The Strange History of WEEZER (they were never “emo”)

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  • Weezer are one of the biggest influences on emo music, especially the blue album and "Pinkerton." But Weezer were never really emo, and didn't want to be.
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    0:00 Intro
    1:17 Early years of Weezer
    4:48 "Pinkerton" & hiatus
    6:53 Green album, "Maladroit" & "Make Believe"
    10:42 Red album & "Raditude"
    13:35 Was Weezer ever emo?
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  • @HimothyBurton
    @HimothyBurton 2 месяца назад +304

    I will never forget about 6 years ago, telling my coworkers I would go to a Weezer concert. And my coworker goes "Weezer makes music for selling HP computers." And it makes me laugh to this day lol

    • @the_kombinator
      @the_kombinator 2 месяца назад +6

      Compaq... Compaq computers.

    • @HimothyBurton
      @HimothyBurton 2 месяца назад +7

      @@the_kombinator I just like the thought of Hash Pipe playing while looking at a HP Pavilion 6835 for sale

    • @JayBigDadyCy
      @JayBigDadyCy 2 месяца назад +1

      This is... Incredibly accurate 😂😂

    • @Elizath
      @Elizath 16 дней назад +1

      Literally the buddy holly vid came with windows 95

    • @calystafuller7388
      @calystafuller7388 8 дней назад

      Are you the vvOah guy on ifunny

  • @My_Naginta
    @My_Naginta 2 месяца назад +113

    "Get down party anthems for agoraphobics." I would love if someone described my music like this

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 2 месяца назад +3

      That would actually be a pretty great title for a Weezer album, describes them rather perfectly.

    • @My_Naginta
      @My_Naginta 2 месяца назад +1

      @torstenscholz6243 it reminded me of Nine Inch Nails after thinking about it lol

    • @CIA_Gnome_Patrol
      @CIA_Gnome_Patrol Месяц назад

      That review excerpt could've been positive lol

  • @DrProfessorMD
    @DrProfessorMD 2 месяца назад +103

    I saw Weezer and No Doubt at the same show. It was pretty neat.

    • @Sasquatch10
      @Sasquatch10 2 месяца назад +5

      Don't speak.

    • @shodai2054
      @shodai2054 2 месяца назад

      Love coldrain

    • @RudieObias
      @RudieObias 2 месяца назад +1

      I saw that tour too. We also got Civ as the opener in Cleveland, Ohio

    • @girthquake9655
      @girthquake9655 Месяц назад +1

      How neat is that...

    • @DrProfessorMD
      @DrProfessorMD Месяц назад

      @@girthquake9655 Pretty. It was pretty neat.

  • @restlessapprentice
    @restlessapprentice 2 месяца назад +72

    I get wanting to keep the video short, but neglecting to talk about their comeback with EWBAITE and The White Album and chalking everything past Raditude as more of the same feels a bit disingenuous. Weezer had fallen out of popularity pretty hard and are now consistently prominent with most of their newer albums. Pacific Daydream (while not an album I care for personally) was all over the radio when it came out, which had not been the case for the band in the 5-6 years prior. Would have been interesting to at least mention their comeback and transition into a mainstay legacy band.

    • @theblan1k0ne
      @theblan1k0ne 2 месяца назад +7

      fr though, and the absolute jump in popularity at around mid to late 2023

    • @elicash233
      @elicash233 2 месяца назад +8

      Right!!! EWBAITE and the White Album are tremendous and can’t be glossed over. Cant make a video like this and then be like “yea the last 15 years aren’t important enough to talk about”

    • @clarkarussell
      @clarkarussell 2 месяца назад +8

      You just made my heart happy. I thought the White album was just my guilty pleasure. I didn't know anyone out there loved it like I love it. I found my people

    • @robbygotshall
      @robbygotshall 2 месяца назад +11

      I damn near thumbs-downed the video for this reason. White Album and OK Human are generally considered great even by old school fans, while I personally have loved everything since White Album. It’s a shame to omit that.

    • @alvadrive42
      @alvadrive42 22 дня назад +1

      Preach

  • @leelermakesmusic
    @leelermakesmusic 2 месяца назад +170

    I loved that Buddy Holly was hidden in Windows 95.

    • @RatelHBadger
      @RatelHBadger 2 месяца назад +11

      How many people discovered them through that install CD?

    • @kage6613
      @kage6613 2 месяца назад

      ahhhh memories.

    • @schwazelbacher
      @schwazelbacher 2 месяца назад

      Yup

    • @the_kombinator
      @the_kombinator 2 месяца назад

      I think I may have it on an OEM CD still - Retrogamer.

    • @JWickyJr13
      @JWickyJr13 Месяц назад +1

      That's exactly how I discovered them. I was a big fan of watching old Happy Days reruns on Nick at Nite and I remember being confused as a kid because I thought it was a clip from the show. Imagine my surprise when i saw this band named Weezer had a new song out. I was like, wouldn't they be really old? Haha

  • @bt0694
    @bt0694 2 месяца назад +92

    When I was a sup at a call center I had this 19 yr old hipster kid (maybe a prototype hipster it was 2001) named Shane on my team. He LOVED Weezer so much! We became friends quickly discussing music in our 1-1s instead of his stats. He DEMANDED I listen to Pinkerton, he said it was the best album that had ever been made. That was how I felt about I brought you my bullets, so we traded albums for a week… sadly he died in a car wreck that week… I still have his Pinkerton album.

    • @KasCalwein
      @KasCalwein 2 месяца назад +28

      That story turned dark very quickly

    • @FreddyFunderbunz
      @FreddyFunderbunz 2 месяца назад +16

      Did u get ur cd back?

    • @kage6613
      @kage6613 2 месяца назад +6

      not a prototype that was like the peak of hipsters 1998-2003 before that it was called "scenester" and they were usually actually involved in a music scene and not just trying to be fashionistas cosplaying as band members. sorry about your friend

    • @bt0694
      @bt0694 2 месяца назад +5

      @@FreddyFunderbunz yeah his mom gave it back to me, she told me to keep his since it was just “noise”

    • @capnjames
      @capnjames 2 месяца назад +1

      @@kage6613they were represented in various media of the time too like in king of the hill, usually the butt of a joke but funny nonetheless

  • @shiko098
    @shiko098 2 месяца назад +157

    I remember when Emo wasn't associated with fringes, eyeliner and My Chemical Romance.
    It was all stripy jumpers, thick rimmed glasses, Dashboard Confessional, Death Cab for Cutie and Jimmy Eat World.

    • @Bassmanhill84
      @Bassmanhill84 2 месяца назад +6

      Right? Same here

    • @xenos_n.
      @xenos_n. 2 месяца назад +19

      90's emo was way better for sure.

    • @yuckytails7729
      @yuckytails7729 2 месяца назад +10

      I remember the word “emo” doesn’t even exist and it was just hardcore punk in the 80s

    • @SconnerStudios
      @SconnerStudios 2 месяца назад +8

      Saves the Day too. Nobody ever gives credit to Saves the Day even though they were the most influencial band of creating that whiny pop punk nasal vocals you hear in simple plan or new found glory.

    • @SconnerStudios
      @SconnerStudios 2 месяца назад +46

      @@yuckytails7729 I remember when "punk" didn't exist in the 1100s and it was just Greogorian monk chanting. Good times, smoked a ton of weed.

  • @QueLoKevin
    @QueLoKevin 2 месяца назад +54

    That SNL skit spoke so much to basically all band fandoms

    • @Driver8takeabreak
      @Driver8takeabreak 2 месяца назад +9

      Outside of Van Halen, I'm not sure any band has quite the division of its fans that weezer does.
      That skit nailed it. I was so impressed and shocked they aired it, given the likely small slice of the audience that would really get it.
      And that's a Todd original.

    • @Mitchthemysteryman
      @Mitchthemysteryman 2 месяца назад +5

      I guarantee you they did it because “hey, with glasses, Matt Damon looks a little like Rivers Cuomo.”

    • @Dick_Weapon
      @Dick_Weapon Месяц назад

      "Weezer died when Matt Sharp left!"
      I waited for years to hear someone else say that.

  • @jazzmasterbator
    @jazzmasterbator 2 месяца назад +110

    I taught myself guitar by playing blue album songs every day. Pinkerton is one of the most important albums to me. Those first two albums did a lot to shape my highschool years. Pinkerton is the fucking best.

    • @KageMorghulis
      @KageMorghulis 2 месяца назад +2

      Me too! What part of the world do you live in? Wanna start a band? (Edit) I realized that sounded kinda ‘bot-ish’ I swear I’m real and I wanna play rock music.

    • @rychier6994
      @rychier6994 2 месяца назад

      Agreed 🤘🤘

    • @BackStreetMan
      @BackStreetMan 2 месяца назад

      Yes

    • @SuperStrik9
      @SuperStrik9 2 месяца назад

      I remember watching the music video for Buddy Holly on Windows 95. At the time I was blown away that you could watch music videos on a computer lol. Things have changed slightly since then lol.

    • @dethkev
      @dethkev 2 месяца назад +1

      I had no idea Pinkerton was so reviled back then. El Scorcho is one of my favorite songs :(

  • @TikkiNikki
    @TikkiNikki 2 месяца назад +28

    Man, Weezer' Hash Pipe was my "Stairway to Heaven" when I showed my friends that I play guitar lmao I don't mean to brag, but I can play them 3 chords like a champ 👊

  • @JerryLantz
    @JerryLantz 2 месяца назад +17

    I love "Heart Songs" because he talks about how Nevermind got him more interested in making music. Also, you should do a video on Bright Eyes. Conor Oberst is a genius and their music is so varied that it's insane

  • @YamiVT
    @YamiVT 2 месяца назад +56

    Weezer is the Tailor Swift of lonely dudes

    • @robertgerow670
      @robertgerow670 2 месяца назад +13

      A while ago there was a viral tweet asking if guys had someone who understands them like Taylor swift understands girls and I responded with Rivers Cuomo lol

    • @Sasquatch10
      @Sasquatch10 2 месяца назад +1

      That's a kinda accurate assessment tbh.

    • @kaomatic
      @kaomatic Месяц назад

      stahp

    • @bangujangID
      @bangujangID Месяц назад +1

      Am a huge fan and I approve this. its actually quite TRUE. Hear hear

    • @7Lace77
      @7Lace77 Месяц назад

      ​​@@robertgerow670I don't get it, he just seems whiny. Or is that it with Miss Swift?

  • @mcwildstyle9106
    @mcwildstyle9106 2 месяца назад +156

    I think i remember that I called weezer “the Beatles if they make depressing shit sometimes”

    • @finnishere3021
      @finnishere3021 2 месяца назад +10

      Thats a terrible comparison mcwildstyle

    • @mcwildstyle9106
      @mcwildstyle9106 2 месяца назад +1

      @@finnishere3021🤷

    • @notanotherjamesmurphy5574
      @notanotherjamesmurphy5574 2 месяца назад +5

      it sounds about right to me

    • @zackzallie8735
      @zackzallie8735 2 месяца назад +7

      The Beatles if they combined McCartney and Lennon into one nerd.

    • @JammerAma
      @JammerAma Месяц назад +2

      The Beatles did make depressing shit

  • @golfboy83
    @golfboy83 2 месяца назад +33

    I didnt really listen to Pinkerton until about 2004. I was in college and I think I could relate a bit more to the darker themes. But I basically only listen to Pinkerton, Blue, and Green.

    • @say12thebear
      @say12thebear 2 месяца назад

      I feel like college is the perfect time to listen to Pinkerton haha.
      Them and bands like Dinosaur Jr and Pavement

    • @slashtrio
      @slashtrio 2 месяца назад

      Always loved the blue album but wasn’t really following them when Pinkerton came out. Gave a listen around 2002 and thought it was awesome. Pinkerton and Blue are far and away my favs, green is okay. I can’t say I like anything after that for some reason. Those first couple of albums just work for me.

    • @amandathemystic1828
      @amandathemystic1828 Месяц назад

      The Blue Album and Make Believe for me ✨👍

  • @cjklemonski1938
    @cjklemonski1938 2 месяца назад +26

    When Pinkerton was still near universally disliked, it was probably the most played CD in the Death Threat tour van

    • @noneofyourbusiness1114
      @noneofyourbusiness1114 2 месяца назад

      Howso?

    • @cjklemonski1938
      @cjklemonski1938 2 месяца назад +1

      @@noneofyourbusiness1114 I'm not quite sure what the confusion is. It was playing in the van CD player on tour more than anything else

    • @jgdn-ow5mh
      @jgdn-ow5mh 2 месяца назад

      Say what?! That’s awesome Hahahaha

    • @kage6613
      @kage6613 2 месяца назад +2

      those were the LAST DAYZ that Weezer was actually cool... lol ;P

    • @noneofyourbusiness1114
      @noneofyourbusiness1114 2 месяца назад +3

      @@cjklemonski1938 oooo you are in death threat!
      I just was confused thinking how would this mofo even know that

  • @superheard1980
    @superheard1980 2 месяца назад +66

    Weezer added the element of what’s now called, “Nerd Culture” to Music. Something I didn’t know that I needed. I thought Nirvana completed my 14 year old self. 😅 Love this band.

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 2 месяца назад +7

      Weezer were the perfect nerds before that even was a thing. I always loved their nerdy personas and that they were the perfect anti-rockstars that looked so normal and didn't even try to seem cool, but managed to be anyway.

    • @MrBeen992
      @MrBeen992 Месяц назад +1

      But you are not a nerd, right ?

  • @bsncoleman5341
    @bsncoleman5341 2 месяца назад +8

    Can we please talk about how the music video to “Pork and Beans” is the perfect love letter to the early days of the internet? Seriously, if you haven’t watched it since it first debuted, go watch it right now and tell me that it doesn’t make you yearn for “the good ol’ days”. It seriously makes me tear up, wishing to live those early, younger years again, because you never really know how great things were until it’s in the past.

    • @suqadiqniwa
      @suqadiqniwa 26 дней назад

      Its like if youtube rewind was a mv

  • @JeffreyMcLain
    @JeffreyMcLain 2 месяца назад +39

    Jesus man, I really appreciate this channel. I don't have the time or brain space lately to really be in the music scene the way that I once was and how I ideally would want to be. Enjoying listening to stuff about bands and history etc, shit just hits the spot and helps me make space in the ol' grey matter for shit I actually care about. Thanks for the work man.

  • @ceejluige4816
    @ceejluige4816 2 месяца назад +12

    You know, while I liked the Blue album a lot, when Pinkerton came out it instantly became one of my favorite albums of all time. It's still in my top 3 for sure 30 years later. I honestly had no concept that everyone universally hated it until years and years later. Makes me wonder what the fuck my psyche was up to back then as a 15 year old, depressed, punk "freak". And truthfully, it did pave the way for me to get into bands like The Get Up Kids and Saves The Day. So if you want to say Weezer isn't emo, that's fine, but Pinkerton was a perfect gateway into emo music.

  • @lcourni
    @lcourni 2 месяца назад +8

    As a 46yo WEEZER fan I have to mention the very good "Everything Will Be Alright in the End" album that seems like a bit of a redemption in recent years (2015 ?)

  • @RudieObias
    @RudieObias 2 месяца назад +4

    I was 16 when Pinkerton came out. I was a big fan of the Blue Album and I immediately bought Pinkerton at the Target across the street from my high school on release day. I remember feeling how different it was when “El Scorcho” was released as the first single prior to the album’s release and I still felt it was different and weird when I listened to the album for the first time, especially with the first track “Tired of Sex.” However, I didn’t come around to it until the second or third listen and then I fell in love with it.

  • @elosoguapo8137
    @elosoguapo8137 2 месяца назад +4

    I appreciate Finn bringing up the beginnings, because they’ve been largely forgotten. I was around 18/19 when Weezer arrived and they were 100% seen as a borderline comedy rock group steering into the alternative rock trend. First the band’s name was Weezer. Then we have sweater song, buddy Holly…was this really going to be received like Nirvana? What amazes and astonishes me now is that we’re still talking about Weezer and people do talk about them in the same breath as Nirvana. Not only that, the reigning champions of alternative rock music the Pixies toured and opened for them! It’s like some alternate reality was created. Some have woken up from this fever dream with questions posed like…was Weezer ever good?…I think these folks weren’t around when the blue album came out and was received similarly to the bloodhound gang, but that’s what it was millennials and Gen z.

  • @gnilssrof3483
    @gnilssrof3483 2 месяца назад +13

    Weezer was the band, that was like your friend, that never scored. You keep him along, cause you like him, but you really dont wanna be seen with him. You laughed at him, but you felt the pain.

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 2 месяца назад +3

      So true. They were the perfect nerd personas before being a nerd became cool. They really were the perfect normal-looking guys next door that seemed a bit nerdy and sometimes a bit awkward, but were great guys with a big heart.

    • @suqadiqniwa
      @suqadiqniwa 26 дней назад +1

      Yeap, being a great musician is rooted on being a great nerd. About time

  • @dabigdawg42042
    @dabigdawg42042 2 месяца назад +11

    I had no idea Pinkerton ever had a bad rep. I absolutely loved hearing it for the first time

    • @bltvd
      @bltvd 2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah I still have my original vinyl record from when it came out.

    • @volumecorps8086
      @volumecorps8086 2 месяца назад +2

      I think Pinkerton caught a lot of people off guard. Much like Nirvana and Nevermind three years prior, everyone I knew at the time owned the blue album no matter what their musical preferences usually were. It was the perfect pop album for it’s time when it was released.
      Pinkerton, with its harsh production and uncomfortable themes was a shock to anyone expecting another blue album. It was an acquired taste for a lot of people, me included.
      I’ll put it this way…I appreciated Pinkerton much more in my 30’s than I did when I first heard it at 19.

    • @ggmorgan7
      @ggmorgan7 Месяц назад

      I was also surprised to hear that Pinkerton was unpopular. I was in high school when it came out and my friends and I played it on repeat for months. Pinkerton will always be my favorite Weezwr album, followed by the Blue album.

  • @imalright2837
    @imalright2837 2 месяца назад +12

    Beverly Hills is a guilty pleasure of mine. I really hated it at the time but now every time I hear it it brings me back to the summer of 2005. I had to sit through it to get to listen to System of the down’s BYOB.

    • @noneofyourbusiness1114
      @noneofyourbusiness1114 2 месяца назад +1

      My elementary school always played it before the school news ❤

    • @the_kombinator
      @the_kombinator 2 месяца назад +2

      I heard the song in Poland in 2005 at my grandmas on a visit, coming out of her Unitra radio. I recall hearing so many iconic songs from that radio in the 90s - Blur (boys and girls), a bunch of Greenday songs, and what was going on in Poland, France, and Europe at that time, as well as some 80s classics that brought me back to my early childhood.
      I wish I kept that radio after her death. It had a Kolorofon output!

  • @Andelaz
    @Andelaz 2 месяца назад +13

    Old Weezer ftw.
    Nr. 1 definetely Pinkerton.
    Nr. 2 Blue Album
    Lost interest after the green Album.
    Sh*t, i'm old...

    • @theblan1k0ne
      @theblan1k0ne 2 месяца назад +8

      Please listen to EWBAITE, White, and OK Human. They're no Blue and Pinkerton, but they sure as hell are close in terms of quality.

    • @Chucknorrisatemybaby
      @Chucknorrisatemybaby 2 месяца назад +2

      @@theblan1k0neI fully endorse this.

    • @ferdusmohamad1438
      @ferdusmohamad1438 2 месяца назад +1

      Same. Old. I only trust myself with Blue and Pinkerton.

    • @warmsignal
      @warmsignal Месяц назад

      @@ferdusmohamad1438 Maladroit is legitimately great and I consider it as part of "old Weezer". It's a very overlooked album. I think a lot of people who wrote them off after green album, didn't bother to listen to it.

  • @lougaru2445
    @lougaru2445 Месяц назад +3

    Excellent closing thoughts about Pinkerton being a one-off and not the identity of Weezer. More on that later.
    Fans could rejoice that Rivers Cuomo's solo albums (Alone I and II) featured demos from Songs From The Black Hole, which were essentially Pinkerton rejects.
    Original bassist Matt Sharp was important to the beginning of Weezer. His post-Weezer band The Rentals had some success, and for a little while their keyboard player was Maya Rudolph (Saturday Night Live).
    Weezer's subsequent bassist Mikey Welsh passed away at 40. He was released from the band at the time.
    I think there are two kinds of emo bands: Bands that are power-pop bands disguised as emo bands, and bands that are hardcore/punk disguised as emo. I thought I loved emo for decades, but now I understand I truly love power pop, so I listen to a lot of 1st Wave late 70s early 80s stuff now.

  • @DavidAllenMD
    @DavidAllenMD 2 месяца назад +15

    pink triangle was a great song

  • @jamesmotiv8989
    @jamesmotiv8989 2 месяца назад +3

    My sister gave me the blue album when i was like 11 and it changed my world. At 13 I bought Pinkerton (2003) and it fit right in with my punk/emo/post hardcore taste nicely. 2 of my fav albums of all time.

  • @ottomattix86
    @ottomattix86 2 месяца назад +3

    I saw them in winnipeg a few years ago. They played tight and were heavy with energy for me. They just played the hits and that's all we needed.

  • @ramblingsunglassesguy
    @ramblingsunglassesguy 2 месяца назад +6

    I completely disagree with your point on their albums after Raditude, while Hurley may have disappointed, EWBAITE and White are considered to be huge returns to form, and while there have been disappointing albums like Black or Pacific Daydream, most people agree from what I've seen love their newest stuff like OK Human and SZNZ.

  • @aaronstreet2744
    @aaronstreet2744 2 месяца назад +4

    I just found your channel and I am really enjoying your videos. Here's a list of bands I'd love to see you cover in your videos: Fugazi, At The Drive-In, The Get Up Kids, Cursive, Hot Water Music, Thursday, Braid, and The Velvet Teen. Thx!

  • @brupkin1177
    @brupkin1177 2 месяца назад +2

    Listened them for real in a 90s indie night on a nightclub early this month, they played say it ain't so and everyone was exited singing alone, i loved the energy at that moment, been thinking about it for weeks, it was really something special, i have heard of them but had not payed attention and lived in the moment like i did that time

  • @tomascox8748
    @tomascox8748 2 месяца назад +3

    To be fair, after the stinkers that were Make Believe and the albums that followed, they did release a couple of gems that are regarded among their fans as some of their very best, reminiscent of the Blue Album era with "Everything Will Be Alright In The End" (2014) and the "White Album" (2016).
    They have such a vast discographt that there's bound to be a lot of bad albums, but also some good ones in between.

  • @ibidoofd9293
    @ibidoofd9293 2 месяца назад +7

    I love all of Weezer. Do i like their older stuff more? Yes. But their newer stuff? The white album? All my favorite songs? FUCKING INCREDIBLE! Thanks Weezer. Thanks Rivers!

    • @robertgerow670
      @robertgerow670 2 месяца назад

      White album rules

    • @theblan1k0ne
      @theblan1k0ne 2 месяца назад +1

      hell yea, and EWBAITE

    • @robertgerow670
      @robertgerow670 2 месяца назад +1

      @@theblan1k0ne I don’t like EVERYTHING they’ve done but I like at least some stuff from every album. And I honestly think SZNZ was some of their best work in years

    • @theblan1k0ne
      @theblan1k0ne 2 месяца назад

      @@robertgerow670 wait wat I was just saying that everything will be alright in the end is as amazing as white

    • @robertgerow670
      @robertgerow670 2 месяца назад

      @@theblan1k0ne I got you, sorry if I worded that confusingly 😛 I was kind of re-responding to your original comment that you love all of Weezer
      I used to love white and EWBAITE pretty equally, but over time I still really like white but I don’t quite like EWBAITE as much anymore 🤔 I dunno why

  • @SMJSmoK
    @SMJSmoK 2 месяца назад +2

    Ok that intro with the hardcore music with pinch harmonics accompanied by the Island in the Sun video was pure genius lol.

  • @MrNavidad
    @MrNavidad 2 месяца назад +5

    I enjoyed Raditude, but that was during my high school years so maybe that's why

  • @gringogreen4719
    @gringogreen4719 2 месяца назад +3

    The "Blue Album" and "Pinkerton" is really more like Radiohead's "The Bends" and "Pablo Honey" respectively. Moments in time that the bands and artists moved away from.
    If you do like "The Bends" check out a band named kent (yes, kent) in their album "Isola" as that is pretty much the spiritual successor of that album. Also check out Gene's "Olympian" as well as it definitely touches that same vein of Alternative music.😉👍✨

  • @loompy1440
    @loompy1440 2 месяца назад +1

    Really enjoyed this one fint. I’ve still never listened to Pinkerton, but you’ve gotten me close a couple times. lol

  • @charstrong9822
    @charstrong9822 2 месяца назад

    I appreciate that you did a Weezer video ❤ I hope you cover more bands like them!

  • @themusicofwerewolfbickensd8847
    @themusicofwerewolfbickensd8847 2 месяца назад

    GREAT video, amazing work. ❤

  • @larsFTW5
    @larsFTW5 2 месяца назад +2

    Surprised no mention of Matt Sharp as the reason the first two albums have a different sound about them than the rest

  • @maxpalmer3212
    @maxpalmer3212 2 месяца назад +7

    I got into weezer this year they are really good

  • @whatistau
    @whatistau 2 месяца назад +2

    I remember seeing Hash Pipe on mtv and i loved the guitars on that so much i wnwt and bought the album the same day i wanted to hear the song again. Simple pages, Glorious days, Island in the sun among the best was such a vibe, felt like a fever dream like Nirvana went on a Spring break.

    • @devenscience8894
      @devenscience8894 2 месяца назад +1

      "Photograph" is my favorite song on the Green Album.

    • @whatistau
      @whatistau 2 месяца назад

      yeas definetely @@devenscience8894

  • @U570
    @U570 Месяц назад

    Great video, agree with most considerations, well thought

  • @vibetech89
    @vibetech89 2 месяца назад +6

    I don't care about Weezer, but the only thing i know that Nickelback was black metal.

  • @Chucknorrisatemybaby
    @Chucknorrisatemybaby 2 месяца назад

    Great video. I highly recommend their later albums, Everything Will Be Alright In the End and The White Album. The later of which has strong Pinkerton vibes. Also, their album OK Human, which is all orchestral, is really fucking great and worth digging into. It’s different but man is it good.

  • @patrickwade757
    @patrickwade757 2 месяца назад +1

    good vid Finn! thanks man

  • @Shaigorath
    @Shaigorath 2 месяца назад +1

    The first time I found out about Weezer was I when I first installed Windows 95. The video for Buddy Holly was included to test Windows media player in the original win95 cd.

  • @SelfReassuringTitle
    @SelfReassuringTitle 2 месяца назад +4

    I remember freaking out when I found out when the blue album was released, I figured because of “Beverly Hills” coming out when I was a teenager they were younger lol

  • @dylan_monument
    @dylan_monument 2 месяца назад

    Great video Finn. Love the first Weezer album and then kind of just songs here and there on each record but I actually do think Pinkerton was a cool unique record that was under appreciated at the time but for that record to follow up the blue album with that I kind of get it haha

  • @younganton6405
    @younganton6405 22 дня назад

    My first concert was Weezer in 1996. Pinkerton tour at La Luna in Portland Oregon. I was what.. 10 years old? Absolutely lit. GOAT’d band

  • @Textile_Courtesan
    @Textile_Courtesan 2 месяца назад

    Great video! I am a die hard Weezer fan since I really started listening a decade ago. They were that band on the radio but I finally bought a few albums and I was hooked. My frequent saying is "Weezer has a song for that" because Rivers is so prolific in his content. In a sad mood and want to stay sad? Weezer has a song for that. In a sad mood and want to feel better? There's a song for that! Can't tell someone something, there's a song for that, too! My personal favourite album is 'Make Believe' and I think the whole thing is well paced and solid. Can't wait to see them in September! =w=

  • @skakirask
    @skakirask 2 месяца назад +1

    My band is doing a 30th anniversary tribute for the Blue Album in May. One of the greatest albums of all time, unironically.

  • @ShaneLibrarian
    @ShaneLibrarian 2 месяца назад +3

    I remember that the install disk for windows 95 had the video for buddy holly on it.

    • @ShaneLibrarian
      @ShaneLibrarian 2 месяца назад +1

      pinkerton is my favourite weezer album.

  • @gabrielalvarez7046
    @gabrielalvarez7046 2 месяца назад +1

    Listening to Pinkerton for the first time right now. I’m 40.
    It just sounds more like a demo than an album.

  • @TheRareVideosXL
    @TheRareVideosXL 2 месяца назад

    Great video as always.

  • @MrTonyFury
    @MrTonyFury 2 месяца назад +2

    I love that weezer just does whatever they want to do. They do what I do except that millions of people hear it and it's not available for free on soundcloud collecting 10's of views.

  • @torstenscholz6243
    @torstenscholz6243 2 месяца назад

    Great video as usual. I also never thought of Weezer being emo, or even pop punk, as some others claim. I never even considered them any specific genre, other than alternative rock. To me, they were always their own, unique thing that had pretty much created their own genre no one ever tried to copy. Also, I always loved that they seemed to be the nerdy, normal-looking, glasses-wearing anti-rockstars, who were a bit the US equivalent to Blur in the UK in that regard. But with that said, I'm rather surprised that they were actually rooted in the hardcore and metal scene and that they never aspired to be the funny nerd band, but actually tried to be serious. I never knew that and it changes my picture of the band completely.

  • @jcwareham81
    @jcwareham81 Месяц назад

    That part about him being disappointed the “Buddy Holly” video resulted in them being looked at comedically while instead hoping to have the same kind of impact as Nirvana makes me wonder if they took inspiration for the “Buddy Holly” video from the video for “In Bloom”.

  • @GunDrummer
    @GunDrummer 2 месяца назад +1

    “Tired of s*x” from Pinkerton is the first song I ever played on drums when I was 14.

  • @Codycreek
    @Codycreek 2 месяца назад

    Love the new intro!

  • @rychier6994
    @rychier6994 2 месяца назад +4

    Pinkerton is their best album by far, it's incredible. Blue album and Pinkerton are still by far their best works....they lost something when they reformed.....

    • @b.w.22
      @b.w.22 2 месяца назад +1

      I know it’s a really tired take, but Matt Sharp leaving really altered the balance of things. This isn’t so much because Matt had some secret sauce but because Matt seemed most able to identify and promote the Weezer in Rivers, a man who was shredding Yngwie licks a year prior. While Pat really opened River’s mind musically, it was Matt who singled out the “Weezer” songs in the 50 or so Rivers had written as demos and I think Matt always had a better sense of Weezer’s appeal than Rivers.
      Had Matt stayed, I think there may have been less Weezer albums and possibly a shorter lifetime as a band, but those albums would have likely hewed closer to what made Blue and Pinkerton so appealing, leaving the orchestral pieces and party anthems as Rivers solo work or music for a different band. It became all Rivers and I’m not sure that was always for the best.

    • @rychier6994
      @rychier6994 2 месяца назад +1

      @@b.w.22 yeah Matt sharp was very important, it might be a tired take but it's def true. 🤘🤘

  • @subparnaturedocumentary
    @subparnaturedocumentary 2 месяца назад +1

    i honestly didnt remember critics hating pinkerton back in the 90s when it came out i was like 14 in 96 i remember getting the cd as a gift from my aunt it was definitely popular with teenagers at the time.

  • @titusbc
    @titusbc 2 месяца назад +1

    Oh Pitchfork… its all good as they have now polished off the practice to returning to old reviews and giving new scores where often in hindsight they magically lift the rating lol.

  • @MedalionDS9
    @MedalionDS9 2 месяца назад +3

    Weezer was always geek rock to me... that had a weird diversion into what some call emo on Pinkerton but were never an emo band

  • @BlastBeatBreakdown
    @BlastBeatBreakdown Месяц назад

    I'm glad a went to a concert where they perform they played the Pinkerton album in its entirety.

  • @AlexHodgesYT
    @AlexHodgesYT 2 месяца назад

    another great video

  • @sabourovartem7304
    @sabourovartem7304 Месяц назад

    I think you're underestimating Island In The Sun - yeah, it's kinda mellow ballad, but is is also an odd remnant of the Blue/Pinkerton era in 2000s: it's a catchy pop song, quite Beach-Boys'y, and there's a mass of guitar distortion and feedback boiling just under the surface, but never quite break, but you know it's there if you listen carefully, and it's kinda beautiful.

  • @DrNutbag
    @DrNutbag 2 месяца назад +1

    Island In The Sun is not my fav song but was the hit of the spring & summer of 2001 and gives me all the vibes of going from jr high to high school and saying goodbye to many friends at a grad party I went to while it played in the background. So there's something to be said about that I suppose.

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 2 месяца назад +1

      Island in the Sun may not be their best song, but it's still beautiful and catchy as hell and one of the best chill-out ballads in rock history.

  • @lavisseregis830
    @lavisseregis830 Месяц назад

    Great analysis.
    2 personal additions as regards with Weezer’s late discography: the white album is a great Pinkerton copycat (the original being better than the copy obviously) and « Ok Human » is great and quite different from other albums

  • @jeremydisbrow9814
    @jeremydisbrow9814 2 месяца назад +2

    My friends have always placed Weezer in CollegeCore with bands like Nada Surf and Pixies

  • @GardenParkWV
    @GardenParkWV 2 месяца назад

    Finn, you should check out the album everything will be all right in the end. It may be their best work with that blue album, pop, and a little bit of darkness.!

  • @lewisclark1122
    @lewisclark1122 2 месяца назад

    From the later albums - The White Album, Everything Will Be Alright In The End and OK Human are really good.

  • @St33vr
    @St33vr 2 месяца назад +1

    Rivers did a video series called "let's write a sawng" It was a really interesting experiment in song writing via his fans. If I remember he never finished the song, but if you are a fan, it's worth checking out.

    • @decentsleep
      @decentsleep 2 месяца назад

      Ackshually, he did. It's called “Turning Up the Radio” and is pretty mediocre, imho.

    • @St33vr
      @St33vr 2 месяца назад

      ​@@decentsleep I didn't say the song was called that. Before there was a song and a name, the video titles were called "Let's write a sawng" part 1 through 16. That is why I said he did a "Video Series" in my original comment.

  • @geoffhurst6182
    @geoffhurst6182 2 месяца назад +3

    ❤You take your car to work, I’ll take my board❤

  • @shanevalcich9208
    @shanevalcich9208 2 месяца назад

    I saw weezer right before the green album came out, got to hear Hash Pipe and Island in the sun before release - drove through a blizzard to get there it was a top 10 shows of my life and I have seen thousands.

  • @prestong5869
    @prestong5869 2 месяца назад +2

    They peaked in 2008 with christmas with weezer

  • @mexiwolf009
    @mexiwolf009 2 месяца назад +2

    Man didn’t go into There comback albums in the 2010s. That’s a bummer.

  • @klausherrmann3054
    @klausherrmann3054 Месяц назад

    Speaking about emo: you have never made a deep dive on Sunny Day Real Estate or Mineral. I think that these bands (which never really considered themselves as being emo) are the main contributors for the bands that came after them and clearly were thought of being emo. These bands were the main drivers of the sad harmonies and melodies (the longing feeling) in that kind of music genre in the 90s. Of course they were influenced by rites of spring etc. but they took it to another level. So please cover them, it would be great.

  • @Jimmy-Mc
    @Jimmy-Mc 2 месяца назад +1

    I definitely wouldn't call them emo, but they existed in parallel to 2000s emo the whole time and frequently appeared on the alt charts next to emo bands, so I can see why they're associated.

  • @michaelflanagan1185
    @michaelflanagan1185 9 дней назад

    😮 that's crazy!! Pinkerton is my favorite album!!

  • @TheRaven8
    @TheRaven8 2 месяца назад

    This makes me want to take another listen to some albums. Thanks

  • @bobzmuda3456
    @bobzmuda3456 2 месяца назад

    kinda surprised there was no mention of river's leg surgeries/complications and subsequent drg usage between the blue album and pinkerton which is why its angrier/'sloppier'

  • @davei6452
    @davei6452 2 месяца назад

    Props on starting a video and going right into it. Was not into waiting 4 minutes of ads and crap. Thanks. Now do a beatdown video

  • @TranzparentMethods
    @TranzparentMethods 2 месяца назад

    I remember hearing "Undone" for the first time and I was taken aback by the diminished chords in the intro. You didn't hear that a lot outside of "experimental music" at the time. I was only 12, it was so haunting that when the first verse came in, I had goosebumps. Weezer is absolutely NOT EMO, but they DID inspired the Emo bands to follow. The story of "Pinkerton" is REALLY cool though, I remember that album being HATED, now it's considered a classic. I remember AllMusic, in like 97 or 98 giving it a two star rating, now they've changed it to a 5. SMH....

  • @BeardedAvenger-hn9cf
    @BeardedAvenger-hn9cf Месяц назад

    Haven't had time to read through every comment but has anyone pointed out that emo(core) goes back to mid-80s DC: Embrace, Rites of Spring, etc.

  • @rhys2004
    @rhys2004 2 месяца назад +1

    Every Weezer album just sounds different and unpredictable, and that's why I love this band.

  • @ianwilkes435
    @ianwilkes435 2 месяца назад +2

    I actually like some of their more recent things, meaning Van Weezer, and OK human (SZNZ was pretty bad tho)

  • @FractalRaver
    @FractalRaver 2 месяца назад +1

    I got my hash pipe! (Very strange lyrics in that one lol, not about hash, but the other lines lol). But it gives me a Metal-ish vibe. Also In Utero is great

  • @jacobahtone220
    @jacobahtone220 Месяц назад

    Pinkerton and Paul's Boutique both fall in the same category for me. I hated them when they came out because I was wanting more of the first album. Then about 10 years later I came to appreciate the genius that they are!!!

  • @johnkotchkowski7966
    @johnkotchkowski7966 2 месяца назад +2

    Weezer is a top 5 favorite band for me.
    Blue is my favorite record.
    I turn 28 next month, 2 days before Blue turns 30 :/

  • @ameralameddine
    @ameralameddine 2 месяца назад

    I discovered them from a windows 95 CD way I found in my cousin's drawer well after it had come out. There was the video of Buddy Holly on it, such a cool and random thing to put on there.

  • @aboutabrad
    @aboutabrad 2 месяца назад +1

    Before this video even begins, i need to say…Pinkerton is the greatest emo album of all time and while I dont insist that people agree with me that its a GOAT album, i do insist that you agree with me that it is an emo album.
    Blatantly emotional, introspective, self deprecating, and a little messy, Pinkerton was my 13 year old (in 1996) heart’s gateway drug into emo.
    Bought it at KMart the day it came out…

  • @shortlivedglory3314
    @shortlivedglory3314 2 месяца назад +20

    I never at any point until now ever heard of Weezer being called emo. Have I just been living under a rock?

    • @savedbythebelldeepdives
      @savedbythebelldeepdives 2 месяца назад +5

      Nah, it's just that Pinkerton was so "dark" and "edgy" that it gets lumped in to the fray. Rivers may have been self deprecating, but that's not the only hallmark of emo music.

    • @Skywohka
      @Skywohka 2 месяца назад +6

      They def influenced a lot of emo bands

    • @zackzallie8735
      @zackzallie8735 2 месяца назад

      Probably cuz Weezer influenced bands like Sunny Day Real Estate and even MCR, consider even covering My Name is Jonas with them on stage together.

    • @Kain128
      @Kain128 2 месяца назад

      @@zackzallie8735Where did you hear about them influencing SDRE? I've never heard of that connection and I don't hear any similarities between their music.

    • @patmakein4709
      @patmakein4709 2 месяца назад +1

      They were called emo as long as I’ve listened to them going back to the blue album. Also sunny day has been around just as long as weezer

  • @therrshow3238
    @therrshow3238 2 месяца назад

    😂😂 this has always been a contentious topic

  • @alexdflop
    @alexdflop 2 месяца назад +1

    If anyone needs an example of a latter-day Weezer song that’s awesome, I recommend checking out “Do You Wanna Get High?”

  • @styeiwehdeisfdo
    @styeiwehdeisfdo 2 месяца назад +2

    Weezer is Indie Rock because they swiped their sound and look (see the band Pavement for their look) mostly from Indie bands. The fact they're major label is immaterial because they formed in a time when majors were rampantly signing Indie bands from the jump and they were already a great accessible band. They're definitely not emo although they influenced it in the way Indie Rock did.

    • @torstenscholz6243
      @torstenscholz6243 2 месяца назад +1

      They certainly also had a huge influence on the garage rock revival in the late 90s to mid-00s, as bands like The Strokes, The Hives, The Killers, etc., certainly had a lot of inspiration from Weezer.

  • @stephaniemccracken4850
    @stephaniemccracken4850 2 месяца назад

    I think one detail worth mentioning is their original bass player Matt Sharp left after Pinkerton to form his own band, the Rentals. I feel like that's why their first 2 albums are very different, he helped write them.

  • @samuelmartens2269
    @samuelmartens2269 2 месяца назад

    devoted punk rock fan asking for finn's take on "SAVIORS" album from green day especially bobby sox