Discover What Makes Yamaha HS8 Monitors the "BEST"!
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- Опубликовано: 25 сен 2024
- In this video, we're going to show you what makes Yamaha HS8 Studio Monitors the "BEST"!
Yamaha HS8 Studio Monitors are the perfect choice for singers, musicians, and all types of audio users. We'll explain why they're the best choice for your studio, and show you some of the features that make them so great.
So whether you're in the market for new studio monitors or you just want to see what the best options are, you need to watch this video! Yamaha HS8 Studio Monitors are the perfect choice for singers, musicians, and all audio users!
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I had a music equipment repair shop and I was an authorized Yamaha servicer. In the thirty years of working on pro audio gear, the best monitor speakers I encountered were the HS8. I was also a Mackie servicer and their monitor speakers were pretty nice too. But as a jazz pianist, I found the HS8 to be incredibly accurate in reproducing VST pianos.
The only drawback: once out of warranty they will be expensive to get repaired. If you blow the output ICs, they are hundreds of dollars. The drivers were rather pricey as well. Fortunately they are very reliable. I only worked on the HS8 two times.
Very nice report, Thank You!
They really are the best. Mine are 11 years old, and look and sound brand new.
To get the most out of them:
- Acoustic treatment (4 high quality 60x120cm rectangular bass traps can do a hell of a lot).
- Take them off your desk and put them on stands (I downsized my desk for this) (Make sure the stands aren't hollow and resonant. Also, teeth on the bottom of the stands are good)
- ISO Pucks under them for further separation (I'm still yet to compare to my decent foam pads to see if theres a huge difference though).
HS8 user here since 2007 :) one finally went bang and had to replace, Everyone says these are the best you can get for the price and I thought that but decided to try the Adam audio T8v's ......
and I feel stupid for keeping the Hs8's for so long. The T8V's are much clearer, so much detail, separation. Bass is clearer, it's still balanced. I honestly can't recommend anyone buy the HS8's anymore. It's like someone's pulled cotton wool out of my ears and I can hear again. and they are a similar price!
Are they the best monitor you can get, comparable to an $8K pair of ProAcs? Of course not.
Are they the best monitor you can get on a normal human budget? Absolutely, I think they are. Which is why they're sitting on top of my console 👍
They are certainly worth the price! Nicely done Yamaha!
Just order mine and I can't wait to hook up with it!
Wow! I hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoy mine!
@@tylerrayhughes I remain optimistic!
I know that feeling & I haven’t even ordered mine yet
Cool video. Are you planning on getting the HS8S subwoofer? I hear that pairing it with the HS7s/HS8s is a winning combo. I've had my HS8s for about 9+ years, and they still sound phenomenal. I'm currently considering purchasing the sub just to finish gathering all the infinity stones (audible frequencies), so to speak 😂. I just hope what the sub adds makes a justifiable world of difference to an already great pair of monitors.
Eventually, but not directly
I tried all the combinations and found the HS5 with the HS8 sub is the most accurate.HS8 alone the bass is to muddy.HS5 with the HS8 sub is very punchy and very articulate.
What crossover settings did you try using? I've just done mine to 80hz/80hz and it's cleared everything up significantly.
Another Yam fam fan here ! Thanks for the video. Without being picky, just to add little more accuracy to the NS10 comparison with HS Series. Those two are basically very different in technical terms, NS10 (except bass ported version NS10MT X,) were fully sealed design, passive monitors, unlike active bi-amped HS series, with bass ports located at the back. If not mistaken they share similar paper domes, with typically "dry" sound signature - I would say the smaller the HS version - the closer to the NS10 sound, but still very different. HS series were full new design based on Yamaha's legendary speaker legacy, (and well marketed connection with NS10), rather than technical redesign to offer new "NS10" sounding monitors. Fully agree about HS8 being phenomenal speaker fot the price (and even twice above), having very nice response, detail and translation. Many people blame the room acoustic defficiencies to the speakers, commenting on them as boomy, or harsh - the fact is, that this 8" inch box needs bit more room space and acoustic treatment, proper speaker isolation and good positioning - including enough space behind the speaker. Once this is out of question, there is probably not many as good monitors as HS8 in the respective price range. Despite wide offer on the market, I preferred Yammies over JBL308, Kali Audio LP8, Adam T8V, and Presonus Eris 8, which for the price I do consider as a good sounding and proffessional product, with all their pros and cons. In my opinion, HS8 sound better in many "studio monitor" aspects in comparison to the mentioned. Enjoy these !!!
Honestly i think speakers will always be subjective. Honestly, minus a few details, any decent speaker can be eq'ed to sound how you want them to. Nonetheless awesome vid and very good points you made!
thanks for that!
The real test is how close they get to what you hear in a nice set of headphones, period. I have the HS5s with the Yamaha subwoofer as well. Does not sizzle vs what I hear in my headphones. I’m thinking I should upgrade to the 8s, but don’t want to be disappointed. Thoughts on how they compare to your headphones?
If you are not happy with the 5s, check out IK MULTIMEDIA.
I agree with you on everything however the HS series all have ports.
yes ported they are.
HS7 with HS8S for me here and I have the best speakers for my PC room. They supplement my NS1000Ms in the listening room.
I bet that is a stellar rig! Used for gaming or music?
@@tylerrayhughes sixty year old here, purely afternoon jazz, classical and seventies and eighties rock, whats amazing is how the HS rise to the occasion playing Deep Purple or Pink Floyd apart from Dave Brubeck's Tave Five. The snares are deadly accurate and so is the drum handled brilliantly in synergy with the HS7 and HS8S woofers.
@@RoyFJ65 expert listener!
nice vid! I own there HS7 - and I miss bass with them. Also I think they are very hard to listen too, meaning they cause ear fatigue pretty quick.
Is it the same with the HS8? I consider switch to Presonus, Kali-Audio or maybe get a sub to my HS7's or the last option get the HS8 without subwoofer.
any thoughts on that? thank you in advance
What a great question! I am sorry to say that 100% the 8s cause less fatigue. The 6.5 comes in the 7 are a bit sweeter which is nice initially but certainly gets tough. I wouldn’t recommend getting 8s if you have 7s however. So many great options out there!
Yes, it is the same like with the HS7…straight up ear fatigue. Nothing good about this cheap Yamahas. Just because the woofer is white, they have nothing to do with NS10s.
Thank You for a better insight into a near future purchase of these monitors . My question is: Would purchasing a Yamaha subwoofer enhance the sound in any way , or are they fine on their own ?
Yes, absolutely
@tylerrayhughes I was told that if I was to purchase the 7's , a subwoofer would take them close to the 8's . But the 8's were fine without a sub ?... What are the perks of a sub for the 8's ?....Thanks Again
@@romemiller5349 mostly regarding budget. However, I would prefer to have 2 8s and no sub over 2 7s and a sub. I like having the 8s, it would be nice to also have a sub if I felt like
@@tylerrayhughes Oh, I def plan on getting a pair ! (8's)
@@romemiller5349 easy. Get the 8s. If you think something is missing, grab the sub. You can always return it.
i did the hs5's before. in retrospect they did the job that would be expected from the NS10, the main issue is that they don't even hint at what's going on in the bass area. since they need a sub, may as well go hs8 if you're going down the low fi speaker route.
Hi! I have two questions, is it needed for them to be used in pairs? (I only have one) and what would be the smallest interface with balanced outputs to conect these with a computer? Thanks incredibly in advance!!
you can get by with 1 no doubt! Id check into the Focusrite line of interfaces. Great stuff from beginner to professional
dude awesome video! I love your setup, I also just got the white HS8s. What desk do you have? I love thee size and the height of the monitors
It’s called Glorious Workbench. Lol. It looks great and works well! Fits the hs8 just fine!
Hey,Thanks for the vid. QUESTION! Hpow long have you had your white pair of HS8's? Also, are your yamahas still white like the day you purchased them or did the color start to change?
I’ve had them for about 3 years. Came white, and I haven’t noticed a change I color. They stay inside in a temperature controlled environment. Awesome monitors!
@@tylerrayhughes Nice, Thanks for the reply.
Any thoughts or experience on how the HS8s work in a small room (e.g., 100 sqrt)? Will they be too big?
Yes, get IK MTM
You say these are portless but they have a large port on the rear?
There is an HS8 vs Elac DBR62 Reference speakers direct comparison on YT. They sound almost identicle. Closer than any other comparisons I have heard. I am a big fan of Yamaha audio, and of Andrew Jones. My kind of performance. The prices are a steal compared to other overrated brands. Just my opinion. I love my Elacs with tube/class D amps or all-tube amps. Very natural sound with deep, clear bass, mids, highs. Never harsh.
Those look great! Never used them personally but I’ll keep them on my radar.
I noticed they are pretty close to the back wall. Do you use any of the "room control" switches? Cheers!
No I just keep em low
I have the HS5 and a new Rodecaster pro 2 but I'm having issues, they don't sound as good, so why? Do I need an interface?
Email me. I’ll hook you up. TylerRHughes@gmail.com
Do you notice any negative affects with the port facing the wall? I want to buy the hs5 but my setup will place the monitors close to the wall
You’ll be in better shape with the hs5 than the hs8 if you are close to the wall. I only get my speakers up about half way
Don't know if someone can help but I wonder wish is the best between the Yamaha hs8 space grey and the Hs7i. Look like apart the number of watts the only difference is on the frequency. That where my knowledge stop. The HS go 38 to 30khz and the HS7I go 55 to 23khz. I don't know what is better and this is the only point who make me hesitate.
Well hs7 has a 6.5 speaker instead of the 8 found in hs8. The I stands for installation, so
It comes with mounting points built in. There is a standard hs7 and hs7i
I had a pair of Yamaha HS - 80. Prefer them way over the current model. Nice to have dip switches. I find that the HS eights are a little bass heavy. I also recommend Kali audio
Nice note. I wish i would have gotten something completely different after all.
The Adam T8V's heavy compete with the HS8's in fact in some songs they sound almost identical. Currently about £100 more for the HS8's, I think it's all personal preference, some hate the sound of each speaker sets for different reasons and are also loved and praised by others
I like the adam stuff!
@@tylerrayhughes i don't
Hi , which speaker pad/spacers are you using?
Cheers
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what desk is that? it looks nice
Glorious Workbench! www.amazon.com/Glorious-Studio-Furniture-White-AMS-WORKBENCH-WHT/dp/B0036BIPXO/ref=asc_df_B0036BIPXO/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=563758605815&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=513701592432983738&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1025604&hvtargid=pla-517995020084&psc=1
Good one bro ...what aout the hs8i.....?????
The only difference is it’s comes with installation advantages hence the I
Unfortunatelly, I have to disagree. I bought a pair of HS8 around 3 years ago and every time I listened my mix in other systems, they sounded really different (even after I "calibrated" them with Sonarworks) and sounded like everything was "harsh" and upfront. Which tends to other problem I had: the sound stage never translated that well. The difference between loud and quiet, left and right, or as some of them say, the "3D Stereo Field" was kinda impossible to identify and position the elements in the music.
My solution was to buy another pair of monitors (in my case, I got the Kali LP6) and use the HS8 only as a Subwoofer (I made a crazy routing in my interface to make this work). By the way, If there's one thing I LOVED about the HS8 are the bass and the sub. They were really good for me in these low frequencies.
To wrap it up, it all depends on your preferences. The kind of sound you like to hear while produce/mix and what you NEED to hear in order to achieve your results.
Do you prefer rokits?
and sounded like everything was "harsh" and upfront - DURING PLAYBACK! Not in other systems. Important to make it clear
@@tylerrayhughes I've heard a pair of them in a friend's studio once, but I didn't tried to work with them. So the only thing I know is that they sound good, I don't know if they are good for mixing because of the smiley face curve people say they have. If they sounded good at first impression, maybe the smiley face is true (more highs and lows make the sound appear to sound better).
Do you like them? Or have any experience with them? I'm curious to know too
@@tylerrayhughes Hey, I didn't know that HS8 was somewhat inspired by the NS10, if NS10 sound like them (or they aimed to sound close to), I think I wouldn't mix very well on them lol
Great video btw, loved the quality and how you argumented you "pov". I'm actually sad for myself to have had a not-so-good experience with the HS8.
I have a friend that LOVES everythig about these monitors. I think it is all about preference, as I said previously.
@@raphabmroqueI found the hs8 they only sound good with rock and country but if you play modern Day music that has electronic sounds they leak a lot they are definitely showing its age. I really think they aren’t making any new ones any time soon
Would have been helpful to go through the settings in the back and when to use them. Room control, and high trim. Since you're reviewing the product anyway
I did test b4.
@andrescadabid3022 ah got it ill look for vid
I had a pair and did like them but went for something more neutral (German niche boutique product). They do NOT ssound ""absolutely neutral"! They do colour (albeit in a pleasing way) and make things sound bigger (which is a good thing if you have clients around that wouldn't be too excited about brutally honest monitors). Still good speakers, but probably no competition for some much pricier ones. Actually thinking of getting another pair as a "second opinion".
I really wish i would have just gotten something a bit smaller. I never do any mixing so i just need something for playback. These i cant turn up 25% of the way before the bass gets nuts because of my small room.
yamaha could get the ns10 Drivers because they made them but couldn't get the Pulp the cones were made from .
You're right they used all the trees up they were made from apparently.
I'm looking for a pair of studio monitors, but with no option to hear them for myself before buying, I'm left at the mercy of reviews and opinions. My use case is pleasure rather than business. I want a pair of studio monitors as reference speakers for playing guitar through an amp modeler, play around with plugins, amps sims, virtual instruments, and maybe create some songs just for fun. I'm not professionally mixing or mastering anything and just want something that sounds good for my use case. I'm in doubt between Yamaha HS7's/HS8's, Focal Alpha 65's, Dynaudio LYD-5's, Eve Audio SC205's... etc. What would you or anyone else recommend for a set of monitors that sound good if you wanna play with amp modelers and virtual instruments and plugins?
Get the hs7
I would imagine the top end is bumped down a notch for near field listening
The way they are positioned close to the wall gives you much more bass than what you are supposed to hear. I know cause I have the same problem for 4 years...
Certainly does. However i use them at a relatively low volume and never mix anything important on them. Honestly wasn't a great choice for my space. lol
I have no clue why youtube recommended this to me :D, but hey. Maybe these speakers are the best for you, but they aren't the "best" monitors for sure. They are good at showing you problems in your mixes early on, because they are saturated at the mid frequencies. But they also can decieve you if you aren't aware that they are somewhat coloring the spectrum more, than other studio monitors. I think if you are looking for a new pair of monitor speakers, just try out as much as possible, if you can try them out where you will be mixing or mastering that's awesome. Don't listen to anybody, only yourself and your ears. If you are on a tight budget, yes you can easily get great two way speakers, but mainly three way/or more speakers will give you hell of a lot bigger/wider stereo field and separation.
I’m looking to upgrade for sure.
my journey: Mackie mr5 to Presonus E8, to Yamaha HS8... I couldn't be happier. Focal alpha80 evo are next my list.
They may be a little big for what I need. I bet the 7s would be perfect.
The sound is as good as your ear can hear
They are good for creating not the Best by a Long Shot... I just Setup the New ADAM AUDIO A7Vs 👌🏽 still need to burn them in .
Can we connect it to an iPhone with Bluetooth ?
no
It's better then tannoy gold 8?
Yes considerably better.
I don’t know about this review. You just state that these speakers are the most accurate without backing it up with any kind of proof, measurements or comparisons. I really like the Yamaha brand and I’m thinking of getting these, but nothing in your review pointed me in either direction.
Just a collection of thoughts, not a review.
The HS8 are great. Especially with the HS8S. This subwoofer knocks your socks off. In fact, I have to back it off some because it drives the misses crazy. Lol.
I thought about getting the 8s but opted out. I bet it’s very nice!
They are okay they are outdated rock and country sounds good but others don’t sound that good you can tell they are aging
ive had the sub and it sucked real bad actually smelled it burning up and then returned it
@@bobdimartino6738 Wow! I haven't had that experience yet. I did recently determine that I had a bad XLR cable. This had caused some clarity and volume issues on one side. That's what made me dig deeper.
I've since replaced both XLR cables and they sound great. Just a thought. thanks
@@periloustactic it didn't bow but over heated i noticed it sounded like it was canceling out and i could hear a vibration i flipped it over and checked the screws and they weren't even tight so i tightened everything up and it sounded better but i still returned it because there was very little real low end.i owned the s8s and sold them"regreted it before i even sold them they sound real good) but i just noticed they went down to 600 for the pair so i ordered a set last night from GC
Honestly the NS10 sounds kinda crappy but that's exactly why I love them. If you manage to get your mix right on these it will work everywhere.
Haven't really had the chance to listen to the hs8 but I did have the chance to get quite familiar with the neumann kh80 and these things are mad! Sadly bit out of my budget but I loved every second I got to spend with them. Rulerflat is almost not doing them justice!
That’s awesome. My only experience with ns10s are from what dad was working on when I was growing up. Just can’t get the picture of them out of my head. I’ll definitely check out the kh80!
@@tylerrayhughes the 10s are truly iconic, no doubt!
how much power do they use if no music is being played on them?
Because it's annoying having to turn the switch off before going bed
I have my connected to a power distro that shuts of many things 1 with switch.
@@tylerrayhughes cool thanks
Not sure if perfect accuracy is what you are looking for in the studio. Most equipment does smear, cross modulate, ring and ... well, generally hide the subtle details; details you might want to be at least notably present even on some sub $200 earbuds or a cheapish BT speaker.
On the other hand, producing for clubs it makes accuracy total sense.
I listen to my mixes through 3 different sources after I get my first mix on my Yamahas. I always listen on AirPods, a jbl BT speaker, and also my phone audio! Phone audio may be the most important. I actually created a eq curve that I apply to my Yamahas when I and creating shorts specifically!
@@tylerrayhughes Very good practice. Especially the part where you mix with your audience in mind.
bruh, i think he forgot to mention, that the ns10s were so well-known, because they were so bad: when you could get a good mix on these, your mix would have sound good anywhere. Kind of the opposite of "get the most accuarte sound" I think.
looking forward to your video about it!
4:01? Portless design…? Excuse me?!
please don't hurt me
Imho, the HS 7 does sound much more like the NS10
I paid $500 for used pair of HS8, perfect state used by other producer for 3 years.
The real question is....white or black! The white looks fantastic, but the black would blend in to the background.
I bought the desk white first so white it was! I have black at the church!
@@tylerrayhughes Looks great. I'm looking to pick these or Dynaudio BM5s/Kali IN-8s. I got Focal Evo 65s and there is a distinct distortion/crackling with certain solo piano chords/runs in the lower register. The crackling will not go away, regardless of cables, positioning, etc.
It's unfortunate, because otherwise they sound great.
@@tylerrayhughes I appreciate the reply!
It’s funny when RUclipsrs play music through speakers to imply we can tell whether the speakers are good or not. Btw these speakers are more than 8 years old.
Haha! Way to miss the disclaimer before that section.
I have a Macbook Pro with very bright speakers I can hear the difference between speakers. Macbook Pro's have very good speakers for laptops, especially n the bright top end.
I prefer the Yamaha HS8 and the Edifier 2750
HS8 have almost no low end, impossible to hear, not much for detail compared to higher end speakers, these are entry level speakers
Well you could argue that the Sony MDR 7506 are entry level as well. But guess what? Both these monitors and those Sony headphones are used everywhere
Treat your room sir/ma😏
@JustPlayitc00l where's pictures of your studio ? Do you even have one ? And no that cheap ass thin foam you randomly stuck on the walls is not good enough 😒
@@guitarz99 😆 🤣 😂
I won't even dignify that with a response...
@@JustPlayitc00l I'm right ...
Well, I guess go and tell that to many many many successul producers/engineers making great music & top notch sound on Yammies HS8. So if you know something those guys do not, it would be nice to share it with the world, or kindly move on. Saying HS8 sucks, without any reasoning, most probably without any experience with these, or providing any alternative to the monitor, where your real life experience actually brings any kind of insight, or anything useful in that regard - in sum gives your opinion zero validity. Now would that accidentally correlate with your experience and credits in general, not a surprise !
Who said hs8 sucks?
Not you : )
The Best? No way! Ever heard from ATC, Neumann, Adam, Barefoot…
HS series is one of the worst monitors, sorry. They sound like their is a towel in front of them. Even in the price range of the HS8 are way better monitors on the market.
Sounds like you love them!
@@tylerrayhughesSounds like Yamaha pays you money.
When you tell people that the HS8 are the „best“ monitors, I want to know what monitors you also tested in the past?
@@cheopz_official oh yeah dude. They sent me 4 sets on them to try out then they pay me every time I say Yamaha.
@@tylerrayhughesThis or you know nothing about monitor speakers. So which speakers you compared to the HS (beside KRKs) that you tell people they are the best? 😆
Btw…I owned Alesis, Yamaha HS80m, Adam A7X with Sub, Neumann KH310s, Avantone Mixcubes, Behritones and others.
@@cheopz_official you have so much gear and experience that you have just finished your first EP! HOORAY!
👍👍👏
Yamaha has not been "the pinnacle of sound-reproducing studio monitors." They made a shitty-sounding home stereo speaker that, by accident, and due to its imperfections, just happened to be good as a mixing reference.
I didn’t say they did it on purpose. However, ns10s will go down in history. Thanks for watching the video!
When you say the best you mean if your broke
You’re broke
@@tylerrayhughes lol I own land in Jamaica own two houses never went to school and i retire at 37 am 30 now I own studios in UK and sound systems if your in UK and need work holla
@@allwayzactive4599 I’ll take some work. Send me some tracks
@@tylerrayhughes send me a link to some of your work pal
@@allwayzactive4599 THC business más be booming
keep dreaming
Another troll
I had a pair of Yamaha HS - 80 monitors before they came out with the HS -8.
Worlds of difference.
The HS-8 have a terrible general feel unless you’re DJing
Im looking for something better for my setup soon.