Nissan Navara NP300 vs D40 Towing Review
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- Thinking of upgrading your Nissan Navara D40 to an NP300? Should you do it? And how does the Nissan Navara NP300 perform as a towcar?
A few people asked me if I would make this video after I ended up towing my caravans 1500 miles with a loaned 2017 Nissan Navara NP300, and wanted to know how it compared to my D40.
For a great in-depth review of the current Nissan Navara NP300, please see the video by Karina and Jules at the channel Here We Tow: • Nissan Navara Review (...
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Yet another fair and balanced review of the Nissan there. Some amazing drone footage and thank you for mentioning our review not once but twice. 😊😊👍. Can’t wait for the next one. All the best J and K.
I drove the Navara (Frontier in the US) for 15 years. Many long-long trips to LA, climbing up the Rockies in Colorado, sweating it out in Tucson. Never ever a single problem. Changed the oil on schedule, maintained the auto transmission, used only Geolander tires. Best ever car buy I ever made, next car will be a Nissan again. I am sold for life, huge fan.
You and me both! Thanks for watching, and for your comment.
We have a np300 2019 had it since july towing our buccaneer commodore we love it great car thanks for the review andrew
Cheers Paul!
Happy to see 'safety first' as Dougall is well secured while riding in the truck. You love him, I love him. Interesting review I do prefer yours as it has the dual purpose back seat. Be safe.
Great video Andrew. Keep them coming!
Great review, informative and objective. Top video as always, and hats off to Nissan Customer Service!
Another great review, love your videos looking forward too your adventures. 👍👍
Good evening Andrew, thank you for the video and review!! Take care and catch you next time 👍😎🇬🇧.
Thanks Wayne!
Dougal is a very important part of your team , thanks for another great video Andrew.
Thanks for sharing. Great comparison. Always refreshing to get an honest balanced view on stuff, rather than blowing smoke up their backside, so to speak! Graham
Cheers Graham! Well, at the end of the day look how much money we are parting with here... These things need to be right!
I read this review a couple of years ago when I had a D40 (first pick up) and agree with everything you wrote. I am someone that doesnt NEED a pick up but enjoys the idea of owning one. Recently returned to truck ownership this time with the NP300 and with its 7 speed auto box and DAB radio (wow!) have to say it was absolutely the right choice as a daily driver but...all that refinement is at the expense of the sense of adventure I got from driving my boxy D40 with its military looking interior. Its early days though and as I start to build some history with this truck, I am sure I will grow to love it.
Great stuff! Yes, the Tonka Toy styling of the D40 is something special I think. Enjoy the NP300, cheers!
Good, honest review, as always!
Thank you kindly!
Good honest review Andrew.
We have been seriously looking at the NP300 2019. What became the deal breaker for us was the lack of practicality.
Rear seats an issue but for us the lack of 12 v socket in the pick up section was key.
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Interesting point Graeme. Cheers!
Great review, you make some interesting points. Thanks for sharing 🙂 Mark
Hi Andrew, Was surprised to see the comment section for your last video closed! Anyway I was pleasantly surprised to see the update on your friend from California who had one year ago moved to Portugal. Good to hear she has established herself in the community, purchasing a residence, & seemingly has entered into a relationship, which is wonderful. One can only admire the bravery to up root & move not just across the country but across an ocean to a place that is substantial different!
Also the truck video review, & as you know Andrew I'm a huge fan, however reviewing trucks is not your best work!
The Whale heaters, fabulous product, your video on the manufacturing process, installation, & operation was top notch in all areas,.... I would purchase any Whale product based on those two videos.
Bi bi for now Andrew, 😘😍😛💓
Cheers Bob. Sadly we had so many trolls and hate on the first Portugal video that we had to close comments for our own sanity. Sad, but true.
Really good in depth video cheers 👍
Nice one Mr D 👍
40mpg let alone 50mpg is unheard of in the home land of Airstream. We are excited about the new wave of small diesel pickups getting over 30mpg. Of course we crave power here, I know you have seen our trailers here. We kinda need it!
Nice one Andrew good review all round. And like and dislike good point made there have to admit nice pick up would love one in black with chrome affect good luck getting by ours sorted out
Kev
Cheers Kev! Yes, the black is lovely... all the while it is clean! :)
Still loving my Tonka Toy. Time to get the tailgate fixed up I think :)
Andrew Ditton best tonka toy ever !!!
Hi Andrew, yet another great video. Thanks. Please can you do a video of how you get your motorcycle up into the cargo bed, and also how you secure your motorcycle in the cargo bed. Thanks. Love to you and the adorable Dougal. Love from Scotland, XX.
Hi there, if you go back a few years on my 'videos' tab on my channel page you'll find it there. Cheers!
Great review. I have the same truck and it’s definitely a Tekna. Before this I had a 2016 Ranger and I much prefer the Navara. I agree 100% about the bed rails in the load area although the split rear seat and roof bars are not really an issue for me.
Cheers Les!
Hi Andrew really fair review, know you struggled with the lack of load cover. Is it an optional extra with this one? Cheers P&J
Hi P&J, the load cover is always an option, so you can chose which kind you like.
Hi Andrew - it’s a shame that Nissan has a problem with the chassis on the D-40, I was at our local salvage company yesterday inspecting vehicles there and they have a lot of these that have been classed as unrepairable with the chassis actually splitting, they use them to drive around the yard but some of them have just bent in half, they were ones that Nissan had brought back from customers that they sold onto salvage.
I would get it in writing that they are happy that your vehicles chassis is going to be ok, especially when you tow a lot.
Cheers Adrian. Well, I think they know what would happen if I were to get snapping chassis problems so I would hope it really has been sorted!
Used to drive these for work, we had use of about 4 and they all kept going through front tyres (more so than the rear tyres) about once every three weeks. Tyres wore unevenly on inside edge. Pressures checked weekly and tyres aligned about once every 4-6 weeks. The truck were doing about 800 miles a week but just thought I would mention to other owners to check tyres inside edge.
Very interesting! I've had two D40s over 10 years and fortunately not had that issue.
Sorry I should have mentioned they were the np300's that went through tyres. I have a d40 as my personal vehicle and tyres are all good and have no issues.
You can pick up a brand new 2019/20 Tekna for just over £25000 if you shop around which seems like great value when you're looking for something that will cope with most things you can throw at it. Great video!!! 👍
That's without the vat?
Nope that's with VAT though + fees (20950 ex vat). I don't work for Nissan, I'm just thinking of buying lol!!!
Blimey ours was 8 months old 3000 miles with all the kit rear bars, cover, sunroof auto etc 28500 with vat !!
@@paulreimers6805 to be fair a sun roof is a £600 option on a new one, the price I found is for a 6 speed manual so an auto would cost a few more quid on top, then of course covers aren't cheap and then add a tow bar...soon adds up... don't think you've done too bad at all when you add up all the kit. 👍
But does it have and “eject” button! I need one for my next car ! These car thingies you are showing us frighten me. I’m not good with big Tonkas although I drive a Citroen C4 grande Picasso. It’s good enough for me but I do like the way you have that pick up boot! I don’t feel I will ever get a bigger van than the Freedom. I do want to try one of those cars though and so I am going to have a test drive! I’ll keep you posted. That’s fab mileage return as my Citroen towing returns 37mpg! And finally ditch the radio and get a mouth- organ around your neck. Playing a few tunes as you go along is fab!!!! (I’ve never done it”!!! See ya later ❤️❤️❤️
Thanks for the mouth-organ tip Peter. I think Dougal would be straight on to the RSPCA... ;@)
Andrew Ditton he’d love it. Singing away!
Hi Andrew. Here in Australia the Ford Ranger and Toyota Hilux are the top sellers in this category.
Does the rear seat base fold up at all on the np300? I had the old d40 2013 and loved it, agree the split rear fold seat was so good.
Yes it does Craig, but it is only one-piece. Cheers!
I have the d40 v6 550 stx turbo diesel 7speed sport. It's a weapon
I have it too and I love it!
thank you for the great video, footage and useful information. I wonder, how D40 drives like in the city. Do you feel uncomfortable due to the springs on the suspension ? this question is especially for the rear passangers. thanks
Hmm, in 15 years of a Navara I never really carried rear seat passengers! I found no problem in the city.
@@andrewjditton ahh really!? What about long distance journeys?
Good vlog. Any views on the Kia Sorento?
Cheers Graham. Only driven the Kia around Millbrook when driving for the CAMC, and like the HUGE MAJORITY of cars it doesn't stick in my head - which means it was absolutely fine, not amazing and not terrible!
If you have a problem with the 300 fuel injection the engine has to come out ?
No other ute has split rear seats, as far as I know. My SE (South African spec) does not have tie rails in the back bin or roof rails, but I do not need any. Only letdown is lack of forward folding rear seat. I also love the engine and economy. The 2.3 is a gem, BUT UNFORTUNATELY i read last night that the new facelift SA built Navara NP300 has a 2.5 engine (YD25) and 2.3 has sadly been removed!! Nissans are always heavy on fuel, except this 2.3 Twin Turbo which is very frugal.
I thought that we were going to hear Dougals voice, it been awhile 🤣
Great review Andrew. I found it very interesting as I tow caravan also and would like the option of all season touring hence the reason I am looking at NP300. I’ve been looking at Navara as I feel they would be best value for money pickup. What are the running cost disadvantages of running a pickup as a private personal vehicle, I am not self employed. when looking at them it keeps mentioning +VAT
Hi Tom, I'm not VAT registered so I ran mine as a private vehicle. I think the only reason they quote it +VAT is because of the tax advantages for companies (as opposed to regular cars). I'd say the biggest disadvantage was the car insurance - it cost double what I now pay on the EV6.
@@andrewjditton thanks
Hi Andrew, interesting vlog. I do have a question though, I’ve “heard’ that some caravan manufacturers specify that towing by a commercial vehicle can invalidate your warranty, and that pick ups are classed as a commercial vehicle. Can you clarify? Cheers
I have heard the same. Yet the NP300 has coil spring suspension like an SUV. Makes no sense.
Gnarly Boot . Obviously the consumer protection laws in the UK are sh-te. AND it shows the crappy van designs/ toughness over there. If we applied that here in Oz or NZ there would be bugger all caravan sales as the majority are towed by utes.
Ok Can'tbelieveit - Well, I’m a retired quality engineer with 30 years at a Nissan vehicle manufacturing plant. So I know a bit about putting vehicles together, and parts supply and manufacture. Being fairly new to Caravanning I was horrified as to how lightly built UK caravans are. However from a warranty perspective the industry has the owner over a barrel. The most common significant issue seems to be water ingress. most manufacturers now offer a 10 year warranty, so most people are very cautious about invalidating this warranty. It also means any small modification or repair which could influence water ingress must be completed by a “trained” person. My 30 years in the motor industry doesn’t count........so this pushes you back to the dealer at £50 + an hour. A friend of ours had his water ingress claim rejected because his annual service was 3 weeks late, the cause was a leak through the toilet cassette door, more of a manufacturing issue than a service item. Cost him £3,000 to have a portion of the floor replaced and the leak fixed............😱😱😱😱
Gnarly Boot . Man that’s tough. We have, as part of the consumer guarantees act, a “ fit for purpose “ clause. It doesn’t matter whether a vehicle or thing didn’t get serviced on time. Within reason of course It’s what a reasonable person should expect from a product as far as quality goes and a reasonable life expectancy without faults. For example my daughter bought a second hand Mazda CX-5 diesel with just over 100,000 ks on the clock. The engine played up as they’re known to do. The dealer she bought it from did the usual “you haven’t had it serviced on time” . She called consumer protection ombudsman office and spoke to them. They informed her that the manufacturers warranty was all very well but the “fit for purpose” overruled any such warranties and they would contact the dealer. If it couldn’t be repaired satisfactorily then she could get her money back or have them supply her with another vehicle.About an hour later the dealer called and said they would collect it. They gave her another vehicle to use in the meantime. The long and short of it was they couldn’t find out what was causing the problem (should have looked on the internet at the crappy particulate filters Mazda had fitted to their diesels) Anyway she chose to take another vehicle and is very happy with her Toyota Prius 😁
is it true the mp300 uses the front wheel drive X-Trail engine turned around 🤔🤔?
Dougal, what are you doing letting your assistant do a video on his own? Surely you must realise he needs you to help him along!
Be careful with the NP300, the vehicle designers must’ve given the work experience kid the keys to the office and left him to his devices, while they went to the pub for a liquid lunch. The reason I say this is, the place 1 of the bottom radiator hoses, apparently it’s a 3 piece set up, too close to the lower drive belt pulley and there’s more than a lot of them that have had the hose rub on the pulley to the point of wearing thru the hose, causing coolant to leak. Some have actually leaked so rapidly that owners haven’t noticed it and they’ve ended cooking the motor. That has been an ongoing fault since the NP300 was released and its still occurring, nearly 4yrs later. Doesn’t say much for Nissan’s ability to rectify a serious fault, even after 4 years.
Ooh that's not good. Thanks for the tip - will stick with my D40 till it falls apart anyway!
They're both np300. The older one is d40. The new is d23
Good luck with the Navara dont keep it long.
FYI the 2017 NP300 is a: Nissan Navara Tekna Dci, 2298cc, 190BHP, 167g/km CO2. :)
EVERYONE needs a friend in the automotive industry! Should have just asked you shouldn't I, Simon? ;@)
Halooo, ANDREW, so I see you were hauling the AIRFLOW , so how was your trip ? What heat do you have in it ?, I know about the WHALE heater in GLYNIS, safe. Travels, love to DOUGAL,
CHEERS FROM NJ.USA🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧🇺🇸
Hi Leighton, the Airstream trip was a few weeks ago taking it for the chassis repair - there was a video a few weeks back. Cheers!
What about the navara 3.0 dci. As far as I understand it has better fuel economy and more power and more reliable...
I guess the only difference would be the rear leaf springs so...maybe compare it to a pathfinder same generation?
G,day,,, in regards to the D40, get the timing chain upgraded to the stronger duplex timing chain 🤔🤔 it's the Achilles heel for the 4-cylinder turbo diesel engine.
Ive have the Tekna NP300 for 2 years now. The rear coil springs are great when not towing or with no weight in the back. BUT when are fully loaded, the rear end drops down down and looks like it cant cope with the weight!
@Darren Finnerty Hi Darren, do you think after spending all that money on a pick up truck and some of us do WORK them the air bags should come as standard? I dont think in a working environment the np 300 will have any longevity, I drove one recently a freind had one it was like a drunken sailor, gutless and you have to piss about with add blue! Perhaps I'm biased I've got 16 plate D40 V6 probably one of the very last in the country, spec is awesome goes like a rocket pulls like a train, and its good on fuel 🤙
@@peterbalac1915 I loved my 2.5 D40. It ran faultless for 140k miles until the rear end snapped. Luckily Nissan bought it off me with an extremely generous offer.... But are Nissan ever going to get the rear ends right on these trucks! Yes agree with airbags as standard but I would prefer good old leaf springs.
How on earth do the UK vehicles get such high mpg? Is that a 128 0unce , 4 quart gallon or a 4 liter gallon?
1 Imperial gallon is 1.2 US gallon..It's quite a big difference
@@MrMslagter Sorry, it's not a big difference. .2gallons does not equal 25 more miles in the same make cars imported to us.
@@annettefournier9655 Not 25 mpg no,but are you from the US??
That can make a big difference,because Andrew drives a 2.3DCI Diesel engine,no petrol engine.That can easely explain the 25 mpg difference.In Europe the petrol versions are very rare,because of the high petrol prizes.Here in The Netherlands we pay USD7.50 for a US gallon.
@@MrMslagter Yes. Petrol where I live is 3 USD per gallon. And since everything is so far apart and spread out we spend a lot on petrol (gas). Just going two states to the east to visit family over Christmas was 526 miles just to get there. Not including driving about once there.
annette fournier hello , Some while ago, I had the same issue, when someone, mentioned , the idea of MORE MPG in UK, vs USA, so I said first off you are NOT COMPARING the same 2 items, he did NOT see it until I beat it into him, but then all those diesels would NOT BE REGISTERED IN USA , WHY? Simple, the emissions, but even it would be petrol, we have so much damned emissions equipment on them, Then the economy goes to hell, so that’s why we now have as much as 8 speed /10 speed automatics , just to get more mileage. Cheers From NJ,USA 🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧🇺🇸
Я гоняю на севере на наваре D40 в - 60 градусов, из за мороза шины становятся квадратными, топлива расходует 3 раза больше, мотор работает на износ, мы терпим, но как ещё передвигаться)?
SatNav on cars and trucks is always going to have update problems so long as you have to take them into the dealers. My brand new car the old location for my post office that had moved 6 months earlier. And a branch of a store that has closed 8 months previous. And since I haven't paid the several hundred dollars to update it, now that the car is 5 years old, it is that much more out of date. I use a Garmin that sits on my dash that I can update just by linking it to the Wi-Fi at home. And the updates are free.
And if it is having problems, there is always Google Maps on the phone. 😉
Exactly my friend, but this is why I think the likes of Android Auto and Apple Car Play are the way forward.
What about compared to the 3.0 V6 DCI D40 so much better 🎉 Has all the extras missing off the D23 plus extra power 170kw 550nm and a bose sound system 😅 plus if you decat and remove one of the silencers it sounds like a mustang 😉
If the base vehicle is sound,practical can be added.If the base vehicle sucks,no matter what you trow at it to make in moer practical,it still sucks.
I find the styling from your old D40 better then the NP300,but it's still a nice car to look at.
30K for the up specc.model expensive??? Try 60K plus for the same vehicle here........
No, I think £30k is reasonable for what you get! Sorry if that didn't come over well :-/
@@andrewjditton OH,NO, that wasn't the case,i meant that i wish we could buy that vehicle for 30K where i live and don't have a 2K+ roadtax on these heavy diesel vehicles.
30K is a lot of money,but it's well prized for what you get.The Amarok is waayy more for basicly the same,but with a more luxury feel and touch to it.
Sorry for my bad grammar.....
Great video once again.(:
You ain’t talk about the other gas tank
Amarok is not a good truck, trust me.
Love the review of the Nissan I owned one myself but now I have ford Ranger 😬.
Sorry to hear about your SatNav problems. I hope it did not nag you until you were forced to yell “Shut up, ____”.
ncplantdoctor HELLO, only 2019, I had NEVER heard of SAT NAV, so recently I contacted the TOM TOM. dealer, and you should hav seen their response, first they ARE NOT SOLD IN USA, so I would have to contact the company DIRECT, but their answer to me was in probably 6 languages, . BUT I wonder if it may even supported here .This is my preferred brand of GPS, guess I am on the 5th generation , , NEVER EVER PUT ME WHERE I DID NOT WANT TO GO. CHEERS FROM NJUSA. 🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧🇺🇸
That’s not a tow test . Tow 2000 kilo not 800
It's about time you up graded to a Holden Colorado it has 500nmt a lot better for towing , all the best from NZ
Ahh, we don't have Holden here in the UK Roger. Maybe I just need to head back to NZ sometime soon... :)
Get the 3.0 v6 dci
It's a Navara Tekna Dci 2.2 Diesel
Cheers Mark! I miss the days it said so on a badge ;@)
For a unbiased view of several pickups 4WD ACTION on youtube have posted a really good comparison ruclips.net/video/Ld1bMp5Hh1I/видео.html might be worth a watch if you are considering a new one.
Cheers Roger!
What a great pity that nissan do not listen to user comments
I admit, the non-split rear seat seems to be a backward step.
You might want to try Android and Android Auto before you sneer at it.
I wasn't sneering. Just not sure of the proper name for the car version.