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Every once in a while you find a reviewer that understands what we want from a video like this. Straight to the point, carefully opinionated and concise. Thank you! Will likely grab a T7V since my room size aint that big.
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I know these are built to mix, but would you say they can double as speakers to listen to music that is already mastered? I’ve been hearing mixed review as to if these sound too flat to play music casually.
@@lukeesham2562 Hi, these are reference monitors intended for mixing and mastering. Their sole purpose is to play back the music as neutral as possible, and with as good audio quality as possible. They are also nearfield monitors, so they're not as effective at angles compared to general HIFI speakers. HIFI speakers often tend to sound different, or "better" according to many because they do not play back the sound in a neutral manner. They typically amplify certain frequency regions, to try and make the low-end sound better and so on. So it can be a bit misleading. If the bass becomes louder on a HIFI speaker, it will usually sound better because "louder" always sounds better to humans. On the other hand, if you want to experience music the exact way that the original composer intended it, then you'll get the most realistic experience with studio monitors like this. They also have built in amplifiers so you won't have to think about that. They will require you to sit right in front of them (the golden triangle) to get a good listening experience though. So, there are pros and cons when it comes to using these as hi-fi speakers for casual music listening. Some really enjoy studio monitors, and others think of them as flat and more "boring" . The truth is that they represent music exactly as it "is", and it is the hifi speakers that actually "adds" something to the sound, making them sound more exiting (most of the time). :)
@@lukeesham2562 i know there are better and expensive Monitors like focal, Adam, Dynaudio, but i use everyday for hours and hours the hs8's in casual listening (spotify, youtube, you name it) and not seems to need another pair, and never had ear fatigue
unbelievable review, straight to the point, very very static, which is superb and so to the point. you didnt miss a beat, and your narration style is perfectly balanced, i didnt even get tired listening....so in a sense you're more like the T8V but also offered great midrange tone, so also like the HS8. Thanks for providing straight to the point content not like other reviewers outhere that drain the hell out of the listeners to give little. You said enough and gave plenty!! I love your last sentence : People have dissimilar hearing, which mean that different people will always prefer one over the other, very true in the audio world.
Adam has very good upper range as expected from its tweeters but overall I prefer the Yamaha's due to its balanced natural sound. I personally use the HS7 with HS8S sub that works out quite good. Very nice balanced review.
First i buy the HS7. I missed low end. Them i decide to drive to the biggest music store and hear 20-30 monitors side by side. And i figuer out that tha yamahas have a mid range overboost. The adam more linear. Also the the adam ribbon tweeter is a whole class over the yamahas. I bought the adam t8v and the are way more better than the Yamahas.
Good for you then! T8V are great monitor for a price, same goes with Yamaha HS8 which were my choice and preference over Adam T8V, while in the end we both get what we pay for : )))
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Hi there, thanks! Glad to hear that you've found the content useful! 😊 There are so many large channels out there these daya, it's not easy to find small channels like this :)
My first pair of speakers were a pair of Eris 3.5s and I quickly learned that's way too small to do anything with the low end. Was looking to upgrade and might get a pair of Adam t8vs. Love the review!
Glad you liked the review! Indeed, It's difficult to mix low-end on such small monitors, that's for sure. The 8" makes it much easier. Anything larger than that and you'll start to degrade the mid-range, unless it's a 3 way setup. The T8V and the HS8 are among the best 8" monitors you can get in this price range. :)
Hi, thanks! I always post-process the audio with EQ, compression, etc to make it as good as possible. I don't just record straight on top of the video. It's a bit more time consuming, but I always try to go by quality over quantity :)
Have been using HS8's for sometime. I share your practice of keeping the volume at the 50% point and never ever had a need for more volume. I did experiment with other settings but found this was the best position for more-than-enough volume and clarity. The low end on these is great, and the overall musicality is exceptional. I consider them a great overall value. Yamaha has been a reliable technology vendor for me since my teen years in the 1970s. I am about to buy HS5 to offer a smaller option in the same room. Thanks for this video.
In my opinion all speakers should be flat (no matter what kind) and flavouring should be applied through an equalizer that is either separate or inside the amp's DSP. The reason is that every room has a different acoustic, and thus it is easier to dial in your preference if you can use a flat base as a starting point rather than having to figure out the frequency response of the speaker first. Which depending on how much range the equalizer has might not even be correctable.
I use the Yamaha hs5, as I have a small room. I use always use ATR70x open back headphones, they are very light and I literally feel like I’m listening to my speakers as they are open back, very natural. They have a very flat midrange, one of the flattest in the game. My mixes truly started translating. As they are open back headphones their low end rolls off around 100-90HZ, I use Dt770 pros closed back to really check the lowend. I don’t know if it’s my skills which developed or my listening medium that drastically improved my mixes. Id say it’s a bit of both.
This was one of the best explanations and discussions about studio monitors - thx! I am in the market for some and its not easy... I want dual use. To be able to create backing tracks and then play guitar along to them - all at home
I was eager to get the T8 V but after listening to HS 8...i deicided to go for HS...sounds rock solid.. as at present using the Msp 5 for 18 yrs...wow...pieces of rolling stones.
Mann this video shows very well how big 8' monitors actually are, it's almost scary haha! so hard to decide on what to buy! I also have the RCF ayra pro on the list.
I use Avantones for midrange. The speed in dialing clarity I achieved on the first mix I did on them, was night and day. That mix was originally done on 2-way speakers and I thought it was clear enough then but it took a lot longer. They exist for a very good reason.
@@wapanglemdur If you're only producing mono tracks, then you only need one. I use two because, although I do mix in mono and technically I could use one, I still need to mix for stereo systems and these speakers are superior for making sure the midrange is in phase and clear while in stero mode. So, having only one is not a solution for me. If you want to use one and then guess if your midrange is clear on your normal stereo 2-ways...go for it. I can't work like that.
T8v for the win.When I tried them both I falled in love with the sound of the t8v.(t8v is probably the most accurate speaker in this price range)Probably if I had more money I would have bought adam s3v or a8x,or something from APS.Although yamaha is very good it just cant beat adam audio.
The Adams are great. People seem to have a kind of love hate relationship with ribbon tweeters. Some love them and others can't stand them. We all have very different hearing so people will never agree on what's "best". Personally I can't really make up my mind when it comes to these two. They're both very good in their own way. I prefer the low mids on the Yamaha's, but I also really like the Adam's clarity in the highs. I think both of these are among the best you can get for the price.
@@lisaredsatl2571 On paper the T8V is louder but in reality, you won't notice much difference. They can both play loud enough to damage your hearing, so you should never push them to the limit. It would be best if you always mixed on reasonably low volume, and only increase it every now and then to check the low-end, etc.
I have seen order channels, but trust me this is the best channel I have come across, #1. Bro you are doing an excellent job. Can't wait for you to release the videos. I would like you to do a video, on actually mixing and mastering a full song. Thanks
Hs8 for more accurate reproduction, t8v for that hifi hyped sound. I used to use hs7's which weren't the best, but in the 8 inch range for budget speakers it's definitely gotta be Yamaha. 💯 Great comparison video 👍🏿
*HS8s* 100db Max SPL 120W (75/45) 38Hz - 30KHz Frequency Response. (Anything above 18KHz isn't going to be heard by most adults) *800* *Dollars* (pair) *T8V* 118db Max SPL 90W (70/20) 35Hz - 25KHz Frequency Response. (Anything above 18KHz isn't going to be heard by most adults) *600* *Dollars* (pair)
Thanks for the review. I am presently looked for some new monitor speakers. As for having a notched volume knob, I saw a test of a set of monitor speakers with that type of knob where even though the knobs were set to the same notch, the speakers where not at the same volume level when tested.
Thx for mentioning the Kali Audio! I have been on thomann for years but I've never looked at this brand! I think I will try this one Kali Audio IN8 v2!
Always the high crossover frequence of the adam is named as a problem. But this isn't so. Hear them and you will hear that this is only a theoretical argumentation.
@@thomasfroland762 While it is possible to mix solely on headphones, I still recommend having monitors too. Check out this video: Headphones VS Monitors - What's best for mixing: ruclips.net/video/ifwb_qKQNhU/видео.html
It matters what the response curve within the stated range is. 33hz for 1 speaker could be 6db down from flat response and another could be 40hz at 3db down. THAT determines how there would be sonic differences. I'll take the Audioengine A5 for my 10 x 12 bedroom ty. From what I have gleaned... the weakness of ribbon tweeters is dispersion width and having to position them directly, on either side, at the sweetspot you want.
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I had the T7Vs Adams and sent it back after 5 days. I couldnt handle the boomy bass from them. I bought then the HS8s and I love them!!! Bigger bass, less boomy, more clarity!!
The T8V sounds very different from the T7V. Likewise, the T7V can't be compared to the HS8. That increase in woofer size really makes a huge difference to the fullness of the sound. The thing about ribbon tweeters though is that people either love it or hate it. :) It just goes to show how different hearing we all have, and how differently we perceive sound. By the way, I have a rather interesting video about that here: ruclips.net/video/FaDhBq598kA/видео.html It's fun to see how some people hear one thing and others something completely different. I suppose it's that way with studio monitors too. Some will say a particular monitor is boomy, some will say it's too thin. The most important thing is that you find something that you are happy with, and that works well in your particular room. You need something that you feel is working with you, not against you, so if something doesn't feel right, try something else. That's the right approach :)
I am totally willing to pay the extra for the HS8, but I have a tiny room for music making and think the extra bass may be more of a problem than an asset. I think I'm going for the HS5s as a result!
I read that someone else was worried about the boomy bass in a small room, but he had no problem as he kept the speakers on volume notch 2 usually and had great sound
@@lundsweden if it works for you then that's what is important. It's just speaker size for room size is a myth. For your information. It's wattage that is important. The larger the speaker the higher the wattage which equals less distortion. You can run an 8" speaker at the same volume as a 5" speaker but get a much clearer image because there is less cone distortion, not to mention the frequency range. If you can't hear it you can't engineer it.
People have very different hearing so we're all going to prefer different monitors. :) Both of these are very good, but some people prefer the HS8 and some the T8V. I recommend that you listen to both before you make up your own mind. Don't just listen to what any one person says, because your experience might be very different. :) Here's a good example of how different hearing we all actually have: ruclips.net/video/FaDhBq598kA/видео.html
SPAN is a good plugin if you only got small speakers to mix with. Mixing with your eyes can be done if you know what to do, but it can sure as hell also wreck your mix if you don't know how :P
Indeed! Visual aids can be very helpful, but only as a reference. I always recommend that people trust their ears first and foremost, but you can't always trust them fully due to room acoustics and so on, so visual aids can be a good complement to help you out. It's like with food. A famous chef once said that that you also eat with your eyes. If it looks good, then it tastes better too. :) So I'd say you need to make sure that it sounds good first, and then double-check with visual aids to make sure that what you hear is "correct" :)
I would not recommend either model based on current prices. I listened to the Yamahas and Adams and tested the Presonus r80 as a third reference. The R80s have much better midrange imaging than the Adam t8V and have equally fine resolution. I found the yamahas to be tiring in the upper mids and not as strong in the top end.
Hi , I would like to hear your opinnion as an expert for more to listening to music and less mixing monitor as a suggestion to me. Thanks for the videos btw.
Placement should be ideal for that room, which was way too small btw. It was just a temporary room I used while I built my current studio, so they ended up in the corner, which isn't ideal. The angles were right though, and the tweeter was the same height as my ears, etc. That's the most important thing. You want to align it as a triangle, with an equal distance between each monitor and the length from each monitor and to you.
How about the HS8 vs T7V for listening only? You mentioned the mids smoothness of the T7V over the 8 so not sure how the mids of the 7 compare with the HS8.
Has anyone used the Adam Audio T8V for Helix and Guitar? I've heard the Yamaha and wanted to know more about the Adam speakers. Are they worth the extra money?
I've had a pair of these for about 8 years and they have proved to be fantastic as near field monitors. They are on for hours and hours on end and are not fatiguing. My reference monitors are Bowers and Wilkins 802's which are obviously at a different level and I use these for critical listening, but the Yamahas give you the information you need to make recording and mixing decisions.
@@bren.r I had a pair of HS8's. I upgraded to Adam A77X which are double front ported horizontal 3 ways with the X-Art tweeters, but the HS8's are not to be underestimated. Not in the same class as the A77X's but they are not humiliated.
@@spicecrop high end boost is bad on the t8vs yamaha’s hs8 has the best midrange for this price range and also better low end clarity. the depth is huge.
Thank you for this video! I think my biggest problem right now is determining if my room is the right size for either one. I currently have HS7's and don't feel like they're cutting it.
I still don’t know which monitors to buy, actually I need monitors that have very clean Low end… and very accurate sound, best in EQ range 20hz to 30khz .. someone some advice?
You'll have all the low-end you need from the sub so if you're after maximum clarity then that might not be a good idea. It depends on your room size though. If you have a medium large room then I would consider the T8V anyways. The difference in terms of clarity is rather minor really, and personally I think the low-end response makes up for it, and it's also often easier to mix with larger main monitors rather than having to rely on a subwoofer, as you'll get a more realistic result with the main monitors. With the sub you also have to factor in issues with ideal placement, getting the level synced perfectly and so on.
I have found a pair of adam t7vs and yamaha hs8s for a very similar price, and I often produce dance/edm music [and sometimes trap] - which one should I go for?
The thing that annoys me with the T8V is that they've probably saved a few cents per monitor by not having notched volume knobs -- the T8Vs not even at 0dB.
For my dj sets i have them f7s and sub7 and for my productions the s2vs tried yamahas never gel with their flat but guess it works for many others. On a side note on affordable monitors i tried them monkey bananas turbo8s and i was extreme impressed by their poweful low end response
I have just recently downgraded my studio stuff my previous monitors were the kh120a and the hs7 i found a very good deal on the adam t7v so i thought id see what all the good reviews were about and honestly i am blown away! they sound miles better than the hs7, hs7 give me headaches lol they are comparable to the kh120a i am not saying they are better by all means but i do not regret downgrading, im not going to talk frequency's but I'm going to talk about what i am hearing best way to compare the kh120a to the adam tv7 is adams sound a bit more coloured/hifi but they are picking up everything i hear on the kh120a, kh120a sound more neutral sorry im rambling about other monitors lol but my point is the adams are amazing, they should be 2x more! the main bad side is the led indicator is at the back etc but great monitors well done adam! by the way guys this is my opinion we all have different ears lol
heya i hope that you are doing fine i want to purchase studio monitors... but i am confused between HS8 and T7V here in india HS8 are cheaper than T7V HS8 costs around 301$ and T7V around 335$ (for each) which in indian currency is a big difference. I am getting HS 8 at lower price then T7V but I have also heard that Adams are better than yamahas so IS IT worth buying costly smaller size monitor or should i go for HS8 PLEASE SUGGEST
I don't know what kind of music you make, but assuming you make EDM and bass-heavy music in general, then I would go for the HS8 if I were you. If you produce classical music or something, and clarity is the most important thing, then the T7V would probably be the best choice.
Thanks for comparison!! Do you think it might be worth spending more than twice as much for A7Vs? Or do you think the jump in performance from T7Vs to A7Vs is not worth the price increase?
If you can afford it then go for the A7V. It's a whole different beast and a huge difference in clarity and balance. The T series is a budget monitor, and it sounds like a budget monitor too,. They all do. When taking that next step up to the A series, which is somewhere in between budget monitors and high-end monitors, you'll notice a huge improvement in clarity and balance. I recommend that you check out my review of tte A7V here on my channel.
To "hear" them somewhere, in a room one does not know, without an experience working with either of these in the question, hardly qualifies the preference as "better" buy. It simply states, that you liked one of them better. Nothing wrong with that. But that is all.
Hi, I haven't seen any fake ones where I live so it's hard to say. If you buy them from a reputable company then i think you should be fairly safe. If you fear that you have a fake one then I would suggest contacting Yamaha and provide them with the serial number on the back to make sure.
I use a pair of Yamaha HS8 since 4 years and I'm realy happy with them. It's unfortunate Adam Audio doesn't make "T8H", H, for an horizontal positioning. On my side the possibilty to put the monitors horizontaly or not is a deal breaker, they have to be horizontal in my current studio setup.
@@kennylux Yes and No..😏. As their tweeters' waveguides are round, same shape on 360° all around, you can listen to them in any position, the distribution of the high frequencies will not be affected. BUT You are perfectly right, Yamaha recommends to put them verticaly for cooling reasons (The location of the inner amp components and the shape of the heater behind. It makes sens). On my side I've no choice than put them horizontaly.🥴
What I like about Adam Audios budget monitors is that they don't put anything in there that's not 100% necessary. No fancy LCD displays on the back, no illuminated logo, no notched volume control etc. Instead they've focused all their energy (and money) on making them sound as good as possible. You get what you pay for :)
It's a much smaller speaker so they're not directly comparable to the 8" HS8 and T8V. It would be more comparable to the T5V and the HS5. That said, I find them to be surprisingly well balanced, and I actually prefer the pioneers to 5" Rokits for example, which I've always found to be a little bit too low-end heavy and colored. I think both the HS5 and the T5V provides slightly better sound quality overall, but they are also more expensive.
Hi, reference monitors like these are very flat and they are also nearfield monitors, so you kind of have to sit in that "triangle" in order to make them sound good. HIFI speakers are much wider and will usually sweeten up the sound a bit too (which is obviously not ideal for a mix engineer). When it comes to hifi speakers it's down to personal taste really. What I like someone else might hate and vice versa. I like DALI speakers myself. Good sound and not terribly expensive.
@@FireWalkMusic Do you think it might be worth spending more than twice as much for A7Vs? Or do you think the jump in performance from T7Vs to A7Vs is not worth the price increase?🤔
Hi, I decided against this because the audio will be heavily influenced by my microphone and my room. Furthermore, when you playback the audio it will be further colored by whatever monitor or headphones you use to play it back. It can never sound any better or worse than whatever equipment you play it back on. I've experimented with this in the past and often times the sound ends up sounding nothing like the real thing, and I didn't want anyone to get the wrong impression.
@@FireWalkMusic okay, it makes sense. Perhaps a more scientific approach using software may be helpful. I find studio monitors comparison quite problematic since they will be colored y the room. And also most of the time people do the review for a RUclips video without actually calibrating the speakers as recommended by the manufacturer and spending months mixing with it. Thanks anyway for getting back to me 😎🤓
Adam T8V's controls on the back panel are real basic. Not sure if this thing has an auto power daving / auto off feature, and if it does, can it be defeated, i.e. switched off? Also, Adam Audio had somehow "forgot" to include a 1/4-inch TRS balanced input jack. How weird is that -- considering that 99% of the studio monitor controllers use 1/4-inch TRS and not XLR. Whatever. I guess that is all that USD $300 will buy you these days.
They are indeed quite basic. I talked to Adam Audio about the features of the T-series a while back and they explained that they placed all their attention and focus on the sound quality. They wanted to make a budget monitor that sounds great. As was said in the video too, you don't typically see ribbon tweeters in this price range, because they are so expensive to make. So, in order to get the price as low as it is, they had to sacrifice anything that's not 100% needed, such as fancy LCD panels on the back, illuminated logo in the front, additional inputs and outputs etc. There is no auto on / off feature either, and that's the case with the HS8 as well. In my experience though, that's perfectly OK. A lot of people find that function annoying, especially when it can't be manually disabled. Personally I think all this is an acceptable compromise, unless you really really need some of those inputs / outputs etc. Personally I prefer balanced XLR over pure TRS cables, like this for example: geni.us/monoprice104761 They're TRS in one end and XLR in the other. You get what you pay for, and in this case you pay for superior sound quality. I think people should always aim for the best possible sound quality first and foremost. These won't sound as good as a pair of $20000 monitors of course, but they definitely offer some of the best sound quality you can get within this price range. :)
It's tricky because good headphones go well below even expensive studio monitors, but the bookshelves most consumers use might start at 80hz. Older people might have old wooden speakers going down to 40hz if they have a half decent brand. So who do I mix for? Headphones doing 20 to 20K or their crappy bookshelves starting at 80? My theory is, bookshelf speakers are crap, but they don't want to store and ship big wooden speakers anymore so you spend a lot for speakers with the low end of an average Fischer, JBL, Technics of old. Some with large bass reflex, horns, mids. But hey, plastic and metal boxes are cheap to put on a truck or warehouse. My Rokit 5 Gen 4 could easily be replaced by getting a decent pair of 80s or 90s speakers off craigslist. Old speakers that can do 40Hz to 20K are a dime a dozen.
The problem with bass and low frequencies is that we're not very sensitive to low frequencies. The lower the frequency, the less sensitive our hearing is to it. It's not like we hear all the way down to 20 hz, and then it just cuts off. Our sensitivity actually, start rolling off gradually from around 900 Hz. We therefore tend to "feel" the bass more than we hear it, and you obviously won't get that sense with headphones. You'll get a much better sense of it with studio monitors, even 5" will be better in that regard, but 8" that goes down to 35 Hz or so will be the best of course. If you could also add a subwoofer than that would be ideal. I don't recommend using standard hifi speakers for mixing and mastering. The reason for that is that they will sweeten the mix, while dedicated studio monitors (even cheaper ones) have a flat frequency response, which allows you to hear the music like it actually is, without any sugarcoating. Imagine mixing on hifi speakers, and then they add a 1,5 dB boost in the 80 Hz region. You'll think that kick is sitting perfectly in the mix, so you finish the mix and upload it. A few days later you hear it somewhere else and find out that the kick is severely lacking in the 80 Hz region. If you have some big hifi speakers with great low-end extension then you can of course use those in combination with small cheaper studio monitors, and switch back and forth to get a sense of it. I recommend using both headphones and monitors when mixing. I have some really expensive professional monitors that I use, but I also have some cheaper, but larger monitors that I use just to get a sense of the bass response. I also use headphones as I go, just to verify that everything sounds good on headphones too. You always want to make a mix that sounds good on everything :)
@@FireWalkMusic True, regardless of frequency range, even good home speakers were probably made with a V shape rather than flat response where reference speakers, like studio headphones were designed not to boost anything. But I find massive differences in those headphones. To me, DT770 doesn't have much bass. Pro 280 and ATHM40X have too much and sound very different than the 770s. So I record on MDR7506 because they seem fairly middle ground. Oddly enough I noticed Rockville M50s are also fairly evenly boosted, even if they seem to add a little distortion. But I suppose I have to use the 770s as the standard. I just suspect they are cutting low end. Just got Samson DR850s and Philips 9500 but my favorite headphones now are Superlux 681. They are amazing.
@@FireWalkMusic I just heard a bunch of Adam, M-Audio, Yamaha and JBL at Guitar Center. I have to say the Adam Audio blew my doors off. Either as reference or home listening both the low and high frequencies were clear and gorgeous. They are on my radar now. They are competing with Yamaha for reference speakers and have only been around about 20 years. Impressive.
Nice! I Can’t decide between the tv8, the hs8 and the new kali in 8 v2. Out of these two in the video, which one handles port noise better? Meaning which one has less audible air turbulence when pushed at louder levels?
Studio monitors are often a very personal thing. We all have different hearing and some people will always prefer one over the other, regardless of the specifications. Some really love ribbon tweeters and some hate them, I recommend that you go to a store and listen to all of them before you make up your mind. These two are my own personal favorites. Regarding port noise, there's no noticeable difference. The diameter of the port is pretty much the same. The important thing when it comes to rear-ported monitors is to try and avoid pushing it right into the rear wall or a corner. As long as you have a little bit of space behind it then it usually won't be a problem. Because you'll have cables sticking out back there, it's going to be impossible to get it all the way back towards the wall anyways, and as long as you have some distance this usually won't be any problem at all. :)
@@FireWalkMusic I agree with everything you said, these two are great studio monitors and it’s hard to choose. Best thing to do is like you said go to the store and listen to them in person and decide. My choice will end up being which ever one can go louder without distorting. Adam t8v have a Max spl of 118db but only 90 watts and the Yamaha Hs8 have a max spl of 100db which seems much lower but it has more power 120 watts. Not sure why the t8v is only 90 watts but they both do sound identical from what I’ve heard. Like you said, Yamahas have slightly more and better mids. The t8v reach slightly lower than the hs8s but it’s not too much of a difference. T8vs are $600 a pair and the hs8s are about $740 a pair. With all that said, u can’t go wrong with either of these studio monitors. Thanks for the video ✔️
@@thehottestbeatz Indeed, either of these should be a good buy. Regarding the power, the T8Vs are indeed louder with less power than the HS8. The reason for this is that the T8Vs are slightly more efficient, so they don't need as much power. The ribbon tweeter in particular will move more air with half the power, compared to the dome tweeter in the HS8.
Thanks for the demo. Could you clarify in the end about the Mid-range vs High End clarity? 300hz-2k vs 2k-10k ? I recently tried a coaxial ribbon tweeter monitor and it almost sounded dipped in mid range and exaggerated in the 3-4k range. Curious if this is the same experience when switching between the HS8 and T8V. Appreciate it.
Hi, ribbon tweeters often have a more linear frequency response compared to dome tweeters which often drop off a bit the higher you get, therefore they can sound a bit exaggerated in comparison. I think a lot of people have a love hate relationship with ribbon tweeter. Some people simply love them, and others hate them. They do offer exceptional clarity, but it's not for everyone. Between these two monitors, I liked the midrange better on the HS8, but the high-end was clearer on the T8V's. If it had been a 3-way speaker then there would be no issues related to crossover, but this is a compromise you'll have to accept when going for cheaper two way monitors. Especially with larger main cones.
@@FireWalkMusic Update, I got my T8V's and I'm impressed. The mid-range definition I thought I was going to miss on the HS7 is not a problem at all it seems. Especially when my B speakers are Mixcubes. I listened to my fav commercial tracks for ~4 hours and the 4-6k range has not worn me out yet. Most of all, they gave me back the Bottom that disappeared when i went from HR824's to the HS7. Also, the quickly identified the problems in my last 3 mixdowns in my room I did on the HS7's. Too much 4k in 1x track, and too much Kick and Bass in all of them (~4-6db). Couldn't be happier.
@@keysbymo944 Thanks for the update! Glad to hear that you're happy with the T8V's! They are indeed very good. That's why I made this comparison video in the first place. I believe that when it comes to 8" monitors in this price range, the T8V and the HS8 are definitely among, if not the best you can get for the price.
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Every once in a while you find a reviewer that understands what we want from a video like this. Straight to the point, carefully opinionated and concise. Thank you! Will likely grab a T7V since my room size aint that big.
I agree with you 100%
100%
My HS8 suffered a serious fire accident and a fall from like 3 feet, still playing as new.
They can truly stand a beating :)
@H0T-Vlog Go to My Channel use the back switches, are made for that, and use a power regulator for taking care in case of electricity variatons, and yes i think a general switch can be dangerous because is like a river door, let the power go with more strength
I know these are built to mix, but would you say they can double as speakers to listen to music that is already mastered? I’ve been hearing mixed review as to if these sound too flat to play music casually.
@@lukeesham2562 Hi, these are reference monitors intended for mixing and mastering. Their sole purpose is to play back the music as neutral as possible, and with as good audio quality as possible.
They are also nearfield monitors, so they're not as effective at angles compared to general HIFI speakers. HIFI speakers often tend to sound different, or "better" according to many because they do not play back the sound in a neutral manner. They typically amplify certain frequency regions, to try and make the low-end sound better and so on.
So it can be a bit misleading. If the bass becomes louder on a HIFI speaker, it will usually sound better because "louder" always sounds better to humans.
On the other hand, if you want to experience music the exact way that the original composer intended it, then you'll get the most realistic experience with studio monitors like this. They also have built in amplifiers so you won't have to think about that.
They will require you to sit right in front of them (the golden triangle) to get a good listening experience though.
So, there are pros and cons when it comes to using these as hi-fi speakers for casual music listening. Some really enjoy studio monitors, and others think of them as flat and more "boring" .
The truth is that they represent music exactly as it "is", and it is the hifi speakers that actually "adds" something to the sound, making them sound more exiting (most of the time). :)
@@lukeesham2562 i know there are better and expensive Monitors like focal, Adam, Dynaudio, but i use everyday for hours and hours the hs8's in casual listening (spotify, youtube, you name it) and not seems to need another pair, and never had ear fatigue
unbelievable review, straight to the point, very very static, which is superb and so to the point. you didnt miss a beat, and your narration style is perfectly balanced, i didnt even get tired listening....so in a sense you're more like the T8V but also offered great midrange tone, so also like the HS8. Thanks for providing straight to the point content not like other reviewers outhere that drain the hell out of the listeners to give little. You said enough and gave plenty!! I love your last sentence : People have dissimilar hearing, which mean that different people will always prefer one over the other, very true in the audio world.
Adam has very good upper range as expected from its tweeters but overall I prefer the Yamaha's due to its balanced natural sound. I personally use the HS7 with HS8S sub that works out quite good. Very nice balanced review.
Thanks! Glad you liked it 😃
@@II-jv9yx great combo there, the top end as well as mid end and natural bass is what Yamaha is all about provided the source is true.
First i buy the HS7. I missed low end. Them i decide to drive to the biggest music store and hear 20-30 monitors side by side. And i figuer out that tha yamahas have a mid range overboost. The adam more linear. Also the the adam ribbon tweeter is a whole class over the yamahas. I bought the adam t8v and the are way more better than the Yamahas.
Good for you then! T8V are great monitor for a price, same goes with Yamaha HS8 which were my choice and preference over Adam T8V, while in the end we both get what we pay for : )))
Last week I've bought Adam T8V, from Yamaha HS7, I really love them🔥🔥🔥
There's a huge difference between 7 and 8" , that's for sure.
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Hi there, thanks! Glad to hear that you've found the content useful! 😊 There are so many large channels out there these daya, it's not easy to find small channels like this :)
My first pair of speakers were a pair of Eris 3.5s and I quickly learned that's way too small to do anything with the low end. Was looking to upgrade and might get a pair of Adam t8vs. Love the review!
Glad you liked the review! Indeed, It's difficult to mix low-end on such small monitors, that's for sure. The 8" makes it much easier. Anything larger than that and you'll start to degrade the mid-range, unless it's a 3 way setup. The T8V and the HS8 are among the best 8" monitors you can get in this price range. :)
I currently have the 3.5s as well, and I do want to upgrade, I just don't know if yamaha's adam's /:
@@nuhrel7389 Either of those should work very well :)
The sound in this video is fantastic. When you started unboxing I thought someone was in the room with me😃
Hi, thanks! I always post-process the audio with EQ, compression, etc to make it as good as possible. I don't just record straight on top of the video. It's a bit more time consuming, but I always try to go by quality over quantity :)
Buy both! We run both sets with both matching subs. Incredible
for monitoring or listening to music
@@barneyrubble8255he must be in studio lol
Have been using HS8's for sometime. I share your practice of keeping the volume at the 50% point and never ever had a need for more volume. I did experiment with other settings but found this was the best position for more-than-enough volume and clarity. The low end on these is great, and the overall musicality is exceptional. I consider them a great overall value. Yamaha has been a reliable technology vendor for me since my teen years in the 1970s. I am about to buy HS5 to offer a smaller option in the same room. Thanks for this video.
In my opinion all speakers should be flat (no matter what kind) and flavouring should be applied through an equalizer that is either separate or inside the amp's DSP. The reason is that every room has a different acoustic, and thus it is easier to dial in your preference if you can use a flat base as a starting point rather than having to figure out the frequency response of the speaker first. Which depending on how much range the equalizer has might not even be correctable.
That's your opinion...I like ABIT of top sparkle ✨
@@mobeatzleeds So use an EQ to add sparkle.
@@LogiForce86 In and out ...
To many times takes quality away from the source ...
I use the Yamaha hs5, as I have a small room. I use always use ATR70x open back headphones, they are very light and I literally feel like I’m listening to my speakers as they are open back, very natural. They have a very flat midrange, one of the flattest in the game. My mixes truly started translating. As they are open back headphones their low end rolls off around 100-90HZ, I use Dt770 pros closed back to really check the lowend. I don’t know if it’s my skills which developed or my listening medium that drastically improved my mixes. Id say it’s a bit of both.
I have a weird hard on for Yamaha stuff and I'm slowly gathering a Yamaha studio collection, but these Adams are real nice
For making music hs8 no matter how much they praise other brands and if you need more bass in a very big big room go for a subwoofer with it.
i'm crying when he said "you don't have to check it in your car", i'm literally running in and out to check my mix 🤣🤣
This was one of the best explanations and discussions about studio monitors - thx! I am in the market for some and its not easy... I want dual use. To be able to create backing tracks and then play guitar along to them - all at home
Glad you found it helpful 🙂
I was eager to get the T8 V but after listening to HS 8...i deicided to go for HS...sounds rock solid.. as at present using the Msp 5 for 18 yrs...wow...pieces of rolling stones.
What an amazing analysis, thank you.
Mann this video shows very well how big 8' monitors actually are, it's almost scary haha!
so hard to decide on what to buy!
I also have the RCF ayra pro on the list.
Excellent Review. Thanks for this.
I use Avantones for midrange. The speed in dialing clarity I achieved on the first mix I did on them, was night and day. That mix was originally done on 2-way speakers and I thought it was clear enough then but it took a lot longer. They exist for a very good reason.
Do you suggest a pair or a single??? As it's mono
@@wapanglemdur If you're only producing mono tracks, then you only need one. I use two because, although I do mix in mono and technically I could use one, I still need to mix for stereo systems and these speakers are superior for making sure the midrange is in phase and clear while in stero mode. So, having only one is not a solution for me. If you want to use one and then guess if your midrange is clear on your normal stereo 2-ways...go for it. I can't work like that.
GREAT straight to the point professional comparison video which is not easy to find on RUclips these days
Thanks so much
T8v for the win.When I tried them both I falled in love with the sound of the t8v.(t8v is probably the most accurate speaker in this price range)Probably if I had more money I would have bought adam s3v or a8x,or something from APS.Although yamaha is very good it just cant beat adam audio.
The Adams are great. People seem to have a kind of love hate relationship with ribbon tweeters. Some love them and others can't stand them. We all have very different hearing so people will never agree on what's "best".
Personally I can't really make up my mind when it comes to these two. They're both very good in their own way. I prefer the low mids on the Yamaha's, but I also really like the Adam's clarity in the highs.
I think both of these are among the best you can get for the price.
@@FireWalkMusic ...which of them are louder?
@@lisaredsatl2571 On paper the T8V is louder but in reality, you won't notice much difference. They can both play loud enough to damage your hearing, so you should never push them to the limit. It would be best if you always mixed on reasonably low volume, and only increase it every now and then to check the low-end, etc.
I have seen order channels, but trust me this is the best channel I have come across, #1. Bro you are doing an excellent job. Can't wait for you to release the videos.
I would like you to do a video, on actually mixing and mastering a full song. Thanks
Hi, thanks! Much appreciated. Good suggestion. I have many mixing and mastering tutorials planned 😀
@@FireWalkMusic Nice. Can't wait. Thanks bro
Hs8 for more accurate reproduction, t8v for that hifi hyped sound. I used to use hs7's which weren't the best, but in the 8 inch range for budget speakers it's definitely gotta be Yamaha. 💯 Great comparison video 👍🏿
I enjoyed this very thorough review. Thank you.
You're welcome. Glad you liked it 🙂
*HS8s*
100db Max SPL
120W (75/45)
38Hz - 30KHz Frequency Response.
(Anything above 18KHz isn't going to be heard by most adults)
*800* *Dollars* (pair)
*T8V*
118db Max SPL
90W (70/20)
35Hz - 25KHz Frequency Response.
(Anything above 18KHz isn't going to be heard by most adults)
*600* *Dollars* (pair)
Great job just saw your channel for the first time nice job video quality is outstanding !
Thanks! Much appreciated :)
Hi FireWalk 😊👍
Thank you very much for this quick review, well explained, thumbs up!👍
You're welcome! 😀
I got HS8 for music production, I hope I picked right
Thank you for this great review!
You're welcome. Glad you liked it 😀
Awesome comparison
Thanks for the review. I am presently looked for some new monitor speakers. As for having a notched volume knob, I saw a test of a set of monitor speakers with that type of knob where even though the knobs were set to the same notch, the speakers where not at the same volume level when tested.
The crossover point of the Adams is the deal breaker for me. Also Kali Audio IN8 v2 is a good option as it is a three way speaker for 399 EUR/speaker.
Thx for mentioning the Kali Audio! I have been on thomann for years but I've never looked at this brand! I think I will try this one Kali Audio IN8 v2!
Always the high crossover frequence of the adam is named as a problem. But this isn't so. Hear them and you will hear that this is only a theoretical argumentation.
What monitors/headphones are you using right now?
T7V :D
(I don't know what happened to my earlier comment. It's not showing up, but I can see it's still being counted. Can anyone else see it?)
Headphones... Will be upgrading to monitors soon though
Presonus Sceptre S8 (amazing monitors ) + Shure SRH 840
@@thomasfroland762 While it is possible to mix solely on headphones, I still recommend having monitors too. Check out this video: Headphones VS Monitors - What's best for mixing: ruclips.net/video/ifwb_qKQNhU/видео.html
Great review. Thank you!
It matters what the response curve within the stated range is. 33hz for 1 speaker could be 6db down from flat response and another could be 40hz at 3db down. THAT determines how there would be sonic differences. I'll take the Audioengine A5 for my 10 x 12 bedroom ty. From what I have gleaned... the weakness of ribbon tweeters is dispersion width and having to position them directly, on either side, at the sweetspot you want.
I got my HS8 modified and got to sound close to a 3 way monitor and I love it
Interesting, exactly how are they modified?
@@FireWalkMusic I send it to zenpro company and they did it what they do is upgrade wiring and other stuff in it look it up
@@conflictortiz8906 Thanks, I will :)
Brilliant review 👍
Thanks! 😀
Even the T5V are insanely good. Adam really knows what they are doing.
THANKS BRO BEEN WAITING FOR A VIDEO LIKE THAT , I HAD THE HS8 THEY ARE MONSTERS BUT I SOLD THEM AND LOOKING FOWARD TO BUYING THE T8V
You're welcome 😀
why did you sell?
Probably not the best decision made, but maybe get the t7v if you are going to go for the Adams 👍🏿
nowadays spam account like above has been asking serious genuine questions instead of call me to have s*x etc etc...I gues they have upgraded their robot softwares./..shit..
@@JosephKarthic 🤣😂🤣 I was thinking something seems odd as well
I had the T7Vs Adams and sent it back after 5 days. I couldnt handle the boomy bass from them. I bought then the HS8s and I love them!!! Bigger bass, less boomy, more clarity!!
The T8V sounds very different from the T7V. Likewise, the T7V can't be compared to the HS8. That increase in woofer size really makes a huge difference to the fullness of the sound.
The thing about ribbon tweeters though is that people either love it or hate it. :)
It just goes to show how different hearing we all have, and how differently we perceive sound. By the way, I have a rather interesting video about that here: ruclips.net/video/FaDhBq598kA/видео.html
It's fun to see how some people hear one thing and others something completely different. I suppose it's that way with studio monitors too. Some will say a particular monitor is boomy, some will say it's too thin.
The most important thing is that you find something that you are happy with, and that works well in your particular room. You need something that you feel is working with you, not against you, so if something doesn't feel right, try something else. That's the right approach :)
@@FireWalkMusic Completely agree, sound is very subjective is you dont measure it. And yes, the HS8 are very different from the 7s
boomy bass is usually easily remedied by a foam plug in the bass port
My hs8s suffered a full total loss car accident Still work like brand new. But i’m interested in the ribbon tweeter on the adam’s.
I am totally willing to pay the extra for the HS8, but I have a tiny room for music making and think the extra bass may be more of a problem than an asset. I think I'm going for the HS5s as a result!
the 5s dont have much bass at all... but for mixing they transfer very well to everything...
I read that someone else was worried about the boomy bass in a small room, but he had no problem as he kept the speakers on volume notch 2 usually and had great sound
This is bad internet advice, makes no sense. Buy the HS8.
@@NoQualmsTheArtist The HS5s work for me, I have no regrets!
@@lundsweden if it works for you then that's what is important. It's just speaker size for room size is a myth.
For your information. It's wattage that is important. The larger the speaker the higher the wattage which equals less distortion. You can run an 8" speaker at the same volume as a 5" speaker but get a much clearer image because there is less cone distortion, not to mention the frequency range. If you can't hear it you can't engineer it.
According to Sound on Sound the HS8's have a flatter frequency response.
Just saw a interview with Tim Valentine...he prefers the Adams T8V's over the Yamaha's HS8
People have very different hearing so we're all going to prefer different monitors. :)
Both of these are very good, but some people prefer the HS8 and some the T8V. I recommend that you listen to both before you make up your own mind. Don't just listen to what any one person says, because your experience might be very different. :)
Here's a good example of how different hearing we all actually have: ruclips.net/video/FaDhBq598kA/видео.html
Great video.
Thanks
Amazing channel
Thanks 😀
And , of course , I subscribed.
Much appreciated! 😃
SPAN is a good plugin if you only got small speakers to mix with.
Mixing with your eyes can be done if you know what to do, but it can sure as hell also wreck your mix if you don't know how :P
Indeed! Visual aids can be very helpful, but only as a reference. I always recommend that people trust their ears first and foremost, but you can't always trust them fully due to room acoustics and so on, so visual aids can be a good complement to help you out.
It's like with food. A famous chef once said that that you also eat with your eyes. If it looks good, then it tastes better too. :)
So I'd say you need to make sure that it sounds good first, and then double-check with visual aids to make sure that what you hear is "correct" :)
Adams are great!
Indeed! :)
Thanks for this great review! Did you keep one of them at the end?
I would not recommend either model based on current prices. I listened to the Yamahas and Adams and tested the Presonus r80 as a third reference. The R80s have much better midrange imaging than the Adam t8V and have equally fine resolution. I found the yamahas to be tiring in the upper mids and not as strong in the top end.
Hi , I would like to hear your opinnion as an expert for more to listening to music and less mixing monitor as a suggestion to me.
Thanks for the videos btw.
I got my Hs8's 3 years ago a pair for $450 off ebay, i got lucky
Indeed 😃
Adam is best 🔥
Yamahas are great, but Adams are god-tier.
Is it me or the speakers are placed odd in that room
Placement should be ideal for that room, which was way too small btw. It was just a temporary room I used while I built my current studio, so they ended up in the corner, which isn't ideal. The angles were right though, and the tweeter was the same height as my ears, etc. That's the most important thing. You want to align it as a triangle, with an equal distance between each monitor and the length from each monitor and to you.
How about the HS8 vs T7V for listening only? You mentioned the mids smoothness of the T7V over the 8 so not sure how the mids of the 7 compare with the HS8.
HS8 all the way ❤️
Has anyone used the Adam Audio T8V for Helix and Guitar? I've heard the Yamaha and wanted to know more about the Adam speakers. Are they worth the extra money?
I've had a pair of these for about 8 years and they have proved to be fantastic as near field monitors. They are on for hours and hours on end and are not fatiguing. My reference monitors are Bowers and Wilkins 802's which are obviously at a different level and I use these for critical listening, but the Yamahas give you the information you need to make recording and mixing decisions.
You’ve had a pair of HS8s or T8Vs?
@@bren.r I had a pair of HS8's. I upgraded to Adam A77X which are double front ported horizontal 3 ways with the X-Art tweeters, but the HS8's are not to be underestimated. Not in the same class as the A77X's but they are not humiliated.
Yammies all the way. Just make sure you get the HS8 not HS5 or HS7, and treat your room.
The Adam's sound better. T8V's all the way. The Yamaha's are long in the tooth.
@@spicecrop high end boost is bad on the t8vs yamaha’s hs8 has the best midrange for this price range and also better low end clarity. the depth is huge.
Thank you for this video! I think my biggest problem right now is determining if my room is the right size for either one. I currently have HS7's and don't feel like they're cutting it.
There's a big difference between the 7 and the 8" when ut comes to low end in particular.
thank you
You're welcome 🙂
I still don’t know which monitors to buy, actually I need monitors that have very clean Low end… and very accurate sound, best in EQ range 20hz to 30khz .. someone some advice?
The hs8 sounds more balanced overall, but the t8v has slightly better clarity, so if clarity is very important then i would probably go for the t8v..
Hi, do you have a link for the monitor stand you were using??? Thanks
So maybe, because I already have a 10" subwoofer in my home studio, the T7V could be a better choice?
You'll have all the low-end you need from the sub so if you're after maximum clarity then that might not be a good idea. It depends on your room size though. If you have a medium large room then I would consider the T8V anyways. The difference in terms of clarity is rather minor really, and personally I think the low-end response makes up for it, and it's also often easier to mix with larger main monitors rather than having to rely on a subwoofer, as you'll get a more realistic result with the main monitors. With the sub you also have to factor in issues with ideal placement, getting the level synced perfectly and so on.
I think T7v or T5v with a Adam Audio Sub would be great. Mid-rage clarity and low bass. Right?
Indeed!
@@FireWalkMusic Whats the flatter/more studio Setup? t5v plus sub or t7v with sub?
T5v with the T10s sub is a killer combo
I have found a pair of adam t7vs and yamaha hs8s for a very similar price, and I often produce dance/edm music [and sometimes trap] - which one should I go for?
The thing that annoys me with the T8V is that they've probably saved a few cents per monitor by not having notched volume knobs -- the T8Vs not even at 0dB.
For my dj sets i have them f7s and sub7 and for my productions the s2vs tried yamahas never gel with their flat but guess it works for many others. On a side note on affordable monitors i tried them monkey bananas turbo8s and i was extreme impressed by their poweful low end response
Thanks!
You're welcome
I have just recently downgraded my studio stuff my previous monitors were the kh120a and the hs7 i found a very good deal on the adam t7v so i thought id see what all the good reviews were about and honestly i am blown away! they sound miles better than the hs7, hs7 give me headaches lol they are comparable to the kh120a i am not saying they are better by all means but i do not regret downgrading, im not going to talk frequency's but I'm going to talk about what i am hearing best way to compare the kh120a to the adam tv7 is adams sound a bit more coloured/hifi but they are picking up everything i hear on the kh120a, kh120a sound more neutral sorry im rambling about other monitors lol but my point is the adams are amazing, they should be 2x more! the main bad side is the led indicator is at the back etc but great monitors well done adam!
by the way guys this is my opinion we all have different ears lol
Between these which would sound better for a digital piano setup?
Both would work well, but if top end clarity is very important to you then the t7v will provide slightly brighter top end due to the ribbon tweeter.
heya i hope that you are doing fine i want to purchase studio monitors... but i am confused between HS8 and T7V here in india HS8 are cheaper than T7V HS8 costs around 301$ and T7V around 335$ (for each) which in indian currency is a big difference. I am getting HS 8 at lower price then T7V but I have also heard that Adams are better than yamahas so IS IT worth buying costly smaller size monitor or should i go for HS8 PLEASE SUGGEST
I don't know what kind of music you make, but assuming you make EDM and bass-heavy music in general, then I would go for the HS8 if I were you. If you produce classical music or something, and clarity is the most important thing, then the T7V would probably be the best choice.
Kali Audio IN-8 V2, your welcome!
Is that a Pioneer on your Desk or are you just happy to see us ?
Indeed. I use those mostly for reference purposes, to see how music translates on smaller 5" monitors. :)
Thanks for comparison!! Do you think it might be worth spending more than twice as much for A7Vs? Or do you think the jump in performance from T7Vs to A7Vs is not worth the price increase?
If you can afford it then go for the A7V. It's a whole different beast and a huge difference in clarity and balance. The T series is a budget monitor, and it sounds like a budget monitor too,. They all do. When taking that next step up to the A series, which is somewhere in between budget monitors and high-end monitors, you'll notice a huge improvement in clarity and balance. I recommend that you check out my review of tte A7V here on my channel.
@@FireWalkMusic Thanks man!
I heared both side by side.
Hs8 is mid overboost.
Adam Audio T8V is much more balanced. Better Buy ;-)
To "hear" them somewhere, in a room one does not know, without an experience working with either of these in the question, hardly qualifies the preference as "better" buy. It simply states, that you liked one of them better. Nothing wrong with that. But that is all.
Pls can u show us how to detect the correct yamaha out of the fake once before buying.
Hi, I haven't seen any fake ones where I live so it's hard to say. If you buy them from a reputable company then i think you should be fairly safe. If you fear that you have a fake one then I would suggest contacting Yamaha and provide them with the serial number on the back to make sure.
Yamaha will be named Yamaha clearly with the logo showing on the back and front. The other one's won't. 👍🏿
I use a pair of Yamaha HS8 since 4 years and I'm realy happy with them. It's unfortunate Adam Audio doesn't make "T8H", H, for an horizontal positioning. On my side the possibilty to put the monitors horizontaly or not is a deal breaker, they have to be horizontal in my current studio setup.
You're not supposed to use HS-8s horizontally as well.
@@kennylux Yes and No..😏. As their tweeters' waveguides are round, same shape on 360° all around, you can listen to them in any position, the distribution of the high frequencies will not be affected. BUT You are perfectly right, Yamaha recommends to put them verticaly for cooling reasons (The location of the inner amp components and the shape of the heater behind. It makes sens). On my side I've no choice than put them horizontaly.🥴
Which monitor stands and isolation pads are you using in the setup?
Hi, I believe it was these. Cheap, but sturdy: geni.us/monitorstands
And some basic monitor pads: geni.us/acousticmonitorpads
Both are very good, but, if we compare 5 inches HS5 and T5V, Adam is much better!
What I like about Adam Audios budget monitors is that they don't put anything in there that's not 100% necessary. No fancy LCD displays on the back, no illuminated logo, no notched volume control etc. Instead they've focused all their energy (and money) on making them sound as good as possible. You get what you pay for :)
@@FireWalkMusic Absolutely!
@@FireWalkMusic ha "LCD Display" :p guess what the D stands for ^^ - great vid!
@@woodsiee 😁 thanks
How do you like the Pioneers compared to both of them
It's a much smaller speaker so they're not directly comparable to the 8" HS8 and T8V. It would be more comparable to the T5V and the HS5. That said, I find them to be surprisingly well balanced, and I actually prefer the pioneers to 5" Rokits for example, which I've always found to be a little bit too low-end heavy and colored. I think both the HS5 and the T5V provides slightly better sound quality overall, but they are also more expensive.
@@FireWalkMusic thanks i also have them and like them verry much. I also now have Dynaudio BM5MKIII but you give me a good answer thank you
i use HS5 and HS8subwoofer for listening music, and i want to exchange them. Can u recommend good hifi speaker that's not really expensive?
Hi, reference monitors like these are very flat and they are also nearfield monitors, so you kind of have to sit in that "triangle" in order to make them sound good. HIFI speakers are much wider and will usually sweeten up the sound a bit too (which is obviously not ideal for a mix engineer). When it comes to hifi speakers it's down to personal taste really. What I like someone else might hate and vice versa. I like DALI speakers myself. Good sound and not terribly expensive.
What did you replace your hs8s with??
I'm currently using a pair of Adam Audio A7V
@@FireWalkMusic Do you think it might be worth spending more than twice as much for A7Vs? Or do you think the jump in performance from T7Vs to A7Vs is not worth the price increase?🤔
Sorry, how can you make a speaker comparison without us hearing a sound comparison?
Hi, I decided against this because the audio will be heavily influenced by my microphone and my room. Furthermore, when you playback the audio it will be further colored by whatever monitor or headphones you use to play it back. It can never sound any better or worse than whatever equipment you play it back on.
I've experimented with this in the past and often times the sound ends up sounding nothing like the real thing, and I didn't want anyone to get the wrong impression.
@@FireWalkMusic okay, it makes sense. Perhaps a more scientific approach using software may be helpful. I find studio monitors comparison quite problematic since they will be colored y the room. And also most of the time people do the review for a RUclips video without actually calibrating the speakers as recommended by the manufacturer and spending months mixing with it. Thanks anyway for getting back to me 😎🤓
One thing you don't want is port noise complaints.
Yamaha HS8 really fire or not?
what I need to get 100% power of em?
Both of these are really good and they are both capable of playing REALLY loud! :)
@@FireWalkMusic thx,
@@user-ob9zo9cr4c You're welcome 🙂
Adam T8V's controls on the back panel are real basic. Not sure if this thing has an auto power daving / auto off feature, and if it does, can it be defeated, i.e. switched off? Also, Adam Audio had somehow "forgot" to include a 1/4-inch TRS balanced input jack. How weird is that -- considering that 99% of the studio monitor controllers use 1/4-inch TRS and not XLR. Whatever. I guess that is all that USD $300 will buy you these days.
They are indeed quite basic. I talked to Adam Audio about the features of the T-series a while back and they explained that they placed all their attention and focus on the sound quality. They wanted to make a budget monitor that sounds great. As was said in the video too, you don't typically see ribbon tweeters in this price range, because they are so expensive to make. So, in order to get the price as low as it is, they had to sacrifice anything that's not 100% needed, such as fancy LCD panels on the back, illuminated logo in the front, additional inputs and outputs etc. There is no auto on / off feature either, and that's the case with the HS8 as well. In my experience though, that's perfectly OK. A lot of people find that function annoying, especially when it can't be manually disabled.
Personally I think all this is an acceptable compromise, unless you really really need some of those inputs / outputs etc.
Personally I prefer balanced XLR over pure TRS cables, like this for example: geni.us/monoprice104761
They're TRS in one end and XLR in the other.
You get what you pay for, and in this case you pay for superior sound quality.
I think people should always aim for the best possible sound quality first and foremost. These won't sound as good as a pair of $20000 monitors of course, but they definitely offer some of the best sound quality you can get within this price range. :)
i couldn't mix sub/low bass with my hs8 until i got a hs8s sub for them. So i don't agree at all about hearing everything down there ;/
It's tricky because good headphones go well below even expensive studio monitors, but the bookshelves most consumers use might start at 80hz. Older people might have old wooden speakers going down to 40hz if they have a half decent brand. So who do I mix for? Headphones doing 20 to 20K or their crappy bookshelves starting at 80? My theory is, bookshelf speakers are crap, but they don't want to store and ship big wooden speakers anymore so you spend a lot for speakers with the low end of an average Fischer, JBL, Technics of old. Some with large bass reflex, horns, mids. But hey, plastic and metal boxes are cheap to put on a truck or warehouse. My Rokit 5 Gen 4 could easily be replaced by getting a decent pair of 80s or 90s speakers off craigslist. Old speakers that can do 40Hz to 20K are a dime a dozen.
The problem with bass and low frequencies is that we're not very sensitive to low frequencies. The lower the frequency, the less sensitive our hearing is to it. It's not like we hear all the way down to 20 hz, and then it just cuts off. Our sensitivity actually, start rolling off gradually from around 900 Hz. We therefore tend to "feel" the bass more than we hear it, and you obviously won't get that sense with headphones. You'll get a much better sense of it with studio monitors, even 5" will be better in that regard, but 8" that goes down to 35 Hz or so will be the best of course. If you could also add a subwoofer than that would be ideal.
I don't recommend using standard hifi speakers for mixing and mastering. The reason for that is that they will sweeten the mix, while dedicated studio monitors (even cheaper ones) have a flat frequency response, which allows you to hear the music like it actually is, without any sugarcoating.
Imagine mixing on hifi speakers, and then they add a 1,5 dB boost in the 80 Hz region. You'll think that kick is sitting perfectly in the mix, so you finish the mix and upload it. A few days later you hear it somewhere else and find out that the kick is severely lacking in the 80 Hz region.
If you have some big hifi speakers with great low-end extension then you can of course use those in combination with small cheaper studio monitors, and switch back and forth to get a sense of it.
I recommend using both headphones and monitors when mixing.
I have some really expensive professional monitors that I use, but I also have some cheaper, but larger monitors that I use just to get a sense of the bass response. I also use headphones as I go, just to verify that everything sounds good on headphones too. You always want to make a mix that sounds good on everything :)
@@FireWalkMusic True, regardless of frequency range, even good home speakers were probably made with a V shape rather than flat response where reference speakers, like studio headphones were designed not to boost anything. But I find massive differences in those headphones. To me, DT770 doesn't have much bass. Pro 280 and ATHM40X have too much and sound very different than the 770s. So I record on MDR7506 because they seem fairly middle ground. Oddly enough I noticed Rockville M50s are also fairly evenly boosted, even if they seem to add a little distortion. But I suppose I have to use the 770s as the standard. I just suspect they are cutting low end. Just got Samson DR850s and Philips 9500 but my favorite headphones now are Superlux 681. They are amazing.
@@FireWalkMusic I just heard a bunch of Adam, M-Audio, Yamaha and JBL at Guitar Center. I have to say the Adam Audio blew my doors off. Either as reference or home listening both the low and high frequencies were clear and gorgeous. They are on my radar now. They are competing with Yamaha for reference speakers and have only been around about 20 years. Impressive.
Nice! I Can’t decide between the tv8, the hs8 and the new kali in 8 v2. Out of these two in the video, which one handles port noise better? Meaning which one has less audible air turbulence when pushed at louder levels?
Studio monitors are often a very personal thing. We all have different hearing and some people will always prefer one over the other, regardless of the specifications. Some really love ribbon tweeters and some hate them, I recommend that you go to a store and listen to all of them before you make up your mind. These two are my own personal favorites. Regarding port noise, there's no noticeable difference. The diameter of the port is pretty much the same. The important thing when it comes to rear-ported monitors is to try and avoid pushing it right into the rear wall or a corner. As long as you have a little bit of space behind it then it usually won't be a problem. Because you'll have cables sticking out back there, it's going to be impossible to get it all the way back towards the wall anyways, and as long as you have some distance this usually won't be any problem at all. :)
@@FireWalkMusic I agree with everything you said, these two are great studio monitors and it’s hard to choose. Best thing to do is like you said go to the store and listen to them in person and decide. My choice will end up being which ever one can go louder without distorting. Adam t8v have a Max spl of 118db but only 90 watts and the Yamaha Hs8 have a max spl of 100db which seems much lower but it has more power 120 watts. Not sure why the t8v is only 90 watts but they both do sound identical from what I’ve heard. Like you said, Yamahas have slightly more and better mids. The t8v reach slightly lower than the hs8s but it’s not too much of a difference. T8vs are $600 a pair and the hs8s are about $740 a pair. With all that said, u can’t go wrong with either of these studio monitors. Thanks for the video ✔️
@@thehottestbeatz Indeed, either of these should be a good buy. Regarding the power, the T8Vs are indeed louder with less power than the HS8. The reason for this is that the T8Vs are slightly more efficient, so they don't need as much power. The ribbon tweeter in particular will move more air with half the power, compared to the dome tweeter in the HS8.
@@FireWalkMusic If you cant pick by sound, pick by appearance.
@@rettaine4562 in that case I think the t8v has the advantage 😎
Hello I plan on getting the T8V’s I wanted to ask if I getting the 10inch sub would
Be too much?
Are ribbon tweeters replaceable ?
Yes
Yamaha hs8 😎🔥🔥🔥
midrange is where the magic is.
which one has the best midrange here?
@@JosephKarthic HS8 without a doubt
Thanks for the demo. Could you clarify in the end about the Mid-range vs High End clarity? 300hz-2k vs 2k-10k ?
I recently tried a coaxial ribbon tweeter monitor and it almost sounded dipped in mid range and exaggerated in the 3-4k range. Curious if this is the same experience when switching between the HS8 and T8V. Appreciate it.
Hi, ribbon tweeters often have a more linear frequency response compared to dome tweeters which often drop off a bit the higher you get, therefore they can sound a bit exaggerated in comparison. I think a lot of people have a love hate relationship with ribbon tweeter. Some people simply love them, and others hate them. They do offer exceptional clarity, but it's not for everyone.
Between these two monitors, I liked the midrange better on the HS8, but the high-end was clearer on the T8V's. If it had been a 3-way speaker then there would be no issues related to crossover, but this is a compromise you'll have to accept when going for cheaper two way monitors. Especially with larger main cones.
@@FireWalkMusic Update, I got my T8V's and I'm impressed. The mid-range definition I thought I was going to miss on the HS7 is not a problem at all it seems. Especially when my B speakers are Mixcubes. I listened to my fav commercial tracks for ~4 hours and the 4-6k range has not worn me out yet. Most of all, they gave me back the Bottom that disappeared when i went from HR824's to the HS7.
Also, the quickly identified the problems in my last 3 mixdowns in my room I did on the HS7's. Too much 4k in 1x track, and too much Kick and Bass in all of them (~4-6db). Couldn't be happier.
@@keysbymo944 Thanks for the update! Glad to hear that you're happy with the T8V's! They are indeed very good. That's why I made this comparison video in the first place. I believe that when it comes to 8" monitors in this price range, the T8V and the HS8 are definitely among, if not the best you can get for the price.