the moon itself sending these messages actually makes a lot of sense as a Lovecraftian interpretation, some humongous eldritch creature hiding in plain sight that is starting to wake up/is being agitated? not to mention the stars being said to be eyes also fits in with the cosmic eldritch horror interpretation
There is an issue with the moon theory however as the moon is refered to as "his throne" in skywatching making it seam more like a residency for some powerfull being.
Plus it's fiction. I know Mirror Matt finds it kinda ridiculous, but you can literally just write about anything, make any story you want, all of that stuff.
@@ShadowKnuxVideos I think what makes it silly is Matpat posting the moon is 'jealous' of TV and waning attention, which doesn't seem to REALLY fit with the overall vibe
"Unthinking they move to cut his throat, only to make a thousand mouths" is essentially the Aliens telling L58 that they screwed up hard. L58 swapped to Digital to try and shut out the aliens from interfering, but in doing so, they allowed the aliens access to much more than just Local 58's station. I think this is the official announcement that our alien friends just went global. Not good.
"Unthinking they move to cut his throat" I think them switching to digital didn't have anything to do with silencing, but I think the aliens are upset regardless.
@@pastelguts6182 Well then what are they? In the "You are on the fastest route," you literally see some weird abomination standing in the headlights. If that's not an alien, then what is it?
Something I noticed at 44:53 - the web server LookBack is being hosted on is called Apogee. Apogee, in addition to being a pun on Apache, one of the most common web servers, is also the highest point in the moon's orbit.
"His throne" is a reference to the Skywatching video where it says the moon is his throne, so its definetly an entity that lives on the moon or the moon itself is a vessel.
Also at 47:18 it again mentions “our master’s silent house” and “an empty throne”, possibly implying that he left the moon either because he died or is heading for Earth.
probably an entity inside the moon it self. in the Skywatching video when the moon is big it looks like it broak oppen like an egg with a bird skelleton with no beak looking at the camera
Anyone else painfully yelling at the screen “IT SAYS HIS THRONE, MATTS. THRONE.”? (Edit: stop hating y’all 😭 it was a dumb comment… sorry I offended some ppl)
Oh rly? Bc in every vid I’ve seen of them it has Matpat being unnecessary mean or passive aggressive or snarky to unseen Matt. I just get weird vibes from matpats humor
MATT, the moon interpretation is very much a valid idea, there is actually an extremely popular SCP foundation story that is similar, except about the sun rather than the moon, called "When Day Breaks".
(SPOILERS BELOW YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED) Ok so Mat obviously missed the episode before which is called Skywatching and gives us an idea of how weird the moon really is. It’s basically a living thing of some kind and is what is referred to by “HIS THRONE” in the video. This is followed by a figure in the shadows making a prasing motion as the Moon gets bigger and the words “REJOICE” appear. I really hope May goes back and watches it as it’s definitely one of the best in the series.
And the idea that the government monitors and regulates radio signals also isn't new. It's the job of the FCC (not sure what FCG is or does). They don't monitor everything, it's on a case by case basis if bad actors are interrupting a reserved frequency.
@@KittenLover1522 am pretty sure they do not care about us. but if we find more information about them and find out there like humans. well then a battle of the ages is gonna happen
I'm a year late to comments. But radio waves does not indicate sentience, therefore, does not indicate a compacity to feel "jealous" Assuming that is the part in the video you are referring to?
"They move to cut his throat" I think "he" is the moon (an earlier video called the moon "his throne") and I think "cutting his throat" is changing the TVs to analog, which would cut off his ability to communicate.
they're changing TVs to digital actually, and i think "cutting his throat only to make a thousand mouths" refers to changing to digital as an attempt to shut off the moon or whatever is sending messages, but ending up giving it access to every station.
“The moon is evil” ideas is actually shared with the channel Nexpo who did in excellent job at analyzing the whole series and theorized that the moon was alive and it was evil
52:08 the line that says alt=“Admin” is commented out, remove the !- - from the far left end and the - - from the far right end to get it to appear while keeping the td (table data) start and end tags intact (look up HTML comments if you don’t know what I mean)
@@easthen If you go to the 2001 website, enter into the source code, changing the image it gets for the tabs (career, schedule, etc.) to "admin.gif" it gives a kind of admin tab.... I'm not sure how much that helps, but its kinda interesting.
ive always thought “cut his throat only to open a thousand mouths” was referring to the digital transfer. they cut off the analogs power, only to open it to the much more vast, much more dangerous digital world
I'm pretty sure the words at 11:26 says "His throne" i can see the T at the start, and the only word i can think that starts with a T and ends with one is Throne.
Can we appreciate that the ancient version of the website is made with html table like there where made at this time ? That another level of details in this ARG and it's beautiful
It definitely said “his throne”. That’s a direct reference to the Skywatching video, in which the moon is referred to as “his throne”. So yeah, once again drawing our attention to the moon
"Time, at once both warden and thief, laid low by gossamer loops of air and iron. Here is a greater, finer memory than that of men." This was also on that admin page but it was missed. Sounding like a complaint against home recordings with VHS tapes.
I can't wait for them to do another video. The "You are on the fastest possible route" still messes with me. I can't listen to the G.P.S. and hear that line, without feeling unsettled.
32:20 It said "research prospectus" on that image (a prospectus is "a formal legal document designed to provide information and full details about an investment offering for sale to the public")
I think that MatPat would benefit from reacting to these things with a live audience, since there's so much that we could help to clarify, offer other ideas, and remind him of certain details that he's forgotten. Also, maybe give these videos an uninterrupted watch through before going back to dissect them?
He usually does but he’s been so busy he hasn’t had the time to do live streams, but I agree I feel it would be better when it comes to these kinda videos
Nooooo, the chat is always so awful when it comes to anything mysterious and just completely ruin the fun by spamming. Honestly, chat is pretty awful all the time.
@@voidbreather7405 That's my question!! They know by now that their chat is a horrible place to be so I don't understand why they still haven't gotten a single mod or anything to mitigate the nonsense.
I'm a year late to seeing these comments. But for the live streams, mods, or members. They don't want to pay gate, getting mods would require hiring people to run the chat, or trusting community members, which, isn't the wisest for various reasons, hiring more people just wouldn't really be reasonable, nor is giving the job to the people who are already busy doing other things. While chat would spoil things, which would be a bummer, chat, is also not the kindest when it comes to "correcting" or "reminding" creates in general. Even game developers who reach out, can have some attitude to them, unfortunately. It's the annoying thing about live streaming, there's a lack of communication, there's still a delay, there's still no guarantee people are who they say they are, people try to communicate through different sources, even if you tell them to use a specific two like they did with chat and Twitter. Plus that would require setup, scheduling, people staying to run the stream, apposed to the on demand, that can be recorded at any time that fits. It just falls in the few hours that he has during the day, even if you try to keep it consistent, there are no garentees. Streaming, would be more of a hassle than what it could ever be worth, in this case.
I really wish for vids like these, Mat would watch it all the way through first and react the way it was meant to be watched and THEN go back and dissect and go frame by frame rather than stopping and starting the first time through
One useful thing to do could be looking at the creator's other works and how they might relate to or reference each other. For example, the skeleton character is named Cadavre and appears in the webcomic Broodhollow. One of the cities that Local58 broadcasts to is Ichor Falls which features heavily in the short story collection "Ichor Falls: A Visitor's Guide". The title of one of the stories is "The Hirsch Camera (1870)", and the term Hirsch Camera appears in the Local58 retrospective. Another potential place to look is "Shining One From Above The Clouds" which the Broodhollow wikia describes as "an excerpt from a book on mythology, sharing a creation story from the Moneton tribe about how a cruel being called the Shining One was dealt with."
The biggest puzzle to me: looking at the RUclips sidebar and trying to guess what Matt has been looking up/watching to invite that particular series of recommendations...
So this is a super old video, but I've been rewatching a lot of GT Live recently and for some reason I found myself wanting to call the number on the screen. It's an actual number you can call that gets you a message that sounds similar to a computer start up sound, heavy breathing, and whispering before it hangs up on you. Really neat to come back to after a couple years have gone by!
The phone number is for a hamlet in Putnam County, NY though. I immediately recognized the 845 area code as southern NY. A lot of my extended family lives around that area.
On the screen it states Mason County, the creator is from Mason County, WV so I aasume he's basing it there. Plus the W in WCLV makes the tv broadcast an easy coast one based on its call sign.
in the 20:02 section through 21:03 there are eyes in the background of many different sizes and proportions, one is even hidden and can be seen staring intensely if you raise the brightness. There also appears to be text at random intervals. I don’t know if anyone has noticed this also but I thought there might be something there
I’m pretty sure that whilst broadcasting on frequencies without a license is illegal, it’d be hard to enforce laws against people receiving broadcasts, especially minutes after the official broadcast has ended.
Yeah I noticed that too. They changed it from “illegal broadcasting” to “illegal receiving” which is highly suspicious since as you said it’s very hard to control something like that. Also very ominous that the government would need to issue a warning for this
@@elhopper3735 "illegal receiving" might mean the government has caught on to what's happening on Channel 58, and are making an effort to quarantine it and similar broadcasts. That might also be why it's trying to switch to digital: to make it harder for a outside force to hack into it. But as you know, they always find a way.
@@ECODKyleskymast yeah seems like the switching to digital was a futile effort. They hijacked the signal all the same. The quarantine idea is really good though. I would imagine the government, or really anybody, would want to keep these messages as contained as possible. Especially considering some of the stuff it says (The 3 F’s)
4:37 is the start of one of the greatest bits of all time. That made me laugh SO MUCH. I've been having a super off week health-wise and that really cheered me up. Thank you. 💖
I think it's important that the final card says it's illegal to receive transmissions, not sending them. Not sure how that would be detected and enforced though.
Maybe that was changed to form a loophole for the actual broadcasting. It also may be a way to deter people from reporting the transmission to authorities of some kind, as it may cause them to get into legal trouble (though I don’t know much about these types of legalities).
Day 6 of asking Mat to play Inscryption for at least one episode, it’s a card based game (which I know you LoVe) that has an ARG with some real theory potential
So to me "to cut his throat" can be seen as them moving to digital to avoid these hijacks, while "a thousand mouths" symbolizes all the tv's that the hijacker used to spread his message. Then them "speaking for him" would mean that the original hijacker can't post messages anymore so this new group is now posting this text instead
Haha it’s so funny how peoples eyes work differently, I was also able to see throne really easily but could hardly read the lines of text on the blue screen, while MatPat could read it pretty quickly.
For those messages that are overlaid on an image for just a frame, you can take a screenshot of that frame and the frame either before or after it(should look the same), paste one on top of the other on photoshop and change the blending mode of the top one to “difference” and it will only show the pixels that are different in both images. You can also use it for spot the difference games or magic eye images
@@monokumasussy9685 he has, but since then he’s actually went to the omega mart and he said that he filmed some footage there to make a follow-up theory on omega mart. that’s something we’ve all been waiting on for a while.
I feel like "off screen matt" needs to be included in the intro. Steph's barely in vids on the live channel these days. But MatPat harrasses other matt for commentary and banter every vid! Give other matt his due! lol
The thing I get from the Jan 2001 section of the website with the error, is that is when local 58 got "infected" or jacked by whatever entity that's been giving the weird messages during the broadcasts. It says that permissions were reset by the host after it tried to open an admin profile for the server, and then the file size was exceeded (potentially from something getting injected into the system that it wasn't prepared for?). So something got in, made itself host, and then tried to boot out the actual owners of the system. I don't have any website experience, so there might be more mundane reasons for the error messages that I don't know, but that's what it read to me at least.
44:54 _Apogee/1.2.2 (Win32)_ etc... Notice the use of the term "Apogee". That's a play on Apache and Apogee, which is the point at which the moon is furthest from the earth. Moon joke!
Honestly, I'd love another video of you guys just exploring more of this stuff. It's so fascinating and I would love to sit down and see the exploration of possibilities.
This almost, _almost_ sounds like Blackout club lore. Also MatPat should *really,* _really_ take a look at blackout club. It would be fun to see his reaction to… the things… also enable the extra spooky mode or whatnot was called
There's a really awesome Nintendo 3DS game with a similar plot to Matt's moon theory called Stella Glow, it's still one of my favorite games to date. ImageEpoch unfortunately went bankrupt a few years after releasing Stella Glow, but they were always one of my favorite Nintendo developers for the way they threw sudden unexpected twists to turn a good game into a great game. Good days 😊
It’s really cool to see Matt Pat’s creative process of making these theories - I just imagined him in front of a computer in a dark room, just living on coffee
Hey Matt! There’s a newer analog horror series that has been gaining popularity recently called the Mandela Catalogue! I think you would really like it and it has a lot to theorize about!
What if you did History Theory? You would analyze key points in history and fact check them to see if it is biased or "written by the victors" as a famous man once said.
I think that the color for GTlive should be blue. We already have 4 channels, and having 2 channels with green being their color theme isn’t pleasing. Plus, on the blanket representing GTlive is blue. Why am I telling you this? Well, I don’t think we need another addition to the theorist channels. 4 is enough for the team to handle.
Headcanon: Local58 is a news channel on earth that's documenting the approach of Earth's moon following the events of Dead Space 3 Awakened. The whole series is a set up for Dead Space 4! :O
honestly at least from local 58 and gemini home entertainment i get alot of eldritch/lovecraftian vibes especially that line about the thousand mouths and the stars being eyes waiting to open
the moon itself sending these messages actually makes a lot of sense as a Lovecraftian interpretation, some humongous eldritch creature hiding in plain sight that is starting to wake up/is being agitated? not to mention the stars being said to be eyes also fits in with the cosmic eldritch horror interpretation
I wonder if local58 is going to have another video drop this Thursday or Friday with the partial lunar eclipse (visible in the US).
There is an issue with the moon theory however as the moon is refered to as "his throne" in skywatching making it seam more like a residency for some powerfull being.
Plus it's fiction. I know Mirror Matt finds it kinda ridiculous, but you can literally just write about anything, make any story you want, all of that stuff.
@@ShadowKnuxVideos I think what makes it silly is Matpat posting the moon is 'jealous' of TV and waning attention, which doesn't seem to REALLY fit with the overall vibe
MTG fan: Emrakul is that you?
"There are no stars"
"Only eyes."
godDAMMIT that is so good
This just in: We have glimpsed Mirror Matt! He has a body!
Timestamp?
@@WrenchPanMan 4:39
Ikr crazy! 😂
Thanks for the news, I usually skip to the content
@@Monkotzoo same
"Unthinking they move to cut his throat, only to make a thousand mouths" is essentially the Aliens telling L58 that they screwed up hard. L58 swapped to Digital to try and shut out the aliens from interfering, but in doing so, they allowed the aliens access to much more than just Local 58's station.
I think this is the official announcement that our alien friends just went global. Not good.
"Unthinking they move to cut his throat" I think them switching to digital didn't have anything to do with silencing, but I think the aliens are upset regardless.
@@pleasepie1928 I assumed that just meant they did it to silence them without considering the potential consequences
It isn't aliens. The creator himself hates this theory
@@pastelguts6182 Well then what are they? In the "You are on the fastest route," you literally see some weird abomination standing in the headlights. If that's not an alien, then what is it?
@@sniclops15 the legion
I see Throne. The "R" is behind the 8 with the middle line of the "H" showing in the 5 and part of the T hanging on the left side of the 5
Same
Its "HIS THRONE"
The frame of "His throne" is from another video with the moon
Me too “HIS THRONE”
Mephisto confirmed! XD
Something I noticed at 44:53 - the web server LookBack is being hosted on is called Apogee. Apogee, in addition to being a pun on Apache, one of the most common web servers, is also the highest point in the moon's orbit.
Lol his explanation of how the series is so far “basically telling us to give up and die” 🤣🤣🤣
Levi energy
666 likes as well
The window might mean the moon light going in through your window
THE FIRST THING J THOUGHT OF WAS LEVIS "Give up on your dreams and die" 💀
I love how Mat's recommended bar is literally spooky ARG video, creepypasta, and then pokemon lofi it's literally MatPat in a nutshell.
can't forget the ad
"His throne" is a reference to the Skywatching video where it says the moon is his throne, so its definetly an entity that lives on the moon or the moon itself is a vessel.
Also at 47:18 it again mentions “our master’s silent house” and “an empty throne”, possibly implying that he left the moon either because he died or is heading for Earth.
probably an entity inside the moon it self. in the Skywatching video when the moon is big it looks like it broak oppen like an egg with a bird skelleton with no beak looking at the camera
I thought I was a genius, and found the word. Thanks for ruining it 🙏🏾🤣
“It’s getting hijacked again” Immediately gets an ad from google.
Anyone else painfully yelling at the screen “IT SAYS HIS THRONE, MATTS. THRONE.”?
(Edit: stop hating y’all 😭 it was a dumb comment… sorry I offended some ppl)
True but he is old so his vision is not the same
Yes
yuuup
Same
I was too i was yelling in my hear matt!!!! its says his throne
I just love Matt and Matt together LOL. Their interactions and chemistry are so funny, and it really makes the videos enjoyable.
The Matt Matt show
Matt squared
Who needs Steph when you have Matt 2?
The Matt and M. Matt show
Oh rly? Bc in every vid I’ve seen of them it has Matpat being unnecessary mean or passive aggressive or snarky to unseen Matt. I just get weird vibes from matpats humor
"I come in thru the window." NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. Why is analog horror so SCARY?
WELL JOKES ON YOU I LIVE IN A CONCRETE BOX WITH NO WAY IN OR OUT
Edit: It's in here with me
@@Amodh1257 OH MY GOD
Your eyes are the window to your soul... IT WILL CLIMB THROUGH OUR EYES AND DEVOUR OUR SOULS
@@krievv NO NO NO NO
@@krievv not if you lock your eyes 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
Local58: “Don’t look up.”
Me: “YOU CAN’T TELL ME WHAT TO DO” *looks up only to befall the same fate as all the others
Me: sees this happening.
Also me: lol genus ill just be patriotic then
MATT, the moon interpretation is very much a valid idea, there is actually an extremely popular SCP foundation story that is similar, except about the sun rather than the moon, called "When Day Breaks".
Good catch bro. I thought of the same thing.
Except the moon isnt turning people into blob monsters
(SPOILERS BELOW YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED)
Ok so Mat obviously missed the episode before which is called Skywatching and gives us an idea of how weird the moon really is. It’s basically a living thing of some kind and is what is referred to by “HIS THRONE” in the video. This is followed by a figure in the shadows making a prasing motion as the Moon gets bigger and the words “REJOICE” appear. I really hope May goes back and watches it as it’s definitely one of the best in the series.
The Don't hug me I'm scared tv show has actually finished filming and now where just waiting for it to air
That’s cool, where’d you hear that?
@@Rocky-ft2qi they made a post on instagram confirming that they've finished filming
Neat
woo!
wait wait wait. TV SHOW???? ONE OF THE RUclips SERIES THAT SCARRED THIS GENERATION IS GETTING A TV SHOW???? I can’t wait to watch it
I love how Matt is laughing but we literally get radiowaves from planets and stars
i am now VERY unsettled
And the idea that the government monitors and regulates radio signals also isn't new. It's the job of the FCC (not sure what FCG is or does). They don't monitor everything, it's on a case by case basis if bad actors are interrupting a reserved frequency.
@@KittenLover1522 am pretty sure they do not care about us. but if we find more information about them and find out there like humans. well then a battle of the ages is gonna happen
@Blackveil Vaal Hazak the ones from other planets only take minutes to hours
I'm a year late to comments.
But radio waves does not indicate sentience, therefore, does not indicate a compacity to feel "jealous"
Assuming that is the part in the video you are referring to?
MatPat, it says “his throne” probably referring to the moon king who goes through Mirrors (and windows).
Moon egg maybe?
It's also referencing the Local 58 video "Skywatching" which shows someone recording the moon and the text "His Throne" shows up in it
the "moon king" who goes hrough mirrors is the moon light it self. whatever the moonlight touches becomes it's domain
"It's a little silly" as he accurately gets the same idea just about every other theory Channel has gotten.
"I come in through the window"
Meanwhile I'm sitting like right next to a window. Why-
this is me and my window doesn't have blinds so it is just constantly open and its night and my anxiety is in fight or flight mode
Same :')
Me too - I’m sitting next to your window too. On the other side. Waiting.
@@rhondaelliott2558 tommorow, get some boards and nails, and a hammer
@@rhondaelliott2558 tonight....
You survive
"They move to cut his throat" I think "he" is the moon (an earlier video called the moon "his throne") and I think "cutting his throat" is changing the TVs to analog, which would cut off his ability to communicate.
they're changing TVs to digital actually, and i think "cutting his throat only to make a thousand mouths" refers to changing to digital as an attempt to shut off the moon or whatever is sending messages, but ending up giving it access to every station.
"FCG" might just me a fictionalization of "FCC"
Also: Research Prospectus
Thanks! I was searching for someone else who noted the prospectus part
FCG stands for Fresh Cut Grass
Possibly Federal Communications Group?
Fingernail Cutting Guru
I thought it was Federal Communication Guidelines
Good to see Mat is embracing the Lovecraftian Living Moon theory for Local 58.
Am I the only one that could read it perfectly as "his throne" for the first thing they couldn't find out
I did too. A callback.
Yes! I saw it too.
I didn't but then again I'm having a migraine
Yeah I didn't see the THR at all.
I don't think they've seen Skywarching. That's where His Throne is from.
“The moon is evil” ideas is actually shared with the channel Nexpo who did in excellent job at analyzing the whole series and theorized that the moon was alive and it was evil
P.S. also shared by Windagoon
52:08 the line that says alt=“Admin” is commented out, remove the !- - from the far left end and the - - from the far right end to get it to appear while keeping the td (table data) start and end tags intact (look up HTML comments if you don’t know what I mean)
Yes, but there's nothing in the href, which means it doesn't matter.
@@easthen If you go to the 2001 website, enter into the source code, changing the image it gets for the tabs (career, schedule, etc.) to "admin.gif" it gives a kind of admin tab.... I'm not sure how much that helps, but its kinda interesting.
You can't modify that file, I tried in the dev console and that file only lets you select stuff
ive always thought “cut his throat only to open a thousand mouths” was referring to the digital transfer. they cut off the analogs power, only to open it to the much more vast, much more dangerous digital world
I'm pretty sure the words at 11:26 says "His throne" i can see the T at the start, and the only word i can think that starts with a T and ends with one is Throne.
I we it as well
I thought the same
@@goobs5303 jeez dude he misspelled one word
Also that statement has significant relevance to previous videos
trombone. definitely
Can we appreciate that the ancient version of the website is made with html table like there where made at this time ? That another level of details in this ARG and it's beautiful
Does anyone else go frame-by-frame through the moments we get of seeing Matt's actual desktop just in case there's lore and/or cool games?
Who doesn't with their favorite RUclipsr
I do and I feel so gross every time but I’m just curious 😭😭
That's how I discovered they were gonna play Witch's House before they actually uploaded videos of it 😄
I did it for Mirror Mat
Lore to make our own Game Theory theory
14:57 I’m curious about the mining disaster. It feels like everything is important in this series and I can’t help but wonder why it’s there
Mystery Flesh Pit?
@@JJ-oe5tm the disaster of the flesh pit was a flood, nothing to do with mining
It definitely said “his throne”. That’s a direct reference to the Skywatching video, in which the moon is referred to as “his throne”. So yeah, once again drawing our attention to the moon
"Time, at once both warden and thief, laid low by gossamer loops of air and iron. Here is a greater, finer memory than that of men." This was also on that admin page but it was missed. Sounding like a complaint against home recordings with VHS tapes.
I can't wait for them to do another video.
The "You are on the fastest possible route" still messes with me.
I can't listen to the G.P.S. and hear that line, without feeling unsettled.
32:20 It said "research prospectus" on that image (a prospectus is "a formal legal document designed to provide information and full details about an investment offering for sale to the public")
PLAY THE RUSTY LAKE SERIES! Nobody’s really made any good theories and there’s a lot of dark lore in it, PLEASE DO IT!!!
You just got someone interested in rusty lakes. So good job
Boi YES. Confusing game about magic cubes and immortality needs a lore video.
i absolutely LOVE the rusty lake series, it’s sad that it doesn’t get much recognition
YES
Yes! I love the lore of it, and the dichotomy between The Crow and The Owl is always fascinating.
MattPatt: What if it’s just the moon?
Wendigoon: huzzah! A man of quality!
I think that MatPat would benefit from reacting to these things with a live audience, since there's so much that we could help to clarify, offer other ideas, and remind him of certain details that he's forgotten. Also, maybe give these videos an uninterrupted watch through before going back to dissect them?
He usually does but he’s been so busy he hasn’t had the time to do live streams, but I agree I feel it would be better when it comes to these kinda videos
Nooooo, the chat is always so awful when it comes to anything mysterious and just completely ruin the fun by spamming. Honestly, chat is pretty awful all the time.
@@FOHaab Then why not get some mods to keep an eye on the chat? Or make it so that only members can comment?
@@voidbreather7405 That's my question!! They know by now that their chat is a horrible place to be so I don't understand why they still haven't gotten a single mod or anything to mitigate the nonsense.
I'm a year late to seeing these comments.
But for the live streams, mods, or members.
They don't want to pay gate, getting mods would require hiring people to run the chat, or trusting community members, which, isn't the wisest for various reasons, hiring more people just wouldn't really be reasonable, nor is giving the job to the people who are already busy doing other things.
While chat would spoil things, which would be a bummer, chat, is also not the kindest when it comes to "correcting" or "reminding" creates in general.
Even game developers who reach out, can have some attitude to them, unfortunately.
It's the annoying thing about live streaming, there's a lack of communication, there's still a delay, there's still no guarantee people are who they say they are, people try to communicate through different sources, even if you tell them to use a specific two like they did with chat and Twitter.
Plus that would require setup, scheduling, people staying to run the stream, apposed to the on demand, that can be recorded at any time that fits.
It just falls in the few hours that he has during the day, even if you try to keep it consistent, there are no garentees.
Streaming, would be more of a hassle than what it could ever be worth, in this case.
Fun fact: The creator of the Local 58 channel is known for making creepypasta stories. One of his more well known stories is Candle Cove.
HE MADE CANDLE COVE?????? that explains alot
@@Finvoides there is another creepypastq made by him called "Curious Little Thing" which is set in Ichor Falls.
Creepypasta.
I really wish for vids like these, Mat would watch it all the way through first and react the way it was meant to be watched and THEN go back and dissect and go frame by frame rather than stopping and starting the first time through
One useful thing to do could be looking at the creator's other works and how they might relate to or reference each other. For example, the skeleton character is named Cadavre and appears in the webcomic Broodhollow. One of the cities that Local58 broadcasts to is Ichor Falls which features heavily in the short story collection "Ichor Falls: A Visitor's Guide". The title of one of the stories is "The Hirsch Camera (1870)", and the term Hirsch Camera appears in the Local58 retrospective. Another potential place to look is "Shining One From Above The Clouds" which the Broodhollow wikia describes as "an excerpt from a book on mythology, sharing a creation story from the Moneton tribe about how a cruel being called the Shining One was dealt with."
Plus Candle Cove which describes a TV broadcast only children could see that was so disturbing you wouldn't imagine a human making it.
I’m loving this editing Mat, thank you for spicing up the video. We appreciate it. I’m expecting some interactions from M&M today
The biggest puzzle to me: looking at the RUclips sidebar and trying to guess what Matt has been looking up/watching to invite that particular series of recommendations...
I saw that too! 😱
Lmao I remember in one video there was a google search pulled up for "loli definition" or something of the sort
Check out Cooking Companions. Definitely has some doki doki vibes. Would be a fun stream to have Stephanie on to do voices.
YO this needs more attention!!!
Backed that game, definitely agree with you.
Vouch!
Yeah! I'm currently watching Superhorrorbro playing it. Waiting for him to finish and make a theory of it!
Just finished superhorrorbros play though would love to see your play thought as well. Good game, big mysteries. Would also like to maybe see a theory
So this is a super old video, but I've been rewatching a lot of GT Live recently and for some reason I found myself wanting to call the number on the screen.
It's an actual number you can call that gets you a message that sounds similar to a computer start up sound, heavy breathing, and whispering before it hangs up on you.
Really neat to come back to after a couple years have gone by!
You should definitely check out the Mandela catalogue. Also all of Local58 events are suppose to be taking place in Mason county, West Virginia
The phone number is for a hamlet in Putnam County, NY though. I immediately recognized the 845 area code as southern NY. A lot of my extended family lives around that area.
@@sadieprinsen1980 this is honestly so cool, I live there!! I got excited as soon as I saw the area code
On the screen it states Mason County, the creator is from Mason County, WV so I aasume he's basing it there. Plus the W in WCLV makes the tv broadcast an easy coast one based on its call sign.
@@bear_trap107 The other series in L58's universe are also in Mason County
in the 20:02 section through 21:03 there are eyes in the background of many different sizes and proportions, one is even hidden and can be seen staring intensely if you raise the brightness. There also appears to be text at random intervals. I don’t know if anyone has noticed this also but I thought there might be something there
Omg mat hasnt mentioned skip is so long im glad he's doing ok
They will absolutely tell us if something happened to catpatt. He’s the channel mascot
Everyone: It says "His Throne" at 10:30, can't you tell??
Me, an intellectual: It says "Research Prospectus" at 32:21
I’m pretty sure that whilst broadcasting on frequencies without a license is illegal, it’d be hard to enforce laws against people receiving broadcasts, especially minutes after the official broadcast has ended.
Yeah I noticed that too. They changed it from “illegal broadcasting” to “illegal receiving” which is highly suspicious since as you said it’s very hard to control something like that. Also very ominous that the government would need to issue a warning for this
@@elhopper3735 "illegal receiving" might mean the government has caught on to what's happening on Channel 58, and are making an effort to quarantine it and similar broadcasts. That might also be why it's trying to switch to digital: to make it harder for a outside force to hack into it. But as you know, they always find a way.
@@ECODKyleskymast yeah seems like the switching to digital was a futile effort. They hijacked the signal all the same. The quarantine idea is really good though. I would imagine the government, or really anybody, would want to keep these messages as contained as possible. Especially considering some of the stuff it says (The 3 F’s)
@@ECODKyleskymast yea it did say his thorne it might have ment thay are being chased by the government or thay have contorl
@@elhopper3735 What we're watching was still in analog. It was from the perspective of someone who didn't set up their tv for digital.
4:37 is the start of one of the greatest bits of all time. That made me laugh SO MUCH. I've been having a super off week health-wise and that really cheered me up. Thank you. 💖
It’s back omg can’t wait for the next film theory Mat
😠
Yea, I love watching the Local 58 Film Theoriea
I think it's important that the final card says it's illegal to receive transmissions, not sending them. Not sure how that would be detected and enforced though.
Maybe that was changed to form a loophole for the actual broadcasting. It also may be a way to deter people from reporting the transmission to authorities of some kind, as it may cause them to get into legal trouble (though I don’t know much about these types of legalities).
Day 6 of asking Mat to play Inscryption for at least one episode, it’s a card based game (which I know you LoVe) that has an ARG with some real theory potential
That would be such a good game theory!!
I saw Jacksepticeye play it and I agree! I think it would make a great theory!
Love to see how he says leshy
I love that game when I see kubz scout and jacksepticeye plays it would love too see how matpat theirize about that game
YES
So to me "to cut his throat" can be seen as them moving to digital to avoid these hijacks, while "a thousand mouths" symbolizes all the tv's that the hijacker used to spread his message. Then them "speaking for him" would mean that the original hijacker can't post messages anymore so this new group is now posting this text instead
not me yelling at my laptop like-
HIS THRONE IT SAYS HIS THRONE
Haha it’s so funny how peoples eyes work differently, I was also able to see throne really easily but could hardly read the lines of text on the blue screen, while MatPat could read it pretty quickly.
I love how it's asking for his location when he typed FCG Goverment agency 26:34 time stamp
"HIS THRONE" is the Moon. It was in the other videos, and in the text of the newspaper you found.
"Matpat's a main character in a lovecraft story" is all that loops in my mind when he does this type of video.
The witty banter is literally the absolute best!😂
For those messages that are overlaid on an image for just a frame, you can take a screenshot of that frame and the frame either before or after it(should look the same), paste one on top of the other on photoshop and change the blending mode of the top one to “difference” and it will only show the pixels that are different in both images. You can also use it for spot the difference games or magic eye images
I just about choked when matpat pronounced Kofi as "Koe-fye"
I like the cold open.
Because it makes Mat feel like a philosopher.
That MirrorMat, just, doesn't seem to take too seriously.
OH LOCAL 58!! I ADORE THIS WHOLE SERIES!!
at 20:21 matt didn't seem to see an eye staring back at him. or maybe just an effect who knows :)
I love you matpat. You’ve actually added so much to my life. Thank you so much.
"They cut the thoughts I am" - Strange Broadcasting System
Yo MatPat, when’s that omega mart theory comin?
(Sing along employee voices) He has no idea what's in store for him!
I think he already did one on Food Theory!
@@monokumasussy9685 he has, but since then he’s actually went to the omega mart and he said that he filmed some footage there to make a follow-up theory on omega mart. that’s something we’ve all been waiting on for a while.
@@oh.veronvaohhhhh ok
At 19:43 I think the thoughts shaped in needles is referring to the antenna on the TV. They always reminded me of knitting needles.
I feel like "off screen matt" needs to be included in the intro. Steph's barely in vids on the live channel these days. But MatPat harrasses other matt for commentary and banter every vid! Give other matt his due! lol
but if "off screen matt" is "on screen" he would stop being "off screen matt"
@@juanfranciscovillarroelthu6876 good point
The thing I get from the Jan 2001 section of the website with the error, is that is when local 58 got "infected" or jacked by whatever entity that's been giving the weird messages during the broadcasts. It says that permissions were reset by the host after it tried to open an admin profile for the server, and then the file size was exceeded (potentially from something getting injected into the system that it wasn't prepared for?). So something got in, made itself host, and then tried to boot out the actual owners of the system.
I don't have any website experience, so there might be more mundane reasons for the error messages that I don't know, but that's what it read to me at least.
MATT: man thats a tricky one the theorists: finds it out in a couple seconds and helps
44:54 _Apogee/1.2.2 (Win32)_ etc... Notice the use of the term "Apogee". That's a play on Apache and Apogee, which is the point at which the moon is furthest from the earth. Moon joke!
Each betrayal begins with trust, and I trusted the Moon THE MOST. D:
13:37 I’m pretty sure it say “His throne” because I saw an outline of T.
And H
Finally. Big horror fan. Love Halloween month on GT(not)Live and GT/FT. Been waiting for you all to cover this.
13:44 says “His throne” rather clearly. Glad to see others were able to see it too!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MATPAT!!
Honestly, I'd love another video of you guys just exploring more of this stuff. It's so fascinating and I would love to sit down and see the exploration of possibilities.
This almost, _almost_ sounds like Blackout club lore.
Also MatPat should *really,* _really_ take a look at blackout club. It would be fun to see his reaction to… the things… also enable the extra spooky mode or whatnot was called
I absolutely love these theory crafting videos, they're so interesting & fun !
it's cool getting to theorize along with each other.
everyday we get closer to full mirror matt appearance
I love seeing MatPat figure something out. When he’s like “OHHHH- OHH-“ IT MAKES ME SO HAPPY-
That intro lmao...this is what I love listening to while I am at work. 😂
27:06 FCG isn't a real organisation but is based of the US broadcast agency FCC but idk what either stand for
FCC is Federal Communications Commission and FCG is Federal Communications Guild.
Ah
There's a really awesome Nintendo 3DS game with a similar plot to Matt's moon theory called Stella Glow, it's still one of my favorite games to date. ImageEpoch unfortunately went bankrupt a few years after releasing Stella Glow, but they were always one of my favorite Nintendo developers for the way they threw sudden unexpected twists to turn a good game into a great game. Good days 😊
It’s really cool to see Matt Pat’s creative process of making these theories - I just imagined him in front of a computer in a dark room, just living on coffee
Hey Matt! There’s a newer analog horror series that has been gaining popularity recently called the Mandela Catalogue! I think you would really like it and it has a lot to theorize about!
I actually love the idea of the moon being sentient and being jealous. It sounds really cool
What if you did History Theory? You would analyze key points in history and fact check them to see if it is biased or "written by the victors" as a famous man once said.
That’s more a job for historians. The sheer amount of effort it would take would be so great that there’d be about 1 video every year
I think that the color for GTlive should be blue. We already have 4 channels, and having 2 channels with green being their color theme isn’t pleasing. Plus, on the blanket representing GTlive is blue. Why am I telling you this? Well, I don’t think we need another addition to the theorist channels. 4 is enough for the team to handle.
The phone number is legit and still works, also is creepy
Why have we just never met other matt... he's just a faceless being that we just accept exists
Headcanon: Local58 is a news channel on earth that's documenting the approach of Earth's moon following the events of Dead Space 3 Awakened. The whole series is a set up for Dead Space 4! :O
4:39 wait, Mirror Mat has a body? I thought he was just a disembodied voice or a cryptid 😳
honestly at least from local 58 and gemini home entertainment i get alot of eldritch/lovecraftian vibes especially that line about the thousand mouths and the stars being eyes waiting to open
Happy Birthday MatPat!!
17:23 to 18:00 So it's all a Illusion? That’s mind blowing but also gives me a existential crisis.
Yoooo, another amazing GTLive video :D
On the website it probably said research prospects (that's what it looked like to me and my friends at least)