Butch Vig: From Smashing Pumpkins to Nirvana - Alternative Rock’s OG

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  • Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
  • Butch Vig is a highly respected musician, producer, and engineer, known for his innovative work in the alternative rock genre. He is perhaps best known for his work as the producer of Nirvana's breakthrough album, "Nevermind," which is widely considered one of the most influential albums of the 1990s. In addition to his work with Nirvana, Vig has also produced albums for a diverse range of artists, including Smashing Pumpkins, Garbage, and Foo Fighters. With a career spanning several decades, Vig has established himself as one of the most talented and versatile producers in the industry, renowned for his ability to capture the raw energy and emotion of a recording while also pushing the boundaries of what is possible in the studio.
    Video Time Stamps:
    0:00 The first recording Butch ever did
    6:58 First years in the recording studio
    14:55 Smashing Pumpkins I
    23:05 Drum talk
    26:09 Smashing Pumpkins II
    28:19 Smashing Pumpkins - I Am One
    38:13 Smashing Pumpkins - Daydream
    41:44 Kurt Cobain bootlegs himself
    45:15 Starting on Nevermind
    50:22 Recording Nevermind
    56:50 Nirvana - Lithium
    1:00:19 Nirvana - In Bloom
    1:06:10 Kurt Cobain and The Beatles
    1:11:06 Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit I
    1:16:49 Nirvana - On A Plain
    1:20:27 Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit II
    1:24:39 Siamese Dream
    1:27:53 Smashing Pumpkins - Cherub Rock
    1:32:38 Garbage
    1:42:57 Rock will come back to the forefront
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  • @RickBeato
    @RickBeato  Год назад +264

    If you guys want to see me do more travel content and interviews, please consider becoming a member of the Beato Club to enable me to do more of it.
    Check it out here: rickbeato.com/beatoclub

    • @themushtube42
      @themushtube42 Год назад +8

      Need a part 2! I want to hear him talk more about the discography of Garbage! Great interview Rick🙏

    • @ciAMkia
      @ciAMkia Год назад +4

      ​@TheMushTube Oh yeah! What great idea! Who doesn't love Garbage! They're a super band! You are inspired MushTube!

    • @andreaslandgren1681
      @andreaslandgren1681 Год назад +2

      This was so great. First garbage record and 2.0 finishing it of was fun. Thank you!

    • @neilmurphy7594
      @neilmurphy7594 Год назад +1

      The interviews you're cranking out lately are freaking awesome.

    • @tommygoniu
      @tommygoniu Год назад

      Mutt Lange interview would be very interesting. Think of all the acts he's produced.

  • @AaronCouron
    @AaronCouron Год назад +2253

    I feel like Rick has really tapped into something with these long form interviews. Where else can you hear directly from LEGENDS like Butch Vig or Billy Corgan or Sting or Maynard James Keenan or Derek Trucks and hear their stories. Rick asks the questions we would ask and has a comfortable nature that seems to bring out the best stories. I have always enjoyed the Rick Beato content, but these interviews are special. Extremely unique and fascinating content that you cannot get anywhere else. Keep it up Rick!

    • @Ericstrains
      @Ericstrains Год назад +58

      Agreed. I also love how these interviews aren't dumbed down for general audiences. It's like two musicians talking shop together…which of course it is.

    • @DesignRhythm
      @DesignRhythm Год назад +18

      He's definitely one of the very best around; never gets in the way and asks just the right amount of questions.

    • @hegemonycricket2182
      @hegemonycricket2182 Год назад +12

      Rick Rubin's podcast is pretty great too. Beato is def my favorite though.

    • @googpix540
      @googpix540 Год назад +4

      Now we need political long firm interviews.

    • @hegemonycricket2182
      @hegemonycricket2182 Год назад

      @@googpix540 There are some channels out there for that. I agree we need more of it, because you can't hide for 3 hours. Long form is very revealing, and it allows plenty of time to unpack ideas.

  • @chris.fitzgerald
    @chris.fitzgerald Год назад +280

    I love hearing Butch in interviews, this by far was one of his best sit downs, great job Rick. Butch belongs in the Rock Hall of Fame.

    • @HeavyMetalOne64
      @HeavyMetalOne64 Год назад +11

      Absolutely he does.....probably more than once....I think the argument could be made for his band to be inducted

    • @ontherunjg
      @ontherunjg 8 месяцев назад +1

      Butch is amazing and fun to listen to but Rick knows the amount of questions to ask.

  • @jessestumpf190
    @jessestumpf190 Год назад +231

    I love how Butch still talks about the Nirvana guys like they’re still kids just making good music, not as this band that’s gonna live forever. He has a real love for them

    • @phillymopwater
      @phillymopwater 7 месяцев назад +9

      they are just people. Idol worship is shallow.

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@phillymopwater
      But they'll forever have legend status now since Kurt fell into the black river like Layne.

    • @PhantomFilmAustralia
      @PhantomFilmAustralia 4 месяца назад +3

      When you've known them before they were rock gods, you know them as just Billy and Kurt. You know who they are before they became what they are.

    • @DS-nw4eq
      @DS-nw4eq Месяц назад

      Because they were just kids… and they were just people. Kurt was 24ish at the time, highly opinionated and kind of difficult. Add in drug addiction affecting his attitude and it’s a cross between producing and babysitting.

  • @cultserpent4501
    @cultserpent4501 Год назад +632

    Rick you are literally creating history with your channel. In an era where music is made into cheap fast junk food content and noone cares about the magic of it, you interview legends and create HOPE and INSPIRATION. Thank you! Dont give in to robots and the industry people!

    • @imovertheocean
      @imovertheocean Год назад +7

      so true brother

    • @valuedhumanoid6574
      @valuedhumanoid6574 Год назад +3

      Would entirely agree with you, however, I have been looking into some of these AI music creation apps and I got to tell you, it's actually pretty damn good. Now, I don't think it's at the level that we're talking here, you cannot artificially make songs like the one's from Nirvana or the Pumpkins. But we're also just scratching the surface of AI created music. In 5 years, who knows if you could tell the difference between a song made by a human, or an app.

    • @sharpvidtube
      @sharpvidtube Год назад +2

      @@valuedhumanoid6574 Musicians will use AI as part of the creative process. Can guarantee if the Beatles were starting out now, they would find a way to use it. They loved all the latest technology. Just hope Paul and Ringo don't use AI John and George now, that would sound horrible😂

    • @valuedhumanoid6574
      @valuedhumanoid6574 Год назад +1

      @@billa7606 No one has accused him of asking stupid questions. Why would you state something so obvious just out of the blue? Makes no sense.

    • @andreabruciati275
      @andreabruciati275 Год назад +1

      Amen

  • @Kris_jellybeard
    @Kris_jellybeard Год назад +353

    One of the producers that actually made a difference in music history.

    • @kristopherguilbault5428
      @kristopherguilbault5428 Год назад +4

      Hey... I'm the other one... ;)

    • @sirfizz6518
      @sirfizz6518 Год назад +11

      Honestly quite a few have done so.

    • @caprise-music6722
      @caprise-music6722 Год назад +24

      It’s a longshot, but my dream is that he interviews Steve Albini

    • @Kris_jellybeard
      @Kris_jellybeard Год назад +12

      @@caprise-music6722 Or Steve Lilywhite or Brian Eno...

    • @matthiasfeit8739
      @matthiasfeit8739 Год назад +4

      ​@@caprise-music6722 that could be interesting. Given Steve's hands off approach it could also mean that Rick and Albini would not really connect.

  • @matthewbuttner7960
    @matthewbuttner7960 Год назад +306

    Butch said, “Let’s do this again.” Um, yes please. This was so good. Thank you, Rick. No one is doing interviews like this. I don’t play an instrument, let alone record music, but I loved listening to you two talk about recording equipment and instruments. This and the Billy Corgan interview are my favorites from this channel.

    • @TheDamageinc81
      @TheDamageinc81 Год назад +4

      It's amazing what all goes on behind the scenes. Most people wouldn't have a clue about what it takes to make a recording. Of course the digital age has made things easier but the analog days of cut and splicing with tape is a whole different ball game. Personally, the analog tape production like the needle piercing the vinyl sounds more organic and that extra work seems to pay off.

    • @Pauldjreadman
      @Pauldjreadman Год назад +3

      We definitely need a “ Part 2”

    • @patrick3926
      @patrick3926 Год назад +5

      Loved every second. Butch is such a great interview, patient and loves geeking out

    • @JoeSim8s
      @JoeSim8s Год назад +4

      +1 for the "Let's do this again". Rick's interviews are unique.

    • @alexandercardoso8216
      @alexandercardoso8216 11 месяцев назад +3

      Butch Vig is pure gold

  • @inkyGhosty
    @inkyGhosty 7 месяцев назад +61

    This isn't really an interview, this is a masterclass for any aspiring young people wanting to get into the producing side of the industry and probably just as much as a goldmine for already experienced techs, engineers and producers. Incredible content.

  • @randygomez9595
    @randygomez9595 Год назад +33

    "You can't record the same guitar multiple times with the same tones."
    Man, that is some of the best recording advice for working musicians I've ever heard.

    • @PoboyMusic
      @PoboyMusic 10 месяцев назад +2

      Lots of good knowledge here for home recording guys

    • @Rand_al_Thor372
      @Rand_al_Thor372 10 месяцев назад

      Randy Rhoads would say otherwise.

    • @randygomez9595
      @randygomez9595 10 месяцев назад

      @@Rand_al_Thor372 you sure about that?

    • @Rand_al_Thor372
      @Rand_al_Thor372 10 месяцев назад

      @@randygomez9595 positive. He triple tracked all the solos: left, right and center.

    • @randygomez9595
      @randygomez9595 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@Rand_al_Thor372 well, recording the same guitar part multiple times with the same tone to make that one part sound bigger and fuller is one thing. I think what Butch Vig is referring to here is recording different guitar parts with the same tone.

  • @omartechnologies
    @omartechnologies Год назад +325

    Everyone has already said it, but I gotta double down. Rick, you are going to go down in history as one of the most important historians of rock music. These interviews are priceless. The questions you ask are so precise and beautiful and brings out so many amazing stories and detail. And of course who better than someone who understands and knows the legacy of all these brilliant instruments, tech, and musicology can be the one to make this happen.
    Thank you for being awesome and producing this amazing content.
    And Butch was fascinating to listen to.

    • @canadude6401
      @canadude6401 8 месяцев назад +1

      His interviews are really good....I especially like how he doesn't waste anytime with stupid typical drama questions. I know very little about music production, but I can really appreciate the process and it's so nice to hear all the details.

  • @VetBodGaming
    @VetBodGaming Год назад +75

    Please, please, please give us a second interview. Butch is an absolute legend and a hero to a lot of us in WI in the 90s.

  • @christophcarle
    @christophcarle Год назад +136

    I love it that Butch is always able to name song titles, lyrics and fine details like take numbers. Absolutly great guy!

    • @zinniebee
      @zinniebee Год назад +15

      That and his memory for the equipment specifics is astounding.

    • @Adefesio94
      @Adefesio94 Год назад +6

      Song recorders are nerds! they remember!

    • @bradleylovej
      @bradleylovej 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Adefesio94 I'm a nerd but I don't remember things very well, haha. Too much acid in the aughts!

  • @nomadicnotestv
    @nomadicnotestv Год назад +218

    You know the interview went well and there is such great rapport between the two when Butch says "let's do this again". Yes, please!

    • @JimRivers1179
      @JimRivers1179 Год назад +3

      There’s many Rick interviews begging that part 2

    • @davidcroft3346
      @davidcroft3346 Год назад +10

      Butch said something like "we barely scratched the surface on some of this" and I was thinking, yeah you just got started on Siamese Dream before skipping off to talk about Garbage

    • @Joesfosterdogs
      @Joesfosterdogs Год назад +2

      Gadd said the same...and rarely says that

    • @lukephillips1521
      @lukephillips1521 Год назад

      After nearly 2 hours! These producers must get used to long periods doing the same thing..😂

  • @jwhite1016aol
    @jwhite1016aol Год назад +231

    This was stellar. Butch is a national treasure.

    • @davemarriott9332
      @davemarriott9332 Год назад +13

      And the best part is his humility....He doesn't even know he's a national treasure...Well put

    • @jorgealbertovalladares578
      @jorgealbertovalladares578 Год назад +3

      @@davemarriott9332 It also didn't seem like Rick noticed Butch complementing Rick's work saying, "I am a fan..."

    • @goodpainlive1
      @goodpainlive1 Год назад

      icon

  • @digitaldosage1979
    @digitaldosage1979 8 месяцев назад +43

    I have been a formally trained sound engineer for over 22 years, and I have never gleaned so much from an interview as I have with this one. THANK YOU! Vig is my HERO!🙏

    • @kcdw0012
      @kcdw0012 4 месяца назад

      this is definitely a longshot but i am 16 and want to be a music producer or sound engineer. i can play guitar and use DAW, what steps should i start taking to become a producer (schooling, knowledge, tips, etc.)

    • @digitaldosage1979
      @digitaldosage1979 4 месяца назад

      @@kcdw0012 I went to school for sound engineering, but what you need to do more than anything is just start getting your hands dirty. Do RUclips videos, volunteer at churches to run their sound (most provide free training), if there are recording studios around you, become an intern and work for free and get really good/quality training, start recording and mixing friends for free on your DAW, but most importantly... It's about who you know. 110%! You have to get involved in the business on a personal level, even if you were the best producer in the world, nobody's going to know it if you don't have people sending clients to you. It's about making friends and building your chops at the same time. Be easy to work with and don't have an attitude, even when circumstances might dictate otherwise. When it boils down to it, people want to work with cool people.😎 Lastly, be willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done, even if you don't know how to do something, learn it while in-process, but in order to be a producer, you need to learn all aspects of recording/mixing... At least in my opinion.
      With that said, there's been a bit of a mix-up in the language that we use nowadays for "producers". Producers used to be people that could get an album put together from start to finish, and are able to provide good creative input in order to make the best recording possible, while dealing the artists on a personal level. Nowadays, the term producer has been diminished to someone that just sits around making beats and providing artists with material that they can record to. Regardless of how you're using the word, you'll need to figure out what specifically you need to learn in order to accomplish your goal. Butch vig, as seen in this interview, is a tracking and mixing engineer first.... The producer stuff came later. He earned every bit of his success.

  • @JimLovesGolf
    @JimLovesGolf 4 месяца назад +18

    One of the wonderful things about Rick as an interviewer is how he injects his knowledge of the topic in his questions to spur very interesting and expansive responses without resorting to talking about his own substantial experience in the subject.

  • @jimmienahas4156
    @jimmienahas4156 Год назад +259

    Butch is a humble dude and every year (except Covid year) comes back to Madison and does a benefit with local and international musicians for a benefit called Joey's Song. Dude gives back to the community that continues to RESPECT what this man does with music. 23:17 Miking drums. Rock on Butch Vig.

    • @seltonk5136
      @seltonk5136 Год назад +2

      Apparently the other day one of those things that you can get on the couch with your family and friends

    • @davebaka2595
      @davebaka2595 Год назад

      Interesting to think that maybe I may have passed by Butch when I was student there. I went through the humanities building just about every day. I also had a few philosophy classes there. It’s an unusual building. The top floors are suspended high above on big pillars.

    • @davebaka2595
      @davebaka2595 Год назад

      Look at the bike to get some perspective of the size

  • @sasanbehnood-hr7hx
    @sasanbehnood-hr7hx Год назад +151

    Rick - this is the most comprehensive (and personal) interview I’ve ever seen with Butch. For all of us lovers of 90s rock, we’ve pieced together little snippets of his interviews here and there, but your interview beautifully fills in the background color and detail - in a way we’ve always hoped to know and see. Masterful interview, and Butch clearly connected with you. Thank you so much for this. Waiting for part 2 someday….

  • @clinteastwood3156
    @clinteastwood3156 Год назад +329

    Huge respect for this guy, Butch created 90s rock sound with Gish and later Siamese Dream and Nevermind

    • @sirfizz6518
      @sirfizz6518 Год назад +19

      The musicians were at least as responsible for that if not moreso. What's clear is that he was the right guy to make it translate and click

    • @robphegan90
      @robphegan90 Год назад +22

      Don’t tell Billy Corgan this. 😅

    • @joelab9222
      @joelab9222 Год назад +15

      Sonic Youth - Dirty, too.

    • @TheMattmatic
      @TheMattmatic Год назад

      @@robphegan90 "You stole my guitar sound, motherfucker!" ;)

    • @OGGOAT23
      @OGGOAT23 Год назад +1

      Killdozer Laughing Hyenas

  • @robbygordon643
    @robbygordon643 Год назад +68

    I always enjoyed Inside the Actors Studio but bummed that there was never anything like it for music. Rick - you’re quickly becoming that guy. Someone who can intelligently talk to an artist about things related to the craft is rare. Glad you are doing these interviews!

    • @colinwallace5286
      @colinwallace5286 10 месяцев назад +5

      I love how the early interviews had the guests gradually getting comfortable and candid, and “engaged”, as they realized that Rick was asking great questions, not looking for the usual “gotcha” garbage. Now we see that your guests are looking forward to getting their own great interview, and it’s really entertaining and informative for all of us.

  • @edmunddonnelly3881
    @edmunddonnelly3881 Год назад +56

    Rick has, without a doubt, the most essential channel on RUclips for music fans. Such a treasure trove of interesting stuff.

  • @thecthonian4976
    @thecthonian4976 Год назад +155

    Of all the interviews this one is a fast favorite. Butch is great, and such an amicable guy. I loved how they both air drum/ guitar with the songs Rick played. What a unique opportunity to talk to one of the best producers of alternative rock ever. Rick let him talk and Butch stayed on point. Very well done Rick! Love this one!

    • @geoffmerrill164
      @geoffmerrill164 Год назад +2

      At 28:whatever, when Rick cues up I Am One, to see Butch instantaneously fall into the groove is so cool. Rick's there as well, as are I imagine thousands of us who watched this and found ourselves back at the first listening, and to some extent every listening since then. Music is magic.

  • @NBAHOTTAKEZ
    @NBAHOTTAKEZ Год назад +1259

    No way!! We gotta get Dave Grohl now

    • @blazaar3099
      @blazaar3099 Год назад +22

      YES!

    • @caprise-music6722
      @caprise-music6722 Год назад +17

      Heck yes!

    • @Masterlessmusic
      @Masterlessmusic Год назад +23

      I'm up for that. I'd imagine he'd be up for it as well given the free time.

    • @alexsmith-rs6zq
      @alexsmith-rs6zq Год назад +10

      @@Masterlessmusic well the foos are starting up again so I don’t think he’s going to be as available

    • @Masterlessmusic
      @Masterlessmusic Год назад +7

      ​@@alexsmith-rs6zq yeah true, but hopefully down the line sometime Rick can make it happen.

  • @mkhdnimg
    @mkhdnimg 2 месяца назад +5

    Jesus holy mary hell, I sat through all of that and it was amazing. Ricks interviews reveal that all of his guests and probably everyone involved in making amazing records, are just normal, humble music nerds. Like the rest of us. This was one of the most grounded conversations and I loved every minute of it. Rick's the best.

  • @FallenStarFeatures
    @FallenStarFeatures 8 месяцев назад +17

    Butch is not only a legendary producer and musician. His phenomenally detailed memory of recording and engineering tales from sessions held over two decades ago is endlessly mesmerizing. Not to mention, Rick's questions and commentary are so pertectly on point, I could listen to many more hours of just the two of them talking.

  • @milesdowsett3532
    @milesdowsett3532 Год назад +139

    The impact of Butch's influence in the whole of music in the 90s cannot be overstated.

    • @SebastianPerezG
      @SebastianPerezG Год назад +6

      More Butch and less Trap music please !!!! less Bad Bunny and all that crap for god sake ..

    • @nickkleiber8636
      @nickkleiber8636 7 месяцев назад

      Don’t discount Jack Endino tho, he had prolly a bigger influence

    • @EZLN
      @EZLN 6 месяцев назад

      @@SebastianPerezG i’m sure you’ll find it, why put down what others like?

  • @devinsinderwitcz9134
    @devinsinderwitcz9134 Год назад +92

    Butch Vig is a genuine genius! His work in Garbage is truly EPIC!

    • @TRON0314
      @TRON0314 Год назад +8

      Garbage 2.0 is a top 10 album for me.

    • @austinhunt4260
      @austinhunt4260 Год назад +3

      Garbage 1.0 is a top 10 for me. 2.0 is a top 100.

    • @codyharris1211
      @codyharris1211 Год назад +2

      I saw them on that tour and that show is one my top favorites and Garbage is my all time favorite band. A perfect example of everything working together as it should. Not a day goes by that I don’t listen to them.

    • @blakemaxfield4267
      @blakemaxfield4267 Год назад +3

      ​@@austinhunt4260 I loved that first album from Garbage. When I first heard Vow on 120 minutes I was like who the hell is this? There's nothing like hearing and discovering a new band for the first time.

  • @sub-jec-tiv
    @sub-jec-tiv Год назад +34

    These interviews are gold 🏆 Recorded at Smart a couple of times in the 80s before the big records happened, back when Tar Babies and Killdozer records were the big things on their wall. Butch and Steve Marker are beautiful dudes and it was pure love in that scruffy studio. What a joy to be there with them. Love those guyz they R total working class heroes 🙏

  • @Pigsandpies1984
    @Pigsandpies1984 Год назад +16

    I love that Butch can’t help but air drum through some of those amazing songs. What a body of work. And he remembers so many details. Amazing.

  • @TheMerlynPost
    @TheMerlynPost Год назад +317

    0:00 The first recording Butch ever did
    6:58 First years in the recording studio
    14:55 Smashing Pumpkins I
    23:05 Drum talk
    26:09 Smashing Pumpkins II
    28:19 Smashing Pumpkins - I Am One
    38:13 Smashing Pumpkins - Daydream
    41:44 Kurt Cobain bootlegs himself
    45:15 Starting on Nevermind
    50:22 Recording Nevermind
    56:50 Nirvana - Lithium
    1:00:19 Nirvana - In Bloom
    1:06:10 Kurt Cobain and The Beatles
    1:11:06 Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit I
    1:16:49 Nirvana - On A Plain
    1:20:27 Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit II
    1:24:39 Siamese Dream
    1:27:53 Smashing Pumpkins - Cherub Rock
    1:32:38 Garbage
    1:42:57 Rock will come back to the forefront

  • @bonus1638
    @bonus1638 Год назад +108

    The synchronised head bobbing of these music lovers is epic. Also, given how many times Butch has already listened to these songs during production and since then, he still air drums and air guitars along with it like a proud dad. Supreme interview Rick and Butch.

    • @orcafinn
      @orcafinn Год назад +1

      Its adorable, isn't it!

    • @capoman1
      @capoman1 Месяц назад +1

      Good point. You know Butch wore these tracks out mixing them and he still has all the love for these songs. He really appreciates the process as much as a musician playing in the song.

  • @josephwiacek8123
    @josephwiacek8123 Год назад +12

    This is like the Behind The Music to Behind the music. Mid-Forties now and these are all the bands that shaped my teenage years and experiences. Very nostalgic-Great job.

    • @capoman1
      @capoman1 Месяц назад +1

      Concur. Same age. This may be better than a Nirvana interview cause Bruce isn't internal to the songs, he's recording them for release. He really explains well all the thoughts behind the sounds and choices.

  • @loganm15
    @loganm15 Год назад +16

    Dang nothing has ever opened my eyes more to show the amount of work producers put into albums hats off to Butch for producing one of the greatest albums of all time

    • @fenrisbutcher7343
      @fenrisbutcher7343 Месяц назад +1

      if u listen to early smells like teen spirit demo u will see the real impact Butch had on whole nevermind. ppl always say how navermind changed the music history, and Butch is the unspoken hero o that story

  • @Robx-gx8zy
    @Robx-gx8zy Год назад +43

    My favorite part of this interview is leading into the chorus of “On A Plain” Butch plays the air drum fill and Rick plays air bass. Love to see two legends acting like 14 year olds!!

  • @onairsebcycling
    @onairsebcycling Год назад +81

    I was 13 when Nervermind came out. This band was my life. And in 91, you couldn't have any answers to the questions that you had. This is GOLD.

    • @Rockesb888
      @Rockesb888 Год назад +6

      I was a few years younger and I remember playing Nevermind for the first time on my cousin’s CD player and it blew my mind.

    • @sonicclang
      @sonicclang Год назад +2

      We're probably about the same age. I was also 13. Changed my life!

    • @timwatson9156
      @timwatson9156 Год назад +7

      I was 13 also. I remember walking to the tennis court for gym class listening to my yellow Walkman when I first heard Nirvana and it blew my mind.

    • @robertking2104
      @robertking2104 Год назад +2

      I was 12. I remember watching best music videos of the year marathon. Smells Like Teen Spirit was #1. I hurt my neck in celebratory head banging

    • @isatralala
      @isatralala Год назад +1

      I was 12 yrs old starting high school... Back then you could rent tape cassette at th library and I had to use mom's stereo to record my copy tape... Will always remember her expressions when the album started playing... Confusion, surprise, interrogation, amused... I loved becoming a teen in the 90's!

  • @gabedirmeyer692
    @gabedirmeyer692 Год назад +7

    Watching this interview spoke to my soul. Butch is a living legend in my opinion. All he has done, then Garbage?! I had every Garbage cassette, and wore them out. Thank you Rick for giving us the back stories that our generation of music lovers want to know about.

  • @michtarragon4665
    @michtarragon4665 Год назад +32

    I've loved everything Butch has done over the years. Gish and Siamese Dream are amazing records, as is Nevermind. I'm a huge Garbage fan as well. Thank you Butch!

    • @bradleylovej
      @bradleylovej 8 месяцев назад

      I remember playing Gran Tourismo 2 and hearing that Garbage track over and over again. I liked it, so I dug a little and was shocked that one of the band members had produced Nevermind!

  • @marceror
    @marceror Год назад +73

    Rick is officially the go to contact if an artist wants to go deep on an interview. This was a great listen, and I am absolutely amazed at Butch's near perfect memory of these sessions.

    • @Omertahun
      @Omertahun Год назад

      Honestly, the last time they did that deep dive QA was in the 70s

    • @geoffmerrill164
      @geoffmerrill164 Год назад

      Your memory reference reminds me of listening to athletes who can, years later, describe in great detail the intricacies of a play or a game. A well-tuned mind can operate way beyond our conscious appreciation of it's capabilities.

    • @popkorn256
      @popkorn256 Год назад +3

      To be fair, in the last 30 years, people have probably been asking him every day about the Nevermind recording :)

    • @marceror
      @marceror Год назад +3

      @@popkorn256 Probably true, but I don't think that explains why he seems to remember every piece of equipment he has owned or used since his very first recording session! :)

    • @robertmuckle2985
      @robertmuckle2985 Год назад +4

      @@marceror As a 67 year old recording engineer, I too remember most every piece of gear I've used on most everything! If I can make a suitable comparison...for most 'guys', consider how much you remember about each and every car you've owned, and what you did in said cars! It comes down to the LOVE you have, and hence those memories will stay with you forever!

  • @TheNadaladaDOTnet
    @TheNadaladaDOTnet Год назад +68

    Aside from the fact that Butch’s resume and contribution to music is undeniable….his energy, vibe and passion for the music he has been associated with is just so infectious. You can tell how much admiration he has for the artists.

  • @thefounding5879
    @thefounding5879 Год назад +10

    This is the juice right here!!!! These interviews open up music for me on a whole different level. I was in my early twenties when these bands rose up and in my forties I decided I wanted to learn how to play music and not just listen to it and these interviews open up an existence I never knew existed. OUTSTANDING!!!!! Rick.........another homerun buddy!!!!!

    • @ciAMkia
      @ciAMkia Год назад +1

      This JUICE, as you called it, is definitely worth the squeeze here! I love this stuff!

    • @LarsRyeJeppesen
      @LarsRyeJeppesen Год назад +1

      Ditto here

  • @thewalrus5878
    @thewalrus5878 Год назад +10

    At times I literally got goosebumps of excitement with Rick’s technical knowledge AND how sincerely interested he is in Butch’s answers. Actually, I love how in every interview Rick is intensely focused and interested in his guest’s answers and story. Great questions. You can’t find these levels of interviews with such important figures anywhere else. Excellent job, Rick. Please keep it up!

  • @hkmoving
    @hkmoving Год назад +39

    We need a show on/with Jimmy Chamberlain...just a monster of a drummer. He deserves more attention. And Rick, this is a phenomenal interview.

  • @remyboyzz399
    @remyboyzz399 Год назад +85

    This has gotta be Rick’s best interview yet! I’m a novice at production but it’s easy to tell that this interview has something to teach producers at every level.

    • @DesignRhythm
      @DesignRhythm Год назад +5

      Yep. I'm just a dumb drummer, and even I was fascinated with all the thought that goes into the type of mics, eq, etc. The story of him slicing the tape parallel to only remove half the tracks was next level insanity; I've never heard of someone doing that before.

  • @BlacksburgEV
    @BlacksburgEV 10 месяцев назад +4

    Please interview Butch again!
    I could listen to Butch for fucking days....he has the best stories and is just a regular guy. It's like listening to one of your friends talk and Rick has the same qualities. I can not get enough of these interviews.
    Butch in particular you covered so much ground with and it feels like he's going deep but then you hear him say you barely touched upon what you wanted?! My God damn, I would listen to 5 3 hour interviews with this guy.
    Please keep doing what you are doing as this is history....that deserves to be remembered.
    He is a Rockstar in his own right, ai love garbage and always have. I'm glad he got to do the otherside of the coin and I don't think a lot of other producers do. It probably explains a huge chunk of his success.

  • @ideologybot4592
    @ideologybot4592 Год назад +8

    Butch's love for Jimmy's drumming hits me in the feels. I love this, every bit of it.

  • @noelhutz
    @noelhutz Год назад +86

    This is a masterclass. Thank you Rick for your immeasurable contribution to music and its history!

  • @mayorofthenonsense
    @mayorofthenonsense Год назад +85

    One of the coolest things in this interview is where they talk about lining up the next Pumpkins record in the wake of the world changing Nevermind, and how much pressure Butch was under to deliver something equally successful. Normally, there would have been a lot of doubt about anyone being able to pull the same trick again, but in this case the result was an album that was as big, powerful, and successful as it was unique and defining in its own right. Siamese Dream might not have represented the same musical revolution that Nevermind did, but it came as close as anything ever could and was without a doubt one of the most iconic albums of the 90’s.

  • @michaelmarcuola1684
    @michaelmarcuola1684 Год назад +3

    Rick Beato's lessons videos and interviews should definitely be in the Library of Congress! 🙏💎

  • @i-am-alxdz
    @i-am-alxdz 5 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you very much for interviewing Butch Vig. This conversation was incredible 👍

  • @dynamicphotography_
    @dynamicphotography_ Год назад +108

    These interviews are not only amazing, but they must be preserved. These are going to become historical for the next generations to gain knowledge. And that is why Rick's effort must be applauded. He is literally carrying the torch. Protect Rick Beato at all costs.

    • @johnwelsh2769
      @johnwelsh2769 Год назад +3

      You know, all of these people have been interviewed before. There are countless books and magazines where these guys have talked about their profession. "Behind the Glass" is a great one. "All You need is Ears". Mix Magazine interviewed top pros for years, as did Sound on Sound and Recording magazines.

    • @scottscottsdale7868
      @scottscottsdale7868 Год назад +1

      Yes. Yea. Yes.

    • @bigred9023
      @bigred9023 Год назад +4

      But next generations wont care. Its all about MP3 files, etc... these days. No one cares about analog these days.

    • @ehenyor
      @ehenyor Год назад +1

      ​@@johnwelsh2769 how accessible are they, though? I could not find "Behind the Glass" available online.

    • @martinaddison4880
      @martinaddison4880 Год назад +2

      I have piles and boxes of those magazines, and those books. I prefer to listen to these interviews.These are INFINITELY better for me because I learn their personality, feel their passion, hear them laugh!

  • @awesomezdude12
    @awesomezdude12 Год назад +67

    Wether Rick knows it or not he has left his mark in music and on future generations with his content and this interviews. Thank you, Rick.

  • @stopbunsen
    @stopbunsen Год назад +14

    This is the stuff that we want as music fans. The behind-the-scenes stories. The equipment they use. We love the minutiae of making music and suck it up like a sponge. I often recall the most detailed stuff about my favourite records and bands, because if you love music you love music and want to learn. An interview like this might be edited by other youtube streamers but I love that the detail is left in. Thank you so much, Rick! It seems like you know what you would want in a music RUclips channel and that's what you serve us. It's just beautiful and your heart, it shows. You care. Bravo!

  • @degm88
    @degm88 Год назад +101

    I’ve been waiting for this interview for a while! Awesome to finally have Butch along.

    • @mattstopa9436
      @mattstopa9436 Год назад +8

      This is an epic interview.

    • @piteusx8440
      @piteusx8440 Год назад +4

      A music critic once called Garbage, "Shirley Manson with a bunch of plumbers." LOL. Obviously, he was making fun of their look and not their music. Butch Is a legend. He doesn't get the credit he deserves.

    • @degm88
      @degm88 Год назад +3

      @@piteusx8440 Agree, both as a musician and as a producer. Friggin’ genius.

  • @brianwood7237
    @brianwood7237 Год назад +72

    This was better than any interview I've ever heard between two producers of music can't wait for part 2 thank you Rick for all your efforts there is nobody out there like you

  • @stephengiese7549
    @stephengiese7549 4 месяца назад +2

    I love dearly to hear how he got started! Great memory and plenty of humour. Another legend who had music in his life from an early age. Thank you Rick for doing this. Keep it up😀

  • @shellacbigblack
    @shellacbigblack Год назад +8

    Goosebumps when they play each tune. Just wow. Having the man who orchestrated this stuff is way different than just hearing this stuff on your own, popping it on. So cool that he's doing this.

  • @DesiranKehendak
    @DesiranKehendak Год назад +80

    No matter how high the level of fame or the legendary status of the guests, Rick simply brings the musicians out of them and somehow the 'celebrity' side resides. I think that is the greatest achievement of this channel.

    • @leomonster1973
      @leomonster1973 Год назад +10

      Because Rick is a musician interviewing musicians for a channel watched by musicians… wonderful

    • @DesiranKehendak
      @DesiranKehendak Год назад +2

      @@leomonster1973 precisely!

    • @Tyrannosaurine
      @Tyrannosaurine Год назад +1

      Agreed. But to be fair, Butch Vig is a super down to Earth dude. If you had posted this on the Billy Corgan interview though….

    • @DesiranKehendak
      @DesiranKehendak Год назад

      @@Tyrannosaurine that is a fair observation, indeed. I guess it's been accumulated and I just found the realization here : )

    • @luvpants2012
      @luvpants2012 Год назад +3

      He sat down and said "Rick I am a big fan of your channel". How cool was that.

  • @TheSteevo123
    @TheSteevo123 Год назад +28

    It's literally no exaggeration to say that the records this man produced changed my life. Amazing interview Rick, please do a part 2 as Butch suggested!

  • @kenhauser3194
    @kenhauser3194 Год назад

    Thank you both. Loved this so very much. Can’t wait for part 2 (please)

  • @1mlb704
    @1mlb704 Год назад

    I'm so glad I finally was able to sit down and watch this entire thing. I love everything about it, definitely looking forward to part 2!!

  • @Antireality
    @Antireality Год назад +15

    Listening to Butch speak I get the feeling that being a walking encyclopedia of production knowledge accounts for about half of the success, and the fact that he comes across as someone you would be super comfortable talking to, bouncing ideas off of and working with is also a huge part of it.

  • @NDemanuele1
    @NDemanuele1 Год назад +37

    Wow, I'm glad Rick is getting the recognition he deserves with these Superstar interviews!

    • @jmazoso
      @jmazoso Год назад +2

      It’s amazing how many of these guys and gals are fans

  • @30152708
    @30152708 Год назад +5

    Seeing Butch air drum to Jimmy and Dave's iconic drum hooks is absolutely priceless.

  • @miltontorres04
    @miltontorres04 Год назад

    One of the best interviews I’ve ever seen. Love this new direction you’ve taken with interviewing legacy artists, musicians, producers and engineers!

  • @williamfischer7285
    @williamfischer7285 Год назад +36

    Every time I think Rick Beato can’t get any better, something like this comes along. Truly amazing to see these long form interviews

  • @lippi2171
    @lippi2171 Год назад +11

    Rick I mean how awesome is it that in 5 years you got to the point where Butch Vig calls himself a fan of your channel in your interview with him

  • @davewhipple
    @davewhipple Год назад

    Thank you for these amazing interviews!

  • @Avarice176
    @Avarice176 Год назад

    Legendary interview. So cool to hear a deep dive on the behind the scenes production of some iconic songs

  • @willcorg1979
    @willcorg1979 Год назад +33

    Every interview with Butch Vig is pure GOLD!

  • @horvathandrew
    @horvathandrew Год назад +23

    I have to say, watching Butch air drum to Jimmy Chamberlain, like I have a million and a half times, made my week. Great interview. Thank you, Rick and Butch!

  • @michaelluong6484
    @michaelluong6484 Год назад +11

    Personally speaking, this is the most enjoyable interview you've ever done Rick. Gish, Nevermind, and Siamese Dream are 3 of my most listened to albums ever (I'm just about 40). I've always thought Garbage is a pretty great band. To get this insider view, and to see just how deliberate and down-to-earth Butch freakin' Vig is, has me smiling from ear to ear. I was just captivated by this interview from start to finish. Thank you both.

  • @Splandrocity
    @Splandrocity Год назад

    Love this - such great storytelling and insight. More of these lengthy and engaging interviews is a great idea.

  • @michaelamappala5238
    @michaelamappala5238 Год назад +12

    I like what Butch Vig said at the end when he admitted that he was a pop geek and loved listening to the Carpenters. In my opinion, to really love music, one would have to be open to all kinds.

    • @robnation2475
      @robnation2475 Год назад

      Yeah... and Rick Beato did a Carpenters video 5 months ago that I just watched this past weekend! Then I read tonight on Wikipedia where Butch described "You Look So Fine" citing its "Carpenters doing Sonic Youth quality".

  • @markevans390
    @markevans390 Год назад +21

    Let's not wait too long to get Butch back. This was one of the best interviews I have seen in a long time, anywhere.

  • @colb999
    @colb999 Год назад

    This was awesome, I learned so much from it. Please do a Pt 2.
    I also like the long form interviews!

  • @alexanderhagstrom7791
    @alexanderhagstrom7791 Год назад +1

    This was amazing. The depth of your discussion is on a level I’ve never seen before on YT. Awesome piece.

  • @1985SteveB
    @1985SteveB Год назад +37

    What makes Rick great is that people like me, who know hardly anything about music production or engineering, can be completely engrossed in listening to the recording processes.
    Rick, you're a complete legend. These albums I've listened to thousands of times. Hearing about them being made is completely amazing.

    •  Год назад

      Wow that is a great compliment. Engineers can often get very technical and nerdy.

    • @jasonhutty
      @jasonhutty Год назад +1

      Right! Now idea what you're talking about, but it's fascinating.

  • @michellowe8627
    @michellowe8627 Год назад +7

    I was glad you guys talked about Garbage. My youngest daughter was probably in middle school and turned me on to them so that took me back. My oldest turned me on to the Pumpkins; we caught a Machina concert at George Mason in Northern Virginia. And I think I turned the kids on to Nirvana. If it had been vinyl I would have worn Nevermind smooth. Hearing Butch’s Pumpkins & Nirvana stories was AMAZING! Thank you, Mister Beato!

  • @nicknorod6607
    @nicknorod6607 Год назад +6

    Rick has consistently blown me away with his interviews and song breakdowns. As a former audio engineer and musician I eat this stuff up like Tupelo Honey. It is by far the best thing on RUclips!

  • @iriefire6609
    @iriefire6609 7 месяцев назад +2

    This was a great interview! One of my favourite so far on the show. I was low key hoping Rick would have asked Butch Vig about " the theft" of Billy Corgans guitar sound on the Nevermind record claim, from Corgan's interview. It would be interesting to hear the other side of that story.

  • @Zeta9966
    @Zeta9966 Год назад +25

    I wish we could have had more of a deep dive into Siamese Dream. I feel like that album is the pinnacle of creativity for the both of them

  • @johndrew8
    @johndrew8 Год назад +28

    Through the history of man, pre current media outlets, one of the main/most important person in the tribe was the story teller. This was how the history and sustaining of the tribes traditions survived. Rick is our guy!
    As always, JD

  • @ItAllFeelsRight
    @ItAllFeelsRight Год назад

    Another great interview. Thank you.

  • @GuitarExpress
    @GuitarExpress Год назад +7

    I enjoyed every single minute of this interview. What a gem!

  • @MKRumble91
    @MKRumble91 Год назад +27

    I loved loved loved every second of this interview. What a legend Butch is, and thank you Rick for bringing us an amazing history lesson. Being 20 in 1990 I was at the right age to appreciate the massive change this music brought about after suffering years of the Stock, Aitken and Waterman sound, and the hair bands that had become pretty stale. Butch was so pivotal to that change. To hear him tell his story is a real privilege.

  • @freez092also
    @freez092also Год назад +49

    Hands down one of the best interviews I've watched in my life.. I couldn't stop watching it.. and so many technical details combined with memories of hearing this material on the radio when it was first dominating the airwaves... what a wonderful time where artists/musicians/producers/engineers met with technology to create something so organic and genuine that we don't have in music today

    • @ciAMkia
      @ciAMkia Год назад +1

      Same with me bro. I have an intractable migraine from my time in the military. It's 0409 here and I really should try to sleep, but eff it. This is great stuff.
      Thank you Rick!!!!

  • @Mineav
    @Mineav 8 месяцев назад +1

    Absolutely fantastic and endlessly interesting. Can't wait for part two.

  • @1980alsful
    @1980alsful Год назад

    Amazing. Loved this, so good to watch

  • @valuedhumanoid6574
    @valuedhumanoid6574 Год назад +29

    There's a video out about the making of Nevermind and when Butch talked about how he recorded Something In The Way, that's when I knew he was one of the Masters. That is one of the most haunting, mellow, laidback tracks of all time. Very Pink Floyd-ish. An amazing producer.

  • @ddthor
    @ddthor Год назад +19

    I loved this. Coming from Madison, we are so proud of Butch and how he put the city on the rock n roll map. Love how he made himself into a great producer.

  • @nigelroddy9125
    @nigelroddy9125 2 месяца назад +1

    It must be so enjoyable for butch to be interviewed by someone so knowledgeable!!

  • @AdrianGarciaLic
    @AdrianGarciaLic Год назад

    Thank you 🙏 for your videos and interviews.

  • @stansbruv3169
    @stansbruv3169 Год назад +53

    I love this man’s sound. Butch Vig is a super powered producer!

  • @withnme
    @withnme Год назад +46

    This interview along with the Corgan interview is key 🔑 These are the answers to questions we’ve been wanting to know for years and so much information has been clouded in mystery or has been misinterpreted along the way. Having these videos and interviews is really a tremendous treat after so many years. Thank you so much Rick!

    • @JonathanCooperGB
      @JonathanCooperGB Год назад +3

      +the Krist interview ... and wouldn't it be amazing if Rick could get Dave Grohl along one day ...

    • @CFChristian
      @CFChristian Год назад

      You make it sound like he's discussing Akashic Records.
      He's literally just chatting with friends.

  • @bciecko1
    @bciecko1 Год назад

    Man that time flew by. Amazing interview!

  • @davelewis4215
    @davelewis4215 Год назад

    Rick I saved this video for yesterday and loved every minute of it and really hope you both do a part two 🤞🙏

  • @ponzo1967
    @ponzo1967 Год назад +20

    I remember hearing cherub rock for the first time driving in my car and couldn't believe the sonic quality of it. I love Garbage and of course the first time hearing Teen Spirit in my brother's car is something I'll never forget. Butch is a true talent.

  • @WoMenFromEast12
    @WoMenFromEast12 Год назад +65

    Man, thats crazy Rick, I was thinking I would like to know about how he got the sounds with the Pumpkins and Nirvana and boom. These interviews are great, really informative and inspiring. I'd be great if you could do one with Richie Kotzen.

  • @atombomburmom7491
    @atombomburmom7491 Год назад +1

    What an awesome interview, its so refreshing when you get someone who knows what they’re talking about asking good questions. This felt more like two old buddies geeking out over old demos than an interview.

  • @oxrjbizzle1984y
    @oxrjbizzle1984y Год назад +8

    thank you so much for these interviews Rick, it means so much to us. you can see why bands love Butch, he's so intelligent, so articulate, so sharp, so laid back.....must be the perfect producer!