Understanding Spy Movement [Commentary]
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- Опубликовано: 20 янв 2015
- Clip at 8:30 thanks to my friend 3dayrespawn, you can check out his full video on that here: • Feign Jumping [Tutorial]
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J-Walk - French Letter
Bedsides - Some Place Quiet
Tru Comers - New World
Centz - London Underground 
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1. watches Slurgi play TF2
2. Gets inspired & motivated and goes to play TF2
3. Gets rekt
4. Cries
5. Repeats
That's how I learned.
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stephen allen Wait a second....
*Rips off Grammar Nazi arm patch and runs into the forest sobbing*
Aha :3
***** Don't do that. :(The internet says they're both right, but Learnt is common-ish outside of North America.
Very helpful video! I don't play spy very often, but it's very good to understand the enemies methods so that I can avoid falling for simple manipulation. Basically what I've learned is... DON'T try and melee a Spy! Use your gun or simply stay out of melee range until you can get assistance. A good Spy can easily land a backstab on you when you're chasing them.
Well, most of the time, if you don't we can just run away.
It's good to know that the bigger TF2 RUclipsrs watch each other. It gives you a sense of the community that the game has developed as well as the knowledge that even the good players desire to understand more about the game.
OatmealTheCrazy And most of the time, we can use our gun to outdmg the enemy.
Uncle Dane you should give this guy a shoutout, he is probably the second most helpful tutorials, after yours of course
If you play a class in tf2 less you are better then the people who main that class unless if they are a comp player or an expert on it.
140k🎉still rewatching in 2024
lenny same
Same
same
2020 still super helpful
same, i drop spy 20 bombs now but still trying to improve
"Movement is a channel (in) which players communicate through that is open to manipulation." - Slurgi, Understanding Spy Movement
Luv ur frags : )
the sheer nostalgia from watching this
ik :(((
I watch MrPaladin For mindset, stabby for quick reacting and flashy stabs, and Slurgi for movement and tricking enemies.
+subhim2 I wonder what videos these pro spies watched or all of them are self taugh? xD
+Lizard reptilian What division you are does not show how good of a player is. I bet I could beat him as a medic
+TheUKNutter spy isn't about 1v1. Also he would just blast your head off. Mr. Paladin is a pretty crappy spy. Slurgi definitely knows his stuff and then stabby is a great competitive spy, less so of a pub spy.
+ProGuyGaming! No he won't.
TheUKNutter
Oh okay. I forget about the part where stabby just wont shoot... Yeah okay bud. Medics are easy to kill 1v1, one headshot two bodyshots does a maximum of 202 dmg. Thats more than enough to kill a medic, even if it takes you a while after hitting him once. Idiot.
"And here I'm going to decloak in front of half the enemy team and set timers on each of them so that I can jump off this active teleporter, trickstab half of them then walk backwards towards this pyro, then immediately go towards a spun up heavy. I then trickstab the pyro off the heavy's knockback and make my escape."
It's all in the muscle memory, conscious thought rarely goes through your mind in regards as to how you play as so many things are racing through your head.
What separates slurgi from most other spies is analyzing other players, thinking consciously about trickstabs, and not just sticking to the matter of "press a press d get kills". You even did some circlestrafes there. His movement and thought process is also phenomenal.
So basically, if movement is a form of language, you can tell lies with it
haha
I'm so bummed that i didn't bump into these spy channels like Stabby and Slurgi sooner. I've plaid 700+ hours of spy so far and it's always just been about stab everything that turns it's back to you. shoot every head which isn't moving too erratically. I've never put so much tough into what I'm doing in game until now. I've seen a dramatic increase in my success at stuff like trick stabs and Juking players in melee range and with the IW. I really appreciate these videos Slurgi thanks and keep up the good work!
I have this list
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15bBYnhuWZphjE-IrXbHZu6cEZ7FjStwJ8a7L_CxQ_bk/edit#gid=0
It's basically my collection for personal use or to help new/struggling players.
Maybe some day I'll be good at spy long enough to make my own videos.
OatmealTheCrazy Nice work dude and nice mention of the OMFGNinja the legend.
Lucas Cavalcanti He was great and all, but I wish SubtleArt got more recognition. He was one of the first well known spies if not the first. Sadly TF2 was way smaller when he was popular. Named my revolver after him since he always played stock.
Is very sad that he is stoped play tf2 he was my spy hero in the past now me new hero is slurgi do u watch?
Lucas Cavalcanti He's in the list, and he didn't just stop. He died.
I wish trickstabs didn't look as weird as they do from the perspective of the one getting stabbed, because a lot of the times it just looks like he's not even on the edge of being able to backstab you.
It took me about 2 weeks after finding this channel, but I can somewhat get stabs like slurgi now. I have 230 hours in spy and spent hours 100-200 only working on amby aim. Which isn't a bad thing to do. The first 100 were just basic spying around stuffs. Anyways, after about 2 weeks of trying to learn how to move like slurgi, I can now walk into a crowd of 4-5 people and trickstab as many as i can, then if i get at low health, i can keep a distance and headshot them. It is so rewarding. I feel like these tutorials are going to be what let me become a jack of all trades.
well i keep watching the video and i cant understand what he means would you help me ?
iroslayer -_- I quit spy sorry :/
Lifemarr why ?
iroslayer -_- I found out about 6s
Lifemarr well if you remember can you tell me or teach me
i think most players in this game, not just spies, underestimate the importance of movement.
Iv been so hyped for this vid Slurgi and let me say the hype was real, well done vid
4 almost 5 years later and I still refer young spies to the same old video. Slurgi you are a legend.
whatched this vid 6 times I keep coming back
Oh my goodness, though this was originally posted 5 years ago, this helped so so much. Thanks Slurgi
this video was actually super helpful. I've had "good movement" for a while in that I'm able to airstrafe and dodge well (soldier main, rocket jumping and all that), but I never thought of movement as a form of communication. after hearing that in this video though I have to say that's actually pretty spot on. great vid!
thank you so much for this masterpiece!
Thanks for sharing this with me Slurgi, this video really helped me to realize I need to practice movement more
Thanks Slurgi
Really appreciate your vids i find them entertaining yet education, which is a big feat since most of my teachers cant do that :) so cheers and keep up the good work
probably the best videos for spy tips, enjoyed the vid just like the rest that u have uploaded
Thw a lot for this video, i was waiting since the annoucement on the steam group and at least it's here ! Thx again
This is a really interesting and challenging video. I thought the philosophy of playing Spy is to strike distracted/unaware players and nope out of danger when spotted, but you're showing how to dance in someone's face and still defeat them. Quite a different approach!
Thanks for using Some Place Quiet! So cool seeing it in a TF2 video, of all places! Thanks again :)
You are my only proper spy teacher that helped me massively. Appreciate that.
These movement things are really important as its look, i'm playing spy for 5 years and still love how this and others spy videos(like stabby's one) helps me to improve my playstyle. Of course there is no one best but keep practicing and understanding really helps you going to be better in this class. Also keep it a good spying video! :)
dude you're like a magician
Totally agree. It must take you only nanoseconds to figure this stuff out.
Awesome video Slurgi! Almost 1000 hours and I'm still learning new things!
I admit I've failed to resist being hyped for this video :)
Slurgi, you know, you are my ideal when playing spy. But you see not everyone can do like this. The reason is PING. Like I have never played lower than 190 ping. And when it comes to trick stabs, the only stabs we can do is stair, side and matador stabs and, to some extent corner stab if the enemy has little or no reflexes. The lag compensation sometimes makes things harder by rewinding the game and blah blah. We know already.
But really, whenever I see your videos, it makes me play more of this game and discover the different techniques and play styles of spy! Thank you so much slugi, you made me understand all the stair stabs and other ones!!
Thanks once again
M. Asbaat Amar.
You've said this amazingly well.
Great job!
Great video man, this really helped a lot! Keep chugging out content like this and youll be the next TF2 youtube celeb :D
slurgi you dont even need all of these trick stab videos. all you need is a movement video and a sidestab video.
still your videos are really helpful and i love them all cant wait for more.
Thanks for everything Slurgi
Another explanation/closer look into the spy, you gotta love em'. Thanks for uploading
Thank you for your time and efforts
Your music is always the coolest!!
This is an amazing video, Slurgi. Thanks!
The next tricks tab video you make, can you show us the perspective of the other player so we can have a better understanding of why the trick works?
you dont know how trickstabs work? pffttt
Great job thinking about what really makes an effective player overall, spy or not, rather than focusing only on the last-second stab movement as most guides do. Just when I thought spy guides had everything covered. Adding to the top of my guides playlist :)
I luv you slurgi youre my favorite spy ever you are so good i became good because of you, i used to suck but then i got better and better, i watched all of your turorials over and over again and now i have a 2 minute compilation of trickstabs, its all because of movement, i got 3 matadors in a row, thank you so much! I will always subscribe to you, i showed you to all my friends that play spy, and all 3 think you are awesome.
While I don't play spy any more, I still use this mindset with other classes and not just to fight decent spies. You can manipulate people with scout as well to get back scatter crits, or market gardens. If you are reading this Slurgi, thanks for being the absolute king.
I keep coming back to this video. It's so chill and informative. Love you slurgi. Hopefully TF2 stays alive until they admit it needs community control.
Watching Slurgi and Stabby's video really did help me improve a ton.
Really useful. That idea of making people do stuff makes a lot of sense. Now to get good at movement.
Slurgi ive tried to add you twice but what i really meant to add was because i want you to make a video on how to know where they are looking or how to understand our movement like if we move in a specific direction how to figure out where would the enemy fall on our trap when to strafe when to execute our stab.
This was the reason why i wanted to add you.
That was exactly the video I needed.
Thanks mate.
Just need to train and improve now...
Good job, keep going =)
Oh, I wanted to ask as well if you had any advice about how to practice it. Is there any map in your knowledge that is good to train on? Medieval maybe?
Amazing video. Best video in a while. More videos just like this please :)
Something every aspiring spy should know: BE UNPREDICTABLE! This was a very enlightening video to watch, and one that every new spy Main should take a look at.
The idea of communicating your movement to your opponent helped me understand how to make some tricks work, and how to fool the enemy team more consistently. Also, illusions are probably the most fun part of spying.
top notch man, nice vid!
Thanks for still making videos!
Awesome video helped me a lot. :)
TF2Slurgi wow great video man! i was a spy noob!before see ur videos Thx a lot man!
I love your taste in music
THANK YOU, YOU HELPED SO MUCH
Wow thx alot slurgi it really helped me.
is nice to watch this vids because if u watch a spy main player, u can learn the movements. even if u are not a spy main.
Nice vid! Keep on posting these kind of vids pls!
Just wow. Respect. Those were tricks I've never seen before. Subscribed
he brings a whole new meaning to pub spy
Beautiful movement
Even after the tenth time, I'm mesmerised watching this.
this is really impressive
Still coming back to this video 2021
Good players don't use melee, they use guns.
Regardless, excellent video.
In comp play you should abide to that rule, but in pubs there is plenty of time trickstabs are a faster way of killing some1.
Great players use both.
its medieval mode = melee only and bows
Hamza Akhtar What if you are not playing degroot keep?
MrJason005 Great players use both.
-General Confusion
This is amazing :)
i luv u for this
i started the match horrible and now am the top score
I would've loved to see the dodging your brother parts from his perspective too
I started playing TF2 just to play Spy. I don't really like FPS games, tbh, but... I love playing Spy for same reason I love magic tricks. Deception and manipulation are able to do amazing things... Or in TF2, make someone ragequit.
I think I like the idea of that not just for my power lust, but also for fact that it's not easy to do, but it's hella fun, and it can be rewarding.
Thanks for an amazing video, I hope it'll help me.
amazing video, thanks
I love you Slurgi :D thnx for the video
thx m8
I am impatient guy and I'm gonna rage a lot as spy but still try to improve, meaby day by day I can get better
Damnit i was going to make a muscle memory video lol, But thanks for the tips man!
***** your videos are awesome white rice ;) i hope you'll have a lot of succes in your life with skatebording and all your projects you're awesome and very freindly good luck dude we'll miss you
I think that you can practice as much you want, but if you dont have a good ping (40-30) it's A LOT harder to do those crazy range matadors or trickstabs in general.
That's what i thought in 2000 hours
totally agree with you i played spy for 300 h when i play with the invis watch i can juke people like slurgi said in the video but when it comes to crazy matadors its way harder when you have a shitty ping 80 90 sometimes when my internet is good i can get a ping of 60 70 and with this lowerping i get way more trickstabs
mouvement is really important even with a high ping you can still juke poeple to escape when it comes to trickstabs its way harder
94GOOGLE94 I also have 50fps :D
Maddisch on my standard 30fps comp I just used maxframes+ m0re's config. Everything looks like shit, but I had to limit it to 120.
OatmealTheCrazy
Do you have to put the m0res config into the cfg folder?
Maddisch rename whatever config you want to use as autoexec.cfg and put it in cfg foler
Great video, well explained.
Very Helpful
Gosh thank you for this video. Its sad how many people I see making the most obvious of attempts.
A true ninja. 2fast2quick
amazing.
Thank you very much for this tutorial.
man you rly ninja in tf2 with the spy class
Godlike :) awesome video Slurgi
Very helpful. Everytime I’m in this situation the enemy gets a crit hit and I just die 😊
Am I the only one who think "R.I.P dead ringer" everytime I see these videos ?
Dead Ringer is OP as fuck atm.
Very informative. Wish this video existed when I was into TF2.
you left tf2?, sad.
dodging is an art
I used to sorta spam wasd until the moment I saw my hand move into the backstab motion, which worked like once
I used to have problems but after about a month I'm doing really good now
Oh ya, this one time I lasted the full game just juking people in medical in front of them, and got mvp
MF DOOM of spy tutorials
My ankles broke just watching the video
Even after watching the 3-4 hour ish long circle video I still came to visit this video cause I am still getting rekt by everyone
I ve been waiting for this videos and I would like to see how you play highlander in lobbies and join a team to get your skillz to the next level. I believe you will be more amazing than stabby stabby if u do.
I found a null movement script to be a very useful thing, almost necessary.
Im new to your channel and wanted to know if you only play spy or if you have commentaries/tutorials for other classes that are in the making?
... this is what i'm missing. I'm good at trickstabbing and this would just be the next leap.
Awesome! Do you have a general schedule of when you stream?
Was told to go here. Still cant predict pyros around corners.
So I have 400+ hrs as Spy, mostly because I just enjoy playing Spy, and I had never tried any of this before. I watched this vid and practiced a ton on degroot and IT ACTUALLY WORKS. You need to assess the average player skill level on a server as soon as you hop on, and then you can trick away with movement so convincingly. Really good players expect you to juke and dodge in certain ways, so you need to outwit them. Noob players don't even expect you to do that, so if you juke and dodge against them, you're actually setting yourself up for failure because they won't do what you expect them to do.
It's like a never-ending mindgame. Makes Spy so much more fun. You know it's working when you force half the enemy team to go Pyro and flame away like there's no tomorrow.
Literally nodded to all thos problems