicles
I've seen a 2wd with snow tyres out perform a 4wd......tyres are always the difference
Agreed. Also looks like the Defender is on an uphill slope compared to the Bronco
Basic physics murdered here. The knot should be on center of Defender not to one side .
If the Bronco is going to win let it be a fair Tug on Even grounds and Same tires on both SUVs.
Wow bronco💪🏾
Now do this test on dry tarmac
anyway I always love LAND ROVER ❤❤
the fact that people still comment that its the tires after this man clearly stated that during the pull.
🤣🤣🤦🏽♂️ common sense is free yall
The Defender is going uphill.
The bronco was moving before they even started
I love Land rover Defender 💙💙💙💙💙
Why didn't you swap sides each time?
You guys do realize the Bronco comes with beefier 🥩 tires right? Had it been both 🚙 suvs on similar tires results would have been different
Love it. Thanks. The difference is the cost!
First tires, then bronco flat and defender uphill, then position of the rope side vs middle, the driver in defender puts the pedal to the metall, wich is bad for towing/tugging. Put any car im that position and it will winn.
It's a matter of tyres and weight. The heavier your car the better is gonna do it in this kind of tests.
The defender lost get over it
Both were going up hills
And for those who saying tires are not fair while this is stoke form buddy
That was very entertaining! 😂 however, how good is that on either cars engine😮? Thanks guys that was awesome!
The land Rover was given a more than fair chance being tied higher. The Bronco was being pulled up while the defender was being pulled down.
Fake test! Bronco with way better tires, inclination, and everytime the Defender pulls the guy stops!
Defender performed too good with those tyres and also there is a little slope upside against Defender and downside towards Bronco.(this may be camera angle)
300 pounds heavier and better tires not surprising. What is surprising is that the bronco is 300 pounds heavier. Now race them and see how it goes for the Bronco. Also, I don’t think you know what practical means.
Fare play....set up for the broco to win there with the traction, much better tyres. Like someone running in massive wellies compared to bare feet ....who's going to win? All about what connects the vehicle to the road so it can transfer the potential properly. That said I hate the new defenders.
Bronco in every war be like: 🥱🥱
Foreal bro.
As always Amazing Review, loved how Bronco was able to pull defender. But it had better off road tires than the Defender. Bronco for Every Day. Defender for every day Visit to Dealer Service Center.
If the defender had off road tires it would easily pull the bronco as this shows having a better tire for snow is important and shows what are the difference
Nah…
@@coolsquad7428 Totally agree
I know people Love to Hate on LR but I think you'll find Ford are having more issues with the new Bronco than LR are having with the Defender👀
@@cameronmurray3039 yeah
It is interesting everyone is complaining about the tires when that is what the cars came with from the factory. They are comparing two stock/ factory cars. Maybe if the Defender is built for the off-road, Land Rover should have issued them with better off-road tires. Just a thought.
They are just butt hurt fanbois, the higher spec'd Land Rover comes with 19+ inch wheels only from factory, noone with half a brain goes offroad with low profile tires.
Why is the defender going uphill?
Defender is made for the kardashians lol, bronco is rugged real off roader thats tough while the defender will breakdown at 60k with costly repairs 😅 watch Doug Demuro on how many times his defender broke down and TFL Chanel
It’s seems like LR fans are in serious denial and cannot get over the fact that Land Rover redesigned Defender to fit into different market segment.
Next; Bronco vs Wrangler Tug of War please
Driving skill matters 💯💯💀💀 Defender 👿👿
Curious to see how an 07/08 VW Touareg V8 would match up against that Bronco.
@@saltyfloridaman7163 Weird, my neighbors Touareg does extremely well in inclement weather even without proper snow tires. I consider the Touareg a beast and truly an underrated off road vehicle.
I can’t speak to if it would win or lose but I’m still interested to see how it would do nonetheless.
@@saltyfloridaman7163 Sounds good...Well lets get a Touareg with some proper winter tires and allow both drivers to properly modulate the throttle to see who would win a tug of war battle lol.
@@saltyfloridaman7163 True, I forgot the Touareg has Rear locking diffs and I believe some versions came with rear and center locking differentials.
@@saltyfloridaman7163 True
The real question is what is Land Rover thinking about by not offering an 18” true off-road tire package as an option.
Land Rover is thinking different clientele. Something LR fans try to deny.
American civil war. British car vs American car. Bronco is a beast, Defender is a number…….its obvious bronco weight is heavyweight champion
Now swap sides and go again, the defender is pulling up a slope. Also tyres and curb weight play a massive role in this.
Needs to be done on an even surface with the same tires.
Once again, a tug of war proves nothing, its throttle input and tires not the vehicle.
It looks like the Defender is on an uphill Incline slightly . Surely you could have done this test on level ground. Even a slight uphill trajectory off the start makes a big difference. Not very professional ! Setup
The Defender just have center locking diff. Which can result in just one wheel is driven on each axle. And 35 inch tires can’t be fitted on the Defender.
LOL this should be titled tire performance. This is more about grip and I'm glad you guys realize it.
🎆🎆🎆Both Cars are great, but one will spend more time on the road, where the other will spend more time at Dealer Service Center. I'll leave the rest for you to decide which one. Let the comments war began.🎆🎆🎆
Bronco ftw
Why hook to offset tow hooks? Towbar would be better.
You expect fair play from this asshole ?
It would have been nice to see the vehicles switch positions, the Defender was on an incline while the Bronco on more flat surface. I think that could have been the difference!
No difference guaranteed
@@SamCarLegion and you know this for a fact? If you read any of the comments you will see that you just proved nothing it's like you did a tug of war with 2 defenders and one had road tires and other had offroad tires.....the offroad tires will clearly win, if you want to compare these 2 cars however put the same tires on both cars then see the result....also it should be level terrain....the slopes is just another variable that doesn't make sense....
@@SamCarLegion Ahh that's why you didn't swop I thought it was because you're a biased American who needs to prove your stuff is better by cheating.
Bit unfair as disco was on an inclined slope
I'm not surprised to see that the bronco comes with thicker tires. In addition to the driver of the defender just go full throttle without moderating the acceleration. Another problem is that the defense is on the rise and bronco is on the way down, which gives the bronco an advantage there
Whats the point of this kind of tug of wars? Put exact same tires on both truck and make equal conditions…
Do you have 2800$ dollars to buy them? Because Land Rover doesn’t offer same tires
This is totally BS
Fit the Defender with decent off road tyres, and a tow bar, so that it can pull from the centre rear of the vehicle.
The result would then be completely different
what tires brand/ model you got here on Bronco?
It's the tires.
Man that looks so fun!
I’m staggered at how few people understand the concept of conducting a fair test. 1. An even surface for both vehicles. 2. Must have the same tyres. 3 like for like. I’ve seen a previous comparison between a small capacity vehicle versus a large capacity, diesel v petrol. Until that happens these comparisons are of little value to anyone watching.
When you need to use every advantage possible in your favour it only proves one thing YOU FEAR THE COMPETITION
It's a stock on stock comparison not Ford's fault that Ford gives the Bronco fat tyres and a tow hook from stock
Edit: Not the channel's fault either it is Landy's fault.
@@vanderz1012 totally agree on your points it's ridiculous.
Which beggars the question as to why you need to have the landy pulling up hill with a bellend who just floors it !!
Which is what I'm referring to 😉
Cool, always wanted to see a tire traction test!
not a fair tug of war, defender had the wrong tires plus it was on an incline...perhaps a better even flat surface with the same tires would be a much better comparison and fair tug of war for both cars otherwise you could have a nissan patrol or even a range rover or jeep or a land cruiser with those same tires as the defender has and the result would be the same.
Defender had the tires it’s sold with. Both cars are press cars fully loaded
@@SamCarLegion i agree with you 100% some of these cars are extremely off road kings however for one to get them to that condition you have to spend abit more on a car that is already much much more expensive than the bronco, with that in mind i agree the bronco in this test right off the showroom floor is better value for money than the defender
The Bronco is battling going UPHILL!! Who setup this unfair course?
Most unfair test, the tiers, attach point for defender are all unfair.
To be equal they need same playing field.
Great video Sam
I am a Land Rover fan but loathe the new Discovery Utility named Defender. However, the Defender was at a disadvantage. Tyres and the fact it was also having to battle up hill and not on the level.
P.S. Such a shane the Bronco will never be right hand drive and available here in the UK, I would have the Bronco every day over the new Land Rover.
Several things wrong here really the tyres are not an even match also I dont know why you would put the tow rope on the side of the motor as that will pull the car sideways also the person driving the defender seems rather useless
The Bronco model with the smaller engine and the manual granny gear should be put to the test with something as well!!
So the bronco can only compete downhill against another vehicle on slicks.... Ok
Shame the bronco not coming to the UK.
Put those on dry ground. And when it comes to offroading the Landrover isn't just for looks it is completely one-hundred-percent technological Offroad vehicle and the Ford is just for trying to release something with a different body that everyone's been waiting for
Bronco by far technologically superior to Defender in terms of off-road capabilities.
Ford designed Bronco from scratch to compete with Jeep Wrangler. On contrary Land Rover redesigned legendary 4x4 to fit into soccer moms market segment.
Since when dry ground has anything to do with off-road performance? Frankly, at highway speeds Bronco feels by FAR better than Defender.
Doesn’t see like a fair comparison to me so since y’all what to do it that way just do the same test on pavement with the V8 carpathian model defender and the eco boost V6 bronco. Then we can see and hear the difference.
Are they on an uneven ground?
Yes
@@SamCarLegion that's funny on another comment you say it's camera angle??
Which is it cheat
Jeez. Could it be any more one sided! Swap sides, the Defender is pulling uphill at the start, the Bronco downhill???
When both are giving race it's a tie.
But defender guy is again and again pressing brakes
Tires matters. Period.
i think this has shown us what we already know tyres make the difference
Not just tires
@@SamCarLegionHi Sam The Defender was on 20 inch alloys with poor off road tires as opposed to 35's and better tires, try the defender with 18 inch steel and the same tires as the bronco and watch the result especially if it had the electronic diff fitted which if you intended to go off road you would have. Let all things be equal the see the result.
@@garylowe6507 Defender doesn’t come with same tires as the Bronco, unless you buy non
OEM tires, so where can we find same tires for the Defender where Land Rover themselves don’t
@@SamCarLegion Hi Sam the tires you had on the Defender are not the best OEM tires, these would be the Goodyear Dura Trac still not the best i agree plus the P400 would not be the Best Defender model for this either. The result was too one sided mainly due to the wheel and tire set up there are other factors like the electronic diff but the wheel size and tires out weigh everything else. Its a bit like putting a 2.0 Supra in one of the drag races instead of the 3.0 same vehicle different result.
@@SamCarLegion don't talk like a tool
The defender was ever pulling up hill, maybe that's because land rover didn't come with a flat peace of land 😂
Awesome!
One is designed to drive kids to school between auto service department stops. The other is a Bronco.
What about a towing test with 4 adults and towing 7000lb plus a drag race just for fun.
Yes!…l Love this channel!
Same tyres. Down hill like the Bronco different story.
Not just tires - power delivery
@@SamCarLegion agree but if we put the foot in the same shoes then it's fair to see the cars different engine outputs.
All other things equal, better off road tires = better off road traction
I don’t understand how I missed this battle
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