A great review Ben! I have noticed the steepness in the nose and tail on mine. I’ve found that I have to bend my knees a bit more when doing nose and tail stalls on mini ramp.
Low pro is insane with Indy’s. Ordered like 5 in 8.06 after skating it. Just in case the stop making them lol. Love it on Indy titanium’s with 52mm. Less effort to pop on the Indy Ti s
Jason Fouladi maybe I bought them all??? I’m skating the last low pro mellow ones i could find. This is my 10th one. I can’t find them in stock online any more either. Should have bought 50 of them lol
Also whats your opinion on really wide boards with short wheelbases? Never had one but I'm considering this Chocolate "big boy" deck (8.75/ 14 in wheelbase) or this Tired deck thats about the same. In promo vids, Chico Bernes very much accredits this boards performance to its short wheelbase. I like wide body's so I'm very curious, but I'm tall but and wondering if that would conflict with my legs lol. I'm 6ft and about 215, prefer 8.5s that are usually 32 in length not sure of there wb's.
You can get used to the shorter wheelbase. You will probably notice it at first. The main difference for me is usually the weaker pop. That is what I have the hardest time with. As long as I ride them with Thunders I can usually tolerate it.
Great review as always. Looking forward to your analysis of the Low Pro Mellow. I suspect Real addressed the "crazy steep feeing" and "ghost pop" issues you described. Also, please dig into your impressive quiver of trucks to determine the optimal setup for the Mellow. Thanks again; you're saving us time and money with your insightful analysis.
Hey Man, stumbled upon your channel a couple weeks back, very insightful. I'm riding a similar set up to Andrew Reynolds, 139 indies on a 8.5 almost board. The board had very steep tail and nose, I recommend reviewing one and comapring it to said board above "real" In my random unworthy opinion i find having 139's on a 8.5 board kind of cool in a way, kick flips feel like a spitroast, if you know what i mean? They way it spins, giving the illusion its done on a smaller board. Something to ponder on
Just started skating Real, only because my local was out of Zero. So...Ben, thanks for all the videos and good times. You kinda made me get a measuring tape. :-)
What's good man, I'm only 24 but I love the channel your filling in a huge informational gap in in skateboarding. That being said the all this wheelbase stuff has tripped me out since being introduced to the concept. You often mention your wheelbase preference in relation to your height. Do you mind sharing what your hieght is??? Weight too would be nice.
Found you at first getting drywall tips. I'm getting back into skating and after a few videos of yours, you said you did construction. Then it hit me. hahaa! Thanks for all the help
is this the biggest concave you can find in a board? Which other decks have big/high concave? Do you have any idea why i cant find Low pro with high concave in Europe? Thanks a lot man and keep it up \m/
@@theasianviking86 i ve tried them before 2 years and they are deep , but i didnt like the wood much.... i think they changed factory or something but i m not sure! any other recommendation maybe?
@@sardanapalos sorry only real/krooked and jart i know use deep. Well try out poetic boards.. from Malmö Sweden but know they should be out there in EU and they have deep concave
I just got one of those REAL recycled boards a couple months ago. Was really really good at first, but it just cracked through the top of the deck and I'm just shy of 150lbs and don't skate stairs or gaps so that's kinda disappointing.
Hey Ben Degros , love your videos man, idk if your reply but worth a shot lol I've been skating for like 16 years so I'm pretty stuck to my ways lol but I really wanna try the Real low pro. As I love concave, but I also wanna try the flight decks, as i hate getting soggy boards and then fin chips . Which board did you prefer ??
Both those decks are on opposite ends of the spectrum. The flight deck feels soft when it is brand new but you can get used to it. Flight decks are not my preference. Low Pro decks on the other hand are insanely steep. To steep for a lot of peoples taste including mine. Only go for the low pro if you like it as steep as they come. I haven't tried the low pro mellow yet but I bet they are probably a better choice for most peoples taste.
A tip that may help when skating something with a lot of concave like that and high nose/tail is to push back/forward when doing ollie/nollie with your tricks. So if you were to pop it's not really straight down but more behind/infront of you if you ollie/nollie. I think this is what you are doing when you lean back for your tre-flips. You can keep the same stance as normal just push it in front/behind more. It's like you're ollieing at an angle. Think of "boning" out a kickflip/etc.
you had a video about steep kicks and said "tell me your opinion about em in the below" and i said that they're really good with low trucks because it evens out the height of the steep kicks so you dont get ghost pop and its really poppy. i use the same trucks too
Ben i have a question for you- why aren't recesses where wheel bite occurs more common? If it's a question of board strength, surely for a skater like you, who avoids large impacts, this would't be an issue anyway? you make a point at 5:23 about the benefit of the tiny amount of room the concave of the board gives you against wheel bite, so why not get a board with carved recesses and never have to think about wheel bite again??
do you use your legs a lot at work? 34 and getting back into skating. broke my elbow in the process and now getting back the obviously shaken confidence (2 month recovery so far)
I work as a carpenter so I am on my feet all day. Sorry to hear about the elbow. I hope you are able to get back to it and have a relatively incident free future on board.
I think real measurements are 0.0625 plus for every size so: 8.0625 (8.06), 8.1875 (8.18), 8.3125 (8.25), 8.4375 (8.38)...so on and so forth. Anyway great review as always, much love from Italy ❤️ keep killing it Ben!
No, I bought a 8.06 x 31.8 last week. I measured it and it’s exactly 8 inch wide and 31.75 long. Maybe on other boards from Real it’s different. It’s my first Real Deck. I would recommend them, great quality.
I've been really wanting to get an old school FLIP wave construction, but I guess they discontinued them as I cant find that shit ant where . Wave construction with some g3 grinskings , favorite street setup I've ever had!
Hey Ben, I’m a new sub and I have to thank you on the fact of your videos being so helpful and inspirational. I stopped skating about 6 years ago but I’ve always followed it, however now I am ready to get back on again. I have a quick Q for you, I’m getting a 8.25 board and was set on getting Thunder 148’s. But I’ve been seeing a lot of people that ride 8.25 are going with Thunder 149’s, unfortunately I do not have the option of buying both sizes and trying them out so it’s an all or nothing type deal. Any suggestions? Again thank you for all the videos keep’em rolling! 🤘🏼
If you might want to go up in deck size get 149. If you might want to go down in deck size get 148. 8.25 is the smallest deck you can reasonably ride on 149.
I started skateboarding less than a year, and I am 34. omg, please stop saying you are too old :D I keep telling myself that I can improve, and learn tricks, but every time you says you are old it makes me feel bad :D
I’m using venture hi and they don’t work well with real boards. Manuals, Nose manuals, & ollies just seem off even after a month or more of skating the board... you may be right a lower truck would be better.
May have beencovered already, but what roman numeral was stamped on the top of the deck, I is steepest/deepest (bottom in press - IV is the most mellow (top in press)
I've had 4 of these decks in the past few months. They are absolutely amazingly perfect for my atv style of skating, I'm 37 now and try to get a little bit of every terrain in when I get out to ride. These decks are very steep w lots of concave, which is great for me. I just set up a Powell Flight deck a few days ago and it feels so awkward and weird to me:-/ I've tried to make the best of it but just can't stand the shape or length of it ! Flight boards are really nice but spendy for sure, but don't work for me. Switching back to a Lo-Pro today:-) Think I may try that Chima shape u showed in this video... Flight board for sale any buyers out there? Lol! Thanks Ben you rip doggie! Keep the vids comin bro! Cheers from Portland Oregon 🍻
I ghost pop ollies over manholes by accident and it always feels weird. I'm skating the 8.25 Hockey Andrew Allen pro model by ps stix with thunder team 148s and 52mm formula four lockins.
Seems like you skated it hell of a lot better with thunders. False advertising. Lol.. . .. decided to type this before the kickflip nose manny and following tricks, but still. Flat ground is key essential. Interesting how you did 8.25 on 149 thunder and didn't go straight to indy. LOL. Awesome video. (That wasn't sarcasm) ... was thinking about using a wknd 8.25 and 169s. .. I've been using shoe sizes a size too big for a while kind of, because it gives me a broader flick. I used to be able to treflip like Tony Hawk or Lance mountain or some skate god with janoskis true to size, a real 8.38 mellow, thunder 149s (i forget follow axle or not, don't think it really matters all too much???), and regular bearings in spitfire 53mm classic shapes. Not trying to brag, just mentioning switching up setups can be fun. I'm thinking I might be able to recreate that type of leverage using a slightly skinnier board with wider trucks and longer shoes, given they are stiff enough. However, using loose trucks played into the give of my treflips back then too, because it was more playful, a perfect fit for true to size shoes. Can't kickflip good with that though. No freedom to pop as high as you want, for me. I ride a 8.5 now with 169s and classic 53mm spitfires and size 12 shoes and ceramic bearings, thinking about getting a separate 8.25 setup for filming on cause it looks better like the bronze guys have and repp, but with the 169s. Otherwise I'd probably get a 8.38 and 149 setup for fun and alternation/recreation. I used to go from 8.38 and 8.25 and 8.5 and back around like it was my job (even had a 8.62 given to me and used canvas shoes and the rigid flick on the contrast of that and the rubber to fling that thing around. ) just wondering if I should look into a wknd for its all terrain shape or think about a low pro if I'm going to be using a way bigger truck. Probably all depends on if I want to skate a bulky shoe or not
P.s. I've experimented with 9s and size 11s toe cap and not and 8.75 longs with 11s and even 10.5s and 8.75 (more pop)sicle type (what I call shorter decks) with size 11 shoes or whatever... all on 169. Size doesn't matter to me cause I could skate down to 8.125 or 8.1 and could have fu but always rode 149s. I realized they didn't have enough weight to provide me enough leverage to kickflip right and I was cutting myself short on my skate experience, more like I was just riding a car that I could 3 shuv and eventually discovered a board I can put my soul into and use effort to skate well with instead of *just finesse
How about avenues trucks? I have a pair on an 8.25 flight deck. They really help the knees and legs but tricks can be tricky haha... Can you help a 38 year old poser please.
Ben Degros I deff get that for sure. Maybe that's why I want seem to get more consistent. But after using them it's hard to go back to my thunders due to the impact differences but i think I'm gonna switch back to my thunders. Thank you for the reply brother! I love your channel, it gives me and many others inspiration to skate or start a RUclips channel.
You've been looking for a good outro. Maybe you can just sign off with a 💨 from now on. 😂 I'd be interested to see how you feel about bamboo skateboards. They had way too much concave and steepness for a noob like me. I was gonna call an exorcist to deal with all the paranormal pops.
I'm on STF's right now and I agree. Bones are good. A little bit stickier and harder but still a high performance wheel. My only complaint is that 103a is way too hard for rougher ground. Spitfires have a little more give.
Give that board a shorter wheelbase and it'd be just my fit. ...I think...I haven't tried a low-pro yet. Seems interesting though. Gotta admit, I really like the white graphic over the pink wood-grain. I'm not a huge fan of the color pink, but that's probably the coolest wood grain ever, imo.
I haven't been able to wrap my old fashioned mind around wearing trendy pink clothes but I will admit I love the magenta colour scheme on this deck. I have always liked magenta plys.
Lol, me neither, and me too. I'm skating a shop blank right now that has no colored plies. I HATE IT! Love the shape though. Definitely a shape I could take home to mom.
This was one of them memoryscreened.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/ginopanther.jpg But I have had so many skateboards I really can't remember all my favourite ones.
Ben Degros Thanks for your quick reply. I love your videos. I am also 36 and started skateboarding again half a year ago. I am not good, but that does not matter. Because I just enjoy it😊
1 of my local skate shops mostly carries real. They have girl/chocolate but nothing my size. I ride mellow concave so I asked him to get baker which is all I ride. He said no and if I like mellow get low pro. Like wtf dude. That’s still way too much concave. Baker has steep concave molds that I can ride fine because they really aren’t that steep. Just steep for baker. But seriously I’m 33 and I’ve been skating for 20 years. I know what I want and have the money to buy it. Bad business in my eyes. I stopped going there and went somewhere that carries my brand and size.
man the best deck ive ever skated was a polar deck, i think there bb/gen woodshop but anyway, Im definitely gonna get one of these low pro deck :) keep up the good videos man
Understood. I'm actually riding the same REAL Low Pro (mine is an 8.4") board shown in this video with the Indy 149 forged titanium trucks right now (hollow kingpin). The trucks are not cheap, but well worth it. I'm switching up to SOVRN 8.38" deck in the near future. I don't know if you've ridden any SOVRN decks, but they're ridiculously light.
I will get on it. I have a pretty good feel for them now. They don't have very good grip IMO so I switched back to the matchcourts as my deck got older.
Also, since you’re a drywall finisher/painter etc, i’m looking to get into painting for a job as a 19 yr old with little experience. There’s tons of painting businesses around me and everywhere really.. any tips/tricks?
I have another channel called Vancouver Carpenter. It's mosty drywall still but there will be lot's more carpentry and painting videos coming in the near future. Painting wouldn't be my first choice for long term career though. Good for the short term but it's hard on the body and has too much cheap competition.
I've never thought so much about the specs of my setups prior discovering this wonderful channel.
Would love to see a review on the mellow version. Keep it up!
Holy shit dude! You’ve gotten way better! Keep killing it you old man lol
that fart at the end.... common... XD we build up a Picture of you... and you destroyed it! XD
I was worried you guys might be getting the wrong impression. I had to set you straight.
success! XD
A great review Ben! I have noticed the steepness in the nose and tail on mine. I’ve found that I have to bend my knees a bit more when doing nose and tail stalls on mini ramp.
Looking forward to your review of the Powell flight deck, Great reviews as always thanks Ben.
Low pro is insane with Indy’s. Ordered like 5 in 8.06 after skating it. Just in case the stop making them lol. Love it on Indy titanium’s with 52mm. Less effort to pop on the Indy Ti s
As long as we keep buying the decks they make hopefully they will continue to create what makes them glorified in skateboarding.
I can't find anymore low pro 2 decks wtf WHY!!!!!
Jason Fouladi maybe I bought them all??? I’m skating the last low pro mellow ones i could find. This is my 10th one. I can’t find them in stock online any more either. Should have bought 50 of them lol
Also whats your opinion on really wide boards with short wheelbases? Never had one but I'm considering this Chocolate "big boy" deck (8.75/ 14 in wheelbase) or this Tired deck thats about the same. In promo vids, Chico Bernes very much accredits this boards performance to its short wheelbase. I like wide body's so I'm very curious, but I'm tall but and wondering if that would conflict with my legs lol. I'm 6ft and about 215, prefer 8.5s that are usually 32 in length not sure of there wb's.
You can get used to the shorter wheelbase. You will probably notice it at first. The main difference for me is usually the weaker pop. That is what I have the hardest time with. As long as I ride them with Thunders I can usually tolerate it.
Great review as always. Looking forward to your analysis of the Low Pro Mellow. I suspect Real addressed the "crazy steep feeing" and "ghost pop" issues you described. Also, please dig into your impressive quiver of trucks to determine the optimal setup for the Mellow. Thanks again; you're saving us time and money with your insightful analysis.
Hey Man, stumbled upon your channel a couple weeks back, very insightful. I'm riding a similar set up to Andrew Reynolds, 139 indies on a 8.5 almost board. The board had very steep tail and nose, I recommend reviewing one and comapring it to said board above "real" In my random unworthy opinion i find having 139's on a 8.5 board kind of cool in a way, kick flips feel like a spitroast, if you know what i mean? They way it spins, giving the illusion its done on a smaller board. Something to ponder on
That board is beautiful, not so much the graphic but the overall shape of it
Just started skating Real, only because my local was out of Zero. So...Ben, thanks for all the videos and good times. You kinda made me get a measuring tape. :-)
What's good man, I'm only 24 but I love the channel your filling in a huge informational gap in in skateboarding. That being said the all this wheelbase stuff has tripped me out since being introduced to the concept. You often mention your wheelbase preference in relation to your height. Do you mind sharing what your hieght is??? Weight too would be nice.
I'm 6 foot 1. 170 pounds
I get asked this a lot. I'm used to it now.
Found you at first getting drywall tips. I'm getting back into skating and after a few videos of yours, you said you did construction. Then it hit me. hahaa!
Thanks for all the help
is this the biggest concave you can find in a board? Which other decks have big/high concave? Do you have any idea why i cant find Low pro with high concave in Europe? Thanks a lot man and keep it up \m/
ben? are u here mate? :P
jart does deep/super deep concave boards.. (spain brand)
@@theasianviking86 i ve tried them before 2 years and they are deep , but i didnt like the wood much.... i think they changed factory or something but i m not sure! any other recommendation maybe?
@@sardanapalos sorry only real/krooked and jart i know use deep. Well try out poetic boards.. from Malmö Sweden but know they should be out there in EU and they have deep concave
I just got one of those REAL recycled boards a couple months ago. Was really really good at first, but it just cracked through the top of the deck and I'm just shy of 150lbs and don't skate stairs or gaps so that's kinda disappointing.
Big respect! I know this video is 4 now but you skate really well.
Excellent review and even better digestion! That fart was the epitome of awesomeness 👊😝
It wasn't even on purpose. It just burst out un-invited.
Hey Ben Degros , love your videos man, idk if your reply but worth a shot lol I've been skating for like 16 years so I'm pretty stuck to my ways lol but I really wanna try the Real low pro. As I love concave, but I also wanna try the flight decks, as i hate getting soggy boards and then fin chips . Which board did you prefer ??
Both those decks are on opposite ends of the spectrum. The flight deck feels soft when it is brand new but you can get used to it. Flight decks are not my preference. Low Pro decks on the other hand are insanely steep. To steep for a lot of peoples taste including mine. Only go for the low pro if you like it as steep as they come. I haven't tried the low pro mellow yet but I bet they are probably a better choice for most peoples taste.
Yes please do a review on the low pro mellow decks!
A tip that may help when skating something with a lot of concave like that and high nose/tail is to push back/forward when doing ollie/nollie with your tricks. So if you were to pop it's not really straight down but more behind/infront of you if you ollie/nollie. I think this is what you are doing when you lean back for your tre-flips. You can keep the same stance as normal just push it in front/behind more. It's like you're ollieing at an angle. Think of "boning" out a kickflip/etc.
Yo Ben, can you plz review an alienworkshop us like BBS woodshop.
Love ur vids btw!
So did you prefer the deck with the Thunders over the Indys?
Did you have to think about pulling your knees up more due to the pop or jump forward due leaning back a little more?
Skateboarding Progression @40+ I had to kick down way harder mostly and lean back a bit more.
Another awesome review - Thank You!
Awesome review you should do the powell flight deck next
The Faded Line Support him on Patreon!
He has one and is riding it now probably
you had a video about steep kicks and said "tell me your opinion about em in the below"
and i said that they're really good with low trucks because it evens out the height of the steep kicks so you dont get ghost pop and its really poppy. i use the same trucks too
Is there any different between the Low Pro and the Low Pro II?
Ben i have a question for you- why aren't recesses where wheel bite occurs more common? If it's a question of board strength, surely for a skater like you, who avoids large impacts, this would't be an issue anyway? you make a point at 5:23 about the benefit of the tiny amount of room the concave of the board gives you against wheel bite, so why not get a board with carved recesses and never have to think about wheel bite again??
I'm not sure exactly why we don't do that on street decks. It's probably a strength and cost thing.
Great review 😁 love my low pro at moment. Good job with those front crooks. Looks like your getting those nicely now 👌
Tyrone Davenport nope. Just a lucky one. This one was actually filmed way before my last video.
That back heel was a amazing. 👌🏻 also, idk why but all DLx boards are great 👍🏻 real and antihero krooked
DLX has a secret sauce in the glue. I'm sure of it!
Great review ✌🏻 I’ve never ridden a real deck but my buddy rides them often, they must be pretty decent.
do you use your legs a lot at work? 34 and getting back into skating. broke my elbow in the process and now getting back the obviously shaken confidence (2 month recovery so far)
take your time relearning to just ride
don't be ashamed to wear pads until you have your groove back
Good call.
I work as a carpenter so I am on my feet all day. Sorry to hear about the elbow. I hope you are able to get back to it and have a relatively incident free future on board.
thanks man. def considering getting one for the mentioned elbow
I think real measurements are 0.0625 plus for every size so: 8.0625 (8.06), 8.1875 (8.18), 8.3125 (8.25), 8.4375 (8.38)...so on and so forth.
Anyway great review as always, much love from Italy ❤️ keep killing it Ben!
No, I bought a 8.06 x 31.8 last week.
I measured it and it’s exactly 8 inch wide and 31.75 long.
Maybe on other boards from Real it’s different. It’s my first Real Deck. I would recommend them, great quality.
Try a Powell flight deck, it’s worth the price. Loving mine
I have one. It's next in line.
I've been really wanting to get an old school FLIP wave construction, but I guess they discontinued them as I cant find that shit ant where . Wave construction with some g3 grinskings , favorite street setup I've ever had!
Hey Ben, I’m a new sub and I have to thank you on the fact of your videos being so helpful and inspirational. I stopped skating about 6 years ago but I’ve always followed it, however now I am ready to get back on again. I have a quick Q for you, I’m getting a 8.25 board and was set on getting Thunder 148’s. But I’ve been seeing a lot of people that ride 8.25 are going with Thunder 149’s, unfortunately I do not have the option of buying both sizes and trying them out so it’s an all or nothing type deal. Any suggestions? Again thank you for all the videos keep’em rolling! 🤘🏼
If you might want to go up in deck size get 149. If you might want to go down in deck size get 148. 8.25 is the smallest deck you can reasonably ride on 149.
Hi Ben can i get one of these Boards in Europe now in 2020? couldnt find it
I started skateboarding less than a year, and I am 34. omg, please stop saying you are too old :D I keep telling myself that I can improve, and learn tricks, but every time you says you are old it makes me feel bad :D
been really pleased with my 8.38 full shape. would love to try the low pro if i got my hands on one.
nice review man!
I’m using venture hi and they don’t work well with real boards. Manuals, Nose manuals, & ollies just seem off even after a month or more of skating the board... you may be right a lower truck would be better.
It was definitely much more manageable on the thunders.
I really wish they would make these again . Crazy pop even when the tail is getting pretty worn down.
please review Quasi, one of their new decks is 8.25 and has a really symmetrical and squared off nose and tail, looks interesting:)
May have beencovered already, but what roman numeral was stamped on the top of the deck, I is steepest/deepest (bottom in press - IV is the most mellow (top in press)
The deck was gripped when I got it so I didn't know.
Had one of these for years and it’s razor tailed heavily, still has ridiculous pop but hard to control on a ramp.
I saw that nollie inward heel.Wrapped so good on your foot
:)
Ben what board and truck set up do you recommend for easier pop for tired legs?
You need to look for shorter wheelbases. 14.25 and under. This one was almost 14.5. Pretty hefty.
Also, Indy's, Ace's and Venture Highs have an easier pop if the deck has mellower kicks. The downside is it's harder to get high pop.
I've had 4 of these decks in the past few months. They are absolutely amazingly perfect for my atv style of skating, I'm 37 now and try to get a little bit of every terrain in when I get out to ride. These decks are very steep w lots of concave, which is great for me. I just set up a Powell Flight deck a few days ago and it feels so awkward and weird to me:-/ I've tried to make the best of it but just can't stand the shape or length of it ! Flight boards are really nice but spendy for sure, but don't work for me. Switching back to a Lo-Pro today:-) Think I may try that Chima shape u showed in this video... Flight board for sale any buyers out there? Lol! Thanks Ben you rip doggie! Keep the vids comin bro! Cheers from Portland Oregon 🍻
I have had a feeling I'm going to feel the same way about the flight deck. What trucks do you ride?
What were your thoughts/feelings on the hard luck 6 ball bearings?
They were pretty decent for a cheaper bearing. I didn't ride them too long though but they are still okay after a few weeks.
I ghost pop ollies over manholes by accident and it always feels weird. I'm skating the 8.25 Hockey Andrew Allen pro model by ps stix with thunder team 148s and 52mm formula four lockins.
You need to do a hockey/FA board review
The ending! I’m weak AF!!😂😂😂 That face you made, OMG😅 I had to rewind it to make sure I wasn’t hearing things.
Please do a Baker/Deathwish skateboards Review ☹
Seems like you skated it hell of a lot better with thunders. False advertising. Lol.. . .. decided to type this before the kickflip nose manny and following tricks, but still. Flat ground is key essential. Interesting how you did 8.25 on 149 thunder and didn't go straight to indy. LOL. Awesome video. (That wasn't sarcasm) ... was thinking about using a wknd 8.25 and 169s. .. I've been using shoe sizes a size too big for a while kind of, because it gives me a broader flick. I used to be able to treflip like Tony Hawk or Lance mountain or some skate god with janoskis true to size, a real 8.38 mellow, thunder 149s (i forget follow axle or not, don't think it really matters all too much???), and regular bearings in spitfire 53mm classic shapes. Not trying to brag, just mentioning switching up setups can be fun. I'm thinking I might be able to recreate that type of leverage using a slightly skinnier board with wider trucks and longer shoes, given they are stiff enough. However, using loose trucks played into the give of my treflips back then too, because it was more playful, a perfect fit for true to size shoes. Can't kickflip good with that though. No freedom to pop as high as you want, for me. I ride a 8.5 now with 169s and classic 53mm spitfires and size 12 shoes and ceramic bearings, thinking about getting a separate 8.25 setup for filming on cause it looks better like the bronze guys have and repp, but with the 169s. Otherwise I'd probably get a 8.38 and 149 setup for fun and alternation/recreation. I used to go from 8.38 and 8.25 and 8.5 and back around like it was my job (even had a 8.62 given to me and used canvas shoes and the rigid flick on the contrast of that and the rubber to fling that thing around. ) just wondering if I should look into a wknd for its all terrain shape or think about a low pro if I'm going to be using a way bigger truck. Probably all depends on if I want to skate a bulky shoe or not
P.s. I've experimented with 9s and size 11s toe cap and not and 8.75 longs with 11s and even 10.5s and 8.75 (more pop)sicle type (what I call shorter decks) with size 11 shoes or whatever... all on 169. Size doesn't matter to me cause I could skate down to 8.125 or 8.1 and could have fu but always rode 149s. I realized they didn't have enough weight to provide me enough leverage to kickflip right and I was cutting myself short on my skate experience, more like I was just riding a car that I could 3 shuv and eventually discovered a board I can put my soul into and use effort to skate well with instead of *just finesse
How about avenues trucks? I have a pair on an 8.25 flight deck. They really help the knees and legs but tricks can be tricky haha... Can you help a 38 year old poser please.
I'm working on a review. I found them to be too different feeling to really perform on. I don't like the way they separate me from the ground.
Ben Degros I deff get that for sure. Maybe that's why I want seem to get more consistent. But after using them it's hard to go back to my thunders due to the impact differences but i think I'm gonna switch back to my thunders. Thank you for the reply brother! I love your channel, it gives me and many others inspiration to skate or start a RUclips channel.
I know what you mean about traditional trucks feeling unpleasant after. It goes away pretty quick though.
A have a real low pro deck after a week I decided it was not for me had trouble with my flat ground tricks I really had to try to pop it
Yup. All or nothing deck. I enjoyed it most on ledges.
Would like to see your take on the flight deck
you have a really good natural style
it's like a slalom ski
they are harder to use but they result in better performance
You've been looking for a good outro. Maybe you can just sign off with a 💨 from now on. 😂 I'd be interested to see how you feel about bamboo skateboards. They had way too much concave and steepness for a noob like me. I was gonna call an exorcist to deal with all the paranormal pops.
Anthony Tran I have one. It's coming next after the flight deck.
Oh boy. Flight deck, bamboo deck, avenue trucks... looks like it's gonna get funky. XD
Yup.
love the reviews !
If you had to pick between bones stf or spitfire formula four for the best wheel, what would you say?
I prefer spitfires. But it's a really close call.
I'm on STF's right now and I agree. Bones are good. A little bit stickier and harder but still a high performance wheel. My only complaint is that 103a is way too hard for rougher ground. Spitfires have a little more give.
I love steep kicks
I want too buy a skateboard, but i cant make up my mind, baker or real?
Get a real. They last twice as long
Hey Ben, do you have any history of back pain? Or does slating give you some sort of back pain? Do you workout for it?
Thankfully back pain hasn't been a huge issue. I get neck and shoulder pain from my work as a drywall finisher though.
Venture low review? Great work, BTW!
I haven't had a deck worth riding them on in a while. I will see if I can do one by the fall.
All the tricks you landed were super popped.
Kickflip Nose Manny was beautiful 😍
I dont know why but i dont like so much concave. I like my decks almost flat haha
It's just a preference thing. Lot's of people like flat decks.
Great Review!
Thanks Scott! :)
Thank you ben this is what i need i need a low pro.i need more kick hella.the only thing im in the 7s not the 8s for width.
It looks like you can find them in 8.06 but not any smaller.
I'm sure you could get used to an 8". I never thought I would.
I loved my low pro II. But u cant go wrong with any real deck
It suprizes me how well u had some of ur grinds but it took like 4 or 5 tries to get ur 3 foip
I have same tape measure! It’s a good one
guess ill get a steep concave baker board instead of this. didnt want a board with steep nose and tail
Try an Alien. Nice vid as always
Give that board a shorter wheelbase and it'd be just my fit.
...I think...I haven't tried a low-pro yet. Seems interesting though.
Gotta admit, I really like the white graphic over the pink wood-grain.
I'm not a huge fan of the color pink, but that's probably the coolest wood grain ever, imo.
I haven't been able to wrap my old fashioned mind around wearing trendy pink clothes but I will admit I love the magenta colour scheme on this deck. I have always liked magenta plys.
Lol, me neither, and me too.
I'm skating a shop blank right now that has no colored plies.
I HATE IT!
Love the shape though.
Definitely a shape I could take home to mom.
I did one noseslide on my flight deck and it has an unstained ply on the bottom. I got a little bummed.
Awww, that blows.
I was really hoping for the Flight decks to be everything I wanted.
I'm still excited to see your review on it though.
Sneak preview. Very flat. In between medium and mellow concave.
Ben Degros What is your favorite deck of of all time?
This was one of them
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But I have had so many skateboards I really can't remember all my favourite ones.
Ben Degros Thanks for your quick reply. I love your videos. I am also 36 and started skateboarding again half a year ago. I am not good, but that does not matter. Because I just enjoy it😊
Why are they called low pros is the nose and tail are higher
Review square up skateboards next!
Man, haven’t had a low-pro since they came out.
this looks like a shape similar to a dgk deck. bs heel and swtich hardflip was great
So in other words is it safe to say that REAL decks are on your top 5 most liked decks?
juan Shady yup. I think they are doing some cool stuff over there and I always skate well on their decks.
Try a flip deck with your indy´s. :-)
1 of my local skate shops mostly carries real. They have girl/chocolate but nothing my size. I ride mellow concave so I asked him to get baker which is all I ride. He said no and if I like mellow get low pro. Like wtf dude. That’s still way too much concave. Baker has steep concave molds that I can ride fine because they really aren’t that steep. Just steep for baker. But seriously I’m 33 and I’ve been skating for 20 years. I know what I want and have the money to buy it. Bad business in my eyes. I stopped going there and went somewhere that carries my brand and size.
Low Pro's are one of the steepest decks I have ever ridden! Dude is mis-informed.
man the best deck ive ever skated was a polar deck, i think there bb/gen woodshop but anyway, Im definitely gonna get one of these low pro deck :) keep up the good videos man
Just be sure you like steep decks with tons of concave. It really was a lot to handle on the indys.
Do a Zero Deck review
Please do alien workshop 👽
I almost always ride REAL Low Pros with Indys. They work your legs, but the more you ride the stronger you get.
I think I would like it better on an 8" with light indys and a forged baseplate. 8.25 with 149 standards was a bit of a bear.
Understood. I'm actually riding the same REAL Low Pro (mine is an 8.4") board shown in this video with the Indy 149 forged titanium trucks right now (hollow kingpin). The trucks are not cheap, but well worth it. I'm switching up to SOVRN 8.38" deck in the near future. I don't know if you've ridden any SOVRN decks, but they're ridiculously light.
God damn frog's
Low flying ducks!
Damn Barking spiders
Hitting a pebble sounds like a fart.
Farting sounds even more like one:)
Get independent hollows
👍👍👍👍👍👍
6:15 From this angle the nose has an insane lift.
It really does.
Where my nyjah review
I will get on it. I have a pretty good feel for them now. They don't have very good grip IMO so I switched back to the matchcourts as my deck got older.
I do hate steep boards :/
The very first REAL boards that first came out were complete garbage
Numbers deck
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Also, since you’re a drywall finisher/painter etc, i’m looking to get into painting for a job as a 19 yr old with little experience. There’s tons of painting businesses around me and everywhere really.. any tips/tricks?
And it looks like you’re still used to those egg shaped, no concave, skinny 90 boards haha
I have another channel called Vancouver Carpenter. It's mosty drywall still but there will be lot's more carpentry and painting videos coming in the near future. Painting wouldn't be my first choice for long term career though. Good for the short term but it's hard on the body and has too much cheap competition.
Ben Degros thanks. Yea mainly just to start out, short term getting money to pay for my basic needs.