American Grunge: Kurt Cobain, Dave Grohl, Billy Corgan Gets Married
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Hey Everyone,
I'm so used to making videos by myself that it's going to take some practice learning to make videos with another person.
I'm working double time on finishing part 2 of the latest Cobain case video. People are still signing the petition everyday & I think part 2 will help us reach the gofundme campaign to hand deliver the petition to the new Seattle Coroner. Thanks to everyone who is helping out. Thanks for stopping by!
awesome :) let's welcome Marie
Great new Host. Great videos.
Can I sign the petition, even though I'm from Denmark? Does that have any weight? I think I can get my friends to sign too.
@@thomasbell5283 Yes
I think you should put a verbal plug on every video, even just a short mention to go sign the petition. Not everyone will read the comments or the description. 💚✨
I knew the Dave Grohl story. He didn't pick up the hitchhiker, he just saw him on the side of the road and noticed the guy was wearing a Cobain t-shirt.
Thank you barb
I'm glad you wrote this. I heard the story too and there was no hitchhiker involved.
What we like changes. Kurt bought a lot of the Univox Hi-Flyer guitars and loved the pickups. These were Mosrite copies. Kurt owned a Mosrite MK IV and gave it to Pat (this was the “bathtub” Mosrite. He treasured it and put it in a bathtub with his journals when he went on tour to keep it safe. Unfortunately a pipe in an adjoining apartment burst IIRC and subsequently the tub became a back flow for the water. I understand this Mosrite was semi-damaged). He also owned a Semie Mosley made Gospel MK IV which was super rare (he probably didn’t know how rare it was, it was used on Nevermind and at the Nevermind rehearsal sessions. IIRC it was stolen out of his car around the time he was living in his car in L.A.(?) and now has been auctioned off a couple of times since for big money.) Earnie Bailey was working with Loretta Mosley to have a couple left handed Mosrites made for Kurt when he died (murdered!). Kurt was also really into Steve Albini’s all aluminium Valeno guitar and recorded a lot of In Utero on it. Around the time of In Utero Kurt played his white Univox Hi-Flyer on Saturday Night Live and in the Heart Shaped Box video. Kurt really did not like the Jagstang sadly and rarely played it. Had Kurt lived he would have to promote it.
If you want a really interesting story I can tell you you about the Courtney Love Mercury Guitars debacle and how she screwed them over BIG TIME. I would love to tell your viewers this story!
You should start your own channel man! You know your stuff
Nice mention about the Veleno. There is something about those. I checked one out early 2000's in Texas. Cool guitar.
Tell your story on ASF channel!!! Great so we see more stuff released by ASF!! What did he think of the stratocaster Fender? do you know???? id LOVE TO KNOW!!!!
You're wrong about the Jagstang, Theres really no where that was mentioned that Kurt didn't like it and he rarely played it due to evidence, He looked quite happy about it and content when interviewed by Narduwar backstage at the PNE Forum Canada in January 1994, and also he did talk about it on the MTV December 10 1993 Interview with Kurt Loder (During the last minutes of the Interview) He doesn't ever mention he did not like it. He was still softening up to the Jagstang, He only had a main major complaint about it and that was it not having contours, which was due to a result of miscommunication between Larry Brooks (Kurt's friend and Fender custom shop masterbuilder). He used it actually pretty frequently throughout the In Utero tour, more times than the Oranj Stank (Red mustang) and more than Skystang II, making it the second most used guitar on that tour only being beaten by his main workhorse the Skystang I. Otherwise couple of shows he played it almost the whole setlist.
@@mirata7748 he rarely played the Jagstang on the In Utero tour he played the 3 built-for-tour Mustangs mostly. Nirvana had European TV appearances on that tour, had he liked the Jagstang wouldn’t he have played it on TV if only to build hype? Think about it
Thanks asf! You’re always informative and great to watch. Also Ty for clarifying that KC was indeed naturally left handed, and was taught how to Write with his Right Hand. This is important because what’s bugging me atm is the fact that he was found unalive with his right hand on the trigger of the shot gun! This is yet another reason that points to foul play 👍☮️🌏
Damn great point. Didn't know kurt was a natural lefty. He played drums righty...etc
Thank you for all you do behind+in front of the camera. The self+familial sacrifice. It’s a good thing u have a very understanding, smart, rad wife like BritFox. We all see the vision+support (not $ wise I meant as far as the channel army-ASF rolls deep!)you as well. I’m the 1st to admit I could/should be doing more but I’m lazy. Let’s all acknowledge our shortcomings and really give back to Charles who should not have to fund it as well.
The guitarist of Mudhoney exclusively played mustangs and I think that really made an impression on Kurt
Tom Price from The U-Men was the first to play a Mustang in the scene and influenced Mudhoney and Nirvana.
@@knitkids8848 UMen are criminally overlooked
Kristen and Patty Schemel were responsible for great sound of Live Through This.
Yes
Exactly. Kurt's direct contributions were minimal, and any indirect contributions were presumably due to playing music along with Kristen during their hours-long phone conversations. I find it hard to believe that those two didn't put their phones on speaker mode and noodle on music!
Credit where due though… Courtney’s voice on that album is really good. Great screaming but also the softer singing.
I think Hole benefited from jamming with Kurt. While he may not have directly contributed with writing, he could have almost served more of a producer’s role informally suggesting variations to existing melodies and arrangements.
He could have also helped to shape and develop the material by being part of the jamming process.
WHAAATTTTT this is the first time in a while I’ve finally gotten a notification from u even though I have notifications one I DIDNT KNOW YOU HAD BEEN UPLOADING ‼️‼️‼️‼️
Yeah, YT only notifies a few thousand people. If they watch the video, they'll notify more or suggest the video in their feed. Personally, I feel like what's the point of asking people to subscribe if they're not going to notify everyone! Thanks for stopping by.
Flannel shirts were popular during the 80s to wear during the winter. The flannel shirts didn’t get to Goodwill all by themselves.
Right? People wore flannels bc it's cold during the pnw winters.
The thing with the magazine article- that's an editor who didn't read the interview and another team who patched in the pictures and organized the layout for the article. It had nothing to do with the journalist. He did his job by interviewing and reporting what Kurt Cobain said, but the magazine's editing dept fucked up and didn't do any diligence and misreported
interesting video. Good to see you ASF and Welcome Marie
🔘 Right on SpyFox. Thanks for the show
Love the co host, great back and forth
a guy at Walmart today asked me if I even listened to nirvana. cuz I was wearing the shirt. I informed I am something of a nirvana historian. Cuz I've seen every video you've posted lol
Billy and Dave know more than we all know just saying
💯 💯
Don't think you want to go "missing"
they both know what really happened.. its just a hunch, i cant stand dave
@@christyamar Dave's background is kinda sketchy to be honest.....they say now he may of had a relationship with Courtney before she even got to kurt. Years prior
@@junkiemonkey3317 She is what 60 now? Living alone in Wales. IDK people these days would do stuff with all the new tech cameras, people recording, drones etc.. I would LOVE to beat her up. Its easier to get caught now for murder.
I’ve lived in hot ass Texas my whole life and I was wearing flannel shirts 1980-90s.
What Kurt DID like about the Mustang is that they are made with not only a thin neck but a short scale length, only 23 1/4" compared to the Stratocaster which is 25 1/2". Kurt had small fingers so he liked the small frets. You are still right the he preferred Jaguars. He said that if Strats were made with a short scale he would want one. I was given a strat when i was 17, turns out it's a very rare MIJ short scale!!!
Interesting 🤔💜
Are you kidding me? Kurt had small fingers? He had beautiful long fingers! He wasn't that small as everybody think, he was skinny-yes but not short. He was a medium height guy, just near Noveselic he seemed small.
Maybe the only way Courtney would allow that article to be published made them write that last sentence in the article in order to be published
I’ve always associated Kurt with the Jaguar, never the mustang. Obviously it’s in the teen spirit video but live, the Jaguar was his baby and possibly one of only a small few that never got destroyed as the end of a show.
Very nearly destroyed it during live at paramount lol
@@stephenkane2464 I thought that was the black start? Don’t remember him wrecking the Jaguar at the show maybe apart from putting the head stock through the speakers but could be the strat off of the top of my head lol
@@river2352 he drags the jaguar with the cable all around the stage at paramount
@@stephenkane2464 the others had a worse fate at least, actually, Eric Erlandson ended up stealing that Jaguar so maybe not…
Exactly. If he was playing a Mustang that meant, we are gonna destroy this set
Does anyone remember when high end fashion designers started cranking out flannel shirts and charging a fortune for them! What a joke.
Because of Kurt when I was 11 in 94 I got a fender jaguar tobacco sunburst just like his 🤘🏽
Lol...as soon as you popped up on screen...it reminded me to put a dip in. haha
Lol
At this point, what hasn’t Courtney lied about? 😆 In regards to Billy, I get that he may have had reasons to be with a younger girl and while I don’t really know much about Chloe, other than I think she co-owns with Billy or owns a cafe of some kind, if she is the kind of person she comes off as in that interview, I guess Billy sort of ends up with people who love what his money brings. Love is love I guess. Thanks for the news!
And what else of
Kurt’s hasn’t she sold !!
Be nothing left for grandkids!!!
All up her arm and in crack pipes!!!
The couple reminds me of Nic Cage with the real big age difference and the very exotic kids names.
My guess would have been the jag wire. It’s my favourite of his guitars. I used to have a version of it fender released as the cobain model built with all the mods that he had in his.
Kurt did say at one time or another that the mustang was his favorite. I think it was in the Come As You Are book and reflecting back to when he regretfully smashed it on the PA board in Texas. The video when the Roadie got his revenge by pushing him back into the crowd while he was crowd surfing.
The woman/host is beautiful.
TRUE! I like Pumpkins & can't stand Billy Corrigan. #1 reason being that he loves Cuntney so much & will do anything for her. Also, about Dave in Ireland, it's on page 194 of 'The Storyteller'. Which is a great book. When I finished it, I screamed, 'I need more!!!' But it does say it was a Kurt t shirt, & not Nirvana. And Marie, I have had a MASSIVE crush on Dave Grohl since Nirvana, so I get the fascination. Though if my wish were to come true, I probably couldn't keep up with him at this point in life. But I could've for decade's. Now I'm 65 so I'm slowing down just a nth. And WELCOME Marie!
The Mustang seems to have been Kurt's preferred guitar for live performances, even if he preferred writing using a Jaguar. I know he ordered about 10 (custom) Mustangs for the In Utero tour, and I don't believe Fender had finished building them all at the time of his death.
Through he did the jagstang
Love her.....great articles
I own a Squire Mustang, and I personally have a lot of fun playing it. To be fair though, it's a newer model, and it has a different bridge than the ones Kurt played, so changing the strings isn't a complete nightmare.
Cool co host. I like her. Good choice.
Also liked fender jaguars. He would rebuild them to play the last song and while he kept his most valuable guitars. As far as it not being popular, neither was the Gibson Les Paul junior that became iconic for the whole Punk scene.
That journalist probably thought Kurt was using his Jaguar in the video lol.
And people definitely wore flannel before Kurt got famous and it wasn’t just loggers in Seattle who wore them.
The news just always pointed out grunge fans wore them.
But honestly, Kurt didn’t usually wear much flannel. Not very often at all.
Apparently kurt was in talks with the Leadbelly estate to pay 300 thousand dollars and include his fender jaguar in a deal exchange for leadbellys original guitar but the deal never got finalised as leadbellys estate were concerned of his love of smashing guitars and drugs so wanted to meet him in person to finalise the deal...I think the jaguar ended up going to Eric Erlandson which I think personally he didn't deserve....ive heard his jaguar and teen spirit mustang both referred to as his favourite guitars..im not stating facts I'm just going on what I've read and heard over the years..
The only thing Eric deserves is a flaming bag of dogsxit.
I also heard the jaguar went to Peter buck of REM. I think it's in a music video
if you watch the music video for doll parts by hole he's definitely playing kurts jag, not saying your wrong either I don't know who has it today?!@@stephenkane2464
It was claimed that Erlandson stole quite a few of Kurt’s guitars and threatened to blackmail Courtney.
@@buddingvenus8487 I would believe that. Erik is a lowlife scumbag who likely killed Kristen pfaff
Hi ASF great job. Have you looked into The Assassination of Kurt Cobain Black Rain please let us know what you think
Frusciante said that his red Mustang was his favorite guitar.
funny i remember hating that bridge and having to take the strings off to adjust the tiny screws on the bridge but it was on kurts jagstang!! why didnt you just add a strat style trem? or the jag floating trem
FYI, the link to the petition is broken!
I'll fix it. Thanks.
Editors add the pictures, headlines, links etc. The journalist usually just provides the text.
First cohost report had inaccurate information. There was no hitchiker in the story as said by Grohl himself. He stated that he was driving and saw a young guy with a Nirvana shirt. Also wanted to mention that now that Corgan got married, his wife better watch over her shoulder bc Love isn't going to let go of her best friend to another woman so easily. Now i want to know if Love attended the wedding?
I was born in 1982 also. It's certainly a generation that meshes 2 other generations. Our " generation " doesn't really fit into a category. We grew up when so many things , especially technology was changing rapidly. I don't want to be in a category. On a different note, have you finished the Rosemarie Carol video yet?
Steve Turner was using a blue stripe Mustang since Mudhoney’s inception. Way before Kurt
I'm 46. Bad decision Billy.
I remember reading that article in guitar world. Not only do I believe Kurt said that about the Mustang he was absolutely correct. Because of him I purchased a 69 competition Mustang. It was exactly like Kurt described. Difficult to setup, didn’t stay in tune, sounded like crap especially with stock pickups.
Also who is this beautiful woman in the video? She has an amazing smile and I like her personality.
I think you’ve been Shadowband. I didn’t get a notification that you went live or even that you posted a new video. I have my notifications set to all notifications from you and I didn’t receive anything. I was curious to see if you had posted anything so I checked. 21 hours and no notification.
If there is one truth to Courtney Love...she's an expert at lying about notes from Kurt Cobain...I have a sonic blue and Red Mustang because of him. My baby is also an original sunburst 66' Jaguar. His influence spread wide and far. Even the "Flannel of Guitars."
Just to add, I had 2 20 year old girls come up to my porch when I was in my 30's one night. One spoke for the other saying she had been watching me play guitar all summer. She was absolutely gorgeous. We messed around a few times but I decided ultimately it just wasn't right. It just felt weird even though she approached me. 🤷🏼♂
I was spawned in 83 my guy. I feel you. 0:31
Damn that’s wild kurt, Dave and Billy Corgan are getting married to each other
I’ve heard of power couples, but power THROUPLE? Never been done
I'm thinking Courtney and Kurt must have collaborated somewhat on Pennyroyal Tea - Courtney seems to have a certain affinity for playing that particular song with Hole.
In a 93 article Kurt was unhappy that she played it live with Hole after he specifically asked her not to. He even told Goldberg it was for Nirvana, not Hole. She did what she wanted with it against his wishes and he prolly just gave up.
@@AmericanSpyFox Ive herd her sing it and play it with kurt. ugh i hate it. I love it when he does it tho!
@@AmericanSpyFox LOL - I guess you would know :) Thanks for clarifying!
corgan’s like peter pan.
never grows up.!
😉😉😉
gosh.
he’s certainly likes his
high maintenance
barbies..
🤣😂😜
✌🏻🇦🇺🌏🤘🏻
He has grown up in the sense that he, like a lot of men of his age, has lapsed into various stupid conspiracy theories, and he spreads them on social media.
It's a fair point you make, but I have to disagree a little. I think he liked the quirkieness of the Mustang. Once he was successful, for the In Utero tour, he had fender send him several Mustangs (not Jags).
He loved and babied his Jag because it was unique and rare. Let's take him at his own word here. The Fender Mustang was his favorite guitar.
His favorite single guitar that he actually owned was that Jag... but his favorite model of guitar was clearly the Mustang.
I noticed some people are upset with me over the guitar. I didn't say anything about the guitar. I read what Kurt said about Mustangs. Personally, I think they were his favorite to destroy at the end of the set because they were inexpensive.
@@AmericanSpyFox lol
Yeah, he did smash a couple. if you watch closely, he always brings out a Strat for the last song or two... then proceeds to smash it to bits. There are websites dedicated to tracking every guitar he ever played live. Strats are by far the most smashed. I think that's because they were so easy to find left- handed models.
I'm just trying to share what I know from years of loving guitars and Nirvana... but, yes, it's funny to see how hurt some people are that the Mustang may not have been his favorite.
In my eyes, there are two favorites, in a way.
His favorite singular guitar, that particular Jag, and his favorite model in general, the Mustang.
Born 83 so im a gen weird too! 👊
Xennials!! 1977-1983!!!
Weird was the Hypercolor trend said age group fell for
Neil Young wore plaid flannel before Nirvana.
Thanks asf asf 😂
How come I can’t find a join button ? Or do u not have patron? If anyone know plz lmk cuz I want to join n support Mr Spy Fox n the Justice too for Kurt Cobain 👍👍🙏❤️🩹
Petition doesn't work
Actually if you are really in the “Know” his favorite guitar was a Mustang style guitar he had him self made by a guy Danny Ferrington. Look it up it’s FACT.
He broke guitars and put them back together many times when he wasn't rich.
Brother let me present you with the Official Real Deal Best Journalist award. I was a music journalist on and off for decades and you def are the real deal😘street cred for my home boy😘🫶👏👏👏 I used to live in Dublin Ireland but I’m in America now. Grohl’s aligned with the suicide story so I’m very disappointed in him. Ditto for Corgin. Unless they come out with the truth…waiting…
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I like Brittany the best for a side kick...just saying
I like Marie
I still pick up hitch hikers but then again, I'm not worth 7 figures
Jagwire
Where is Layne??
ITS NOT THE GUITAR ITS WHOS HOLDING THE GUITAR .KIRTS OWN WORDS
This guy picks Coban 's bones more than Courtney
Sorry I do think that you lost the plot. I was there. I was blown away to watch Nirvana on SNL. Even though I had already heard the Seattle bands on college radio and from friends. Dave and Kurt appear now to me to be a yin and yang of Nirvana. Maybe a Johnny Rotten and Steve Jones, if you will.
So I do think that to not recognize Soundgarden and what they did with the extraordinary vocal ability of their lead singer, even the ability of the lead singer of Pearl Jam for that matter.
I will own my generation X dissatisfaction with my favorite forms of music.
Even a pro makes mistakes. I'm a professional and apparently my business is pissing my wife off and she's not always angry with the things I do. 🤷🏻♂️
Excellent show very informative and appreciate your hard work Jesus loves you
I finally got one of the jagstangs a couple years ago...wanted one since I was twelve..it's ok. It makes me happy anyway. I use a Squier mustang way more often shockingly..it's easier to work on and change parts so..he was right about that. B.c. Rich are my favorite though.
Jaguars are an amazing guitar and they were supposed to be the best guitar leo fender made back in the day. People didn't get it tho and the Ventures and the beach boys were the only big rock stars who used them. Mustangs are retarded but cool and when tweaked are good. The irony is the bridge on the jag is horrible and while Kurt's had a completely diff type (his jag was seriously modded) most people replace them with a mustang bridge. Kurt said he loved his jag in the "corporate magazines still suck" article.
I was born in April 73
About flannel shirts thats totally not true!! We wore flannel shirts in the 80's punk rockers always wore flannels!!!
cunning isnt a positive way to describe a person
just wanna say, i can't stand billy corgan
First time Spyfox mounted a 20 year old at 46 he would marry her LoL Don't lie
Born in 1980 generation y
crogan writes some good stuff but the dudes a total dork , lets face it kurt was the coolest out of the era honestly novaselich is just as cool i always have seen dave as being the one who benifited from kurt dieing and you know what they say about guilt and look to the one who it benifits the most
and i just thought about all these moves could be done without the stars even knowing people at the top of the industry could sell more records without kurt around someone who was npot a liability not a junkie i wonder if the foo fighters combined record sales have beat nirvana , ff are one of the most overrated bands ever
Uhhh Courtney Love
@@buddingvenus8487 n0000 o ... come on get in this with me like I think Dave benefited the most Courtney is just Courtney who takes her seriously u think she's smart enough to do all this she was heavily addicted to heroin and made so many mistakes I think people didn't want to take a chance on Kurt anymore because he fought back all the time with this and that they wanted a talented guy associate with nirvana or in nirvana who would listen and play by thier rules poor Kurt was a victim of his friends who were being played like a fiddle I'm think higher up executive in the industry and where they got sloppy they were wzcked. Kurt was surrounded by sharks and junkie sharks . .... or Courtney paid cali
@@Authorityoneverything how did Dave benefit from having his source of income taken away from him?
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Is that the man ,with whom Courtney had cheeted Kurt?
One of these names doesn't fit 😂
It's pronounced Jig-uh-whar
Don’t really consider Smashing Pumpkins grunge. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, TAD, Mudhoney, Melvins, Skinyard are all grunge. Not Smashing Pumpkins.
Definitely not. Smashing Pumpkins were in Chicago doing their own thing. They had no idea what was happening in Seattle at the time. None of their early music even follows the fast, slow blueprint. Smashing Pumpkins were more of a gothy new wave band in the late 80s. Closer to the Cure than anything else.
Grunge was literally called "the Seattle sound." As in if you weren't a band from Seattle between 1984-1989...you're not it.
Unfortunately Karma isn't real...but Dave Grohl was born to play music to glorify God just like Kurt. I just hope 🙏 and pray they find him/and found Him. BC is all into some weird stuff...
Groohle is not fascinating. The fooo are not in the Jane's, soundgarden, Tool, bad brains, level. They mix more with Bush or creed. Billy Corgan is the Pumpkins like kerk is Nearvanas. People are so clueless. Try Random Dog
My favorite was when Kurt beat Billy's ass 😂 but I forgot that doesn't exist like anything else against the rainbow agenda 😂 unless it's being milked 😏
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@@scottcharney1091 ?? What I watched Kurt beat up billy 🤷
@@scottcharney1091 there is video too. Somewhere 🤣
Lol. No. Imagine fragile ass Kurt Cobain beating up Billy Corgan. Billy Corgan has an easy 6 inches on Kurt. Billy was also an athlete. Kurt weighed 130 lbs soak and wet.
Billy Corgan is the father of Frances Bean
I believe it
Billy got a trophy wife.
Born in 82 as well! who else?
There’s an MTV interview where someone off camera asks Kurt about the Jag-Stang and Pat laughs about it, Kurt says he still likes his Mustangs better.
The Jag-Stang has more Mustang DNA than Jaguar.
Kurt’s custom Ferrington guitar had zero Jaguar features.
And Jaguars weren’t significantly costlier than Mustangs back in the early 90s. The 24” scale length kept them both in the lower price tiers for Fenders. Vintage Jags still go for much less than Jazzmasters (25.5” scale like Strats and Teles).
And finally, Kurt had Fender send him 6 Mustangs and 0 Jaguars for the In Utero tour.
Idk why he stopped using the Jaguar before the In Utero tour but it seems he preferred Mustangs at least by that time.
More interestingly, Kurt liked his Telecaster best at the end according to Ernie Bailey and Ernie was going to work something out with Mosrite.
Flannel was always in my life in the 70s and 80s plus the stoners, heshons wore Flannel as long as I can remember .
So shes a GenerationX-pert! Lmao
If you were born in 1982 you are a millennial. I was born in 1978 so Im in Gen X.
he's an elder millennial! What about 79 or 80?
@@christyamar 79 is the last year for gen x. 80 is the first year for millenials.
There are different time lines all over. Who really cares? Im in my 40’s. Im who the F I wanna be. People getting stuck on generational time lines, it’s pretty lame.
@@buddingvenus8487 The uploader cares evidently since he mentioned it. Im just clarifying the lines that have been around for decades. Does it really matter? No but its important to be accurate with the facts.
@@sole__doubt people getting stuck on gen x this, millennial that, is funny. I like music and style from all generations. I’m 42. It really doesn’t matter. I don’t fit in with any millennials. It’s really a back handed way to try and insult generations. Haha
Uh I wear Flannel shirts because of my grandfather, he wore them damn near every day from mid September till mid May he wasn't a logger he wasn't from Seattle, he was from DuBois Pennsylvania he was a state trooper and railroad police then he worked at the Philadelphia Inquire and then worked for PECo (or as we called is PE, Philadelphia Electric Company) I have pictures from the 70s and 80s of my grandfather in a flannel shirt at PE in the workshop drinking coffee doing a crossword puzzle on the tablesaw with the blade retracted all the way in to make a flat surface.
And I have pictures of me in the very early 80s wearing little tiny flannel shirts at the age of 3 or 4... Maybe 5
So your comment about people only started wearing them because of Kurt is wrong and completely out of touch with reality... you should stop projecting your follower poser reason for wearing flannel, onto everyone else. In other words speak for yourself. You.. you only started wearing flannel because of Kurt...
And to be honest... you are exactly the type of person Kurt said he didn't like... the kid who only dressed a certain way because they saw a band dress that way or had their hair a certain way because he did...
damn dude that seems pretty harsh tbh. I never wore flannel shirts I always wore polos like ralph lauren and then I got into american eagle, in fact you may hate this but american eagle occasionally produces nirvana shirts, which I know everyone is going to hate, and I don't buy them. But I always liked guitar, particularly acoustic guitar. Which, ok like the drummer for Red Hot Chili Peppers is more like it. I can remember when people even here in the south east would buy sweaters and then tie them around their waist like grunge rockers do, for a time. You could totally dress punk or whatever other style and not be of the mindset or perhaps if you would go so far as to say that you're for or against a certain genre. It's all in whatever makes us unique individuals. I mean Kurt wore women's dresses, and you're grandfather I would wager didn't wear dresses, so I think that's more like what he was talking about, is like frat guys who bash on queer people and such. And disagree if you want to.
@@wednesdaysangel1 I wore dresses and makeup in highschool.. and my grandfather didn't care. I'm not gay, I did it to draw attention away from my LGBT friends so they wouldn't get bullied and i still got my yearbook from 94- 95 to prove it...
@@KenMabie Why seemingly so upset about over that remark in the video? Lol, he's not lying or projecting, of course people wore flannels prior to grunge music becoming popular, but it wasn't considered a trend or something that people were rushing out to buy till the early/mid 90s when grunge became big. I was barely a preteen but I vividly remember the "trendy" shops for preteen/teens in my mall suddenly started selling ridiculously overpriced flannels and tons of my classmates started wearing them around 92-93. In the same way that 80's hair metal bands influened and made certain clothes and styles trendy in the 80's, grunge DID popularize the flannel among younger people in the 90's, like it or not. I don't think pointing out that fact makes anyone a poser. Prior to grunge, flannels were mostly considered "middle aged dad " clothes or the stereotypical lumberjack type shirts. Grunge in the 90's just happened to make them "cool" among a younger gen. Personally as a teen girl back then, I didn't care for them. I also knew boys who rocked dresses, makeup and nail polish in middle school around the same years you mentioned. Though, they were mostly the goths who liked Twiggy Ramirez from Marilyn Manson. Wasn't anything ground breaking in 95, at least not where I lived, you sound as if you want a trophy or something.
aye buddy you okay??
@@bayar_ yea thus guy is a little gratuitous with his upsetness lol
@11:48 So Dave Grohl doesnt help Kurt and let him day.Years later same sory with his drummer and keep him touring till his death..oke
Yea it's really weird. And foo fighters are playing these gigs with what seems like no remorse at all?? No acknowledgement that their best friend and drummer just fkn died In a very tragic way? I would end the band
Dave and kris are shady. Those two must have known something and are deciding to keep their mouth shut. Never liked Dave.
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