I did this to planting areas on the front of my house. No wood to rot and replace, no plastic that breaks. 10 years on the concrete border and still looking good. I will use your radius corners method when I do the back yard, makes mowing so easy. I also used a better grade of bagged concrete as well, worth every buck. I also like the trick of cutting down the edger! Thanks for the info!
You guys put out some great material. I’ve learned so much from your videos. They’ve given me the confidence to tackle all my home landscaping projects; 10’x18’ shed concrete slab, 30’ CMU planter bed, curved retaining wall, driveway patch, sprinkler/sod installation, and more to come. The professional tips you provide on methods and tool selection have been so helpful in giving me long lasting results.
I learn alot from Sir David as well,...he teaches people the DIYer's easy solutions that can be done without to much effort.!!! Thanks Again Sir David Odell
as someone that likes concrete, and uses it in their work every once-in-a-while, I really like your commentary of why you are doing, or how you achieved your work. It helps in the work flow confidence in my future projects.
I agree, I'm pissed watched specifically to see the end product with the landscaping all put back...whats the point of this? what does it look like finished? Thanks for wasting 10 minutes of my life Odell
I really appreciate the video. My wife and I want to do this between ours and the neighbor’s house and we’ve never done this. Hiring a company is hard because most have a minimum and a small job like this is not worth their time. You really explained it well.
Im in Canada, thé winters are brutal and I honestly love you channel, I’ve been learning a lot and some of your technique have withstood our crazy winters
I'd hire you. Its the little things you do. The thoughtfulness you put into the jobs, that I've seen which make a difference to me. (tarp on the street, collars around pipes, type of concrete you use for each type of job, accommodating the homeowner's change request, etc.)
I always watch Odell’s projects for good tips I’ve definitely learned a lot from his videos and I use them in my business can’t go wrong with this guy he knows his stuff
Starting to think RUclips is reading my mind, was just talking an hour ago in the garden about this as our wood edging is all rotten, next thing this vid is on the home page! Excellent job and very helpful, thank you for posting, All the best from the UK. Subscribed!
This is exactly what i was looking for. Didn't realize it was called a mow strip. I'm looking for some pointers. I want to build a wood fence with this underneath connecting the posts together for the length of my fence. Yard is about 100x50. That way when i put my fence kick plate down, no animals can get underneath, or grass growing under the fence. My ground is very wet most of the year. I live in S. Louisiana, and it's a low area. I dont know how this would affect such a long, narrow stretch of concrete. Love you videos. Lots of great info.
I rarely take the time to leave any comments to videos,unless there really bad and can use some constructive criticism or if they are really good and want to thank them.....your videos are amazingly precise ... efficiently done ...easily understood...a wealth of knowledge...Thank you
I just have a couple of questions, because the curb is only 3.5" deep, do you have to use rebar? Also, the spacers that are used for the radius, did you leave those in there? Thanks!
So when building this type of mow strip you don;t need to compress screenings for the base or add rebar for strength? Is this true of all curbs mow strips?
I'm glad i found this video. I'm wanting to do something similar, but with a bit more depth and the concrete formed to run the lenth of a fence. My idea is I'm wanting to put up a privacy fence, and have concrete poured out inbetween each post in a similar fashion like you've done in this video to deter my dogs from digging out. Any suggestions on how deep and wide you'd recommend while taking considerations for times of the year when frost is prevelent?
Love watching your videos 🙏🏼 thank you .I used to work construction with my father and brothers as little kids . And my uncles Brady Bunch family .I miss those days👍👍up
@keith cunningham you still have all of that since theirs still concrete right next to the yard. and that can almost be completely alleviated with having the yard at the same height of the concrete. i never have scapling issues with my yard, all i need to to is edge the yard for a nice look but thats also completely optional.
Nope, not really, I do lawn service in Fl and some of my customers put this on their borders only to crack after a while because there's no rebar into the ground to keep them in place when a mower goes near them.
Are you the guy resting on the shovel? You'd be the type to say "we". Ive dug ditches with the best and we never said "we". Great instructional! Appreciated! 👍
Never heard of anyone using motor oil. Thats a first for me. No one crys about that staying in the soil? Looks good i like the smaller slabs with the rock around it.
im in the process of doing entire driveway my concrete guy wants to do the borders first than come a different day to pour the remaining slab and stamping it. Im skeptical of having different pours id prefer one pour for a stronger bond. what are the draw backs and should i go with different pours. whats your take on this dave???? pls help anyone should i fire and rehire someone else?
I am trying to figure out if you left the the one by two small cross braces in the bender board forms. I didn’t see any removed and I’m just curious. Thanks for sharing, I learned a lot and think I could do my own.
Nice job... I'm thinking of doing something similar on a smaller scale, I live in New your state, where we have pretty harsh winters... And advice on how deep I should go to prevent heaving from the frost? Thanks...
I hope we have someone in North Florida who does this nicely because I plan a moving border and (on another vid) a fence base. Tired of rotting bottoms on my wooden fences.
David, about this method of constructing a concrete mowing edge, There is no stabilization of the beam below ground level and it rests on top of the soil, albeit below lawn level on the lawn side. I presume that gravel chips/other material will be used to stabilize it from the other side, as the video concludes with the form work still in place? For any above soil level concrete beams, I would have installed at least one central 6mm rebar along the entire length of the edge and driven 10mm rebar rods into the soil to 20cm depth every 2.5m or so. This to prevent any possible cracking along the course. The cost would have been marginal but garanteed the product over 20 years. However, I still prefer a mowing edging constructed from face brick set on a 100mm concrete foundation of 25mpa. In this case the final edging is built on a concrete foundation set 10cm below soil level and does not require any reinforcing. After the foundation is floated, the bricks are simply positioned 'edge to edge' onto the foundation using a cement/water paste. This is incredibly strong and all one needs is a builders line for managing alignment. Once perfected, this method is very quick. It does not require the installation and de-installation of any form work and is far less labour intensive. For me, using a clay face brick is a far stronger and attractive solution and I have a personal dislike for painted contrete
Thank you very much for the video. Wish we could have seen the final product without the molding. Also I had a couple question. I noticed that some stakes were in the inside rather then outside as most of them were. Any particular reason? Other question was about towards the end of the video when you made a line every 4 feet or so to divide the sections. How deep did you go in with the tool ??? THANK YOU AGAIN !!!!
Just use virgin oil instead of harming the environment with motor oil. Please stop using motor oil! A single drop of used motor oil can contaminate a million drops of water.
Hey david, I am doing a 6" wide x 5" deep x 35' long strip between me and my neighbors yard. Do you recommend I cut down 1/2" or 1/4 plywood for the forms? Thanks in advance for your time
@assassinlexx As a big proponent of gravel underneath concrete, and other ideals, I really don't think this particular job needs anything special. Yeah maybe it'll crack in 20 years. I bet it won't crack before year 6 tho.
Good job, just did something similar but 8" wide, I'd be nervous with one this narrow, 6" might be a good compromise, I went 8" since I'll be joining up to an 8" retaining wall. Time to order up 240 bags of 60#, gonna be hurting after using my mixer that long. Cheers everyone, gotta love concrete work for us weekend warriors!
odell complete concrete We can't do curbing like that here in Maine, we have too many freeze/thaw cycles in the Winter. I wish we could, it's a great idea! Nice Video
Would a single rebar help to prevent cracking or push up in the future? I enjoy learning from your videos! Thanks for your effort and time producing them.
David, if you wanted to have lights inside the strip for an added effect. Would that A: comprise the concrete? B: have any recommendations or thoughts on how to do it? C: Have you done anything like that before?
I did this to planting areas on the front of my house. No wood to rot and replace, no plastic that breaks. 10 years on the concrete border and still looking good. I will use your radius corners method when I do the back yard, makes mowing so easy. I also used a better grade of bagged concrete as well, worth every buck. I also like the trick of cutting down the edger! Thanks for the info!
You guys put out some great material. I’ve learned so much from your videos. They’ve given me the confidence to tackle all my home landscaping projects; 10’x18’ shed concrete slab, 30’ CMU planter bed, curved retaining wall, driveway patch, sprinkler/sod installation, and more to come. The professional tips you provide on methods and tool selection have been so helpful in giving me long lasting results.
Great
Glad it helps
GL
I learn alot from Sir David as well,...he teaches people the DIYer's easy solutions that can be done without to much effort.!!! Thanks Again Sir David Odell
Well done 😄😃
Appreciate
I love that you guys put tarp on the driveway. Goes to show that you care about your work.
TY
as someone that likes concrete, and uses it in their work every once-in-a-while, I really like your commentary of why you are doing, or how you achieved your work. It helps in the work flow confidence in my future projects.
Ty
GL
Such a simple way to make a huge difference on your curb appeal. Nice job.
TY
Would have been nice to see the finished product with no forms and the rock fill in place.
Yes
@@OdellCompleteConcrete Thank you for sharing. its better to post with our without the end result than not to post.
I agree, I'm pissed watched specifically to see the end product with the landscaping all put back...whats the point of this? what does it look like finished? Thanks for wasting 10 minutes of my life Odell
@@nevetstrebornosredna could've shown nothing you ungrateful.... Person
Bob has a point and he's giving good feedback to Odell so ya'll need to relax.
I really appreciate the video. My wife and I want to do this between ours and the neighbor’s house and we’ve never done this. Hiring a company is hard because most have a minimum and a small job like this is not worth their time. You really explained it well.
TY
GL
I cant stop watching your vids..... plus the voice is magic
TY
Enjoy
did you ever finish it? be nice to see what it looked like.
No matter what you do, you do Superb Work.
ty
Expert craftsmanship and professional workmanship. Well done!
Ty
Im in Canada, thé winters are brutal and I honestly love you channel, I’ve been learning a lot and some of your technique have withstood our crazy winters
Thats surprising
TY
I'd hire you. Its the little things you do. The thoughtfulness you put into the jobs, that I've seen which make a difference to me. (tarp on the street, collars around pipes, type of concrete you use for each type of job, accommodating the homeowner's change request, etc.)
TY
I always watch Odell’s projects for good tips I’ve definitely learned a lot from his videos and I use them in my business can’t go wrong with this guy he knows his stuff
TY
Starting to think RUclips is reading my mind, was just talking an hour ago in the garden about this as our wood edging is all rotten, next thing this vid is on the home page! Excellent job and very helpful, thank you for posting, All the best from the UK. Subscribed!
maybe ALL the landscapers are thinking about edging/mow strips rn
That is awesome!
This is exactly what i was looking for. Didn't realize it was called a mow strip.
I'm looking for some pointers. I want to build a wood fence with this underneath connecting the posts together for the length of my fence. Yard is about 100x50. That way when i put my fence kick plate down, no animals can get underneath, or grass growing under the fence.
My ground is very wet most of the year. I live in S. Louisiana, and it's a low area. I dont know how this would affect such a long, narrow stretch of concrete.
Love you videos. Lots of great info.
landscapers call it curbing lol
Make it 6"s deep and 18 to 24" at the post
@@OdellCompleteConcrete thank you for your quick reply. Exactly what I was looking for!
Very nice! The quality of work you and your team do is exemplary, thanks for another great video.
YW
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Thank you for your time and thank you from the south of mexico !! Blessings
YW
TY
Thanks I should have known the best video for the concrete thing I was looking for was Odell
Good point
TY
Nice job! Love the curves!
Thank you! Cheers!
I rarely take the time to leave any comments to videos,unless there really bad and can use some constructive criticism or if they are really good and want to thank them.....your videos are amazingly precise ... efficiently done ...easily understood...a wealth of knowledge...Thank you
TY
I just have a couple of questions, because the curb is only 3.5" deep, do you have to use rebar? Also, the spacers that are used for the radius, did you leave those in there? Thanks!
Done like a REAL PRO.
TY
Love it! Thanks for the recommendation on the mix.
Our pleasure!
5:01 the sign of a true artisan is that they create their own tools to perfect their trade
TY
Good job! It's satisfying to see a PROfessional do an outstanding job. It's even up to my standards. LOL
TY
So when building this type of mow strip you don;t need to compress screenings for the base or add rebar for strength? Is this true of all curbs mow strips?
Depends on the surroundings
Can you elaborate on that? Do you mean on the environment freeze/thaw cycles etc.?
Why do you bother answering if you don't give any relevant information?
What is the difference between laying down that border by hand, as opposed to a mow curb installed with a machine? Thx
One has rock in the mix and one has sand.
I'm so glad RUclips recommended this to me...Amazing work!
Thank you very much!
I hate plastic lawn edging. Never crossed my mind to use concrete, this is a very cool idea.
Solid
I'm glad i found this video. I'm wanting to do something similar, but with a bit more depth and the concrete formed to run the lenth of a fence. My idea is I'm wanting to put up a privacy fence, and have concrete poured out inbetween each post in a similar fashion like you've done in this video to deter my dogs from digging out. Any suggestions on how deep and wide you'd recommend while taking considerations for times of the year when frost is prevelent?
2' deep 1' wide
Hello. What product is it you used. Bend a board? What thickness. Thanks for help.
Home Depot has it
Love watching your videos 🙏🏼 thank you .I used to work construction with my father and brothers as little kids . And my uncles Brady Bunch family .I miss those days👍👍up
SOunds like fun
Wow brilliant job 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Many many thanks
Excellent 👌 Job man. Good 👍 Job
Ty
What kind of material did you use for the radius
That's nice. I like the space between.
Me too
This is what I did to my lawn makes mowing so much easier and it looks good as well.
i agree!
I don’t see how it makes it easier to mow
I concur
@keith cunningham you still have all of that since theirs still concrete right next to the yard. and that can almost be completely alleviated with having the yard at the same height of the concrete. i never have scapling issues with my yard, all i need to to is edge the yard for a nice look but thats also completely optional.
Nope, not really, I do lawn service in Fl and some of my customers put this on their borders only to crack after a while because there's no rebar into the ground to keep them in place when a mower goes near them.
It is a very nice looking piece of work but will it not get caught by te lawnmower .
NO
Are you the guy resting on the shovel? You'd be the type to say "we". Ive dug ditches with the best and we never said "we". Great instructional! Appreciated! 👍
probably not but its possible
Beautiful job! As usual.
I had Bermuda grass.
Ground Clear got rid of it! 😀🍾
Awesome
🤩😶😍🤩😋🤣😗😗😏🤗😚😎
Nice work men. Also like the ole chisel and level trick for your joints!
TY
Thanks for the video, think this will work for a spot on my yard👍🏻 9 minute video, told my wife to give me 20 since I don't do this everyday 😉 😅😂
Makes sense
Never heard of anyone using motor oil. Thats a first for me. No one crys about that staying in the soil? Looks good i like the smaller slabs with the rock around it.
No worries, its a good way to use your resources
im in the process of doing entire driveway my concrete guy wants to do the borders first than come a different day to pour the remaining slab and stamping it. Im skeptical of having different pours id prefer one pour for a stronger bond. what are the draw backs and should i go with different pours. whats your take on this dave???? pls help anyone should i fire and rehire someone else?
As long as its all dowelled in, should be good.
Do you recall what size those square concrete pavers the homeowner had in place, they look way bigger than 24” x 24”
Thanks - your stuff is the best
4 x 4
How far into the ground do you have to dig to build a concrete mow strip? Any rebar needed? Thanks
4" should work.
@@OdellCompleteConcrete Thanks
I’ve been appreciating your videos. Great attention to detail. Just subscribed. 👍
TY
Thanks man I learn something every time or every video
Glad to hear it
Did I miss it or was rebar used?
I am trying to figure out if you left the the one by two small cross braces in the bender board forms. I didn’t see any removed and I’m just curious. Thanks for sharing, I learned a lot and think I could do my own.
It happens fast
Nice job... I'm thinking of doing something similar on a smaller scale, I live in New your state, where we have pretty harsh winters... And advice on how deep I should go to prevent heaving from the frost? Thanks...
check with your local building department
I hope we have someone in North Florida who does this nicely because I plan a moving border and (on another vid) a fence base. Tired of rotting bottoms on my wooden fences.
The way to go for sure
David, about this method of constructing a concrete mowing edge,
There is no stabilization of the beam below ground level and it rests on top of the soil, albeit below lawn level on the lawn side.
I presume that gravel chips/other material will be used to stabilize it from the other side, as the video concludes with the form work still in place?
For any above soil level concrete beams, I would have installed at least one central 6mm rebar along the entire length of the edge and driven 10mm rebar rods into the soil to 20cm depth every 2.5m or so. This to prevent any possible cracking along the course. The cost would have been marginal but garanteed the product over 20 years.
However, I still prefer a mowing edging constructed from face brick set on a 100mm concrete foundation of 25mpa. In this case the final edging is built on a concrete foundation set 10cm below soil level and does not require any reinforcing.
After the foundation is floated, the bricks are simply positioned 'edge to edge' onto the foundation using a cement/water paste. This is incredibly strong and all one needs is a builders line for managing alignment.
Once perfected, this method is very quick. It does not require the installation and de-installation of any form work and is far less labour intensive.
For me, using a clay face brick is a far stronger and attractive solution and I have a personal dislike for painted contrete
Thank you very much for the video. Wish we could have seen the final product without the molding. Also I had a couple question. I noticed that some stakes were in the inside rather then outside as most of them were. Any particular reason? Other question was about towards the end of the video when you made a line every 4 feet or so to divide the sections. How deep did you go in with the tool ??? THANK YOU AGAIN !!!!
1/2" deep.
The inside stakes came out while the concrete was wet.
Thank you very much !!!!!!!!!!
Wow! Very impressive work. Well done.
TY
What is the oil used for?
Thanks for the tip with the motor oil. I'll try to be careful to not get it on the grass. I hope the tip I have for my garden sprayer works OK.
Sure GL
Just use virgin oil instead of harming the environment with motor oil. Please stop using motor oil! A single drop of used motor oil
can contaminate a million
drops of water.
@@Amok2806 You are right. I did some research, and silicone spray will also work. Very easy to control.
Hey david,
I am doing a 6" wide x 5" deep x 35' long strip between me and my neighbors yard. Do you recommend I cut down 1/2" or 1/4 plywood for the forms?
Thanks in advance for your time
1 x 6
Your a concrete craftsman 😀 Great videos.
TY
I just subscribed. Excellent work. Two thumbs wayyy up.
ty
No Rebar? Or did I miss it? Your thoughts on it pls. Thanks. Looks great BTW!
I love it!
@@OdellCompleteConcrete So, there is no rebar???
What was the distance between the large concrete pads??? 4" 6" ?????
5"s
I wonder how many years before it cracks and deforms. Especially being in a frost line area.
I just removed the one I had in my yard.
This is Southern CA.
@assassinlexx As a big proponent of gravel underneath concrete, and other ideals, I really don't think this particular job needs anything special. Yeah maybe it'll crack in 20 years. I bet it won't crack before year 6 tho.
@@OdellCompleteConcrete Probably cracked in 6 months.
So for all of you that are saying its going to crack tell us how you would of done it
Oil ! Thanks for the tip man , great work. 🇦🇺
YW
You guys do really nice work but those strips and gaps with rock in them that the customer wanted looks lame.
Custom
3:28 I asked in another video, but could Olive oil be used here?
Yes
You’re funny, why would you spend big dollars for perfectly good olive oil when any old used oil works perfectly.
@@garrynorth6199 don’t have an ICE vehicle, but now that you mention it I could get some from my neighbor.
Do you use a laser to grade a long mow strip job, or do you just eyeball it? Looks Great!!
Eyeball
If I learned anything from this video, it is that I now want to go see a concrete mow strip in action. Also, I guess I learned how to make one too.
Get it on
OSS
Do you have video of making the large stepping stones in the beginning?
could you give a ballpark time of how long until you can take forms off the curbing to do the finish trowel work (1 to 4 hours later?)
We just finish the top.
The forms can come off anytime
Good job, just did something similar but 8" wide, I'd be nervous with one this narrow, 6" might be a good compromise, I went 8" since I'll be joining up to an 8" retaining wall. Time to order up 240 bags of 60#, gonna be hurting after using my mixer that long. Cheers everyone, gotta love concrete work for us weekend warriors!
Get it on
GL
What do you use to make the curved form? A piece of 10 feet flexible curved siding at lowe's cost 25 bucks. Seems very high no?
Landscape border
@@OdellCompleteConcrete Is landscape border cheaper than using 1/4in plywood?
Did you put untreated spacer blocks in the bottom of the form? Wouldn't that create a termite problem for the homeowner down the road potentially?
Spacers come out when concrete is going in.
Nice thank you. I am from Fiji lsland Labasa
YW
I died laughing when you said Mobil one synthetic.
It works like a charm
Some people buy form oil to make stripping the forms easy. Diesel will work just as good, put it in a pump sprayer
How much did the diy version cost?
350.00
@@OdellCompleteConcrete Thanks
Ha. Been telling my wife for 28 years we should have done this to out midwest yard. Moving to the southwest now so it doesn't matter. Guess she won !
never to late
odell complete concrete We can't do curbing like that here in Maine, we have too many freeze/thaw cycles in the Winter. I wish we could, it's a great idea! Nice Video
TY
What material are you using for the bending forms? looks nice and easy to work with!
Masonite
TY
So you don't need to put rebar in it? Maybe that's a cold climate need?
The dirt keeps it in place unless you have big trees around
@@OdellCompleteConcrete Here in the Northeast if you don't put rebar in the cement, it will crack when the ground freezes.
What you do with concrete is quality UK
Sure
how much does a job like that cost? also you didn't use rebar? Are you supposed to for moe strips?
No trees no problem
Would this help water from coming thru
No, but is does block the grass
Would you ever consider doing a truck setup walk around?
yes that would be fun
I don’t think I saw you adding rebar for strength. Is it not needed?
not really unless you have big trees in the area
@@OdellCompleteConcrete Thanks for the reply and advice.
YW
Stud
Would a single rebar help to prevent cracking or push up in the future? I enjoy learning from your videos! Thanks for your effort and time producing them.
Steel would rust in the narrow area. Fiberglass rebar would work though
The Sustainable Texan Yea , some #3 or pencil rod would help keep it together . Nice curb.
Does a "mow strip" like this in the video require any chicken wire or substitute for re-bar?
no
Nice work👍🏻👍🏻
TY
This looks really good
TY
Looks great, the whole project is creative and different. Nice job!
Thanks a bunch!
Great to watch the process. Would you recommend this project before or after a lawn leveling project plus a big tree/stump removal??
Before is best
Odell Complete Concrete thank you
what is brand of concrete mix your using? where is it available in So. Ca.
Home depot special
very nice. Im fixing to do something like that to my 2 trees that i have
GL
How long would you leave the boxing/forms on for?
24 hours
David, if you wanted to have lights inside the strip for an added effect. Would that A: comprise the concrete? B: have any recommendations or thoughts on how to do it? C: Have you done anything like that before?
The Owner put ground lights in the gravel
Anyone know where the video of the concrete slabs with the stones between them is?
Looks good thanks for sharing
YW
TY
Looks good !
TY