Team caught CHEATING in TOURNAMENT And Still LOST!

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  • I just wanted to explain what happened in the current Rome 2 Tournament and that it still is up and running! A team cheated and tarnished their reputation and tried to take advantage of me and the community.
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  • @ubersneak
    @ubersneak 4 года назад +2081

    2020: Cheat in a 6 year old game that does not have a cash prize in front of hundreds of people. Priorities.

    • @cowboy1772
      @cowboy1772 4 года назад +13

      Ikr...?

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 4 года назад +62

      Cuz their the stupid type of ppl.
      Cheating over a "fun tournament match" and u get only a "Title" wow....... Good job.
      That's why I hate playing competitive games cuz they just think they are above everyone in game. When there's better teams out there and everyone has "bad games" that doesn't mean anyone sucks. It just means they need a better opportunity.
      Everytime I play total war, I usually friend ppl who I go against, win or lose. I give advice and receive advice. Actually.... Not usually? But it's kinda meh lol, tho I do like playing against ppl regardless I lose cuz I can learn from my mistakes (always watching my replays) and or trying new strategy.

    • @emperorlokire7648
      @emperorlokire7648 4 года назад +4

      I imagine they thought that it being such low stakes would make it very unlikely for them to get caught.

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 4 года назад +3

      @@emperorlokire7648 probably thought so. The tournament was just for a title and for fun.

    • @hunterz2453
      @hunterz2453 4 года назад +3

      How is this a six-year-old game?

  • @kristiansantosa2997
    @kristiansantosa2997 4 года назад +499

    Summary about Total Losers:
    5:15 They tried to bend the rule in their favor
    14:10 Private referee to help them
    17:16 Their 1st opponent was their own members
    20:38 Convenient disconnects (I assume to restart the match when things go wrong?)
    Additional reason not to be such person:
    19:33 Narcissistic
    Thanks for explaining this Apollo. I have feedback for the video:
    Might want to get a script before recording.
    For an outsider like me (who's not familiar with this game, just clicked because its on my recommendation), I had difficulty seeing the big picture (how they cheated) because there are so many distractions in the narrative.
    "So here's how they cheat. By the way, I am trying to be objective and you know what, let me tell you more background story before we get to the point."
    (5 minutes later)
    "Ok, let's get to the point. Again, I don't want to sound biased but let me tell you the context that I am about to tell you..."
    (Another 5 minutes)
    C'mon man tell me how they cheat already lol
    I suggest to put a summary of what they did in the first 5 minutes of the video and then you can elaborate on each points and add your personal opinion on the next 20 minutes of the video.
    23:47 You could have said this 15 minutes earlier lol

    • @marcomahardika5133
      @marcomahardika5133 4 года назад +14

      Thank you

    • @bva0
      @bva0 4 года назад +29

      Good comment. The actual way they cheated could have been explained in 10 minutes or less "in an unbiased way". The opinions/rant (which are more than 70% of the video) could have been extra/optional after that.

    • @oEQjet
      @oEQjet 4 года назад +19

      Honestly I hit minute 13 of this video I was convinced this was a prank. You just had to laugh really. I said to myself "haha, Ok you got me, who made this video?... doesn't seem like the kind of channel to do a prank like this. He's so deadpan in his delivery... All the comments are serious..."
      THEN he actually says something of substance. That was crazy. THAT WAS CRAZY. I've never seen someone speak so slowly while speaking so quickly.

    • @legatusmaximus7432
      @legatusmaximus7432 4 года назад +2

      bva it’s not a rant he’s explaining the gameplay along with it, he would get ridiculed for not explaining it properly sooooo.

    • @ellismccoy
      @ellismccoy 4 года назад +18

      I'm actually confused. Just watched and they cheated by having a fake team and DCing? It was like 25 minutes of just ranting with no actual information. This could have been 3 minutes long...

  • @killswitchgaming8048
    @killswitchgaming8048 4 года назад +118

    As someone who fought them in the first tournament in the first round where me and my friends tried to get them punished in that tournament I am happy to see them finally get what they deserve which is losing and now no longer being “ immortalized as the best” because in my eyes and in many other they were only cheaters nothing more.

  • @joeonitproductions
    @joeonitproductions 4 года назад +183

    It sucks you had to make a video about this type of behavior in a tournament. Thanks to Ellington for originally finding this information out and passing it around to Apollo and other RUclipsrs so the TW will be fully shown as the cheaters and bad sports they are. I feel the community will be better now that they are gone and have been shown with proof to be cheaters and liars.

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 4 года назад +2

      I'm glad they are gone. Ppl like that are the lowest of shits.
      I don't know when I'll be buying a computer to play total war. Since I want a good running one so I might get a custom built but I really am not good at making my own lol cuz I'll get mind blown if Idk what I'm doing. So I might get just some computer that's good and able to handle steam games.
      Overall atleast I'm glad Apollo posted this video.
      Respect to ppl that helped solved this cheating problem.
      Tournament for "Fun", cheaters thinking they earn something out of it.
      Me: so they wasted their time just for a title? I rather lose in a good battle struggle than lose to cheating and had planned everything so u win (so embarrassing really).

    • @aucklandid4937
      @aucklandid4937 4 года назад +1

      I agree

  • @curtiswatson4192
    @curtiswatson4192 4 года назад +163

    can we please make 'immortalized as the best living rent free in the heads of thousands' into a meme lmao

    • @celticfan3585
      @celticfan3585 4 года назад

      We could make it the name of the next tourney?

    • @kubelkampferin1245
      @kubelkampferin1245 4 года назад +3

      Who would win?
      Self acclaimed gods among the tournament's, living rent free in the heads of thousands...
      or some Newbie bois

    • @richyhu2042
      @richyhu2042 4 года назад +5

      If you could have custom unit names, some one should totally make like a "Rent Free Immortals" or "Forever Remembered Headsmen"

    • @EliteJax4180
      @EliteJax4180 4 года назад

      @@richyhu2042 If we could do that, i'd give them sticks. Better than nothing, right?

  • @quimble2177
    @quimble2177 4 года назад +43

    “Live rent free in the heads of thousands”
    I mean...I guess? I personally don’t even remember their names

    • @jackk.7452
      @jackk.7452 4 года назад +10

      @@hamishnewtonimsorryimsosca2171 no

    • @gryphon0468
      @gryphon0468 4 года назад +6

      Hamish Newton no ones visiting your channel fuckwit.

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 4 года назад +1

      @@hamishnewtonimsorryimsosca2171 ur videos lame. I just looked thru what u have. It looks boring

    • @Naeron66
      @Naeron66 4 года назад +5

      Exactly. They will live on as "remember those desperate losers who tried to cheat a friendly R2 tournament and lost anyway, it is to laugh"

  • @iclapuyt5582
    @iclapuyt5582 4 года назад +77

    Bruh I havent finished the video but who would cheat on a tournament? Imagine having no Honor

  • @andreytishechkin4533
    @andreytishechkin4533 4 года назад +4

    Beginning of video: Apollo says he won't make drama.
    End of Video: Apollo just made a ton of drama !

  • @flotnar2512
    @flotnar2512 4 года назад +6

    Apollo:" I dont like drama"
    Also Apollo: "Theye were caught CHEATING on a TOURNAMENT!!!!"

  • @the_matad0r342
    @the_matad0r342 4 года назад +2

    Future reference: Make sure your refs are equally spread out among the battles.
    And if you choose to keep the Academy in, have 2 refs watching of YOUR choosing. And maybe make yourself 1 of those.

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 4 года назад +2

      More like have a secret police force in the group and community. Get the Uchiha clan XD.
      But literally, Apollo did his best but the choices made are very difficult.
      Admins are only trustworthy ppl and the teams needs to be more fixed on fun than competitive cuz it's a community event not a actually competition/competitive event that involves a prize.... Otherwise titles actually means anything to them cuz it's stupid.
      To the ppl whose like me (a casual) who doesn't care about titles just about the gameplay and fun. If my team lose I give props to the team. I might even friend them cuz I do play ok.

    • @the_matad0r342
      @the_matad0r342 4 года назад

      Korean Cowboy42 I know he is doing what he sees as best. I just thought I'd help him do better. Having one ref set up to monitor most of the matches of a single team was, in my opinion, a mistake. It being community matches with no prize, it shouldn't have been a problem. All we can do is safeguard for the future.

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 4 года назад

      @@the_matad0r342 since academy is been exposed by the community i don't think he would allow them back.

    • @the_matad0r342
      @the_matad0r342 4 года назад

      Korean Cowboy42 As of this video, they had no idea if Academy was cheating or not. They were just under scrutiny due to being Total Winners "B team." If something has changed since this video, I have not heard about it.

  • @MyFunnyVids888
    @MyFunnyVids888 4 года назад +4

    "We have been immortalized as the best in the heads of thousands..." of people who subscribe to Apollo when there are many many other people who play this game who may be better than them

  • @WarIsHell
    @WarIsHell 4 года назад

    Sorry you had to deal with this man. I to some degree feel sorry for Total Winners too. I mean, how sorry is your life when losing in a game impacts you that much? I hate to say it but I see the same thing with arma milsim on my channel too. Feel for you bro.

  • @MatTrojan92
    @MatTrojan92 4 года назад

    I feel like this Total Winner team should be named and shamed as to prevent the rest of the community to be able to distance themselves from these players. Last thing I myself as a new player would want is to go into a battle with these guys whether it's competitive or not. This team went to such an extent to cheat, now by not mentioning who they are you will be allowing them to get away with nothing but a slap on the wrist .... along with the humiliation to the entire Rome 2 community.

  • @Asian_J3sus
    @Asian_J3sus 4 года назад

    The fact that the non cheating won, shows their raw skill. It’s hard to win against such exploits. I play a lot of sports and if cheating ever took place, the opposite team has almost no chance at winning.

  • @antthegord9411
    @antthegord9411 4 года назад

    immortalized? I couldn't even keep their name throughout this single yt vid. immortal my ass lol

  • @ethanhowe6731
    @ethanhowe6731 4 года назад +1

    Apollo you did nothing wrong. They took advantage of you and you did the right thing. I agree 100% with you. Great job and you did the best you could do.

  • @ethancarlson1973
    @ethancarlson1973 4 года назад +1

    You did the right thing. They are nothing but scumbags.

  • @sonphan8174
    @sonphan8174 4 года назад

    Cheat = learn nothing
    While everyone is learning, you learn nothing, eventually you fall behind and lost.

  • @NA-xg1ji
    @NA-xg1ji 4 года назад +2

    I bet those cheaters didn't even have any snacks or drinks with them when they were cheating.

  • @-Zevin-
    @-Zevin- 4 года назад

    I vote you cast an entire Rome 2 replay in this voice 1:29.

  • @Senegal259
    @Senegal259 4 года назад

    This is why so many,many people don't do MP. I don't give a damn how good you think you, or claim you are. I play a game for fun only. If you cheat to win,you are gone.

  • @giannismichailidis9164
    @giannismichailidis9164 4 года назад +1

    Apollo I would like to see a navy battle

  • @Jostyy
    @Jostyy 4 года назад

    “Rent free in the minds of thousands” can they cope any harder? Because I doubt their Ego will be able to stand up to the scorn their infamy has brought

  • @connorplankey5392
    @connorplankey5392 4 года назад

    I just play this game and watch these videos for fun, I'm not good at it and would never been be able to win any tournament game. It's honestly so disgusting to me that people cheat in the MLB, NFL, NHL, and professional sports, but like at least they have a motive?? But like cheating in something like this? Why? What's even the point? The only thing you are doing is being a jerk, you get absolutely nothing out of it even if you don't get caught. Any cheater is gross, but if you do it during a game just between friends and people that you trust you're just a terrible person.

  • @hmhboss4378
    @hmhboss4378 4 года назад

    I’m not going to lie, but I’ve never even heard the phrase “living rent free in your head”....

  • @liamyoung7635
    @liamyoung7635 4 года назад

    Ive never even played total war before but I love the game and its community but to see a team cheat like that and still think there so good is pathetic congrats to the unknown team and players who won against the cheaters. Total winners you have no honour and should be ashamed.

  • @marksheen4873
    @marksheen4873 4 года назад

    “No bias, like a journalist” lol

  • @tzimiscelord8483
    @tzimiscelord8483 4 года назад

    As long as it wasnt the good ol boys in the dark cloud

  • @warlord0877
    @warlord0877 4 года назад +1

    Apollo is too nice

  • @alphaxwarchief6092
    @alphaxwarchief6092 4 года назад

    Everyone lets go bully Gibson and Spetsnaz now

  • @juubakka5463
    @juubakka5463 4 года назад

    Imagine being such a sociopath that you cheat to win a game that only like 8 people play in the world? Immortalized in the heads of thousands? Dude needs professional help before something happens. Embarrassing indeed.

  • @Joeking1231
    @Joeking1231 4 года назад

    Solution: Get married and have as many babies as possible. Will totally change your perspective on what's important, and you'll be happy just to play at all!

  • @animagination9933
    @animagination9933 4 года назад

    Pause the video at 26:54 so it's not over... Then go get em ;)

  • @tylerschofield
    @tylerschofield 4 года назад

    Cheating in a total war community non official event is so sad. And i mean sad in a pathetic way.

  • @erenrager6679
    @erenrager6679 4 года назад

    Ehhh... I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but those messages.
    Ugh... someone needs a reality check. This is just a game, they did nothing heroic that I can think of, what the heck are they bragging about?
    Being cheaters is another thing, a sore loser another, and a psycho with a god-complex is another level. But rolled into one? Damn.

  • @ned9542
    @ned9542 4 года назад

    That message the guy left is so cringe im dying over here 😂

  • @firefox3977
    @firefox3977 4 года назад +269

    Anyone else just go, "JUST TELL US PLEASE." Halfway through the video? 😂 just me?

    • @dking6021
      @dking6021 3 года назад +11

      For fuck sake yes, its really late, but like, I don't care at all about all the caveats....

  • @Shane-bosh
    @Shane-bosh 4 года назад +1853

    The fact that they cheated and still lost and got exposed by Apollo is for cheating is rough

    • @thefalloutphoenix
      @thefalloutphoenix 4 года назад +41

      Its hilarious

    • @issakonfourou7586
      @issakonfourou7586 4 года назад +38

      Mercz Apollo didn't expose them it was the community
      Edit 1: thanks for likes
      Edit: OMG thanks for 31 likes holy shit

    • @willdabeasttt
      @willdabeasttt 4 года назад +35

      It's deserved

    • @issakonfourou7586
      @issakonfourou7586 4 года назад +2

      @@jordanbautista5874 who?

    • @Shane-bosh
      @Shane-bosh 4 года назад +15

      @@jordanbautista5874 he kinda did, some people didn't know about them cheating so he kinda did expose them with uploading a video explaining it

  • @finnjoseph8855
    @finnjoseph8855 4 года назад +1404

    Apollo: I’m not mad I’m just disappointed
    Me: *laughing* it’s papa Apollo

    • @cowmanmooing6624
      @cowmanmooing6624 4 года назад +4

      Lol

    • @dmt_useless2254
      @dmt_useless2254 4 года назад +11

      I am so sorry for apollo but i think they got what they deserved they were very egotistical and they thought that they were better than everyone but what really disapoints me is that becouse of the total winners the tournament was altered heavily even in the first one someone else could have won if the total winners did not cheat and dc like the ducks could have made it further or any other team and now in this one they replaced one or more normal total war rome 2 players who just wanted to have fun in these tournaments batteling it out with other players they definitely got what they deserved they didn play the tournament for fun they played it because they wanted to be known as the best but that i think is normal for people who are egotistical to cheat just for attention but they also manipulated apollo who trusted them deeply and ruined the fun tournament and i hope nothing pike this happens again and by cheating they didnt get immortalized as the best no no no they ruined their name and killed by killed i mean utterly destroyed their reputation ( i am very sorry for the long comment and wrong grammer and stuff if you read this appolo I really like your videos keep up the good work and keep on doing fun stuuf like this tournament and this is not your fault love your vids keep posting them) (please do a total war rome 2 campaining)

    • @raypluswatpent6823
      @raypluswatpent6823 4 года назад +4

      Nobody Jones You are getting to excited and angry about their cheating.

    • @levimurdoch3918
      @levimurdoch3918 4 года назад

      Big Papa

    • @klyk69
      @klyk69 4 года назад

      @Nobody Jones
      no need for homophobic slurs mate

  • @someaussieguy140
    @someaussieguy140 4 года назад +367

    “I’m gonna approach this video like a journalist, not really show any bias”
    I don’t know what journalists your talking about.

    • @jaro551
      @jaro551 4 года назад +3

      @@raptornugget5385 maybe in America

    • @tristanbernek631
      @tristanbernek631 3 года назад +21

      Journalists are all bias little shits who like to cause trouble in any nation

    • @mountainman1728
      @mountainman1728 3 года назад

      sports journalist

    • @oddgerman3775
      @oddgerman3775 3 года назад +6

      @@jaro551 In Britian too you ever seen BBC news lmao

    • @Pt_Lacky
      @Pt_Lacky 3 года назад +2

      @@jaro551 The news is biased everywhere, whether it is run by business or government. It will be to push the relevant agenda, whether that be for money or votes.

  • @514YulJag
    @514YulJag 4 года назад +1672

    Immortalized because of a video game? What a bunch of neck beards.

    • @jesspayne5548
      @jesspayne5548 4 года назад +9

      note importa ye sorta

    • @ma_name_is_jaff4119
      @ma_name_is_jaff4119 4 года назад +5

      note importa you good dude?

    • @SIRMMA
      @SIRMMA 4 года назад +20

      Was that a micro-aggression?

    • @ma_name_is_jaff4119
      @ma_name_is_jaff4119 4 года назад +6

      note importa you really gonna bash someone in for saying something about neck beards?

    • @thejboy5596
      @thejboy5596 4 года назад +6

      Ma_Name_ Is_Jaff Damn straight we are! Neck beard lives matter!

  • @felixche4375
    @felixche4375 4 года назад +182

    Total Virgins: "We have been Immortalized in the minds of thousands"
    Apollo: Ai so we gonna treat them like Carthage and just salt the earth n forget about them.

    • @sadok6066
      @sadok6066 4 года назад +3

      savage 😂😂😂

    • @BluEclipse94
      @BluEclipse94 4 года назад +2

      Except Carthage was never forgotten lol.

    • @DoctorChained
      @DoctorChained 4 года назад +5

      @@BluEclipse94 The average person doesn't know what Carthage is. They've heard of the Roman Empire though.

    • @BluEclipse94
      @BluEclipse94 4 года назад +1

      @@DoctorChained In a lot of countries, even elementary school history classes teach about Rome and Carthage, so it is pretty basic stuff, same like ancient Greece.

  • @SirEnglishBatman
    @SirEnglishBatman 4 года назад +725

    So they were the team in the last tournament that DC'd when they were about to get rekt by the cav that sallied out? I remember the chat, EVERYBODY knew the timing was too convenient.

    • @seamussmyth1928
      @seamussmyth1928 4 года назад +11

      What does DC mean?

    • @SunnyGoodbye
      @SunnyGoodbye 4 года назад +87

      @@seamussmyth1928 Disconnect, such as when your internet suddenly stops working.

    • @michaelbiri6676
      @michaelbiri6676 4 года назад +10

      @@seamussmyth1928 You Switch off your Router, instead of Alt +F4

    • @seamussmyth1928
      @seamussmyth1928 4 года назад +2

      @@SunnyGoodbye ab, thank you Øyvind

    • @timgo197
      @timgo197 4 года назад +25

      Yeap. I remember that. That was so dumb.

  • @tdh2044
    @tdh2044 4 года назад +212

    Imagine cheating in a total war game, you really must have no life 😂😂😂

  • @williamguan6735
    @williamguan6735 4 года назад +1407

    Honestly, Apollo handled this situation so maturely and appropriately. I don't think I would have done what he did if I was in his position.

    • @aidanbazarnic9246
      @aidanbazarnic9246 4 года назад +31

      I would have gotten REALLY mad. Honestly

    • @realone4993
      @realone4993 4 года назад +11

      True lol

    • @pradyutbhattacharjee3636
      @pradyutbhattacharjee3636 4 года назад +1

      True indeed.

    • @janhruby190
      @janhruby190 4 года назад +2

      Think for yourself. Do not believe everything you hear. This is subjective as hell and events circumstancial at best are explained as hard evidence. I haven't been part of the tournament, but besides the pull through it is just a wild tale from Apollo. Cheap and shameful

    • @jeffthemercenary
      @jeffthemercenary 4 года назад

      nice

  • @wamesdjatson7398
    @wamesdjatson7398 4 года назад +543

    Man more than 10 bloody minutes in and still haven't heard what they actually did, I love you Apollo but GET TO THE POINT. I understand your frustration and everything else you say does need to be said but please next time you need to do something like this tell us about the actual cheating first then go and say what this means for the community etc. If you want to remain unbiased give us the events first and then talk about what they mean to you, so we may draw our own conclusions first before hearing yours.

    • @marcomahardika5133
      @marcomahardika5133 4 года назад +70

      Man i was so curious abt what cheat did they use because i didn't even know we can cheat in TW, but then apollo just like saying the same thing over and over again everytime i thought he is gonna start explaining, lol

    • @mwshiftytoo
      @mwshiftytoo 4 года назад +5

      total winners burner account

    • @FluffyKittye
      @FluffyKittye 4 года назад +17

      like fuck man get on with it haha

    • @HvacHeathen
      @HvacHeathen 4 года назад +3

      let him do his thing g

    • @executor5588
      @executor5588 4 года назад +15

      Yes please, I support his message. GET TO THE POINT!

  • @vickgalan6763
    @vickgalan6763 4 года назад +599

    Man the Honey Badgers (the non-cheating team) look like Spartans to my eyes right now. But better, since they won. They must be really good players.

    • @ewout2763
      @ewout2763 4 года назад +38

      vick galan they also have a killer name. I mean: Honey Badgers. That just sounds cool!

    • @ulfr5873
      @ulfr5873 4 года назад +10

      They are really good! The Hungry Wolves has made some fine warriors out of them lol.

    • @ewout2763
      @ewout2763 4 года назад +5

      @@ulfr5873 What do they have to do with the hungry wolves?

    • @AcornSmokes420
      @AcornSmokes420 4 года назад +3

      Ewout faced them in the last tournament

    • @dejack_13
      @dejack_13 4 года назад

      sparta sucks

  • @antitroller101
    @antitroller101 4 года назад +248

    So to list the cheating tricks:
    - Used broken mechanics of TW to break the enemy
    - Tried to get as much powers as possible to make rules beneficial to their tactics and play-style
    - Played against their own teammates in the 1st round so said teammates can throw the match and move forward in the Tourny
    - Planted a friend as ref so the illegal moves are not called out
    - (Possible) Purposeful disconnecting when losing to restart the match
    Am I missing anything else to how a team can sink so low (in a COMMUNITY TORNY of all things)

    • @TheGraham217
      @TheGraham217 4 года назад +11

      And then still lost!!! Lol

    • @antitroller101
      @antitroller101 4 года назад +7

      @@TheGraham217 How does one fail that hard despite so many advantages? One has to try to do that.

    • @pjishomo
      @pjishomo 4 года назад +8

      And after losing calling themselves legends

    • @worlore1651
      @worlore1651 4 года назад +1

      Drag and dropped 5 times

    • @EmporerAaron
      @EmporerAaron 3 года назад +9

      Thank you for listing what they did since no one else did in the comments when I wanted to know exactly what they did.
      I was like did they use a cheat code or something? And looking at your list I can understand and find it funny they still lost. Lesson here obviously is cheaters don't win for long.

  • @fishnujish1511
    @fishnujish1511 4 года назад +522

    "Treat them like Rome did to Carthage!" said Apollo. OK. YOU HEARD TOBIAS. GATHER THE LEGIONS, WE BURN THEM DOWN TO ASHES.

  • @violatorut2003
    @violatorut2003 4 года назад +46

    “We will be immortalized.”
    Yup, immortalized in shame.

  • @The6Foot4Asian
    @The6Foot4Asian 4 года назад +142

    “We’ve been immortalized and now live rent free in the heads of thousands” is pretty representative of the mind-set of school shooters.

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 4 года назад +2

      More like a sad day at their funeral.

    • @pyroparagon8945
      @pyroparagon8945 4 года назад +1

      Yeah, that's true.

    • @xBurzurkurx
      @xBurzurkurx 4 года назад +2

      This whole thing that happened has probably fucked with their heads pretty hard ironically. Stay safe cause there are some actual fucking weirdo's out there and video games have shown me a lot

  • @LTGRAVES
    @LTGRAVES 4 года назад +768

    Wtf, “We’ve been immortalized.” Someone is extremely full of themselves.

    • @eclipsexfade9522
      @eclipsexfade9522 4 года назад +19

      Hamish Newton Shut up you're bad

    • @ethancarlson1973
      @ethancarlson1973 4 года назад +11

      Agreed.

    • @princefriedman3025
      @princefriedman3025 4 года назад +4

      Sounds like a troll to me. No one in their right mind would ever say something like that

    • @williamhaines7876
      @williamhaines7876 4 года назад +1

      its a fucking total war community tournament OMEGALUL

    • @raeaugustus586
      @raeaugustus586 4 года назад +2

      @@hamishnewtonimsorryimsosca2171 Sore.... LOSER!

  • @ellingtonGaming
    @ellingtonGaming 4 года назад +62

    Yup guys. That's pretty much the gist of things. The pull throughs in the match i covered in my video are what led us down this deep dark rabbit hole.sad day :/

    • @Naeron66
      @Naeron66 4 года назад +5

      Funnily enough when PA said it I thought it was "Dragon Drop" and I was "What? There are Dragon's in R2?".

    • @ellingtonGaming
      @ellingtonGaming 4 года назад +1

      @@Naeron66 thatd be awesome..... lol

    • @jameswg13
      @jameswg13 4 года назад +1

      The ref thing was pretty obvious once explained but was the an actual previous ref with that name and they impersonated them or

  • @Matt-rd5oy
    @Matt-rd5oy 4 года назад +453

    How to waste your team :
    1: cheat
    2: lose
    3: getting caught
    You guys are indeed Total winners... Ah you poor things.
    Edit : "being immortalized as the best" ok this one pisses me off. Who the hell they think they are ? God I hate people who think they're superior to others, and above all, they cheated so that they could call themeselves like that. I'm sorry to be that pissed but that's the kind of human being I dispise IRL and in games as well... I kinda am sorry to say that but damn it son.

    • @bloo6639
      @bloo6639 4 года назад +13

      Plo Koon they did.. nobody knows if they cheated or not but they had the crown stripped and the new winner is hungry wolves

    • @bloo6639
      @bloo6639 4 года назад +13

      Hamish Newton ill stop by to dislike all of them

    • @aidanbazarnic9246
      @aidanbazarnic9246 4 года назад +1

      I am on the same page as you. Definitely.

    • @514YulJag
      @514YulJag 4 года назад +14

      Hamish Newton nobody want to watch your midlife crisis videos.

    • @hyperion3145
      @hyperion3145 4 года назад +8

      @@hamishnewtonimsorryimsosca2171 You're really going to advertise on the comments of someone else's channel? At least make noteworthy content if you want people to notice you.

  • @lukemadison4550
    @lukemadison4550 4 года назад +39

    I’m so glad they got caught I watched the lat tournament and hungry wolves seemed to play better and those disconnects were just to conveniently timed to be something other than intentional

  • @wagusteakfillets3329
    @wagusteakfillets3329 4 года назад +172

    And I would have got away with it to, if it weren’t for those meddling kids!
    Oh wait, I wouldn’t have anyway

    • @ewout2763
      @ewout2763 4 года назад +8

      Hamish Newton why are you advertising your channel here? It is completly unrelated....

  • @Blueqoose
    @Blueqoose 4 года назад +83

    Apollo: "I'm trying to be unbiased as possible towards the cheaters."
    Also Apollo: Completely smashes on the cheaters.
    Lmao I love you dude.

    • @tortureddesert3453
      @tortureddesert3453 2 года назад +2

      He didn't actually smash he literally just described what they did in the truest light

    • @Blueqoose
      @Blueqoose 2 года назад +2

      @@tortureddesert3453 And I loved it.

  • @curtiswatson4192
    @curtiswatson4192 4 года назад +289

    Tobias Bennet will be IMMORTALISED as the BEST and will live rent free in the heads of THOUSANDS

    • @whitecat1441
      @whitecat1441 4 года назад +2

      underated Comments

    • @Nyx-pf2qb
      @Nyx-pf2qb 4 года назад

      And Apollo Constantine will be immortalized WITH the heads of thousands

    • @orkinho1
      @orkinho1 4 года назад

      ON TOP OF THE HEADS Of THOUSANDS YOU MEAN¡¡
      oh shit my bad, I confused Tobbias with Apollo the mighty headtaker.

    • @ethancarlson1973
      @ethancarlson1973 4 года назад +1

      The guy who said that is nothing more than a idiot.

  • @LordCharliereal
    @LordCharliereal 4 года назад +89

    "We've been immortalised" OK this guy thinks hes Thanos or some shit.

    • @darthbuzz1
      @darthbuzz1 4 года назад +3

      It is inevitable.

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 4 года назад +4

      Sounds stupid. And cringe.
      Not even epic.
      "We've been immortalised"
      Yeah? So? U can't lose or die right?

    • @finj3636
      @finj3636 4 года назад +1

      Of COURSE people into R2 would have an immortality-complex ;)
      Some clowns will do anything to try to achieve something noteworthy, its happened throughout history, like the guy who destroyed the mausoleum at Halicarnassus.

    • @LordCharliereal
      @LordCharliereal 4 года назад +1

      Thanks for the replies and im glad for your agreements

    • @LordCharliereal
      @LordCharliereal 4 года назад

      @@finj3636 i totally agree like these guys think there gods

  • @pendragon7785
    @pendragon7785 4 года назад +239

    That's so sad and pathetic. Maybe if they spent more time practicing they would have had a better chance. Totally treat them like Carthage

    • @rancor4513
      @rancor4513 4 года назад +7

      BURN THEM DOWN?

    • @sir_muttonchops7963
      @sir_muttonchops7963 4 года назад +12

      CARTHAGO DELENDA EST!!!!!

    • @jasonreagan3904
      @jasonreagan3904 4 года назад +1

      @@sir_muttonchops7963 :)

    • @pergys6991
      @pergys6991 4 года назад +3

      Salt em bois

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 4 года назад

      Very pathetic indeed. If I was the team fighting against them, I would've whipped their asses with my two buddies.
      Baktria, Carthage, Rome, Macedon, Sparta. (Idk what other factions I play, I haven't in awhile).
      Also these total winners are now total losers. The community atleast took the liberty to expose them. Gaming community needs to up their standards especially not to have garbage peeps like "total winners".

  • @SKAM424
    @SKAM424 4 года назад +30

    This is handled with so much humility, I would of been far more aggressive so respect to you Apollo. I can't believe the level that real people have gone too. This whole situation is stupid and just outright pathetic. The community comes together to enjoy the tournament and fair play to those who entered and tested there skills and I get you don't want to cover this battle but these guys won a battle against cheaters, that's pretty impressive.

    • @EmporerAaron
      @EmporerAaron 3 года назад +1

      Of all the things to do...cheat in a tournament of a game yes you play to win in the campaign but its all fun. You play to have fun and theres the old saying "even in defeat you win" because you learn why you lost and grow from it.
      I admit I cheat in the campaign in Rome Total War and Medieval 2 Total War just using the money cheat to make big armies and building cheat just to make better units. I just enjoy watching big armies fight it out all for fun. This, this is just disappointing because what was the point of cheating when the tournament is all for fun.

  • @jojostwin2492
    @jojostwin2492 4 года назад +101

    Cheating team: **cheats**
    Other team: *”omae wa mou shinderu”*
    Cheating team: *”NANI?”*

  • @benjaminmcclelland2464
    @benjaminmcclelland2464 4 года назад +15

    So the total winners were immortalized as the biggest scandal in the Rome 2 scene. And the Hungry Wolves are now the best team.

  • @constantinecondor3470
    @constantinecondor3470 4 года назад +217

    Apollo: *explains new way the Total Winners cheated*
    Me: *Gasp* The plot thickens!

    • @ewout2763
      @ewout2763 4 года назад +1

      Hamish Newton huh?

    • @rancor4513
      @rancor4513 4 года назад +2

      @@hamishnewtonimsorryimsosca2171 Nani? Weirdo

    • @ellingtonGaming
      @ellingtonGaming 4 года назад +4

      Imagine being myself and the other admins as we peeled back layer after layer of this plot >.

    • @ellingtonGaming
      @ellingtonGaming 4 года назад +1

      Imagine being myself, apollo and the other admins as we peeled back layer after layer of this plot >.

    • @gengarpokemon7731
      @gengarpokemon7731 4 года назад

      they cheated the same way as last time and everyone knew it lol

  • @Gnoe1337
    @Gnoe1337 4 года назад +73

    12 mins in and I still barely know how they cheated, Christ for someone who doesn't wanna milk it you do seem to be milking it.

    • @kubajcz
      @kubajcz 4 года назад +14

      @old school gaming thats not an argument against fact that he make the video so long and not explained anything well

    • @podomuss
      @podomuss 3 года назад

      @@kubajcz I prefer the way he made this video, instead of making it a 10-15 minute one

  • @rancor4513
    @rancor4513 4 года назад +248

    Appolo: We need to treat the total *losers* like Rome treats carthage
    Me: *Wait? U want to burn them?*

    • @ewout2763
      @ewout2763 4 года назад +21

      Rainer Tristan And put salt on their corpses!

    • @rubenstaalduinen1765
      @rubenstaalduinen1765 4 года назад +19

      throw salt on their fields so they can never harvest again😂

    • @racoonnylord4343
      @racoonnylord4343 4 года назад +1

      and "Drive salt" into the ground, because that definitely happened and totally wasn't just some medieval guy trying to make Rome look cooler

    • @ewout2763
      @ewout2763 4 года назад +1

      @@racoonnylord4343 yes. I translated those very sentences myself at school.

    • @joshleski4631
      @joshleski4631 4 года назад

      salt their houses!

  • @99IronDuke
    @99IronDuke 4 года назад +18

    I remember a great many people calling 'Total Winners' total cheaters in the last tournament. Seems it was well deserved. @Pixelated Apollo all the teams related to 'Total Winners' should be banned.

    • @draydenhill2558
      @draydenhill2558 4 года назад +3

      Were the Total Winners the siege tower glitch guys? Cuz I remember that, and when Apollo put it up to a poll there was this huge boom in the poll that everybody was pretty sure was bots.

    • @caledonhockley883
      @caledonhockley883 4 года назад

      Drayden Hill my team played them and they done that in the first round. We lost because of it🙁

  • @luisalbertosolisvillagomez6986
    @luisalbertosolisvillagomez6986 4 года назад +155

    You should just ban everything Total cheaters related, they used everything they could to rig the tournament, none of its members should be allowed anywhere near of the community again, disavow them, but also let know the whole community of this team immortalize them as the Total Cheaters they are.

    • @ewout2763
      @ewout2763 4 года назад +7

      Hamish Newton what?

    • @stupidbot7447
      @stupidbot7447 4 года назад +2

      Apollo is too lenient and they took advantage of that.

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 4 года назад

      @Mr Culec agreed, I didn't have to watch, I just looked at them.

    • @flotnar2512
      @flotnar2512 4 года назад +1

      They can just come back with different usernames tho. Likely they already have.

  • @FrostFire626
    @FrostFire626 4 года назад +14

    Being concise would be helpful. You're very long winded here.

  • @ryanhinrichs7353
    @ryanhinrichs7353 4 года назад +229

    Oogway: “there are no accidents”

  • @maddawg9636
    @maddawg9636 4 года назад +37

    Start watching from 5:00, that's when he starts explaining how they cheated.

    • @TokenWhiteGuyAGR
      @TokenWhiteGuyAGR 4 года назад +24

      Try 12:00 instead. Jesus what a long winded intro.

    • @maddawg9636
      @maddawg9636 4 года назад +7

      @@TokenWhiteGuyAGR Yeah i know hahha

    • @Euan_Miller43
      @Euan_Miller43 4 года назад

      Token White Guy it’s an Apollo thing

  • @ericjustice5742
    @ericjustice5742 4 года назад +40

    Apollo: I don't want to milk this.
    Twenty minutes later
    In all seriousness though, some people thrive on power no matter how minuscule that power can be.

  • @misterd5159
    @misterd5159 4 года назад +9

    Hey, I’m pretty new in the tournament thing
    But through the whole video I got 2 questions in my mind :
    1. what are these rules that they wanted in their favor ? You mention it multiple times but won’t tell us ( like specific strategies not allowed ? Or this or that unit banned ? )
    2. How many refs are there in a game like this in a tournament ? Because for me having a ref in a game like this for the purpose of overlooking the game has no real influence in the game or am I wrong ?

    • @erenrager6679
      @erenrager6679 4 года назад +1

      Well, I dunno about your first question. But the second about the referee is quite important. Even if they don't have a direct influence in the game, it is useful to have things be witnessed in realtime just in case.

  • @DeadPxlTV
    @DeadPxlTV 4 года назад +75

    Tsk tsk imagine cheating and still lose in a community tournament.

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 4 года назад +1

      Especially cheating on a community event "Tournament for fun"

  • @johntheknight3062
    @johntheknight3062 4 года назад +290

    Looser starterpack:
    1. Name yourself by the most cringe and egoistic name possible.
    2. Cheat.
    3. Loose with cheats.
    4. Act like some kind of legend.
    I mean how poor soul you must be to do this? Cheating in for fun tournament and acting like some kind fo hero. These guys must be some really sad individuals with no life whatsoever... But their ego is just on the Moon.

    • @rancor4513
      @rancor4513 4 года назад +5

      Hhhmmmm it's either they just want to win or they have clinical dapression

    • @mynamejeb8743
      @mynamejeb8743 4 года назад +2

      probably some spoiled 8 y.os

    • @johntheknight3062
      @johntheknight3062 4 года назад +6

      @@mynamejeb8743 The sad thing about this is at least their leader is actually adult.

    • @johntheknight3062
      @johntheknight3062 4 года назад +5

      @@rancor4513 Or they are just bunch of sad idiots.

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 4 года назад +4

      @@johntheknight3062 ur kidding right??
      Teenagers cheating yeah believable but fucking adult? I'm sorry but to play a 6 year old fking game with a large community still playing those games. Really? Ppl have to cheat in a fking total war game??? That's so garbage. They didn't even win which is so fking funny.
      1. Using ppl from their own group on the first round.
      2. Cheat by having them lose and they advance next round.
      3. Cheat by having an admin and another wannabe admin after a miscommunication.
      4. They break the rules that's set in a matter of afew mins.
      5. Just embarrassing lost their match or matches (also the disconnects)
      6. Apollo did his job! :) Posting this video to explain.

  • @marshaloftheussr8239
    @marshaloftheussr8239 4 года назад +2

    Hi Apollo if your interested we have a 24 team tournament going right now with a lot of new faces and a strong core of teams who quit the original competition due to this and other problems that were present. We have lots of small youtubers that have promised to make videos but your coverage would be much appreciated. The ruleset is almost exactly the same but admins can't play and community votes help solve issues.

  • @lolbenz
    @lolbenz 4 года назад +76

    Total cheaters?? Wasnt that the same in the last tourny?

  • @Samuel-xu1jr
    @Samuel-xu1jr 4 года назад +4

    Did i just watch 15 min of this video thinking that it was some type of heavy cheat when it was just pulling a unit thru? Yes i did

  • @Wildboy789789
    @Wildboy789789 4 года назад +25

    Total winners is such a troll name too... they r bad people, period, ill say it, they dont care about the community or other players

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 4 года назад

      They even use ppl from their group to win the first round. And use ppl on the inside. How fucking sad, that they planned it all out and lost. That's some very extensive cheating I ever seen on a fking TOTAL WAR GAME!?!? Shooter community be like "These idiots suck!"

  • @dimitargeorgiev8663
    @dimitargeorgiev8663 4 года назад +5

    arent you supposed to be involved in this tournament? only covered 1 battle so far ..also my head hurts after this video, you should make scrips before making a video, trying to explain something.. i mean idk what your talking about half the time and you are all over the place

  • @イマドット
    @イマドット 4 года назад +25

    Im sad to hear that this happened i hope in the next tournament it will never happen again

  • @madcow1326
    @madcow1326 4 года назад +56

    This tournament is still my favourite event ever on RUclips despite this!

    • @madcow1326
      @madcow1326 4 года назад +2

      Oof total winners as well!! I thought they were cool

  • @UchronianKing
    @UchronianKing 4 года назад +6

    I understand Apollo's reason for uploading this video: it's a lesson to all would-be cheaters. How very sad that gamers feel the need to cheat and gain false attainment. For one thing, it isn't nearly as fulfilling as gaining a true victory, by verve of skill and hours of effort and self-discipline to improve strategies. We all like to win, of course, in any academic or sporting event. But I'd sooner enjoy the game itself, whether the outcome is to win honestly, or to lose graciously, and in whichever result there's a certain nobility. I've been in multiplayer matches where obviously some gamers used cheats to 'hide' in the scenery, God-mode, or whatever annoying tech trickery they employ - and all just to get high kill scores. Admittedly, I'm not the best of gamers, but still enjoy the experience, win or lose. There have been times when my own incompetence during gaming gets the better of my temper (you know, we've all done the exasperated 'GRRRR!'), a recent example is when I was playing GTA IV and got killed half a dozen times during certain missions. Reloading from Niko's mobile phone meant losing money I had to pay at the hospital, $3000 to $4000 dollars worth! But I persevered and, in the end, patted myself on the back for doing so without losing too much money. This is one reason why I prefer to go back and save at the safehouse (excuse the pun) between missions, so I don't lose money by reloading from the actual menu. Back to the issue on cheating, a teacher at school once said: 'If you cheat, you cheat yourself'. He meant that cheaters, during an exam or a test, don't earn their result by hard work and learning from mistakes, which is a very important part of life, and to try again, another important lesson in life. I'm in complete agreement with the banishment process. We don't need dishonest fans of Rome 2 to spoil what should be casual, honest fun.

  • @Dangelboyd
    @Dangelboyd 4 года назад +18

    I knew there was something fishy about the last tournament! A big thank you to all who got involved in the investigation. A smashing well done to Honey Badgers for winning that game and a round of applause for Apollo for keeping us all in the loop and calling out bullshit. They're living in the heads of thousands alright, but not for the reason they hoped. Onward and upwards!

    • @Dangelboyd
      @Dangelboyd 4 года назад +3

      @@deadronin9958 Top man! ;)

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 4 года назад +1

      I wouldve loved to kick their asses.

  • @ritaDas-xl4kz
    @ritaDas-xl4kz 4 года назад +27

    I like the tournament and cheating is something they did but still lost just means that if you do cheating the tournament hates you and god does too....

    • @delanovanraalte3186
      @delanovanraalte3186 4 года назад

      I dont think god exist

    • @ritaDas-xl4kz
      @ritaDas-xl4kz 4 года назад +1

      @@delanovanraalte3186 But in mine god does..

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 4 года назад

      More like community just kicked their ass. Which shows ppl actually care about the community and Apollo.

  • @adriannazaruk9572
    @adriannazaruk9572 4 года назад +21

    Apollo must feel so let down by these guys. Love the totalwar tornements keep going apollo it's not your bad. some people are just wired wrong.

    • @realone4993
      @realone4993 4 года назад +3

      @@hamishnewtonimsorryimsosca2171 dude stop

    • @hyperion3145
      @hyperion3145 4 года назад +2

      @@realone4993 Report his comments as spam, because that's what they are

  • @kamilplonski3804
    @kamilplonski3804 4 года назад +3

    Apollo u need to learn to spit it out lmao. Dragged this video hella long. Could been 5-10 mins long easily

  • @HarduntheRanger
    @HarduntheRanger 4 года назад +19

    I didn't understand why you were being so distant until you brought up their quote. So cringeworthy XD

    • @QixTheDS
      @QixTheDS 4 года назад +7

      Hamish Newton stop advertising on everyone’s comments.

    • @cowboy1772
      @cowboy1772 4 года назад +2

      Hamish Newton Bro chill

  • @siaszirthe3334
    @siaszirthe3334 4 года назад +6

    What makes this situation even worst is the possibility that some of the members of Total Winners may not have been in the know about the cheating (a very small possibility but is still possible) and as a result, will have their reputations destroyed because of the actions of greedy and selfish people.
    Also, do not put yourself down Apollo. You and the rest of the TWR2 community had their trust destroyed because of a couple of bad eggs.

  • @madcow1326
    @madcow1326 4 года назад +29

    I want the honey Badgers to win now

  • @elicain8263
    @elicain8263 4 года назад +49

    Well who knows someone who disliked is on the notification squad

    • @cielshello4528
      @cielshello4528 4 года назад +1

      Prolly some trolls :V

    • @Shane-bosh
      @Shane-bosh 4 года назад +11

      @@cielshello4528 its the kids who just want Bannerlord

    • @cielshello4528
      @cielshello4528 4 года назад +2

      @@Shane-bosh Didn't think about that but yeah maybe

    • @ritaDas-xl4kz
      @ritaDas-xl4kz 4 года назад +1

      @@Shane-bosh Yeah I think you maybe right..

    • @bloo6639
      @bloo6639 4 года назад +1

      Herc J 100%

  • @Stinger913
    @Stinger913 4 года назад +11

    “We gotta salt the fields”. 😂😂😂

  • @robwisniewski7490
    @robwisniewski7490 4 года назад +10

    Well this is very upsetting. I heard the rumor about TW Academy last night by Ellington. So now what? My team is Veni, Vedi, Vici and we played TW Academy in the first round. And I'm sure as you know what it was the same ref. Cause he threatened to end the match for nonsense several times. I know we can't go back in time. But I think we, at least, deserve a spot in the next tourney.

    • @DraconisSmith
      @DraconisSmith 4 года назад +1

      All we can do is either restart, or wait for the next time bud. Sorry for the inconvenience.

    • @robwisniewski7490
      @robwisniewski7490 4 года назад +1

      @@DraconisSmith My team deserves a fair match

    • @braydenjames4419
      @braydenjames4419 4 года назад +4

      @@DraconisSmith I've never played TW but I've watched enough of Apollo's videos to know that if you are a part of Apollo's tourney admins you should let this team into the next tournament, that is absolutely what Apollo would do. I know there is no prize for winning the tourney but the team was robbed of a good time, that is as long as the Total Winners Academy was in fact also cheating. Please keep this in mind

    • @robwisniewski7490
      @robwisniewski7490 4 года назад +1

      @@braydenjames4419 Thanks! Just want a fair one for my boys.

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 4 года назад +3

      Which is why u never do matches with those losers. TW academy for cheaters. They only care about winning and their reputation (which is now Academy of cheats) that's the name I'd give them

  • @avalonnnnnnnnnnnn
    @avalonnnnnnnnnnnn 4 года назад +36

    Damn, Total War multiplayer is more complicated than I thought. This is why I enjoy single player.

    • @mynamejeb8743
      @mynamejeb8743 4 года назад +1

      same 😂

    • @AcornSmokes420
      @AcornSmokes420 4 года назад

      A lot of online games are toxic now I miss 2005 where online was awesome and cool now it’s blah 😒

    • @anthonybarnes1903
      @anthonybarnes1903 4 года назад +1

      @@AcornSmokes420 hell, even gta 5 is kinda annoying, to be honest.

    • @xBurzurkurx
      @xBurzurkurx 4 года назад +1

      @@AcornSmokes420 I remember seeing 'ONLINE' at the bottom of a PS2 game back in the day and i was blown away

    • @AcornSmokes420
      @AcornSmokes420 4 года назад

      xBurzurkurx I been online since 2002, Xbox live until days gone release and never went back

  • @MarioFlores-ni3kj
    @MarioFlores-ni3kj 4 года назад +14

    DC’ing means to disconnect.

    • @jorgeantelo1351
      @jorgeantelo1351 4 года назад +1

      Thank u, 9/10 I dont get those references

  • @scariestrobin8647
    @scariestrobin8647 4 года назад +23

    I can’t believe the Total Winners did that.

    • @marshaloftheussr8239
      @marshaloftheussr8239 4 года назад +8

      You obviously haven't been on the discord server, these people were being toxic and changing rules during the first 2 rounds of the tournament. The cheating actually annoyed me less than their attitude towards the community.

    • @jacquesmouton1339
      @jacquesmouton1339 4 года назад +2

      @@marshaloftheussr8239 Don't lump the actions of a few toxic individuals with an entire community.

    • @niki8280
      @niki8280 4 года назад

      I can. They already did cheat in the previous one.

    • @marshaloftheussr8239
      @marshaloftheussr8239 4 года назад +3

      @@jacquesmouton1339 I'm not, I'm saying they had an awful attitude towards the community, I'm one of the team leaders I know a lot of people who quit because them.

    • @jacquesmouton1339
      @jacquesmouton1339 4 года назад

      @@marshaloftheussr8239 You should see how many of them quit because of it as well.

  • @metsko2318
    @metsko2318 4 года назад +9

    19:36 first off, cringe!

  • @ecthelionnoldo876
    @ecthelionnoldo876 4 года назад +15

    When the next shield wall episode the added a new really hard battle and it is so much fun

  • @frenchmonk94
    @frenchmonk94 4 года назад +8

    I'm sorry to hear this happened Apollo.
    Drama is such a recurring trend, however you want to look at it.
    I dealt with it plenty of times in M&B community. I'm just glad to see you're dealing with it in a very constructive way.

    • @madcow1326
      @madcow1326 4 года назад +2

      Your channel has really grown since I last checked it out!

    • @frenchmonk94
      @frenchmonk94 4 года назад +3

      @@madcow1326 Apollo's or mine?
      I'm assuming mine :P
      Resonant gave me a bunch of shoutouts this year alone. Without him my channel would not have grown much I think xD

  • @ryanbarron5696
    @ryanbarron5696 4 года назад +13

    This is just sad....