Evolution of the "Bunny Fart" Load in 300 AAC Blackout (quiet lightweight subs)
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- Опубликовано: 14 мар 2020
- Today, we take a stroll through the mind of Taco to explore light-weight subsonic ammo in the 300 AAC Blackout (why you'd ever want to buy a break action rifle or pistol, and the reasons why Taco seems to shoot so many rounds through his 300 blk firearms...) We also go through the design of the NOE HTC310-135-RN bullet mould, why it was created and where it came from.
Mould Link: tinyurl.com/sga64ge
Music:
The Old RV and Potato Deal by Craig MacArthur 
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I have tried many of your ideas and I use lead almost exclusively in my 300 blackout now. Thanks!!!
Awesome to hear! Thanks for letting me know, I appreciate it.
Gotta love Gunnies! Every time I go there they have cool new stuff in stock
yeah, I always try to stop by a few times a week.
The bunny fart vids are what got me hooked on your channel.
lol thanks man
I like how NOE always reps you and your videos on Facebook its awesome! I need to get into Metallic Reloading Soon. Great Work taco!
Thanks, and I agree, you should get into reloading, it's fun, saves you money, and helps you to be more self sufficient!
By far the most requested round by my friends and family. Thanks taco!
Just super fun to shoot with the family and friends... Just loaded up 300 more today, ha ha
Dude just found the channel already know im gonna get hooked! Just got a bolt action ruger american in 300BLK and I had nooo idea what I was missing. I had been shooting suppressed out of my AR and it's quiet but the bolt slamming and just cycling in general is actually pretty damn loud. Going to suppress my Henry X next in .44mag. LOVE that break action single shot.
Did you end up getting the one that takes AR mags? Man, now that you have a bolt action 300 blk, you can make some sweet light to mid weight plinker loads that are super quiet. You're gonna love having a bolt gun in 300 blk.
This makes me really excited to start loading 300BLK. Just got my dies in today. I'll definitely be looking into this mold! Awesome video. Hey, I recognize that guy in the grey sweatshirt shooting the CVA on the snowy mountain 🤣👍
how goes the 300blk casting/loading?
Great video! I started down this path about a decade ago, but got busy with work and frustrated with my powder coating methods...and finding lead to cast. I'm Subscribed and going to have to go through your videos and look for solutions to some of the issues I had way back then!
If you have questions, let me know
I think that opening part of the video best captures the sound of 300blk better than most
yeah, it's hard to capture the sound on video. In real life these things are insanely quiet.
Thanks Taco! Happy New Year.
Happy new year! Hope 2022 is even "awesomer" than 2021
Yes Taco I enjoyed shooting your “ BUNNY FART “ load in your single shoot Rifle those bullets flew strait and true . I enjoyed meeting you mike I hope you can make it to LOS VAGES this October
yeah man, those are super fun. So people are getting together in vegas by Pat's?
@@FullLeadTaco my place to sleep and "the hub cap spot" to shoot. they have a real nice range near the house. but the range doesn't allow steel. Willie is in charge of cat herding a date. Hope to see you when Willie figures it out.
Excellent video! Every time I want to start trying bunny fart loads I remember I don't have a single shot :(
Keep it up brother!
I've casted thousands of the lee 230 grain "missiles" as elvis calls em and love them. I just got in the lee 113 mold you used to try my own bunny fart loads.
It will be great for shooting with the kids.
super fun light shooting loads
I just noticed how slick your shooting rest/range bag is. Going to have to see if mine would work that nice.
Yeah, those tool bags work well as range bag/shooting rest combos
@@FullLeadTaco I checked mine it's not really suitable. I usually discounted those as being a tool bag I would use but I am sure if let if you go at garage sales and the like.
Great variety with a crazy amount of info. You have now reached the Doctorate Degree in bullet making. Henri-Gustave Delvigne would be amazed. (I had to look up who invented the bullet:) I'm not that smart. Ha Ha.
Lol thanks Toad, hope you stay good and healthy. Hey, I can't remember if I asked you this before, but have you loaded any ammo for the old Swiss rifles yet?
Excellent as usual!!!
Thanks Brian
That last clip looks like great fun!
the 300blk subs are always a riot--a family fav
8m not a fan of 300 but I don't yet own a suppressor but as soon as I decide to get one 300 will be the very next thing I buy .that is one cool load you have worked out .thanks for the vid
If you own a suppressor, you almost have to buy a 300blk for fun
And I thought they were for AR's only at long distance. Thanks for the new world of shooting :-))
lol no prob nick j, thanks for always tuning in
Well dang.
That was a great video dude.
Thanks man
Great info thanks Mike
No prob, thanks for requesting it
That single shot dealing tree!!! 😂😂😂
Lol
Singl shot dueling tree looks like so much fun with bunny farts
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lol, you'll use up a whole lot more ammo than you'd think!
Wow wish I knew half of what you know about loading your own ammo you make it sound like a lot of fun lol great vedio .
Thanks man, it's not too bad to start doing
Ya I'd really like to learn how to cast and coat my own bullets also. I have an unlimited resource of lead I can get from my work . Though I'd have to learn a lot cuz I have no clue how to do any of that stuff lol
@@toddparker514 it actually isnt too hard, just gotta start with some reading on the basics with the lyman cast handbook
Outstanding video! Tell Al hey from Hamish,,,
Will do
I have been looking for one of these for over a year in a 5 cavity and noticed that most models and types of this 135 30 cal mold were always out of stock and there was never any on the group buys. So I just kept checking back. Today However as I was looking it popped up on the bottom of the page "similar items" and it showed 8pcs of the 4 Cavity molds of the HTC310-135-RN-BY3 PB ! So I finally got one coming! I must be blind because its been near the top of the page when looking at the mold page. I had already purchased a 220 Gr Subsonic 300 BLK last time and didn't see any 135gr PB Molds available then as well. I guess I was looking at the bottom of the page showing the larger 5 cav and brass molds. It showed like 6 or 8 different molds of HTC310-135-RN out of stock, that kept throwing me. I didn't want a 2 or 3 cavity or brass so I just kept waiting. I will try to scour the mold page better from now on and look for the "Similar Items" as well. I hope I am the only one, because I really searched every time I went there the last year or so. I'm just glad I have a new 4 cav 135 plain base finally on its way! Thanks for the great videos you have done over the years and yourself and Al's work on designing these molds. Now if I could just find a contender or encore! 😅🤣
Lol my friend picked up the same one last week
Fabulous video! Just subscribed
Thanks for the sub!
Wish you could bring this to market. Would love to get some.
I was on NOE's web sight... and here, (or not hear), and behold... Full Lead Taco... I've seen him around!!! Ok I'm going to be a pain because you already been casting for the 300 Blackout. I have a LMT AR and Scotsman is building one also.... and casting is cheaper to reload!
I want to cast for "Home Defense" 75 yards and under...
Do you have any recommendations?
Oh... great videos too!
Not a lawyer or home defense expert, but generally speaking you don't want to use your own reloads for self defense. However, if I couldn't buy any self defense rounds, I would probably go with a lighter bullet like this one (but with a gas check) and use that.
Mike, ever thought about having a video of you making your favorite Tacos Or Nachos? That would put a spin on things.
I like almost ALL tacos and nachos! ha ha!
My 300 does not seem to like the 556 pmags and has feed issues usually with double feeds. I do not have issues using the Colt aluminum mags. I have not had the opportunity to try a 300 pmag yet. Also the issue is with 200-220 gr subs.
Which gun you have?
Full.Lead.Taco Spykes lower and Radical Arms upper. Not sure how this ended up here, I replied on a pmag 5.56 vs 300 blk out comparison.
Love your video. I'm trying to work up some light weight subs with my RAR which I admit I really bought just for this purpose. Not ready to make the jump to casting just yet. One day. Unfortunately Trail Boss is no where to be found except on scam websites. Have you used any other powders that you like? I can find unique, Bullseye and Clay Dot on-line from legitimate websites. Have you ever tried anything as small as the Hornady ptx 90 gr? I've read that people get those to expand well subsonic?
I'll have to check my load data spreadsheet
I bought a 16" 300BLK just to shoot suppressed subs because of videos like these but when I got it I was surprised how loud it still was with 208gr Hornday subs. Not that you needed hearing protection at all but far from a near silent bunny fart. Is the sound in the videos so deceiving or are these loads much quieter than all of the factory subs out htere?
These loads are really quiet when suppressed. All the powder is burned in the first part of the barrel using trailboss powder unlike the magnum pistol powders that are used in factory loads. Factory loads have to have enough port pressure at the gas port to cycle the action of a semi-auto which tends to make them a bit noisy(er).
So cool..
thanks
Good video. I may have to check out that NOE mold. But I've got a bunch of the 155gr Lee I need to use up. What do you think about shooting a gas check bullet that is powder coated without the gas check? Is it basically a waste of time? Ad conversly, would you shoot a gas check thru a suspressor? I have some I powder coated after I gas checked them. I created a bunch before I got my supressor.
I shoot plenty of bullets that are gas checked and powder coated over the top through my suppressors. As far as the plain base vs gas check, if the bullets have a gas check shank, I pretty much put gas checks on them for accuracy purposes, or use a plain base.
Love the bunny fart!
I find myself shooting 300 more often than not .
Yeah, just a great cast bullet cartridge and very efficient
It's such a fun caliber. Isn't it funny how much of the bandwagon looks for excuses to hate it but it hasn't really tried any of the things that's great at?
@@GunFunZS people still hate on the 300blk, but I don't care what other people think, ha ha ha.
@@FullLeadTaco if you don't care what other people think, why do you run such an active social media life?
@@GunFunZS I like to help people. I try to help new reloaders and new bullet casters. I also enjoy making videos--always enjoyed making videos since I was a high school kid.
good stuff
Thanks!
Do you have a load that cycles subsonic from the AR platform with your 135 gr? Awesome video!
too light of a bullet to cycle an AR... I made a 225 gr bullet for subs in the AR15
I still think it makes sense to make a dedicated 300 blackout AR pistol with lightened old carrier group etc so that it is just for running subsonic bunny farts. It'd be such a smooth shooting light little handy gun to tote around.
What OAL do you use for these? I just cast some and was wondering.
1.940 but that may vary depending on your gun.
What's your average FPS with that load? I've been shooting a modified RCBS mold that throws a 148 grain HP over 5.4 grains of trail boss for years. Comes out of the muzzle @1040fps and is extremely accurate.
Been a while since I ran them through the Chrono, but I think it was somewhere around 950ish or 975ish fps.
What lead mix are you using for these? Just soft lead or are you mixing in any tin or antimony? What bhn you think they are?
my guess would be somewhere around 16bhn if i were to guess... could be slightly harder or slightly softer. For my rifle bullets I usually mix some of my VERY hard printing press lead ingots with my softer stained glass window scrap ingots
They look like candy in that jar. Maybe you could make Bunny Fart 300 Blackout Gummies?
Is match grade machine okay, I was on their website 11-24-23 the in stock barrels were very limited. Hope they are doing well
Not sure, I looked at their stuff for the Black Friday sale and noticed the same
At a good spill mentic.metric shape out for shooting.sit out style.maybe even a little bit like the styler.deal. Thanks.i did bid on the Lego called ones .but there's nothing like heavy metal jacketed.
I don't have a reloading tool and have no skill. Is there any other reloader that reload your bunny fart that I can try? Thank you.
I am not sure of any commercial ammo makers who make bolt-action/break action specific loads
Does anyone do or has anyone converted a mold too cast hollow point projectiles around the 130 grain size? Any info is much appreciated.
NOE sells this exact mold.
noebulletmolds.com/site/shop/bullet-moulds/308-311/htc310-135-rn-by3/htc310-135-rn-by3-4-cavity-pb/
@@FullLeadTaco thanks Mate much appreciated
Noob here. Curious how a 7.62x39mm would play with the CVA?
what do you mean? Like a CVA chambered in 7.62x39?
Anybody coming across this comment, does anyone have a subsonic powder charge weight load for Win 296 powder, cci small rifle magnum primers with the Lee 230 grain cast bullet?
your best bet is going to be A1680, CFEblk, or SWblackout powders for consistent cycling
@@FullLeadTaco just getting started with reloading 300 blk and thank you for replying. It's appearing like Accurate1680 is the most choosen powder for subsonic, CFE blk being one of the better for supersonic.
Do you get excess weight in your silencers?
I don't seem to be getting lead buildup if that is what you're asking. I shoot thousands of rounds through my pistol cans too, and it's all just the same carbon buildup.
So subsonic is based off a heavier and slower projectile correct? What about a load to make black tip loads into subsonic ammo? Would you even be able to do it? Id love to see a ballistics test of it For say a .300aac-blk & .308.
I dont want to try it but its always made me wonder.
You can make almost any bullet subsonic, you just have to use the right powder to get them around 1000fps or so. However, in order to function as a semi auto and work the action, you usually have to use a heavier bullet and a powder that will maintain enough pressure at the gas port to cycle the action.
@@FullLeadTaco how much do normal subsonics weigh as opposed to black tips or other AP ammo?
@@RemanentSphere usually 300 blk subs are 200+ gr and I'm not sure on black tips
@@FullLeadTaco im not either I'll check. And I'm talking about 7.62 loads because they're heavier and in theory easier to make subsonic? Maybe? I think? Lol
@@FullLeadTaco "Cartridge, caliber 7.62mm, NATO, armor piercing, M993 (United States): 126.6 grains (8.2 g) 7.62×51mm NATO armor-piercing round, black cartridge tip. Can penetrate 18 mm of RHA at 100 meters."
What say you with this information.
Where can I find info about subsonic loads with HP-38?
for bolt guns? or ARs?
@@FullLeadTaco It could be either, but AR primarily.
@@1970351C2V for the AR you'll need to use the magnum type pistol powders like a1680, cfeblk, swblackout. For bolt guns or break actions you can use a larger variety.
Great video taco. I'll have to hit you up on discord for your bullseye charge weights.
sounds good
anyone load .300 blackout shotshells yet?
Not yet, but have a few ideas
Who recommended 100yd for 556? I've been shooting 556 as close as 5-7yd and out to 500 or so for 13 years. Never had a problem.
You shoot steel targets at 5 yards? Shooting steel targets that close with 5.56 will damage the face of the target and pock it up. Almost all steel target manufacturers recommend 100 yards minimum for rifles. You also risk having jackets and bullet fragments flying back at you.
@@FullLeadTaco steel, paper, washing machines, jugs, basically everything. I will admit that I'm not stupid enough to shoot a steel plate at 7yd, but I still shoot them WELLLLL under 100 without incident. All of my danger close shooting is usually wood or paper.
@@PB8man lol a friend, GunfunZS, took another friend shooting who shot a pistol distance steel target with his AR15 when GunfunZS wasn't looking. The jacket came back and nailed his buddy right in the Johnson 😂... Fortunately, the jacket shrapnel didn't do any real damage to his body, but the steel target got a big divot.
@@FullLeadTaco oh no! I'm glad he made it out of that alright!
I didn't mean to appear crass, I was honestly interested in where you got the 100m distance from is all... Thanks for clearing that up
@@PB8man yeah, just look at the steel target manufacturers' recommended distances. They usually recommend 10-12 yards for pistols and 100 yards for rifles.
I'm playing with heavy 44 mag bunny fartish loads.
300 gr? Or heavier?
@@FullLeadTaco I've learned on the 265. Just picked up some 300 to load.
Do you have your load data posted somewhere?
Which load are you wondering about?
@@FullLeadTaco All of them? Probably more the bunny farts. I contacted Lehigh Defense to see if they had subsonic load data for the Xtreme Cavitator, which the gentleman who responded to me said he couldn't get it to function well in his AR, but would probably be fine in a single shot.
@@JoeyBaby47 I usually share all the load info for the particular load in the videos. In this video I list the powder charge at 9:52
@@JoeyBaby47 I don't publish or share my master spreadsheet with all my load data since a lot of it is experimental stuff. If you're looking for a cast bullet load, let me know and I can reference my spreadsheet and see what I can find.
What rifle is used here
CVA scout, love that rifle
Interesting
I think like you, and most people don't get it.
ha ha ha, thanks Eddie
I would love to learn to reload. I'm dying for subs now that I got my can and the rona is here
buy a press, a manual, watch some vids, read the manual, and message me with questions. You should do it.
Yes find a press and manual, it's a great community to be a part of
Wow that's quiet
yeah, they seem quieter in real life, video has a way of messing with sound
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The bunny farts are a favorite
Where can I get the mold sir?
coupon code flt001 will save you a few $, this is the link: noebulletmolds.com/site/product-category/308-311/htc310-135-rn-by3/
They are currently sold out at the shop, but I called and they just ran another batch. He still has to put them together and list them, but said they should be ready and listed in the next few days or first of next week.
My family and friends shoot more of that bullet than anything else.
@@FullLeadTaco Just to confirm, these will cycle in a semi auto rifle right? Granted that its tuned ideally.
@@markbrown4597 no, these are bolt gun/single shot loads
@@FullLeadTaco What loads do you use for your 300 blackout AR that were featured in the video at 2:19 ?
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I chipped my tooth on a powder coated booger. 🥴
Lol
Suppressor should be mandatory for children . And they should be free supplied by healthcare .
Wait a minute . What if a doctor prescribed a can for hearing protection as part of medical
If you have type 2 or 1 whatever does insurance pay for supplies ??
At least an HSA or FSA approved purchase for hearing safety