If you like that Real SE, you’d probably like the Primitive 8.25 shape. I was skating that Primitive shape for like 5 months, before I went up to 8.5, specifically because it had a 14” wheelbase. 360 flips were on autopilot. Same woodshop as deluxe so it’s that good BBS wood.
I'm riding this full SE 8.06 31.5 14WB deck right now and I feel like I've finally found the board that works for me. Considering riding these forever. I was thinking it was because of my size (5'8) but seems to have worked for you too. Keep it up Ben. Thanks for the videos.
I’m 37 just getting back into skating, bought a 8.25 quasi on thunders and struggled though it does manual nice, went and bought new setup after 2 weeks a REAL 8.06 marked s1 on top some dudes signature model after watching your board reviews on various REAL boards. Made doing my tricks a whole lot easier. Glad I bought it to try something different before giving up again from struggling on a board that was not suited to me.
What size Thunders are you rolling with? I'm in the same wheelhouse as you. About to pick up a new deck but I have 148 hollow lights which are suited for 8.25. Hopefully I can get away with something in between! Thanks for taking your time to reply
The struggle is real, dont you miss the days you could go into the local skateshop buy whatever you thought looked coolest and ride the shit out of it with little to no discernible difference in performance. The older you get the more important and drastic every small board setup change can feel and have, I setup a board 5ish years ago around the age 24 and made the mistake of buying bones spf 104a's got a solid year or two of riding but damn those hard wheels put a beating on my joints everytime i rode on anything that wasnt perfectly smooth which led to me tossing the board aside and hadnt touched it for 2-3 years... decided to begin riding it again during covid times and quickly realized if i dont change my setup things arent gonna last vary long for me again, so in the process of setting up a new deck with softer wheels in hopes that finding a more comfortable setup will allow me to stick with skating rather then quiting after a few more months to a year... Im going oppisite of you though, switching from an almost 8.0, i've now been riding a mellow girl 8.25 deck for a month and its feeling quite nice though ive already got my next deck ready to go which is an almost uber light 8.25 with steep concave... I got a feeling ill prefer and go back to mellow shapes after the uber but it seems hard to find steep decks these days... so i had to get it, plus ive always wanted to try an uber light board and with powell flight decks, santa cruz and other advanced tech. decks having grown in popularity in recent years i figured it couldnt hurt to try an almost uber light. but the biggest shift for me has been going from bones 54mm stf 104a wheels to ricta cloud 54mm 92a wheels, so much smoother riding and easier on my joints and knees... theyve given me a load more of confidence and sped up my progression allowing me to skate the rough asphalt infront of my home for longer sessions... though once i get back to ledges and rails i plan to move up to 99a wheels (either the new bones stf 99a's or new ricta rapido 99a's) but until then the ricta clouds are a true blessing allowing me to skate more often and for longer sessions well helping me quickly build back all my old skate muscles with a little less wear and tare feeling on my aging body. lastly for my fellow retro rippers as awkard and embarassing as they can feel at first getting a good skate bucket is a huge confidence booster imo. I brought a triple 8 comfort sweat helmet and at 29 years old its one of the best skate investments ive made... i aint trying to go pro at my age and dont really care to much about impressing anyone at my local skatepark or street spots and after a couple bad falls I quickly realized i cant catch my falls and protect myself nearly as good as when i was a young and seasoned skater. ( im sure as i continue to progress in skating ill also progress in my fall/bailling ability) Though i havent put it to its test yet just knowing i can take a nasty unexpected fall and not have to worry about a serious head injury has boosted my confidence and progression hugely! and if you skate with your own child/children or nieces/newphews then it sets a good example for them to wear protective equipment well skateboarding themselves.
I've been skating for quite a long and yet, till this day I don't know anything about the differences on the boards. I used to skate 7.5 and now I skate 8.0. That's the only difference I can tell though. Great video, Ben!!
Thx for the upload. Good review. I use to ride a smaller wheelbase when I was in my teens and man, my pops were way higher. Turn on your ADS next time Benihana.
14'' wheelbase is probably the best, feel like every trick gets easier. came from a polar with a 14.75" to a poetic deck with a 14" wheelbase (might even be a tiny bit smaller) especially treflips as you mention feels good. Great review!
Love that part of this vid was filmed at a worksite, romex runs everywhere :) Strongly considering getting a Real/Deluxe board for a 2nd setup bc your reviews are so consistently positive. Skating an 8.38 31.5" Almost/Dwindle board now and I really love everything about it but it is very very stiff. I want something different, but not tooo different..8.25 with steeper concave and more flex would be cool
thanks for your informative and insightful videos. I somehow "quit" skating without even noticing way back, but thanks to your videos I found inspiration to just go have fun and feel good again, so thanks alot for that. I also bought the full SE real deck and it was such a sweet "cute" deck, I rode it on indy 49 hollows and slim bones v3's, such a great combo, with my loose trucks, i felt like daewon song immediatly and instantly got back to my groove , my grip was perfect after 4 months although my nose/tail was destroyed. I just couldnt miss these casual flips and tricks. your reviews are spot on!
I have watched all of your Vancouver carpenter videos, learned alot of tricks to help finish a buddy's house (I'm a finish carpenter as well, definitely not a mudder LOL) and I did NOT know that you skate..and skate well! Damn dude, you're awesome! Doing Canada proud. Love from Manitoba!
I'm skating the exact same deck right now! (but different graphic). I found the nose shape a little weird at first (probably just me) but i loved it once i got used to it.
Could you do a video on risers? I used to use Lucky risers, hardware, and bearings on green Titan trucks back in the day. I don't see anyone using risers, or Titan trucks any more. I think Lucky is still around though.
Every time you post a new video I go looking at different products trying to figure why I can’t kickflip properly at 30 years old anymore. And when you said you grew skating smaller boards - it hit me that in my prime around 16-19 I would only ride 7.75 decks. And now bc of the whole bigger board crazy I’m on a 8.38 and it’s just so hard to get a good flat ground kickflip
amazing sessions both the manual and the park, killed it once again. I'll try SE one day cuz I felt the old 8.38 Real deck I had was so huge, so this video helped!
Really good review bro. I've only had one slick deck too, I was also 12. The Blind, Rudy Johnson Olde English 40 deck. I loved that board. I hope Blind reissues that one at some point. Have you skated any DSM decks? I've been skating them almost exclusively for the last 5 years and I really like them. I'd like to hear your opinion on how they work for you. In particular I really like their (full shape) 8.375 x 32.2 medium concave medium kick boards. Although I do wish the noses on them were a little bit steeper.
Are you going to review the new Andy Anderson Powell? Hearing your take on it and how it handles across flat, ledge, and bowl would be really interesting.
I'm an other skateboarding elderly. The stretch video was good and I'm also a nerd with experimenting with all the different setups. When I was young it was limited to the materials I had. Even now I've experimenting own made slick board. It was nah...
i have one like this, the Busenitz full se model, size8.25..and today i got the Sovrn Alex Midler 'Pull' deck 8.25..it has the exact same dimension (32l and 14.25wb) ,medium concave and same full shape
I literally just got a chocolate which is a 8.25 but a 14. Inch wheel base and I love it. And I'm not exactly a small dude I'm 6ft 3 lol but for real that small wheel base and having a wide board makes for so much good technical tricks imo
Just found your channel very recently and I love your videos but I wanted to ask what your opinion on almost decks are? I never see anyone mention mullen's brand
Hey Ben, love your videos! Keep up the great work! I also really enjoy the blunt, very rounded nose's of deluxe boards. You mentioned for a quick second that FA had a similar shape? Curious because i may give FA a try if thats the case.
FA are even blunter. May as well skate a shovel! But seriously, a lot of people are into that but I think it's fashion over function with how far they take it.
Hahaha I just commented that I liked Real Slicks right? Then as you said i looked you up on Insta and saw that the Ishod Real Slick that you skated is the same one I skated last. Excellent Board and out of all the boards out there fairly coincidental. Im interested to hear your thoughts.
True!!! , I was riding 8.25 boards and obtained A 8.0 size board board on accident,, turned out good because my flip tricks fealt easier and pop in general sky rocketed, probably because of less weight on my feet but still I'm keeping 8's for now👍👍
Now let me add a Note about Real Skateboards and their great Customer Support: I ordered my Davis Torgerson Perimeter Full SE at a Store in Germany and it came with a 4-Inch Crack in the Bottom Layer, along the Length Axis of the Deck, reaching from about 2 Inches of the Tail end to the Flat Area of the Board. As the Clearcoat Finish was inside the Crack, it was quite obvious that this was not a Result of Mishandling but a Fabrication Fault. So i contacted Real Skateboards via their Website and received their Reply within about one Hour. They asked me to send a Photo of Proof and a Copy of the Receipt via Email. After checking the Photos, they offered me to send a Replacement Deck without Arguing. We all know that Factory Faults can happen and slip through Quality Control from Time to Time, but the Response of Deluxe/Real Skateboard Customer Care Office was just GREAT. Correct and Effortless. I give an additional THUMBS UP for this painless Support Experience!
Been waiting for the review on that deck you've been skating for a while now. Hyped! So, which deck would you personally prefer between the Powell Brad-M flight-D, and the "Real-short" deck in this vid?
Real by a fairly large margin. They need to stiffen flight decks up a touch in my opinion which would increase the weight a bit but I think they would sell better. Most people just can't get past their first reaction of how a flight deck feels. That was my biggest reason I didn't want to try them.
@@bendegros Gottcha, thanks. I'm seriously so intrigued by your foot placement tip on flat decks that I took a flat deck I hated off my wall and am just waiting for fit weather to giver-a-go. Thanks for the inspiration.
Really good lines!!!! And just a question is Ted Degros a family members of yours? I just saw for the first time is part in a old Alien Workshop video and it was really good!!! And you grow so much as a reviewer since your beginning, you're just better and better continue your good works.
I swear the “flat” decks from real are like the steep decks from baker judging by the kick I see here. I haven’t skated a real in over a decade. I only skate baker and like primitive for a change off. But I’m curious was the slick deck you had when you were 12 a lib tech?
What wood comoany makes Real and what other companies use it? I was thinking, due to the condition of the board, that you didn't do any boardslides. But then tou did boardslides. Seems like that board really held up well for 5 weeks.
I skated mostly flatground on this board which is why it looks so fresh. The grip was wearing down and it was getting pretty razor tailed though. I have been having lot's of sessions during my son's soccer practice so that means asphalt parking lots.
Ever consider doing some true mad science and setup a board with two different trucks on it? How bad, weird, or possibly advantageous could it be to have one Indy and one thunder or venture with similar axle / height if possible?
I want to be you when i grow up. or skate like you at least lol. I skated nothing but girl/chocolate for years. Tried a Real and now i only want DLX decks. Real has my favorite squad too so i'm all about supporting them. I never paid attention to board length or wheelbase, but now im getting back into skating again I want to give it more attention to see if it'll help me.
I was honestly going to message you for a deck suggestion, but this video pretty much shows this deck is what I was looking for. I still wanna know how you get those nollie inwards crispy.
Thanks for that review! I skate a Justin Brock Deck atm, which is also a shorter 14" wheelbase, 31,45" long Deck by Real, but the Tail is steeper than the Full SE, a little steeper than the Flight Deck's Kick, which is also flat but its Concave is too mellow for my Taste. I will sure have my Hands (and Feet) on a Full SE next time.
Got mine today,it was on retail, and hung it on the wall for future use. It's thinner than my Real Justin Brock (same size and wheelbase) by a fraction (0.3mm), thus lighter by a few dozens of grams, and definitely flatter tail and nose by 1-2 degrees, which you can feel when you directly compare them. Did Real discontinue these? I quickshot this deck, because i saw them going out of stock in europe and when checking the Real website, the Torgerson Perimeter Full SE is not listed there any more.
I try venture's hi on deck with shape almost like this. but with steeper concave and longer wheelbase. And I just can't do a kickflip on it - it always be a rocket. Now I trying to find a flatter deck for this trucks
i absolutely hate venture trucks lol. I skate krux dlks. I occasionally will switch out the krux axel for tensor maglite axels lol. i used to like low trucks the most, but when i switched the axels back to the krux axels, my pop got like another inches and it feels like i have more board controll lol
I'd like to hear your opinion on this: So im a taller/heavier guy (193cm/90kg), which means that the board flex alot. Just standing in a ollie position, and the middle and tail will flex like mad. I've always looked at it as a benefit. Like it would have some sort of spring effect. What do you think?
Freddy T no Problem. I am 200 cm about 83 kg and have no problem with boards snapping much. Maybe we would have problems jumping stair sets or something
that line... I also like shorter wheelbase, it took a lot of years for me to figure out what was that difference between my boards. It was the wheelbase, not the shape. Also I realised I like flatter decks more with my indys, but always had steep concaved decks haha. Now I know, but Im also 30 now and thats too late to realise haha
The difference is exactly .06 inches. Huge or small that’s what it is. But honestly you probably couldn’t tell the difference by looking it’ll be a minute change.
Really nice review, i skated 7.5/6/7 alot, cause i'm old (XD) and the trend for wide boards for street i don't understand well, specially if you don't jump gaps. I thought that wide boards were for park, someone can tell me, why enjoys wide decks for flat tricks and grind tricks? Thanks.
Theres more skateparks worldwide then ever before... hence, more and more kids are growing up skating park/transition than they are street skating, those that do still actually street skate are no strangers to park riding either and since most parents aint buying kids multiple $200-300 skate setups... having a single board setup that fits multiple skate subsets/scenarios matters. You've got to keep in mind that kids dont have the luxury of owning both a park board and street board so having a single board setup that does a bit of everything is kinda a must for modern skaters... hence bigger wheels and wider boards becoming more common over the years eventhough such setups might not excell at any given skate task, they can perform adequate for most any skate scenario you throw at them... a jack of all trades type of setup if you will... and thats what I believe must modern skaters are looking for these days, something then can huck down sets, finesse on flat ground and yet still manage to rip around in transition parks. But like with everything in life trends come and go and everything comes back around eventually... skaters started on wide boards went to skinny for a decade or two and now we been back to wide boards for awhile now and in another 3-5 years the industry trend might switch back to slimmer/smaller boards once again... infact prof. Peter Schmitt during his nineclub interview claims to already be seeing a trend among pro skaters moving back towards slimmer and smaller boards, but the industry lacks behind popular pro trends by years (hence why twin tail and twin nose boards arent more readily avaliable to us consumers despite a clear growing trend among pros to ride symmetrical shapes and a clear desire from consumers to try such board types for themselves.... yet twin tail and twin nose boards are still near impossible to find.) so it'll be another 3-5 years before us consumers begin to notice the shift back to slimmer and smaller boards from a retail standpoint... but many many pros have already begun the process of downsizing there boardsize like guys that were known for wide boards just a few years ago are all going back down to 8.0s and 8.125s from 8.5's+ given a few more years we could legitimately see 7.5-7.8s rise in popularity again... 8-8.25 seems to be the sweet spot in which the most elite of elite skaters are riding right now... still a few elite riders killing it on 8.375+ but i think the majority have begun the shift back down the scale.
a friend and I were skating a parkinglot by some forest yesterday... I hope we didnt get any "trick ticks". haaaw...haaaw...haw... (we actually went skating in the woods, so I had to make this joke ^^)
best skate youtuber hands down
Dee Snuts I agree he rips
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Yup
just wondering, do any of your children skate?
Yeah..I think he has a clip of his son skating.
You’re like that teacher that makes you stoked on go to class
If my teacher whipped out some fat skate moves every lesson I'd be stoked too
If you like that Real SE, you’d probably like the Primitive 8.25 shape. I was skating that Primitive shape for like 5 months, before I went up to 8.5, specifically because it had a 14” wheelbase. 360 flips were on autopilot. Same woodshop as deluxe so it’s that good BBS wood.
I'm riding this full SE 8.06 31.5 14WB deck right now and I feel like I've finally found the board that works for me. Considering riding these forever. I was thinking it was because of my size (5'8) but seems to have worked for you too. Keep it up Ben. Thanks for the videos.
I’m 37 just getting back into skating, bought a 8.25 quasi on thunders and struggled though it does manual nice, went and bought new setup after 2 weeks a REAL 8.06 marked s1 on top some dudes signature model after watching your board reviews on various REAL boards. Made doing my tricks a whole lot easier. Glad I bought it to try something different before giving up again from struggling on a board that was not suited to me.
What size Thunders are you rolling with? I'm in the same wheelhouse as you. About to pick up a new deck but I have 148 hollow lights which are suited for 8.25. Hopefully I can get away with something in between! Thanks for taking your time to reply
The struggle is real, dont you miss the days you could go into the local skateshop buy whatever you thought looked coolest and ride the shit out of it with little to no discernible difference in performance.
The older you get the more important and drastic every small board setup change can feel and have, I setup a board 5ish years ago around the age 24 and made the mistake of buying bones spf 104a's got a solid year or two of riding but damn those hard wheels put a beating on my joints everytime i rode on anything that wasnt perfectly smooth which led to me tossing the board aside and hadnt touched it for 2-3 years...
decided to begin riding it again during covid times and quickly realized if i dont change my setup things arent gonna last vary long for me again, so in the process of setting up a new deck with softer wheels in hopes that finding a more comfortable setup will allow me to stick with skating rather then quiting after a few more months to a year...
Im going oppisite of you though, switching from an almost 8.0, i've now been riding a mellow girl 8.25 deck for a month and its feeling quite nice though ive already got my next deck ready to go which is an almost uber light 8.25 with steep concave... I got a feeling ill prefer and go back to mellow shapes after the uber but it seems hard to find steep decks these days... so i had to get it, plus ive always wanted to try an uber light board and with powell flight decks, santa cruz and other advanced tech. decks having grown in popularity in recent years i figured it couldnt hurt to try an almost uber light.
but the biggest shift for me has been going from bones 54mm stf 104a wheels to ricta cloud 54mm 92a wheels, so much smoother riding and easier on my joints and knees... theyve given me a load more of confidence and sped up my progression allowing me to skate the rough asphalt infront of my home for longer sessions... though once i get back to ledges and rails i plan to move up to 99a wheels (either the new bones stf 99a's or new ricta rapido 99a's) but until then the ricta clouds are a true blessing allowing me to skate more often and for longer sessions well helping me quickly build back all my old skate muscles with a little less wear and tare feeling on my aging body.
lastly for my fellow retro rippers as awkard and embarassing as they can feel at first getting a good skate bucket is a huge confidence booster imo.
I brought a triple 8 comfort sweat helmet and at 29 years old its one of the best skate investments ive made... i aint trying to go pro at my age and dont really care to much about impressing anyone at my local skatepark or street spots and after a couple bad falls I quickly realized i cant catch my falls and protect myself nearly as good as when i was a young and seasoned skater. ( im sure as i continue to progress in skating ill also progress in my fall/bailling ability)
Though i havent put it to its test yet just knowing i can take a nasty unexpected fall and not have to worry about a serious head injury has boosted my confidence and progression hugely! and if you skate with your own child/children or nieces/newphews then it sets a good example for them to wear protective equipment well skateboarding themselves.
I've been skating for quite a long and yet, till this day I don't know anything about the differences on the boards. I used to skate 7.5 and now I skate 8.0. That's the only difference I can tell though. Great video, Ben!!
Just stumbled upon this shape/mold with the new Mason Silva decks. SO good. Please consider putting this in the Canada Skate Shop Lineup.
Thx for the upload. Good review. I use to ride a smaller wheelbase when I was in my teens and man, my pops were way higher. Turn on your ADS next time Benihana.
14'' wheelbase is probably the best, feel like every trick gets easier. came from a polar with a 14.75" to a poetic deck with a 14" wheelbase (might even be a tiny bit smaller) especially treflips as you mention feels good. Great review!
6:02 that nollie inward heel was beautiful
Love that part of this vid was filmed at a worksite, romex runs everywhere :) Strongly considering getting a Real/Deluxe board for a 2nd setup bc your reviews are so consistently positive. Skating an 8.38 31.5" Almost/Dwindle board now and I really love everything about it but it is very very stiff. I want something different, but not tooo different..8.25 with steeper concave and more flex would be cool
We need that Indy Titanium 149 video review!
Amazing skate session, beautiful Vancouver scenery, great video over all! And you topped it off with that great line, good job!
thanks for your informative and insightful videos. I somehow "quit" skating without even noticing way back, but thanks to your videos I found inspiration to just go have fun and feel good again, so thanks alot for that. I also bought the full SE real deck and it was such a sweet "cute" deck, I rode it on indy 49 hollows and slim bones v3's, such a great combo, with my loose trucks, i felt like daewon song immediatly and instantly got back to my groove , my grip was perfect after 4 months although my nose/tail was destroyed. I just couldnt miss these casual flips and tricks.
your reviews are spot on!
I have watched all of your Vancouver carpenter videos, learned alot of tricks to help finish a buddy's house (I'm a finish carpenter as well, definitely not a mudder LOL) and I did NOT know that you skate..and skate well! Damn dude, you're awesome! Doing Canada proud. Love from Manitoba!
The skate clips were some of the best I've seen from you Ben!
I never get to film lines because I often skate solo. It was nice to be able to show more than one trick at a time.
Ben, deck reviews are the lifeblood of this channel. Also I’m hoping Destructo sends you the trucks I requested from them
Review an FA/Hockey!
I'm skating the exact same deck right now! (but different graphic). I found the nose shape a little weird at first (probably just me) but i loved it once i got used to it.
Could you do a video on risers? I used to use Lucky risers, hardware, and bearings on green Titan trucks back in the day. I don't see anyone using risers, or Titan trucks any more. I think Lucky is still around though.
Every time you post a new video I go looking at different products trying to figure why I can’t kickflip properly at 30 years old anymore. And when you said you grew skating smaller boards - it hit me that in my prime around 16-19 I would only ride 7.75 decks. And now bc of the whole bigger board crazy I’m on a 8.38 and it’s just so hard to get a good flat ground kickflip
amazing sessions both the manual and the park, killed it once again. I'll try SE one day cuz I felt the old 8.38 Real deck I had was so huge, so this video helped!
that abc line was 9 club status!
Really good review bro. I've only had one slick deck too, I was also 12. The Blind, Rudy Johnson Olde English 40 deck. I loved that board. I hope Blind reissues that one at some point.
Have you skated any DSM decks?
I've been skating them almost exclusively for the last 5 years and I really like them. I'd like to hear your opinion on how they work for you. In particular I really like their (full shape) 8.375 x 32.2 medium concave medium kick boards. Although I do wish the noses on them were a little bit steeper.
dude.... Ben...You are so sick at skating my man! That was an impressive session at the park. I Love the Real slicks btw they are great boards.
Are you going to review the new Andy Anderson Powell? Hearing your take on it and how it handles across flat, ledge, and bowl would be really interesting.
I'm an other skateboarding elderly. The stretch video was good and I'm also a nerd with experimenting with all the different setups. When I was young it was limited to the materials I had. Even now I've experimenting own made slick board. It was nah...
i love that deck graphic, like the base of a swimming pool
Just noticed that the manual pad at UBC is a stack o' books. Well played UBC, well played.
i have one like this, the Busenitz full se model, size8.25..and today i got the Sovrn Alex Midler 'Pull' deck 8.25..it has the exact same dimension (32l and 14.25wb) ,medium concave and same full shape
I literally just got a chocolate which is a 8.25 but a 14. Inch wheel base and I love it. And I'm not exactly a small dude I'm 6ft 3 lol but for real that small wheel base and having a wide board makes for so much good technical tricks imo
That sounds awesome.
Just found your channel very recently and I love your videos but I wanted to ask what your opinion on almost decks are? I never see anyone mention mullen's brand
I like the look of the shape on that board.
Hey Ben, love your videos! Keep up the great work! I also really enjoy the blunt, very rounded nose's of deluxe boards. You mentioned for a quick second that FA had a similar shape? Curious because i may give FA a try if thats the case.
FA are even blunter. May as well skate a shovel! But seriously, a lot of people are into that but I think it's fashion over function with how far they take it.
Love your videos man. You should turn on ads, you deserve getting some money from your videos, there quality!
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Hahaha I just commented that I liked Real Slicks right? Then as you said i looked you up on Insta and saw that the Ishod Real Slick that you skated is the same one I skated last. Excellent Board and out of all the boards out there fairly coincidental. Im interested to hear your thoughts.
nollie inward heel and hard flip off the bump were so nice!
Dude you looked so tight and so clean ! Like on point !
You should review a Baker b2 board with the steep concave
Good call
All Deluxe and Baker boys Dist use the same wood
@@dustskateboardco1644 Hell yeah and the best wood, I wanna try anti hero and real after my deathwish
@@recession81 Deathwish is killer got the same Jake Hayes board twice
@@alexaquiningoc6239 Hell yeah I got a Jamie Foy graphic the Deathwish board shapes are amazing
True!!! , I was riding 8.25 boards and obtained A 8.0 size board board on accident,, turned out good because my flip tricks fealt easier and pop in general sky rocketed, probably because of less weight on my feet but still I'm keeping 8's for now👍👍
I'm riding a 8.25 right now. Love the comfort. But damn real heavy on flipping
I was riding a 8.13 before. Was perfect I'm gonna go back a lil smaller next board
Now let me add a Note about Real Skateboards and their great Customer Support:
I ordered my Davis Torgerson Perimeter Full SE at a Store in Germany and it came with a 4-Inch Crack in the Bottom Layer, along the Length Axis of the Deck, reaching from about 2 Inches of the Tail end to the Flat Area of the Board. As the Clearcoat Finish was inside the Crack, it was quite obvious that this was not a Result of Mishandling but a Fabrication Fault. So i contacted Real Skateboards via their Website and received their Reply within about one Hour. They asked me to send a Photo of Proof and a Copy of the Receipt via Email. After checking the Photos, they offered me to send a Replacement Deck without Arguing.
We all know that Factory Faults can happen and slip through Quality Control from Time to Time, but the Response of Deluxe/Real Skateboard Customer Care Office was just GREAT. Correct and Effortless.
I give an additional THUMBS UP for this painless Support Experience!
If Powell Peralta releases Andy Andersons flight deck shape - are you gonna give it a try?
Maybe. I have a hard time even looking at that board to be honest.
@@bendegros It ain't pretty, but I want to try one so bad... Bad enough I will probably drop the near $200AUD it will cost to get one.
Been waiting for the review on that deck you've been skating for a while now.
Hyped!
So, which deck would you personally prefer between the Powell Brad-M flight-D, and the "Real-short" deck in this vid?
Real by a fairly large margin. They need to stiffen flight decks up a touch in my opinion which would increase the weight a bit but I think they would sell better. Most people just can't get past their first reaction of how a flight deck feels. That was my biggest reason I didn't want to try them.
@@bendegros Gottcha, thanks.
I'm seriously so intrigued by your foot placement tip on flat decks that I took a flat deck I hated off my wall and am just waiting for fit weather to giver-a-go.
Thanks for the inspiration.
Don't set your expectations too high. I hope it helps:)
I also recently switched to a 14inch wheelbase and like it a lot. I feel I have more control and, somewhat counterintuitively, better balance..
Really good lines!!!! And just a question is Ted Degros a family members of yours? I just saw for the first time is part in a old Alien Workshop video and it was really good!!! And you grow so much as a reviewer since your beginning, you're just better and better continue your good works.
they're bros
I swear the “flat” decks from real are like the steep decks from baker judging by the kick I see here. I haven’t skated a real in over a decade. I only skate baker and like primitive for a change off. But I’m curious was the slick deck you had when you were 12 a lib tech?
Nope. Plan B Pat duffy model. Star Wars series.
What wood comoany makes Real and what other companies use it? I was thinking, due to the condition of the board, that you didn't do any boardslides. But then tou did boardslides. Seems like that board really held up well for 5 weeks.
I skated mostly flatground on this board which is why it looks so fresh. The grip was wearing down and it was getting pretty razor tailed though. I have been having lot's of sessions during my son's soccer practice so that means asphalt parking lots.
Ever consider doing some true mad science and setup a board with two different trucks on it? How bad, weird, or possibly advantageous
could it be to have one Indy and one thunder or venture with similar axle / height if possible?
I want to be you when i grow up. or skate like you at least lol. I skated nothing but girl/chocolate for years. Tried a Real and now i only want DLX decks. Real has my favorite squad too so i'm all about supporting them. I never paid attention to board length or wheelbase, but now im getting back into skating again I want to give it more attention to see if it'll help me.
@@emmanuel6702 wish i hadn’t stumbled upon his channel, now I’m picky !!
I've been watching your videos back when u had only 100 subscribers . Keep up with the good work I have no clue why u aren't sponsored
Look at that tre flip 2:56...it was a pure beauty
Much love from Italy ❤️ keep killing it Ben
You should try the baker og mellow shape if you haven’t already...I recommend it.
I was honestly going to message you for a deck suggestion, but this video pretty much shows this deck is what I was looking for. I still wanna know how you get those nollie inwards crispy.
Okay, okay. Nollie inward heel tutorial coming within the next month.
@@bendegros Your the man. Keep shreddin'
Thanks for that review! I skate a Justin Brock Deck atm, which is also a shorter 14" wheelbase, 31,45" long Deck by Real, but the Tail is steeper than the Full SE, a little steeper than the Flight Deck's Kick, which is also flat but its Concave is too mellow for my Taste. I will sure have my Hands (and Feet) on a Full SE next time.
Got mine today,it was on retail, and hung it on the wall for future use. It's thinner than my Real Justin Brock (same size and wheelbase) by a fraction (0.3mm), thus lighter by a few dozens of grams, and definitely flatter tail and nose by 1-2 degrees, which you can feel when you directly compare them.
Did Real discontinue these?
I quickshot this deck, because i saw them going out of stock in europe and when checking the Real website, the Torgerson Perimeter Full SE is not listed there any more.
I try venture's hi on deck with shape almost like this. but with steeper concave and longer wheelbase. And I just can't do a kickflip on it - it always be a rocket. Now I trying to find a flatter deck for this trucks
Is there an explainer on board sizes and dimensions. Pretty new to skateboarding and have no idea what all these sizes refer to
i absolutely hate venture trucks lol.
I skate krux dlks.
I occasionally will switch out the krux axel for tensor maglite axels lol. i used to like low trucks the most, but when i switched the axels back to the krux axels, my pop got like another inches and it feels like i have more board controll lol
raining here too in england , your videos are the best man keep up the good work!
Just got this board in an 8.5, feels so good to skate a flat board with big feet, i dont need an 8.75 anymore
I'd like to hear your opinion on this: So im a taller/heavier guy (193cm/90kg), which means that the board flex alot. Just standing in a ollie position, and the middle and tail will flex like mad. I've always looked at it as a benefit. Like it would have some sort of spring effect. What do you think?
Freddy T no Problem. I am 200 cm about 83 kg and have no problem with boards snapping much. Maybe we would have problems jumping stair sets or something
that nollie inward was butter
Is that a slick deck cuz I had an ishod board it was a slick it had all those little squares all over the board
Are you a pro? Is it true for park skating you want a wider deck like 9"+?
I'm not pro. 8.5" is more than big enough for park. I've been riding 8.5 these days.
I’m debating on whether a real or creature deck any ones opinions which is better I’ve tried real but haven’t tried creature
that line... I also like shorter wheelbase, it took a lot of years for me to figure out what was that difference between my boards. It was the wheelbase, not the shape. Also I realised I like flatter decks more with my indys, but always had steep concaved decks haha. Now I know, but Im also 30 now and thats too late to realise haha
No it's not. I only learned about wheelbase last year!
what boards do u like skating in combination with thunders? what wheelbase?
You ever try the twin tail real board
Yeah i want a real but i prefer short wheelbase. Also ben killed it at the end. Sweet hardflip.
damn that was some good skating. nice review bro
DAMN, Ben. You rip. I ride: Real Kyle Walker 8.25, Forged Titanium Stage 11 144s, Spitfire F4 101D 52mm
Is there a huge difference between 8.0 to 8.06? Really want to skate an Anti Hero deck.
The difference is exactly .06 inches. Huge or small that’s what it is. But honestly you probably couldn’t tell the difference by looking it’ll be a minute change.
I seem to be getting ghost pop with my Anti-Hero deck (which I think has a similar shape). Any idea what I can switch up to help prevent that?
Nick I assumed you rode 8.06 deck, get thunder 147 or indys forge with 50mm wheels
literally the perfect deck and love that graphic with the texture on the bottom but there's nothing like that in stock right now :((
Can you review a og concave baker deck maybe vs a B2 baker deck
Thank you for the video Ben - very informative.
Dude you’re killing it!
That little park looks hella fun
Hey ben, where is that underground spot? My friend and I have been looking for a good place to skate during rainy season in richmond
It's the Canadian Tire on marine drive in Vancouver. Super close to Richmond.
Ben Degros sick thanks a lot
Why not do a review on Element boards?
I liked the continuous footage.
that nollie fs flip..... on demand
Really nice review, i skated 7.5/6/7 alot, cause i'm old (XD) and the trend for wide boards for street i don't understand well, specially if you don't jump gaps. I thought that wide boards were for park, someone can tell me, why enjoys wide decks for flat tricks and grind tricks?
Thanks.
Theres more skateparks worldwide then ever before... hence, more and more kids are growing up skating park/transition than they are street skating, those that do still actually street skate are no strangers to park riding either and since most parents aint buying kids multiple $200-300 skate setups... having a single board setup that fits multiple skate subsets/scenarios matters.
You've got to keep in mind that kids dont have the luxury of owning both a park board and street board so having a single board setup that does a bit of everything is kinda a must for modern skaters... hence bigger wheels and wider boards becoming more common over the years eventhough such setups might not excell at any given skate task, they can perform adequate for most any skate scenario you throw at them... a jack of all trades type of setup if you will... and thats what I believe must modern skaters are looking for these days, something then can huck down sets, finesse on flat ground and yet still manage to rip around in transition parks.
But like with everything in life trends come and go and everything comes back around eventually... skaters started on wide boards went to skinny for a decade or two and now we been back to wide boards for awhile now and in another 3-5 years the industry trend might switch back to slimmer/smaller boards once again... infact prof. Peter Schmitt during his nineclub interview claims to already be seeing a trend among pro skaters moving back towards slimmer and smaller boards, but the industry lacks behind popular pro trends by years (hence why twin tail and twin nose boards arent more readily avaliable to us consumers despite a clear growing trend among pros to ride symmetrical shapes and a clear desire from consumers to try such board types for themselves.... yet twin tail and twin nose boards are still near impossible to find.) so it'll be another 3-5 years before us consumers begin to notice the shift back to slimmer and smaller boards from a retail standpoint... but many many pros have already begun the process of downsizing there boardsize like guys that were known for wide boards just a few years ago are all going back down to 8.0s and 8.125s from 8.5's+ given a few more years we could legitimately see 7.5-7.8s rise in popularity again... 8-8.25 seems to be the sweet spot in which the most elite of elite skaters are riding right now... still a few elite riders killing it on 8.375+ but i think the majority have begun the shift back down the scale.
I always use the full se after getting the zion wright glitch deck
what board has the longest, biggest wheel base?
This sounds like the perfect board for me!
Great review and great sesh man, you have a new follower waiting for the next video👌
Sure some of us would like to see some shoe reviews! No pressure though since that crap is expensive unless you can get companies to send you stuff :)
how do you think wb affects your ability to hill bomb?
What about venture lo with the full se deck ?
Up until a few days ago I was skating everyday because the weather was amazing! Now reality in Vancouver has set in and it's raining 😥
Duuuuuuuude I know!! I miss that beautiful weather. I will have my portable ledge setup soon. I can't wait.
@@bendegros I wish I could skate ledges because I'd be tempted to join you. I think at 38 I might be a little old to start learning lol
no dislikes !!! Keep it UP mr. Ben !
excellent review bro... 👍🏼
Have you done a revive board review?
I cant skate small boards, im skating a 9.25 rn. Theyre sick and flips real good
a friend and I were skating a parkinglot by some forest yesterday... I hope we didnt get any "trick ticks".
haaaw...haaaw...haw...
(we actually went skating in the woods, so I had to make this joke ^^)
great video
Small boards are good for warming up on flat ground, but that’s about it.
do a mini logo 8.0 242 deck review
Ben Degros
Your flat grounds not the highest, but very few non pros have such nice looking flat ground as yourself.