Malenia Is Misunderstood
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If the rot affecting the brain’s decision is a real thing, it seems that as long as you have something you care for very deeply, you’ll retain that aspect of yourself. Radahn still kept the stars at bay and still hovered over his horse even after becoming bestial.
If holding back the stars was that important to him, then his best friend would not have tried to hold a festival to kill him.
@@popkhorne5372 His friend wanting to put him to rest may be his own importance that he felt was needed more than holding the stars at bay
I'm more interested in where did he find this info. It seems to me that most of these lore videos are rushed and the people making them just make stuff up to fill any gap they come across.
@@francois199 most lore comes from items or quest and also interpretation, so I suppose that.
@@popkhorne5372 I bet it was believed that the strongest and the most honorable Demigod shouldn’t have to live out his life like a wild animal. His soldiers respected him and he had to bear the weight of the entire world, the entire Universe on his shoulders. I think it’s not unreasonable to let him rest finally in Death than keeping him a suffering wild animal in life.
Malenia was trained by the blind swordsman. Facts in the lore. My theory is that he trained her for the eventuality of her being blind as well. So that’s why she’s still a capable warrior even though she’s blind
The blind swordsman has to be the strongest being in the lore. This guy solo'd the Outer Rot God...BLIND! The Outer Gods are on a much higher level than the paltry vassal gods we know if in-game like Marika or even the Elden Beast. The only being other than the player who could possibly do this is Maliketh.
@@terminalarray1047 man i hope we get to fight an outer god in the dlc
@@mohammadsaleem5990 The greater will isn’t even that all powerful, the outer god control of the lands between has changed many times
@@greenlightxbpg no it hasn't. Only two gods have had FULL control. It has changed once. Before the greater will it was the fire giants' fell god. There's also the dragon god that placidusax worships but that's heavily implied to just be the greater will. Tiny influence like all the other gods doesn't count.
@@mohammadsaleem5990 the dragon god had control before tho i only ever saw the giants minding their own business
An important detail to consider is that Moghwyn's Palace sits directly underneath Caelid.
with Malenia fighting Radhan in Caelid and having Moghwyn’s palace being under Caelid and so close to Nokron. We know Miquella made the unalloyed gold needles to prevent Outer Gods influence but if Mogh brought Miquella to ascend to Godhood, perhaps the Hidden Treasure of Nokron plays a part, being a tool to harm the Greater Will and its Vassels. And it’s strange that the Finger Slayer blade was created from a corpse. Who’s body formed the blade?
A few things as well, the portal in consecrated snowfield could be how mohg stole Miquella, also the finger slayer blade is shaped similar a black knife, which are connected to pieces of the rune of death. It is also intresting that the gold needle we find for millicent, is found broken presumbly where Malenia and Radahn fought, yet Gowry was able to fix it. Gowry, an unknown, mortal sage, fixed a device one of the smartest demigods crafted to try and cure his sister with. That, as well as according to the rotten wing insignia, he helped guide millicent's four sisters to the haligtree already. Also, according to the normal Wing Insignia, Malenia was referred to as Malenia the Severed. Now that might refer to her prosthetics, but what if, similar to a plant, Malenia's Scarlet bloom plant caused parts of her to split apart, such as her will and such, and these parts instead manifested as Millicent and her sisters.
And maybe, Miquella, also know as St. Trina, might have escaped his captor with a clever trick, and tries to guide the pieces of his sister back home to where they belong
Cut content seems to show that the falling star was intended to land in the center of the battlefield, and open up a route to Mohgwyn palace.
Specifically, right under the Heart of Aeonia
elden ring lore: miquella built the haligtree out of love for his sister and devotion to his people
Me after eradicating half of its population on my way to brutally slay malenia: oh
It's ok.... we're the bad guy most of the time 😅😅😅
It's a logic of our modern world great powers: "It's their fault for defending their homeland!"
See a defenseless POW Albinauric (Silver one were Albinauric who tried to rescue Miquella) in Moghwyn palace.....
Me : nice rune!!
@@unknownbenefactor8029 lol That's why they're not tagged as aggressive lmao
Incredible
Which is why i choose to run past the majority of enemies in any area unless i specifically need something from them
Imagine if our characters weren't mute.
~Malenia stirs from her slumber, ready to fight~
"Ma'am, stay your sword! I found your brother but I can't retrieve him on my own"
~Malenia and The Tarnished go on a road trip, retrieve Miquella and return, also The Tarnished hands over the unalloyed gold needle from Millicent and progress is made in curing Melania~
Weird, but i wish someone writes something about that.
@@serjacklucern4584 There may be fanfic about it in the future.
How it would actually go;
”Ma'am, stay your swo-eghhhhhh”
* *dull thump as your head hits the floor* *
@@WhatIsThisPhuckery I dunno she does the slow walk thing once the fight starts, plenty of time to mention wanting to help... especially if you let her beat up your mimic whilst trying to get through to her... maybe.
Best ending
Mohg is a schemer and a long planner. It's entirely possible for him to have stolen Miquella and pinned the blame on Radahn.
I see Mohg as satan/devil/hades
@@molerjsliva9277 Oh there yeah, I'd agree. Maybe not a 1 to 1 situation, as Rykard also has alot of Satan elements to him as well.
@@molerjsliva9277 hades is nothing like Satan you mongbat go goggle it please
Mohg: “i’m going to do What’s Called a PRO GAMER MOVE” yoink miquella out of halig tree, and let everyone fight each other to death.
Radahn started a war to seize the capital during the shattering that Marika caused, whilst Ranni simultaneously stole the Rune of Death,
which allowed her to cast away her Empyrean body and transfer her soul into her current one, to rid herself of the influence of the Greater Will.
During Melania's fight with Radahn, Mogh stole Miquella from the Haligtree.
I don't believe Melania knows who stole Miquella, if she did she would've went on a bloody crusade to get him back.
The Moghwyn Palace is beneath Caelid, which could have led her there, before reaching a stalemate with Radahn.
That’s a good thought!
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@@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 bruh why are you quoting the Bible on a video about a video game lol cringey maye
@@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 this sounds familiar, is this from something?
Not likely. Mohg kidnapped miquella while Malenia was out already fighting Radahn. Mohg wouldn't have been able to if Malenia was still in the haligtree
Wish we had a choice to tell Malenia where Miquella is instead of fighting her.
She's blind and doesn't know that Miquella isn't there. She's been asleep since fighting Radahn.
@@WhatIsThisPhuckery incorrect. She says she’s waiting for his return and has been. She knows miquella is gone. I also wish we could have found out about miquella last whereabouts and told malenia so she could help us curb stomp Mohg, and maybe even Varys or whatever the dudes name is. Then we could have gotten miquella back to the haligtree and had a different secret ending
@@MeekMallard when she says she's waiting for his return, she means she's waiting for him to emerge from the haligtree. That's why she's asleep in the chair at the base of the tree, she believes she's guarding him. If she knew Miquella wasn't there, she's be out in the lands between carving bloody swathes out of everyone trying to find him. Mohg stole Miquella from the Haligtree during Malenia's battle with Radahn, and after the fight she collapsed and was dragged unconscious by one of her knights from Caelid to the haligtree, where she stayed asleep and on guard.
Could also be that lore wise maybe the player faces Malienia first before Mogh
@@zghostly_ anything the player does is fluid and therefore only canon in that playthrough. I could canonically skip both if that were the case.
We not gonna talk about how Malenia was wearing FULL GOLD ARMOR when finlay carried her!? Finlay is an absolute legend
susuususussimP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@fariyanahmed6592 finlay is a girl
@@dragonlordplacidusax9413 and?
Best Girl Finlay as well as the Knife Assasin
and of course my headless horseless spear girl Luthel
@@mccoolfriend6818but which one is the best?
Miquella based dlc is definitely one of the things I want the most
and it will also probably happen
@@sesawter4999 remember ds1 when we thought the dlc would be about Gwyn's firstborn? If the FromSoft pattern holds true, we've got 3 games before we get those answers
@@WhatIsThisPhuckery elden ring 3, so we're looking at a 2035 release?
@@moonlightwarriorgaming743 nahh I reckon elden ring: the ringening will be 2029
@@WhatIsThisPhuckery honestly, the game is too popular for From to not make it into a larger series.
Malenia’s encounter with Radahn makes a lot more sense given the description of his great rune, which states that it “Burns to resist the encroachment of the Scarlet Rot”, also explaining how Radahn was able to survive the Scarlet Aeonia in the first place
I viewed that as his great rune using its power to stop radahn degenerating further rather than doubling his health
Seeing as Malenia's aim in life is to serve her brother who wants to cure her.... Malenia probably isn't exactly trying to SPREAD the rot now is she?
I thought that the rune burning was an after effect, like a defense mechanism of the rot going off within him. I don't know if it burned like that before they fought
@@magimon91834 that's what I'm saying, in a healthy person it basically doubles their health, but since Radahn is infected his rune is using its power to stop him degenerating any further
@@zireael9797 Of course not, after all she nuked the place, and she and her brother takes those afflicted under their shelter, nuking Caelid wasn't part of the plan.
I feel like Miquella shouldn't be a boss, but instead should be another secret ending. Like we enter into his service and help him revive the Haligtree and cure the scarlet rot, and we maybe fight worshippers of the rot along the way.
And not kill Melania and instead befriend them
Yeah, Miquella was generally pretty popular right? I always figured he would be a friendly NPC.
I would really love to see this in a future DLC, Miquella and Malenia deserve happy endings IMO even if Malenia is the most famously BS boss in Elden Ring, What can I say she has what is essentially super cancer which very much has to suck.
Millicent quest is her secret ending to me. The person she would have been had she been free from the rot.
Y'all acting like FS does happy endings what games you guys been playing haha?
This may be extremely wishful thinking, but I'd love an *alternative ending where we HELP get Miquella back* to his tree! Working alongside Melania to Fight Mohg and his Formelss Mother would be a spectacle.
In fact, there's a cut NPC who's connected to Miquella, and tells us things like St. Trina actually being an alias for Miquella! If we get DLC it'd be cool if this NPC is reintroduced
when i saw for the first time malenia like that and talking about her brother i felt like she was sad and in that moment i was like why tf do i have to fight her she is a sister worried about her brother and i know where he is and i already killed his kidnapper for the first time in a soul saga i felt like we dont need to fight (sorry astraea and vinland it was the only way).
@@altair658 the Maiden Astraea fight definitely needed an option other than "fighting" even though she just dies after you kill the Knight.
@@ijustmakeinflammatorycomme9839 indeed i felt like shit vinland dont want to even hit you and always tell you to go away and the lore all it makes its make it worse for us
actually, there are items in game that allude to this. like St Trinas torch. you draw the connection from that, knowing about Miquellas eternal youth.
im not going to poat the lore here, because i dont want to misquote. so feel free to check out the item yourselves.
I don't know If this is true or not but i have read a comment saying that Melania saying "Sweet Tarnished" and "Dearest Companion" in a Cut dialouge
One interesting thing is that Marika and Ranni are described as "chosen" empyreans, while Malenia and Miqella are just empyreans. It seems the Greater Will had rejected them, probably due to the Rot in Malenia and Miqella's disillusionment with the Golden Order.
It looks like they're trying to make their own Golden Order (with blackjack and hookers) to flat out get rid of the Erdtree and Greater Will.
In the quest of ranni she said the four of them are empirians, but malenia and miquella refused to pursue the charge and she doesn't like the golden order and refueses also
maybe Malenia fought Radahn because Radahn was stopping the falling star from hitting the earth, which allowed us to go to Nokron, Where Mohg and the cocoon of Miquella is very close by
During the fight with Radahn, Miquella was still at the Haligtree. Mohg took Miquella from the Haligtree during Malenia's slumber after her fight with Radahn.
@@alloftheexperts2111 We dont know that for sure.
it's interesting that the Haligtree kinda parallels the painted worlds from DS in that both seem to be havens for outcasts. the painted worlds are referred to as homes for the forlorn and the haligtree (at least outside the "city") is populated by the misbegotten (who also live in the cave of the forlorn). so maybe Miquella is supposed to be a Priscilla or Maiden Astraea standin?
Someone, somewhere(can't remember) mentioned that Radahn holding the stars is somehow messing with the Haligtree, possibly prolonging Miquela's slumber. I also see a lot of people mentioning that Moghwyn Palace is beneath Caelid which is a good point.
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The Palace being underneath Caelid is a coincidence - Miquella was taken from the Haligtree after Malenia fought Radahn. Line of thinking that Malenia may have been looking for Miquella completely disintigrates when you realize that Mohg took advantage of Malenia's slumber to be able to take Miquella. He would never have been able to take Miquella while Malenia was at full strength.
@@alloftheexperts2111 we don’t know that. He could have very well been taken before.
@@gandalfthewhite.5245 actually we do. It's described in some items you can find. Malenia herself was not unaffected. Unleashing the Scarlet Rot left her in a coma. She was rescued by one of her Cleanrot Knights, Finlay, and brought to the Haligtree to await her brother's rebirth, as he had encased himself within the Haligtree in an effort to reverse his curse. However, during Malenia's slumber, Miquella was ripped from the womb of the tree and taken away by Mohg, Lord of Blood before he could emerge from his cocoon
It's possible that she is both blind and a capable warrior. Her teacher was blind and he was a skilled swordsman that beat the god of the Scarlet Rot
I think in a sort of Nausicaa-esque way, the game tries to tell us that Scarlet Rot isn't a negative force, just one that's inhospitable to human life. Miquella and Malenia are the cycle of birth and decay, but one creature's decay is another's birth. One of the most emotional moments of the game for me was coming upon the pests in Elphael's cemetery. Adult and child kindred of rot, basking in the sun, holding ritual services, caring for one another. But it's so alien to us as a tarnished, that what can we do but burn it to the ground?
This is also why Gowry is so upset at the end of Millicent's quest. Malenia, Millicent, the deities of rot scorn their own gift, their own curse, and thereby also scorn all things granted life by it, and that sure has to suck when you're one of the things granted life by it.
Regarding the need to fight Radahn, ultimately what it gets us is access to Nokron. It's possible that Malenia DID know more about Miquella's location than it seems, and the one thing she didn't know is that the bridge from Mohgwyn to Nokron proper had been destroyed. Considering the ruinous state of the city outskirts as a whole, I had originally assumed that the weathering of time had put it in that state, but there is a lot more "rubble" on that bridge than any of the other ruins. What if Malenia had originally thought to enter Mohgwyn by way of Nokron, after gaining access by unlocking the stars?
Since no one commented on this I think you're mostly right, but due to the rot she can't quite keep her facts straight.
@@ComradeOgilvy369 that's entirely possible. My personal feeling is that a few stray lines of dialogue have caused people to draw a whole bunch of conclusions about what Malenia does and doesn't know. The way I see it, Radahn kicked Malenia's ass, and we find her waking up, or at the very least getting up, from a rest.
How's your mind going to be doing, moments after waking up from what is possibly a months- or years-long nap (at least long enough that numerous landmarks in Caelid seem built around the rot)? Sometimes I forget where I'm waking up after laying down for a few hours. Perhaps she forgot that he was missing. Or perhaps she slept so long that she figured, one way or another, he'd overcome Mohg and make his way back by the time she awoke. In any case, I think it's counterintuitive to assume Malenia is out fighting wars while her brother is missing, and those don't have anything to do with him. She's picking her targets for SOME reason, and Miquella's disappearance is clearly at the top of her mind.
I simply think she attempted the war with Radahn for he announced he will finally charge into Leyndell and become Elden Lord. Malenia knowing this is bad for the Haligtree’s rule decided to stop that at all costs. It is further implied that Radahn indeed had ambitions for the Erdtree as the opening shows him being stomped my Morgott when he was much younger.
Here's what I've been gathering from this video and all the comments. I don't think Miquella and Malenia cared about ruling the lands between or something of the sorts. And I'm pretty sure Radahn did attack the capital, but Morgott and the leyndell army were able to defend the capital warding Radahn and his army back to caelid. I think Miquella "disappeared" before Malenia went out to fight Radahn in caelid, like the video points out I believe it was a mystery to Malenia and their followers as to why Miquella disappeared (to which we know Mohg took him). Now, I obviously can't say this for sure and don't have proof that it's the case, but I believe Malenia can somewhat sense Miquella, because she went all the way to caelid for some reason that wasn't a Rune shard (or else Godrick wouldn't be spared). So why do I think she can sense Miquella and why is that important? Well because Miquella is found in the Mohgwyn palace, which so happens to be below caelid and right under Radahn's boss arena. And feeling so close to Miquella perhaps she thought Radahn was to blame for his disappearance.
@@revlismorningstar825 There is only one problem with this line of thinking with regards to Malenia searching for Miquella. When you realize that Mohg took Miquella after Malenia's fight with Radahn. Mohg takes full advantage of Malenia's weakened state and while she sleeps, Mohg carves Miquella from the Haligtree. Malenia when at full strength would never allow Mohg to take Miquella from the Haligtree, and Mogh himself would never have taken that chance either (Not a single one of them would dare head into the Haligtree with ill intent knowing Malenia is at full strength). So with that knowledge the whole line of storytelling where Malenia potentially reaches Caelid because she was looking for Miquella, however cool it may sound, kind of falls apart at the seams. There are a couple of other reasons backed up by lore in the game that support other reasons for Malenia fighting Radahn.
Everyone talks about this single Morgott "Radahn" pictures like it's accurate but I really doubt Mohg literally carried Miquella in his bear arms. The pictures aren't accurate.
@@alaintouloucanon5467 thank you. It's also not even radahns helmet, it's missing the tusks, and the size isn't right
@@alaintouloucanon5467 The Pictures take artistic liberty. Rykard is shown being eaten by a minuscule snake ,not the gigantic being revered as a god that we see in game. They are still canon for all accounts in what they portray.
I like to keep in mind George’s philosophy on creating characters: the human heart in conflict with itself. I don’t see these characters as villains, I think they had their own reasonings and that destiny struck them. Miquella (and Melina) seem to be the key pieces in this puzzle and I can’t wait to find out more. Great video!
This is how FromSoft generally did characters throughout their series too. All have their own understandable motives and desires, just sometimes you have to delve very deep to piece together the bits that give away this sort of info!
Yes. GRRM does this other thing too which is great. Every character needs a motivation, but GRRM gives every character 2 motivations. Usually their actions will attempt to pursue both. But they may do things that seem to run counter to their goals, or that doesnt seem to help them, they are pursuing an alternate goal of theirs that may be secret to the audience.
truth be told the only characters in souls games that you can truly say is either a brave hearted hero or black hearted Villian is YOUR character. the chosen undead/Tarnished is basically THE hero or THE villain. he/she is the only character in the series who you can fully identify.
@@michaelkean5969 Or Artorias
@@michaelkean5969 And also Mohg. He sucks.
I always found it interesting that you couldn't interact with Miquella's hand because it totally looks like something you could interact with in a Fromsoft game. I totally agree that's how we will access the DLC
I mean, Manus' hand pulling us back in time to Oolacile of the past in Dark Souls 1... Amygdala's hand pulling us into the Hunter's Nightmare which represents Yharnam's past in Bloodborne... It wouldn't exactly surprise me, given the timey wimey stuff going on with Placidusax and Miquella's Needle, if Miquella's hand pulled us back into the past where we could unmake Mohg's ambitions before they even happened and get a new possible ending.
Dude you called it!
My continued theory on the DLC is that we're time traveling in both directions (I hope). To fight a healthy Radahn, or to help Ranni in the night of the black knives. Or, to the future to fight miquella when he emerges from his cocoon as either himself, or by the alias of Mohgwyn. Mohg had been corrupting Miquella with his blood, and wanted to become his consort because of Miquella's god-like allure. Mohg is ridiculed as a lunatic, it would be very intriguing to see a glimpse at the Mohgwyn dynasty/what Mohg'a corruption eventually did to Miquella, and how mad at us he will be for murdering his sister he devoted his life to curing.
I don't know. It'd be cool to see Godwyn, Gransax, Placidusax, Melania, Radahn, and Miquella in healthy states. I have a very very very strong feeling we will get to see these things (considering Slave Knight Gael, and sister Frieda's difficulty in the DS3 DLCs, I'd bet we're gonna get some crazy fights. That, and time travel has already happened in DS1 and DS2)
A cool little aesthetic detail is that the two empyreans approach godhood in forms that go hand in hand with each other. Miquella is cocooned up like a caterpillar trying to become a butterfly and malenia is a closed up flower bud which blooms when she ascends.
Cute little detail
I like the idea that she constantly repeats that she is ‘Malenia blade of Miquella’ because the rot is affecting her brain and she’s terrified that she’ll forget and end up like Radahn and that she states that she has never known defeat to remind herself to keep fighting the rot
I too once thought that perhaps, just one of Marika's kids wasn't intrinsically messed up in the head. Just maybe, Miquella was this sweet guy trapped in a kid's body. Until I read that Bewitching Branch. You can do a LOT of messed up things with a Bewitching Branch, and if Miquella's natural divine gifts met or exceeded that item's power... Well, that would explain quite a bit wouldn't it? Including his dear sister's unwavering devotion, the legions of followers and Mohg's obsession. I'm not saying he didn't care about his sister, but sifting through the lore has left me with a very firm impression of the demi-gods. It's hard to be right in the head when your Mother actively encourages you to become God by any means necessary.
Only Radahn can get literally nuked and then be like "we'll call it a draw"
malenia was knocked out, dunno if he was too but if he wasn't then he could easily finish her off if she didn't teleport out.
@@wakamoon1910radahn was rendered unconscious as well, actually believed dead. add in his degregated state and technically melania won
@@wakamoon1910 she became goddess of rot when she fought radahn
@@SangNguyen-yh5wc no she didn't
@@SangNguyen-yh5wc she become Goddes of Rot when we fight her in her second phase
I feel like miquela could be both wanting to help people while also having some supernatural power over them.
I always assumed that malenia invaded caelid to reach miquella. There's a sioffra well in caelid. The rivers region share with mohgs realm. I'd think radahn would take this invasion as an act of war/attempt to steal his great rune by malenia. Since it wasn't well known that miquella had been stolen, she may not have told the other demigods her reason why she invaded caelid.
If they knew Miquella was in Moghs palace i think it is safe to assume that at least 1 of her soldiers would be around that area. Sth i want to add is that in caelid we see those 2 soldiers as bosses in a cave (where you get the gold talsiman? For more runes) maybe they were trying to get underground but failed to do so.
There is only one problem with this line of thinking. Malenia fought Radahn before Miquella was taken. She was not actively on a quest to find Miquella because Mohg took Miquella during Malenia's slumber, which was caused by her using Scarlet Aeonia Bloom on Radahn.
@@alloftheexperts2111 If that was the case, how does she know Miquella was taken? where are people getting this info, she literally went to caelid in search of him.
why mention or even know he's missing when we fight her? she wouldn't know that.
@@watertommyz As far as we know she is awaiting his return, but she doesn't know his cocoon was kidnapped she still thinks Miquella is there in the haligtree, this is why she fight us and bloom once more (when she goes phase 2 the camera took a shot of us heading to the haligtree).
If what you're saying is true about Melania still recovering from Radahn, she and Radahn must have been immensely strong before their fight.
they were the mightiest demigods according to the story trailer, so yeah they were immensely powerful. they also both have red hair, which means they are children of radagon, who was extremely powerful himself
totally, plus ending in a draw probably meant they both pushed themselves to the brink.
Also, we know that when the Scarlet Aeonia blooms during Malenia's fight with Radahn, that's the first time she's ever done that. She may not have known the extent of what would happen to the surrounding landscape when she did it, and whether she would still have gone through with it if she had is up for debate
Fun video on a very interesting topic, btw! I would love to learn more about the twins in dlc. It's so interesting to me that there is an entire religion out there who see Malenia as their messiah and can't wait for her to become their new goddess of rot, but she's not interested at all. All she wants is to protect Miquella and help him achieve his goals
Mmh lol absolutely not. We don't know if she already bloomed once before. In fact, most things point at the fact that she already bloomed once, because when we fight her it's the third time she bloomed, because she became goddess of rot.
@@MidnightatMidian we know it bloomed twice at the Haligtree. One during our fight and another one near the boss room (we can see the flower and the damage it caused).
We don’t know if she bloomed the aeonia first during Radahns battle or at the haligtree.
My personal theory is that she bloomed it first at Caelid and then at the Haligtree when Mogh kidnapped Miquella. My guess is that just like in our fight, she was able to wake up from her sleep and fight Mogh. She of course used the scarlet aeonia one more time, but she was just too weak so she succumbed back into sleep.
@@Valkyrie00 ''We don’t know if she bloomed the aeonia first during Radahns battle or at the haligtree.'' that's exactly what I've replied, read the initial conversation.
@@Valkyrie00 I don't think Malenia fought Mogh, My personal theory is that Mogh stole Miquella when she was away, How?? don't know. But I think she bloomed the first time at the foot of the Haligtree, out of despair, when she realised her twin brother was gone, and that her scarlett rot would not be cured. Remember she was''awaiting his return'', so maybe she didn't even knew that Mogh had kidnapped Miquella.
@@MidnightatMidian Maybe? I always assumed that her "goddess of rot" form was still incomplete, because it was only her second bloom. That if she had survived the fight and been able to bloom a third time, she would have become a "true goddess" and been way beyond our ability to defeat
You're right that there's no guarantee that's true, but those two are the only times we know for certain that she bloomed, so that's what I'll personally be sticking with until the evidence otherwise is a little clearer. Like in some dlc or something
My thought was that Malenia was fighting Radahn to keep him from becoming Elden Lord. The Haligtree was obviously set up in opposition to the Erdtree. Radahn was considered the most powerful of the Demigods and the most likely candidate to become the next Elden Lord, possibly in support of the golden order. I assumed that Miquella was stolen from the Haligtree while Malenia was absent and unable to defend him. The Haligtree accepted all the mistreated, so Mohg was likley allowed to enter as a mistreated Omen, and then uses his own power to spirit him away. She returns and he is gone, so she awaits his return, not realizing he was stolen away.
Malenia definitely isn't evil and was taught to keep the scarlet rot at bay by the very warrior who originally defeated it. She was definitely desperate though in her fight with Radahn, I fight we can assume she was losing until that point where she unleashes the scarlet rot. That would lend credence to the theory she was searching for Miquella, but could also mean she was so devoted to Miquella that she was willing to do anything to further his cause, perhaps without realizing the devastation it would cause to Caelid, and eventually the Haligtree without Miquella there.
I think she knew what she was doing. She just unleashed it to defeat Radahn and go back to her brother.
THANK YOU FOR THIS! This has been bothering me for a long time, the fight between radahn and melania has been so iconic, but I always wondered why. Neither radahn nor melania seem the sort to seek a fight with the other, neither of their ambitions or goals aligned at all, yet so much of the story and lore go into explaining their character. Melania's 2 motivations have always been to neutralize and overcome her curse of rot, and supporting her brother care for the mistreated and provide sanctuary to the outcasts (as close to a selfless and altruist as I've seen in a fromsoft game). So her seeking radahn just for the sake of a fight never sat right with me, and the only person melania would go so far for is Miquella, so this does add a lot of context to one of the most important events of elden ring
The stars idea is very interesting. We know the greater will has crashed several star beings into the lands between, and I think it's possible that the presence of the erdtree is some sort of marker that aids them in this. If Miquella grew his haligtree, maybe he could also guide a celestial being down into the lands between. That one is a bit of a wild theory, but I thought it was an interesting potential parallel
This is all fascinating! I also believe the twins have virtuous intentions. They seem to be good guys, but only when compared to the other demigods. 🤷♂️
@@maldor56 Not a puppet.
Radahn and the Twins are both alright
I can already imagine they make dlc for Miquella and it would be badass if it called "age of the Analoyed "
Yes, that would be awesome. We could start the ending by starting a Malenia Questline, choosing to spare or kill her after defeating her. After sparing, we could lead an assault on Mogwhyn palace with her, and return Miquella to the Haligtree, locking us into the ending, before entering the Erdtree to fight Radagon and Co. After that, like the Frenzied Flame, we can choose the sole option to "Begin the Age of Haligtree." Erdtree burns down with Destined Death, and the Haligtree glows golden as the new centrepiece of the land between. We finish as Lord of The Haligtree, with Malenia as our consort, and meet Miquella after restoring him.
1 I think radahn was simply another challenger for the great runes and they were the mightiest 2 so naturally they fought for top spot ending in a stalemate. The beginning implies had their been a victor you wouldn't be needed. 2nd I think with his blood powers mohg is the best choice to kidnap someone. He simply uses a pool of blood to discreetly slip around then take miquella and do the same out. Mind you in the beginning miquella isn't in the cocoon when mohg has him
Radahn gives me Lich King vibes, goes to great lengths to help his people but ends up harming them in the end.
As someone who did Mohg before the Haligtree, I feel like if we had the ability to talk to our enemies everything would get resolved a lot more peacefully there.
The quotes after defeating Malenia. They continue even after her body disappears, which I think means, we did not truly kill her, or either she will be, or there will be an option to resurrect her. Maybe Miquella in the DLC will do so. Why it came to my mind? When we defeat Margit, or in other words Morgott, he still continues to speak, even after he disappears. Plus after her defeat there is her bloomed flower, which her body may be in and the disappearing is just game thing. Really like this idea. It would be nice if it came true.
Isnt Mogwyn’s palace beneath Radahn’s arena? That might be why she is going to Caelid..
Mogh didn’t kidnap miqulla yet
Something interesting I kinda think is that while your battle with radhan is more about setting him free and letting him retain his honour. Malenia however throws away her last bit of "honour" as Millicent states that she lost the dignity to hold back the aeonia, to the point that she throws away her "humanity" to fully imbrace her goddess of rot form. Also I'm pretty sure mohg took miquella while malenia was at war with radhan
A theory I heard about why Melania fought Radahn is that she sensed Miquella nearby, but since Mohg is underground in his temple she saw Radahn and assumed he was the one to take Miquella
Consider Castle Sol and the Walking Mausoleums: they all wear the insignia of the eclipsed sun. It seems as if they needed the eclipsed in some manner, and seems to be related to their elder brother's dead. Maybe that's the reason for her conflict with Radahn.
I been subscribed because your theories are amazing and you seem passionate about the lore of this game.. Cheers man
Don’t be so sure. He’s probably plagiarized 90% of his content
Haven't finished the video yet, but wanted to say after hearing the thing about Miquella being a good guy and hoping we don't fight him. We killed his whole immediate family and a chunk of the extended family. His whole purpose was to heal his sister who we killed in their home. I don't see him being good enough a guy to forgive us.
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Really looking forward to getting more knowledge on Miquella from DLC 🤞
i hope the DLC will have options like we get to rescue miquella or inform that miquella was taken and relay it to malenia and help them probably on another ending that is of "The age of unalloyed".
I want to start off by saying the video was very well done and I appreciate the time you put in to look into all of this and find information. I also want to say thank you for pointing out that Malenia is NOT a villain or "bad guy" like some people pain her. The prequel to this game is a war, not honorary battle between demigods or some sort of game to draw lines for control in the Lands Between but all out WAR. Malenia used every thing she had, even putting her life on the line by blooming, to try and help her brother reach his potential and do what he thought was best for not only himself and his sister but for the people that were called to the Haligtree for protection. I do believe that Miquella and Malenia were, in my opinion, the most kind of the demigods and I do believe Miquella wanted nothing more than to do the right thing. I also believe Malenia wanted the same but she understood the world was cruel and someone would need to fight and bloody their sword to reach the goal of peace. These two characters, for me at least, are the most interesting and in depth characters in the game. One wishes to change the world for the better with his mind and own will but doesn't have the physical ability to do so and the other understands that battles and wars are hell but are necessary in this situation to bring forth peace. The chemistry between the two and the overall story arc of the two demigods is by far the best in the game and definitely deserves more love in a DLC if at all possible. Great video thank you for shedding some light on my favorite character in Malenia and showing some love to a very interesting and mysterious character with Miquella.
Just because using a nuke is the best tactical option, doesnt mean you should use the fucking nuke. Saying" it was war, so it is ok for Melania to use a nuke" it is not a good answer. Just because it is a war, it doesnt mean you can nuke a place and be the good guy. Malenia also did not have a tactical incentive to nuke Cailth, she, in fact, have greater reason to run the fuck way if she was looking for her brother, since she wouldnt be able to look for her brother ever again after that action.
@@henriquemedranosilva7142 she wasn’t looking for her brother one and two the idea that she knew the full scale of her bloom is far fetched at the least. She has never bloomed before, she had no way to know exactly how strong or how much would be affected by the bloom.
For the first point I was using the idea presented in the video
Second point. Didn't she Bloom 3 times counting the battle with have with her? Since she beacame the rot god
Also for the second point , you literally wrote that she thought she would die once she bloom?
@@henriquemedranosilva7142 She has bloomed 2 times. She became Goddess of rot when she fought Radahn.
@@SangNguyen-yh5wc no she just got knocked out.
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Subscribed buddy, thank you for your job
Mohg does have giant wings so he could’ve probably just flown him away to be honest
So you called the fact that this will be the access point to the dlc miquellas hand
This video is super good for such a small channel, it's clear a lot of effort went into it. I am surprised you don't have more subs
Someone on Reddit claims Jake plagiarized his essay. Any comment mentioning this gets deleted.
I just wanna say that these are my favorite types of videos you make
Excellent narration and walkthrough across the item descriptions, subscribed and looking forward to that DLC. Hopefully NOT fighting Miquella!
Malenia’s definitely not evil. The only characters in the game who are straight up evil are Mohg and Rykard. No on blames Malenia for being born with the Scarlet Rot affliction.
However, Malenia isn’t good either due to what she did to Caelid. Being born with rot was not her fault, but her decision to set off a bio-nuke in Caelid is 100% a choice she made. That is something she could control and she wilfully made the decision to infect a whole region of the Lands Between.
That’s why Malenia cannot be considered good, but she isn’t evil either IMO.
And the Dung Eater. Dude literally curses people for all eternity when he kills them.
I agree that the decision was wild but that decision was life or death. And i bet she couldn’t stand the fact to lose to radahn and risk her or miquella’s life. So she chose to defeat radahn by being selfish
@@uzicarries8582 Considering Radahn waited for her to put her prosthetic arm back on before fighting her, I have a strong feeling he would not have killed her had she yielded the battle.
But she didn’t. So she nuked Caelid purely to save her own pride.
@@themonolith253 Thats too big of an assumption. Considering Radahn was fighting for power he most likely wanted her great rune.
And I wouldn’t call it pride. Like i said I believe malenia did everything for miquella. Whether she knows he was kidnapped or not every move she made leading up to that battle was purely for her brother. I find that sweet. But it could also be seen as selfish considering she absolutely demolished caelid and spread rot everywhere.
@@uzicarries8582 Not really. We know Radahn was probably one of the nicest demigods. I mean the fact he waited for Malenia to fix her arm so she could fight properly is proof enough that he at least had a sense of honour.
Also Malenia challenged him, he did not challenge her. If all he cared about was power and wanted her Great Rune, why did he respectfully allow Malenia to fix herself before fighting? Doesn’t make any sense. Also, don’t forget that we have absolutely no evidence the demigods even cared about each others Great Runes. For example, on her way to Caelid with her Cleanrot army, Malenia fought Godrick, but only did so after he insulted her and when he obviously lost, she spared his pathetic life and did NOT take his Great Rune. Radahn also did not bother laying siege to Stormveil even though he knew Godrick was there. Two of the strongest demigods and neither of them bothered to claim a very easy prize of Godrick’s Great Rune. Kind of odd if their goal was power don’t you think?
Also, why would fighting Radahn have anything to do with Miquella? We have no lore implying that Malenia thought Radahn had something to do with her brothers disappearance.
I kind of remember Malenia sought tutelage under a blind swordmaster who himself sealed the God of Rot away. So, he may have passed some sort of skill along that helps her track you despite being blind.
@@LordOfChaos.x And we killed a God at the end of the game, or did you forget?
@@LordOfChaos.x We just got lucky being MC still means that we got the biggest stick in the playground and not just being an overpowered sidekick like in Elder Scroll Oblivion.
@@LordOfChaos.x We didn't become a God like being. We simply released the power (the Destined Death) to kill one. We are still the same mortal. We just brought the God down to our level.
The Greater Will is an Outer God, not your generic God in Elden Ring. Outer Gods are hinted to be a divine beings of higher hierarchy when compared to a God and had come from outer space as even the Elden Beast came down with the stars summoned by the Greater Will.
Marika was considered a God because she houses the Elden Ring inside her and the Elden Ring was what the Elden Beast latches onto so when the Beast released itself from Marika, it is a God. Thus, God Slain appeared on the screen when you killed it.
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there are no bad and good in a war....good and bad depends on which side you are on and malenia has reasons why she is desperate to win
I'd love to see dlc center around miquella and somehow the story of the stars. The star story with radahn screams unfinished business
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Consider the albinaurics whom where in service or the halig tree being present in the moghwyn palace in search of Miquella, so the cleanrot knights not knowing it is wierd.
If the dlc comes and it's focused on Miquella, he'll be an enemy. In the intro, Mohg is carrying Miquella's body and not a cocoon. Mohg was treating or giving Miquella the cursed blood of the outer god he made contact with. That could be the reason for Miquella maturing. The cocoon Miquella's in now is more than likely the making of Mohg and the blood god he's working with. I think Miquella is somewhat conscious because when we enter the arena, his hand is raised out of a cracked cocoon. And as we approach it drops leaking blood on the floor to summon or bring out Mohg. If you don't visit the 3 fingers, you still have Miquella's needle that can reject influence from outer gods. Why would we have that and not need it?
Alright, I'm going to try and rebut and clarify some things you have said.
I think the cocoon was there from the beginning and mohg came back for it or made a new one as you see tons of these cocoons in the haligtree.
Also, Miquella is completely asleep. When we come in Miquella's arm drops and then the blood pools down and Mogh comes out of the blood. Mogh sleeps with Miquella and when he leaves the cocoon he does so by turning into blood, causing the arm to drop, and then run off his arm to meet us. He litterally never looked at us but knew we were there before turning around.
I agree there is a chance Miquella will be a boss corrupted by the blood or invade his mind and fight the blood queen.
The needle was just a way to get out of the finger ending.
I think the art in the beginning is actually just concept art and not meant to correspond exactly, there’s some artistic license.
The outer God of blood is known as The Formless Mother.
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We fought good guy Radhan. We're definitely going to fight good guy Miquella. Bet he'll have a catchphrase that will be stuck in our heads too.
I am Miquella, Brain of Malenia
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"Why is Malenia The Blade of Miquella?"
*Haven't watched video yet*
Because she's never known defeat.
*Goes back to watching Gordon Ramsay videos*
Wow I’ve always thought the haligtree was an evil place, seems I was wrong.
The albinaurics were mistreated to absurd cases of atrocities and the haligtree knights, Loretta, and malenia, served as a place of refuge and a bastion of hope for them. Wow great storytelling 🥲
And yet quite a lot of people proclaim that Radahn is a saint despite him being a supporter of the Golden Order. Sure he's honorable and loves his horse very much, but that doesn't mean that he's completely flawless.
These are two of my favorite demigods I would love to get more information on both of them and yeah possibly see the brother in an expansion
Malenia fought radahn because he was holding the stars with his magic and she needed the skies to move again so that the eclipse spoken of at castle Sol would happen, this eclipse is mentioned at the castle by the ghosts who served Miquella. We know Miquella was creating a new "erdtree" with himself in a cocoon inside the roots, the place we would eventually end up fighting Malenia. So Miquella needed the eclipse ritual to be "reborn" as a full god (griffith anyone?) Miquella did this also to finally stop being stuck as a child and to obtain enough power to save Malenia from the influence of the god of rot, we can use his unalloyed needle on ourselves to nullify the frenzied flame god influence but the game says the needle is inperfect and van only be used in the heart of farum azula . Malenia went to confront Radahn to defeat him and make the skies move again but they both lost, the skies were frozen still, there was no eclipse and the haligtree never truly flourished to its full potential, Miquella was kidnapped by Mohg as he slept in the cocoon while Malenia was out fighting battles. Malenia woke up with no brother knowing she had failed and too weak to look for him.
But we defeat Radahn, (who wasn't entirely unjustified freezing the heavens, the guy was just trying to avoid as much as he could the influence of outer gods who were not the greater will, because they all see the lands between as free real estate and are constantly fighting through proxies and agents to get a hold of it and become its ruler), the skies are now moving again so the eclipse can happen now, and we also defeat Mohg. So an eclipse dlc with Miquella finally hatching from the cocoon is quite possible.
It's just so sad that Malenia Never knew the Truth of his Brother's dissapearances. And what would happen to Miquella since his Hybernation to Godhood had been halted and reshaped by Mohg?
I get the feeling we're gonna fight Miquella only because Mohg took him and he looks like a freaking demon which equals corruption. And the cocoon was hatched a little so... yeah we gotta fight him
I agree. Miquella seems to be the hero or savior the lands between needed, but he is likely corrupted by the formless mother. When he wakes, he won't likely be the same person of St. Trina, but more likely be living his own nightmare and creating that for others.
@@Kaylos29 I can hear it now. "You thought my sister showed you true horror...allow me to show you hell"
We're gonna fight him because if nothing we killed Malenia and he's gonna freak when he finds out.
@@zireael9797 that too
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I also believe that Malenia fought Radahn under the impression that he had done something to Miquella. It makes you wonder just *how* did Mogh achieve to steal him, in the middle of the Shattering, no less.
Of course, as an Omen, he would be welcome in the Haligtree, and allowed to wander around as he pleased, so it wouldn't be hard to find Miquella, but once he had the cocoon, which is pretty big, I wonder how did he carry it without being noticed (I think the picture shown in the intro of Mogh holding Miquella out of the egg happens when they're already at Moghwyn Palace, since Mogh has his trident).
It's also worth noting that the Siofra River well in Caelid, which would be used to reach Moghwyn Palace, is at the bottom of a chasm, blocked by an imp statue, and guarded by Vulgar Militia, those weird rock worm guys, and I think a golem with a spear too. I believe Mogh installed all the enemies and blockages as a safe measure in case Malenia figured Radahn didn't do anything to her brother and she had been deceived.
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Nothing implies miquella is a "good" demigod. Every demigod in Elden ring had their own motivation which is interestingly same at the end, saving the Land between from Greater Will's tyranny.
this is false. Godwyn, Godrick and Radahn were very much Golden Order fundamentalists
@@ReinerIsDaddy i agree Godrick was not but I have no idea about Godwyn since his information is very vague. However, Radahn was not Golden ORder fundamentalist.
@@xgfreedom I mean nothing suggests Godwyn wasn’t a Golden Order fundamentalist - his moniker is Godwyn the GOLDEN for a reason.
Also General Radahn looked up to Godfrey and Radagon who are both Golden Order fundamentalists and tried to take over Lyndell to become Elden Lord himself. Nothing suggests he was anti Golden Order otherwise why stop the stars? They are a threat to the Golden Order.
@@ReinerIsDaddy Actually stopping stars is directly against Greater Will.
Miquella seemed to be good. A lot of people loved him, he created a haven for outsiders, dedicated his life to curing his sister, and even tried to save Godwyn when he was killed.
I speculate that Radahn holding back the stars was in direct conflict with Miquella and growing the haligtree. The haligtree may have not been able to grow to completion due to the stars being held in place. And as we know, almost the whole point of the tree is to cure Melania. Her traveling across the entire map just to fight Radahn makes a lot more sense if this is true. Just like Jake said, if she was only after a great rune, she could’ve easily killed Goddrick. And if this is true, then I’d be pretty pissed if I was her. The only thing keeping her from salvation, was one dude. Radahn still the goat tho 🗣
The stars are tied to the fate of the Carian Royal Family, not fate itself. Ranni and her mother Rennala are part of that family. Miquella has nothing to do with that.
Godricks rune doesn't stave off rot though. She might have wanted radahns thinking it could help her afflection.
@@DCkogsch Not necessarily. As we know, Radahn learned gravity from an Alabaster lord. Alabaster’s are those elven looking dudes who are butt naked almost. Anyways, they’re an ancient race that had arisen from a meteor. One could speculate that Radahns master/teacher warned him of space. Creatures/bosses like the falling star beast and Astel are from space. So Radahn holding back the stars could be a way of preventing more of them from falling down into the lands between. Jake talks about this in his Radahn lore video too. And yeah the carian royal family are tied to the stars, but they’re not the only ones.
@@Vanlifecrisis i don’t think so. That’s what I was trying to get at with the Godrick statement. I believe she’s not after great runes at all (or at least not entirely). I believe she was trying to kill Radahn so the stars could continue their movement, henceforth continuing the growth of the haligtree. If she WAS after great runes (like almost every other demigod was) then she could’ve just killed godrick and taken his. Radahns great rune has nothing to do with scarlet rot. That’s never stated or hinted at anywhere so I don’t think that’s what she’s after.
@@christianalfaro3648 " Great Rune of the shardbearer Radahn.
Its blessing raises maximum HP, FP and Stamina.
Radahn was amongst the children of Rennala and Radagon, who became demigod stepchildren after Radagon's union with Queen Marika.
*The Great Rune burns, to resist the encroachment of the scarlet rot.*"
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All evidence suggests that she was out searching for Miquella when she came up against Radahn. She must've been convinced he was responsible for his disappearance.
No evidence supports this, at all. Miquella was sitting - albeit in a coccoon - in the Haligtree when Malenia fought Radahn and was taken by Mohg after the fight between Malenia and Radahn during Malenia's slumber. It was this weakened state that Malenia was in after the fight that opened the door to Mogh's scheme.
We don't know if Godrick had a great rune at the time he fought Melenia, do we?
And Miquella could have been kidnapped by Mohg while Melenia was gone, also possible, no?
I don't buy the stars theory, it makes no sense. The stars are tied to the fate of the Carian Royal Family and Miquella has nothing to do with that.
I think one can argue why it makes sense to go for Radahn first for a couple reasons. First, he's the strongest, after him, there wouldn't be much in her way. And his location is well known. Margott probably would have given her the rune withough a fight. But then also, a fight in the capital seems more risky in case of an outbreak. Godrick's a joke and Rykard isn't that easily found.
Godrick snagged his great rune before he fled the capital, so he had it.
As for the stars, we know the greater will used stars to exert a ton of influence over the lands between. One theory I have is that Miquella could make a similar effort after growing his haligtree in full
I like to think that the cleanrot knight we see in the beginning cutscene when we fight radahn is the very knight who carried melania to the haligtree
Haligtree soldiers for the last hundreds of years: "men. Be on the look out for our lord! He must still be here somewhere!"
I will say it Dose make Loretta’s decision to leave the royal family even more justify due to the fact that she herself is albinauric and it will explain why she never leaves her horse.😺
She is not an Albinauric. She bleeds red.
@@justindailey84 I just realized that the Loretta’s shield stated that it’s was rumor that she could’ve been albinauric. My bad.😺
@@topcat59 yeah, I actually purposely helped someone fight her after I read that to wee what kind of blood she bled lol. I was like "Omg if that's true then that means a BUNCH of other shit." Nope, she just a normal Sorc with are horse.
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I think it's worth remembering that not all of Malenia's actions might have been her choice, and not necessarily because her brain was rotting. Several item descriptions refer to a goddess of rot that clearly predates Malenia (Scorpion's Stinger, Blue Dancer Charm, Aeonian Butterflies, etc.) and Miquella's Needle was made to "ward away the meddling of outer gods." Clearly then, her rot isn't just a disease, it has something to do with the Goddess of Rot. Whether this goddess is trying to possess her or she is some sort of budding reincarnation of this goddess is anyone's guess, but the point is that the Goddess of Rot certainly has it's own agenda and is using Malenia to achieve it. And the fact that you find the needle which was supposed to keep Malenia free of this goddess broken in the swamp of Aeonia probably means that it was broken in the battle with Radahn and that's why the Rot was free to bloom.
Basically, Malenia didn't nuke Caelid. The Goddess of Rot did it through her because the battle left her vulnerable.
Also, if you look at the map, the Mogwyn palace is right under Caelid. It's possible she didn't have any beef with Radahn, she just figured she had to go through him to reach her brother.
I concur with this. Lore wise it just seems like it fits.
Of course the stars !!! i mean mogh kidnapped miquella - malenia figures out where mogh is( his hideout is right next to the undeground area where you get after the stars fall) - she needs the stars to fall to open the way - radahn is holding the stars - malenia fight radahn - its a stalemate - she returns to gather strenght but the tree doesnt work properly withou miquella and it takes too much power to hold back the rot in her, so she cant go back to kill radahn .
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I think Malenia has a bad rep in the community due to a few things:
Misogyny, saltiness (warranted), and her rivalry to Radhann, which is a very beloved character.
But once you see past that, she's an awesome character that cares a lot about her brother.
I agree. My personal opinion is that Radahn is the more honorable warrior between those two, but Malenia fought for a better cause. Both are equally cool and equally tragic characters.
I find it weird that the claim that "empyreans areborn from a single god" is spouted so often considering that the only example of this is miquella and melania, but they only make up half the empyreans we know. Ranni and and Marika are both empyreans and they weren't born from a single god.
Well ranni was the daughter of radagon who then became or already was marika but I don’t know who her parents are? Although perhaps the greater will chose her based on her other attributes.
@@TheQuailLord467 Ranni is the daughter of Rennala and Radagon, as is Rykard and Radahn. It's stated multiple times in game and Ranni even refers to Rennala as mother.
Her (and all empyreans) being chosen for other attributes seems by far the most likely explanation for what makes someone an empyrean
@@maxkorch yup. I’ve always understood it as Miquella and Malenia being Empyreans by default due to the unique circumstances of their birth (it also left them cursed, mind you), but there are other factors that make someone an empyrean. Perhaps it’s just a genetic thing and all of Marika and Radagon’s kids by other people had a 50/50 chance of inheriting it, with Ranni being the (in)lucky one to inherit her father’s special genes.
Yea, I thought you just had to be chosen by your two fingers to be an empyrean. I think miniature ranni says this, i don't remember.
probably means that radagon/marika gave birth to them spontaneously with no partner.
i think that in eldenring almost no character is really evil except for a few exceptions but not good either, everyone fights for what this person sees as right for themselves and is therefore also willing to shred others or even kill them to achieve this goal
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Millicents questline heavily implies that Malenia was controlled by an outer god. It's why Miquella wanted to make the needle which resists the outer gods will. Great video though, I enjoyed it
When I look at Malenia, I don’t see a Demi-goddess, I see a warrior. A warrior that is tired, having been suffering and seeks only to rid herself of her curse. She will not fall easily, she will not surrender, she will give you an honorable battle.
She’ll also kick your a$$ 100 times before she even gets to phase 2.
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Radahn's great rune's description mentions that it burns and holds back the scarlet rot from destroying it, maybe that's what Malenia was looking for as a potential cure to the rot?
Radahn wasn't infected with the rot prior to Malenia's campaign. The Rune burning would have been as a result of the Aeonia exploding.
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She unleashed the damn rot on Caelid, Radahn even when brain rotted was selfless and did his best to protect everyone from unholy star beasts trying to kill us all. While I can feel sorry for her lot in life, she CHOSE to unleash the rot when she was losing to Radahn. Who I feel because he was holding back the stars, didn't unleash his full power on her thus ending her then and there. Plus his freaking honor keeping from striking her down. Radahn will now and always be the MLG.
Malenia is also holding back Rot and refusing to Ascend into a Goddess, until her 3rd bloom when we kill her , so Radahn wasn't the only one holding back.
Radahn was also not a blind, triple amputee , and given they both started the fight already injured (as confirmed by the animator who worked on the cinematic) , them reaching a stalemate makes sense.
Keep in mind that Radahn supports the Golden Order that is very discriminative, while Malenia supports Miquella who wants to help the misbegottens and albinaurics. Radahn is the more honorable warrior, but Malenia fights for the better cause.
As I see it, Malenia CHOSE to unleash scarlet rot instead of retreating. So basically, before she retreated, she CHOSE to use chemical weapon on Caelid, if thats not villain, I dont know what is.
Truman did the same thing. Choose to use one devastating weapon to end a war...
@@darkhobo she was the aggressor though. She invaded Caelid to get Rahdan's rune and nuked caelid to avoid losing to him. Whatever genuine love she has for her brother is completely overshadowed by her disregard for any life that isn't Miquella.
@@Hi-Hi1990 she wasn't after his rune. She passed up, Rykard, Morgott, Renalla, Godrick just to get a single rune when she would have wanted them all? She wasn't there for the rune but something more serious.
It's likely she was opposing the golden order. Radahn being a fan boy of the order made him a huge issue especially since he was comtroll the stars. It's likely she wanted to end his reign. That or she thought he was the reason Miquella was gone. You just can't know for a fact why she did but we can logically reduce it wasn't for the rune.
Also, in a war there are no villains or heroes. Just multiple sides who think THEY are the righteous side. If she was there to end Radahn any and all who sided with him were their enemy.
we have to realize there are no villains in this story when it comes to the demigods
@@justindailey84 It makes perfect sense that she went after Radahn first, he was the strongest of the lot. If she could take him, the rest would cave easier. Had she, on the other hand, dissipated her strength on the lesser enemies first, Radahn would have had more time to get allies and get stronger, and Malenia would have had an even harder time defeating him.
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I'd be interested to fight the miquella mohg was creating. His cursed blood drove tarnished mad, I wonder if miquellas treatments were the same as used in creating bloody fingers.