I like the fact the FCA has answered everyone’s request with Jeeps. People started converting Wranglers to diesel, they gave us a diesel variant. People started converting Wranglers to V8, they gave us the 392. Thank you Italian FCA for giving us American Muscle.
Yes, but all we wanted was an available 5.7 as a regular option. And the the Gladiator needs it. And they give us a near unattainable specialty Wrangler at an also unattainable price.
@@hellkitty1014 i’m talking about real world prices also i can easily order a bronco raptor just will have to wait a while so my point stands and it clearly says the jeep start at $79,995 so let’s say $80,000 and then bronco raptor starts at $68,500 so about $69,000 which is around $11,000.
@@samw2431 expect you can’t order one. Called all 5 dealers around me and all of them said Ford is sold out of Bronco Raptors and it will be a 12+ month wait on getting one. So yeah, real world price on Bronco is 100k+. On the flip side you can actually order the 392 3% under invoice at a few dealers, so it’s around 79k with the Recon package.
I think we all knew the 392 would come out on top, that thing is fast! But I still think most Jeep guys would take a 5.7 Wrangler for 1/2 the price. You know, the Wrangler they refuse to build. The 4xe and ecodiesel are still my current favorite Jeeps. My favorite Bronco is the base 2 door manual with Sasquatch.
@@MariuszChr yes, Mopar makes us pay dearly to enter the world of Hellcat! LOL! But they're smart and they know they will get it since they're the last American OEM still doing a wide array of high-performance V8.
I agree, I’ve had so many more fords than jeeps, my first car was a 1959 f350, and I still have it. But my choice here is that 392 wrangler, no question. I love that bronco, but a straight axle V8 will always have my heart, just like my WJ and my OBS. That 392 is so perfect!!
As a Ford guy I really like the 392 Jeep.Can't help it just something about good old fashion sound of a V8 and the simplicity against a V6 twin turbo anything.
As jeep 392 owner not gonna lie I had my eye on the bronco which would probably do better High speed off roading. But I’m not doing much of that in Ga. But flooring it from a red light, and hitting the gas under bridges. Makes it all worth it.
Since you guys have this runway to use, could you start testing the maximum speed vehicles can go in reverse? You know, for scientific purposes, of course.
Not going to lie, I was going to say that it wasn’t long enough to determine max speeds until I read ‘reverse’ and busted out laughing. Completely concur.
The V8 for sure sounds better but coming from a ( 5.3 V8 - Tuned ) to my now ( 3.5 Ecoboost tuned ) , I'll take my 3.5 Eco any day over the 5.3 V8 , low end power can't be matched period but at the end of the day , yea the V8 "sounds" good
@@BlettzaHrekleW exactly these are off-roaders not super/hyper cars, so Idc about which is faster or has the better sound... I'll like it to do it's job at its best, and we all know which one's the better off-roader
@@Slainself I’m not sure if you’re implying the bronco is better off road, but go ahead take a bronco up a rock hill. Just make sure you don’t need your axle that day!😂 just jokes but really the broncos are trash off-road
I thought so too. But when we're on a trail in the mountains, it's really nice to be quiet. A 6 cylinder jeep is louder than mine when the exhaust is turned down.
I’m a JLU owner. The 4XE isn’t quick and way overrated. It only has a 21 mile electric range and tops out at 99mph. Look it up if you don’t believe me.
@@CultigenCult I have a 4xe and my dad has a 392. 4xe is way better for the price if you ask me. I drive less than 20 miles a day so its perfect. You also get 7.5k off bc its electric
It was so satisfying watching a normally aspirated 392 Stock V8 totally destroy Twin Turbocharged Garbage in its own element a mile above sea level ! No replacement for displacement V6 bitches !
The margin of victory would be greater at a lower altitude. But I think the majority of margin to be had was prominently displayed here. It wasn't even close.
Pretty sure there’s a problem in these drag races with the Bronco; they aren’t setting the car to Baja mode. For reference, all Baja mode is, is all the settings on the car cranked to max while having 4H on. So if they can just set it to Baja, then select 2H on the drive select, the cars will be in the equivalent of Sport mode, and can hit their best possible 0-60 times (although it’s prob not going to be that different, just ensures things are as tightly controlled for as possible).
On 11-30-2020 I ordered my first ever Jeep. A 2021 JL Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. I ordered it with the 3.6 liter V-6 and 8 speed automatic transmission. 2 weeks later the 392 Rubicon was announced and then shortly thereafter that they announced the extreme recon package. I was so bummed when they did that because mine was already on order. I love my Jeep but hate the eTorque. I didn’t know anything about it but once my Jeep came in it ended up being the only thing about my Jeep that I hate. As a result, I ordered a 2023 JL Jeep Wrangler 392 Unlimited Rubicon with the extreme recon package yesterday, on 07-20-2022. The dealership is here in Colorado and has been giving me special pricing and they are giving me a crazy good deal on my 2021 JLUR. So it’s a win win for me and them both. Once my 392 comes in I will be giddier than a nun in a cucumber patch!
4.5 seconds to 60mph at sea level and mid to high 12s in the quarter mile. It will actually hit the speed governor before finishing the quarter unfortunately.
I'm so confused why people keep saying let's see the Raptor vs 392 in the whoops and desert running. When did Jeep start being marketed as a desert runner? Everyone should know that Jeeps are known for rock crawling.
True, but the longer wheel base of the jeep smooths out bumps a touch more and really does react well to suspension upgrades and proper tires. All it takes is time and money, money can fix issues and you can go as fast as you can afford.
Only Jeep guys could be proud that their engine bested one literally half it's size 🙃 good thing too, the engine is the only thing that piece of shit Jeep has left over the Bronco.
@@spacebound1969 I’m not a jeep guy and I would have taken the wrangler even if it was the slowest here just for the V8 sound alone. The Bronco is begging for a engine swap.
Unfortunately I don’t think it will ever happen. Not the current market for ford. The people buying them are the ones that want the pus 3.0 that gets 25mpg but blows up at 80k miles
Huge mistake by Ford leadership. The Bronco should have been designed to offer a 5.0 Coyote engine option. The response would have overwhelming because of the nostalgia factor alone. The fuel mileage would have been extremely close to the current 3.0 V6 EcoJunk.
@@JasonParham83 The XR is faster than the regular 392. The regular 392 has 3:73 rear end. The XR has 4:56 gears. It’s more than enough to make up for the larger tires.
Broncos 4.70 on the raptor and squatch. And the jeeps tires make no damn difference here. Swapping out the tires on the bronco would've been easy with them both there.
As we all said upon the Bronco's release. Why no 5.0? I am sure the government applies pressure and/or provides subsidies to vehicle manufacturers to assist in getting rid of V8 engines, and to cripple aftermarket performance by making the vehicles nearly impossible to tune, including reporting modifications to home base. Hopefully the pendulum will swing back to us, as it has in the past. Thanks for the awesome video!
The saying is, has been, and probably always will be..."THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT" . Fully electric vehicles are quick for a while ... until they get low on voltage. And fueling them up to 100 % can take up to several hour hours on a faster charger or even days on a slow charger. Fueling a gas engine takes minutes.
It would be awesome if Ram would drop the 392 with those numbers in a Ram 1500! Quicker and hauls more than a 5.7 Ram but not quite a trx. Maybe make it the motor for the rebel!!
So it would be interesting to see the 4xe in there. All the vehicles are impacted by the altitude (I was initially surprised at the 392 time I saw when I skipped ahead until I remembered this was Colorado), but since part of the 4xe is electric, it may not be impacted by the altitude as much so may be closer to the 392 time than it usually is.
I really wanted a Bronco, but Ford and their PR guys somehow managed to make me into a jeep guy. RIP my 2 door bronco order that *might* get built in 2023. Yeah. 2023. Maybe.
@@ImTaintedSaint off-road + is a little aggressive for normal driving….but awesome when you want it. Our Mojave has it and you have to be in 4w auto to use it but my 392 is full time 4wd so it can be used all the time.
Hi great job as usual. The matchup I'd like to see is the Rubicon 4xe vs Bronco Raptor, I think that race would be a good one. Also I have discoverd 4 high auto mode in the 4xe removes the torque management off the line. You can foot brake it and it launches really good. Please try it next time.
My wife and I each have Broncos! A base model for her and a Sasquatch for me….both have the 2.7L ….we drove Jeeps also and the Bronco really out shines the Jeep with road manors! …..the Bronco really handles well and drives like a car…you’d never know 35” tires were underneath your feet. I just installed a tuner on my bronco and wow did it really wake it up! Haven’t done any acceleration testing buts it’s definitely much better. Been reading with a tuner , exhaust and intake …the 2.7 bronco will easily hit the 6 second zone for 0-60 times….. So ya maybe spend $1500 to knock off 3 seconds …still cheaper than a raptor or 392 jeep.
It would be nice if the Jeep was actually launched correctly because it would have been faster. Needs to be on off road + mode. It also has a launch mode called Torque reserve that you use in conjunction with off road + (or without) by pumping the brakes a couple time then holding and rev to 2500rpm and hold. You will notice a distinct engine note change then mash it and away you go!
I was not aware of the torque reserve, and the off road + mode is kind of named poorly if entirely usable on pavement. I know it adjusts fueling and shift points, I suppose it should just be sport mode. I agree it could've been a bit faster although the high altitude is still holding it back some.
@@ImTaintedSaint thanks for the reply. Off-road + is totally safe on pavement. It’s noticeably faster and a lot louder. The manual could certainly explain it better that is for sure. Great video. I was honestly surprised that the Raptor was so much slower. Then again drag racing these beasts on the street is not their intended purpose but it’s still hilarious fun.
If you just want the races, here you go 😁 : First Edition Bronco VS Bronco Raptor - 4:09 Wrangler 392 VS Bronco Raptor - 9:54 And the results are at 15:48
Throwing a Magnusson supercharger on my Mojave. It won't make 392 power but it'll best the 5.7. Supercharging the 3.6 is the best of both worlds, as I live in Denver the forced air is better than NA.
@@mattbrew11 I ruminated over trading my Mojave for the diesel but ultimately I figured Supercharging a gasser was better than tuning a diesel given that I live at altitude. I also really love my Mojave. Given what I know now about 37's on a 3.6L, I'd probably have opted for the diesel from the start. But we live and we learn.
I love that Jeep has competition now. The Bronco came, they had to do a 392. Now Ford has to innovate and brought the Bronco Raptor. Best part, as they battle it out, we all win!
The only bad thing is the crazier these stock production vehicles get right off the lot, the more the price goes up and more dealers mark them up. All this new awesome exciting innovation and new things companies haven’t done before comes at a price and that is the price itself rising and rising, not to mention the way the economy and world is right now as well.
@@andyham6094 I agree 100%. I'm in Southeast Michigan, so I got my Bronco with A plan because of all the competition of dealers. Until supply chains are get back under control, which isn't anytime soon, we are going to keep seeing this. Just like Yeezy's and PS5's. Just the price to be first.
The 5.0 Coyote engine is extremely fat, too fat n my opinion. Although heavy the 7.3 L Godzilla is much skinnier and fits easily into a Fox body. The old 3.5 L Raptor engine or plain old ordinary Gen II 3.5 L EcoBoost with a tune might be a beauty way to go also, and would give you massive power in a fairly compact unit.
@@CJColvin ; They are all EcoBoost engines, just different generations and displacement. The 3.5 V-6 in the Ford GT is an EcoBoost and makes about 650 hp.
392 sounds so good. A V8 Jeep that sounds like that is what dreams are made of. Bronco Raptor is very impressive overall though. Can’t wait to see supercharged coyote builds.
I love the 2 door bronco. Not a fan of the 4 door bronco. I wished the back window rolled down like my 94 does and the new Bronco should have a V8 not a ball of yarn under the hood.
@@adrianmartin3401 That 2.7 has been pushing fullsize f-150s around for seven years now. They are very well built and reliable. Compacted graphite iron block.And the quickest engine of the bunch. They hold extremely well
Superpower V10 Raptor 2 door Bronco Mid-engine concept starts 92G Supercharged. That 392 is a beast had it in my Power Wagon very quick 2 a 100Mph. Off road my thought is definitely fuel injection, no supercharger lag or turbo lag for you to feel. Just based on me buying 2021 Cummins 6.7 Diesel after the Power Wagon, there is some getting used to turbo power. I got the HO 1075 tq so it is sketch driving in the rain as well as the power Wagon that was sketch but you felt the power curve and not the boost effect. boost effect can crash you in a big way lol
They're fundamentally different though. Jeep never markets the wrangler as a baja runner. Ever. It's a rock crawler through & through. I imagine the jeep is as good at rock crawling as the bronco is at baja
You can put all the hair dryers on a puny engine that you want, but at the end of the day, there is NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT. And the 392 looks better and definitely sounds better. Hey Jeep..... 392 Gladiator please.
I would like to see the Wrangler and Raptor go through a technical whoop section, then dive into a nice G out, before launching over a roller. HP doesn’t mean anything if you can’t go fast over terrain.
The bronco raptor was not meant to be a quarter mile dominator. It was meant much like the original raptor F-150 to be a Baja desert runner. It means having a suspension that can handle the desert woops at speed, a drivetrain that can handle all the jarring around, and performance for you to go quick, and the build quality to keep it from falling apart. It was meant to be more of a desert runner, and still a great off-road rock climber. If they were looking at just being fast in a bronco, they wouldn't have chosen 37 in heavy tires, and a wider track that adds weight
But a Wrangler wasn't designed to go over whoops at high speeds, so what would be the point of that. Wranglers are made to tackle any terrain and rock crawl. The Bronco is designed to do well in the whoops and to be able to rock crawl.
I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but the Ford 10-speed has a sport mode if you pull the shifter all the way back. It's like the VW 5-speed from year's ago.
No replacement for displacement . Forgetting about the win just take a moment and look at either Ford engine presentation vs the Jeep. The Ford's just like they threw it in there and slammed the hood! What a mess of hoses and wires Ford at least an engine cover huh? @ 80k nothing looks special about that the look of either Ford engine .
The hemi just has all the "mess of hoses and wires" hidden under plastic covers. The heat extractors in the hood wouldn't be as efficient with an engine cover.
Nooo I had a 3.5 f150 it was the biggest pile. In the shop 8 times under 45k miles with serious problems! Never EcoBoost especially the 3.5! At least the 5.7 is a proven engine.
Uh ok, how about a run across the desert, which is the actual build purpose of all of these vehicles. Rock crawling as well but that's not really a speed challenge. The desert run would be.
I honestly think even the 4xe would beat the Bronco Raptor in a drag race. Mine is scary quick off the line, and some people have gotten some pretty amazing 0-60 times from them
Does still has the weaker 10r60 behind that 3.0 twin turbo, if they put a stronger transmission behind it the bronco could be quicker off the line with less torque management
All these comments and no one saying they need the same size tires, 35 to 37 inch tires is a huge difference. It was a one second 1/4 mile difference and no mention of settings for either or if they put premium which changes the hp numbers.
Ford dealers seem to be the greediest of all dealers with mark ups on vehicles. Now they have put in a no resale clause on their lightning pickups and a no buy out at end of lease on all their electric vehicle leases.
Looks like you need 5-Star tuning to come to the rescue 😄 I’ve heard they might have the Bronco’s ECU cracked soon. They’ve tuned some nasty 2.7L F-150’s. I would imagine the 10R60 in the Broncos is going to be a bottleneck though. You gotta launch in 2nd gear to alleviate the extreme torque management in 1st.
@@CJColvin your 5.0 won’t tow even a fraction of what the 2.7 will, nor will it get anywhere near the fuel economy. Nowhere near as comfortable. And I’d rather have my family in a new vehicle if we were to crash over that old truck.
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I like the fact the FCA has answered everyone’s request with Jeeps. People started converting Wranglers to diesel, they gave us a diesel variant. People started converting Wranglers to V8, they gave us the 392. Thank you Italian FCA for giving us American Muscle.
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Yes, but all we wanted was an available 5.7 as a regular option. And the the Gladiator needs it.
And they give us a near unattainable specialty Wrangler at an also unattainable price.
They could've put in the 5.7 years ago and been a small jump up in price. What a joke
This comment aged like milk
Since many years ago,that is not FCA,neither PSA,Stellantis is owned by chineses corporation and automotive manufactures....
Look how much happier the wrangler 392 makes everyone who drives it
Until they have to turn after hitting 90 MPH 😜
There is only so much Ecoboosting someone can take!
@@fullspeedfordbronco not everyone can drive jeeps fast 🤷♂️ it takes more skill what can I say 🤷♂️
@@fullspeedfordbronco Lmao okay cause that's what both these vehicles are made for
@@fullspeedfordbronco they governed the engine to like 99 mph😂 would barely have a chance at that scenario
That 392 has a beautiful sound and power wish it was cheaper though. And with bigger tank 😅
LOL right! Bigger tank needed! But it will still work out to be cheaper than the Braptor, with about the same mileage.
@@hellkitty1014 how will it work out to be cheaper than the bronco raptor? it starts at about 11k less?
@@samw2431 right now, the real world price is close to $100K. And MSRP is only $7K less than a 392.
@@hellkitty1014 i’m talking about real world prices also i can easily order a bronco raptor just will have to wait a while so my point stands and it clearly says the jeep start at $79,995 so let’s say $80,000 and then bronco raptor starts at $68,500 so about $69,000 which is around $11,000.
@@samw2431 expect you can’t order one. Called all 5 dealers around me and all of them said Ford is sold out of Bronco Raptors and it will be a 12+ month wait on getting one. So yeah, real world price on Bronco is 100k+. On the flip side you can actually order the 392 3% under invoice at a few dealers, so it’s around 79k with the Recon package.
I think we all knew the 392 would come out on top, that thing is fast! But I still think most Jeep guys would take a 5.7 Wrangler for 1/2 the price. You know, the Wrangler they refuse to build. The 4xe and ecodiesel are still my current favorite Jeeps. My favorite Bronco is the base 2 door manual with Sasquatch.
There is no much price difference between 5.7 vs 6.4 on Charger/Challenger world
$5K at most. There isn't that big of a difference in the price of the V8s, believe it or not.
@@hellkitty1014 yup. Only hellcat is a costly upgrade. 20k from 392 🤯
@@MariuszChr yes, Mopar makes us pay dearly to enter the world of Hellcat! LOL! But they're smart and they know they will get it since they're the last American OEM still doing a wide array of high-performance V8.
@@hellkitty1014 well, they didn't get my money... I saved money buying ScatPack WB, and Camaro ZL1 to get affordable SC V8 :)
Even as a ford guy, I LOVE the 392 wrangler! That thing is so cool. I have no need for a wrangler or bronco, so I'll keep my F150.
I have a 392 and that ford is really really nice.
I agree, I’ve had so many more fords than jeeps, my first car was a 1959 f350, and I still have it. But my choice here is that 392 wrangler, no question. I love that bronco, but a straight axle V8 will always have my heart, just like my WJ and my OBS. That 392 is so perfect!!
Get a Gladiator and drop a 392 in it. 😉
@@phrogusmc wrangler looks nicer
@@Goop56 I disagree. We have a Gladiator and a Wrangler. Both are awesome, but I prefer the Gladiator. Looks great, more versatile, rides better....
As a Ford guy I really like the 392 Jeep.Can't help it just something about good old fashion sound of a V8 and the simplicity against a V6 twin turbo anything.
As jeep 392 owner not gonna lie I had my eye on the bronco which would probably do better High speed off roading. But I’m not doing much of that in Ga. But flooring it from a red light, and hitting the gas under bridges. Makes it all worth it.
@@aaronguyton8638 off of what source?🤣
I was just thinking about the 392 and the Raptor going against each other and here it is! Great races!
Thank you for watching.
That 392 with its beefy arm and consummate Vs, totally burninated the competition.
I see what ya did there. 🤓👍🏻
Since you guys have this runway to use, could you start testing the maximum speed vehicles can go in reverse? You know, for scientific purposes, of course.
Not going to lie, I was going to say that it wasn’t long enough to determine max speeds until I read ‘reverse’ and busted out laughing. Completely concur.
As I understand it, most cars top out around 30-40 in reverse. Engine speed/gear ratio/tire size limited.
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Nathan might do all right in reverse but Andre would roll the thing
What would that prove if I may ask? 🤔
The amount of pure quality and volume of content y'all manage to put together every single day is gold!
Love y'all, thank you!
You mean videos
I love videos like this. The chemistry between the cast is always hilarious too
Yeah the 392 does have a unique exhaust system. It's called a V8👍
The V8 for sure sounds better but coming from a ( 5.3 V8 - Tuned ) to my now ( 3.5 Ecoboost tuned ) , I'll take my 3.5 Eco any day over the 5.3 V8 , low end power can't be matched period but at the end of the day , yea the V8 "sounds" good
@@BlettzaHrekleW exactly these are off-roaders not super/hyper cars, so Idc about which is faster or has the better sound... I'll like it to do it's job at its best, and we all know which one's the better off-roader
@King of Norway ev sucks
@@Slainself I’m not sure if you’re implying the bronco is better off road, but go ahead take a bronco up a rock hill. Just make sure you don’t need your axle that day!😂 just jokes but really the broncos are trash off-road
Special vehicles team at Ford: let's make it wider, more suspension, stiffer chassis, a bit more power...
Special vehicles team at Jeep: 392 go brrrr!
🤣 🤣
😂 but it does have a upgraded suspension, stiffened chassis, and new wheels.
Special vehicles team at jeep don’t worry guys the taxpayers will fund it again 😂
@@JayElement13 - They never lose dodge shouldn’t even exist anymore
They are definitely "special" at Ford
There was no surprise here as to which one would be the fastest. Nothing beats big V8 power.
Amen to that brother.
I gotta say I don't think I would ever turn the exhaust noise down.
I thought so too. But when we're on a trail in the mountains, it's really nice to be quiet. A 6 cylinder jeep is louder than mine when the exhaust is turned down.
That 392 won the race by “some considerable margin.” R. Hammond
Would love to see one with the 4xe as well. I don’t think it would beat the Raptor or 392, but curious how it would compare.
Actually 0-60 no, the 4Xe cannot beat the 392. However, from 25 mph to 75+ mph, look out. The 4Xe is a beast in that range and is a ton of fun.. JMO
I’m a JLU owner. The 4XE isn’t quick and way overrated. It only has a 21 mile electric range and tops out at 99mph. Look it up if you don’t believe me.
@@jasonb4988 what you said makes no sense. O-60 the 392 is quicker which means from 25-75 it’s quicker.
@@CultigenCult I have a 4xe and my dad has a 392. 4xe is way better for the price if you ask me. I drive less than 20 miles a day so its perfect. You also get 7.5k off bc its electric
You'd have to find a woman to loan them one. That's the only people I see driving those
It was so satisfying watching a normally aspirated 392 Stock V8 totally destroy Twin Turbocharged Garbage in its own element a mile above sea level ! No replacement for displacement V6 bitches !
Haha. Now I no why you said “normally” ha
Wait till the electric options come.
"Takes a sec to spool up" exactly why v8 is better
Wow.. Impressed with all vehicles. Especially the Jeep!
Straight V8. Lmao. Nathan is in savage mode.
Now imagine what the 392 would do to the raptor at sea level 😁
It would get stomped
The margin of victory would be greater at a lower altitude. But I think the majority of margin to be had was prominently displayed here. It wasn't even close.
@@kennethelliott5985 you mean the raptor would get stomped right?
Yeah, raptor wouldn’t be a challenge
ha. talking about drag racing two off road trucks…
Pretty sure there’s a problem in these drag races with the Bronco; they aren’t setting the car to Baja mode. For reference, all Baja mode is, is all the settings on the car cranked to max while having 4H on. So if they can just set it to Baja, then select 2H on the drive select, the cars will be in the equivalent of Sport mode, and can hit their best possible 0-60 times (although it’s prob not going to be that different, just ensures things are as tightly controlled for as possible).
On 11-30-2020 I ordered my first ever Jeep. A 2021 JL Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. I ordered it with the 3.6 liter V-6 and 8 speed automatic transmission. 2 weeks later the 392 Rubicon was announced and then shortly thereafter that they announced the extreme recon package. I was so bummed when they did that because mine was already on order. I love my Jeep but hate the eTorque. I didn’t know anything about it but once my Jeep came in it ended up being the only thing about my Jeep that I hate. As a result, I ordered a 2023 JL Jeep Wrangler 392 Unlimited Rubicon with the extreme recon package yesterday, on 07-20-2022. The dealership is here in Colorado and has been giving me special pricing and they are giving me a crazy good deal on my 2021 JLUR. So it’s a win win for me and them both. Once my 392 comes in I will be giddier than a nun in a cucumber patch!
Haha! My old band covered Trogdor the Burninator once. 392 for the win! Imagine if it could actually breathe sea-level air.
They say first he was a man...
He was a...... Dragon mannnn
Or maybe just a dragon...
4.5 seconds to 60mph at sea level and mid to high 12s in the quarter mile. It will actually hit the speed governor before finishing the quarter unfortunately.
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As a person who is in love with Jeeps this video is amazing I love the way the Jeep sounds and how fast it is
I'm so confused why people keep saying let's see the Raptor vs 392 in the whoops and desert running. When did Jeep start being marketed as a desert runner? Everyone should know that Jeeps are known for rock crawling.
True, but the longer wheel base of the jeep smooths out bumps a touch more and really does react well to suspension upgrades and proper tires. All it takes is time and money, money can fix issues and you can go as fast as you can afford.
This comment would have had a little bit of truth to it about 10 years ago lol
Love how you hit the steering wheel after doing the 0-60 in the Bronco Raptor. 🤣 @11:36
Woah woah woah you mean to tell me that the most powerful vehicle by a substantial margin won the race??
Wow, the 392 crushed the Raptor, even at elevation.
Only Jeep guys could be proud that their engine bested one literally half it's size 🙃 good thing too, the engine is the only thing that piece of shit Jeep has left over the Bronco.
Oh and the sound from the nightly v8. So much better than the toy sounding v6 engine.
@@spacebound1969 Well, a TURBOCHARGED engine half it's size, to be accurate....
@@mar7739 that wouldn't support his weak narrative.
Here I'll translate his narrative: waaaaaaaaaaaa
@@spacebound1969 I’m not a jeep guy and I would have taken the wrangler even if it was the slowest here just for the V8 sound alone. The Bronco is begging for a engine swap.
Would love to see a bronco with a 5.0 or the new Windsor motor they are coming out with
Unfortunately I don’t think it will ever happen. Not the current market for ford. The people buying them are the ones that want the pus 3.0 that gets 25mpg but blows up at 80k miles
Huge mistake by Ford leadership. The Bronco should have been designed to offer a 5.0 Coyote engine option. The response would have overwhelming because of the nostalgia factor alone. The fuel mileage would have been extremely close to the current 3.0 V6 EcoJunk.
Don’t care how they lined up, I’m still the most pumped about the Wrangler 392.
Y'all should swap the 37s on the raptor for the 35s from the squatch and see how much time they sap.
The jeep had the LT1 Xtreme recon package. Those 35's aren't standard on the 392. 33's are. So in standard trim the jeep is even faster.
@@JasonParham83 The XR is faster than the regular 392. The regular 392 has 3:73 rear end. The XR has 4:56 gears. It’s more than enough to make up for the larger tires.
@@jaredstrauss617 how does the gearing and tire size of the Bronco Raptor compare?
Broncos 4.70 on the raptor and squatch. And the jeeps tires make no damn difference here. Swapping out the tires on the bronco would've been easy with them both there.
As we all said upon the Bronco's release. Why no 5.0? I am sure the government applies pressure and/or provides subsidies to vehicle manufacturers to assist in getting rid of V8 engines, and to cripple aftermarket performance by making the vehicles nearly impossible to tune, including reporting modifications to home base. Hopefully the pendulum will swing back to us, as it has in the past. Thanks for the awesome video!
As the old saying goes, There’s no replacement for displacement. Not to mention the 392 sounds incredible, way better than ANY augmented V-6.
As they also say, a simple tune would smack any NA V8.
Man that jeep makes that raptor look like a toy. And that sound!!!
Lol, bruh how? The Bronco is bigger in every metric, with even the regular Bronco looking better. Jeep definitely sounds better though.
The saying is, has been, and probably always will be..."THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT" . Fully electric vehicles are quick for a while ... until they get low on voltage. And fueling them up to 100 % can take up to several hour hours on a faster charger or even days on a slow charger. Fueling a gas engine takes minutes.
Thank you for making this video. I decided to get the Raptor, but this video made me go back to the Jeep.
It would be awesome if Ram would drop the 392 with those numbers in a Ram 1500! Quicker and hauls more than a 5.7 Ram but not quite a trx. Maybe make it the motor for the rebel!!
Stop Making Sense
@@robertcawley6543 sorry… It just happens.
So it would be interesting to see the 4xe in there. All the vehicles are impacted by the altitude (I was initially surprised at the 392 time I saw when I skipped ahead until I remembered this was Colorado), but since part of the 4xe is electric, it may not be impacted by the altitude as much so may be closer to the 392 time than it usually is.
I really wanted a Bronco, but Ford and their PR guys somehow managed to make me into a jeep guy.
RIP my 2 door bronco order that *might* get built in 2023.
Yeah. 2023. Maybe.
I have a 392 XR. You needed to use off-road+. Those shifts were way to lazy. You would of done a lot better…it wouldn’t of been as close of a race.
I'm still learning about this thing! I just assumed OffRoad+ was ya know for off road lol It's really just a sport mode.
@@ImTaintedSaint off-road + is a little aggressive for normal driving….but awesome when you want it. Our Mojave has it and you have to be in 4w auto to use it but my 392 is full time 4wd so it can be used all the time.
Just a tune on the ecoboost and it would walk that wrangler with no issues
Hi great job as usual. The matchup I'd like to see is the Rubicon 4xe vs Bronco Raptor, I think that race would be a good one. Also I have discoverd 4 high auto mode in the 4xe removes the torque management off the line. You can foot brake it and it launches really good. Please try it next time.
My wife and I each have Broncos! A base model for her and a Sasquatch for me….both have the 2.7L ….we drove Jeeps also and the Bronco really out shines the Jeep with road manors! …..the Bronco really handles well and drives like a car…you’d never know 35” tires were underneath your feet.
I just installed a tuner on my bronco and wow did it really wake it up! Haven’t done any acceleration testing buts it’s definitely much better.
Been reading with a tuner , exhaust and intake …the 2.7 bronco will easily hit the 6 second zone for 0-60 times…..
So ya maybe spend $1500 to knock off 3 seconds …still cheaper than a raptor or 392 jeep.
It would be nice if the Jeep was actually launched correctly because it would have been faster. Needs to be on off road + mode. It also has a launch mode called Torque reserve that you use in conjunction with off road + (or without) by pumping the brakes a couple time then holding and rev to 2500rpm and hold. You will notice a distinct engine note change then mash it and away you go!
I was not aware of the torque reserve, and the off road + mode is kind of named poorly if entirely usable on pavement. I know it adjusts fueling and shift points, I suppose it should just be sport mode. I agree it could've been a bit faster although the high altitude is still holding it back some.
@@ImTaintedSaint thanks for the reply. Off-road + is totally safe on pavement. It’s noticeably faster and a lot louder. The manual could certainly explain it better that is for sure.
Great video. I was honestly surprised that the Raptor was so much slower. Then again drag racing these beasts on the street is not their intended purpose but it’s still hilarious fun.
If you just want the races, here you go 😁 :
First Edition Bronco VS Bronco Raptor - 4:09
Wrangler 392 VS Bronco Raptor - 9:54
And the results are at 15:48
That damn laugh in the 392🤣
I’d do unspeakable things for that 392 Rubicon 😂
Same!
We need the 392 in a Mojave. Also Trogdor burninates.
Throwing a Magnusson supercharger on my Mojave. It won't make 392 power but it'll best the 5.7. Supercharging the 3.6 is the best of both worlds, as I live in Denver the forced air is better than NA.
I just tuned my diesel jt. It chirps 39s going into 3rd gear 😂
Yes yes he does, the countryside and all the peasants in their thatch roof cottages!
@@mattbrew11 I ruminated over trading my Mojave for the diesel but ultimately I figured Supercharging a gasser was better than tuning a diesel given that I live at altitude. I also really love my Mojave. Given what I know now about 37's on a 3.6L, I'd probably have opted for the diesel from the start. But we live and we learn.
Nice review guys…how much of a time penalty is attributed to the Raptors 37’s would you say? They definitely slow it down vs the 35’s.
But the raptor is running 4.70 axle gears to compensate for those 37’s versus 4.56 on the 392
@@jeanchapman1301 Jean you make a valid argument that the 4.70 offsets the taller gearing resulting from the 37’s.
Video starts at 9:56
First drag race is at 4:15.
I'm More than happy with the 442 lbft of my ecodiesel jt and 32 mpg at 75 on the highway.
Thanks Tfl everyone been waiting for the 392 it's a beast 💪
That Jeep 392 Flys Like A Dragster.
Not really that fast.
@@Propelled Yeah It's Not Too Fast You Would Not Compare It To The Tesla Model S Plaid.
I love that Jeep has competition now. The Bronco came, they had to do a 392. Now Ford has to innovate and brought the Bronco Raptor. Best part, as they battle it out, we all win!
The only bad thing is the crazier these stock production vehicles get right off the lot, the more the price goes up and more dealers mark them up. All this new awesome exciting innovation and new things companies haven’t done before comes at a price and that is the price itself rising and rising, not to mention the way the economy and world is right now as well.
Nobody can afford them though
@@andyham6094 I agree 100%. I'm in Southeast Michigan, so I got my Bronco with A plan because of all the competition of dealers. Until supply chains are get back under control, which isn't anytime soon, we are going to keep seeing this. Just like Yeezy's and PS5's. Just the price to be first.
That 392 Hemi Wrangler sure is a beast.
I don’t own a Dodge but they are my new best friend time for a 5.0 bronco like they should of did in the first place
Exactly mate
The 5.0 Coyote engine is extremely fat, too fat n my opinion.
Although heavy the 7.3 L Godzilla is much skinnier and fits easily into a Fox body.
The old 3.5 L Raptor engine or plain old ordinary Gen II 3.5 L EcoBoost with a tune might be a beauty way to go also, and would give you massive power in a fairly compact unit.
@@Johnnycdrums But EcoBoost engines aren't know for reliability as well.
@@CJColvin ; They are all EcoBoost engines, just different generations and displacement.
The 3.5 V-6 in the Ford GT is an EcoBoost and makes about 650 hp.
@@Johnnycdrums Yeah but they still aren't known for reliability though.
As a 392 owner I thank Ford for forcing Jeep to step up thier game. The Wrangler 392 is a homerun.
392 sounds so good. A V8 Jeep that sounds like that is what dreams are made of. Bronco Raptor is very impressive overall though. Can’t wait to see supercharged coyote builds.
Sucks that it took SOOOO long for dodge to put a v8 in the wrangler.
@@DanE-ew1yt agreed and then they make it super expensive. Couldn’t just give us a 5.7 for the same price as the diesel or something.
This is why l love TFL!
Isn't Trogdor part of Homestarrunner?!? I love it!
Yessir! TROGDORRRR!
RAM really needs to put the 392 into the RAM 1500. Great video as always guys.
They’ve done that before. I know a guy that has one
I agree. It would also be nice if they put the 392 in the Gladiator
That 392 said Hold My Beer i got this
I'll take the Jeep. I have been towing Bronos off the trails every time I go. Steering rack failures and tierod ends seam to top the list.
I love the 2 door bronco. Not a fan of the 4 door bronco. I wished the back window rolled down like my 94 does and the new Bronco should have a V8 not a ball of yarn under the hood.
100% agree, the two door version looks way better
@@newton2105 absolutely. Back in the day they were all 2 door. With the exception of the centurion
The 392 is a beast!
I'm not a Jeep fan but you stuff a 392 in it .. Beautiful.
love hearing a full size bronco only has a 2.7 or 3.0 v6 meanwhile my 2002 frontier has a 3.3 😂😂
Well your hearing is bad... The Bronco is mid-sized. Not a full size truck.
@@johnt6673 still a small motor to be in something its size. Not gonna get much life out of something pushing that puch power with only a 2.7 liter
@@adrianmartin3401 That 2.7 has been pushing fullsize f-150s around for seven years now. They are very well built and reliable. Compacted graphite iron block.And the quickest engine of the bunch. They hold extremely well
Superpower V10 Raptor 2 door Bronco Mid-engine concept starts 92G Supercharged. That 392 is a beast had it in my Power Wagon very quick 2 a 100Mph. Off road my thought is definitely fuel injection, no supercharger lag or turbo lag for you to feel. Just based on me buying 2021 Cummins 6.7 Diesel after the Power Wagon, there is some getting used to turbo power. I got the HO 1075 tq so it is sketch driving in the rain as well as the power Wagon that was sketch but you felt the power curve and not the boost effect. boost effect can crash you in a big way lol
My 4Xe Rubicon can do 0-60 in 5.8 secs in perfect conditions + brake boost. I think it would also smoke the Raptor, but not the 392.
It wouldn’t
Really glued to all of The Ford Lane's recent content... 😜
There is no replacement for displacement💪💪
Even if it was slower the 392 would make you happier just on the noise alone. Turbo v6s just usually end up sounding like vacuum cleaners.
How about a rematch in a Baja racing situation? Give the bronco's long travel suspension a chance to shine against the 392
That would be really cool and you're right I think the Braptor would probably show the 392 up in that forum.
They're fundamentally different though. Jeep never markets the wrangler as a baja runner. Ever. It's a rock crawler through & through. I imagine the jeep is as good at rock crawling as the bronco is at baja
Wrangler it's not designed for baja .
@@daniel45-70 well the Raptor does rock crawl better than any jeep so
My babe sent me this video❤️. How satisfying is watching the 392
HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE
Thanks. Nice thoughts always brighten the day.
Maybe a 60-0 mph brake test as well. Going fast is one thing, stopping is another.
That's on elevation. At sea level it would of been even more of a win by the jeep
👍love Nathan talking about and driving that Jeep
Eco boost don’t matter what exhaust you put on them - they will never sound as good as a v8
Even the Ecoboost mustang sounds like a Kia with an exhaust leak
You are absolutely right
They sound like a dairy cow in distress.
Epic fun video fellas. Appreciate you!!
You can put all the hair dryers on a puny engine that you want, but at the end of the day, there is NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT. And the 392 looks better and definitely sounds better.
Hey Jeep..... 392 Gladiator please.
The 392 definitely doesn't look better than the normal bronco, but the sound is of course exponentially better.
At some point you run out of space under the hood, and you are left with slapping that good ol' supercharger on it.
There is replacement for displacement. It's called revs.
@@ShersGarage lol sure
AWESOME VIDEO! Can you guys drag race the 392 and the BRAPTOR with the new supercharged V8 Defender?
I think they want too, but they couldn’t get a team of Land Rover mechanics there to keep one running long enough to perform several races..
@@Wrangzilla 😂😂😂😂
I would like to see the Wrangler and Raptor go through a technical whoop section, then dive into a nice G out, before launching over a roller. HP doesn’t mean anything if you can’t go fast over terrain.
The bronco raptor was not meant to be a quarter mile dominator. It was meant much like the original raptor F-150 to be a Baja desert runner. It means having a suspension that can handle the desert woops at speed, a drivetrain that can handle all the jarring around, and performance for you to go quick, and the build quality to keep it from falling apart. It was meant to be more of a desert runner, and still a great off-road rock climber. If they were looking at just being fast in a bronco, they wouldn't have chosen 37 in heavy tires, and a wider track that adds weight
Just because you can go fast over terrain doesn’t mean you can go fast on the track. Funny how there are all kinds of true statements out there.
But a Wrangler wasn't designed to go over whoops at high speeds, so what would be the point of that. Wranglers are made to tackle any terrain and rock crawl. The Bronco is designed to do well in the whoops and to be able to rock crawl.
I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but the Ford 10-speed has a sport mode if you pull the shifter all the way back. It's like the VW 5-speed from year's ago.
No replacement for displacement . Forgetting about the win just take a moment and look at either Ford engine presentation vs the Jeep. The Ford's just like they threw it in there and slammed the hood! What a mess of hoses and wires Ford at least an engine cover huh? @ 80k nothing looks special about that the look of either Ford engine .
The hemi just has all the "mess of hoses and wires" hidden under plastic covers. The heat extractors in the hood wouldn't be as efficient with an engine cover.
That's a LOT slower than I expected them all to be. I thought they would have been in the 13 second quarter mile range.
Clearly they should've put the 3.5 in the bronco raptor it's not even in the same category as a 5.7.
Absolutely agree
Nooo I had a 3.5 f150 it was the biggest pile. In the shop 8 times under 45k miles with serious problems! Never EcoBoost especially the 3.5! At least the 5.7 is a proven engine.
Great video !!!! I want the 392 even more now !!
Uh ok, how about a run across the desert, which is the actual build purpose of all of these vehicles. Rock crawling as well but that's not really a speed challenge. The desert run would be.
That 392 puts both Bronco's to shame in every aspect. Zero comparison!!!
I honestly think even the 4xe would beat the Bronco Raptor in a drag race. Mine is scary quick off the line, and some people have gotten some pretty amazing 0-60 times from them
It would.
Does still has the weaker 10r60 behind that 3.0 twin turbo, if they put a stronger transmission behind it the bronco could be quicker off the line with less torque management
That's cute. As a wrangler owner I'm still taking that Bronco 💀what the interior and the technology it provides for a daily driver is just way ahead
All these comments and no one saying they need the same size tires, 35 to 37 inch tires is a huge difference. It was a one second 1/4 mile difference and no mention of settings for either or if they put premium which changes the hp numbers.
Those fenders look stupid on the Bronco Raptor 😂
I wonder how long it’ll take for someone to make smaller aftermarket ones
I still love my '96 Bronco
Ford dealers seem to be the greediest of all dealers with mark ups on vehicles. Now they have put in a no resale clause on their lightning pickups and a no buy out at end of lease on all their electric vehicle leases.
I would like to see a Drag race between the Bronco Badlands vs Bronco Sport Badlands !! Go little Bronco !!
Looks like you need 5-Star tuning to come to the rescue 😄 I’ve heard they might have the Bronco’s ECU cracked soon. They’ve tuned some nasty 2.7L F-150’s. I would imagine the 10R60 in the Broncos is going to be a bottleneck though. You gotta launch in 2nd gear to alleviate the extreme torque management in 1st.
If it don't suck a valve........
@@willrector9716 Thanks for the info Will Rectum.
@@heathwirt8919 real original ass hat
Yeah they're great till the turbos blow and I even doubt those 2.7L EcoBoost trucks will outlast my 96 Ford F150 with a 5.0L (302) Windsor V8.
@@CJColvin your 5.0 won’t tow even a fraction of what the 2.7 will, nor will it get anywhere near the fuel economy. Nowhere near as comfortable. And I’d rather have my family in a new vehicle if we were to crash over that old truck.