My little brother passed last year and left an almost pristine skateboard. With my 11yr old kid just starting out I felt obligated to give it a go, put the board to use and be a part of my kid's journey. I'm 45 and was never really very good even when I did skate as a teenager. I don't envision any flip tricks in my future but as a beginner who's now semi-obsessed, I've been loving your content and appreciate the effort you put in providing it 👍
This information Professor Schmitt is sharing is gold worth and so interesting to see. I grew up skating in the 90s and this information we could never dream of. Every time you went to the skate shop you tried a different board shape and got used to the board, the end. Now with all the knowledge and we are going back to old school shapes, skateboarding has revolutionized itself and went full circle.
Man, this is just the right amount of nerdiness for me. Prof. Schmitt strikes a fun middle ground between mad scientist and expert in his field. Side note-This little trip has been great for your sub count, good to see man!
Watching Tampa Pro on my TV (Brian Anderson, 46 years old just did his first run), watching Ben DeGros and Paul Schmitt on my phone, and setting up a christmas complete, while it's -12C and 2 feet of snow on the ground...but my garage skatepark awaits. This is a good day.
Seeing him work on my board would be an absolute pleasure. He’s just so knowledgeable and the way he handles and speaks about his work AS he works makes me so happy.😂❤️
I could listen to you guys for hours… Setting up my boards for around 35 years (yes 48 years old), I recently started to prepare the holes with a 90-degree sinker just as big as the diameter of the bolthead for two reasons: I don’t like it when the bolts stick out the grip too far ( feeling and esthetics ) AND there are no pressure-cracks around the holes anymore…works fine for me ✌️from Germany
I honestly think that the mind also plays a huge role in how the board feels. I recently cleaned my bearings and re-lubed them and now the whole board sounds different (it doesn't have those high rustling sounds anymore). It completely changed how it feels for me. Kinda feels like it lost its snap and is more mushy like it got wet or something (which i know is not the case).
Been watching ben for a about 2/3 years now and its cool to see how far his come. I love going back to his old videos from time to time to see how blossomed in front of the camera from then to now.
That was rad. Man, when I was a kid, we didn’t know shit about boards. We had deck width preferences, deck shape and concave, truck preference, wheel size preferences, but I’m not sure we knew why really. The grip under the truck and checking to see if trucks were straight is something I’ve never seen nor thought of in my life. I sorta wonder now had I figured out the minutia as a kid, I could’ve ironed out the variables that wasted my time forcing me to adjust to a new set-up every time, just to start over again in a month when my deck was toast. I loved my trucks worn in cause I did lots of kgrinds and 5-0s. I also got used to the bent uneven bushings. So I hated changing trucks out. Decks I just did my best to find 7.75 boards that were more rounded less pointed. Lots of good content here in this one. 👏👏🤙🤙
I hope these kinds of videos will push brands to highlight these measurements on their website, it makes a whole lot of difference once you wanna buy something specific
I agree with the hardware issue. The Indy heads are too large so even if you tighten from the underside, it still creates craters on the griptape. The holes should be beveled.
Thank you Professor Schmitt. You're a perfect fit for Ben's channel. 😊 Great deck analysis For example I'm immediately going to check if my trucks are parallel with each other.
Wow, that griptape baseplate hack is cool. Also I can confirm that the Tensor nubs actually work really well too. I had never even thought about checking to see if my baseplates were straight but sure enough just took a framing square to both my boards that ive got setup with Tensors and they're both perfectly straight.
Paul Schmitt is the absolute goat! I really respect someone who has put there whole life into something they love. I can’t imagine how many skaters he’s helped and educated. He deserves a place in a hall of fame somewhere
What a cool vid Ben, thanks for sharing this. You're so fortunate to have had this experience with Professor Schmitt, a dream, maybe? What was the most valuable thing you learned?
Oh the other cool way with his griptape on truck method is because the tape is being poked through the truck holes, it sort of acts like a collar around the hardware to remove some of the tolerance between the hole size and hardware width. I'm definitely going start doing this.
Great episode - Mr Schmitt has so much knowledge in everything when comes to skateboards. And as far as your trip goes - I would think meeting with him and picking his brain would be the highlight of your trip.
@@GLadislav23 You must be a novice snowboarder if your hopping rather then popping. On a skateboard you have wheels raising you up but on a snowboard your directly on the snow, on a skateboard your weight is physically on the nose or tail as you pop... a snowboard your feet are positioned more centered in the board and the nose and tail are spread away from your feet. To create pop on a snowboard its a shifting of your body mass (to pre load the board) combined with jumping (to release and pop you up) On a snowboard, to get that pre loading spring effect that schmitt talks about rocker skateboards having... you actually need a camber curve rather then a rocker, so that when you stand up on the snowboard it flattens out and creates that spring action.
@@TysonHook-22- still no pop just hop :) as u saying u using the pretentioned board u just hoping u guys live in lies school is messed up your brains u meant hop up :) send me one video where u can hear snowboarder popping his board and on kickers u just scoop tricks never popped a snowboard and never heard about that term neither Shmitt rules! and he would tell u wagwan
24:11 ohh thats one way to test it. i've felt that before too and i alsoo did the same grip under the baseplate method because i realized it was caused by the truck holes being widened and loose
Professor Schmitt and Ben Degros talking skateboards = bliss. Such a good video and I’m now going to have to go through and look at all my different setups for those little differences and straighten my trucks 😂 thanks you guys 👊
Love your content! One thing I have been experimenting with on my last few decks. Countersink sow in reverse and then sand to 220 grit on the top ply. Just a small amount to give some space for hardware. I do this pre-grip and then once gripped I do the same to clean the grip from under the hardware. It has worked extremely well and allows larger hardware (greater surface area to spread load) to sit more flush and no mushroom to worry about. Clearly this requires setup at home but if you do this pre-park and have a freshie as a backup well.. yeah, give it a whirl!
Just switched from Real Ishod twin tail to Santa Cruz McCoy twin tail. The size and shape of the board is almost the same but that shorter wheelbase on Santa Cruz (14.22) made it much easier to flip and turn. Btw I'd like to hear from Dr Schmidt how do board rails and riser pads affect the board setup
If you want even more of a difference, try the Girl or Chocolate twins with 14" wheelbase. I've got the Girl Malto twin and it's amazing. I've had my eye on that Santa Cruz twin too.
29:03 lol I love Professor Schmitt and ‘Schmitt Stix’ was my first real board - Chris Miller * Faces/Dog full 10” I’ve also bought the reissue and compared it to my OG from 1989 and it lined up perfectly, amazing!
Use carbon fibre grip paste instead of the grip tape. It contains tiny particles to stop parts shifting, designed for carbon parts but it will work to keep the trucks in place and save the extra height added by the grip tape.
Love you Ben and your OCD. why didn’t you get the professor to straighten out your squeaky trucks? 😂 I soap the pivot cups of every pair of trucks I buy because that sound drives me insane!
i laughed out loud a lot, but the one that really got me was grip taping the back truck as well since the front is now "higher." i've only started skating but nerding out is the fun part.
I put a piece of bicycle inner tube rubber under each truck baseplate that I cut with a scissors in the exact size and shape of the bottom of the baseplate to stop the annoying moving around of the trucks after assembly and during the break in period all the way till the deck is dead and I remove the trucks and install it to a new deck if the trucks still have life in them. Where the holes for the hardware goes I cut a tiny square piece of rubber away as drilling is a no go. Drilling a thin rubber will only turn into a tangled mess. But I like the grip tape idea. I think that I will try it in the near future.
Thank you Ben for this video! ❤ I can not imagine anybody who´s more of a dedicated skateboaring nerd than you two guys. 😁 Keeping in mind many of your other videos, (Truck Madness for example), i had to laugh out loud several times as you were talking about so much other skate related stuff like trucks, wheels etc. beside from only the board itself...
i knew that some freestyle boards have rocker to center their foot for footwork but i did not realize that a lot of street deck molds actually had rocker too
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this is like saturday morning tv for skate nerds. thanks to Ben and the Professor for taking the time to make such a cool video.
while sipping my coffee too
My little brother passed last year and left an almost pristine skateboard. With my 11yr old kid just starting out I felt obligated to give it a go, put the board to use and be a part of my kid's journey. I'm 45 and was never really very good even when I did skate as a teenager. I don't envision any flip tricks in my future but as a beginner who's now semi-obsessed, I've been loving your content and appreciate the effort you put in providing it 👍
I'm sorry for your loss and it is awesome that you decided to skate to be a bigger part of your kids life!!!! Kudos to you 👍👍
@@danieloneill5452 Thanks mate ❤
I'm sure your brother would be happy
This information Professor Schmitt is sharing is gold worth and so interesting to see. I grew up skating in the 90s and this information we could never dream of. Every time you went to the skate shop you tried a different board shape and got used to the board, the end. Now with all the knowledge and we are going back to old school shapes, skateboarding has revolutionized itself and went full circle.
Watching somebody with such a strong passion for what he does after so many years in the industry is amazing.
Man, this is just the right amount of nerdiness for me. Prof. Schmitt strikes a fun middle ground between mad scientist and expert in his field.
Side note-This little trip has been great for your sub count, good to see man!
I can back 3 in my dreams too. All pop. Great video to watch with my morning coffee.
I really hope you did a nine club episode while you were on your trip
Would love to see him do one of those tutorials with crob like they did with Andy Anderson and Mike V
Keep it coming! Those videos with PPS are THE BEST!!!
Watching Tampa Pro on my TV (Brian Anderson, 46 years old just did his first run), watching Ben DeGros and Paul Schmitt on my phone, and setting up a christmas complete, while it's -12C and 2 feet of snow on the ground...but my garage skatepark awaits.
This is a good day.
You a little late for “Christmas complete” , but I’m happy for you regardless 😂
@@mateoxmaza2169 christmas complete just means a setup with brand new everything. doesn't have to be on christmas lol
thanks for all the good content over the years ben, really enjoy when you upload.
unironically, thank you for the nerdiest skate content i've ever seen. more please!
Seeing him work on my board would be an absolute pleasure. He’s just so knowledgeable and the way he handles and speaks about his work AS he works makes me so happy.😂❤️
I could listen to you guys for hours…
Setting up my boards for around 35 years (yes 48 years old), I recently started to prepare the holes with a 90-degree sinker just as big as the diameter of the bolthead for two reasons: I don’t like it when the bolts stick out the grip too far ( feeling and esthetics ) AND there are no pressure-cracks around the holes anymore…works fine for me
✌️from Germany
Counter sinking the holes a bit is a good idea as long as you know what you're doing and don't go too deep.
I honestly think that the mind also plays a huge role in how the board feels. I recently cleaned my bearings and re-lubed them and now the whole board sounds different (it doesn't have those high rustling sounds anymore). It completely changed how it feels for me. Kinda feels like it lost its snap and is more mushy like it got wet or something (which i know is not the case).
I KNEW you wouldnt be able let that 1 truck griptape "riser" slide 🤣💕👍
This was wholesome and wonderful to watch. A couple of the biggest board nerds out there, nerding out on a board. Thanks for sharing!
This is what we all need. Skateboarding edumacation.
Been watching ben for a about 2/3 years now and its cool to see how far his come. I love going back to his old videos from time to time to see how blossomed in front of the camera from then to now.
The chemistry was much better in this video. Love it. Super valuable stuff that nobody else covers.
I love this so much. I’ve learned so much from both of you!! That grip tape trick is amazing. Thank you Paul and Ben for this video
That was rad. Man, when I was a kid, we didn’t know shit about boards. We had deck width preferences, deck shape and concave, truck preference, wheel size preferences, but I’m not sure we knew why really. The grip under the truck and checking to see if trucks were straight is something I’ve never seen nor thought of in my life. I sorta wonder now had I figured out the minutia as a kid, I could’ve ironed out the variables that wasted my time forcing me to adjust to a new set-up every time, just to start over again in a month when my deck was toast. I loved my trucks worn in cause I did lots of kgrinds and 5-0s. I also got used to the bent uneven bushings. So I hated changing trucks out. Decks I just did my best to find 7.75 boards that were more rounded less pointed. Lots of good content here in this one. 👏👏🤙🤙
@@DarmokAtTanagra yeah, it was like that for sure.
I hope these kinds of videos will push brands to highlight these measurements on their website, it makes a whole lot of difference once you wanna buy something specific
PS- Professor Schmitt isn't running any special promotions for Ben subs?? 🤔
Love hearing from the professor of skateboards ♥ thanks Ben, Salute!
Ben, you two need to work together or start a series! This is so great! When he called you a princess, that was amazing!
I agree with the hardware issue. The Indy heads are too large so even if you tighten from the underside, it still creates craters on the griptape. The holes should be beveled.
Thank you Professor Schmitt. You're a perfect fit for Ben's channel. 😊 Great deck analysis For example I'm immediately going to check if my trucks are parallel with each other.
Fascinating. The golden combo Degros and Schmitt!
This was one of the greatest skateboard videos I've ever seen in my life and I'm almost 40 years old.
I love how nerdy and in-depth this video is, fantastic work! Also, Ben, what pants are those?
Wow, that griptape baseplate hack is cool.
Also I can confirm that the Tensor nubs actually work really well too. I had never even thought about checking to see if my baseplates were straight but sure enough just took a framing square to both my boards that ive got setup with Tensors and they're both perfectly straight.
These kinds of videos are some of the best skate content on this thing. Love it.
I'd have had to grip both trucks too, that kind of thing would keep me up at night, lol
Have you considered reviewing ace hollows af1’s? Out of the standard indy and thunders ive tried, the ace hollows are my favorite by far
14.5 wheellbase with aces is goldilocks for me. 14.25 wheelbase with thunders feels and measures about the same from axle to axle
Yep, I have a feeling this won't be the last time we'll be visiting with the professor. Great Chemistry between you two nerds!
the collab we've been waiting for for 5 years!
I love this series with the professor.
Paul Schmitt is the absolute goat! I really respect someone who has put there whole life into something they love. I can’t imagine how many skaters he’s helped and educated. He deserves a place in a hall of fame somewhere
What a cool vid Ben, thanks for sharing this. You're so fortunate to have had this experience with Professor Schmitt, a dream, maybe? What was the most valuable thing you learned?
Oh the other cool way with his griptape on truck method is because the tape is being poked through the truck holes, it sort of acts like a collar around the hardware to remove some of the tolerance between the hole size and hardware width. I'm definitely going start doing this.
Thank you for coming to Fort St John and supporting my community! Wish i could have met you! 🎉
Great episode - Mr Schmitt has so much knowledge in everything when comes to skateboards. And as far as your trip goes - I would think meeting with him and picking his brain would be the highlight of your trip.
This is very relevant information for Skateboards builder. Thank you for your great content. Interesting and entertaining.
two of my favorite people in the industry. really enoyed this
Love this video, thanks to both of you for making it!
Almost 100k😮🎉🎉❤
Thanks Ben for another really awesome Vid !! Hope to see a Nine club of you soon Much Love ❤️🤘🏻🛹🇿🇦
Interesting to hear the rocker vs camber aspect. In snowboarding camber boards have more pop then a rocker board.
cause on skate u pop on snow u hop :)
@@GLadislav23 nahh
@@GLadislav23 You must be a novice snowboarder if your hopping rather then popping.
On a skateboard you have wheels raising you up but on a snowboard your directly on the snow, on a skateboard your weight is physically on the nose or tail as you pop... a snowboard your feet are positioned more centered in the board and the nose and tail are spread away from your feet.
To create pop on a snowboard its a shifting of your body mass (to pre load the board) combined with jumping (to release and pop you up)
On a snowboard, to get that pre loading spring effect that schmitt talks about rocker skateboards having... you actually need a camber curve rather then a rocker, so that when you stand up on the snowboard it flattens out and creates that spring action.
@@TysonHook-22- still no pop just hop :) as u saying u using the pretentioned board u just hoping u guys live in lies school is messed up your brains u meant hop up :) send me one video where u can hear snowboarder popping his board and on kickers u just scoop tricks never popped a snowboard and never heard about that term neither
Shmitt rules! and he would tell u wagwan
Professor Schmitt's a wise man that knows any secret about skateboarding industry, nice to hear a few things and take a look and learn a lot. 💎💎👍👍✔✔
24:11 ohh thats one way to test it. i've felt that before too
and i alsoo did the same grip under the baseplate method because i realized it was caused by the truck holes being widened and loose
Was there ever an update about the griptape ontop of truck method?
He's not a scientist, he's a wizard. Brilliant video
Pre-loaded Rocker= brilliance. Paul & crew make the finest cues. 🔥. Shout out to PS STIX Up cycle project!
Professor Schmitt and Ben Degros talking skateboards = bliss. Such a good video and I’m now going to have to go through and look at all my different setups for those little differences and straighten my trucks 😂 thanks you guys 👊
For real ?
Maybe I’m getting old but how do I send a telegram on the app?? 😂
Love your content! One thing I have been experimenting with on my last few decks. Countersink sow in reverse and then sand to 220 grit on the top ply. Just a small amount to give some space for hardware. I do this pre-grip and then once gripped I do the same to clean the grip from under the hardware. It has worked extremely well and allows larger hardware (greater surface area to spread load) to sit more flush and no mushroom to worry about. Clearly this requires setup at home but if you do this pre-park and have a freshie as a backup well.. yeah, give it a whirl!
Love this stuff! The Professor should have his own channel
Holy shit! Vancouver Carpenter and Paul Schmidt? What a find! Great to see this!!!!
Uncle Ben + Professor Paul have me wanting to measure everything now for the sake of skateology!
Hello from the UK thanks for your videos. Love you 😘
This was such a cool video hearing this mad scientist of skateboards
Dream duo come tru, the insight is incredible
Been skating a few years now, and I only just started paying attention to measurements of different decks
Thanks Ben and P Stix for helping skaters find there goldylox board . God bless brother and peace be with you Ben
"I get it princess it's okay" lol I'd be the same way. 😂
great fun, thanks for the cool vid.
Just switched from Real Ishod twin tail to Santa Cruz McCoy twin tail. The size and shape of the board is almost the same but that shorter wheelbase on Santa Cruz (14.22) made it much easier to flip and turn. Btw I'd like to hear from Dr Schmidt how do board rails and riser pads affect the board setup
For riser pads he has a video with Spencer Nuzzi on Ride Channel to get a higher ollie.
If you want even more of a difference, try the Girl or Chocolate twins with 14" wheelbase. I've got the Girl Malto twin and it's amazing. I've had my eye on that Santa Cruz twin too.
@@reup4023 thanks, I'll check
@@getbuckgetbuck thanks, shorter than Real already feels better, I'll check chocolate and girl if I find them in any skateshop around
29:03 lol I love Professor Schmitt and ‘Schmitt Stix’ was my first real board - Chris Miller * Faces/Dog full 10” I’ve also bought the reissue and compared it to my OG from 1989 and it lined up perfectly, amazing!
Use carbon fibre grip paste instead of the grip tape. It contains tiny particles to stop parts shifting, designed for carbon parts but it will work to keep the trucks in place and save the extra height added by the grip tape.
This is as close as I'm ever going to get to watching a psychic give a reading
Daddy Ben, you got special friends on here!
Dude this is gold
the video we´ve all been waiting for :D
Love you Ben and your OCD. why didn’t you get the professor to straighten out your squeaky trucks? 😂 I soap the pivot cups of every pair of trucks I buy because that sound drives me insane!
Amazing vid! Thanks from Brasil
i laughed out loud a lot, but the one that really got me was grip taping the back truck as well since the front is now "higher." i've only started skating but nerding out is the fun part.
I put a piece of bicycle inner tube rubber under each truck baseplate that I cut with a scissors in the exact size and shape of the bottom of the baseplate to stop the annoying moving around of the trucks after assembly and during the break in period all the way till the deck is dead and I remove the trucks and install it to a new deck if the trucks still have life in them. Where the holes for the hardware goes I cut a tiny square piece of rubber away as drilling is a no go. Drilling a thin rubber will only turn into a tangled mess. But I like the grip tape idea. I think that I will try it in the near future.
"Can we do the back truck too because now my front truck is taller." I felt that
Really cool video Ben, you're the cream of the crop mate. Love it. Shoutout to Prof Schmitt it was super interesting.
The nerds found each other. Love it.
Thank you Ben for this video! ❤
I can not imagine anybody who´s more of a dedicated skateboaring nerd than you two guys. 😁
Keeping in mind many of your other videos, (Truck Madness for example), i had to laugh out loud several times as you were talking about so much other skate related stuff like trucks, wheels etc. beside from only the board itself...
you kinda look like a blood elf from world of warcraft
lol, a daddy elf
Is that Cody McEntire board Paul mentioned a Snake Farm deck? 4:34
that Silver Play Button is getting closer and closer.. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I would love a short follow up video to see if the grip tape bothers you or not lol
Thank you for this. Just what I needed.
Probably the most skate nerd video!👌🏻 I'm not sure about the grip tape under the trucks to!😂
Of course you weigh your trucks after 😂
This part 🤣
14:56 when a man of science recognises another man of science 😂 These episodes are solid gold
Ben, you're a bad ass and I like your content. Thank you good sir
how do you feel about PS stix when you know you have always preferred Deluxe boards
great episode!
when you told him you already knew about the grip tape on the truck and he went silent i'm sure he was like THIS GUY FUCKIN KNOWS EVERYTHING
Hi! Are there some common brands that make those pre tensioned decks?
PS did the trucks move after applying the grip? :D
The goat and goat together agin 💯👊🏽🔥🛹
Wonder who made the AWS mind field boards? Had the Arto Saari 8.5 and everything about that board was it.
Schmitt Stix Forever!
always great
the door! nice. why didn't i think of that??
i knew that some freestyle boards have rocker to center their foot for footwork but i did not realize that a lot of street deck molds actually had rocker too
Wait so my razor tailed pressure cracked rusted bearing and miss matched trucks... board isnt optimal?
LMAO when you made him grip the back truck also xD had to scratch that itch