How I Trick People [Commentary]
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2014
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I wanted to focus less on entertainment this time and focus on teaching spy concepts I feel are very important. I have been focusing a lot on streaming the last few months which is why most of these clips are from the stream!
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Spy class is so fun! You can go invisible! Fake your deaths 4 ever! Get banned for stairstabbing a raging pyro admin! (wait wat)
fun
is that the swipez O_O
@@ShadaTF2 yep, i think so
4th reply be like
omg mrswipez
7:16 That medic is having a party in his mind.
+SuperMarioJnB lol i laughed
+Dustin Fandy lol
Kito Agano pilih satu aja namanya
Lmao xX
LOL
This video got me into TF2 all those years ago
Usually don't find the need to trickstab, but if i need too, i can and will.
Degroot keep is probably one of the best maps to practise movementes on, once you've mastered it, it'll be easier to pull of those matadores/starfe 'n' snaps.
not always, people with eyelanders can be very frustrating, along with bad hitreg and pings, and even random crits
Tf Shtaint huntsman...
dude when i was a newer spy, and i was trying to practice there i couldnt even get out of the gate, 8 snipers with huntsman, not even the old DR saved me from that.
huntsman is annoying when you get better at spy.(in degroot)
@@NAhreniir To be honest, the eyelanders do make it hard with their reach but that is good for practise.
I don't play spy anymore, as I don't really enjoy it, but the trick you mentioned of making yourself seem "blind" as to the enemy's whereabouts is something huge that I somewhat developed for my own playstyle back then. It completely disarms them in that most players automatically default to their most predictable mindset, that of a new player playing pyro; gotta get the kills, they don't see me - I'll run in a straight line to catch up to them. This sort of *spychological (hue) disarming is absolutely awesome, and unlike most things that spy mains love to boast about - overhead stabs, hakuna matatador stabs (hue) - I still definitely respect this level of game sense and control.
Before, "OH LOOK, I'LL STAB AND IT'LL KILL HIM!!" *gets kill*
Now, "Oh, this guy seemed to know these trickstabs, but he's sure loves to walk in straight lines, oh, I know! I'll bait him into here and bla bla bla and..." *gets kill*
See how this game evolved. From mindlessly getting kills to somewhat brainstormed knowledge just to take out someone.
JoNarD LoLz just because everyone use dead ringer ,it's a 1 button "haha you cant kill me "watch,people spycheck everything,burning everywhere to try to avoid getting killed,making disgist useless and make IW,CnD spies cannot survive,if you have a DR spy teammate,dont play spy.
Though, I still wanna know what kind of "spychological" (hue) playstyle is this?
I wanna learn, teach me master.
Jonard Lolz I can teach you
Amazing video, this is just what I've been trying to tell people countless times ask me stuff like this. Spies these days see tricks and try to perfect them before learning the basic ideas of spying. If you are new to the class and want to be "as good as" (since everyone has their strengths) Slurgi, stabby, et cetera, you need to take it one step at a time. Slurgi and stabby both started out with absolutely no "trickstabs." They learned the general idea of spying before moving on to try advanced tactics. This is also the reason why "trickstabs" and spying in general have so much hate from other players; all they see are wannabes who skip ahead in the first step of learning to spy.
Best spy tutorial video 2014
can anybody tell me what was the medic doing at 7:09 ???
His best
great video. Way too many spies start learning the so called "advanced part" of spying by learning the certain trick stabs by muscle memory and so become extremely predictable. More people need to understand that trick stabbing is about understanding the mechanics and more importantly how others think, fully and then adapting to different situations. Anyways, great video.
This is gold. This is absolutely insane, how HELPFUL this video is. Hats off, Slurgi, this is probably the one of the best videos of psychological mind thinking of spyety. Really well done.
I've been waiting for a video of yours for a while- they are so good, and this was no let down, thnx so much slurgi!
When I saw your stream about movement I immediately went to try it out and by god it helped so much. I got all kinds of trickstabs more reliably and was able to juke out my own teammates in degrootkeep with the half-zatoichi.
These kinds of videos and commentaries are why you're my favorite spy out of all. You go beyond the trickstabs and explain way more than that. And it really helps. I've looked at Stabby again afterwards and while he does have the good movement, he doesn't touch upon it once. As if he's not even conscious about it.
Thank you so much for this video man, I felt like this was the first real in depth trick stab overview that didn't get me lost
Thanks a lot m8
This is... enlightning . I totally have have to say you exposed a few concepts that changed my perspective on what spy can achieve . Really an excelent work !
I am not going to lie, you are one of the best spies I've seen, and this is one of the best tutorials I've ever seen, you put things in a complex way, where it's still 'meaningful'
The music and the feeling of the video go together perfectly!
It feels like I'm watching a csi video
The fact that you can deconstruct your movement and verbalize on your thought process behind every move is very impressive, Slurgi.
I would like more videos like this. I'm not a fan of the glorification of trickstabs but I can appreciate the effort that goes into them at this level. Cheers.
Thank you very much slurgi for the video and can't wait for more
One of the most informative spy videos I have ever seen.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks for this video, I was already aware of most of these things but you helped me understand them better and feel more comfortable with the concepts, so thank you! Keep up the great work!
This is awesome! Thank you. Especially for the depth of content
Really awesome video, a lot of new stuff and insight, not just a trickstab streak. Great job!
Dude, how did i miss this for all these years!
"I will probably make another video on movement" sure...
he did lol
Thank you slurgi for this kind of videos,because of you im a better spy now.
And this is why I play solly.
Best spy tutorial video I've seen. Please make more
something that I do when performing blind stabs such as corner stabs in which you and your opponent lose sight of each other, or blind stair stabs. Is something that I feel helps me out a lot, which is to visualize where the player is based on how fast they are moving after the last time I saw them. luckily for me, even though I am not even remotely good at trickstabs, getting the timing down right for blind stabs is something that seems to have come naturally to me, which i'm thankful for.
I can't mention how much this video helped me improve a bit of my movement and work on my "feel" for my trickstabs. Backpedaling has saved my ass several times. Just today even, I got a stab on a Fish Scout who was being a nuisance to our team by meleeing them with hit and runs. He traveled in the area between 2nd and Mid on Granary on our side. I figured he'd make a circle in an attempt to escape by going towards our drop-down chute.
He rounded the corner sharply, and I was ready with a corner-stab without seeing him for close to 10 seconds.
slurgi,stabby, and zeigon are my heroes
^
No love for Acooma? :c
None of them are that good in competitive except maybe stabby. But all of them are good trickstabbers I'll admit that.
Russell Leck Hei and acooma are plat spies just like stabby, And they are fucking better than him you should check them out.Stabby Stabby is so overrated ugh!
I play eu plat as spy. I know about hei and acooma and a lot of players don't rank stabby that high who actually play competitive.
Literally the most helpful spy vids out there. Subs and liked
You know this is why when I go against a good Spy (or any good player) as any other class I always do the worse possible thing at that moment, because who would expect me to that? (Yeah, I have a problem with being overly paranoid in TF2 when it comes to situations or assuming enemy skill levels, but if I always assume the worse then I'm right or I get a pleasant surprise when it isn't so bad.)
I liked this video as you slowed it down and went over the same stabs a few times, explaining how and why you did it (Yes, I just stated the obvious.) A simple thing, but all those frag like videos make it hard to focus when I have to replay the same 4 seconds again and again.
Thx a lot slurgi, keep on streaming. You haven't been on in forever
Wow you're such an idealist person. And thanks for your point of view and concepts of playing the spy, it helps us alot!
Bravo! Nice explications and demonstration examples. Keep doing those kinds of vids. They help alot!
Thank you for your time and efforts
Nice vid! You know, you are one of my favorite spies when it comes down to really weird trickstabbery, if not the best. You may not be competitive, which I really only like to watch spy gameplay from (excluding a few really good pub spies),
but seeing those ridiculous stabs I've never thought of (Jumping to a sentry and using it to improv stab someone who's running DOWN stairs) just makes me laugh.
After that I go on a pub and try something ridiculous too, and whaddya know, it works out.
I had been letting out that "risk-taker" attitude of me (my comp-carefullness transferred over to pubs a bit :s), thanks for bringing it back c;
Always looking forward to your videos
Hi Slurgi! :D It's me Sour, the person who gave you the free Strange Silver Botkiller knife :D!
I personally loved this video, you sir, earned a sub
I think the main reason I’ve always loved watching Slurgi is this right here. In a game full of psychological warfare pertaining rage and ignorance, Slurgi relaxes and doesn’t argue back, knowing he’ll just casually trick them to death later.
Your Videos help me so much. I thought that you go but you are still here. You and Zeigon are the reasons that the most of my stabs work! Thank you Slurgi. :D
Wow this is amazing i did all of this just by becoming familiar with with other player's movements especially the juking part.
This was my favorite video you made yet I got my first logical stab after I watched this video keep up the good work! :D
Love you slurgi finally a new video
Maybe i'm wierd, but am i the only one that thinks that all this psychological stuff is kinda fun?
After watching slurgi, mr paladin, and shabby for so long and at the same time practicing u start dominating in pubs
Slurgi's thought processes are insanely brilliant. This video impresses me every time man
Great video man this really helped me a lot.
I love how professional spy players are, they take spy to the next level, and another after that. It's crazy how their mind works. Heh, I'm just mindlessly M1ing and M2ing all my other classes, and for spy, i never really try anything other than the basics. Faking the players out and jump stabbing, too much work for me xD
When you get a trickstab it's just really rewarding as he said and its a ton of fun, and theres nothing wrong with being known as an awesome spy for your trickstabs :P
You're awesome, your stabs are awesome, and your channel is awesome. Subbed.
Thank you slurgi, you have helped me become a much better spy. :)
Wow, glad I discovered your stuff.
I love facing people like this. Their overconfidence can really expose them in the most simple situations cx
Slurgi spy teacha of the year
OG fan here, this has to be one of the best and deepest explanations in what a Spy can do.
*Psychology* is something really interesting when it comes to trickstabbing, if you're able to master spying in psychology, you're the master puppeteer, you control your opponent's movement with your movement and idea.
I stopped playing tf2 since it kinda got fucked lately over the years, but i've had really good experiences and found many things that really do work as to what Slurgi says. You gotta be flexible with new ideas ON THE SPOT, you must improvise, improvise improvise improvise, that is such an important thing you must master (with game experience) in order to achieve survivability and problem solving at any given situation, because every given situation is different.
*Blind metador*, this is something i've created, and i'm glad slurgi didn't know of this so it's nice that I made something that could fit spy trickstabs, making this my trump card and also making it work 100% of the time regardless if you're against a spy main. The blind metador works like this: enemy ahead, turn your back on them, already they have an implication that they can get a hit on you straight on without anything to worry that you might trickstab them, at that moment, they've been trickstabbed, why? Because they're in a realisation that you can't see them, you make them BELIEVE SOMETHING THAT ISN'T REAL, which is something Slurgi says I think. Anyway, you turn your back, and just do a metador strafe as your back is turned to the enemy, now ofcourse you're gonna need gut feelings as to where exactly and speed the enemy is approaching you from behind but this trick is really for much more experienced players. So, with the back turned, you move right (D) then move left (A) while already moving left, the enemy is turned to you when you turned right, when you move left, you quickly turn your mouse towards the enemy and stab, and bam, a blind metador, I've done these alot and they worked amazingly.
Slurgi is #1 spy in tf2, he's a trickstabbing legend, really sad he barely uploads because of real life issues, I have seen him uploading on like a weird site, but why there and not here right?
Lastly, my tips are going to 100% come from Slurgi because, well... he's my master like for any of us, movement, psychology... everything works, spy is just an amazing role with so much potential then we didn't see.
I think my only tip that comes from me is... Be open to new ideas in a situation you're in, use your enviroment. Be the Jackie Chan of tf2.
Bravo Slurgi. Awesome video.
That loadout at the start, C&D + YER, has to be the most fun loadout on defence
Today everyone is so aware of trickstabs that they don't even come close, like pyro he keeps air blasting. engineer keeps using gun its hard to get trickstabs
nope it's about how good you are.
anyone, and I mean anyone, who comes within melee range of a spy can (and should) be trickstabbed. Granted let that be a last resort, but as a spy, its all about how you adapt so that your play style overcomes that of your opponents. NEVER GIVE UP!!
*stares off into the distance
look up culruldud c2c and reverse matador
watch the start of the video when slurgi said the type of spies who only know how to trickstab and nothing else about spying meets the player who can counter them and tell me if ur assumption is right
Hey Slurgi, awesome content! Because of your concepts I got banned from some pubs lol. Anyways I just wanted to thank you and also I want you to make more vids if you have time!
Did that blind stair stab on barnblitz on a scout. He said nice move in the chat after. It was the most satisfying tf2 moment of my life
And now you'll most likely get insulted for trickstabbing someone
This is why we love you.
slurgi is so badass but so knowladagble at the same time.
Really helpful. Keep making videos. They are awesome)
Yeah this video was awesome! good job man!
I hate playing spy and playing against it but out of curiosity I clicked on this video and was suprised by how well you explained everything! Ima try this shit out on pubs right now.
keep us updated about how you fail, too
+Fenrir I don't play fucking spy lol
This video helped me very much. Thank u
The real question is: Why the fuck that medic is using an Ubersaw in medieval mode?
They are all spy mains. It was during a stream. Slurgi asked someone to go medic so he could demonstrate how to dodge the average medic in a normal mode. No one was actually playing the map seriously. It was for demonstrative purposes.
mightybird9 Oh, well. Thanks for the information.
That's a one, deep video. Really nice :)
master of deception, psychology, psychological
OMG SLURGI WELCOME BACK TO RUclips!!!
Very helpful and informative video
Very well done, from the best
Really good Video, I enjoyed it and learnt something from it. :)
This was fantastic.
Dear Slurgi:
I enjoy all your spy videos. Concepts help andI naturally enjoy looking at your frag videos. Your humble nature and phychology are really... enjoyable I suppose. Reason for this Shitty letter is just me to move onto my question. Why not make more RUclips videos? Your concepts could inspire so much more than just going on livestreams. The explanations help me tremendously. Keep stabbing >:3
The medic with the ubersaw might have hit slurgi if he swung before coming in range. The 0.25 second swing time helped with dodging, as the medic swung when he came into range.
If they strafe from left to right, you can tell that they're not gonna fall for a matador, and probably a corner. You could try a low incline jump stab at this point, but it's safer to pull out your revolver.
You're a legend.
this is a very good video.
your back!
This is really helpful, 10/10 :)
You don't need for your enemy to turn, you can just strafe to their side, but it's harder to pull off because your enemy needs to not be strafing left or right. It's kind of like sidestepping your opponent.
yay new video of best spy of world
at the beging of the video I thought this was just going to be a load of shit but this video is actualy extremly education and I was blown away by your skills.
You really master trickstabs. Still, many people forget they aren't raw dm skill, but more like situation awarness and prediction. Just like spy in general. Most spies rely on normal backstabbing because if you strike on right moment it will be that much easier to pull of.
Thanks for doing these videos, I main pyro and find them very helpfull. I would consinder myself pretty hard to trick, because I follow spies like you. And I trust my trace aim enough.
And a little tip for all spies working on tricks, they are like normal stabs. They work only if the victim doesn't see it coming.
Best spy i have ever seen, you have sick timings, waiting for visual cue is just gives your opponent equal chance to get you.
However i feel they were eager to get into stab range, pyro should have called it a day, heavy suicided. Two simple rules pretty much keeps you safe, 1. stay out of stab range, 2. only chase spies if he can't surprise you.
+ take high ground if you can, take wide corners, off time your entries, watch your back etc..
The question is, would you able to trickstab yourself reliably, or just comes down to the simple fact you can make it work more often than most ? :)
I would be curious of a video of what stabs you fall for and can you eliminate them or not.
How do you get your spys arm to show with viewmodel 90 like that mines like half missing
Nice Work, this is the reason this channel is that great. Variety. Thank you Thank you I will definitely be using these concepts in my spying :) -nat
He moves so early, before the enemy knows what's coming, by acknowledging the enemy knows where he is, and moving in a new direction just as the enemy sees him. You can see this at 9:12 to 9:48 and this seems like lightning fast movement, but it is practice of knowing when an enemy will see you.
Spy is interesting in 1v1, and these concepts may be able to be transferred to other classes. As scout, you could become invisible by using this as you may move fast enough to get out of an enemies FOV entirely by moving when you think that he sees you. Good luck with this though, you might have to spend years practicing this...
Just wow Slurgi, these concepts are amazing.
Yeah!
Just like trickstabbing, it took the creator of these trickstabs years before he publicly showed it to us.
He was recognized as the Father of Trickery.
So, if you managed to replicate Spy's movement to other classes, then that's another wonder.
Jonard Lolz Late reply, but any idea who this "creator" is?
Search "It was all a trick"
That is the creator of the trickstabs.
Ode to Animosity
Sorry for this late reply, but if you're still curious on who the real trickstabber was, search up SubtleArt. He first introduce the dropstab, then the stairstabs. OMFGNinja introduced these trickstabs to his Spy tutorial and thus the trickstabs became popular.
But SubtleArt died in real life. RIP
Yay, you're back!!! What have you been up to?
Countering trickstabs is as simple as pressing the s key when the spy is about to get into point blank range
Blind stabs sometimes doesnt work if the situation is calm. If situations are more "info overload", I find stabs to be easier
Welcome back!
This is overcomplicated, you become good with practice
Note that Slurgi uses a really high sensitivity, probably around 3 inches per 360, and this allowed him to stairstab much easier and makes him feel powerful. It's why he can't flick ambassador like most people, he has to strafe and keep his crosshair at head because his sens is so incredibly high. All good spies have at least 4 inches per 360.
+mazoadong Not exactly true. Sensitivity is not fixed. Stabby uses a script that changes his sense from gun to knife. That way, you can do crazy stabs, and pull off sick headshots all the time.
***** Yes, I asked about that, and apparently it's okay.
+MysticRixel Well it obviously is working for him though
Powindahh Because he only does strafe-aim.
***** And got to plat doing just that.
the last clip, the heavy knew exactly how to counter all this. He pulled around the corner too far for a good jump. A lot of these can easily be countered by poking out then back up once again. The problem is a lot of players are not aware of this, even in higher skill levels. So then the spy incorporates reversals into the mix. It's simply being fully aware and never underestimating a spy until you know for a fact what their range of skill is.
The best spy moment in my career was on dustbowl, getting completely steamrolled by the red team. First point capped and entire team getting spawncamped. I was able to get through where two enemy engineers were laughing on second point w/ two lvl 3 sentries. I had Your Eternal Reward, and as a desperation measure, jumped off the ledge, sapped both sentries, backstabbed both engies and capped the point. I nearly shit my pants with pure ecstasy.