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Bad News Brown - How Much Money I Was Paid in WWF & Why I Quit
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2020
- Bad News Brown reveals what kind of money he was paid by Vince McMahon before he quit. Also, Bad News says he was promised the WWF Heavyweight Championship ➤ TitleMatchNetwo...
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Bad News Allen (aka Bad News Brown in WWF) is a judo champion who competed in the 1976 Olympics. When he joined WWF in the late 1980s, Bad News says Vince McMahon promised him the WWF Heavyweight Championship which would make him the company's first black champion. So what kind of payouts and paychecks are we talking about? Find out what kind of money was being paid to the top WWF stars and the alleged pay discrepancies between certain talents.
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Bad News Brown, his real name was Allen James Coage, was born in 1943 and passed away in 2007. He left us too early. May his soul rest in peace!
Too early .
Probably didn’t have health insurance because pro wrestling doesn’t have a union. It all comes back to Hogan. He could have done so much more for the guys. Instead he’s gotta pose for 15 minutes after having the same match he’s had the last 30 years.
If you shake his hand count you fingers lmao I love that
I know that was a good one I have to remember that one
Dude had mad knowledge.
I would go with,"When Vince shakes your hand, check your back (cause Vince or any promoter might stabbed you in the back).
Seriously the greatest description of VKM of all time.
@1:12 Did you also see the masonic hand sign when talking about Vince too! I seen new jack do the same thing when talking about Vince killer McMahon! He has a lot of blood on his hands! New Jack!
You ever notice the heels are the more down to earth people in that era?
great point!...very intuitive...It does!
Yeah I've noticed that too
Being a heel is alot of psychology. So most already have a bit of personality and how to use it. So they pretty much enjoy expressing a dark side.
Met DiBiase at the Hard Rock in 1991. Nicest dude in the world.
And Hogan the biggest fraud out of all of them.
I met Bad News in Cloverdale BC with my Brother at a Indie Show in 1997. He was trying to stay in kayfabe mode but He saw the looks on are face and seen how happy we were to meet him and he softened!! Great guy.
Bad News Brown was so articulate. He'd make a great presence today in a company that actually appreciates him...RIP Bad News Brown.
he was a cool dude .
Yeah he’s one of the smart ones isn’t he?
I loooooved him.
Articulate?
I just found him to be intelligent with common sense. And a solid worker and excellent heel.
@@enriquestewart5762i see what you did right there....its a surprise that this one speaks well....
I always liked Bad News, he seems like a really decent guy...RIP Champ
He gave great and honest Shoot Interviews!
Bruh I legit didn't even know he died till just now
That sucks! Did he even get a chance to go into the hall of fame?
He gives an Ok shoot but what did he do in the WWE at least that'd justify getting into thier HOF?
@@mikedeck8381 A few wrestlers got into the HOF, not for what they did in the WWE, but for what they did in other territories.
@@mikedeck8381 are u kidding me?!
I read that this guy, Allen Coage ("Bad News Brown") won a bronze medal in Judo at the 1976 Olympics. Looks like he was a legit tough guy. RIP
76 Olympics. He also had two gold in the pan-am games.
And he was rocking a MAJOR fro at the time...
Also did ARSENIO HAL show
He was a legit tough guy he even punker Andre the giant once...
@@ricolewis2949 I used to have old magazines with him on the cover from the 70's at my grandparents house I loved martial arts as a kid whole time it was him.
He was great , and groundbreaking . He was the first heel to fight other heels . The first heel to distrust and badmouth heel managers . Bad News Brown belongs in the wwe hall of fame.
Absolutely he does ....Vince needs to do right by him
As a kid doing judo, I was already sold on him but he truly was a great heel. I'm happy that these interviews exist now that he's pased away and people get an insight in his personality. Fun fact, 20yrs ago he was doing commentating work with Stampede Wrestling with Mauro Ranallo, now known as the best combat commentator around (wrestling, MMA, boxing, kickboxing).
Mauro is NOT the best!
I grew up having this man call us all "beer bellied sharecroppers" and loved it! Lol
"All you spineless coackroaches out there!" - BNB
Funny this is 2005 and he said "was, because he screwed up the business" which 15 years later still holds true. 80's and 90's were excellent.
INSHA ALLAH YOU'LL LIKE THE NEW STORYLINES COMING OUT!!! TRULY ALLAH (SWT) CAN TURN EVEN THE WORST HEEL LIKE MR. MCMAHON INTO A BABYFACE.
Check out Bobby Herman 2000 wrestling is dead! 20 years ago he seen it coming!
Bad news brown was an WWF SUPERSTAR back in the 80's and 90's
Yes
@@vincemcmahonreadskoran3120 people only change when they submit to Christ not fear.
This guy truly scared me as a kid. He was a good heal.
Lol..... SAME!!
GREAT Heel
Such an amazing heel now that I look back on it. He scared the heck out of me too. I truly thought he was his character.
Were u all scared of him because he was black?
@@jrsmith1998 got em
I would listen to his stories for hours damn i wish there was like a documentary or shoot interviews just so i can just listen to all of his stories i never been a fan of his before but after watching countless video clips of him shooting on wwf I've now grown to be a fan of his afterwards damn i wish bad news was still here
lol I said something similar on the video about him and the Warrior, he's a good story teller.
he dead?
@@thethrillcollins yeah he died in 07 r.i.p BAD news
That's the difference between the oldskool wrestlers and the newskool wrestlers.. Love these old wrestler storys...
@@D-BRAZY damn, just saw that. Loved him way back when, the perfect heel.
I could listen to these stories for hours.
I ended up buying the whole video for that exact purpose.
I do. Lots of em. Haven't cared about wresting at all since 2000.. now it fascinates me. From the beginning, people rolling around like a circus of sorts, scheming on peoples money, to territorial leagues to the consolidation of territories into 2 big ones (sorta). Then the 2 become 1... it really is a magical story.. rowdy Roddy pipers life story was heart breaking. Dusty Rhosed being Gold Dust and Seven and his speech.. Sting ran a gym in Cali and ultimate warrior came by a few times, sting was looking into the wrestling business and took warrior as a partner. They only wanted sting but he wouldn't leave warrior. Who was an egotistical asshole.. so they took both.. so many amazing stories.. Kane was wrestling before he was kane... Ted debiose brought stone cold Austin, undertaker, and a bunch of legends... it amazes me having the stories of all these people who were in territories and then seeing how the company came together.. it really fascinates me..
It’s sad how Vince treated 95% of his wrestlers. Most of these guys just quit after 3-5 years. A couple of guys on top we’re making money and the rest were fighting for scrumbs and empty promises until they figured out the BS and left.
Maybe that’s just the natural cycle in that company. Or maybe it was just because he was that way
They never told Vince !
This guy seemed honest and believable unlike some other people. Seems like he was a really nice guy too. RIP.
I could've listened to Bad News Brown talk all day long. What a really cool guy.
@1:12 Do you see the masonic hand sign when talking about Vince killer McMahon 😳? New Jack did the same thing on Vlad TV when talking about how Vince has blood on his hands!
Bad News never aged. He was 62 in this shoot.
Damn really? Black don’t crack.
Looks mid 30s early 40s.
Incredible
@@dryan1387 I know. It's unreal.
Bad News Allen was the most bad ass wrestler of his day - legitimate toughness and was one of the best tough guys on the promo. Yet he seems like one of the best dudes of all the wrestlers.
Bad News Brown ...great performer . Seems to be a genuine honest guy . Wish I had the opportunity to meet him
The "Office Staff" consisted of Hulk Hogan.
no proof or fact
@Crazy Eights no. That's no reason for wwe shit products because of Hollywood writers hogan and cena knew how to create lined unlike YOU and the Hollywood writers who take no responsibility for your own failures fact bud
@@richardtaylor566 nah. Crazy Eights is right. Countless examples of Hogan putting his personal corporate entity (Hulk Hogan) above the wants of the fans, the public or even wrestling corporations... COUNTLESS examples... Shawn michaels just happened to be the most hilarious. 2005.. "Hogans whole life is a work" -kevin Nash.
Watch the "shoot" from the ultimate warrior. Hogan gave rookies drugs to keep em docile and him in control... Terry Boreis is a selfish person.. period. Likely worse than flair.. who is equated to a human trashbag. Horrible racist old men.. and I don't mean that in the new altered meaning kind of way. I mean literally.
I'm also totally accountable for my own actions and don't allow others to make decisions for me.. Hogan was selfish and ruined 2 companies for his own personal gain.. including the greatest underdog of all time.. MACHO MAN !!!
Hogan invited Elizabeth to live with him and his wife and got her drinking and on drugs. Which lead where it lead. I dont mean its his fault but influence isn't easily resisted by everyone. Ya know?
Hogan is a dirt bag. Its just true.
@@Vaga-Bard if it wasnt for hogan you or e what ever his damn name is would not have a wwe so no matter what your opinion is the facts are there without hogan its non existant hogan did what was best and proved right fuck what the drunk ass people want hogan knew best bottom line dip shit
in hindsight RF was pretty smart getting all these shoots around this period. Who would have known so many would be gone between 2005-2008
Was just thinking the same thing man
And even before that
So damn sad when you think about it. So many lives gone too soon.
:(
This man was Stone Cold before there was a Stone Cold.
Yeah i always thought that too...
Not even Dr' d David Shultz
Yea but he was the wrong color to be Stone Cold according to Vince.
Dr D David Schultz was the original Stone Cold.
amen to that!!!!
Sometimes i wish the internet existed in the 80's...just so i couldve given Bad News the respect he deserved back then when i had no idea of how great a guy he really was.
When Steve Austin first started the Stone Cold gimmick after he broke off from Ted DiBiase, I thought he was ripping off Bad News Brown's gimmick.
You're perceptive
Sturdy Torso Good Point!!
The man's sorry ass gimmicks as stunning steve and hollywood blondes shit wasn't working he had to reach and take from a real soul brotha that's how he got rich by "STEALING" others gimmicks.
@@terrywilliams3484 Seems like that is how a lot of people like STONE COLD do.
@@THATGUY-ir4ie You right and i guess his comments was for the new generation cause they don't know any better.
Bad News was one of the greatest heels of all time. He seemed like a good guy in real life too. I wish I would have met him.
One of the most authentic heels ever man. This man was stone cold in the ring.
Legit tough guy. Nobody messed with Bad News Brown.
He was Amazing as a heel, one of my favorites to watch as a kid.
This is cut from his shoot with RF video. It's almost 3 hours long and totally worth buying the whole thing, packed with great stories.
Bad News had a great line at the Royal Rumble draw. "Its good news, for Bad News".
R.I.P. bad news brown
Kona Krush
I love this mans interviews. You can tell he doesn’t bullshit. Would have been awesome to see him make a surprise royal rumble appearance.
I understand where he’s coming from; Hogan had clique & was a loner. But that’s a guaranteed way to fail in life. You must have allies & advocates. That’s a skill & an art and you must master it. Telling people off makes you feel good in moment or in retelling stories; but it ultimately leaves you bitter & angry
BNB seems so likeable that I didn't want this interview to end and his life....May he R.I.P. and I'm damn glad I got to witness this Man at work...
What guy pure love his style not to back down for anything absolute steamer full of guts. Rip alan bad news 🙏👍
For anyone that grew up watching WWF/WWE. I was quite young when Bad News Brown was working in WWF and from what I remember, he typically was a jobber, losing to almost everyone. This interview gives some great inside information on what happens to wrestlers in the business which some can relate to in their own lives. Sometimes we get promises but get sold short or just blatantly lied to. Screw you Vinnie Mac Jr, lol. I have new respect for Bad News. If I was a wrestler travelling around the country and globe, I would want someone like him as a friend, as he isn't full of BS and tells it how it is.
He was undefeated at one time in the WWE. He rarely lost to anyone while working there. Your facts are plainly wrong. You must be taking about SD Jones, (Special Delivery)
We need more heels like this. He legitimately scared me and plus he was actually a legit tough guy. Then again nowadays a heel like him won't work because he'd most likely get cheered.
Incredible. Rest in peace Brown
Bad News Brown was a stand up guy..... a rarity in pro wrestling today.
I was scared of Bad News Brown as a kid. And the Ghetto Blaster... what a finisher!
Lol, yeah imagine doing that in a street fight
2 years after this interview, Bad News would be gone... 63 is still kinda young.
OpinionsVary I didn't even know he'd passed. Very sad. When I was a kid BNB was just the best villain in the business, but years later you feel bad that he had so many promises unkept.
Congestive Heart failure.... He was my Uncle (My Mothers baby brother). March of 2007.
@@jneuss dam..sorry for your loss.
@@nestormarte817 You can add me on FB as Jeffrey G. Neuhaus. I can share some photos
@@jneuss as a black kid/teen watching wrestling he was one of my favorites in WWF. He was Stone Cold before Stone Cold. He had money written all over him. Vince should have pushed him to the moon. Easily one of WWE's greatest heels and that Ghettoblaster was one of the best finishers ever. I wish he was still with us. Seems like he was a great guy.
"If you shake his hand ,count your fingers"🤣🤣🤣
I can't see Vince putting the belt on Bad News cause of his physique and how many heels were champs in the 80's? The Sheik for like 3 weeks.
But bnb could have been a great ic champion
Savage for couple months after mega powers broke up.
Well spoken a true gentleman should have been champ rest in peace
Bad News could had been a huge mega heel if Vince used him the right way. Yet more wasted potential. RIP, BNB.
Yeah Bad brown could have been a great heel. That's not only wrestler Vince McMahon wasted. Vince has wasted many wrestlers including Sting, Barbarian, Renee Dupree, Big Show and Vader. The list goes on too
@@svuy9801 you can add SeanO'Haire to that list
Allen should have been a motivation speaker.
He's a natural and honest.
I believe what he said about Vince; snake in the grass
He was great. I believe he went under the name "Bad News Alan Coage'' when I first saw him in the early 80s. A man is only as good as his word. Vince really did, in my opinion, bring real wrestling fans down. Territories were great.
Looks like Bad News told VKM off in a classier way than Nailz...
Wrestlers that had financial disputes with Vince McMahon:
Bad News Brown
Ken Patera
Nailz
Kamala
Ultimate Warrior
Lex Luger
Bret Hart
Jesse Ventura
Rick Rude as well.
Warrior wanted more money than agreed and held him up for it.
I'm sure there are many many more that we just didn't hear about. Don't forget he underpaid Kamala for his entire WWF tenure.
Wrestlers with financials disputes with a promoter WOW like that is a rarity or unheard of!!
Vince became a billionaire by ripping off the wrestlers...
True...hell I remember watching raw one time in late 90s and Vince said "that the only reason i didn't fire stone cold Steve Austin is because he's making me rich".
Not just wrestlers , Everybody and he still is. He used wwe money to rebuild the xfl now hes screwing shareholders by selling it all to the rock for 10 cents on the dollar. He screwed his own father and both his kids.
Well majority of billionaires didnt get there by being generous.
That's any average business man
And fucked up the wrestling business in the process.
I used to love to hate this guy, but secretly rooted for him. My son thinks that "Sweet Chin Music" is original. LOL!!! I had to show him the Ghetto Blast!
Two totally different moves. Although of course Shawn didn't invent the superkick either.
Two completely different moves although Shawn didn’t invent the super kick as gentleman Chris Adams and others were doing it first
@@stewartmcrae8007 freakin Gentlemen Chris Adams...damn that name takes me back.
Ghetto Blaster was a kick in the back of the head Sweet Chin Music was a super kick.
Bad News always told it straight , the Ultimate Warrior was right with what he said about Vince and WWE trying to screw wrestlers over.
Remember some of his WWF promos where he would struggle not to laugh. Loved to watch his work and promos
R.I.P Bad News.. that was a really good interview AND no cursing he was a judo champion and competed in the 1976 Olympic Games in Montreal
I remember his promo for fighting Jake the Snake he said he was going to bring some rats from Harlem to eat that snake LoL 🤣 loved him
Yeah I remember at summerslam 90 he was meant to set his rats onto damian but he forgot all abt it
I really like this guy and love listening to his shoots.
I always wanted to meet Bad News, he was 1 of my favorites when you “weren’t” supposed to cheer the heel.
I love how everyone's VKM impression is exactly the same haha. Just deep, abrupt and comical.
BNB deserved more. I watched some of his stuff recently. Very underrated
I remember him as Bad News Allen, WWF watered his character down. Hell, they HAD to!
I think Bad News should of been a championship material in WWF
Bad News was a legit tough guy,tough as nails,very strong guy
"Cut the Crap. I am Sick of You Lying to Me. 'You're Right. I Didn't Keep My Word (Vince McMahon to Bad News Brown). I can't Believe You said that to Vince."
BNB always look bitter or pissssed about something..... now we know.
Dammmm mannn he was being ripped off all along.
His gimmick, angry black dude
His name was Bad News Allen. I'd be pissed to if idiots got my name wrong.
Does not seem bitter at all to me he just speaking facts
He looked bitter to YOU.. he was always a professional
@@andrik78 exactly.. it's always a backhanded comment
Omg.....amazing interview. Very charismatic telling what it was like getting screwed in WWF. Definitely was a clique old boys club.
I just like the name, Bad News Brown!
I use to love watching Bad New Brown on Stampede Wrestling!
Bad News Brown was one of my all time favorite bad guy wrestlers.
I didn't realise Bad News Brown died 16 years ago, this interview looks like it could've been like in 2013.
Same here I had to google it. It says he passed away in March of 2007 of a heart attack at the age of 63. He was such a good bad guy.
This guy was too real for the business. Great dude. I'm from NYC and I remember some MSG shows and he'd get on the house mic and talk about how he'd walked to the Garden from Harlem (a hell of a walk for anyone at any time but NYC was a little rough in those days especially in harlem and the vicinity of MSG up to times sq and the west village and east village have always been wild) and it was just great. Guy doesn't get enough credit I feel
Good times. I remember those promos. He was a bad man with legit heat.
Vince promised every wrestler that he had big plans for them. Then years later, Bruce Pritchard says they only heard what they wanted to hear.
Loved Bad News when I was a kid. I rooted for him because he was always mad.
Bad news shoulda been way bigger in wwf , he shoulda had a figure
The closest he got to being a champion if I remember was winning a battle royal (winning a trophy) and losing to Hulk Hogan for the title. He should've been a world champion at some point.
"If you put the strap on me and I don't want to give it back, fire me and make a new one" uh, that probably wouldn't be a great idea.
Bad news aged very well !
I like Allen. He seems like a real, straightforward kind of guy. We're sorely missing those in today's society.
Beside his great Judo skills, Bad News Brown was a real tough guy who challenged Andre the Giant in a real fight and wasn't intimated by Andre size ,after a bus argument. The giant didn't even went for the challenge and back off....RIP legend 🙏
I saw Bad News Brown, Allen (I forget his last name) outside the Maple Leaf Gardens as he was entering along with others before a wrestling event. When everyone saw him, they started booing him. He didn't say anything, he just gave a mean look.
Bad News Brown is 100% one of the best bad guys ever. I always wondered where he went. It's disappointing he ended up leaving because he could have made more money working at a grocery store. Vince McMahon truly did mess up the wrestling industry in the 21st century, which is ironic considering McMahon helped wrestling have one of it's Golden Eras in the 1980s.
Bad news was my favorite back then RIP
The world has been a lesser place since Bad News Brown died. What a great storyteller. A smart guy, great presence, good in ring performer - he would have been great at any point in wrestling history. He would have been perfect for the NWA in the 80's, but he also would have been great during the Attitude Era. He was timeless and above trends. He kind of had a Stone Cold thing going on, too (a badass who didn't like anyone). So great. And his potential was completely wasted by Vince. What a shame.
I liked Bad New Brown, he played one of the best bad guys!
I enjoyed Bad News for the most part. Some now claim he should have been champ, was underrated and so on. But some just are not meant to be the top name. Brown was versatile in that he could work just about anywhere on the card. I can’t imagine the top company putting him in charge of selling those tickets, though.
Bad news was a real one
Always get a promise in the form of a written contract.A hand shake no thanks I’ll take my business somewhere else.
Vince McMahon's father could do business on a handshake. With Vince McMahon, his word means nothing even if you have a written contract. See what happened to Oliver Luck with the XFL as an example.
@@Jim-Tuner FACTS! no wonder Scott Hall and Kevin Nash left for greener pastures and Bret making 400k a year didn't make things better.
he was one of my favourites in stampede wrestling back in the day
This dude is a phenomenal storyteller. I'm so sorry hes gone and being a wrestling fan since the 1970s is very upsetting because so many of the people I watched admired and looked up to are dead. Bad News Allen was 63 years old when he died and I'm 63 years old now. Being a wrestling fan for about 50 years has been very exciting for me but also very upsetting. Also upsetting how Vinny Mac and his family are billionaires several times over and they keep firing talent. That is disgusting. That would be like Warren Buffett or Bill Gates firing people. The McMahon's just got a billion dollars from the Peacock network they are set for the next 150 fucking years.
Still liked the name Bad News Allen better!!
Badnews was no fool he should be honored for his contribution to wrestling.
"Thank goodness you didn't open the door or 50 people would have fell"😂🤣😂
This guy is straight legit. Good post, thanks! FL US June 21
I don't mess around, cause it's always bad news, when you mess with bad news brown, this guys OG.
Love how bad news shoots straight I miss him he was a good wrestler
Not just good. He was litterally my favorite wrestler after he beat Bret Hart and junk yard dog during the royal rumble.
I don't doubt anything he said here
He was such an underrated talent....
I used to watch WWE on occasions, but I never heard of this guy. I can listen to him all day 🤓😊👌
Lol Bad News was the deal in the late 80’s to early nineties
I still remember when Bad News Brown doublecrossed Bret Hart at the Wrestlemania IV battle royal, leading to Hart's face turn.
Lmfao! "If you would have opened that door 50 guys would have fell in!!!" Vince is an embarrassment to his family and humanity!
Great interview allen👍👍
Bad News Brown was dope
Bad News was 36 in 1976 his first run was in 1978 it was short with Freddie Blassie as his manager he was in his late 40’s in his second run 1988 legit tough guy also had great cardio conditioning
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