HELLBOY II: THE GOLDEN ARMY (2008) Movie Reaction! | First Time Watch! | Review & Discussion
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- Опубликовано: 15 дек 2023
- For the first time, Jaby & Steph watch Hellboy 2, a film based on a Dark Horse Comic character about a demon who is our superhero protagonist.
This film is directed by Guillermo del Toro (Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio, Mimic, Crimson Peak, & Blade II) & it stars: Ron Perlman (Sons of Anarchy & Drive), Selma Blair (Legally Blonde & The Fog), Doug Jones (The Shape of Water, Hocus Pocus, & Pan's Labyrinth), Luke Goss (Blade II) and Anna Walton (Mutant Chronicles).
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Prince Nuada is such a great character. You can definitely emphasize with him watching his people fading away and no one doing a damn thing about it.
Easily my favorite kind of "villian".
He used to magical being like what Magneto is to mutants in the X-Men comics, movies and shows
@JERIAHOFJUDAH you're a crazy person.
*empathize.?
@@Abhayabhayam I'm already afraid to ask a child, what do you want to be when you grow up? and he answers me: John Wick.
It's a shame we never got Guillermo's 3rd Hellboy but he wasn't going to do it without a massive budget the studio wouldn't approve. Such a creative visual director.
Man, I wish Guillermo Del Toro and Ron Perlman would make more Hellboy movies. I miss their dynamic!
I want Raimi to make one.
honestly I'd take a Hellboy animated series like the two films with Ron pearlman voicing.
@@salmankhan2739honestly they already did a couple to promote the live action movies and it worked very well, it can definitely work if done more
I really want them to complete the trilogy, even if the last installment is animated ,I will accept it, u just wanna know what were the gonna do in the third movie.
The actor who plays Nuada also plays Nomak in blade 2. I love this role.
Yeah he was so good as the bad guy in both of those roles. I'm surprised we didn't get more of him in these big movies. Lots of charisma on screen.
Former boy band singer in the UK band 'Bros' with his twin brother Matt too.
@@peteturner3928 yeah Luke and Matt
Luke Goss is awesome, played 2 of Del Torro's best villains
The Prince is a real martial guy that did a lot of the fight. He also played in Blade II as the vampire hybrid
I wish we got a sequel to this one.
They always make remakes and ruin things
exactly@@UCHIHAMADARA-hx7eq
R.I.P to Brad Allan from JC Stunt Team. He also choreographed the fights in this movie as well as Kingsman franchise, Shang Chi and many other films.
A true artist.
The Angel of Death scene is and always will be one of the greatest creature and set designs in cinema.
I’d point out all the reasons that you are wrong in a long bullet list…if I could find or think of any reasons why you are wrong.
I jsut love how Ron Pearlman says damn 😂it’s jsut the perfect tone of tired, not caring & surprise
This came out during a craze of making everything into trilogies, so this movie not ending on a cliffhanger was so refreshing when I saw it.
It wasn't a cliffhanger persay, but the angel of death definitely set up the final movie with his speech to Liz, and they totally were setting up for little hellboy fire babies at the end there. I would've loved a movie where they've left the BPRD behind and are fighting monsters on their own
This was supposed to be a trilogy... they just couldn't do it because Del Toro needed a bigger budget
I think Abraham giving the last piece of the crown to Prince Nuada to save the princess mirrors Liz's decision to save Hellboy over saving the World ("So child, make the choice. The world or him.") Also, as Abe says "You would do the exact same for Liz." Seems to be a theme.
I'd say Guillermo del Toro is very much aware of the traditions of mythology and fairy tales and there's a long, long tradition of the "love at first sight" trope from stories in The Bible, to ancient Greek, Medieval and Renaissance literature, from Romeo and Juliet to Sense and Sensibility, from Elf to Scott Pilgrim vs. the World.
A lot of people see the choice as "incomprehensible", but I consider it's more executed in a sloppy way: it lacks any real reason why the choice is made (except for the reason The Golden Army needs to be activated... just that).
Five more minutes would have been enough to introduce the stakes needed to give more meaning to his choice: some ruse that really puts in danger Nuala (sparing his brother); a ruse that makes Abe think Nuala really is in mortal danger, only to be shown he was deceived (for this, they would have need to save for later the revelation whatever harms her, harms him) or even make Abe act on his own and split the team before they are introduced to the Angel of Death (adding the friendly love for Hellboy to the mix, along the romantic love in the attempt to save Nuala).
But no: the heroes undo all the conflict and Abe has knowledge that Nuada can't really harm Nuala if he wishes to live so, when they meet it feels like: "We have saved Hellboy; you have no leverage over us! Here, have the last piece of the crown, anyway" XD.
I wonder if this happened due to creative differences that couldn't be solved in time or they really just couldn't think of better stakes there... but yeah, a little piece got missing there (and it's not the only moment in the film some things happen "just because").
@@DocuzanQuitomossaid a whole lot of nothing 😂
@@DocuzanQuitomos that wouldn’t really make sense abe splitting off from the team
@@3lankfac32 It makes sense he would go on his own because, in the comics of the time, Mike Mignola had used that device in some stories already (Abe, splitting from the team to do things his way). Now, Abe getting separated from the group doesn't have to happen for his own will: once in the underground, an ambush could separate him from the group.
There were options, and they were not beyond reason; but, again, the film fell partially into a trap for keeping all of them togheter all the time.
Luke Goss (Prince Nuada) has always been my fancast for Lex Luthor. I genuinely believe he’s the most perfect actor alive for the role. Bummer we’ll never see it, but he’s sooo good as an intelligent villain. My only other pick would be Max Martini.
I genuine believe that the Troll Market is exactly what it looks like inside of Guillermo Del Toro’s mind looks like.😊
We as a society have failed, for not making Del Toro's Hellboy 3 a reality.
"You're in love, have a beer. Say, what are you listening too? I, can't.. smile.. without you... Yep. I'm gonna need a beer too" 😂 one of the best movie lines ever
Doug Jones is the GOAT for playing three characters in full prosthesis in this movie.
I liked the actor who played Nuada, he was in Blade 2 & some of the Death Race movies
I love the original Hellboy comics written and drawn by Mike Mignola! Mignola co-wrote the "Hellboy 2" story with Guillermo del Toro, too.
The problem with keeping the crown is, who's trustworthy enough to keep that power? They made the right choice in destroying it.
I'm still holding onto hope that Guillermo Del Toro will be able to finish his Hellboy trilogy one day. It'll never happen... I know that. But I can hope.
I am not a baby...i'm a Tumor...had me dying....🤣
Seth Macfarlane did pretty good as Johann. And him being fluent in German was a huge factor
There are 2 animated Hellboy films in which the same cast of the originals returned to do the voices. You guys should also check those out.
Luke Goss has such an amazing voice, his diction and intonation is crystal clear. He also played the villain in Blade II.
Luke’s voice is my absolute favorite in the entire world, along with Sam Reid as Lestat from the Interview With The Vampire AMC show, and Tom Sturridge as Dream from Netflix’s The Sandman! All these men have deep but velvety voices that are so unique, soothing and elegant ❤️🙌
Seth McFarlane voices Johann Kraus. Hilarious 😅
I love these Hellboy movies from Guillermo del Toro. I always wanted him to do another one with Ron Perlman.
There are two great animated Hellboy movies featuring this cast! Definitely worth checking out.
Such an iconic movie for me not to many reactions for this unfortunately
I love the princesses clap back at her bro, when he's like who are you to challenge me, talking to Hellboy. And she names off Hellboys qualifications and titles.
OMG HI JABY AND STEPN I’m a huge fan by the way I love your movie reactions so much I haven’t seen this movie before , it’s very new to me, the actors did a great job and even the animations, we really appreciate it a lot, keep up the good work, we love you guys 💜🩷, I can’t wait to see your videos soon.
Such a great movie and ramps it up in this movie. The practical effects are still amazing
You know for a fact that the angel bringing back hellboy would be important for a future instalment
The sets, world building, makeup, prosthetics, and costumes alone put so many other fantasy and comic book movies to shame. The Troll Market scene alone absolutely the best looking scene in the movie, I could stay their all day and never once not be amazed by all the sights and sounds.
I love, love, LOVE this film even now. The elf twins are probably the most complicated characters to date in the franchise. Also, I now associate Barry Manilow with Hellboy because of this film.
Between Nuada here and Novak in Blade 2, Luke Goss should have absolutely *exploded*. Played two of the very best villains of the entire 2000s.
keep fighting Salma Blair multiple sclerosis is a beeeeaaaach
Yeah, Steph, there *is* some Lannister stuff in here!!! LOL!!!!! Man, these watchalongs remind me how much "Hellboy" was my joint back in the day! My oldest nephew pushed me to watch the first one, and I'm so glad I did! I was first in line for this film and I subsequently bought and loved the two animated films! So THANKS for this, Cinepals!!! Believe it or not, once every six months for at least the last decade I get angry for five minutes that there is no "Hellboy 3."
I hadn't remembered the first time I saw this, but the martial arts scenes here, anything with Prince Nuada, really *were* impressively great. And I say that as a Chinese-American who grew up watching martial arts, from HK action movies as a kid, from movies in the '70s and '80s, Bruce Lee, Gordon Liu, Shaw Brothers films, Jackie Chan, Jet Li, through the different ages. I think I preferred these to Hero and Crouching Tiger, because I'm not as big a fan of the more 'floaty' wirework from those or even in Shang-Chi vs. the choreography here, where you really feel like the fight movements carry real mass and momentum behind them. Wikipedia says the guy who played Prince Nuada, Luke Goss, spent 6-7 months doing sword and spear training with a Jackie Chan stunt team guy. I think that and the choreography really paid off.
Damnnn.. I was watching your reaction on part 1 of Hellboy when you uploaded this 🙌
There are two animated films where some of the actors like Ron Perlman, Selma Blair and Doug Jones from the movies do their voices for them.
What up, Braw~ And that Jaby guy isn’t bad either. 😂
Even when i'm half asleep or even sick i will still recognize which Hellboy i was watching because i grew up with it
The Prince character also played Nomak in Blade 2 (also directed by Guillermo del Toro). The man's name is Luke Goss. Before his acting career he was in a UK band with his twin brother by the name of Bros. They did 3 albums between 88 and 91 (all top 20 in the UK), got 11 UK hit singles, 8 top ten, 5 top five, 1 number one.
Check out 'Bros- When will I be famous?' for musical joy.
29:48 - The stunt/tumbling double for Prince Nauda was Damien Walters. The late, great Bradley Allen was the stunt co-ordinator.
I actually saw this one in theaters as a kid I enjoyed the hell out of it and also can't smile without you is actually one of my favorite songs cuz of this movie I hope you guys watched the animated movies they have the same you know voice cast even John hurt before he passed
This is one of my top 5 favorite movie sequels. The effects are detailed, the action sequences aren’t too slow or fast paced, and they gave more development for Abe’s character.
Even though Abraham is smart, I believe that when a person falls in love, you become dumb as hell…. That’s why they always have that same goes love is blind.
Love makes you do dumb shit. Its true
Dude, I love Back to the Future Part III. That trilogy is untouchable.
The reason this film felt open ended was because most of the plot lines were planned to be resolved in Hellboy 3; like Hellboy, Liz and Abe going off on their own, the twin babies, Hellboy enacting his destiny to bring about the apocalypse etc. However Hellboy 3 kept getting delayed. This was due to a variety of reasons; Hellboy 2 underperformed at the box office which lost studio interest, Del Toro had other projects that also never came to fruition and most of all: Funding. Del Toro said that if he were to make Hellboy 3, and most importantly do it right, he'd need a budget of at least 120 million. But no studio wanted to give him the money. Sad thing is Hellboy 3 will never happen now. Ron Perlman isn't getting any younger, and sadly Selma Blair was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis.
In a perfect world, Hellboy 3 would've been made. And, going by everything we've seen in Hellboy 1&2 as well has the few hints del Toro has given on the plot, it would've been nothing short of spectacular.
“My body is a temple.”
“Nah it’s an amusement park.”
“No the glandular…”
“Shut up and drink it will you…”
(Sigh)
Queue Barry Manalow
Luke Goss (Nuada) is such an underrated actor, man.
Hey guys, glad u liked the film..it was a pity we had no third movie, apparently the first did pretty well but this movie was a box office almost flop and he wanted a bigger budget for the third film and studio wouldnt agree to it and that was it...I loved both film but prefer the first...I think Matt Goss i think his name is, is a great villian like he was in Blade 2.
Luke Goss. Matt is his twin brother, who is a singer in Vegas.
The next reboot is called "Hellboy: The Crooked Man"
It has Brian Taylor (from CRANK) as the director
Plus, it has Mike Mignola himself as one of the writers
Awesome reaction of my favorite Hellboy movie!!!!😊😊😊😊
Prince Nuada is played by actor Luke Goss. He also played the main villain Nomac in DelToro's Blade 2
This was such a cool movie. The practical effects were crazy.
There is a 2-hour documentary for the making of this film. It's a fantastic watch. The attention to detail is crazy!
I love this movie because of its imagination, visuals and because it depicts Irish mythology in a really interesting way. They even have Nuada and Nuala speaking Old Irish (even though their pronunciation is horrid).
Yeah. Still wish they had finished with H3--Angel of death one of the best Death effect in movies imo.
the only thing i hate about this movie is that Lizz's fire is not blue anymore like the in the first one....
Whenever it comes to a character making a decision I don't understand; I always think about the situation. I'm the viewer watching from the outside in. I'm calm and collected, but if I were in that situation? I'd be stressed and panicking and trying to make a rational decision in such a short period of time. We would all make dumb mistakes in a high tension moment that someone that's just watching us would say... "Why would you do that!?"
@@Kaspar.C0LD Abraham wasn't trained for feelings and emotion. Feelings he probably never thought he'd experience. The movie shows he probably wasn't even trained for combat. He was mostly USED for analysis.
The father theme...I think it was significant that when Hellboy found out he was going to have a child he didn't say "I'm going to be a father?" he said "I become father?" as in he grows to become the father that he lost and the father-son cycle repeats.
Nuada actor was one of the members of the 80s band 'Bros'.
Better than the first one of the most underrated comic book movies ever
This movie made me terrified of the tooth fairy as a kid😂😂
I recall growing up I slept with a sword my dad gave me. Everyone has different things to make them feel safe as a kid in the dark I guess.
This movie exudes style. A visual treat.
Such a shame that Luke Goss hasn’t done much since this movie. He really is underrated
Damien Walter did all the stunts legit, one of the best ever.
Yeah, the studio wouldn't let them make part 3, but Guillermo did have a vision for the third film. Still does...The Hellboy remake was a garbage, as a fan of the comics, yeah things show up from the comics, but so what, none of it matters because it's such a nothing story with cursing for no reason, and OVER-violence. Much like Invincible, there's a lot of emphasis on how violent the book is, but then they miss EVERYTHING else about what ACTUALLY makes the book good. I'm a HUGE Hellboy fan (haven't read BPRD yet, but I have the Plague of Frogs books, just haven't gotten around to reading 'em) and the swearing? That's not in the book...I don't know why that was added, and the 'violence' isn't actually VIOLENT, there's a lot of ACTION, and sure, parts are cut off, but Mignola's style makes it all...not serious. The STAKES are what make it all feel serious. It's yet again people misunderstanding the source material and so delivering a subpar product. Guillermo understands the assignment EVERY time he sits in the chair, he understands what makes people drawn to unrealistic characters in fantastic settings and can therefore elicit genuine emotion. Maybe at some point someone will get part 3 made but probably, sadly not.
Hi Jaby & Steph!😊 Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the reboot. If you take Guillermo del Toro and Ron Perlman out of the equation you lost me. I recognized Roy Dotrice as the King. He was in the 80s TV series "Beauty and the Beast" with Ron Perlman.😉 Abe definitely made several bad decisions in this film. I am still a fan of the origin story of Hellboy from the first film. Great reactions to the second Hellboy film, Kids!!!🎬👏👏👏👏
Omg just watch and enjoy the movie for what it is for the time it was made
Luke Goss who plays the prince is also the same who plays the main bad guy in Blade 2.
Dude is an underrated action actor
Prince Nuada is played by a former English pop singer from the 80s
Johann: You will learn to obey me, follow protocol and stay fockused at all times.
Hellboy: Oh, that word? Fockused? Yeah....with your accent, I wouldn't use it that much.
Very much would be like the scene in the first Rush Hour movie when Lee says the "N" word.
Young Hellboy was played by Spanish make-up artist and actress Montse Ribé.
Prince Nuada! One of my favorite villains! I love these 2 Hellboy movies. I haven't seen the new one and don't plan to simply because these will always be superior to me. Not getting a third one is still a letdown😢
Prince Nuada was played by Luke Goss.
Luke goss, Prince nuada was also Jared nomak in blade 2
I agree. i like this fight scene more than Shang Chi
"The decision making"
I love the film,but a couple of things have to be in mind to get why some choices are so slopy. Yes, the most obvious one is that those moments were "cheap" when they wanted to forward the story and didn't spend much time making it right (like the bean... he could have tossed it right into a water source; we just see it jumping for drama sake, and our heroes don't do anything because the monster needs to appear).
But the most important reason is that by the time this film was produced, the comics and the storyline they wanted for the films had followed completely separate ways (in the comic, Liz Sherman is not Hellboy's love interest, we know Abe's whole back story, and the world keeps getting weirder by the day).
This led eventually to the outcome you partially have experienced: that there is a third Hellboy film that tries to get back to the comic storyline, rebooting the two previous films. This break up was not easy: Guillermo del Toro has stated he was very saddened he couldn't complete this trilogy and Jeffrey Tambor criticized harshly Mike Mignola (the creator of the comic) for going through with a reboot in a move he qualified as a disrespect to all the original crew involved in the first films.
Perhaps the closest you may be to experiencing what the comics are really like, is with two animated examples. In 2006 there were attemtps to make an animated series that wasn't really picked up; but two films were completed as pilots: "Hellboy: Blood and Iron" and "Hellboy: Sword of Storms". Unwillingly, they could be considered prequels/sequels/sort of paralel films to these two films because Hellboy, Liz Sherman and Abe Sapien are voiced by Ron Perlman, Selma Blair and Doug Jones.
And if you (for reaction or spare time) want to experience a Mignola story with the art of Mike Mignola... you can always try The Amazing Screw-On Head XD: ruclips.net/video/XbsDvGtTRWU/видео.html
Nice reaction, see you in the next one.
lol just go with it man.... Loved this film...
I love Hellboy 2 better than the original. Fantastic makeup and practical effects!!!
the idea that ny wouldn't freak out is really weird
Cool u brought up Jet Li in 'Hero' one of my all time favourite films...
I love the Hellboy movies
i also keep agreeing with Jaby with the stupid things they were doing, like not just destroying the piece when they had it. She melted the crown at the end, she could have just melted the piece before hand and never have to worry about the Golden army ever again. But there were a couple times he was going "why are they doing this" and i was going "yep, why are they doing that." Plot armor i guess. If they did stuff smartly the movie would have been over much sooner.
Good reaction. This was the only live action Hellboy movie that I actually enjoyed.
I have a hard time believing this guy, who loves comic books and comic book movies, has never seen the Hellboy films.
Have great respect and admiration for the Prince Nuada 👑❤️🔥 Great Character Great Prince Great Warrior loved the Character he has such Personality and Originality. And in so may ways he’s Right about Humans.
The actor for Prince Nuada would be amazing as Drizzt Do'Urdan
The reason the new handler from Hellboy 1 wasn't in this movie was because he was working on a project at the time so couldn't come back in time to make this movie. So they had to write him out as being sent away because he annoyed hellboy.
The pacing was fine with me
I like the first Hellboy, but I consider it a bit of a narrative mess. It goes from here to there, people do things, but none of it really seems cohesive.
I love this movie, though. They tightened up everything. The script makes more sense, the action is amped up, and the humor is funnier. I love when Abe and Hellboy are drunk singing together. I love the fights in the library and against the golden army. I love watching the monster with the metal hand subject himself to his own demise.
This is a great movie from beginning to end.
I find I don't like half measures when it comes to fantasy worlds. So in this movie I felt the creatures and their world were fake in a way, not truly present. Because their existence was hidden, and suddenly they themselves had faded away, it was like they were never there at all.
31:50 I mean this seems more like a last resort rather than the opening move but to each their own
Love the reaction guys. Hellboy 2 was okay. It wasn't great, but it wasn't that bad. I enjoyed the fighting scene at the end. That was cool. Love you guys. Love the channel. PS: Steph's outfit (Looney Tunes shirt) 10/10. Love it. I want it.
Absolutely unforgivable to cut out the "fock yoused" locker scene in the RUclips edit 🤣🤣🤣
about her destroying the crown. I don't think it's a choice based entirely on morality. here's the thing. it and the Golden Army were designed for war and possessing a seemingly invincible army of war machines can tempt people hard, which you could quickly see with Hellboy when he immediately began thinking about using the army soon after getting his hands on the crown. there's that and while the army could've been used for a lot of things other than killing - do you really think the world would just ignore a non-human running an army of self-repairing robots and not try to take it from him, thus waging war anyways?
Thanks for reaction
This was a great set of movies (Hellboy 1 & 2), and while I don't hate the new one that came out (I do like that one too and would like a sequel to that as well), I would love a sequel to this movie. Also, it would have been helpful to have this army around, just in case (like if Hellboy did bring about the end of the world, like they have been saying, that might have been a great time to have an indestructible army), but I also see the downside as well (like if the army falls in the wrong hands). Overall, I would like more of this franchise and explore the lore of Hellboy more. When the new one came out, I learned for the first time, that on Hellboy's mother's side, he is a direct descendent of king Arthur (I think that is very interesting). And did anyone notice that the creature that saved Hellboy's life in this movie looks a lot like one of the giant creatures that appears and goes around killing people when Hellboy gets Kind Arthur's Sword and almost end's the world. I don't know if they are supposed to be the same character, or if it's just a homage to the previous Hellboy movies, or if this character is from the comments (if they are the same character), but that couldn't be unintentional. Overall, this character and the movies made about him are great and I want more.