Great video. I’ve just started experimenting with 3D scanning. Currently I have only used iPhone 11, no spray no other type of accessories. I can get good scans of simple objects, but I can’t achieve the same quality of things I really want to scan, which is an Air Source Heat Pump. It has a flat metal shiny surface most of the way round plus over complex textures and depths. Any chance you have a scanned something like this?
For your markers you could get some of that flexible magnet material used on fridge magnets, cut into little squares or use a leather hole punch to make them circular, then stick the markers to them. Gives resuable markers that are easy to remove and not too much post processing if the marker covers the magnet.
I recently bought my first scanner, a cr-scan ferret and I was a bit concerned because I had seen lots of people down on creality but for what I paid (250$ NIB) I'm incredibly impressed. I was able to scan a fender with no prep in 5-10 minutes easily, I've designed a mount for an oil cooler thanks to it, and other things. It's had issues on repeating surfaces like the BMW had here but overall very useful, you could definitely design something like a wide body kit using it. Creality really needs better project management and import/export for projects though because they are actually portable. I scan on my relatively low-end 2016 era laptop and then transfer the scans to a desktop for post processing. The trick is you have to find the project in the software's files which is anything but convenient.
Great video! Please do the inside of the engine bay in future videos. I am particularly interested in performance in the dark areas eg. the gap between the engine and the body where a turbo manifold would be. Thank you
Also when you're scanning.. if you click on the drop down in the top left scanning window, you can flip the scanning image to the left or right by 90º increments... since you like holding the scanner vertically, you should rotate the image to match
For me it would be very interessting for body parts comparison. For example a repaired crashed chassis with a new one. So you can check if the repair was successfully or you need to tweak it a little bit more. Nice Video, keep it up!
Cool to see some developments in the consumer scanner market, it’s been a while! Also great the otter seems to be a lot less resource intensive than the Einstar, which is one of its biggest flaws. 👍 looking forward to the raptor review!
Got an Otter my self. Using a laptop that uses a desktop CPU I9-10850k , 32gb ram, RTX 3080. Have no performance latency at all with the scanner. I am actually happy with it and decided to get one after watching your review. Hope Creality gives there software package a little bit more love but I actually dont mind it one bit. gets me enough data to work with and im happy with it. Aside from that Love the videos they are very informative and educational. Thanks a ton!
Really interesting video. The scanner looks capable and it's interesting the software is being actively developed. My problem would be more with Creality as a company. I purchased a CR Lizard, which turned it to be an absolute debacle. I think even if the einstar and otter were identical in performance, I wouldn't trust Creality to provide product support, especially at the 'prosumer' price point
I would like to see you scan some objects with much finer detail to see what its limits are, perhaps try things with repeating patterns like lattices etc
Great video, it is amazing to me that there are now a couple of sub 1k scanners that are indeed viable tools that can actually be used to do actual work, not just some gimmick. I like your videos too, you are quite funny!
I’ve been eyeing off a scanner for a while but holding off as the benefits of models has been in a specific area. This Otter seems like a significant jump at the price point. Not sure my 2014 MacBook Pro could handle it? Loving the scanning content. Great reviews with just the right amount of tech detail. Well played sir.
It’s likely that it could handle the point cloud data if it’s a reasonably fast Quad Core from that era. RAM is typically the limiting factor as to whether you can work with capturing point clouds of varying sizes/densities. You can end up with millions of points in no time, so the physical size and detail of your object could be make or break. The post-processing doesn’t need to be able to be done in realtime, but if his new machine took 160 seconds for that little model, you may be waiting a dog’s age for it to process. You would need the extra cable to power it, as the laptop from that era wouldn’t have the chooch that you need. A simple USB power bank could be used if you needed portability. The biggest concern would be making sure that compatible software is available for your OS. With all of that said, a $600 PC-Based laptop of today would make light work of this thing, but if you’ll reply with your specs (processor, RAM, VRAM, size of your SSD or HDD), we can give you a better answer.
Awesome info in all of these videos! Do you think the Otter would be good choice for scanning various tools found in a workbench to make nice-fitting printed/foam molds for them?
I love your videos, and bought an Einstar using your review as a reference. I watch another RUclipsr who does some good work and design etc. SuperfastMatt. Maybe not as many reviews, but has worked with 3D scanners, but he did mention using a combination of alcohol and baby powder in place of the sublimation spray (Obviously only on things that can be washed off afterwards). But may end up a bit cheaper than the spray for large areas. Really enjoyed the review. Thanks for the great vid!
Great video, thank you, subscribed! I am only just now peeking in to the 3D scanner world. I am a long time CAD user, primarily with Solidworks. I want to scan a ginormous cargo van inside and out for the purpose of building an accurate, detailed, and robust parametric model using the scanned data. I will then use that to design bolt-in modular interiors and other accessories, mostly utilitarian and moto oriented (a toilet in the car is NOT my thing..). 3D scanners appear to be absolutely amazing and reasonably affordable to the hobbyist these days. If you have any words of wisdom or guidance to offer a complete newb I would be very grateful! Cheers!
It looks really promissing and it addresses couple of the Einstar's issues - scanning of small stuff and not needing a power brick. Looking forward to see the Raptor.
Got the Raptor yesterday. Had problems with my USB3.0 but had a second pci usb 3.0 card here and now it’s good. I would say it’s not the final and only scanner you need but i can scan a black Xbox controller without prepping it. You need to watch for the correct exposure to not get a lot of noise. It’s probably the best scanner for small to medium objects on the market. I’m looking forward for your review on the Raptor :) Edit: Still looking how to get best scan quality. A electric turntable is helping g a lot to make the scan smooth.
I have 3 Revopoint scanner along with the CR Ferret I purchased at launch. The only issue I have with the Ferret is that Creality’s false advertisement of that this career was a duel mode scanner that can scan small to large object. I’m not a metric system expert so the MM range is really only for medium to large items. The positives with my Ferret is it is much more forgiving than my Revopoint scanner when it comes to rescanning an area or when loss tracking is re established. It can also scan black objects, which again Revopoint scanners struggle unless you use dark mode. I was in the process of investing in the Miraco scanner for Revopoint until I saw this Otter scanner which is advertised as a do it all scanner. unlike its predecessor also this new Cr scan ferret upgraded software is much better, I will now probably add the Otter to. my collection of 3D scanners.
@MakingforMotorsport make an accuracy test as well, to make it you need to have 100mm something, scan it then convert it to mesh and measure that it has also 100.0X mm to see what exactly Creality sell us.
I’ve been using Mesh Inspector lately and am enjoying it. It’s fast and has loads of tools. It can even align and merge scans. I have the Raptor and it’s incredible. I’m interested in your take and if I should add an Otter to the collection even though I have the Raptor.
The Otter has the better NIR. Means: everything that prevents you from using the blue laser mode will be worse on the raptor. But to be honest I doubt it will be enough to buy another scanner.
I owned A revo mini and sold it right away for an Einstar. The software is the biggest crippling factor for scanners. I want to like this scanner and try it out but I’ve heard plenty of bad reviews of past creality scanners
I’ve had both the Scan01 and the Lizard and I found them both better than many people said. But you’re 100% right, software is key and they’ve never quite nailed that…
Excellent video ! I own an Einstar Shining 3D scanner. The Creality otter seems promising. It seems able to scan small and medium objects while the Einstar doesn't perform well on small objects. Question: where did you get the 3D model for the hemisphere target where you stuck reflective dots ?
Just got a raptor at work and wow! Absolutely smashed it out the park. Makes my old revopoint pop2 look like a 15 year old smartphone!! The otter does look impressive also and think creality have done a very good job on these new generation scanners.
With the Raptor, can you also 3D scan an item, build something quick in CAD, 3D print it and test it on what was scanned, as I want to get a scanner to make a gearbox adaptor plate for a mate but need to be sure before I drop a grand on a flashing brick 😂
Thank you for your videos on scanners and can not wait for the Raptor model. I wonder if you would do a video comparing just the software from Shining 3D and Creality? I have watched some videos and read some reviews of Creality software that have scare me offf until your video. I am waiting to do motorsport stuff too. I have a Lola Sport 2000 that I want to update and modify.
I put the whole scanning process on there for that reason, so people can see. The truth is the software is functional and does a job. But lacks the advanced features. The Otter will work even with the current software, but you’ll have an extra step or two in your workflow compared to the Einstar…
When designing a racecar, scrutineers ask for printouts and models to assess the design, the Vegeta poseable toy offers the most articulating torso and limbs. It has a nice scaling at 0.08 (nice for cad) or 12.5. The head needed a helmet print, the torso needs 5mm extending in the midrif.
I always wondered about this. Is there something special about the reflectivity of official markers or the scanner/software is specifically designed to pick up the size and shape of markers. I often wondered if just regular stickers would do the same job, and I havnt come across the info anywhere.
Thanks heaps mate. This was awesome! Did your laptop use up the full 64gb ram when scanning and processing the car? I’m deciding on a new laptop with 32gb of ram. Cheers!
You should try the Shaper origin stickers on the texture alignment in the new Einscan EXSTAR Software. It’s amazing. I will never use refective dots again.
nice review, have a peel 3, just pulled the trigger on the raptor for small stuff, arriving in a couple of days, fingers crossed it is as good as some vids i have seen, looking forward to your review :)
@@deanclements1839 if, and i do, have a choice, definitely use the peel for something like a car, not so much for scan quality, but rather for the software, peels is much more stable and better for something like a car, only my opinion :)
I have been looking forward to an independent review for this. I purchased the CR-Scan Lizard a couple of years ago and, good as it is for Hobbyist use, it doesn't quite fulfill use cases for Small Business. Within 12 to 18 months, this should be much more affordable as well. What I would like to see is, perhaps, a "hub" accessory (portable storage and battery) so you can scan objects without a laptop, before uploading these to the software for the next step.
I've had the Otter for a few weeks and have scanned intake manifolds, turbo housings & engine shortblocks. I've had my fair share of aggravation getting quality scans. That aggravation has since been quelled from experience. Not sure how it compares to a $15-30k scanner but so far I've gotten great meshes to pull data from and has simplified my CAD time. The only thing I have yet to do is make a part to verify that it's dimensionally accurate but that's coming. I've learned to process the mesh at the highest quality that the software will allow and still export in .stl
@@El.patch.o Have you tried the Einstar for this sort of stuff? It feels like the Einscan software should be better than whatever Creality can cook up.
@mtasapl I'm sure that the Einstar software is better. I went with the Otter due to the system requirements. With the Einstar, I would have had to buy a brand new CPU. The CR scanner works with both my laptop ( 12gen i5) & my desktop (8gen i7). Both have 32G RAM and the desktop has a Quadro graphics card. If Creality can continue to improve the software, it could probably be a real in the 3D scanning world. It's not bad now, just clunky, in my opinion.
Great video. I'm curious about 3D scanning people. I have a Range, which is pathetic, and I prefer using the Kinect I have, but it's showing its age now. What scanner for under £1000 would you recommend to scan people?
Thanks for the great review, I have been holding off getting the Einstar because I know that I would have to also upgrade my laptop for it to work. I was looking at the range 2 and also the ferret pro, but they were not convincing enough for me for what I want to do (flat curvy surfaces similar to car body panels) Seems like the otter could have been worth the wait. From your video I'm presuming you would choose the otter over the ferret pro or range 2 for panel scanning? How is the software for joining 2 scans together for example joining side A and side B (top and bottom scans) into one scanned image, can it do it?
I’ve not tried the Ferret Pro or Range 2 so can’t comment on them, but the Otter would work, to a similar standard as the Einstar. The difference is you might end up having to use other software for the joins, as this is a weak point for Creality where the Einstar has no problem. The software is out there and it’s free. Just needs abit of homework to work it out tho
@ 00:01 bruh, isn't that a beaver? I'm not the kind of guy that gets down on otter. but trust me, I know me some bBeaver. Might want to recheck your clipart homie.
For the buttons on the back of the Otter, I felt like I was struggling a lot when pressing them. Customer support wasn\'t very helpful in resolving the issue, which was so disappointing that I had to return it.
Good review but like almost anyone on YT review it's not enough showing towards software nor how it is for retro-engineering a part (eg. Scan to CAD/SW or Fusion360 or similar). The hardware is becoming very good nowadays but software makes alot of difference . IMO, most people want to use a 3D scanner for CAD and retro-engineering something.
The Reverse Engineering is a total different subject and completely seperate from the type of scanner you use to get the .stl (you could use Photogrammetry for example). Check out my Reverse Engineering video with Fusion360 for a detailed how to on that… ruclips.net/video/imGrla3b3Mo/видео.htmlsi=TK6icb538FVHys3I
@@MakingforMotorsport Not really. The software used with the scanner can make alot of difference to ensure a good transition from surfaces scanned and being more "ready" in the CAD software
Plus minus 0.1mm I would expect, maybe slightly less with a good technique.. so 4thou… Much less than the slop on bolts, good enough for dowels… not so much
Just picked up an otter after watching your review! After a couple scans, I’m having a hard time getting a clean scan of a Porsche Cayman Front bumper. I’m using large scan, fast. Maybe I need high quality? I am looking rough measurements. I am finding that there are artifacts, missing information right in the middle of what looks to be complete scanned area. Do I need aesub? Markers? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
I only ever used high quality so can’t comment on fast mode, but scanning something like a bumper, I’d try the following…. Use geometry tracking mode and place a scrumpled towel in front on the floor and on the bonnet to produce additional tracking info. Use texture mode with masking tape on the bumper to provide clear colour edges to track off But overall, I’d really advise you start smaller then go up from there, scanning (regardless what type of scanner) isn’t just holding the scanner, it is a skill and it takes development and practise… There will be movements I make to maximise tracking now without even thinking about it.
It’s a good idea that I have seen before, but my take you need to be able to scan underneath them for the standoff to be an advantage. And for that that they’d need a hell of a stand off!
When your Raptor review will go online? I got mine and i have lot of USB3 detection issues, tried with different PCs and usb3-hub without success. Would be interesting if you phased something similar.
Just putting the video together now. Hoping for next week. When I first received it I had no detection at all, I had a new cable sent out by Creality and since then it’s worked faultlessly.
Many thanks for your reply! Creality support will also send me new USB cable and based on your feedback i have some hope it will fix the issue. On FB some more uers reported to get new USB cable as well. Looking forward to your video about the raptor.
Which scanner would you buy if you're scanning car interiors and making parts to form-fit into corners of the dash and other places of the car, such as speaker pods, etc?
@@MakingforMotorsport love your videos, when do you think this comparison will be out? Trying to decide on a scanner for scanning suspension pivot points and making upgraded spindles, upper control arms
After the CR scan lizard, I'd never touch a creality scanner again. The software is truly awful. The Einstar software seems industry standard and creality's seems very low end hobbyist. It would have been interesting to see the dimensional results in your comparison table though! The Raptor review will be interesting.
I get you, the Creality Lizard software wasn’t great, but CR-studio made it much better. This software is totally functional, it just misses some extra steps that the Einstar smashes…
Nice test! Question; are you able to run the scan on a laptop and then store it and run the postprocessing of the pointcloud on a (beefier) desktop pc, or does the 'scanner tied software' also mean you can only run it at the computer you're scanning with?
There is no obvious way to export a project as a whole on the software, but I’m sure if you dug around in the file structure you could move what you need to manually…
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The links are currently broken. I get a "This site can’t be reached. The connection was reset." error.
@macrobionic oh shit! Thanks for saying… let me check
I had a check and the links all work for me
Is there a link for the printable 3d targets
Great video. I’ve just started experimenting with 3D scanning. Currently I have only used iPhone 11, no spray no other type of accessories. I can get good scans of simple objects, but I can’t achieve the same quality of things I really want to scan, which is an Air Source Heat Pump. It has a flat metal shiny surface most of the way round plus over complex textures and depths. Any chance you have a scanned something like this?
"Let's see if this Otter can make a splash". Bro, it was right there.
That’s pretty good… better than lots of OTTER comments! (It’s all I got!)
Beavers splash more than otters
I am really curios to see if a full car body scan is possible. Can you try in the next video. Thanks for all the awesome videos.
I was about to ask this but saw your comment. Yes, please show us stitching together scans to do a full car please!
For your markers you could get some of that flexible magnet material used on fridge magnets, cut into little squares or use a leather hole punch to make them circular, then stick the markers to them. Gives resuable markers that are easy to remove and not too much post processing if the marker covers the magnet.
I get you, Big Dave from DC3D has done the same as you… I also know how long he spent doing it them 😂
I recently bought my first scanner, a cr-scan ferret and I was a bit concerned because I had seen lots of people down on creality but for what I paid (250$ NIB) I'm incredibly impressed. I was able to scan a fender with no prep in 5-10 minutes easily, I've designed a mount for an oil cooler thanks to it, and other things. It's had issues on repeating surfaces like the BMW had here but overall very useful, you could definitely design something like a wide body kit using it. Creality really needs better project management and import/export for projects though because they are actually portable. I scan on my relatively low-end 2016 era laptop and then transfer the scans to a desktop for post processing. The trick is you have to find the project in the software's files which is anything but convenient.
Great video! Please do the inside of the engine bay in future videos. I am particularly interested in performance in the dark areas eg. the gap between the engine and the body where a turbo manifold would be. Thank you
excitedly waiting for the raptor review. Between the Otter, Einstar, and Raptor for farm/motorsport work (home/hobby)
Thanks for the great video!
No problem buddy, it’s all coming soon I promise!
Also when you're scanning.. if you click on the drop down in the top left scanning window, you can flip the scanning image to the left or right by 90º increments... since you like holding the scanner vertically, you should rotate the image to match
Giving you an owl with a product called the otter is such a creality move
For me it would be very interessting for body parts comparison. For example a repaired crashed chassis with a new one. So you can check if the repair was successfully or you need to tweak it a little bit more.
Nice Video, keep it up!
Cool to see some developments in the consumer scanner market, it’s been a while! Also great the otter seems to be a lot less resource intensive than the Einstar, which is one of its biggest flaws. 👍 looking forward to the raptor review!
The price difference and the need for a powerful laptop is what made me go for the Revopoint Range instead of the Einstar
How did the range go for you? What type of stuff are you scanning? Range or range 2?@@FutureProofPerformance
Your mention of the Raptor sent me off researching and after an entire day, I bought one. Love your videos, though they affect my willpower..
Great review look forward to the Raptor vid! Do a large statue and engine parts!
Got an Otter my self. Using a laptop that uses a desktop CPU I9-10850k , 32gb ram, RTX 3080. Have no performance latency at all with the scanner. I am actually happy with it and decided to get one after watching your review. Hope Creality gives there software package a little bit more love but I actually dont mind it one bit. gets me enough data to work with and im happy with it. Aside from that Love the videos they are very informative and educational. Thanks a ton!
Rich Kid 💸💸🤑
Really interesting video. The scanner looks capable and it's interesting the software is being actively developed. My problem would be more with Creality as a company. I purchased a CR Lizard, which turned it to be an absolute debacle.
I think even if the einstar and otter were identical in performance, I wouldn't trust Creality to provide product support, especially at the 'prosumer' price point
I would like to see you scan some objects with much finer detail to see what its limits are, perhaps try things with repeating patterns like lattices etc
I'm amazed... I have been under the impression that anything that Creality makes was pretty much garbage! You have changed my mind.
Creality does not make them. They are made by another company that makes the moose
Scan that bass guitar I noticed while scanning the room.
Keep the rock alive Garth!
Great video, it is amazing to me that there are now a couple of sub 1k scanners that are indeed viable tools that can actually be used to do actual work, not just some gimmick. I like your videos too, you are quite funny!
Thank you very much, working on the next video now! 👍
Nice Video! I just got my Otter yesterday and was hoping it held up to the hype.
It’s a good little piece of kit… enjoy!
How did it work for you? Would you recommend?
I somehow missed your last two uploads! Gonna fix that. I am looking at 3D scanners though, so time to absorb this first.
20:00 I was waiting for this. I just sold my einstar and want an upgrade. I haven't don't much research in budget scanners for a while
I’ve been eyeing off a scanner for a while but holding off as the benefits of models has been in a specific area. This Otter seems like a significant jump at the price point. Not sure my 2014 MacBook Pro could handle it? Loving the scanning content. Great reviews with just the right amount of tech detail. Well played sir.
It’s likely that it could handle the point cloud data if it’s a reasonably fast Quad Core from that era. RAM is typically the limiting factor as to whether you can work with capturing point clouds of varying sizes/densities. You can end up with millions of points in no time, so the physical size and detail of your object could be make or break.
The post-processing doesn’t need to be able to be done in realtime, but if his new machine took 160 seconds for that little model, you may be waiting a dog’s age for it to process.
You would need the extra cable to power it, as the laptop from that era wouldn’t have the chooch that you need. A simple USB power bank could be used if you needed portability.
The biggest concern would be making sure that compatible software is available for your OS.
With all of that said, a $600 PC-Based laptop of today would make light work of this thing, but if you’ll reply with your specs (processor, RAM, VRAM, size of your SSD or HDD), we can give you a better answer.
@@grumpysteelman thanks mate. I maxed out RAM at the time of purchase so it’s a not too shabby 16GB.
i ordered one for work to save on modeling time. cant wait to try it out.
How did it work for you?
Awesome info in all of these videos! Do you think the Otter would be good choice for scanning various tools found in a workbench to make nice-fitting printed/foam molds for them?
I love your videos, and bought an Einstar using your review as a reference. I watch another RUclipsr who does some good work and design etc. SuperfastMatt. Maybe not as many reviews, but has worked with 3D scanners, but he did mention using a combination of alcohol and baby powder in place of the sublimation spray (Obviously only on things that can be washed off afterwards). But may end up a bit cheaper than the spray for large areas. Really enjoyed the review. Thanks for the great vid!
Great video, thank you, subscribed! I am only just now peeking in to the 3D scanner world. I am a long time CAD user, primarily with Solidworks. I want to scan a ginormous cargo van inside and out for the purpose of building an accurate, detailed, and robust parametric model using the scanned data. I will then use that to design bolt-in modular interiors and other accessories, mostly utilitarian and moto oriented (a toilet in the car is NOT my thing..). 3D scanners appear to be absolutely amazing and reasonably affordable to the hobbyist these days. If you have any words of wisdom or guidance to offer a complete newb I would be very grateful! Cheers!
Wow thats a pretty impressive scanner, cant wait for the next vid
Is it me or did creality spell their own name wrong in their documentation at minute marker 17:35?
Another great video! I'm checking out prices now...
woah dude that large scan at 21:15 is worth the price of admission
Very Interesting. Looking forward to the Raptor review.
Please show some postprocessing to remove the marker thingys❤
Great vid, very useful little tool. Also, your editing has improved a lot since the start - will follow with excitement!
It looks really promissing and it addresses couple of the Einstar's issues - scanning of small stuff and not needing a power brick. Looking forward to see the Raptor.
Exactly… a couple of distinct advantages…
Almost time for me to grab one, great review keep it up
Wow, that really looks fantastic! Thanks, great review 👍🏻
Thanks for watching!
Got the Raptor yesterday. Had problems with my USB3.0 but had a second pci usb 3.0 card here and now it’s good.
I would say it’s not the final and only scanner you need but i can scan a black Xbox controller without prepping it. You need to watch for the correct exposure to not get a lot of noise.
It’s probably the best scanner for small to medium objects on the market.
I’m looking forward for your review on the Raptor :)
Edit: Still looking how to get best scan quality. A electric turntable is helping g a lot to make the scan smooth.
The Raptor is a decent piece of kit… not perfect, but very good
Excellent! I currently have a raptor and am wondering if I should downgrade to the otter and what I'd be missing if I did. Thank you!
Don't. I have a friend who has compared both and the raptor comes out on top.
Love the mini btw, my dream car since i first saw the original italian job
I have 3 Revopoint scanner along with
the CR Ferret I purchased at launch.
The only issue I have with the Ferret
is that Creality’s false advertisement
of that this career was a duel mode
scanner that can scan small to large
object. I’m not a metric system expert
so the MM range is really only
for medium to large items.
The positives with my Ferret is it
is much more forgiving than my
Revopoint scanner when it comes to
rescanning an area or when loss
tracking is re established. It can
also scan black objects, which
again Revopoint scanners struggle
unless you use dark mode.
I was in the process of investing in
the Miraco scanner for Revopoint until
I saw this Otter scanner which is
advertised as a do it all scanner.
unlike its predecessor also this new
Cr scan ferret upgraded software is
much better, I will now probably add
the Otter to. my collection of 3D scanners.
Einstar or Otter?
Thanks for the video! Will be waiting for the Raptor for a review!!!!
Should be out next week… finished up the last scan for the video (15 in total!!!) last night
@MakingforMotorsport make an accuracy test as well, to make it you need to have 100mm something, scan it then convert it to mesh and measure that it has also 100.0X mm to see what exactly Creality sell us.
I’ve been using Mesh Inspector lately and am enjoying it. It’s fast and has loads of tools. It can even align and merge scans.
I have the Raptor and it’s incredible. I’m interested in your take and if I should add an Otter to the collection even though I have the Raptor.
The Otter has the better NIR. Means: everything that prevents you from using the blue laser mode will be worse on the raptor. But to be honest I doubt it will be enough to buy another scanner.
Could you try to get ahold of the Revopoint Miraco Pro? I‘m currently using the Einstar and that whole in one package sounds super amazing.
Nice one, still feels a bit behind the Einstar (reading between the lines) but great for larger objects than pop3.
So many otter puns. Brilliant!
Another great video. Keep them coming!
Rick! You absolutely diamond! I’ve a got a Raptor video coming soon 👍
@@MakingforMotorsport So have you played enough with the Raptor now? We are waiting :D
@mk1classic just uploading now my man! Out tomorrow once the Patrons have seen it.
@@MakingforMotorsport Nice - I hope this is the way to go. Too many upcoming car projects that need 3D scanning :D
I owned A revo mini and sold it right away for an Einstar. The software is the biggest crippling factor for scanners. I want to like this scanner and try it out but I’ve heard plenty of bad reviews of past creality scanners
I’ve had both the Scan01 and the Lizard and I found them both better than many people said. But you’re 100% right, software is key and they’ve never quite nailed that…
Dont u like Einstar software ? Why will u chose creality over Einstar
Really looking forward to raptor. Very tempted to swap my einstar for one
Excellent video ! I own an Einstar Shining 3D scanner. The Creality otter seems promising. It seems able to scan small and medium objects while the Einstar doesn't perform well on small objects. Question: where did you get the 3D model for the hemisphere target where you stuck reflective dots ?
Just got a raptor at work and wow! Absolutely smashed it out the park. Makes my old revopoint pop2 look like a 15 year old smartphone!! The otter does look impressive also and think creality have done a very good job on these new generation scanners.
With the Raptor, can you also 3D scan an item, build something quick in CAD, 3D print it and test it on what was scanned, as I want to get a scanner to make a gearbox adaptor plate for a mate but need to be sure before I drop a grand on a flashing brick 😂
Thank you for your videos on scanners and can not wait for the Raptor model.
I wonder if you would do a video comparing just the software from Shining 3D and Creality?
I have watched some videos and read some reviews of Creality software that have scare me offf until your video.
I am waiting to do motorsport stuff too. I have a Lola Sport 2000 that I want to update and modify.
I put the whole scanning process on there for that reason, so people can see.
The truth is the software is functional and does a job. But lacks the advanced features. The Otter will work even with the current software, but you’ll have an extra step or two in your workflow compared to the Einstar…
It would be interesting to see what comes out 9n top for general automotive/motorsport work, the otter/raptor or einstar!
When designing a racecar, scrutineers ask for printouts and models to assess the design, the Vegeta poseable toy offers the most articulating torso and limbs. It has a nice scaling at 0.08 (nice for cad) or 12.5. The head needed a helmet print, the torso needs 5mm extending in the midrif.
I use uhu patafix stickers for car panels/dashboard instead of markers. It's white, shapeable and reusable. Then i can scan in feature mode easily.
Thanks, I’ll have to check them out!
I always wondered about this. Is there something special about the reflectivity of official markers or the scanner/software is specifically designed to pick up the size and shape of markers. I often wondered if just regular stickers would do the same job, and I havnt come across the info anywhere.
Great video and between the Otter or POP 3 , which one you will say is better??
Thanks heaps mate. This was awesome! Did your laptop use up the full 64gb ram when scanning and processing the car? I’m deciding on a new laptop with 32gb of ram. Cheers!
Those marker tracker look just like the ones i designed.
You should try the Shaper origin stickers on the texture alignment in the new Einscan EXSTAR Software. It’s amazing. I will never use refective dots again.
I’m yet to try the software upgrade yet for Exstar…. Heard mixed things. Good that texture mode has had a bump in use ability tho….
nice review, have a peel 3, just pulled the trigger on the raptor for small stuff, arriving in a couple of days, fingers crossed it is as good as some vids i have seen, looking forward to your review :)
How would the raptor compare to the peel for larger car body panel type scans, would it work in your opinion?
@@deanclements1839 if, and i do, have a choice, definitely use the peel for something like a car, not so much for scan quality, but rather for the software, peels is much more stable and better for something like a car, only my opinion :)
I have been looking forward to an independent review for this. I purchased the CR-Scan Lizard a couple of years ago and, good as it is for Hobbyist use, it doesn't quite fulfill use cases for Small Business. Within 12 to 18 months, this should be much more affordable as well. What I would like to see is, perhaps, a "hub" accessory (portable storage and battery) so you can scan objects without a laptop, before uploading these to the software for the next step.
I've had the Otter for a few weeks and have scanned intake manifolds, turbo housings & engine shortblocks. I've had my fair share of aggravation getting quality scans. That aggravation has since been quelled from experience. Not sure how it compares to a $15-30k scanner but so far I've gotten great meshes to pull data from and has simplified my CAD time. The only thing I have yet to do is make a part to verify that it's dimensionally accurate but that's coming. I've learned to process the mesh at the highest quality that the software will allow and still export in .stl
@@El.patch.o Have you tried the Einstar for this sort of stuff? It feels like the Einscan software should be better than whatever Creality can cook up.
@mtasapl I'm sure that the Einstar software is better. I went with the Otter due to the system requirements. With the Einstar, I would have had to buy a brand new CPU. The CR scanner works with both my laptop ( 12gen i5) & my desktop (8gen i7). Both have 32G RAM and the desktop has a Quadro graphics card. If Creality can continue to improve the software, it could probably be a real in the 3D scanning world. It's not bad now, just clunky, in my opinion.
Amazing video! Thanks a lot. Waiting for Raptor :)
Great video! Cant wait for the raptor review!
Will it come any time soon?
All filmed and in the edit now… unfortunately that takes ages 😂
Hopefully for the weekend 🤞
New game, I call it "Otter? Beaver? Or Jesus?" It's a banger of a game that you can't win
21:09 I don’t know if you know it, but the Einstar got a software update. It has a rewind button now as well.
Hi there, yeah, I’m up to date with the Einstar, I didn’t mention it here as this isn’t a full comparison video…
That’s coming soon….
Bugger, ive only just bought a pop3 I knew I should have looked at this one a bit more 😢
Great video. I'm curious about 3D scanning people.
I have a Range, which is pathetic, and I prefer using the Kinect I have, but it's showing its age now.
What scanner for under £1000 would you recommend to scan people?
The PC performance bits are interesting. Does the scanning software make use of the GPU?
It uses a gpu while scaning. And cpu only while processing point cloud
If I want to scan body panels, full cars and some black or reflective objects, which one do you recommend? Einstar or Raptor
I’ll be using this to scan motorcycle engines.
Much appreciated.
I think it’ll do that job fine…
Thanks for the great review, I have been holding off getting the Einstar because I know that I would have to also upgrade my laptop for it to work.
I was looking at the range 2 and also the ferret pro, but they were not convincing enough for me for what I want to do (flat curvy surfaces similar to car body panels)
Seems like the otter could have been worth the wait. From your video I'm presuming you would choose the otter over the ferret pro or range 2 for panel scanning?
How is the software for joining 2 scans together for example joining side A and side B (top and bottom scans) into one scanned image, can it do it?
I’ve not tried the Ferret Pro or Range 2 so can’t comment on them, but the Otter would work, to a similar standard as the Einstar.
The difference is you might end up having to use other software for the joins, as this is a weak point for Creality where the Einstar has no problem.
The software is out there and it’s free. Just needs abit of homework to work it out tho
@ 00:01 bruh, isn't that a beaver? I'm not the kind of guy that gets down on otter. but trust me, I know me some bBeaver. Might want to recheck your clipart homie.
For the buttons on the back of the Otter, I felt like I was struggling a lot when pressing them. Customer support wasn\'t very helpful in resolving the issue, which was so disappointing that I had to return it.
Good review but like almost anyone on YT review it's not enough showing towards software nor how it is for retro-engineering a part (eg. Scan to CAD/SW or Fusion360 or similar). The hardware is becoming very good nowadays but software makes alot of difference .
IMO, most people want to use a 3D scanner for CAD and retro-engineering something.
The Reverse Engineering is a total different subject and completely seperate from the type of scanner you use to get the .stl (you could use Photogrammetry for example).
Check out my Reverse Engineering video with Fusion360 for a detailed how to on that…
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@@MakingforMotorsport Not really. The software used with the scanner can make alot of difference to ensure a good transition from surfaces scanned and being more "ready" in the CAD software
Very nice. What do you think the precision would be on scanning a bolt pattern on about a 14” diameter bell housing?
Plus minus 0.1mm I would expect, maybe slightly less with a good technique.. so 4thou…
Much less than the slop on bolts, good enough for dowels… not so much
Just picked up an otter after watching your review! After a couple scans, I’m having a hard time getting a clean scan of a Porsche Cayman Front bumper. I’m using large scan, fast. Maybe I need high quality? I am looking rough measurements. I am finding that there are artifacts, missing information right in the middle of what looks to be complete scanned area. Do I need aesub? Markers? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
I only ever used high quality so can’t comment on fast mode, but scanning something like a bumper, I’d try the following….
Use geometry tracking mode and place a scrumpled towel in front on the floor and on the bonnet to produce additional tracking info.
Use texture mode with masking tape on the bumper to provide clear colour edges to track off
But overall, I’d really advise you start smaller then go up from there, scanning (regardless what type of scanner) isn’t just holding the scanner, it is a skill and it takes development and practise…
There will be movements I make to maximise tracking now without even thinking about it.
Thank you so much for your reply! That makes sense and gives me another starting point. Thanks!
You could probably reduce the post-processing on your 3D printed marker is if they were on a stand off pole.
It’s a good idea that I have seen before, but my take you need to be able to scan underneath them for the standoff to be an advantage. And for that that they’d need a hell of a stand off!
@@MakingforMotorsport I was thinking like an inch? Have the magnet on the base, then in post processing on the angle you’d cut most of it away easily.
Let's goo! 🔥
Underrated channel
Very nice! 🤩good job!
When your Raptor review will go online? I got mine and i have lot of USB3 detection issues, tried with different PCs and usb3-hub without success. Would be interesting if you phased something similar.
Just putting the video together now. Hoping for next week.
When I first received it I had no detection at all, I had a new cable sent out by Creality and since then it’s worked faultlessly.
Many thanks for your reply! Creality support will also send me new USB cable and based on your feedback i have some hope it will fix the issue. On FB some more uers reported to get new USB cable as well. Looking forward to your video about the raptor.
Finally a decent review video
Cheers bud
How about test otter and Einstar to scan large object? I used Einstar and Miraco in exhibition, Einstar scan large object faster than Miraco.
What laptop are you using? Is it a good laptop to run autocad/3d Cad ?
Thank you so much for this video. After you scan the object, can we export the mesh file?
Yes sure, you can do it in the software
Which scanner would you buy if you're scanning car interiors and making parts to form-fit into corners of the dash and other places of the car, such as speaker pods, etc?
Can you create a video comparing the Otter and the Einscan?
I will be doing a comparison on the Einstar, Otter, Raptor, POP3 and whatever else gets sent to me…
@@MakingforMotorsport love your videos, when do you think this comparison will be out? Trying to decide on a scanner for scanning suspension pivot points and making upgraded spindles, upper control arms
I'd love a direct comparison between the otter, raptor, and Einstar, at the moment I'm debating between the three
Me too! 😂
You still working on that video about alternative software? Even with finding the older version of GOM, I'm always on the lookout for other tools!
Yes mate, I’ve got the latest version of GOM inspect sorted, meshmixer and a few other softwares.
Some people don't think Otter the box. Smart
Those Jokes were otterly terrible! L0Lz. Great video 👍💯
After the CR scan lizard, I'd never touch a creality scanner again. The software is truly awful. The Einstar software seems industry standard and creality's seems very low end hobbyist.
It would have been interesting to see the dimensional results in your comparison table though!
The Raptor review will be interesting.
I get you, the Creality Lizard software wasn’t great, but CR-studio made it much better.
This software is totally functional, it just misses some extra steps that the Einstar smashes…
@@MakingforMotorsport Yeah I guess Einstar had the advantage of experience with high end scanning already. We'll see how the raptor does!
Wasn’t that a beaver 🤔I see what you done there but as always a great video
I LOVED IT NICE INFO ABOUT SCANNER.....
Great video! What's good alternative for GOM Inspect?
Well… it’s now just Zeiss Inspect… but getting hold of it is a touch tricky…. Full video coming soon!
Great! Looking forward to this video. :-)
Here's a good otter joke. "Let's see if this CR Otter can crack the shell of high-quality scanning."
Nice test!
Question; are you able to run the scan on a laptop and then store it and run the postprocessing of the pointcloud on a (beefier) desktop pc, or does the 'scanner tied software' also mean you can only run it at the computer you're scanning with?
There is no obvious way to export a project as a whole on the software, but I’m sure if you dug around in the file structure you could move what you need to manually…
Great review, very detailed. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Is there a wrap film with printed dots so that you can scan faster and more accurately ?
Impressive. How well do the scans import into CAD software ?
It outputs in .stl and .obj so there are no issues importing into any CAD or slicer software…