Man these videos feed my soul. Whenever I feel bad for what happened to me or the deep regret of being involved with this cult, these videos help ground me. It makes me feel less alone and it's refreshing to hear someone confirm every doubt I had.
@Ballykeith Real🙌🏿 I'm very thankful for it, it's helped me heal tremendously. I thought I was going crazy because I was treated that way in this cult. I didn't get true clarity until I left.
Lloyd, I cannot thank you enough for opening my eyes to what an awful cult this is! Also, I love the energy and humour with which you elegantly debunk all their dangerous propaganda!
I was in the Org between 1974 and 1988. How they sit through this awful stuff amazes me - it’s so nauseating. The poor children who are being told that their non JW relatives (who they probably love) and their best friend at School maybe, who’s not a Witness, these are all going to be slaughtered by Jehovah ‘any day soon’. It must be the worst religious scam ever perpetrated in the 20th and 21st century. Thank you Lloyd for your hard work in exposing the evil nonsense.
I had a nervous breakdown over this teaching 💔 all my loved ones where going to die all the responsibility was put on me to “ teach” them…. I never saw it as good news I saw it as bringing 2nd death ☠️
They probably do not have strong enough relationships with those relatives to really think much of it. Once you've been indoctrinated since birth about who is evil, even family, you look down on them even as a child.
Thank you for your work. It helps me a lot only by watching. It's been so many years and even though I was raised in jw and never baptised it sits so deep- the mental blackness. I remind myself everyday to think clearly and not what they say.
Wow I now on the other side listened to this garbage since 10yrs old. Fully indrocrinated bc I didn't leave till 50yrs old. Thank goodness our son (husband still fully indrocrinsted) raised questions about his disbelief in a God (no joke at 4yrs old). U just plod along n do your best to try n raise them to be a lover of jah n "his organisation". Now just grateful to see him happy n raising his 2 children n doing a wonderful job. I can't change the past but deep down I feel we traumatized him subjecting him to something he never wanted. Even though his wife is big on birthdays n christmas n he gives this to his children, his wife told me recently they have no meaning to him as he never was given this as a child. We spoilt him rotten with presents all yr round thinking we were doing a good job; but we were not. I never new about the Australian royal comm till yrs later. My son sent it to us. We both watched it, but only I woke up. I allowed a baby, toddler, young impressionable boy n then teenager to sit through what was presented here. Armaggedon, death, destruction n EVEN I AS AN ADULT FOUND TALKS AT THE KH ABOUT THE BIRDS OF THE HEAVEN EATING THE FLESHLY PARTS OF THE BODIES WHO WERE DESTROYED. This should be R rated or at least MA. No child should be subjected to this HORROR n FEAR. The last time I heard a bro talk about these birds of the heaven .......I as an adult with a son not babtized, not a jw.....all I could see was this for him n his 2 innocent children n it made me think of my nice next door neighbour n others I knew. It just didn't make sense. I came home n cried, depressed n traumatized for a good week. I am a literal person. The org taught me to focus on living in a paradise n playing with lions, so I did. So these birds, I pictured them doing their job. But it definately took on a new meaning when it became personal n included our son n grandchildren n every sweet child I know. The speaker gets an outline n just reads it. He was pleased that this destruction was going to take place basically so he can get to live for eternity. Do all the wicked men in this org who have covered up csa, some jailed, some repentant n allowed back in n allowed to be on the platform (while the victim, never believed anyway, may still be in the audience bc they r a child n won't leave just yet till they get older n realize they need to go to the police. Which side does God place them on......paradise or birds of the heaven eating the fleshly parts of their dead bodies. N the music n whatever that accompanied this nonsense was truly pathetic. I wasn't sure at LZloyd was playing a joke n added it in or it was real. To my disgust it was real.
@@delphinawhiles6235 wow, and your husband still in it! I wish you the very best! I feel the same about birthdays and Christmas. I never celebrated it, so why now that I’m old!? I enjoy the Christmas season and decorations and lights. Usually I watch a nice Christmas movie around that time. Oh boy, the things we went through! I was 50 years in it!
Oh do Witnesses ever love discipline... And to say it is Satan that draws us away is ridiculous. I actually believe that all my prayers to God to help me seek truth and equip me with courage to leave is precisely what enabled me to.
The damage done to children molested in the org and disfellowshipped and discarded is ongoing. My daughter was molested at 11 by a popular elder. We left because he kept coming up to us at the local kh to prove his innocence, even though the elders knew he ‘had a problem. ‘ The people who supported him gave a lot of money to the kh. They told my other daughters that my molested daughter no longer had Jehovahs spirit. She tried to commit suicide and no one said anything to us out of loyalty to the removed elder. They let him run mikes and sell literature. They let him around their children. She passed away last month from lung cancer. The damage done to children in the org follows them their whole life. Jesus said something interesting about that at Mark 9:42, a scripture they don’t use much in the ‘truth.’
I am so sorry for your loss. Such a terribly sad story and terribly unjust. Proving just how dangerous this religion is. That’s why Activism is so important and stories like yours need to be shouted from the rooftops as a warning to stay far, far away from this cult.
@user-rj4xl5bl2s, I'm sorry for your loss, that your daughter's abuse was covered up and ignored, and for how your family was treated by your congregation's Body of Elders. I'm fairly certain that others have gone through very similar situations in the Witness faith. Stories like yours are important to know. This is why ex-JW activism has a place in the world. These stories need attention. Something has to be done at an institutional level within the JW Organization. Serious reform is needed. Too many lives have been damaged by the Watch Tower Society's negligence.
I have known of families that have imploded BECAUSE of the fathers insistence that everyone do the meetings, family worship ( so called) and of course the "compulsory" field service. Often in such cases, after years of living in such a controlling family, the kids ( as older teenagers) go way off the rails to the other extreme. Its a fact.
I love the last video. My mother has the same pictures of when she was 6 years old and wearing the placard boards on the streets of Chicago. Being told that the new system was coming any second... She is now 84 and living in an assisted living home. And yes, still saying the new system is coming any day?? So sad...
@timwarner4450, I suppose at her age she probably needs that comfort of belief in an afterlife, but what's sad is that she's been sold on the idea that the New World would be here "very soon" from the time she was born, or at least very young, and now she's an old woman. Imagine how hard it must be when you're told you've lost your eternal salvation when you've unapologetically broken a rule over something that you don't think should be seen as wrong, that can also be very devastating to a person's psyche.
I always hated how my parents given me corporal punishment as a child. I even confronted them about it when I became an adult. Both of them, very devout religious folk, firmly stated that it was not child abuse. I disagreed. I always felt deep down that it was just a cheap and lazy resolution to discipline your children, then to actually think cerebrally of any non-violent means.
I was spanked too. Not often, but it happened. He stopped after the time he spanked outside the KH, bent over the hood of the car, while the whole congregation was walking past us (I had not been sitting quiet during the meeting). And as he was doing it, I rebelled again, I was wheezing between clenched teeth, «yeah, you just do it, strike harder». After that he stopped. I was 11. This was the early 80s. And though they may have stopped beating their kids now, the Watchtower has nothing to be proud of - because it was just because the rest of society moved away from corporal punishment that the JWs eventually did. None of my friends of school got spankings, so «the world» allready had, in the early 80s.
My dad was abusive and always furious, right in front of other people or within ear shot, he would start spanking me if I was crying or made any noise whatsoever. And continue spanking me until I could make myself stop crying, which was basically holding my breath and covering my mouth, then "the real spanking" would come which had to be as hard as he could so it was different. That was in the '90s. No one would bat an eye to that either.
@@lorenisevil … yeah, that sounds worse than what I got. But in hindsight, I think that what hurt me more than the spanking would be mom or my grandma quoting Proverbs: «He who spares the rod hates his son». I think it’s my least favorite Bible verse, ha ha
As a non JW child I used to get a spanking (using a wide leather belt that had some studs on 2 rows on it) for not going to sleep. There was a ticking clock and it sounded like whispering to me as a 5 or 6 year old. I was told to shut up and stop being stupid. I remember saying I hate you to my father as he beat me and really feeling it. I wasn’t beaten by the time I was 11 or so as it no longer bothered me and I’d just laugh.
Humiliating & bullying children with psychological & emotional abuse is just as, if not more damaging. From my experience, this organisation is rife with abuses of all types.
When I asked my JW sister about your point...'how will those in strict countries hear the good news', her answer was Jehovah will read their hearts.....( whats the point then in being an obedient JW) lol.....good point Lloyd re: population of world now and back in 1914. More people to be destroyed now than in 1914 should the end have come back then....it's all SO crazy!
My friend told me the same thing. I told her every church can say that. And so their preaching work is no proof that they are the only true religion. She agreed but didnt like it.
Yes, the informal belief of the witnesses we use to be was that Jehovah reads hearts and he will know the all the good hearts in the last part of the tribulation. It’s because this didn’t make sense to all of us when it comes to established JW behavior to survive. The people who just found out what was happening would have to die at the end was cognitive dissonance to people like us.
You had me laughing, Lloyd, with the ringtone and Jesus is a Jedi. But seriously, the little parts that we watched compared to what you had to sit through were still very triggering. Thanks for doing this and putting it out there.
I have been through many of these events with you, Lloyd, and always appreciate how you highlight the inherent foolishness of what these people present as something others should live their lives by. Thank you and I look forward to future conventions, well, not really, if you know what I mean.
Hi Lloyd ❤ happy to see you again...again, thank you for looking at this junk instead of myself trying to suffer thru it...oh, and you are looking very nice, love the hair... My mom loved torturing me as a child, jehovah and her were beating the devil out of me "in love"...usually because i answered a question at the meeting not to her standard.. But , anyways...glad to see you and your lovely voice..❤
I do agree with you about the 'mistakes' made in the past as to when the end will come and that they should be fully open about those 'mistakes' .... I personally cannot get my head around their 'new' teaching around the teaching of 'this generation' which lets face it, is absolutely ridiculous.
7:43 I've only heard of people not having children, like several of my married cousins, because they are convinced the end is so close and they do not want to go through the tribulation while pregnant or with small children. So they're going to wait for the paradise to have perfect babies because there will no longer be disabilities or birth defects.
I need to go back and watch some of Lloyds old videos because I am sure he touches on the subject of if there are even going to be marriages in the New World and of course if your not mailed, no sex,no kids.
Thanks Lloyd. In the 90s as a teenager I would actively tell householders that Armageddon had to come by 2000! I had no idea that in the history of Jehovah’s Witnesses they pointed to at least ten (10) dates for the arrival of the end of system. Most members would never research that information
Comb-over man can't help putting his foot in it 🦶🏼 "Picture this ... You can't picture it". "Armageddon will be a day that we will never forget ... " - great, now everyone's got PTSD for eternity" 🫣 Keep it coming 😂
Josiah Nieman and a David Schafer associated with my old congregation. Woof. I can't imagine being that locked in anymore. I have always enjoyed your videos Lloyd, they have helped a lot. Thank you for your persistence and hard work.
I also think that the whole "think critically" rhetoric is an attempt to get ahead of the new-age wave of ex-jw's who have left and expressed that their critical thinking skills were diminished in the organization. A great deal of the ex-jw movement now is also people like myself, who were likely raised at a time where questioning the organization was heavily heavily frowned upon - which added fuel to the fire on the outside when it came to criticizing them. It's like a mad dash to plant these thoughts as original food from the governing body to kind of, counteract the criticisms that jw's are going to come across in the world. (Of which there is now so much more of, and so many resources and content. I have found a lot of their content recently has been playing catch up to fight against this.)
Side note: I was raised during a time where anything LGBTQ+ was obviously unacceptable but the propaganda was more... vague. Seeing that obvious "no, go attack her for being bisexual because God commands it" would have crushed me as a child. I feel for every person that's still stuck there, closeted. I promise it's better on the other side.
@@valkyrie__3630, The young man in that drama scene is basically encouraged to bully his bisexual crush at school because of her sexuality, simply because his religion demands that he do so, and because she isn't a Jehovah's Witness. There's no way to do that without coming across as a bigot and a jerk. The Society is more explicit in its homophobic and transphobic attitudes, and all they're going to accomplish is just pushing younger people away from the faith. They're basically saying to their closeted gay, bi and trans members, "LGBT people have no place in our Church, and we don't want them amongst our flock anyway." They throw their own LGBT members, whom they know exist in the Organization, under the bus without shame or reservation. I'm not LGBT myself, but remind me, why should I want to go back to being a JW again?
Oh man that was a hard watch hahah! Especially that drama from the two boys…. That propaganda is so gross. And it further shows that everything you do, has to be connected to some sort of worship. Can’t just had a night dinner and watch a movie together. It has to be propaganda from the organization…… it’s so Culty
11.19 Theres NO comparison. Joseph didn't attend (what used to be...) 5 meetings over 3 days a week or spend minimum of 10 hours a month in ministry and hours of personal and family study of literature printed by men.
I still have that hilarious video scene in my mind when Joseph was sitting at BBQ together with Armageddon survivors, and they were asking many silly questions. Then the speaker, after that video, encouraged everyone to think about what question he will ask Joseph when he will be one day with our BBQ gathering. I started calculating. Just the 8 Million survivors divided by roundabout 20 participants at that BBQ scene, divided by 52 (weeks per year, so every weekend Joseph joins a new group with their silly questions). I ended up by over 7692 years. I'm quite sure, after 1000 years of the new world Satan will be released, Joseph will stand in FRONT of the line joining him.
@@siggimad1219, If Joseph even existed, which I have my doubts, this scenario is unlikely to play out in the future unless there's an afterlife, which no one can know for certain. How do they know he'd even like barbequed food?
I remember struggling with work and these older elders telling me how i need to simplify, sacrifice, and put this religion first in my life. It's funny how most of those men telling me to sacrifice my life were sitting on nice retirements, health insurance, travelling. Now I'm in my 50s with no retirement in sight... ever. Just like Jesus says " they tie up burdens on the people they are unwilling to budge with their little finger". They are truly blind guides, false prophets and this organization is a whitewashed grave
I went on Sunday during the break (I had to go to a convention since 2014, but always on Sunday's break lol) to make my grandma happy (to make her feel a relief that I might find a man there) & also see many of the relatives I rarely see & also old friends. Had a nice time~ Truly nothing's changed, as always the end is near but of course they, jws, never predict or something, no. After all of these years hearing them talk about the 1914 it just hits different. It's amazing how they keep going with this shiet ^v^ We stayed after the break until the end of the convention so we can take my grandparents home & believe me, have you ever slept with your eyes open? Well, happened to me. And then I asked my grandma why do they play so many videos instead of having real life talks & she told me "So you won't fall asleep" which is true. I wanted to have a great laugh at the epic new song & the trailer for next year's movie HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE CRINGE!!! I felt embarrassed! Oh, it was really crazy how the poor speaker had to always look straight into the cameras while talking. He pointed it out that he wants to look at the audience while talking (which feels natural) but he said he cannot as he's been told to look strictly into the hq cameras. Some men were embracing the facial hair thing which I personally don't like as they are not much different from the average greek guy ^~^" Anyway, the conclusion is that I'm going to some coffee outings to meet some people my age, who knows? (um, yeah, to just meet new people for relationship, not biblical study hahaha) They might just be mentally out. If they mention me anything about jw stuff, I'll let them know my stance. I respect that makes them feel happy (as I do for my relatives & close family friends, who also respect me) & so they have to respect my own beliefs as well. Sorry, just all of my personal stuff out but yeah, somebody could relate.
A lot of now childless couples were encouraged to wait until the "new system" to have children and to go where the need is great to spend the rest of the short time we have in this old system in the preaching work.
I haven't been to a convention in a few years, but this blows my mind. Why are they talking like the audience is a child? Both in the simple words they use and their tone. This is wild.
"Every time i had a question, i got answers" ok..... When will Elders stop with the harassing phone calls / text messages (and getting others to help), stop visiting members at their places of employment, just to sum it up, leave people alone when they decide to stop attending meetings especially if they complain about "Norway upholds their UNCONDITIONAL ruling" (as if the JW organization doesn't violation the human rights of their members).
I got answers once. I asked a body of elders to help me understand how to "hate what is bad", because I was tired of being in constant reprimand for 30 years. They said, "sometimes you can't, you just have to not to that thing that you actually love." At 35 years old, that was a final straw for me. I quit a year later.
As an auld git I remember that around 1975 it was seen as "spiritually weak" to have children. Those who did must have been lacking faith that we were in the "last days" and that "shortly" the tribulation would begin. In fact those having children (even getting married was frowned upon... I mean the enemy could persecute you by using your new partner as bait to give up... at least that's what was being taught from the platform) were advised against marriage. Yup nearly 50 years ago that is what I was taught along with all other Witnesses. The more things change the more they stay the same as my favourite band once sang! Or they do in this cult.
In the following dramatization note how Lloyd tells it like it is, enjoy! And the father worried about being away for a couple weeks at a time, what are they saying about single parents?
The conversation about the two teens using slang like "I ghosted her" cracked me up. I thought JWs were not supposed to adopt 'wordly' slang, I wasn't certainly allowed when I was a teen. Maybe it's their way to appeal to modern kids...but to keep on the topic it was cringe. 😂
@MJBsays, I thought that the use of the word "ghosted" would be condemned because of Jehovah's Witnesses' belief that the soul does not live apart from the body after one's mortal death. That word could describe fellow apostates who are fading from the Organization, their trying to "ghost" themselves. The JWs aren't afraid of no ghosts, but they're sure scared of us apostates. I'd rather be scared of a ghost if it is ever demonstrated through convincing evidence that they exist.
@@B.W-k8k good point, I didn't even think of the actual ghost/soul link. I wasn't even allowed to watch Ghostbusters as a kid or anything that remotely had ghosts for the very reasons you indicated, and here they are using it in their propaganda material. Ohhhh the hypocrisy of this cult is unmatched.
I think it's sad in that drama where the JW teenage boy is pressured into defending the Watch Tower Society's biphobia to a non-JW schoolmate who has a crush on him. There's no way to not come across like a bigot when attempting to defend prejudice, even if you have a smile on your face and defend such discriminatory views in the gentlest tone; it's still bigotry. When the viewer hears about the destruction of "false religion" at Armageddon, we see a picture of a Christian clergymen married a gay couple in a Christian church. How is it wrong for a church to celebrate the love of an informed consenting adult who love each other, care for one another, are not related and who probably aren't cheating on each other--even if that couple is comprised of two men or two women? Who is being sincerely harmed by such an action? Then they show an image of Hindu deities in statue form. What is wrong with portraying the divine through physical imagery? What really is idolatry, and who gets to set the standard for what is or is not "idolatry" when it comes to religious practice? If depicting the divine in physical form is idolatry, if that's the case, then should the Watch Tower Society really be drawing pictures of angels, the resurrected Jesus in angel form sitting on a throne in Heaven, the Bible's human prophets or portray divine acts such as healing the sick or raising the dead back to life in their denominational literature.
Satan wants us to focus on the pain, and Jehovah wants us to ignore all the pain. Not just the pain this allegedly all-loving being allows to happen, but the pain that this allegedly all-loving being has directly caused or commanded to happen.
you did a good job lloyd. a lot of JW i know , even pimi, said to me that this was the mmost boring comvention ever.. normall they say best ever, but this time people struggled to get through it. repeating of everything,. it gives hope!
Yep. Nothing 'proves your love and fitness to head a household" more than becoming destitute. The wife and kids will LOVE that... 🤦 Also what's with the lowkey stereotyping/racist musical interludes every time they show an Indian or Latin American actor. Panda pointed it out in one of his vids, and now that I've seen it I can't unsee it. It happens in almost every dramatisation 😬
I was sexually abused and physically assaulted when I was 9-11… when I eventually got the courage I spoke up . I was called a liar and not to be so silly. “That would never happen within this organisation “ wtf my life is in pieces right now I’m 42 this year and unable to get over this, I’ve been told I’m too mentally defunct for therapy as I cannot even get through the grounding work needed to proceed. I’m too ill to be treated. Thanks nhs
@justaboutmanaginguk5002, I'm truly sorry about the difficulties that you have faced, and I really hope that things will improve for you in the future and that you will receive the help you need in order to be able to better deal with your past experiences.
The great evening meal of God... Crows' sounds eating the flesh of both small and big... how charming. This is the crap that made me leave as a teenager even though I was so indoctrinated I still though it could be true... who wants to worship an evil god? Anyone else noticed the lady covering up her head to conduct family worship with her male son?
@cosmiclove2795, The sound of the crows gnawing on human flesh would be perfect to use for a spooky audio recording at Halloween time. Not so cool in that this audio drama might scare little kids sitting in the audience at a JW Convention.
One area I do of course agree with you on is their past reputation that has come to light regarding how they have dealt with children who have been abused. It is sickening for sure
'It starts with one All I know It's so unreal Watch you go I tried so hard and got so far But in the end, it doesn't even matter I had to fall to lose it all But in the end, it doesn't even matter One thing, I don't know why It doesn't even matter how hard you try Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme To remind myself of a time when I tried so hard In spite of the way you were mockin' me Actin' like I was part of your property Remembering all the times you fought with me I'm surprised it got so far Things aren't the way they were before You wouldn't even recognize me anymore."
Newly Resurrected One: Hey, happy birthday! You're a billion years old today. I bought you a present 🎁 Survivor from the Old System: Sorry, I can't accept presents ✋🏼 NRO: I baked you a cake! 🎂 SOS: Sorry, I can't eat birthday cake ✋🏼 NRO: How about a drink then? 🥂 SOS: Sorry, I can't have a birthday drink ✋🏼 NRO: K, you have a great day! 🥺 SOS: 😢
Nice how they assume Joseph didn’t sacrifice time with the family. Also - pre child labor laws. It’s not quality family time to make your kids do adult work with you. Not a win for Joey.
You can only cry ‘Wolf’ for so long. But this organisation has been doing just that for a hundred years years os so and this convention carries on that tradition. Will modern day audiences swallow that? The same old mini dramas. The same Biblical regencies The same dreary talks? Obviously a percentage give up and leave but the majority keep going. Fear,or rather the instillation of fear is a powerful tool
The scene in Luke 2, where twelve-year-old Jesus ends up among the religious teachers in Jerusalem, seems to always have a stimulating effect on the pious imagination. Sometimes, in eager retellings, we will be assured that pre-pubertal Jesus amazed the priests and scribes with his astounding insight on the scriptures. And in this Jehovah's Witness version, we are apparently to take away that he at least subtly condemned the "false teachings" of the religious elders, because unlike them he was not "confused." All Luke 2:46 really says is that he sat there listening and asking questions. Period. Nothing about him appearing like some kind of child prodigy in religious matters. Nothing about priests and elders marvelling about his supposed insight. And most certainly nothing about him calling out anyone on any "false teachings," which in the context would surely make him appear like an arrogant brat who thought he knew everything better than the religious elders. It's all elaboration, by the same people who may talk about how important it is not to add to God's word. (Say, where is the verse that says Joseph was particularly hard-working?)
Being a Billion years old would be a special kind of Hell! Imagine having seen everything, been everywhere, eaten every flavour of food, drunk every kind of drink, done everything, know everybody. There's nothing new at all. What kind of living Hell is that?
You are very limited in your thinking if you think that the Almighty can't make so much more available to those who live forever. There are millions of planets our there - a whole universe to explore. Who's to say that people will be restricted to life on earth forever? That's my opinion. On that basis, life in heaven would get boring. But who's to say how huge the heavens are and what those who get there will have to do ......
'Propaganda is more effective when people don't think critically??'. That was the quote from baldy. But how can baldy ,with a straight face possibly not realise propaganda is the key tool his own cult uses. Every week.
@victoriaroberts7034, Oh, the "Praise Jaaaaahhhhhhh!" thing....it sounds like a monastic choir, but at least it's better than that sappy Pop music style they've been using in JW BROADCASTING videos.
Note at 44:29 the prevalence of beards on the sword and bow& arrow wielding angels... can I suggest thats the reason for the reversal of the 60 yr old beard ban- the JW leadership wanted to associate themselves with the bearded heavenly slayers and what better way to do that but to not only to now allow beards but actively encourage it.
Is Watchtower in subjection to the Superior Authorities? Romans 13:1: Let every person be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. 2 Therefore, whoever opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will bring judgment against themselves. Titus 3:1: Continue reminding them to be in subjection and to be obedient to governments and authorities, to be ready for every good work,
21:18 no more! I aint no imitating no Jesus, no Michael Jackson, no Elvis no Taylor Swift. No, I am not imitating someone else anymore! Id rather be myself!
@Queenolgi1, I love your quote. I feel the same way. I don't want to imitate anyone, not Jesus, not Buddha, not Muhammed, not Michael Jackson, not the Queen of Sheba, not Joan of Arc, not Marie Antoinette, not Queen Cleopatra of Egypt etc. I want to be my own person. I want to be the best version of me, not the best version of someone else.
"Always question what you believe". That's good advice on the surface, but in this case, this means don't question the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses' teachings. It's not about the use of skepticism or critical thinking in general.
"I scourge you because I love you." ~ words of an abuser P.S. I'm really tired of people (not just JWs) thinking bisexual folks go around with anyone and everyone. We don't. No more than some straight people do.
@amb163, I can imagine how you must feel. The Witnesses don't see bisexuals or any member of the LGBT community as anything other than "perverted sexual deviants "who either don't know that the Bible condemns their sexuality, or they do know but just willfully want to upset God". They view them as only sexual beings, not as flesh-and-blood people.
I wonder if any JW caught the message in Revelation 19:1 - "After this I heard what seemed to be a loud voice of a GREAT CROWD IN HEAVEN..." I have never heard Revelation 19 verse 1 read in a meeting, convention, etc.
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Man these videos feed my soul. Whenever I feel bad for what happened to me or the deep regret of being involved with this cult, these videos help ground me. It makes me feel less alone and it's refreshing to hear someone confirm every doubt I had.
@@BabyDoll-xx9rk Lloyd pays it back with interest 💷
@Ballykeith Real🙌🏿 I'm very thankful for it, it's helped me heal tremendously. I thought I was going crazy because I was treated that way in this cult. I didn't get true clarity until I left.
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Lloyd, I cannot thank you enough for opening my eyes to what an awful cult this is! Also, I love the energy and humour with which you elegantly debunk all their dangerous propaganda!
Yes, we're all living in the last of the last of the last of the last of the last of the last days!
Same old, same old, same old...........!
I was in the Org between 1974 and 1988. How they sit through this awful stuff amazes me - it’s so nauseating. The poor children who are being told that their non JW relatives (who they probably love) and their best friend at School maybe, who’s not a Witness, these are all going to be slaughtered by Jehovah ‘any day soon’. It must be the worst religious scam ever perpetrated in the 20th and 21st century. Thank you Lloyd for your hard work in exposing the evil nonsense.
I had a nervous breakdown over this teaching 💔 all my loved ones where going to die all the responsibility was put on me to “ teach” them…. I never saw it as good news I saw it as bringing 2nd death ☠️
Yeah that is what is this cult ,a nonsense
They probably do not have strong enough relationships with those relatives to really think much of it. Once you've been indoctrinated since birth about who is evil, even family, you look down on them even as a child.
Thank you for your work. It helps me a lot only by watching. It's been so many years and even though I was raised in jw and never baptised it sits so deep- the mental blackness. I remind myself everyday to think clearly and not what they say.
Ohhh yeahhhh🎉 another excellent long Lloyd rebuttal 😂😊 thanks Lloyd.
Hi Loyd and everybody there, we thank you and appreciate for everything you do and we wish you well❤❤❤.
and I, who was once one of these speakers-I was at the conferences anxious for new news from God… but fortunately I woke up and then this circus!!!
Well done! I came out 14 years ago and hope that my brother, a prominent elder and convention speaker, eventually has the courage to depart.
@@majafleur9646 Well done to you both. x
Please do tell your story on this channel. We love to hear the story how JW woke up! Please!!
Wow I now on the other side listened to this garbage since 10yrs old. Fully indrocrinated bc I didn't leave till 50yrs old.
Thank goodness our son (husband still fully indrocrinsted) raised questions about his disbelief in a God (no joke at 4yrs old). U just plod along n do your best to try n raise them to be a lover of jah n "his organisation".
Now just grateful to see him happy n raising his 2 children n doing a wonderful job.
I can't change the past but deep down I feel we traumatized him subjecting him to something he never wanted. Even though his wife is big on birthdays n christmas n he gives this to his children, his wife told me recently they have no meaning to him as he never was given this as a child.
We spoilt him rotten with presents all yr round thinking we were doing a good job; but we were not.
I never new about the Australian royal comm till yrs later.
My son sent it to us. We both watched it, but only I woke up.
I allowed a baby, toddler, young impressionable boy n then teenager to sit through what was presented here.
Armaggedon, death, destruction n EVEN I AS AN ADULT FOUND TALKS AT THE KH ABOUT THE BIRDS OF THE HEAVEN EATING THE FLESHLY PARTS OF THE BODIES WHO WERE DESTROYED.
This should be R rated or at least MA. No child should be subjected to this HORROR n FEAR.
The last time I heard a bro talk about these birds of the heaven .......I as an adult with a son not babtized, not a jw.....all I could see was this for him n his 2 innocent children n it made me think of my nice next door neighbour n others I knew. It just didn't make sense.
I came home n cried, depressed n traumatized for a good week.
I am a literal person. The org taught me to focus on living in a paradise n playing with lions, so I did.
So these birds, I pictured them doing their job.
But it definately took on a new meaning when it became personal n included our son n grandchildren n every sweet child I know.
The speaker gets an outline n just reads it.
He was pleased that this destruction was going to take place basically so he can get to live for eternity.
Do all the wicked men in this org who have covered up csa, some jailed, some repentant n allowed back in n allowed to be on the platform (while the victim, never believed anyway, may still be in the audience bc they r a child n won't leave just yet till they get older n realize they need to go to the police.
Which side does God place them on......paradise or birds of the heaven eating the fleshly parts of their dead bodies.
N the music n whatever that accompanied this nonsense was truly pathetic.
I wasn't sure at LZloyd was playing a joke n added it in or it was real.
To my disgust it was real.
@@delphinawhiles6235 wow, and your husband still in it! I wish you the very best! I feel the same about birthdays and Christmas. I never celebrated it, so why now that I’m old!? I enjoy the Christmas season and decorations and lights. Usually I watch a nice Christmas movie around that time. Oh boy, the things we went through! I was 50 years in it!
Lord Lloyd is banging again 💪😎
The force is strong with this one! 🥰👌
Oh do Witnesses ever love discipline... And to say it is Satan that draws us away is ridiculous. I actually believe that all my prayers to God to help me seek truth and equip me with courage to leave is precisely what enabled me to.
The damage done to children molested in the org and disfellowshipped and discarded is ongoing. My daughter was molested at 11 by a popular elder. We left because he kept coming up to us at the local kh to prove his innocence, even though the elders knew he ‘had a problem. ‘ The people who supported him gave a lot of money to the kh. They told my other daughters that my molested daughter no longer had Jehovahs spirit. She tried to commit suicide and no one said anything to us out of loyalty to the removed elder. They let him run mikes and sell literature. They let him around their children. She passed away last month from lung cancer. The damage done to children in the org follows them their whole life. Jesus said something interesting about that at Mark 9:42, a scripture they don’t use much in the ‘truth.’
I am so sorry for your loss. Such a terribly sad story and terribly unjust. Proving just how dangerous this religion is. That’s why Activism is so important and stories like yours need to be shouted from the rooftops as a warning to stay far, far away from this cult.
Omg so sorry for your loss ❤😢 it’s a terrible organization but their days is coming what goes around comes around !!!
@user-rj4xl5bl2s,
I'm sorry for your loss, that your daughter's abuse was covered up and ignored, and for how your family was treated by your congregation's Body of Elders. I'm fairly certain that others have gone through very similar situations in the Witness faith. Stories like yours are important to know. This is why ex-JW activism has a place in the world. These stories need attention. Something has to be done at an institutional level within the JW Organization. Serious reform is needed. Too many lives have been damaged by the Watch Tower Society's negligence.
This is heart breaking 😔. This is also "exactly" how evil these people really are.
You don't still believe in the bible do you?
What does providing for my family mean 🤔 slave for gb yes that is what it means 🥸 Great video ❤
I have known of families that have imploded BECAUSE of the fathers insistence that everyone do the meetings, family worship ( so called) and of course the "compulsory" field service. Often in such cases, after years of living in such a controlling family, the kids ( as older teenagers) go way off the rails to the other extreme. Its a fact.
I love the last video. My mother has the same pictures of when she was 6 years old and wearing the placard boards on the streets of Chicago. Being told that the new system was coming any second... She is now 84 and living in an assisted living home. And yes, still saying the new system is coming any day?? So sad...
@timwarner4450,
I suppose at her age she probably needs that comfort of belief in an afterlife, but what's sad is that she's been sold on the idea that the New World would be here "very soon" from the time she was born, or at least very young, and now she's an old woman. Imagine how hard it must be when you're told you've lost your eternal salvation when you've unapologetically broken a rule over something that you don't think should be seen as wrong, that can also be very devastating to a person's psyche.
I always hated how my parents given me corporal punishment as a child. I even confronted them about it when I became an adult. Both of them, very devout religious folk, firmly stated that it was not child abuse. I disagreed. I always felt deep down that it was just a cheap and lazy resolution to discipline your children, then to actually think cerebrally of any non-violent means.
Excellent as always! Thank you for taking the time to expose this nonsense, so we don’t have to😆😀!!! They just keep dangling the carrot!
I was spanked too. Not often, but it happened. He stopped after the time he spanked outside the KH, bent over the hood of the car, while the whole congregation was walking past us (I had not been sitting quiet during the meeting). And as he was doing it, I rebelled again, I was wheezing between clenched teeth, «yeah, you just do it, strike harder». After that he stopped. I was 11. This was the early 80s. And though they may have stopped beating their kids now, the Watchtower has nothing to be proud of - because it was just because the rest of society moved away from corporal punishment that the JWs eventually did. None of my friends of school got spankings, so «the world» allready had, in the early 80s.
My dad was abusive and always furious, right in front of other people or within ear shot, he would start spanking me if I was crying or made any noise whatsoever. And continue spanking me until I could make myself stop crying, which was basically holding my breath and covering my mouth, then "the real spanking" would come which had to be as hard as he could so it was different. That was in the '90s. No one would bat an eye to that either.
@@lorenisevil … yeah, that sounds worse than what I got. But in hindsight, I think that what hurt me more than the spanking would be mom or my grandma quoting Proverbs: «He who spares the rod hates his son». I think it’s my least favorite Bible verse, ha ha
As a non JW child I used to get a spanking (using a wide leather belt that had some studs on 2 rows on it) for not going to sleep. There was a ticking clock and it sounded like whispering to me as a 5 or 6 year old. I was told to shut up and stop being stupid.
I remember saying I hate you to my father as he beat me and really feeling it.
I wasn’t beaten by the time I was 11 or so as it no longer bothered me and I’d just laugh.
They used to have a song which praised striking children.
Humiliating & bullying children with psychological & emotional abuse is just as, if not more damaging. From my experience, this organisation is rife with abuses of all types.
When I asked my JW sister about your point...'how will those in strict countries hear the good news', her answer was Jehovah will read their hearts.....( whats the point then in being an obedient JW) lol.....good point Lloyd re: population of world now and back in 1914. More people to be destroyed now than in 1914 should the end have come back then....it's all SO crazy!
My friend told me the same thing. I told her every church can say that. And so their preaching work is no proof that they are the only true religion. She agreed but didnt like it.
Yes, the informal belief of the witnesses we use to be was that Jehovah reads hearts and he will know the all the good hearts in the last part of the tribulation. It’s because this didn’t make sense to all of us when it comes to established JW behavior to survive. The people who just found out what was happening would have to die at the end was cognitive dissonance to people like us.
Omg, this was great comedy. Thank you, Lloyd, for making me laugh today. I needed that.
This whole convention was a doozy. Appreciate your commentary yet again.
You had me laughing, Lloyd, with the ringtone and Jesus is a Jedi. But seriously, the little parts that we watched compared to what you had to sit through were still very triggering. Thanks for doing this and putting it out there.
I have been through many of these events with you, Lloyd, and always appreciate how you highlight the inherent foolishness of what these people present as something others should live their lives by. Thank you and I look forward to future conventions, well, not really, if you know what I mean.
"the wedges," sersly, like WICKED shunning. Love you much, Loyd ,Bruh🕊️
Hi Lloyd ❤ happy to see you again...again, thank you for looking at this junk instead of myself trying to suffer thru it...oh, and you are looking very nice, love the hair...
My mom loved torturing me as a child, jehovah and her were beating the devil out of me "in love"...usually because i answered a question at the meeting not to her standard..
But , anyways...glad to see you and your lovely voice..❤
I do agree with you about the 'mistakes' made in the past as to when the end will come and that they should be fully open about those 'mistakes' .... I personally cannot get my head around their 'new' teaching around the teaching of 'this generation' which lets face it, is absolutely ridiculous.
3.27 mark....where do they get all this knowledge of satan from? What he does what he wants and what he thinks?
The angels speaking and praising God was done in the creepiest of ways! Almost as bad as the demon-posessed girl from some years ago.
I REMEMBER that drama so vividly 😨 I was a kid and legit had nightmares afterwards 😖
@@jevonator_9479 JWs, causing nightmares for children since inception 😔
A demon-possessed girl? 👿👧🏻 That sounds a blast 😂
@Ballykeith omg if you haven't seen this you gotta look it up 😂
7:43 I've only heard of people not having children, like several of my married cousins, because they are convinced the end is so close and they do not want to go through the tribulation while pregnant or with small children. So they're going to wait for the paradise to have perfect babies because there will no longer be disabilities or birth defects.
I need to go back and watch some of Lloyds old videos because I am sure he touches on the subject of if there are even going to be marriages in the New World and of course if your not mailed, no sex,no kids.
While my mum beat me she quoted "spare the rod spoil the child".
Thanks Lloyd. In the 90s as a teenager I would actively tell householders that Armageddon had to come by 2000! I had no idea that in the history of Jehovah’s Witnesses they pointed to at least ten (10) dates for the arrival of the end of system. Most members would never research that information
Comb-over man can't help putting his foot in it 🦶🏼
"Picture this ... You can't picture it".
"Armageddon will be a day that we will never forget ... " - great, now everyone's got PTSD for eternity" 🫣
Keep it coming 😂
Josiah Nieman and a David Schafer associated with my old congregation. Woof. I can't imagine being that locked in anymore.
I have always enjoyed your videos Lloyd, they have helped a lot. Thank you for your persistence and hard work.
I also think that the whole "think critically" rhetoric is an attempt to get ahead of the new-age wave of ex-jw's who have left and expressed that their critical thinking skills were diminished in the organization. A great deal of the ex-jw movement now is also people like myself, who were likely raised at a time where questioning the organization was heavily heavily frowned upon - which added fuel to the fire on the outside when it came to criticizing them. It's like a mad dash to plant these thoughts as original food from the governing body to kind of, counteract the criticisms that jw's are going to come across in the world. (Of which there is now so much more of, and so many resources and content. I have found a lot of their content recently has been playing catch up to fight against this.)
Side note: I was raised during a time where anything LGBTQ+ was obviously unacceptable but the propaganda was more... vague. Seeing that obvious "no, go attack her for being bisexual because God commands it" would have crushed me as a child. I feel for every person that's still stuck there, closeted. I promise it's better on the other side.
@valkyrie__3630,
I feel that's all very true.
@@valkyrie__3630,
The young man in that drama scene is basically encouraged to bully his bisexual crush at school because of her sexuality, simply because his religion demands that he do so, and because she isn't a Jehovah's Witness. There's no way to do that without coming across as a bigot and a jerk. The Society is more explicit in its homophobic and transphobic attitudes, and all they're going to accomplish is just pushing younger people away from the faith. They're basically saying to their closeted gay, bi and trans members, "LGBT people have no place in our Church, and we don't want them amongst our flock anyway." They throw their own LGBT members, whom they know exist in the Organization, under the bus without shame or reservation. I'm not LGBT myself, but remind me, why should I want to go back to being a JW again?
Well done on "seeing what they did there" 😉
Oh man that was a hard watch hahah! Especially that drama from the two boys…. That propaganda is so gross. And it further shows that everything you do, has to be connected to some sort of worship. Can’t just had a night dinner and watch a movie together. It has to be propaganda from the organization…… it’s so
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11.19 Theres NO comparison. Joseph didn't attend (what used to be...) 5 meetings over 3 days a week or spend minimum of 10 hours a month in ministry and hours of personal and family study of literature printed by men.
I still have that hilarious video scene in my mind when Joseph was sitting at BBQ together with Armageddon survivors, and they were asking many silly questions. Then the speaker, after that video, encouraged everyone to think about what question he will ask Joseph when he will be one day with our BBQ gathering.
I started calculating. Just the 8 Million survivors divided by roundabout 20 participants at that BBQ scene, divided by 52 (weeks per year, so every weekend Joseph joins a new group with their silly questions). I ended up by over 7692 years.
I'm quite sure, after 1000 years of the new world Satan will be released, Joseph will stand in FRONT of the line joining him.
@@siggimad1219,
If Joseph even existed, which I have my doubts, this scenario is unlikely to play out in the future unless there's an afterlife, which no one can know for certain. How do they know he'd even like barbequed food?
@@siggimad1219he'll be cursing Jehovah for ever resurrecting him, along with all the other bible characters 😂
And that concluding song - unless there has been a new light bulb, I thought the Christ was born some time ago 😅 Great videos Lloyd!
I remember struggling with work and these older elders telling me how i need to simplify, sacrifice, and put this religion first in my life. It's funny how most of those men telling me to sacrifice my life were sitting on nice retirements, health insurance, travelling. Now I'm in my 50s with no retirement in sight... ever. Just like Jesus says " they tie up burdens on the people they are unwilling to budge with their little finger". They are truly blind guides, false prophets and this organization is a whitewashed grave
Lol that "Praise Jah" chant sounds like something that would be on an episode of South Park making fun of Christianity
Thank you Lloyd for these videos!!! ❤ keep going!! 😊
I really miss the longer conventions videos but I understand that you don't have that help. Anway good job!
I went on Sunday during the break (I had to go to a convention since 2014, but always on Sunday's break lol) to make my grandma happy (to make her feel a relief that I might find a man there) & also see many of the relatives I rarely see & also old friends. Had a nice time~
Truly nothing's changed, as always the end is near but of course they, jws, never predict or something, no. After all of these years hearing them talk about the 1914 it just hits different. It's amazing how they keep going with this shiet ^v^
We stayed after the break until the end of the convention so we can take my grandparents home & believe me, have you ever slept with your eyes open? Well, happened to me. And then I asked my grandma why do they play so many videos instead of having real life talks & she told me "So you won't fall asleep" which is true.
I wanted to have a great laugh at the epic new song & the trailer for next year's movie HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE CRINGE!!! I felt embarrassed!
Oh, it was really crazy how the poor speaker had to always look straight into the cameras while talking. He pointed it out that he wants to look at the audience while talking (which feels natural) but he said he cannot as he's been told to look strictly into the hq cameras.
Some men were embracing the facial hair thing which I personally don't like as they are not much different from the average greek guy ^~^"
Anyway, the conclusion is that I'm going to some coffee outings to meet some people my age, who knows? (um, yeah, to just meet new people for relationship, not biblical study hahaha) They might just be mentally out. If they mention me anything about jw stuff, I'll let them know my stance. I respect that makes them feel happy (as I do for my relatives & close family friends, who also respect me) & so they have to respect my own beliefs as well.
Sorry, just all of my personal stuff out but yeah, somebody could relate.
A lot of now childless couples were encouraged to wait until the "new system" to have children and to go where the need is great to spend the rest of the short time we have in this old system in the preaching work.
Lloyd I am so glad your my teacher, at least you speak the truth. Your humour is brilliant
I haven't been to a convention in a few years, but this blows my mind. Why are they talking like the audience is a child? Both in the simple words they use and their tone. This is wild.
22:24 "propaganda works when people don't think critically " isn't he talking about watchtower?! 🤔😂
"Every time i had a question, i got answers" ok.....
When will Elders stop with the harassing phone calls / text messages (and getting others to help), stop visiting members at their places of employment, just to sum it up, leave people alone when they decide to stop attending meetings especially if they complain about "Norway upholds their UNCONDITIONAL ruling" (as if the JW organization doesn't violation the human rights of their members).
I got answers once. I asked a body of elders to help me understand how to "hate what is bad", because I was tired of being in constant reprimand for 30 years. They said, "sometimes you can't, you just have to not to that thing that you actually love." At 35 years old, that was a final straw for me. I quit a year later.
As an auld git I remember that around 1975 it was seen as "spiritually weak" to have children. Those who did must have been lacking faith that we were in the "last days" and that "shortly" the tribulation would begin.
In fact those having children (even getting married was frowned upon... I mean the enemy could persecute you by using your new partner as bait to give up... at least that's what was being taught from the platform) were advised against marriage.
Yup nearly 50 years ago that is what I was taught along with all other Witnesses.
The more things change the more they stay the same as my favourite band once sang! Or they do in this cult.
In the following dramatization note how Lloyd tells it like it is, enjoy!
And the father worried about being away for a couple weeks at a time, what are they saying about single parents?
Did he just say "you're a billion years old and you're just getting started?" This is next level late blooming.
Still a spring chicken! 🐥
The conversation about the two teens using slang like "I ghosted her" cracked me up.
I thought JWs were not supposed to adopt 'wordly' slang, I wasn't certainly allowed when I was a teen. Maybe it's their way to appeal to modern kids...but to keep on the topic it was cringe. 😂
@MJBsays,
I thought that the use of the word "ghosted" would be condemned because of Jehovah's Witnesses' belief that the soul does not live apart from the body after one's mortal death. That word could describe fellow apostates who are fading from the Organization, their trying to "ghost" themselves. The JWs aren't afraid of no ghosts, but they're sure scared of us apostates. I'd rather be scared of a ghost if it is ever demonstrated through convincing evidence that they exist.
@@B.W-k8k good point, I didn't even think of the actual ghost/soul link. I wasn't even allowed to watch Ghostbusters as a kid or anything that remotely had ghosts for the very reasons you indicated, and here they are using it in their propaganda material. Ohhhh the hypocrisy of this cult is unmatched.
I think it's sad in that drama where the JW teenage boy is pressured into defending the Watch Tower Society's biphobia to a non-JW schoolmate who has a crush on him. There's no way to not come across like a bigot when attempting to defend prejudice, even if you have a smile on your face and defend such discriminatory views in the gentlest tone; it's still bigotry. When the viewer hears about the destruction of "false religion" at Armageddon, we see a picture of a Christian clergymen married a gay couple in a Christian church. How is it wrong for a church to celebrate the love of an informed consenting adult who love each other, care for one another, are not related and who probably aren't cheating on each other--even if that couple is comprised of two men or two women? Who is being sincerely harmed by such an action?
Then they show an image of Hindu deities in statue form. What is wrong with portraying the divine through physical imagery? What really is idolatry, and who gets to set the standard for what is or is not "idolatry" when it comes to religious practice? If depicting the divine in physical form is idolatry, if that's the case, then should the Watch Tower Society really be drawing pictures of angels, the resurrected Jesus in angel form sitting on a throne in Heaven, the Bible's human prophets or portray divine acts such as healing the sick or raising the dead back to life in their denominational literature.
Satan wants us to focus on the pain, and Jehovah wants us to ignore all the pain. Not just the pain this allegedly all-loving being allows to happen, but the pain that this allegedly all-loving being has directly caused or commanded to happen.
you did a good job lloyd. a lot of JW i know , even pimi, said to me that this was the mmost boring comvention ever.. normall they say best ever, but this time people struggled to get through it. repeating of everything,. it gives hope!
Looks like 2024 was a bottle convention. Even the title is a bore.
The ringtone! 😂🤣😂🤣
Would be awesome to stroll by a literature cart and have someone ring you - *Praise Jah!* 📳 😂
Another excellent rebuttal!!!! ❤
33:05 great!!! I just found out the hidden episode of supernatural, where are the Winchesters?! 😂😂😂
I’m really digging your different “worldly” hair styles! lol!
Lloyd's making up for lost time complying with the regulation JW cut.
33:10 omg I can't stop laughing at how tacky this is. It's like a Monty Python skit or something 😂😅🤣
not only the lightsaber but you can clearly see the death star behind Jesus and his army 😂
Yep. Nothing 'proves your love and fitness to head a household" more than becoming destitute. The wife and kids will LOVE that... 🤦
Also what's with the lowkey stereotyping/racist musical interludes every time they show an Indian or Latin American actor. Panda pointed it out in one of his vids, and now that I've seen it I can't unsee it. It happens in almost every dramatisation 😬
33:06...HOLY CRAP! That was actually shocking to me.
I'm surprised people in the auditorium didn't burst out laughing. They must need stifled it 😂
I was sexually abused and physically assaulted when I was 9-11… when I eventually got the courage I spoke up . I was called a liar and not to be so silly. “That would never happen within this organisation “ wtf my life is in pieces right now I’m 42 this year and unable to get over this, I’ve been told I’m too mentally defunct for therapy as I cannot even get through the grounding work needed to proceed. I’m too ill to be treated. Thanks nhs
@justaboutmanaginguk5002,
I'm truly sorry about the difficulties that you have faced, and I really hope that things will improve for you in the future and that you will receive the help you need in order to be able to better deal with your past experiences.
Sexual abuse of a child. is Evil,those who close their eyes to this abuse are just has reprehensible has the one doing it.
The great evening meal of God... Crows' sounds eating the flesh of both small and big... how charming. This is the crap that made me leave as a teenager even though I was so indoctrinated I still though it could be true... who wants to worship an evil god?
Anyone else noticed the lady covering up her head to conduct family worship with her male son?
No! Good spot 👏🏼 10:33 she's really going for it 😁
@cosmiclove2795,
The sound of the crows gnawing on human flesh would be perfect to use for a spooky audio recording at Halloween time. Not so cool in that this audio drama might scare little kids sitting in the audience at a JW Convention.
42:07 it's hilarious for me when I imagine that the angel talking is jim carry playing pet detective talking to the birds 😂
I’ve been away from the “truth” for nearly 10 years and seeing those videos was so weird lol - I’m new to the whole ex jw side of the internet
One area I do of course agree with you on is their past reputation that has come to light regarding how they have dealt with children who have been abused. It is sickening for sure
When I saw this brother's head i got alien vibes....WTH😂😂😂😂
Straight up conehead, that one.
'It starts with one
All I know
It's so unreal
Watch you go
I tried so hard and got so far
But in the end, it doesn't even matter
I had to fall to lose it all
But in the end, it doesn't even matter
One thing, I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how hard you try
Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme
To remind myself of a time when I tried so hard
In spite of the way you were mockin' me
Actin' like I was part of your property
Remembering all the times you fought with me
I'm surprised it got so far
Things aren't the way they were before
You wouldn't even recognize me anymore."
44:14 Kenny Roger’s lightsaber had me in stitches 😂😂🤣😂🤣😂
Newly Resurrected One: Hey, happy birthday! You're a billion years old today. I bought you a present 🎁
Survivor from the Old System: Sorry, I can't accept presents ✋🏼
NRO: I baked you a cake! 🎂
SOS: Sorry, I can't eat birthday cake ✋🏼
NRO: How about a drink then? 🥂
SOS: Sorry, I can't have a birthday drink ✋🏼
NRO: K, you have a great day! 🥺
SOS: 😢
Think critically… but use only one source of information 😂 (the JWs)
Kind of limits you but it's still easy to dissect the nonsense.
Nice how they assume Joseph didn’t sacrifice time with the family. Also - pre child labor laws. It’s not quality family time to make your kids do adult work with you. Not a win for Joey.
You mean they just made up the fact that Joseph instituted the world's first family bible study? 😏
You can only cry ‘Wolf’ for so long. But this organisation has been doing just that for a hundred years years os so and this convention carries on that tradition. Will modern day audiences swallow that? The same old mini dramas. The same Biblical regencies The same dreary talks? Obviously a percentage give up and leave but the majority keep going. Fear,or rather the instillation of fear is a powerful tool
18:12 😂😂😂 I'm confused too
He says critical thinking as in don’t listen to your peers not don’t listen to watchtower.
46:43 you better find that guy running from agriculture work, who knew, lazy people in paradise 😂
Oh no, looks like Jeezus got the Crusader enchant on his sword. We're screwed! :D
The scene in Luke 2, where twelve-year-old Jesus ends up among the religious teachers in Jerusalem, seems to always have a stimulating effect on the pious imagination. Sometimes, in eager retellings, we will be assured that pre-pubertal Jesus amazed the priests and scribes with his astounding insight on the scriptures. And in this Jehovah's Witness version, we are apparently to take away that he at least subtly condemned the "false teachings" of the religious elders, because unlike them he was not "confused."
All Luke 2:46 really says is that he sat there listening and asking questions. Period. Nothing about him appearing like some kind of child prodigy in religious matters. Nothing about priests and elders marvelling about his supposed insight. And most certainly nothing about him calling out anyone on any "false teachings," which in the context would surely make him appear like an arrogant brat who thought he knew everything better than the religious elders.
It's all elaboration, by the same people who may talk about how important it is not to add to God's word. (Say, where is the verse that says Joseph was particularly hard-working?)
Jesus with that Obi Wan look. 😂
Thinking critically?!!!!
Oh my goodness!!!😮
10:31. is she wearing a head covering because of her teenage son?
Good eye! I missed that.
Either that or she's turned into a hippy as a stress reaction to the rudderless existence caused by her husband's two-weeks away.
Being a Billion years old would be a special kind of Hell! Imagine having seen everything, been everywhere, eaten every flavour of food, drunk every kind of drink, done everything, know everybody. There's nothing new at all. What kind of living Hell is that?
For sure. That was always my thought process too, that I would get bored after a while.
We would never get to a billion years old anyway. The sun will start to burn out in another 100 million.
I would jetski all day everyday 😆
@@thedoctor506Nah, the sun has around 5 to 10 billion years left. That’s around 2 trillion more Watchtower studies. Woo hoo!
You are very limited in your thinking if you think that the Almighty can't make so much more available to those who live forever. There are millions of planets our there - a whole universe to explore. Who's to say that people will be restricted to life on earth forever? That's my opinion. On that basis, life in heaven would get boring. But who's to say how huge the heavens are and what those who get there will have to do ......
Did they just act as though they “critically thinking” and don’t rely on “propaganda”…….😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Who knew it!
Hi Lloyd, are you still doing appearances on atheist call-in shows?
Darth Rodgers
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The GOAT of goats... Luv ya Lloyd
At 33.45 I'm getting the feeling that I'm listening to something like an Aztec or Egyptian ritual to their sun God before doing some sacrifice....
'Propaganda is more effective when people don't think critically??'. That was the quote from baldy. But how can baldy ,with a straight face possibly not realise propaganda is the key tool his own cult uses. Every week.
I hate to tell thrm the melody for the song at the end sounds very "Christmasy" 🎄
@victoriaroberts7034,
Oh, the "Praise Jaaaaahhhhhhh!" thing....it sounds like a monastic choir, but at least it's better than that sappy Pop music style they've been using in JW BROADCASTING videos.
Loyd you are always free to show the world your own thoughts about Jehovahs witnesses but what is your thoughts about other church like Mormons etc
Hi! I've made a number of videos on the LDS church, it might take some digging to find them but feel free to check them out!
Even the angels are male 👼
I guess the women among the Anointed will constitute the only females in heaven. Would be interested to know the Anointed's sex ratio.
Note at 44:29 the prevalence of beards on the sword and bow& arrow wielding angels... can I suggest thats the reason for the reversal of the 60 yr old beard ban- the JW leadership wanted to associate themselves with the bearded heavenly slayers and what better way to do that but to not only to now allow beards but actively encourage it.
They are so tiresome, why can't their followers see it?
No way!!! Hehovah witnesss are fully responsible for the deaths of my mother and brother? Who would have thought 😂😂
Is Watchtower in subjection to the Superior Authorities?
Romans 13:1: Let every person be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. 2 Therefore, whoever opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will bring judgment against themselves.
Titus 3:1: Continue reminding them to be in subjection and to be obedient to governments and authorities, to be ready for every good work,
Not me listening to the music bits and wondering if Lloyd changed them to sound ridiculous... 😮😅😂
21:18 no more! I aint no imitating no Jesus, no Michael Jackson, no Elvis no Taylor Swift. No, I am not imitating someone else anymore! Id rather be myself!
No harm in doing impersonations though. Love to see a good Elvis 😎
@Queenolgi1,
I love your quote. I feel the same way. I don't want to imitate anyone, not Jesus, not Buddha, not Muhammed, not Michael Jackson, not the Queen of Sheba, not Joan of Arc, not Marie Antoinette, not Queen Cleopatra of Egypt etc. I want to be my own person. I want to be the best version of me, not the best version of someone else.
"Always question what you believe". That's good advice on the surface, but in this case, this means don't question the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses' teachings. It's not about the use of skepticism or critical thinking in general.
"I scourge you because I love you." ~ words of an abuser
P.S. I'm really tired of people (not just JWs) thinking bisexual folks go around with anyone and everyone. We don't. No more than some straight people do.
@amb163,
I can imagine how you must feel. The Witnesses don't see bisexuals or any member of the LGBT community as anything other than "perverted sexual deviants "who either don't know that the Bible condemns their sexuality, or they do know but just willfully want to upset God". They view them as only sexual beings, not as flesh-and-blood people.
I wonder if any JW caught the message in Revelation 19:1 - "After this I heard what seemed to be a loud voice of a GREAT CROWD IN HEAVEN..." I have never heard Revelation 19 verse 1 read in a meeting, convention, etc.