The True Story of All History in 4 MINUTES.
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Thing is, we have these truly false conceptions of reality, and not until recently, has race ever been a factor, at least not so far in as legitimate grievances are concerned. Now, sadly, race has become an excuse and an entitlement, whereby at no other time in human history was race allowed to be perceived in such a way. The truth is, humans have always operated through a power structure, and only recently was it convenient for the loser to cry about race without admitting inferiority. Does a second place winner get to receive a 1st place trophy in any pursuit in life they didn’t win? And would a claim of race even be considered legitimate without that 2nd place opponent admitting it was something outside of him/herself, that was the reason for the loss that wasn’t a loss, but rather just an unfair game or outcome to begin with? The universe doesn’t care. 2nd is always the first loser. Even on an individual level, there is ALWAYS someone, better at some aspect, of some thing, “at”, life. And even if you could claim race without admitting your own inferiority, how would that serve you or anyone of your said race? That’s a self full-filling prophesy of a lifetime, or an eternity even, of losing. Maybe in some regard it’s better to be dead than to make excuses for your failures, especially if that’s where you’re going to throw in the towel and, not only gives up, but also let your excuse for failure be the excuse for failure of you’re entire, “race”. It’s dumb. There are no reparations for history, there’s just moving forward. There’s becoming a winner at the individual level, and allowing all individuals the right to do the same without being held to the standard that each group gets an excuse for perpetual failure so to absolve them all of the divine responsibility of ever having to try at all in the first place. It’s an absolute crime against humanity to subject any individual, created by God, and connected individually to God, to be subjected to another individual’s affinity for an entire group’s excuse. Go live the best you can now. And if you see something that will make all people losers, then say something, do something!! History is important to learn from, and human nature is immutable in my estimation, at least at the level of species. But goodness all starts with the Man in the Mirror. PS, this is also why I don’t believe in taxation as anything more than slavery itself.
"It says here in this history book that luckily, the good guys have won every single time. What are the odds?” -Norm MacDonald
BRICS vs The Reich
Damn but I miss Norm. We need more people these days that have the balls to say what needs said.
Odds are the good guys lost
Usually history is written by the victors, but there are some notable exceptions to this, the best example in American history is the CSA.
Might makes right.
I had a professor say “as a historian, it’s not my job to be accurate. I’m just telling the story.”
It’s a real mystery how the profession is no longer respected nor relevant.
There is truth in what the white man said. E.g. the Sioux kicked the Ojibwe in the head for centuries long before the white man came along. Moreover, the native Americans did not have the concept of land ownership the way Europeans did. Rather each tribe fought for control of hunting grounds to feed on. The white man would be another tribe that eventually took over the entire continental USA. Similar stories happened in Europe and Asia and Africa millennia and centuries ago. Yes, if you insist, the white man took the Americas from the indigenous groups. The British took Australia from the aborigine and NewZealand from the Maori. The Spanish took the Philippines from their native people. The Chinese took Singapore from the Malaysians. In the middle-ages, the Muslims took India from the Hindus and Buddhists. Several Millennia ago, the Japanese took Japan away from the Ainu, etc... There are few places on Earth where an indigenous group was not displaced by an invading group. Live with it.
Might is not right - just fairly successful.There are other ways. Unless you are a mafia don maybe?
@@nledaig The trouble is, too many countries are ruled by mafia dons and far worse. E.g. Russia, China, Somalia, Haiti, Turkey, latin American countries, etc...
Translation of the army officers point of view: might makes right. Conclusion: there is absolutely no problem with Russia invading Ukraine.
Russia invaded Ukraine because Ukraine wanted to be part of NATO, which is explicitly an anti-russia pact. Its the exact same thing as when we told Russia no missiles in Cuba.
@@shoopoop21Russia brought it up on themselves trying to expand into western territory for 90 years
lmao true enough
You obviously know about as much history of Russia as you do North America. Look into the 2014 color revolution in Ukraine because you have the CIA to thank for all of that.
Yeah so is it okay to invade Russian Siberia because it was never theirs and for the most part not inhabited by Russians
Not the true story of all of history. But something sadly common in our history. You can’t help but feel bad for the Native Americans though. At this late stage in American history. What chance did they still have to remain independent and free? It’s a tragedy to be sure.
This is a simpleminded point. The destruction of the civilizations of the western hemisphere is the worst thing that has ever happened. Everything that happened in the Americas prior to contact was done independently, it was like having two humanities evolve in isolation. To lose half of that is a catastrophe which has no equal. People will brainlessly repeat the sentiment of this scene as if it means something, because they are ignorant of how special the American civilizations were.
Thank you. Tired of everyone thinking theyre so smart for saying this.
That is also a simpleminded statement.
First of all, "worst thing that ever happened" is nothing more than your opinion.
How is the destruction of the Native American civilizations worse that the loss of hundreds of other civilizations thay collapsed on other continents? Like there is any objective way to measure that?
Not to mentione that these cultures were not lost, in the North there are still Native American tribes and in Middle and South America the population blended into the new nations along with many of their cultural elements.
@@Hungabrigoo "worse" potentially in scope and strength. Find another genocide equal in scope and strength to what happened in the Americas from roughly 1400-1900.
Yes, the Aztecs were immense. Yes, the vikings traveled far and wide to claim lands not native to them. Yes, 10's of 1000's of societies have been built and fallen on the premise of divine purpose and "necessity of war". But nothing on the level of what happened in the America's by European powers.
That the most powerful empire(s) in history has been built on the enslavement and destruction is not a defense or excuse for what happened in the Americas. To say otherwise is brutish and stupid. It's one thing to acknowledge the horrible reality of human beings. It's another to try and justify it.
If you see what happened to world at the hands of European Imperialism as "inevitable", "just another case of human indecency", or some other trite excuse, then it says more about you than it does about any history or civilization.
I don't even have a history background. On a human level, seeing a clip like this and thinking "yeah just another example of human's killing eachother" is fucking gross. Yeah, I'm sure the conquest of the world by various European military and economic forces is totally justifiable and definitely didn't lead to the creation of our current unaccountable, global superpowers. If you see what happened in the Western Hemisphere as "progress" or just another mark of violence, go tell that to someone on a reservation. I'm sure they'd love to hear your interpretation of history
@@Hungabrigoo Many were completely exterminated.
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They're bots. You can't convince normies haha
How did this EVER get written in Hollywood?
All people are the same, tribes and kingdoms fighting other tribes and kingdoms since the beginning of time and we're still at it , no single group can claim innocence.
You are not smart for pointing this out, nor have you justified a single thing. What was done was horribly wrong. There's no excusing it.
Iam not trying to justify anything or say there were no wrongs committed, iam making a statment about human nature and historical truth. If you can't except it that's on you. There were many different native American tribes and many different dialects and as with all people there were some shitty Indians and some good Indians, some were barbaric and some weren't and this is true of Europeans, Asians and every other historical group of peoples, so I'll say it again no one is truly innocent.
@@calvinhancock7844 why would you feel the need to say this? Whats your point exactly?
@@setsen337
I think his point is that people generally tend to romanticize the natives, as if they had no concept of war and violence before colonialism.
Or at the very least downplaying it by citing the European’s and later their ex colonies acts against the Native Americans.
To put it simply, humans are bastards. No matter where they come from.
you are so right. this is more truth that I EVER THOUGHT Hollywierd would permit.
Truth is that no matter the pageantry, war and greed are traits universal to all human societies
Yep. 100%
Not all... Just the successful ones. It's mother nature's ballgame and you have to adapt and compete just to keep your head above water.
Does it have to be that way ? why are we are still around then shouldn't be all dead ?
@@bluedragontoybash2463 Have to? for the time being yes. Capitalism, politics, and other systems that integrate the competition help embed and redistribute the animosity (as opposed to wars/rebellions).
No, we shouldn't be dead since most forms of it aren't seeking absolute annihilation. Competition, aggression, status dispute's are part of essentially all social species, millions of years old, and help establish equilibrium. They just weren't evolved for species of this magnitude, with this much leverage/resources at play. It can make aspects of society very 1-dimensional without the ability to reset.
@@bluedragontoybash2463 because we aren't completely stupid. Only a complete idiot would consider the destruction of the entire race more preferrable to surrender, and it would take an army of idiots to carry out those orders
I like how the Colonel doesn't even try and justify his own actions.
He basically points out. "Yeah, this is war, its terrible. Complaining doesn't make it any better and we just happen to be winning now"
The colonel should have also talk about the Apache-Comanche Wars of Annihilation.
Yup. Hebwas essentially saying you're exactly the same as us.
Except that we don't slaughter our foes to the last man , woman, and child.@@armynurseboy
@@jeffswail8446 the Calvary massacred many tribes before the Sioux even the Cheyenne and Arapaho peoples so to be honest the Calvery are just as sick as the Germans from WW2 because the Calvary killed millions of native people compared to how many thousands of jewish people the germans killed which is pretty ironic considering some of the settlers and Calvary were German settlers
@@CrazyHorseTheSiouxW4rrior Yes, and the North American tribes were enslaving, murdering, raping and sometimes eating each other for thousands of years before Europeans ever even wondered if there was a landmass to the west.
The only reason we don't have a full account is that they never bothered writing down their full history.
Here in Mexico we are the children of 2 conquerors; The Aztecs who were the most powerful empire in the entire continent at the time and The Spanish Empire. Both empires clashed. One lost.
Then after independence, The Mexican Empire Clashed against The American Empire, they fought above the bones of american natives that they themselves were already fighting before both great civilizations clashed. Again, one lost.
That's history, and pseudo-intellectuals trying to paint a narrative of good vs evil do a disservice of it.
And we Anglo Americans come from Celtic lands conquered by Anglo Saxons, before being conquered by Normans. Everyone has a right to expand. Everyone has a right to resist being encroached upon. Well said friend.
And in Mexico, the clash of those two culture lead to the creation of a beautiful new culture...that's what I admire about Mexico: it embraces both cultures/ empires just as depicted in the figures of the Aztec warrior and conquistador on the presidential palace!
@@therovingrobin5938 Yes and one of the benefits of the mixing of races is that none of us can fall into "white guilt" bullshit or any of that, we are both white and native. European and American. This is our legacy and gives us an objective view of the past.
@@HorrorTactico amen to that! And it makes Mexico such a wonderful place...I've got several Mexican friends and in fact, plan on living there soon
@@HorrorTactico great comment, sadly.
I think most people just assume that Indians had been riding horses for ages. The Europeans introduced them to horses. An Indian on a horse with a gun was already a huge leap from their traditional culture into the world of the Europeans.
And too late of a leap too.
The did not have horses at all? Didnt they get horses from the Spain and Portugal when Colombo discovered the continent couple of hundred of years before the action in this movie?
@@mikeszz5 my god man. Read a book.
There were no horses in the Americas until the Spanish showed up.
Columbus never visited north america
Brutal, but true. The first Sioux didn't even arrive in the Black Hlls until 1776. It was theirs for only a century, yet they claim it is their 'sacred land" that has always been theirs. History does not agree. Was what happened to the Sioux right and just? No. But neither was what the Sioux did to the Kiowa, the Omaha, the Pawnee and the other tribes.
Well said.
I am from the Pawnee natives, my ancestors fought multiple tribes to keep their land, and even aided the US government in removing these other tribes.
I mean enough the americans also call the US their sacred land now...
how long does one have to live in a place to call it home??
@@underarmbowlingincidentof1981 only takes one moment. It's your home when you make it yours, and it's yours until you die or you leave it or you lose it.
@@brianjones9780 yeah but these people are saying it wasn't the home of the sioux...
On the Trail of Tears, Cherokees took about 4000-5000 slaves with them. Nobody ever talks about Native Americans owning slaves, but they did.
And that they didn't free them until a year after the confederacy did.
They also were told 3 years ahead of time that they would be getting moved but never prepared. That was before Andrew Jackson even became President but he is always the popular one to blame.
@@dillonhunt1720 Why were they moved?
@@koikat3708 Friction with white settlers. As more and more moved in there was occasional violence. When gold was discovered under the Cherokee's feet it was pretty much over as the government knew no matter what they did whites were going to swarm the territory leading to a massacre. I won't sugar coat the decision that was clearly in the white settler's favor but it was better than doing nothing or naively thinking they could stop the gold rush any more than Great Britain thought they could stop settlers crossing into Ohio even without the promise of gold decades before.
I lived in that part of Georgia for a few years and there are quite a few historical markers of Indian massacres of white settlers. If the government didn't do something the settlers surely would have done something much worse.
@@koikat3708Indian culture and values were incompatible with white one...stealing horses for example, would get you a position as chief in Indian society, yet it got you hanged in white society...
College professors: *triggered*
Definitely. But it’s the reality of mankind, like it or not.
A true "professor" would likely have interesting views on this.
Unfortunately, here in the US we define a professor as anyone who teaches a class in a "university".
My archaeology professor did not sugarcoat anything when discussing the Aztecs. I doubt you've ever even been to college.
@gentlemanvontweed7147 woke culture fucked everything. They own the universities now. They own the movie industry. History is literally being remade by those assclowns to fit their agenda. What a time to be alive! 🤦♂️
@@thelostcosmonaut5555 "My anecdotal experience agrees with my ideology therefore you wrong"
I doubt you have internal monologue
As a Native American this is so true lol. We were fighting each other for land and power. Ain't nothing spiritual about that.
I dunno, man. All life, and all happenings in life have a spiritual component, wouldn't you agree?
Spirit isn't some far off force divorced from reality. They're one and the same. My ancestor were Vikings and assorted warrior tribes, like yours. They knew the gods don't turn their heads away from war, but embrace it. I'd argue that war is no less spiritual than church.
@@jackmac2217the “gods” you speak of are demons. There is only One True Living God
@@riccardorinaldo7934 why don't you go beg/pray/cry about the evil pagans some more.
@@thatsmygrogdd984 sometimes when the government pisses me off, I have this fantasy of traveling back in time and arming all the natives in Plymouth rock with AK-47’s and torpedoes lol. I hope you don’t take offense to that.
@@riccardorinaldo7934 There is no such thing as a “one true god”. Every religion always claim they believe in the one true god and your religion is no different.
The Jews claim the Hebrew god as the real god because they believe their god is the real god just as other civilizations and tribes believe their gods are the real gods and the “others” are demons as a tactic to lure more followers and thus more power and control. You’re nothing but a pawn just like every person who follows religion, subject to fear mongering and toxic self righteousness.
"Violence is the supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived"
-Robert Heinlein
the message of the anti-Christ
Lies ! It was the great Jean Rasczak who said it.
@@tristandeleglise3924like most quotes, it's impossible to find who said it first, relax.
So cool 😎👍
However jean didn't write an entire political system based on the quote.
Some say the white man is the savage, and some say the Indian is the savage. In truth, they were both savage.
Mankind is savage. Always has been. Ethnicities needn’t apply.
The Europeans who came were not savage, they were brutal, but in the grand scheme of things, quite civilized.
@@sid2112civilization is only a quiet form of savagery
A matter of perspective, really. Judge them not by the standards of today, judge them by the standards they lived in.@@brianjones9780
@sid2112 can’t argue with that.
The name of this movie is:
Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee (2007)
I was looking for this thanks
Thank you
Thank you!
You know funny enough my surrogate father was actually in this film. He was a background extra in the main meeting scene.
Thanks 💯
Wow, just 100 years later in 1976 American Indians would be driving Pontiac Trans Am's
Well, Pontiac was an Indian Chief and Trans Am means across America.
So did they win?
@@timbuktu8069lol, no. Cool names though
Pontiacs Mom probably gave it a lot of thought.@@somefuckstolemynick
The Hoff is American Indian?😯
I laughed.
I've been to Little Bighorn and stood on the same hill that Custer and many of his men died on, and in that moment it gave me a perfect understanding of why the battle ended with he and his entire regiment massacred. The area is nothing but an endless sea of humps, small hills that can easily hide forces behind them, which is what happened. Custer believed that he was facing a numerically inferior force when in fact he was the one outnumbered by a factor of over 3 to 1. Almost from the beginning, the outcome of the battle was never in doubt.
The entire 7th cavalry wasn't massacred. Only the men with Custer. The units under Major Reno and Captain Benteen survived. The 7th would show up again to do the Wounded Knee massacre.
6 to 1 or even more
I still remember my father's words when we also visited the Little Bighorn. And my father also graduated from West Point, in 1951, as Custer. He said, "He deserved what he got!!!".
He was reckless. Left his Gatling guns behind cause he thought they slowed him down. The Gatlings were a force multiplier that could have changed things
@@captainkyperplayz1162 My dad told us at West Point they tell cadets that the Little Bighorn is a good example of what not to do.
Colonel Miles not taking any Sitting Bull shit.
He was done sitting for that bull shit?
Eh Indians didn't have the tech to effectively genocide other Indians thus proving the white man was worse once and for all.
Nice 👌 😂
Sitting Bull converts Miles to metric.
Ok, I didn't personally think of that, good job man 😂😂😂
“The strong do what they will and the weak must accept”
-Thucydides, the Peloponnesian War
How un-American.
Good, "American" is pretty cringe@@prostation3844
@@prostation3844 I disagree. It's take it as a understanding to stand up for what you believe in.
@@prostation3844what?
That's how N word think.....
They both were dropping some historical-fire ass bars
They should of rap battled
@@portugeese_man_o_war they was dropping fire no metaphors, em would be proud
@@portugeese_man_o_war sHoUlD oF
@@SpanishAvenger you sHouLd hAve shut up when you made that reply
😂😂😂
This scene was not only true then, it has been the case in every country, in every part of the world forever. No country has remained static with an original people who moved in to virgin land and still hold it today. The history of the world is full of people, tribes, clans, Kings, Countries raiding and attacking each other. Sometimes to steal possessions, sometimes to take the land, sometimes to take slaves, sometimes simply because of boredom. It's the sad fact of humanity.
What is this scene from?
@@bdarth51Also curious, am surprised to see this in a movie 😮
"No country has remained static with an original people who moved in to virgin land and still hold it today."
Mongolia and Polynesia.
Movie: Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee. Sitting Bull meets Colonel Miles Scene.@@bdarth51
Bury my heart at wounded knee. Scene where Sitting Bull (played by August Schellenberg) meets Colonel Miles (played by Shaun Johnston) @@bigtomboye
It the movie, "Dancing with Wolves", it makes the Pawnee the bad guys bullying the Lakotas. But in reality, the Pawnee where the smaller tribe, constantly harassed by the stronger Lakotas. In 1873, the Sioux of Lakota tribe attacked the Pawnees at what became known as "Massacre creek". The Sioux raped, tortured, killed, and mutilated over 150 Pawnee women children, and old folk. So much for the brave & noble warrior image portrayed in the Kevin Costner film.
A Kevin Costner film being historically accurate? Have you seen Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves?
@@joelellis7035 very few films are historically accurate, most movies are not history lessons
Can’t believe the RUclips fascist allowed you to post the truth . How long did they ban you from RUclips.
robin hood was a documenary, and the events were filmed in real time @@joelellis7035
@@scottbright595 Thank you, Captain Obvious.
And the Mandan joined the USA when Lewis and Clark came through, flew the American flag, had land office platted land, and have more wealth than other tribes and ride their combines farming grain going on 100 plus years( working up to the combine as technology came) They were militarily powerful and allied with the US and nobody hears about them
Mandan, huge part of the Lewis/clark success & the western expansion of the US
You're correct. Who are or were the Mandan (besides helpers of Lewis and Clark), and do they still exist today? From what you say, it sounds like they chose to adopt ways that would allow them to keep their land.
Because unfortunately some people are just determined to make the USA out to be wholly Evil.
The Mandan were farmers, not hunter gatherers/ nomads. They were militarily the most powerful tribe in the northern plains, and by some measures technologically ahead of their neighbors. They had the beginnings of metal smelting. They recognized the superiority of the weapons and tools of Lewis and Clark s expedition and more or less said " count me in!" And adopted any technical improvements they saw. They were already good farmers, and had a strong social order, so they when seeing a better way to farm picked it up. The guy riding a combine on a 2000 acre wheat farm in North Dakota with black hair is odds on a Mandan. And probably still doesn't like the Sioux very much.
@@jaytowne8016 Thank you! I want to learn more about this history. This is pretty cool!
My history professor taught me long ago that a rightful claim to property needs three things:
1: You occupy it
2: You use it for something
3: You can defend it.
If you do not have those three things, it is yours in name only.
Your professor is a literal grade A maroon.
Does "defending " also constitute lies and betrayal? How about honoring the treaties?
As far as I am concerned, and because no peace treaty was never reached, we are still at a political war against Europeans.
I've been telling people on the Internet that for years. No land is yours by birthright, superstition, historical claim, etc.
Your professor forgot to mention that you pay taxes on it.
@@aarayfett8349
LMAO
Yeah, ever heard of point roberts!? So why does U.S. have a land claim that clearly (geographically speaking) is part of Canada?
You can tell yourself whatever you want, but the evidence is clear. Someone wanted it more and genocided us for it!
We simply want the land back to protect it. We are stewards. Not land owners.
@@aarayfett8349 ok by that logic, canada has right to occupy usa
Something no one realizes about the Indians is just how incredibly difficult it is to ride a horse bareback.
Bareback costs extra. I learned that in Las Vegas.
Stirrups changed human history, funny to see guns a bareback
Not an American, but can anyone tell me why the Indians refuse to adapt to stirrups that the white men had?
@@riverman6462 I think they wanted to be "one with the horse," or something like that.
@@annep.1905 It is still a bad idea. Steppe nomads were more "one with the horse" than anyone in history and they invented the stirrup. It just gives you a lot more stability and that makes you more effective.
I don't want to speculate in bad faith but it seems to me such rigid thinking and unwillingness to adapt was exactly the reason the Natives lost so often.
"...for no less noble a cause." I do miss when writing in the movies was good.
What movie is this?
@@MrEpeeFencer Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
@@Erik-qx6km Thank you.
Yeah...almost impossible to find writing like this in the Disney+ era.
It is brutal but true. Look at the Comanches, they ruled the plains. It was the same all over the continent
They even would raid American, Mexican, and other Native settlements outside their territory just to set “an example” for foreigners. Anyone who was lucky to have survived was often captured and enslaved by the Comanche.
Comanche were also known for getting creative in how they would torture and kill their victims, and they very much would take their time and make sure every second was an episode of agony.
@@dastemplar9681 Yea, in Hell on Wheels, the whore and the black man were both slaves and I think that was the attraction for the two characters. I was explaining her face to my youngest son. Who is a college grad, don't get me started.
The funny part about the Comanche is that they were almost exterminated themselves by other natives. They came from the north east after being kicked out of their lands by the Sioux. They headed south. It was after they discovered horses that they became masters of the saddle and dominated the entire south west area. Other tribes feared them.
I remember reading a description of them by a Spanish priest. He said on foot they were unimpressive in stature and in body. But on horseback they were one with the horse.
@@NzbdjcnxThe only tribes that were peaceful were the ones that already dominated an area. Being able to hold land is as important as being able to conquer it.
@@brainplay8060 Here in the east, we have tribes that seem like they are peaceful. But back in there day, they dominated other tribes, by taking their lands. From what I see, it is kind of the same way in the west. The tribes, fought over hunting lands for the most part.
So basically, wrongs were done on both sides. And we need to stop treating history like a fairytale in which one side was all good and the other all bad. It's time to have the maturity to accept that history is created by the joint efforts of good, bad, and conflicted individuals together. It's time to grow up
Wrong. The point is to learn that it is wrong to subjugate others. Why is this so hard for Americans to understand?
@setsen337 as long as resources are a finite thing, men will compete with each other for them. Thinking otherwise is a pipe dream.
@user-iv1po3rr8g whats your point exactly? Are murder, rape and theft okay or not? Pick one, and stick to it.
@@doctordank You don't have to justify something just because it exists. The moment you justify horrific acts, you've sold your soul. We have a choice in how we act. If we each choose to act violently, because other people are violent, we will forever live in a violent world. Oddly, this is the message of Christianity, and its one that no Christian since Christ has ever understood.
@@setsen337It's wrong...now... It wasn't wrong for thousands of years beforehand. It was the norm before. Technically it's still the norm today but we hide it under laws that require violence to enforce. Slavery and conquering lands are always just one generation away from becoming the norm again.
Imagine this movie being made now lol
They’d probably get Taylor Sheridan to make it.
If that's Custer he'd be black and like men.
What movie is it?
@@MrEpeeFencer Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee. It is on Max
Ya and he’d ruin it
Damn, now that's a movie scene that would not be made today!
The strong have always conquered their weaker neighbors. That hasn't changed even today where we see conflicts in eastern Europe and the Middle East. Peoples will still be fighting 1000 years from now. Its what we do.
Yep. That’s the truth.
This is also why with the machines of war advanced as they are today,we are heading for extinction.
@donaldberry822 could be. I forget who said that WW3 would be fought with bombs and WW4 would be fought with sticks and stones.
@@mikeuptegrove
Whomever suggested there were to be a WW 4 is very optimistic.
@@mikeuptegroveit was Einstein who said that. I'm leaning more towards the very real possibility of a WW3, but no matter how things play out, it will end in a singularity-type event where modern life, historical life, are entirely ancient in comparison. My guess is a technocratic nobility gains control of whatever's left and rules the planet like it's one giant organism. The world we know IS ending, what comes after is the big question.
Interestingly, I also read that Kevin Kostner's film "Dances With Wolves" is totally inaccurate. In the film, he portrays the Lakota Sioux as peaceful compassionate people who made friends with Kostner and raised the White orphan girl played by Mary McDonald who eventually becomes Kostner's wife, whose family was brutally murdered by the Mohawk-hairstyled Pawnee and their savage leader played by Wes Studi. Studi also killed and scalped Kostner's guide into Indian country early in the film. In the film, the Lakota later had to go to war against them in total self-defense with Studi going down last in the final battle. In fact, the Pawnee were allies of the US and the 7th Cavalry and they were terrified of the Lakota Sioux who brutally attacked them on numerous occasions to force them off prime hunting grounds in the Dakotas and in Nebraska.
Costner... :)
LOL! Costner. I stand corrected. Must be the German in me.@@david4077-d6x
Finally the truth has been spoken.
Exactly. It’s a very concise dialogue of the reality of mankind’s existence.
Like the Bible..it's mans truth..not spiritual truth..war is the devil's tool of control.. unconditional love is the greatest power..but ego rules the world..
Like the the Bible is mans truth..not spiritual truth.. unconditional love is the highest power, but ego rules the world.., for it's the devils tool.
Nailed it.
Absolutely
Territory belongs to those who are capable to defend it and hold it.
True. Possession is 9/10th the law.
So you're pro-rape, nice. Lots of pro-rapists in these comments
That's really the truth of it. That same land saw the dinosaurs come and go in a reign that lasted 160 million years! It saw another 65 million years go by before the first hominids crawled up out of the dust. I hardly think it cares that some smart, naked apes have been squatting on it for a few thousand. Any part of the earth belongs to whoever is standing on it at any given time. If you get pushed off, guess what, it's not yours anymore. That's why, if you're in possession of valuable land, you'd better be on the cutting edge all the time. If you aren't, someone who is, will take it away from you. It's not even a question of if. It's just a matter of when and who does it.
@@setsen337
He did say anything about rape though?
So if someone beats you up and takes your house you are okay with it? Kind of flies in the face of the idea of private ownership of land.
Theres a scene in "custer of the west" between custer and dull knife that's very similar:
"Gen. George Armstrong Custer: I'll make it very simple for you. The fact that we seem to be pushing you clear off the earth is not my responsibility. The problem is precisely the same as when you Cheyenne decided to take another tribe's hunting ground. You didn't ask them about their rights. You didn't care if they had been there a thousand years. You just had more men and more horses. You destroyed them in battle. You took what you wanted, and right or wrong, for better or worse, that is the way things seem to get done. That's history. I'm talking about history. You are a militarily defeated people. You are paying the price for being backward. And whatever my personal feelings, and I don't say I have, there's nothing I can do to change all this. Do you understand?
Chief Dull Knife: I understand."
Custer was actually a terrible person though
Exactly. Very important dialog! And so true. No one said it’s nice. Doesn’t have to be. It’s the cold, hard, reality. We can strive for better, but at the end of the day, it always returns to more of the same as things get scarce, or feel that way.
@snowdroog1 So was hitler. But if hitler states that 2+2=4 is he wrong by virtue of his name? Stop being foolish.
@@stevenrubisch629 friend, I didn't say the conclusion was wrong. What you even posting for?
@snowdroog1 we’ve heard that many people are/were terrible. We’ve also learned that all it takes is to repeat something over and over until even lies become true. What if all the, “terrible”, people of history are actually the good people? What if we’ve all been lied to?
Law of Conquest. It is only your land if you can keep it
"Sir, that is a load of Siiting Bull Shit!"
The Native Americans were not a bunch of innocent nature lovers. They were brutal to each other and tortured their enemies over thousands of years before Europeans arrived. This is not a 'hit' on Native Americans. It is human nature.
Source: "Trust me bro"
Much of this I learned from Native Americans and also from archeological evidence. There is also increasing evidence that the Native Americans may have butchered people who existed on this continent before the arrival of the Native Americans. There were other people who were her before the Native Americans! @@osagenative1791
@@osagenative1791 what source it’s true there’s records of native Americans were brutal to each other. They had slaves as well.
@@ConsumptiveSoul many of these "records" you speak of were written by white colonizers who had a vested interest in portraying Native people as mindless savages who were undeserving of the land, so of course many accounts are going to say that. Did tribes fight each other? Sure. Was it on the same level as the Europeans during the 100 years war? Nope. When tribes fought each other it was more like a street fight between gangs with wooden clubs. We didn't see wars of attrition and fields littered with dead bodies until Europeans arrived. As for slavery, there were some "upper elites" within 5 tribes in the Southeast (out of 600 tribes spread across the country) who engaged in chattel slavery because they were assimilating into European value systems and were intermarried with Wh1tes, so you can take a guess as to who introduced this system of slavery to those particular tribes. Hint: it was Wh1te ppl.
Ahh the colonizers justifying their pitty existence in one's home and still bending over their corporate overlords.
It gets even more ironic when you consider both the natives and the Indo-Europeans share ancestry from the Ancient North Eurasians. This is kinda like a weird cultural family reunion where they're both accussing eachother of being violent war cultures. We both migrated from Siberia as violent warbands conquering and subjugating others. They (natives, Q haplogroup) went east, we (Indo-Europeans, R1 haplogroup) went west. We're fairly similiar, and the lands we now settle belonged to unique cultures who we replaced. Also, native tribes that are closer to the north are from later migrations, so they admixed with east asians and mongolics (thus why they have less prescence of the Q Y-DNA haplogroup than lower parts of the americas) before invading the americas that had direct ANE/ANS descent. So, yeah, the natives were kinda the direct opposite of a peaceful society; They had a violent warrior caste and raiding style of warfare that is pretty reminiscent of the Indo-European Kóryos tradition, which I personally speculate is as old as the ANE.
Native Americans have pretty much the most white washed history in the world or at least of how is it taught here in Europe. We were taught already in Kindergarten of how the white man came to the Americas. Took their land and throwed them into reservations who tended to be the most baren land.
What is of course certainly true.
But no mention of the Native Americans fighting each other in brutal tribal warfare taking each others land, no mention that every healthy adult male was considered a warrior, basically being the most militarized society that ever existed, no mention that they practiced slavery, no mention of mutilating their defeated enemies corpses and decorate their homes and belts with their body parts to impress the ladies (basically wearing a scalp around your belt was equal to a military medal, it was to show of your capability as a warrior) no mention that they killed almost every single person in a defeated tribe, small children, men, the elderly except the non-pregnant young women (maybe the 8-12 year old children too were spared if they were lucky to be adopted into the tribe) and kept them as sex slaves, no mention of ritually torturing prisoners to death for hours or even days and in some tribes even ritual cannibalism was practiced.
You should watch "How Hollywood stereotyped the Native Americans" on RUclips. Basically it's a video of how Hollywood negatively "stereotyped" the Native Americans in old Western movies. Of how the movies showed the Native Americans attacked settler caravens, attacked settlements and kidnapped people, executed people by burning the on the stake, while footage shows US Soldiers and Native Americans fighting inside a fort one of the commentars even said "they talk about (the moves) indian ferocity, they talk about Apache atrocities, historically it was quite the opposite, it was the Native Americans wo where overwhelmed by white population and settlement" So what does this mean? Apache didn't execute prisoners of war, scalped them and left their corpses to rot because they lost in the end? Did the Holocaust not happen because the Germans lost?
Certainly those old western movies are quite biased on the view of the main characters who were white. But those this make it untrue? They did all this things mentioned in the movies. In fact they are probably depicted as more tame than it actualy was, if they would portray uncensored Native American warfare with of how they cut peoples, ears, nose, lips and eyelids of and buried them head deep to die by exposure or how they cut small parts of someones arm of, to cauterize the wound only to cut of another piece and than repeat the process, it would not even allowed to be aired at that time. Of how those movies are racist because they portray only the bad side of the Native Americans?
Was torture and genocidal war all that Native American culture had to offer? Certainly not.
But is it racist to present day Norwegians to portray Vikings as raiders and slave traders? Because that is what they did!
I actually understand why the Native Americans protest those movies. Because they want to keep the current day view of Native Americans being the poor victims of European Imperialism.
As a very small minority in the US they basically have no economical or political weight. Heavily relying on Native Americans Sympathizers helping them to ensure that their own interests are heard.
To keep the the legend of the "Noble Savage" alive. Because if the view changes from "innocent victim" to "the Native Americans were as worse as the European Colonizers" could disillusion their Sympathizers and lose their already very limited political voice.
It's still a shame though what happenend to the Native Americans in the end. A modern, independent Native American state were they kept their interesting culture and traditions but left their warlike nature behind would be a lovely place to go as a tourist. Like a post WW2 Japan.
Very interesting. So which native americans would be considered the ones who came here first? I'm guessing the ones from South America generally?
@@TheZod00 Correct. The more southern american natives like the Mayans and Incans are mostly descendents from the first migrations east (there's many thousands of years and several ancestor cultures between them), making them the true natives of that land as far as I'm aware. The more northern parts of the americas are from later migratory warbands. Though, it's worth noting even those first peoples conquered eachother and made empires, as you'd expect from cultures with emphasis on warriors. Prehistory and early history is pretty fascinating.
@@Teufer2 ... took their lands and threw* them ("throw" is an irregular verb). / settler caravans* / burning them* on the stake / who were* overwhelmed / but those things* make it untrue? / cut people's* (body parts) off*. You need to spell check before posting such elaborate posts. Other than that, great research.
@@einundsiebenziger5488 English is a second language for me mate. And I don't really think I need to spell check. This is a RUclips comment not a scientific research paper. As long as it's understandable and not to unpleasant to read it's good enough in my opiniopn.
Still a thank you for the corrections, still got some room left for improvements on grammar.
Was in a chat room about this very thing. The Native Americans present in the chat went on and on about how the white people did this or did that to them. I basically pointed out the same thing in this video. Wasn't being vindictive. Just wanted some honesty in the conversation. They and all the woke people in there basically called me a white supremacist, among other things. They simply didn't want to hear it. For them, the idea is more important than the truth.
I'm ethnically Romanian. both of my Parents came from Communist Romania. For centuries Romania was ruled by the Romans, Pechenegs, Bulgarians, Hungarians, Avars, and Turks. but did we complain about it? No. we fought for independence. Many times we lost. and more recently we won. if you want to keep your land, fight for it!
To be fair we TURKS didn't genocide romanias as the Yankees genocide the native American
@@islammehmeov2334 they didn't. but they did genocide the arnenians .
@@yilus7142 this is about the TURKS and the romans
I agree, but why do you have a pony for your profile picture? That is the real question.
@@islammehmeov2334most deaths came from diseases
Crazy Horse has surrendered. They then joined Neil Young and put out some fine music.
Privilaged.
😂😂😂
Cortez the Killer was a banger.
Not really.
Up till this point justification for conquest and brutality wasn't really a thing. The kings of Syria, Mongolians, Romans and all other powerful people's conquered, enslaved and committed genocide because they could.
Yes, they took whatever they had the strength to take, and they didn't feel the least bit guilty about it. They were, of course, hated by the people they conquered, which is not surprising. No one enjoys being conquered by a foreign power...and all populations mourn being conquered. Meanwhile, the conquerors celebrate their victory. So it goes.
Technically the Roman Senate and later Emperors would need justification for further conquests.
@@jessiemeisenheimer8675 "Technically the Roman Senate and later Emperors would need justification for further conquests." They needed explain to themselves why they should go to war, they didn't need to justify it to the people they attacked.
The Christian kingdoms of Europe had some doctrines theoretically defining "casus belli", and warfare in the Medieval era was generally more sparing of civilians than the Classical era. Also, the US often tried to justify its wars against and expulsions of Native Americans based on misinterpreted treaties and laws. So, at least in these two examples, you see that explicit rationalizations for war often couldn't just be for conquest, and sometimes limited the nature of the war.
Anyone remember how Disney Pocahontas opens? Powhatan's first lines boil down to: "we just thrashed the tribe downriver! You should have seen Kocoum!" the truth of the matter is, man has been conquering each other for ages. Whether he does it with a rock, a sword, or a gun, conflict has been much of the story of man. The briefest of looks at history tells you what you need to know.
"What is History, but a fable agreed upon?"
-Napoleon Bonaparte
"Ligers are pretty much my favorite animal."
-Napoleon Dynamite
Wrong. The past happened.
“Get off this estate."
"What for?"
"Because it's mine."
"Where did you get it?"
"From my father."
"Where did he get it?"
"From his father."
"And where did he get it?"
"He fought for it."
"Well, I'll fight you for it.” -Carl Sandburg
Native Americans: How DARE you call us savages!
White Man: Bro were holding these negotiations on an animal hide!
Dude wrote a book that literally no one will read but couldnt include the name of the movie.
His skate videos weren't trending so he figured a video about race will bump up those views
The films is an HBO series called "Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee" after the book it's based on by Dee Brown.
Wow. Something very reminiscent of whats going on in middle-east.
We visited the Comanche museum a few years ago. I had already read "Empire of the Comanche Moon". Moving through the exhibits I chuckled to myself. They were making themselves out to be peaceful, and caring people while ignoring the facts of their brutality to other tribes as well has Mexican and Texan settlers. I don't blame them really. Too bad we can't get a really honest and well made movie about that time, or better yet that book.
The truth is usually simpler than we make it out to be, indeed.
As my late father use to say God would probably hold the European culture more responsible. They had the advantage in they had a understanding of the 10 commandments and the sermon on the mount and other scriptures that has been the foundation of western culture whether someone likes it or not.
The foundation of western culture is individual freedoms, not God’s law. America is a secular liberal atheist nation, not a Christian nation.
Based history vs feelings
I wish humans wouldnt kill each other senselessly. We just need to remember past wrongs to not forget, and learn going forward.
Yeah, that’s the thing…the past is never wrong, it’s just the past. At the time, the people then did as they believed they must. It’s the same now, only we will ever understand the context of the times we live in, and no matter what, posterity will view our decisions through their lens in the context of their reality then. But there seems to be certain things that define all species that are immutable. This scene captures that, for better or worse.
Peace is just a prelude to greater war. War is in human nature. Since dawn of time. Human tribes are at war with each other. For land, wealth, glory, or just petty grievences. That was what it is for 10,000 years of human existence. And will continue to be so for how long humans will exist.....
Humans have been killing eachother for thousands of years, for a variety of reasons. Who are we, only a handful of decades old, to question the means?
@@mikeuptegrove Those who ignore history, are doomed to repeat it.
@@mikeuptegrove well why don't we try to place our current situation in a historical context and think about it as we do early times? Certainly learning and trying to a think differently isn't a bad thing
The Sioux of the Black Hills, after Lewis and Clark, literally became a "most favored nation" to the US. They were granted control of their region's fur trade, and were even innocculated against smallpox.
Brutal
Reality sadly is, and always has been. Live like this perpetually or with homeless on drugs everywhere with no purpose? Or in families that aren’t unified and have too much leisure time but to complain and look for greener grass when life is right in front of you? Reality is still no different, the context of our perception has changed. Reality hasn’t.
As a white man who grew up trapping with the ojibwe, this is 65% of our conversations went...
Such a goddamn amazing scene, love it. So much to learn here.
Can you imagine if North American remained as it was? I wouldn’t be able to internet it up with you fine folks. What a waste that would be…thank goodness for 1492!…💪
I am surprised how many people see this for the first time and this is in a movie that was on HBO
What movie is it
@@alg7115 Bury my heart at Wounded knee from 2007 or 2008 HBO production
Yep. Nobody's hands are clean.
Germans when the allies give Poland its land back.
Yeah, it’s every script for history. Just change a few names around and the story works like every time.
Allies never gave Poland any land back, they handed the country to Stalin🤔
That worked out well for them and the whole of Eastern Europe.
DYOR
So Truman should have went to 3rd world war for the sake of Poland? @@wotanragnarok59
@@wotanragnarok59 true.
@@wotanragnarok59oh dear...the Soviet Union was part of the allies! And it took polish land and gave it to Ukraine and in turn rewarded Poland with East Prussia!
History is quite simple. Wish more people thought the way people in these comments do- true understanding of where we come from and human nature.
An honest message in a film. Beautiful
Does everyone forget the French and Mexico were just as if not more brutal? Especially Mexico after the war.
Land cannot be stolen, only won or lost.
Damn. That was one of the most profound yt vids I've seen in a while, and I'm always looking for profound...
We are reaching levels of based never thought possible
What movie is this
Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee (2007)
@@Trolleyatthestation thank you, brother
The scene makes some amazing points about the nature of humanity.
The description however, reads like the thoughts of an uneducated radical in denial of the role of racism in human conflicts or at the very least its partial role.
What's more ridiculous is that it uses this movie scene as its only validation, a film influenced by notions of monetization and inevitably imbued with the perspectives and biases of its writers.
What cracks me up is by the time the Europeans came the Native Americans still hadn't even invented the f××king Wheel 😂
💀💀🤣🤣🤣 I KNO RIGHT LIKE SHIIIIEEEET!!!!! DEM STUPID AHH INDINS DIDN EVEN ENVENT DA WHEEL!!!! 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️ shit got me rollin!!!
Yet they still survived and thrived and some dressed beautifully with war paint and colored feathered headdresses etc. and what’s your point !?
We were just better at it. 🤷♂️
Took them 4minutes
I can do world history, most of life, and give advice in two short sentences.
Some people suck.
Don’t be one of them.
That's the most italian indian I've ever seen before
Yep. Pretty comic.
This is me and my sister every time we fight over the car.
hahahahahahaha
I'm on a jobsite that the owner spent over a half million for native monitors because we found one Injun bone. What a joke. Guess they get the last laugh.
I have hard time living with how the Comanche lived with neighboring tribes. Long before a white man knew what a Comanche was.Spaniards were the first to find out My Grandmother was pure Cherokee. Her grandmother married into a white family for to save their lands in East Tennessee around Cades Cove. I hate these people changing history. I'm actually surprised Russel Means starred in this . He is a great American, no matter what his politics are. But this hold true.
If you know the argument it’s more of “Hey indigenous people where tricked, belittled, lied to, genocided and push back to different lands hundreds of times. Maybe let’s fix some of the racist shitty mistakes that the government did, like betraying a treaty” I have a Chippewa background and I’ve heard horror stories of the chippewa, even as late as 1920s, be taken away and forced into religious conversion schools and camps by the government. These people were treated horribly and sometimes buried in the school due to dying from the horrible treatment.
No one for the argument of land back or even equality for natives say war isn’t a part of life, they say the shit we did as a country was fucked.
Honestly we have so much unused land that doesn’t even have resources. Why not just give that shit back, it’s useless to us since we don’t have a religious or historical significance to it.
Yes, it was not a pastoral wonderland before Europeans arrived.....
Biden's Fault
Wow... this was really good!
What movie is this from?
The movie is called Bury my heart at wounded knee
Stone age culture (indians hadn’t even invented the wheel or written language) meets advanced civilization and promptly loses. Its just reality.
Nice to hear some real TRUTH . Now support Israel !
NO! America first, Israel last.
* >>> Taking a little Hollywood HBO movie scene out of its full context to justify what exactly here??? ...I have a "white" dad and a "Native American" mother, so let me add my little two flimsy internet bits to this: those "savage" tribes were a lot more socially smarter and sophisticated than people will EVER understand these days!... Benjamin Franklin knew that though, and the Iroquois Confederacy was a prime inspiration for the American Republic and its constitution, the indian Kondiaronk and his amazing speeches was a prime inspiration for what became the entire Western European enlightenment movement.... those conquered "savages" who Theodore Roosevelt let march in front of his inauguration parade as his proudest and noblest ornament where a prime example to the last free spirits of the American West and beyond... when the Indian chiefs came to Washington and Eastern major cities to make their case against their land that was legally stolen under false contract (NOT conquered) they saw how many homeless women and children there were on our streets and were totally disgusted and horrified, and went back to their socially equal and lovingly supported tribes and said: "This is where we will be led if we take their route."... Yes, they fought cruelly, and yes they lost.... but guess what world we now live in??? A truly and morally and spiritually bankrupt one! Armies of walking dead druggies and homeless, a suicide and loneliness epidemic undreamt of, and an America so grossly divided and ruined that a country as barely as big as the state of New Jersey (Israel) is dictating our foreign policey! WOW!!!! That's some sad and pathetic shit right there! YOU BETTER EDUCATE YOURSELF with the BIGGER picture there buddy... because as this all "progresses" it gets WORSE!!!!
What movie is that from - would love to see it?
that soldier didn't even blink.....tough fellow
Nelson Miles was wounded 4 times during the Civil War and won the Medal of Honor for gallantry at Spotsylvania.
he didn't nor does he play at all@@d.owczarzak6888
@@d.owczarzak6888 He was also the last commanding general of the US Army.
What movie is this? I want to watch it so bad right now, and I got 4 days off to do it.
EDIT: found it, it's called Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee from 2007
The Iroquois drove the Sioux west where they ran into the Chippewa, the Winnebago and other Great Lakes tribes. The Comanche drove the Apache west where they ran into the Hopi and the Navajo. Indians were killing each other for a long, long time. Not happy, maybe not fair, but that's how it was.
This is from a film called Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee. The entire movie is about the mistreatment of Plains Indians from the Bighorn to the killing of Sitting Bull. However, someone with a clear agenda cherry picked the one scene that looks poorly on the Sioux as an attempt to misrepresent the legal rights of the Fort Laramie Treaty as something like the liberal perception of the Israeli/Palestine conflict. As a religious issue with arguments on both sides. And now a bunch of clearly ignorant conservative rubber neckers are commenting on it like its supporting their justification of some dead peoples warcrimes because they identify with them on the basis of nationalism but more importantly because the left disagrees.
Is this a clip from a full movie or show? If so can anyone provide the info or link, thanks
A few inconvenient facts....uh oh
when chief sitting bull himself is being played by a European man you know it is not a fair argument.
The fact is there are no Natives left to argue their case.
grazing Bison: "just kill each other already!"