The EVO Numbers Are Pretty Wild
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The KoF crew is hanging in there. There are dozens of us! Dozens!
Hey that game is actually good......unlike mk1
I daresay there are nearly 400 of you
I dont get it, KoF is amazing. It really needs better marketing.
@@RafaelVolcanesthe main playerbase for KoF dont travel much, sadly
Travelling to EVO from LATAM is insanely expensive, that definitely plays a part.
The other part is NA just doesn't like SNK games and they never have. They'll always find an excuse not to try them.
source: I'm the NA SNK fan who always tries to convince people to give KOF 98 or XV or Garou a shot but its like talking to a wall.
I must say, I'm proud of the Strive competitive scene for being so consistent and still going strong for 3-4 years so far. That's a very healthy sign for the community.
Completely unprecedented for the franchise. Even when its entrance numbers surpassed SF numbers in the release year... after all not every game surpass SF just for being new. Just like the fact it's getting a 4th season, which is rare in this genre... though some people might not be fully aware of that just because the only two games with long dlc cycles are SF and TK, the mainstream games that everyone plays. But that's a tremendous achievement.
@@carlosaugusto9821 also considering it's still a pretty niche franchise outside of the fgc.
I keep hearing jokes that Strive players don't actually play the game, they just jack off to Bridget porn, and stuff like that. I keep seeing Strive as top 3 entrants in every tourney tho so clearly someone is playing.
Sajam feeling the need to tell people to shower everyday is crazy!! He's probably met a bunch of stinkers at these events!
I went to a local small time con once for a SF6 tourney and it smelled so bad. I can’t imagine what a major event with thousands of people possibly smells like.
I've never hung out at tournaments, but I've heard wild stories from SBFP about Yugi-Oh competitive tournaments with rough hygiene.
Dude, last year's Evo I smelled my first one AT THE DAMN DEPARTURE GATE AT THE AIRPORT. I look over, and sure enough, Victrix stick backpack and CEO shirt. How you gonna already be stinky before you even fly to Vegas? The mind boggles
The smell deal is the biggest thing stopping me from going to tourneys. Like bruh. I know it's a competitive mind game mixup type thing (at least I HOPE that is) but you're fucking shit up for everyone else. Have higher standards for yourself and the community, man. For fucks sake.
Standing in the Water is Not Enough | Shower to Master
Rising being 4th, just behind the three super heavyweights, warms my heart. I really love that game. It may not be the deepest technically, but it does so much stuff right, and I'm glad it got a 2nd chance in this modern Rollback era of fighters.
Agreed rising is a really fun game
It’s funny how MK is no longer considered top 3
@@hands-ongaming7180 MK's never really been top 3 in terms of competitive scene size. It's at the top (aside from Smash) in terms of sales/mass popularity, certainly, but that's because of massive appeal to more casual players. But the FGC, tournament-going player base for it, while it's always there, has never really been as big as those for the other big names in the genre.
@@hands-ongaming7180 Competitively, in the post-SF4 world, MK has always lagged behind the newest Street Fighter, the newest Tekken, the newest Smash Bros and Melee in terms of competitive interest. Now Guilty Gear has done that with Strive, and Dragon Ball will probably be above there when we get that inevitable DBFZ sequel. And who knows, maybe if Capcom gets their fighting game division together, their newest Versus games might do this as well.
A lot of factors go against MK; poor launches, poor game states, lacking competitive interest outside of Europe and America, bad PC ports, no actual release of the game in many Asian countries, and MK being too violent to appeal to younger players. But if I'm NRS I don't care much about all but the first two issues, because NRS' last 5 (soon to be 6) releases have all been significant blockbuster hits.
I like the game but not more than the original GBVS
Strive over 2k is absolutley wild, after all this time.
Tekken went from 1800 entrants as their peak to over 4000, and SF6 has had 2 years in a row with over 5000 entrants. Obviously correlation isn't causation, but the fact that both these games have very high-profile and _very_ successful newcomer-level content creator tournaments (e.g. CR Cup and Sajam Slam) I don't think should be overlooked for these games' popularity
There's some amount of self looping feedback since part of the reason newcomer level content creator tournaments happened is BECAUSE there were newcomer level content creators interested in getting into these games, BUT the tournaments absolutely played a major part in getting public eye onto these games in a way that hasn't been seen in a longgg time.
Without the tournaments, who knows how many of those content creators would've really gone on to get into these games and spread awareness of how cool they are to the wider audience and ecosystem outside of the typical FG player base.
@@Freakattaker A lot of Tekken 7's growing audience came from shared stories of wild tournament moments from across the globe. Since it had a competitive scene in many different regions.
@@leithaziz2716 And T7's massive growth itself compared to older games is related with some outside factors like the strong support that the franchise got in that decadent period (post Tag 2)... and even the factor of SF's decadence because of SF5's early years. That failure broke the hype wave the franchise was surfing on due to SF4's success, and gave an opening for people to give more attention to games from Bandai Namco and Arc Systems. Because in the time of SF4 it was stealing a lot of attention from other games, no matter how competent, like GG Xrd and KOF 13.
the only reason that Tekken 8 had that number of entrants is because of the hype before the launch and on its first 2 months but after players experienced the bugs and other issues from the game, it seems it will not be the same now. Just look how many players are playing on Steam, 50k on launch and now it's averaging 5k players per day while SF6 is still consistent averaging 30k players per day.
Yes, it cannot be understated how important T7’s explosion and longevity as a competitive game has fed into increased popularity of the franchise.
T8 has capitalized on that by also increasing general audience appeal and now they’ve damn neared triple their EVO turnout in year 1 of the game.
It’s insane.
And Harada tweeted today that he convinced the president of Bandai Namco to come with him to the event because he doesn’t understand why Harada and Murray travel to these events.
It’s gonna be crazy.
My first EVO was great, you should follow Sajam's advice and stay hydrated. Also, if you're not used to dry, higher elevated climates (I'm from South Texas at sea level), be prepared for a potential nosebleed! I was sitting in the crowd watching Smash 4 when I turned to my friend and he said "bro your nose is bleeding" I looked down and saw blood on my shirt, which is wild that I didn't notice or feel it. Needless to say, I had to rush to the restroom.
It's definitely one of my favorite memories from EVO 2017 lmao
And chapstick
Seeing over two thousand for GUILTY GEAR is kind of nuts to me.
Not new for Evo. GG had over 2400 last year, and 2100 in 2022. Strive is a very popular competitive game.
@madmanmit2618 it's super cool tho to see a guilty gear title doing this well in year 4
@@Amaling Well, technically it's year 3. Strive released in mid 2021, so this would be it's third year. But yeah, I agree. It's still doing very well for it's age.
And 1100 of them are playing Happy Chaos!
@@D3dshotCalamity and the rest are playing goldlewis
Love to see SF6 killing it for a second year
So happy to see Guilty Gear Strive still over 2k, amazing. Old but gold. When a game is fun, it’s fun.
Next throwback has to be Soulcalibur 2 so Aris can pick himself up an EVO trophy
Tekken 8 is doing so well. It's completely blown Tekken 7 out of the water and Tekken 7 pretty much grew year on year.
First year numbers are almost never reflective of the actual competitive numbers not until the game's second year.
True, Tekken 7 started slow and grew up each year @TheOtakuKat
@@TheOtakuKat meanwhile mk1 with 600 only but then again the game sucks anyway
the only reason that Tekken 8 had that number of entrants is because of the hype before the launch and on its first 2 months but after players experienced the bugs and other issues from the game, it seems it will not be the same now. Just look how many players are playing on Steam, 50k on launch and now it's averaging 5k players per day while SF6 is still consistent averaging 30k players per day.
@mogucentral3820 lol, whule thats half true, Tekken 8 is getting better by each update and the community is loving it unlike mk1.
From having over 10k gamers, Tekken being so close to SF in entries, Granblue being so high up and UNI having nearly 800 people, it’s really amazing to see just how many people are caring about competitive fighting games. The way it all blew up is crazy to say the least
Poor MK
I hope COTW is at EVO next year, praying that game is what finally gets people into SNK games.
Glad granblue has good numbers, despite people not liking the current meta
I’m searching for the next patch like water in the desert I wanna love the game so bad
Eh, people always bitch about the current meta in every game. Whoever the current top tiers are are always "killing the game," especially if a patch comes and doesn't knock them down to at least mid-tier. You kind of learn to ignore it after a while and just enjoy the games you like while ignoring online whining about them.
The beta “Which scene is doing the best?!?” versus the chad “ I am SO PROUD of all these communities.” 🗿💕
Marvel 2 is definitely getting a 1000 plus bracket if it's a throwback game next year.
MBAACC would be a really hype spectator game, plus you get the Uni overlap
Seeing granblue getting such high numbers is so wonderful to see. Granblue as a franchise never had much of a following outside of japan, so seeing rising getting this many people playing it on its first year at evo is wonderful to see. Hopefully it can keep it up after this, especially with rising's first major balance overhaul patch will be playable at booths at evo.
It surpassed Marvel vs Capcom in terms of entrant numbers from last year. UMVC3 got 1355, while GBVS this year got 1377, crazy numbers.
@@madmanmit2618is this troll ? The fact that UMVC released in 2011 and still on par with granBlue, it’s embarrassing for GranBlue
@@Crowlo17 Not really, UMVC3 may be old, but it's very popular here in the west. "When's Mahvel" was a saying for a long time because a lot people in the FGC missed it being at Evo and were waiting for it's return. So naturally you would see a large influx of players coming to Evo to play MVC3. Granblue on the other hand, is not nearly as well known here in the west as Marvel is. There's no beloved history of it competitively here. So the fact that in it's first year it edges out MVC3 by entrants numbers is actually quite impressive.
@@Crowlo17on what planet are these "embarrassing" numbers for Granblue? Anime games cracking 1k at EVO is always huge, lol.
@@aRBy125 its in a jp/anime style but is it really an anime fighter.
This is just a list of games that cracked over 1k entrants at Evo over the years. Very interesting numbers.
1 Street Fighter VI (2023) - 7080, 2. Street Fighter VI (2024) - 5265, 3. Street Fighter V (2016) - 5107
4. Tekken 8 (2024) - 4646, 5. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (2019) - 3532, 6. Super Smash Bros. WII U (2016) - 2662
7. Street Fighter V (2017) - 2622, 8. Dragon Ball FighterZ (2018) - 2576, 9. Street Fighter V (2018) - 2496, 10. Guilty Gear Strive (2023) - 2471
11. Super Smash Bros. Melee (2016) - 2372, 12. Ultra Street Fighter IV (2015) - 2227, 13. Guilty Gear Strive(2022) - 2155
14. Guilty Gear Strive (2024) - 2058, 15. Ultra Street Fighter IV (2014) - 1979, 16. Street Fighter V (2019) - 1949
17. Super Smash Bros. WII U (2015) - 1926, 18. Tekken 7 (2019) - 1896, 19. Super Smash Bros. Melee (2015) - 1869
20. Samurai Shodown (2019) - 1726, 21. Ultra Street Fighter IV (2013) - 1637, 22. Tekken 7 (2023) - 1587
23. Mortal Kombat 11 (2019) - 1574, 24. Tekken 7 (2018) - 1544, 25. Ultra Street Fighter IV (2012) - 1520
26. Super Smash Bros. WII U (2017) - 1505, 27. Super Smash Bros. Melee(2017) - 1425, 28. Granblue Fantasy Versus: Rising (2024) - 1377
29. Super Smash Bros. WII U (2018) - 1355, 30. Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 (2023) - 1352 , 31. Super Smash Bros. Melee (2018) - 1350
32. Street Fighter V (2022) - 1321, 33. Ultimate marvel vs Capcom 3 (2013) - 1302, 34. Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 (2012) - 1297
35. Tekken 7 (2017) - 1283, 36. Tekken 7 (2022) - 1215, 37. Dragon Ball FighterZ (2019) - 1197, 38. Pokken Tournament (2016) - 1180
39. Blazblue: Cross Tag Battle (2018) - 1178 , 40. Mortal Kombat X (2015) - 1162, 41. Under Night In-Birth EXE: Late[ST] (2019) - 1154
42. Street Fighter III: 3RD STRIKE (2024) - 1101, 43. The King Of Fighters XIII (2012) - 1072, 44. Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3 (2014) - 1014
45. The King Of Fighters XV (2022) - 1006
I feel like Soul Calibur 2 could work for the retro game, but that might get into weird territory when it comes to the best version.
Next year's legacy game is almost certainly gonna be MvC2 with the Marvel collection coming out. Maybe there'll be room for 2 legacy games...?
I know that this won't happen like ever 😂 but it would be so cool of they put KOF 02 or 98 there , or the older guilty gears
It warms my hear to see the UNI2 and GBVS numbers (Strive as well, but I'm not surprised at that one).
UNI also had a good showing at CEO, and a good sale on Steam, so I hope they keep clawing their way out of full-priced Discord fighter territory.
I think one possible reason why a lot of people are disinterested in the HxH game is because they saw how the characters looked and thought that we were gonna get hit with a Jujutsu Kaisen Cursed Clash situation. This is a pretty big reach and of course there are other possible reasons why but I did notice people in comments sections comparing HxH to JJKCC even though they are nothing alike.
For a personal example, if I as a JoJo fan were to get a game that looked as (sorry for the lack of words) dirtcheap the game in question, I would be very letdown.
Of course, you're not wrong about the fact that many licensed anime games have a reputation of being lazy cashgrabs (most of them arena fighters), which isn't helping matters.
I'd say on the other direction many where disappointed because they expected it to be Dragon Ball FighterZ only to find out that it was... Well not that. Which should have been expected, very few franchises have the scope to receive the DBFZ treatment.
It remains to see if Fans of the manga/anime will jump in and get the game once it comes out. That will be a determining factor.
It doesn't help that the first footage shown made it look worse than it apparently is.
The biggest issue with it for me is that it looks worse than Tatsunoko V.S Capcom. It looks WORSE and MORE LOW BUDGET than A FUCKING WII GAME!! Even IF 8ing is the company working on it and it's with a series as beloved as HxH, that low level of a budget is just demoralizing. I'm more annoyed at Gon and Killua not even having their whole outfits. At least as far as what we've seen.
@@emperormegaman3856 In a way HxH is like DBFZ, just not in the aspects that interests the fg fan and consumer. Like, it's unquestionably the result from DBFZ's success, which combined a famous anime franchise with a solid traditional 2d fg format. I dont know how much the specific use of MvC system (loosely but close enough) mattered... but it must be a factor, because MvC died in that period and there was no other game in that style. Regardless HxH is doing the same thing: big anime franchise + MvC system.
But one important factor for sure is that traditional 2d fgs based on animes became very rare after the ps2 gen, because the technology growth and the decadence of 2d fgs motivated companies to use other genres for animes, even if it's the 3d arena fg format. So people immediately gave a lot of attention to a traditional 2d fg of DBZ. And Eighting (dev company) is making this cheap HxH game betting 100% on how critically starving the HxH community is and their willingness to support the game.
Games in a different sub genre can absolute share the same misses when it comes to the quality and support of the product, and those are where all the comparisons are being made.
The fact that Eighting’s involved ensures a similar lack of balance given their history(which is or isn)t fine depending on who you ask) , they sport a similarly anorexic roster size relative to their respective subgenres, they both are getting graphically diffed by games two or even three console generations prior, and HxH has arguably less of an excuse for these things because there are copy-pasted MvC animations all over the place that would assumedly lessen the budget and manpower necessary to alleviate the aforementioned issues.
And when it comes to post-launch support concerns, that’s probably the one area where Eighting has failed harder than Bamco with how much of a laughing stock DNF Duel has become for taking 2 whole ass years to complete a single season of where even the disastrously launched so-poor-we-were-basically-forced-into-Sony-exclusivity SFV had finished their third season by this time.
Saying that a 2D and 3D tag fighter have nothing in common is probably the biggest reach here lmao
Tekken Tag 2 would be a godlike throwback game
The problem with MK isnt the number of competitors, it's that the games growth is stagnant. Every other game has grown immensely over the years but NRS games have just stayed around the numbers it usually has. They have to do something. They have to rethink how the game flows competitively. Obviously its in its own stratosphere with Smash when it comes to sales, but even Smash can pull in large numbers of competitors from those huge install bases.
Also, to the dismay of the vocal minority, they need to add an option for gore. Other countries wont touch the game and companies wont sponsor MK bc of it. Literally an option hurts no one because its your CHOICE whether to have it on or off. If you argue against it then youre just seeking confrontation and arent a part of the arugment
I'm not an MK fan, but in my eyes, the gore IS the game. Obviously it's a feature that hurts the game in lots of ways but I don't think they should take one of the key features of a series just to (maybe) increase popularity.
Cause even Injustice 2 was looked at with negative impressions competitively. NRS just kind of misses the mark in the regard by default.
3rd Strike stays winning
Can't wait for the Chun top 8
@@decksteroussnailYun mirror grands 🗣🗣
@@decksteroussnailHugo was just in Grands at CEO!
@@decksteroussnailnah, western 3rd strike scene is more diverse it always has.
@@coolswag4612 yeah, cause they know they never gon win anyway
Strive still doing so incredibly well with a lot of new updates down the road is amazing to see
KOF98 or +R for next year's throwback game would be pretty sick
Facts
Price definitely kept me from going this year. Though sort of regret it after seeing the 3rd strike numbers
i'm definitely gonna go in 2025, my first EVO. Should be fun!
KOF has never been popular here, I'm not surprised at the numbers, but KoF tournaments are hype af to watch. MK on the other hand, should have people talking. MK tournament numbers have been bad, and most of it's player base went back to XI (according to Steam Charts). Plus it's part of "the big 3" it shouldn't be getting lapped by 3 anime games. Uni growing is beautiful to see, that games tournaments always end up being a gem to watch at these events I swear.
I am a diehard HxH fan, which means I can tell you first hand that the community has completely stopped getting excited about anything ever. It’s like if there was a Game of Thrones fighting game in development - the main response is “oh there was a time I would have gone absolutely insane for this”.
HxH has been a functionally dead manga for years
I’m seeing a lot of people trash on MK but those are pretty average for MK. If it released in spring I bet the number would be a lot higher but after ten months this isn’t horrible.
Looking at steam charts, there's more people on mk 11 than mk1. That's how bad it is, mk 11 is garbage too but mk1 is hot trash.
@@limitedbom2206I'd argue that MK has always been a trash series, and that's perfectly fine.
The fans are just slowly begging to realize what that means, in an era where some of the best fgs are releasing, and rightfully just prefer the better quality stuff.
@@valeoncat13 I don’t think that’s the case. I’ve played plenty of nrs games, they at least had the chaotic style to them. Constantly bashing each other, running each other down, flashy combos, etc. now the nrs games feel like they’re trying to be street fighter and it’s like… why would I play a worse version of street fighter?
Regarding the advice about Evo at the end of the vid; as a Vegas local, if youre into food there are so many great food places here of literally every type, one of Vegas's major upsides, highly recommend to venture outta the strip if you are able to!!
The official streams better be good to handle this capacity or it's gonna suck.
There was recent Japanese FGC tournament (I forget the name) a few months ago that had terrible streaming and scheduling it killed the online viewership.
EVO streams are always on point, i wouldn't be worry about that
EVO Japan's streams were trash, at least the English streams
Holy shit 700 for uni im so happy
I know right! I'm happy granblue and under night are up there with the big contenders
would love to see KOF13 as the throwback next year, it's so fun to watch. or if that's not old enough 02 and 98 are always popular
That would be nice but KOF is not a "classic" in the sense of other old games commonly treated like that. Because there's a whole authentic culture around those games in the north american community, but it's not like that with KOF.
blazblue for the throwback slot would be cool, we need new blood to take on Monarch
While I love BB, I doubt they'd consider it old enough to be a throwback game yet. Maybe for CF's 10th anniversary. In the meantime, I'd bet more on older games that are fondly remembered - KI, Soul Calibur 2, CvS2, etc.
I told myself, the year BBCF is the Evo Throwback game is the year we get a new Blazblue, lol.
An old Soul Calibur tournament to (so not going to happen) hopefully encourage a new entry to be developed one day would be icing on the cake for me.
Kof Is not a really hard game in execution but neutral Is on a whole other level, it really Is a game where legacy skill carries you so badly, which Is a really good thing!!
Good or trash, 2XKO is going to have huge numbers for it's first tourney.
Not only f2p, but also bring in the riot game audience. Just like how many people tried valorabt cause they played league, same is gonna happen.
I’ve been to towns with a smaller population than the Strive brackets.
"I don't want to watch another grand finals Nier mirror" If this Evo is anything like last Evo, every grand finals will be a mirror.
We've come a long way from Battle By The Bay!
hoping some marvel vs. collection games rank next year-will probably help get us to mvc4.
3rd strike at number 5, love to see it.
Soul Caliber 2 would be sick for EVO 2025
Having +R or MBAACC on the Evo mainstage would be so cool. (Also, unfortunatelly, traveling to the US is very expensive, I'd love to go to EVO someday and if I was lucky enough, meet Pep and ask him for an autograph)
Are we getting more GGST talks from ya? I wanna see you tell me that everything's gonna be okay and Slayer won't hurt me
I am still desperately hoping for an SC2 throwback next year
I think +R would make a good throwback game, still has a solid community.
I gotta wonder if 20 years from now over a 1000 people will still be entering tournaments for SF6?
I highly doubt it lol
@@bloomallcaps why?
You know things are rough when MK dudes are having to bust out "well we don't go to events because our online is just too good", as though they didn't have month after month last year where MK1's online was busted because WB rushed the game out the door.
Truly we are in another era. So weird. Wish FGC was a bit smaller and more DIY but bills gots ta get paid
Those mk1 numbers are shocking and concerning
Maybe they should have just had an MK2 tournament instead. MK2 actually had top notch gameplay.
Kinda regretting buying UNI 2 tho, for how many EVO players there 1/10 players in-game
UNDERNIGHT REPRESENT
Vampire Savior or Soulcalibur II are my top picks for the legacy game next year, just because they're both so different from UMvC3 and SF3 and those franchises are basically dead and this would be an opportunity to show the publishers that the players really care about the game.
Though for SC2 I wonder what platform they'd use, I'm guessing GameCube because that's what most people play it on now but who knows, and this actually matters because of the console-exclusive characters.
Thank god my hotel is connected to the monorail because f that shiii
congrats to MK1 for not being in last place!
I remember when the only game that could get close to breaking 1,000 players was smash.
I have no idea how they will decide the line up in the coming years if they want to keep the throwback slot and only 8 games.
They should totally do an old tekken as the classic game now that Tekken is bigger
Question is, which old Tekken do you bring back?
those kof numbers make me so sad
Soul Calibur 2 would be a cool throwback game
Fighting games are here to stay.
Legacy game next year. Soul Calibur 2. I will not be accepting many other alternatives.
as a hxh fan i will be peddling the good word of nen impact when it drops
Unfortunately not a lot will be sharing your optimism...😓
As a huge HxH fan I can agree with that statement. I am more disappointed to see what Nen impact is than excited for a HxH game.
How does 3rd Strike have almost double that of MK1?
MK1 is an underwhelming product, that’s why.
WB after the Discovery merger has been looking pretty grim…
@CarbyGuuGuu
Didn't buy it, but I thought it had sold well. Is this more or less entrants than MK11 had I wonder??
Edit:
So I checked, and MK11 had like 400ish entrants in 2021, so in a way MK1 is doing better, but seems like this Evo just has more entrants in general so maybe that is just a rising tide situation
@@B_Ahmed1234Entrants for MK games have declined over time, from what I’ve been told
MKX and MK11 had over 1,000 entrants when they launched, but then shrunk. MK1 has the lowest entry of any MK in EVO at around 600.
Because mk1 suuuuuucks competitively
next year fatal fury is gonna be top 1 or 2
As a Granblue fan, I'm praying we don't get another top 8 with 4 niers . . .
Welp MK1, thats what happens when WB and NRS treat and structure their game like a quick cash-in
Or, one could say, half of the entrants are double dipping ;)
Why didn't SNK throw more money for KoF's prize pool? They have the funds to do it and I would imagine more players will sign up to play and then they can transition to Fatal Fury
They already spent a huge chunk of money getting Terry and Mai into SF6, who will both be releasing in the 6-8 month period before CotW's launches.
That's plenty enough to get the hype going.
For context, the NRS competitive community usually isn't that big for single games, as much of that audience is used to move on to the next title when it comes out around 2 years later. They don't latch on to a specific game much.
This is why beyond the 1st year, the dedicated competitive audience dwindles down fast as they're ready to move on and don't feel the need to go back (Maximillion is kinda the exception in that regard for MKX content creation). MK11's continued support was when a lot of players were caught off-guard and realised they couldn't just wait for the next new thing, and MK1 might go the same route. That and the rough launch is why the entrance numbers are so low (despite this being MK1's first year at EVO).
Or maybe just maybe the game isnt fun and is gonna be just Johnny and Peacemaker
MK numbers are NOT OKAY.
Mortal Kombat
EVO! BRING BACK DRAGON BALL FIGHTERZ AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!
More SF3:3S registrations than MK1. All is good in the world.
The fact more people play Mortal Kombat than king of fighters is rediculous
Man, Multiversus got robbed /s
For real though, I'm surprised Strive is still hanging on after all this time.
This number isn't that bad for a game that didn't get a big update in a while
And ppl say Tekken is dying 😭
Wow MK1 only has 645 entries? That game is toast
Zaslav ready to do a tax write-off fatality…
MK1 getting absolutely clowned on
HunterXHunter hasto prove it's not just another anime cash in, regardless of who is making it. Dragonball fz made it, but a lot of anime, and some 8ing, games floundered.
MK1 is...yeah...it exists XD
CEO top 8 for SF had Juri, JP, Luke, Ken, Manon, Cammy, and Akuma. Final Kombat top 8 was peacemaker and Johnny Cage. Johnny is still top tier after the "nerfs", so this is just going to be a repeat of that. I love MK but dang pro MK1 is so boring.
Shang Tsung, Kitana, Baraka, General Shao, Sindel, Rain and Raiden were also used on final kombat top 8
@@musilva True actually, but still boring to watch
@@dylanstephenson3892 peacemaker was very boring and a Johnny mirror for grand finals was a big shame, but for everything else I have to disagree, I had a ton of fun watching it.
@@musilva To each their own. To me, it seems like MK meta gets figured out days after new patch/characters and I'm watching the same combos and loops over and over. RIPS Arena showcases some stuff that I think is pretty cool, but you never see it at the mainstage tournaments, at least I don't.
praying for an EVO with no MK. every year it's our watch party's lunch break
I wonder what sort of outrageous numbers 2XKO will have next year, especially if it's f2p. Curious to see how MvC2 will be as well, since it'll obviously be the retro title next time. Is it too crazy to say 2k?
645 hahahaha.
The hxh game is on track to fail purely on visuals and that's really sad
MK1 literally struggling to stay afloat at this point, but thats what happens with boring character designs and weak gameplay
KoF 13 for retro game slot please,
People dogging on MK1 even though it's a similar amount of entrants as MKX's second year is confusing to me.
It's MK1 first year. It also sold way more copies in its first month than MKX. The FGC and EVO are bigger now than 2016 or 2017, and almost every game got more entrants, except for MK1. Time to face reality, MK1 sucks so much not even NRS fanboys are willing to compete on it
@@alfgartMK felt like it never really had a competitive scene, it mostly appealed to a casual crowd that just want to mash buttons and see the grossest snuff possible.
SF and Tekken had a larger competitive scene since their genesis and didn’t lean heavily on violence like MK did, and it just kept growing with each installment.
@@CarbyGuuGuu MKX EVO 2015: 1162 entrants - MK11 EVO 2019: 1567 entrants - MK11 CB 2019: 807 entrants
MK did and does have a competitive audience. When MK1 was announced and content creators/shills were invited to events, they all said MK1 felt much better than MK11 and was more competitive focused. And this is where we are. Cut the copium, the game is simply not good
@@alfgart I wasn’t even defending MK1, I thought it didn’t have as big as a competitive scene as SF and Tekken because of its casual appeal.
We already know MK1 has been poorly received, but that’s part of a bigger problem going on with WB which is also affecting the games division.
We should bully 2xKO into not showing up at EVO most sauceless cast and game.
Smash needs to make a return
Nintendo: *Oh, no you don’t!*
I'd love a platform fighter, but I'd rather have Rivals than Smash unless there's a new game.
HunterxHunter isn't appealing to the general consumer cause it's an old-ass, cult-classic anime. If that had been a more modern, successful franchise like Jujitsu Kaisen, people would be losing their minds over that game.
JJK sucks though.
I feel like calling it a cult classic gives a false impression that the ip is niche, when its sold roughly the same manga copies as jjk.
@@PopoTCG Honestly, I'm not even gonna refute this. In terms of substance, JJK definitely doesn't has any, but it's 'potential' to fulfill a fighting game role would have been solid.
Bro HxH is mainstream and had a recent remake. At this point yu yu hakasho takes rhe classic spot
MK1 has been a huge disappointment, let's be real.