I’m a women and when I was listening to this episode I realized how nice it is to hear 3 adult men talking about these stories involving emotions and layers and things that I don’t normally get to her guys talk about. Great of you guys to share and be vulnerable. I love the confidence!!!
The first story the sister DID NOT initiate the fight IMO. He slammed someone else's property she said be careful because everyone in the home uses it. It wasn't his to slam. He could've went to his room and vented on his own things. He wanted to argue thats why he was throwing a fit in front of everyone. The sister defended herself after he called her a b*tch. She shouldn't get involved in the brother and dad's business though unless her opinion is asked. It's hard cause it's your parent but that's also their parent. The brother needs therapy and not from his mom. No one should have to walk on egg shells when someone is mad. He's an adult and needs to learn to take accountability.
I agreed I strongly disagreed when Taylor said she instigated the fight. Everyone should have the right to kindly ask something of someone if it’s disrespectful or going to damage something everyone utilizes. The sister and brother need family therapy as well as individual because no one just blows up like this either from my own experience
@@Rmrz06. I thought the same thing! Pretty sure I heard Morgan mention on THT or FKS that Taylor choked her at a County Music concert because she told people they're siblings.
Thank you Matt for saying there is no reason the first story’s brother should have punched someone. It doesn’t matter if the sister pushed his buttons there are other ways for that brother to respond. I was a bit taken aback when Taylor put the responsibility on the sister for “pushing his buttons”. That is a slippery slope of validating the brother’s violence/abuse. Its not the victim’s fault for the other person’s violence. I personally think OP and her brother need a lot of space, and a lot of boundaries. Maybe even reconsider if they want to see the brother if the brother is unwilling to talk calmly, communicate, and make changes. I hope he learns to manage his anger before dating someone. While his emotions are valid and he cannot control how he feels, his response is in his control.
I think you missed that OP actually physically pushed her brother, not just his buttons. Still think violence is never the answer in arguments but she did kinda start the violence.
Well, OP said the brother was wanting to physically fight and after they had continued fighting she finally pushed him. It sounds like he wanted her to do that so he COULD punch her and say she pushed me, so I reacted.
I just don't see how shoving someone makes punching them in the face is okay? Take gender out of it completely. Someone shoves you, your immediate reaction shouldn't be to then punch them in the face? Also the asking to make it violent like they were waiting to hurt the sister and have a valid excuse.
@@eleicha there is absolutely a difference between shoving someone and punching someone in the face. If someone shoves you and you're automatic reaction is punch someone in the face, you need therapy.
Y’all literally did listen. He agreed that no type of violence should’ve happened. If y’all would’ve listened that’s what he said but ok he was just saying that’s what triggered it but not that the hitting was okay.
Idk if you remember but I've been asking for new people, like Matt, to come on the show for different opinions on these write ins and I'm so excited to watch! I'm also glad to finally put a face to a name seeing Taylor too! 👏🏼✨
i'm only halfway through the first story and i have two thoughts. taylor is a little cutie and i hope we get to see more of him on either podcast. i absolutely love how matt reads the stories LOL
I’ve burned through almost every Father Knows ep over the past couple months, and was curious to hear Taylor’s takes on the pod this week-mostly given the relatively (?) limited info we’ve heard from Jerry. Taylor had more broad questions and statements; those that my mind also jumped to immediately, given the context, that could’ve only been narrowed by being present in the exact moment as each respective OP. Hearing Taylor vocalize the same initial skepticism that was sitting in the back of my mind was validating. That said, sincere thanks for his participation on FKS this week Only other thought: HAVOC !!! That dog’s psychotic Aussie eyes confirmed it, 10000/10 correct name choice 😂
I’ve been punched in the face and choked by my younger brother, when he was 18 and I was 20. It broke my heart, and took me a solid 6 months to even talk to him again after that. The brother in the first story has anger issues. No kind of tone of voice, mean words, attitude, nothing on this planet should ever make someone think it’s okay to put their hands on someone else man or woman.
1st story. My oldest son is 5 years older than his brother. He constantly tries to parent the younger one. I can see this frustration building up over time. My youngest will get so angry. But If someone disrespects my house/things then they can find someplace else to live.
As someone who is the partner with a difficult relationship with a parent and had a partner who doesn’t like how they treat everyone we have learned a lot together. My partner wants to be there for me, and I made a decision to keep a form or a relationship to that parent, but the difference is having boundaries. When the parent over step, we pull back and let them know what they did is unacceptable and we take space for ourselves. My heart goes out to those in a similar situation. Maybe cutting off the relationship is needed for others, but I made up my own mind and communicated with my partner about everything so they know what’s going on. Took years of emotional pain to get here and it’s still hard. I’m lucky my partner supports me and I give them space to say what they feel too. Love and family sure is complicated.
I just had to pause when Taylor put the blame on the sister in the 1st story. The fact that one comment about the fridge lead to a huge argument where he punched his sister in the face is a HUGE red flag. I love this podcast so I’m going to keep listening and give Taylor the benefit of the doubt here but yeah, red flag and there’s no justifying that kind of violence.
I agree. It gave me the ick hearing him out right blame the sister for making a simple comment/suggestion. A bit strange that he essentially enables that type of violence. Yikes.
Yeah agreed. I immediately hated him after this which is crazy bc it's the first person in the entire family that i even slightly dislike, no less actually strongly. So happy to see other people had the same thoughts and feelings on this.
Y’all literally didnt listen. He agreed that no type of violence should’ve happened. If y’all would’ve listened that’s what he said but ok he was just saying that’s what triggered it but not that the hitting was okay.
@Kasy Davila clearly you're the one that don't listen. Matt almost FORCED him to say violence isn't okay. Before that he was defending the brother, saying she instigated it, she deserved it, and it was OK what he did.
@@danatruppiana he was literally stating the sister caused the argument. If he was okay with the physical fighting he WOULDNT have agreed with Matt. Why would he agree with him if he thought the physical fighting was okay??? Tyler was only talking about the argument not the actual fight.
The other son in his 20s seems like he has a lot to learn...hes very closed off and guarded...perhaps just nervous bein on cam? I like that the older one fathered the younger sib cuz he seemed to be more on board with the punching guy and not realizing the bigger issue.
The girl that her boyfriend didn’t tell her about the kids: that guy seems so manipulative and really immature. The problem is not you being insecure - him being shady is. You’re just human feeling what any human would feel after that kind of behaviour. He has shown you that he’s willing to hide huge things like him having kids, to manipulate you into moving in with him. He is being shady. You are just reacting to what you are seeing in his behaviour. Trust your gut rather than try and stop listening to it. Trust yourself, because that insecure feeling you have when he’s out is telling you something, it’s your instincts telling you to run.
@@junebug6735 exactly my thoughts- probably because at that age it’s so much easier to manipulate someone, which obviously he did (judging by the fact that she thinks she is the problem)
Wow, I love that I got here super early! Your content is very much appreciated & needed in the world. ❤️ much love & prosperity to you Jerry, Morgan, Justin & the crew 💕✨️
For the guy that hid his kids, my take on the kids mom not wanting them to meet, is bc he has a track record of not keeping relationships, and she doesn't want her kids to get attached to any of his girlfriends. And her asking how she can help herself be less insecure, told me immediately that he's gaslighting her and making it all on her that he just feels so trapped bc of her insecurities. Leeeeaaaave hiiiiim! And take some time to build your self esteem and learning that you deserve way better!
to the person in the last story: consider talking to your boyfriend about helping jumpstart a plan for the mom and everyone from the dad. see if the both of you can sit down with the mom and talk her into getting help from professionals, and get her and the kids out of the house. if she still refuses, maybe look into adopting the younger siblings; it seems like you and your bf would be ruled to be better suited to take care of the kids, and maybe if you both got custody, it would inspire the mom to leave. or if it isn't right for your bf/you to take the kiddos, maybe look into some extended family who a court would like. but if you talk to him about putting some type of plan in motion and he isn't responsive to the help and nothing changes, i think that would be a really good indicator that you would either need to leave or wait a loooooong time for any type of change, if any and to the person whos boyfriend lied about his kids: girl, come on. you're not checking his phone because you respect his privacy, you're not checking because you already know whats on it. how many lies does he have to give before you leave? how many times does he have to cheat before you value yourself more than him? you're better off without him
In the last story, this dysfunction is something our OP is good to note. You are not just in a relationship with a person you have a whole family dynamic behind that person and you have to be able to handle that dynamic as is. You never know what will or won’t change in the future. If it’s unhealthy you don’t have to expose yourself, your own family or any future kids to that. You can care about someone but not be able to handle what a life with them requires. Perfect example of loving someone but them maybe not being the healthiest for you to spend your life with. I respect what BF is trying to do but he needs some therapy work to actually help his siblings and mom and not enable the situation they are in further.
about the girl whose partner hid his children and snapchats other girls: you do not have "trust issues", you have a partner who you cannot trust. If you have been conditioned to feel like you have "issues", that is so telling. he is manipulating you and trying to make you feel guilty for inquiring about his toxic behavior. run so fast and run so far!!!!
The last story: she`s gotta know if she wants to take on that responsibility. But asking him to stop caring for his family is wrong. She should appreciate that he`s such a good guy and not make his life even harder.
The story of the boyfriend with the alcoholic dad I will say this. It is always nice to marry into a family that you love and loves you but I can speak from personal experience. My husband’s family is not great and he personally decided to cut them off a while ago. However, when we first started dating and even when we got married, he was still in contact with them. I basically just made it clear to him that he could have whatever relationship he wants to have with his family, but I will not have a relationship with them and I don’t want our future children to be around people like that. Now we have a daughter and non of us see or talk to his family except his brothers. So he may end up cutting his dad off. He may not, but at the end of the day it’s your decision on if you want to be around them.
I watched this episode this morning and it's now night and I'm still heated at it. I really hope Taylor gets some serious therapy because him sitting there arguing why it was justified for a 20 something year old man to punch his sister in the face because she was nagging him... I worry for any relationship he may have. I know he's young and i understand that has a lot to do w his viewpoint, but since i love you Jerry, Morgan, Matt, Justin and everybody involved in all these podcasts i appreciate that Matt argued the point but yeah, i just strongly encourage therapy so his mental health can get so, so much better and not justify laying hands on a female ever, even if she 'nags' him
Trust issues take a lot of time to recover from, and it takes a partner who is actually trustworthy. That partner does not sound trustworthy. Don't sell yourself short and invest in that relationship anymore. When the partner in question actually gives you no reason to distrust them, then it's time to look internally, work on healing from your triggers and past experiences. It takes a long time to build trust and it's probably not linear. Good luck ❤️ ETA: I'm currently in therapy and I am working through trust issues with a partner who continually proves to me that he is trustworthy.
At first I was wondering why this episode felt very different from other. I think I pin pointed it to the masculine energy haha! it's definitely an odd switch from the usual we see! But I do enjoy it ❤️ Thank you for another good episode ☺️
I don't believe for 1 second that the mother of that man's children doesn't like the girlfriend without ever meeting her. That sounds like a lie that he made up
Is he really saying she instigated getting punched in the face so she should have just not mentioned the fridge!? “What if it’s just not the fridge?” AND? She shouldn’t have pushed him and he shouldn’t have punched her in the face.
Stories Story 1: Instead of pushing the other person away if they aren't physically threatening you, walk away. I have even said, I need to walk away to calm down. He escalated the situation drastically when he hit you OP. Hitting isnjever the answer unless it is in seld defense. Your brother could use some anger management techniques from someone outside the family. Srory 2: Run Op. He is a user, abuser, cheater, and maybe even a narcissist. It will only get worse the longer you stay. Please leave, remove him from any accounts (bank, online, media, change any passwords or pins), and do STIs testing. Never collect your things alone, brings friends to help keep you safe and to make a quick exit. Take photos of everything you take amd how you left the shared housing. Get your important documents and store them somewhere safe. If you can't, they are replacable, you are not. If you feel unsafe, ask the police to supervise whilst collecting your things and go tona safe shelter or somewhere he doesn't safe. Story 3: I would talk to his family. Tell them you love being apart of their life and you have never had this kind of love and kindness. Tell them why you have trouble excepting in a way that you're comfortable with. If they don't want you to pay them back, do small things to show your appreciation. It could be, I was thinking of you when I saw something that reminded me of you, cook them a meal or bake them something, help with a task like cleaning or working outside. Do what you feel comfortable and it can make you feel better and they will see like you care about them. Story 4: I would ask your boyfriend's mom out and ask if she wants help finding a job. If she does, she could use your address for applications. She may need a bank account that isn't at their bank and she can use your address. The abuse is so ingrained, that they don't really see how to get out of it. Counselling is important. You'll need to talk to yoir boyfriend and tell him that the stress is unhealthy for all of you. Years and years of abuse is hard to understand when you haven't lived it. He will need reassurance, counselling, and a life plan. If the life plan isn't going the way you would like together, you may have to leave.
With that first story I would recommend to the OP that they solely focus on their relationship with their brother and not try to manage their brother's relationship with his parents. I know that it's hard to stop doing that and you just want to help but really it just pits you against each other. Before you critique him consider is this something that directly affects me emotionally or my belongings (it sounds like the fridge isn't yours) or is this something that would threaten his immediate health or safety? If not then let it go. I assume your parents are perfectly capable of asking him to take better care of their fridge.
For the story regarding the BF and his abusive father. If you choose your BF to be your life partner you become a team. His family becomes your family. You need to help him protect his siblings and support them. If you want a life without his family it will be without him too. One day he could cut contact, but not while his siblings are in danger. Therapy would be a good idea 🤍 to help him and you
The younger son needs like he still has some learning/maturing to do. He didn’t come up great with the first story. Very interesting episode though. love seeing Matt being in charge of this episode ❤
Second story girl: He's cheating on you. He's lying to you. I know it hurts but you need to face some reality. He's a bad man. Move out. Dump him. Move on and realize you deserve someone you can trust and who loves you in a healthy and respectful way. Don't waste the only life you have and the only years you have with someone like this.
To the girl who thinks her boyfriend is cheating - RUN! Don’t stay with him no matter what he says. He doesn’t deserve you. You deserve better. You have your whole life ahead of you to find true love with someone who won’t lie to you about his kids. Also you were 18 when he started dating you, he’s much older which makes me think he groomed you before you turned 18. Don’t stay with a liar who will control you & cheat on you every chance he gets.
On the 1st story. I have two older brothers and the dynamics are very different. The brother closest to my age use to abuse me in response of being abused himself; This caused a rift in our relationship growing up, as adults we have since talked about things and not only became allies, grew a new sibling relationship. We still fight, but we have a better understanding and respect for each other and can communicate through fights better and learned when we wanna drop it or sort it.
I’m so sorry, I hope this is not rude to say but I really feel what Taylor was saying in the first story was really whack. He came off like he was justifying the brother PUNCHING his sister IN THE FACE. I don’t care what someone else is doing, unless it’s an active threat to your life nothing warrants violence like that. NOTHING. The brother in the story needs to deal with his emotions like an ADULT. As a DV survivor, Taylor’s commentary on that story REALLY threw me off and put a bad taste in my mouth. So when OP’s brother has a wife or girlfriend, and they ask him to do something and he reacts like that to them does that make it okay too?
Morgan you should look into better help before you keep promoting it, they are getting exposed again for having fake therapist and not actually helping people. They’ve been doing this for so long they don’t deserve your promo.
1st story, these are 20 something year olds??? I can’t imagine I’d ever angrily shove my brother, but if I did he would never punch me in the face in retaliation 😢 I’m 5’4 and my brother is a 6’2 ex baseball pitcher, so it wouldn’t be nearly the same psychical retribution at all.
Girl from Australia! Leave that dude he is i liar and a cheater and he will never stop. He is gaslighting you and it will only get worse. Once you leave him your anxiety will subside and you will be able to work on yourself
Yay finally get to see Taylor. 1st story, I immediately thought brother was the AH. But listening to Taylor's take, I now think OPsister did push his buttons and it did escalate. They should have some distance because this is something that they've never experienced before with each other. Let the mom be the go between for now but make sure that the brother understands that this has to be resolved
Idk, I was excited to meet Taylor and hear his take, but to justify him punching his sister because she “pushed his buttons” is wild to me. Just like Matt said, that’s absolutely ridiculous and at 20 years old? Absolutely not. I was on board with Taylor til I heard that terrible take
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the girl from the last story seems so egotistical to me, thinking of breaking up with her struggling bf who did nothing wrong and not sticking with him on his worst time just bc she wants to know what her future looks like 🙄 girl you’ll still have problems in other relationships just different ones
My siblings and I fight like cats and dogs. We CANNOT live together. I let my sister live with me for 1 month (late twenties) and that lasted a month. She sounds like she already doesn’t like the brother. The best thing to do is move out of your parents home since ya know, you’re 25
Taylors advice is always weird and childish i wonder if it’s because hes childish or has a disability mentality idont know but something is off i mean talking about the fridge? And him defending the sister look how matts advice is completely different
Story 1: The OP is suss as hell. She doesn't give all the details of what was going on. She glosses over parts. I don't like that they got physical with each other. That wasn't good, period. To me, I'm wondering if little brother that she's "oh so close to" is kind of getting tired of being henpecked and criticized by his older sister when they're both adults. Younger siblings don't pop off about a scold over closing the fridge wrong unless they're 1) the golden child and spoiled as hell, or 2) just exhausted from getting corrected and lectured by an older sibling. I would tell OP it's not her place to stick her nose in her brother and her dad's relationship. That's between them. Keep her opinions to herself unless they're asked for. Some people don't have words to express how angry or frustrated they are and look to lash out in other ways. That's one of the reasons why you should never take a verbal fight to a physical place. It's too easy to get out of hand and spiral some place very ugly. My older brother and I used to wrestle and fight with each other, but it was all play. He and I never laid a finger on each other in anger. It's not okay for siblings, regardless of gender, to hit each other in anger. People shouldn't be groomed to accept that kind of behavior from ANYONE.
for the first story after the refrigerator comment and the brother said something back the sister should’ve just backed of instead of showing him how much a a “b!t¢h” she could be. second i’m a big believer in “these hands are rated E for everybody”. man or woman if you lay hands first the other party has a right to defend themselves. she put hands on her brother first and he hit back. do i think it was right? no. i think they both need therapy and the fact that their mom is a therapist is so funny to me. i truly think the whole situation could’ve been avoided though.
Very disappointed that you are supporting BetterHelp. I urge you to at least look at their controversies and the problems with the platform before you keep endorsing them.
So awesome to see Taylor on the show. Thanks for sharing Taylor!
I’m a women and when I was listening to this episode I realized how nice it is to hear 3 adult men talking about these stories involving emotions and layers and things that I don’t normally get to her guys talk about. Great of you guys to share and be vulnerable. I love the confidence!!!
The first story the sister DID NOT initiate the fight IMO. He slammed someone else's property she said be careful because everyone in the home uses it. It wasn't his to slam. He could've went to his room and vented on his own things. He wanted to argue thats why he was throwing a fit in front of everyone. The sister defended herself after he called her a b*tch. She shouldn't get involved in the brother and dad's business though unless her opinion is asked. It's hard cause it's your parent but that's also their parent. The brother needs therapy and not from his mom. No one should have to walk on egg shells when someone is mad. He's an adult and needs to learn to take accountability.
I agreed I strongly disagreed when Taylor said she instigated the fight. Everyone should have the right to kindly ask something of someone if it’s disrespectful or going to damage something everyone utilizes. The sister and brother need family therapy as well as individual because no one just blows up like this either from my own experience
@@Rmrz06. I thought the same thing! Pretty sure I heard Morgan mention on THT or FKS that Taylor choked her at a County Music concert because she told people they're siblings.
Taylor has never ever laid a hand on me. Lets get that straight. He has a brother that choked me at a music festival.
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i wonder if taylor have a disability of some sort I notice the way he talks and his advice seems off
Thank you Matt for saying there is no reason the first story’s brother should have punched someone. It doesn’t matter if the sister pushed his buttons there are other ways for that brother to respond. I was a bit taken aback when Taylor put the responsibility on the sister for “pushing his buttons”. That is a slippery slope of validating the brother’s violence/abuse. Its not the victim’s fault for the other person’s violence. I personally think OP and her brother need a lot of space, and a lot of boundaries. Maybe even reconsider if they want to see the brother if the brother is unwilling to talk calmly, communicate, and make changes. I hope he learns to manage his anger before dating someone. While his emotions are valid and he cannot control how he feels, his response is in his control.
I think you missed that OP actually physically pushed her brother, not just his buttons. Still think violence is never the answer in arguments but she did kinda start the violence.
Well, OP said the brother was wanting to physically fight and after they had continued fighting she finally pushed him. It sounds like he wanted her to do that so he COULD punch her and say she pushed me, so I reacted.
I just don't see how shoving someone makes punching them in the face is okay? Take gender out of it completely. Someone shoves you, your immediate reaction shouldn't be to then punch them in the face? Also the asking to make it violent like they were waiting to hurt the sister and have a valid excuse.
@@eleicha there is absolutely a difference between shoving someone and punching someone in the face. If someone shoves you and you're automatic reaction is punch someone in the face, you need therapy.
Y’all literally did listen. He agreed that no type of violence should’ve happened. If y’all would’ve listened that’s what he said but ok he was just saying that’s what triggered it but not that the hitting was okay.
Idk if you remember but I've been asking for new people, like Matt, to come on the show for different opinions on these write ins and I'm so excited to watch! I'm also glad to finally put a face to a name seeing Taylor too! 👏🏼✨
i'm only halfway through the first story and i have two thoughts. taylor is a little cutie and i hope we get to see more of him on either podcast. i absolutely love how matt reads the stories LOL
I’ve burned through almost every Father Knows ep over the past couple months, and was curious to hear Taylor’s takes on the pod this week-mostly given the relatively (?) limited info we’ve heard from Jerry. Taylor had more broad questions and statements; those that my mind also jumped to immediately, given the context, that could’ve only been narrowed by being present in the exact moment as each respective OP. Hearing Taylor vocalize the same initial skepticism that was sitting in the back of my mind was validating. That said, sincere thanks for his participation on FKS this week
Only other thought: HAVOC !!! That dog’s psychotic Aussie eyes confirmed it, 10000/10 correct name choice 😂
I’ve been punched in the face and choked by my younger brother, when he was 18 and I was 20. It broke my heart, and took me a solid 6 months to even talk to him again after that. The brother in the first story has anger issues. No kind of tone of voice, mean words, attitude, nothing on this planet should ever make someone think it’s okay to put their hands on someone else man or woman.
Jerry you are so wise, this episode was so cool with Matt and Taylor!!
Loved this episode and the new perspectives! Thanks for getting everyone together and introducing us to Taylor!
With love, Rachel
Love meeting more of the family ❤
1st story. My oldest son is 5 years older than his brother. He constantly tries to parent the younger one. I can see this frustration building up over time. My youngest will get so angry. But If someone disrespects my house/things then they can find someplace else to live.
As someone who is the partner with a difficult relationship with a parent and had a partner who doesn’t like how they treat everyone we have learned a lot together. My partner wants to be there for me, and I made a decision to keep a form or a relationship to that parent, but the difference is having boundaries. When the parent over step, we pull back and let them know what they did is unacceptable and we take space for ourselves. My heart goes out to those in a similar situation. Maybe cutting off the relationship is needed for others, but I made up my own mind and communicated with my partner about everything so they know what’s going on. Took years of emotional pain to get here and it’s still hard. I’m lucky my partner supports me and I give them space to say what they feel too. Love and family sure is complicated.
Truly thank you for sharing this. You’re a great example what the message I believe and share.
I just had to pause when Taylor put the blame on the sister in the 1st story. The fact that one comment about the fridge lead to a huge argument where he punched his sister in the face is a HUGE red flag. I love this podcast so I’m going to keep listening and give Taylor the benefit of the doubt here but yeah, red flag and there’s no justifying that kind of violence.
I agree. It gave me the ick hearing him out right blame the sister for making a simple comment/suggestion. A bit strange that he essentially enables that type of violence. Yikes.
Yeah agreed. I immediately hated him after this which is crazy bc it's the first person in the entire family that i even slightly dislike, no less actually strongly. So happy to see other people had the same thoughts and feelings on this.
Y’all literally didnt listen. He agreed that no type of violence should’ve happened. If y’all would’ve listened that’s what he said but ok he was just saying that’s what triggered it but not that the hitting was okay.
@Kasy Davila clearly you're the one that don't listen. Matt almost FORCED him to say violence isn't okay. Before that he was defending the brother, saying she instigated it, she deserved it, and it was OK what he did.
@@danatruppiana he was literally stating the sister caused the argument. If he was okay with the physical fighting he WOULDNT have agreed with Matt. Why would he agree with him if he thought the physical fighting was okay??? Tyler was only talking about the argument not the actual fight.
The other son in his 20s seems like he has a lot to learn...hes very closed off and guarded...perhaps just nervous bein on cam? I like that the older one fathered the younger sib cuz he seemed to be more on board with the punching guy and not realizing the bigger issue.
Yeah I think Taylor’s opinions kind of speak to his immaturity. I was not into most of his thoughts and thought it was childish
The girl that her boyfriend didn’t tell her about the kids: that guy seems so manipulative and really immature. The problem is not you being insecure - him being shady is. You’re just human feeling what any human would feel after that kind of behaviour. He has shown you that he’s willing to hide huge things like him having kids, to manipulate you into moving in with him. He is being shady. You are just reacting to what you are seeing in his behaviour. Trust your gut rather than try and stop listening to it. Trust yourself, because that insecure feeling you have when he’s out is telling you something, it’s your instincts telling you to run.
Also, it makes me wonder why he started dating her in the first place. When you do the math, she was 18 when they first started dating.
@@junebug6735 exactly my thoughts- probably because at that age it’s so much easier to manipulate someone, which obviously he did (judging by the fact that she thinks she is the problem)
GIRL RUN! Dad said it nicer than I would have.
Lol had to come over to RUclips from the podcast to see what Taylor looks like and he looks as he sounds 🤣😅
Great episode! So nice to see Taylor, Matt and Jerry together. I'm looking forward to seeing more episodes with the three of you guys!
Wow, I love that I got here super early!
Your content is very much appreciated & needed in the world. ❤️ much love & prosperity to you Jerry, Morgan, Justin & the crew 💕✨️
You can tell the older brother by the eye roll when Taylor said she started it on the first story 😂
Taylor! Nice to meet you 😊
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I love your podcasts! Helping me fill the dad shaped void💜
For the guy that hid his kids, my take on the kids mom not wanting them to meet, is bc he has a track record of not keeping relationships, and she doesn't want her kids to get attached to any of his girlfriends. And her asking how she can help herself be less insecure, told me immediately that he's gaslighting her and making it all on her that he just feels so trapped bc of her insecurities. Leeeeaaaave hiiiiim! And take some time to build your self esteem and learning that you deserve way better!
Also, when you do the math, they started dating when OP was 18. Maybe that plays a part in why the mom does not want anything to do with her?
to the person in the last story: consider talking to your boyfriend about helping jumpstart a plan for the mom and everyone from the dad. see if the both of you can sit down with the mom and talk her into getting help from professionals, and get her and the kids out of the house. if she still refuses, maybe look into adopting the younger siblings; it seems like you and your bf would be ruled to be better suited to take care of the kids, and maybe if you both got custody, it would inspire the mom to leave. or if it isn't right for your bf/you to take the kiddos, maybe look into some extended family who a court would like. but if you talk to him about putting some type of plan in motion and he isn't responsive to the help and nothing changes, i think that would be a really good indicator that you would either need to leave or wait a loooooong time for any type of change, if any
and to the person whos boyfriend lied about his kids: girl, come on. you're not checking his phone because you respect his privacy, you're not checking because you already know whats on it. how many lies does he have to give before you leave? how many times does he have to cheat before you value yourself more than him? you're better off without him
In the last story, this dysfunction is something our OP is good to note. You are not just in a relationship with a person you have a whole family dynamic behind that person and you have to be able to handle that dynamic as is. You never know what will or won’t change in the future. If it’s unhealthy you don’t have to expose yourself, your own family or any future kids to that. You can care about someone but not be able to handle what a life with them requires. Perfect example of loving someone but them maybe not being the healthiest for you to spend your life with. I respect what BF is trying to do but he needs some therapy work to actually help his siblings and mom and not enable the situation they are in further.
about the girl whose partner hid his children and snapchats other girls: you do not have "trust issues", you have a partner who you cannot trust. If you have been conditioned to feel like you have "issues", that is so telling. he is manipulating you and trying to make you feel guilty for inquiring about his toxic behavior. run so fast and run so far!!!!
and that is on period.
The last story: she`s gotta know if she wants to take on that responsibility. But asking him to stop caring for his family is wrong. She should appreciate that he`s such a good guy and not make his life even harder.
The story of the boyfriend with the alcoholic dad I will say this. It is always nice to marry into a family that you love and loves you but I can speak from personal experience. My husband’s family is not great and he personally decided to cut them off a while ago. However, when we first started dating and even when we got married, he was still in contact with them. I basically just made it clear to him that he could have whatever relationship he wants to have with his family, but I will not have a relationship with them and I don’t want our future children to be around people like that. Now we have a daughter and non of us see or talk to his family except his brothers. So he may end up cutting his dad off. He may not, but at the end of the day it’s your decision on if you want to be around them.
I watched this episode this morning and it's now night and I'm still heated at it. I really hope Taylor gets some serious therapy because him sitting there arguing why it was justified for a 20 something year old man to punch his sister in the face because she was nagging him... I worry for any relationship he may have. I know he's young and i understand that has a lot to do w his viewpoint, but since i love you Jerry, Morgan, Matt, Justin and everybody involved in all these podcasts i appreciate that Matt argued the point but yeah, i just strongly encourage therapy so his mental health can get so, so much better and not justify laying hands on a female ever, even if she 'nags' him
Trust issues take a lot of time to recover from, and it takes a partner who is actually trustworthy. That partner does not sound trustworthy. Don't sell yourself short and invest in that relationship anymore. When the partner in question actually gives you no reason to distrust them, then it's time to look internally, work on healing from your triggers and past experiences. It takes a long time to build trust and it's probably not linear. Good luck ❤️
ETA: I'm currently in therapy and I am working through trust issues with a partner who continually proves to me that he is trustworthy.
At first I was wondering why this episode felt very different from other. I think I pin pointed it to the masculine energy haha! it's definitely an odd switch from the usual we see! But I do enjoy it ❤️
Thank you for another good episode ☺️
Story #2 YIKES....Girl R U N far away. A person like that WILL NOT CHANGE. Please do not waste your time and find someone who values you!
I don't believe for 1 second that the mother of that man's children doesn't like the girlfriend without ever meeting her. That sounds like a lie that he made up
Is he really saying she instigated getting punched in the face so she should have just not mentioned the fridge!? “What if it’s just not the fridge?” AND? She shouldn’t have pushed him and he shouldn’t have punched her in the face.
Your boys are so wide I loved all the advice
Wide? 😂
Stories
Story 1: Instead of pushing the other person away if they aren't physically threatening you, walk away. I have even said, I need to walk away to calm down. He escalated the situation drastically when he hit you OP. Hitting isnjever the answer unless it is in seld defense. Your brother could use some anger management techniques from someone outside the family.
Srory 2: Run Op. He is a user, abuser, cheater, and maybe even a narcissist. It will only get worse the longer you stay. Please leave, remove him from any accounts (bank, online, media, change any passwords or pins), and do STIs testing. Never collect your things alone, brings friends to help keep you safe and to make a quick exit. Take photos of everything you take amd how you left the shared housing. Get your important documents and store them somewhere safe. If you can't, they are replacable, you are not. If you feel unsafe, ask the police to supervise whilst collecting your things and go tona safe shelter or somewhere he doesn't safe.
Story 3: I would talk to his family. Tell them you love being apart of their life and you have never had this kind of love and kindness. Tell them why you have trouble excepting in a way that you're comfortable with. If they don't want you to pay them back, do small things to show your appreciation. It could be, I was thinking of you when I saw something that reminded me of you, cook them a meal or bake them something, help with a task like cleaning or working outside. Do what you feel comfortable and it can make you feel better and they will see like you care about them.
Story 4: I would ask your boyfriend's mom out and ask if she wants help finding a job. If she does, she could use your address for applications. She may need a bank account that isn't at their bank and she can use your address. The abuse is so ingrained, that they don't really see how to get out of it. Counselling is important. You'll need to talk to yoir boyfriend and tell him that the stress is unhealthy for all of you. Years and years of abuse is hard to understand when you haven't lived it. He will need reassurance, counselling, and a life plan. If the life plan isn't going the way you would like together, you may have to leave.
Amazing podcast ❤️
Amazing episode, thank you Jerry!! Please do more episodes with Matt and Taylor, they have great point of views!
Please look into BetterHelp…a lot of sketchy and disheartening stuff going on with them.
With that first story I would recommend to the OP that they solely focus on their relationship with their brother and not try to manage their brother's relationship with his parents. I know that it's hard to stop doing that and you just want to help but really it just pits you against each other. Before you critique him consider is this something that directly affects me emotionally or my belongings (it sounds like the fridge isn't yours) or is this something that would threaten his immediate health or safety? If not then let it go. I assume your parents are perfectly capable of asking him to take better care of their fridge.
For the story regarding the BF and his abusive father. If you choose your BF to be your life partner you become a team. His family becomes your family. You need to help him protect his siblings and support them. If you want a life without his family it will be without him too. One day he could cut contact, but not while his siblings are in danger. Therapy would be a good idea 🤍 to help him and you
The younger son needs like he still has some learning/maturing to do. He didn’t come up great with the first story. Very interesting episode though. love seeing Matt being in charge of this episode ❤
Morgan & Jerry pls don’t ready this. But taylor is extremely attractive
loved this episode, thanks Dad!
The debut of Taylor!
We finally met Taylor!!🎉
Taylor is finally here! 😍
17:06 yes Jerry 👏🏼
Second story girl: He's cheating on you. He's lying to you. I know it hurts but you need to face some reality. He's a bad man. Move out. Dump him. Move on and realize you deserve someone you can trust and who loves you in a healthy and respectful way. Don't waste the only life you have and the only years you have with someone like this.
To the girl who thinks her boyfriend is cheating - RUN! Don’t stay with him no matter what he says. He doesn’t deserve you. You deserve better. You have your whole life ahead of you to find true love with someone who won’t lie to you about his kids. Also you were 18 when he started dating you, he’s much older which makes me think he groomed you before you turned 18. Don’t stay with a liar who will control you & cheat on you every chance he gets.
On the 1st story. I have two older brothers and the dynamics are very different. The brother closest to my age use to abuse me in response of being abused himself; This caused a rift in our relationship growing up, as adults we have since talked about things and not only became allies, grew a new sibling relationship. We still fight, but we have a better understanding and respect for each other and can communicate through fights better and learned when we wanna drop it or sort it.
I’m so sorry, I hope this is not rude to say but I really feel what Taylor was saying in the first story was really whack. He came off like he was justifying the brother PUNCHING his sister IN THE FACE. I don’t care what someone else is doing, unless it’s an active threat to your life nothing warrants violence like that. NOTHING. The brother in the story needs to deal with his emotions like an ADULT. As a DV survivor, Taylor’s commentary on that story REALLY threw me off and put a bad taste in my mouth. So when OP’s brother has a wife or girlfriend, and they ask him to do something and he reacts like that to them does that make it okay too?
Morgan you should look into better help before you keep promoting it, they are getting exposed again for having fake therapist and not actually helping people. They’ve been doing this for so long they don’t deserve your promo.
Maybe this is just me but if anyone punched me I wouldn't really be in the forgiving mood. Especially if it's a family member.
1st story, these are 20 something year olds??? I can’t imagine I’d ever angrily shove my brother, but if I did he would never punch me in the face in retaliation 😢 I’m 5’4 and my brother is a 6’2 ex baseball pitcher, so it wouldn’t be nearly the same psychical retribution at all.
Girl from Australia! Leave that dude he is i liar and a cheater and he will never stop. He is gaslighting you and it will only get worse. Once you leave him your anxiety will subside and you will be able to work on yourself
does taylor have a mullet hehe
Nope full head of hair
Yay finally get to see Taylor. 1st story, I immediately thought brother was the AH. But listening to Taylor's take, I now think OPsister did push his buttons and it did escalate. They should have some distance because this is something that they've never experienced before with each other. Let the mom be the go between for now but make sure that the brother understands that this has to be resolved
Idk, I was excited to meet Taylor and hear his take, but to justify him punching his sister because she “pushed his buttons” is wild to me. Just like Matt said, that’s absolutely ridiculous and at 20 years old? Absolutely not. I was on board with Taylor til I heard that terrible take
@@alayjahbellamy8492 agreed, but getting perspective from his dad and bro on these types of stories will help him and us look at the larger issues
Please stop sponsoring better help. They’re a horrible company and I don’t understand why people are still sponsoring them considering they’re allowed to sell your information for marketing purposes. Everyone needs to do a little bit more research and who they’re sponsors are.
Read the terms of service..?
I’m looking deeper into this as I see the concerns
@@jerrysiegel3354 Fyi no hate meant here, I love your podcast and so many others I watch have been sponsored by them too.
The second story is a whole red flag, she needs to get out! For real
The fact that she was eighteen and he was twenty-six when they started dating, red flag.
the girl from the last story seems so egotistical to me, thinking of breaking up with her struggling bf who did nothing wrong and not sticking with him on his worst time just bc she wants to know what her future looks like 🙄 girl you’ll still have problems in other relationships just different ones
Love Mat. Taylor…. Not so much. Seems super immature for his age, based on the first story.
My siblings and I fight like cats and dogs. We CANNOT live together. I let my sister live with me for 1 month (late twenties) and that lasted a month. She sounds like she already doesn’t like the brother. The best thing to do is move out of your parents home since ya know, you’re 25
Taylors advice is always weird and childish i wonder if it’s because hes childish or has a disability mentality idont know but something is off i mean talking about the fridge? And him defending the sister look how matts advice is completely different
Story 1: The OP is suss as hell. She doesn't give all the details of what was going on. She glosses over parts. I don't like that they got physical with each other. That wasn't good, period. To me, I'm wondering if little brother that she's "oh so close to" is kind of getting tired of being henpecked and criticized by his older sister when they're both adults. Younger siblings don't pop off about a scold over closing the fridge wrong unless they're 1) the golden child and spoiled as hell, or 2) just exhausted from getting corrected and lectured by an older sibling.
I would tell OP it's not her place to stick her nose in her brother and her dad's relationship. That's between them. Keep her opinions to herself unless they're asked for. Some people don't have words to express how angry or frustrated they are and look to lash out in other ways. That's one of the reasons why you should never take a verbal fight to a physical place. It's too easy to get out of hand and spiral some place very ugly. My older brother and I used to wrestle and fight with each other, but it was all play. He and I never laid a finger on each other in anger. It's not okay for siblings, regardless of gender, to hit each other in anger. People shouldn't be groomed to accept that kind of behavior from ANYONE.
I like Taylor's takes!
for the first story after the refrigerator comment and the brother said something back the sister should’ve just backed of instead of showing him how much a a “b!t¢h” she could be. second i’m a big believer in “these hands are rated E for everybody”. man or woman if you lay hands first the other party has a right to defend themselves. she put hands on her brother first and he hit back. do i think it was right? no. i think they both need therapy and the fact that their mom is a therapist is so funny to me. i truly think the whole situation could’ve been avoided though.
Very disappointed that you are supporting BetterHelp. I urge you to at least look at their controversies and the problems with the platform before you keep endorsing them.