Stock MTW hopup vs Maxx M4W vs SI Alpha (Head 2 head)

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  • Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
  • Something like Episode 2 of this H2H. Ep.1 - • Maxx M4W & SI Alpha ho...
    Featuring:
    ▶ Stock hopup, Madbull 'red' flathopped bucking and R-hoped PDI 6.08 300 mm; Just for comparison and food for thought;
    ▶ Maxx M4W with the default orange M-nub, Madbull 'red' flathopped bucking & 300 mm PDI 6.05 with R-hop;
    ▶ Silent Industries (SI) Alpha chamber with Lambda FIVE 6.05 stainless steel barrel, G&G 'green' bucking and SI nub.
    The dwell is set for 1.6 J with 0.36.
    The Inferno Gen2 engine is with the SI MTW v2 red+black nozzle in both M4W and Alpha setups.The torso of the mannequin is 63 meters / 207 feet away.
    The temperature was 16°C / 60 F.
    #rhop #mtw #maxx_m4w #si_alpha #wolverineairsoft
    0:00 - Distance measurement & chrono
    0:54 - Stock CNC hopup + R-hop
    2:36 - Maxx M4W + R-hop
    6:49 - SI Alpha + G&G 'green'
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Комментарии • 66

  • @flyingduckairsoft
    @flyingduckairsoft 4 месяца назад +6

    The stock hop-up works like a dream! Nice video!

  • @danielburr5080
    @danielburr5080 Год назад +9

    Damn well the results speak for themselves the stock cnc with r-hop really shined..!!!! max wasnt too bad either but..... stock was simply too good

  • @brandob.2733
    @brandob.2733 Год назад

    I also run the SI Setup and had the same unconsistant Results with the G&G Green. So I change it into a ML 60 Macaron. Now I have simular Results like your M4w Setup👍🏻

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  Год назад +1

      I have best results with Alpha when I use the Maple Leaf combo - Crazy Jet + Hot Shot bucking + Omega nub.

  • @m60user
    @m60user Год назад +1

    The stock setup did well, especially with that wind it was dealing with.

  • @duncaniraklio
    @duncaniraklio Год назад

    Awesome video. I am trying to improve the performance of my MTW and bought the SI v2 nozzle and the SI alpha hopup. Haven't been getting good results with the G&G green and a prometheus 6.03 barrel, so kind of disappointed right now, but I'll wait a bit more until the bucking has had more shots through it. Do you think that the SI v2 nozzle is better than the Wolverine original nozzle?

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  Год назад +1

      With v2 SI nozzle I have 0.13 J loss with Alpha compared to M4W. Other than that I can't see any measurable difference between stock nozzle and SI v2 nozzle.

  • @LeinusRait
    @LeinusRait 28 дней назад

    Hi, great video! what does the stock hopup's M-nub look like and where can one get it?

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  27 дней назад

      You can order it from McMaster - www.mcmaster.com/5109K31/ and cut the piece you need.
      And you have to modify the stock arm to glue the nub. It's the same nub that comes pre-installed in Maxx M4W/MXW/MGW.
      photos.app.goo.gl/9HY1Dyf29rvGNHLQ9
      photos.app.goo.gl/HdRde2W1tG9tTpPi9

  • @pug8105
    @pug8105 Год назад

    Great Video . What is the app you are using for range finder ?

  • @affeCted6990
    @affeCted6990 Год назад +1

    U using the maxx orange sqare nub ?? Nice results 👍💪

  • @JuDgeDreGg
    @JuDgeDreGg 10 месяцев назад

    Was it a selfmade R-Hop patch? Or did you bought one from someone? thats absolutely crazy with the stock cnc unit. also did you tried the concave aluminium nub on the m4w? Should be better in comparison to a flat nub.

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  10 месяцев назад

      Yes, selfmade R-hop patches in both barrels. The one in the stock hopup is a 8 year old silicone IR-hop patch. The one in M4W is made from EPDM rubber hose.
      The hard concave aluminum nub doesn't work good at all with my R-hops. In all my R-hop setups the soft M-nub gives me the best results compared to all other options that are available on the market.

  • @stalinelie1088
    @stalinelie1088 Год назад

    Great video!! It is the stock plastic hop up unit or the Phoenix hop up unit that using ? Because you whrite stock cnc hop up. Thank

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  Год назад +2

      The 2nd gen Forged comes with a CNC aluminum version of the plastic hopup.

    • @stalinelie1088
      @stalinelie1088 Год назад +1

      Ok thank

    • @stalinelie1088
      @stalinelie1088 Год назад

      Do you think we can use a r-hop with 0.28 g. I can't do it, I have far too many Hopup at zero. thanks

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  Год назад +1

      @@stalinelie1088 yes, i use mine with 0.28-0.30 @ 1.1 J when i play CQB.

    • @NickBusscher
      @NickBusscher 8 месяцев назад

      Does r hop work with .25s or is that too light? @@NikolayDimitrovFisher

  • @Deikis
    @Deikis 4 месяца назад

    My setup
    Silent Industries MTW Alpha hop-up chamber + nozzle
    G&G COLD RESISTANT HOP UP RUBBER - GREEN
    6.04 MTW 14.5″ Stainless Steel Hybrid Barrel 380mm
    but I'm not satisfied with the accuracy, maybe you could advise me how to improve it
    2.8j 0.45bbs

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  4 месяца назад

      The easiest way is to try flathoped Madbull red with SI flat nub. The best way is R-hop.

  • @christopherhayto1089
    @christopherhayto1089 Год назад

    пробвахте ли бялата дюза mtw в M4W в сравнение с дюзата SI, много впечатлен от стандартния модул за хоп

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  Год назад

      Yes. I tried it. It's just as good as the SI red-black v2. They both are with the same length.

    • @christopherhayto1089
      @christopherhayto1089 Год назад +1

      @@NikolayDimitrovFisher ok, video showed how effective each unit was saved me some money, just how effective the stock unit is, great testing.

  • @STEFBABYAIRSOFT
    @STEFBABYAIRSOFT Год назад +2

    Група да искаш...

  • @isthisthetop_4150
    @isthisthetop_4150 5 месяцев назад

    I use a 6.08mm PDI (380mm), the SI camber with Snipetor 65 R hop patch, regular flathop bucking and the SI black nub. My 0.4 bbs overhop very quick and i have no consistet results. Any idea what to change??

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  5 месяцев назад +1

      The patch should not protrudes in the barrel with hop turned off. When you drop a bb in front of the barrel it should stop in the bucking lips, not in the patch. The nub is taller than needed. Try shorter or softer nub. Check if the tension ring doesn't provide too much bucking lips resistance for bb. You should be able to push the bb through the lips with very little force applied. Do you have consistent FPS with hopup turned on?

    • @isthisthetop_4150
      @isthisthetop_4150 5 месяцев назад

      @@NikolayDimitrovFisher hey thanks for the tips, you're right I have to press very hard so that the bb comes through the feeding lips. Will have to try another ring. and do you have a recommendation for a nub? I will check the fps later.😇

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@isthisthetop_4150 when i tested Alpha with R-hop i had good results with its softer blue extended nub. Not so good as with M-nub but better than anything else i tried.

    • @isthisthetop_4150
      @isthisthetop_4150 5 месяцев назад

      @@NikolayDimitrovFisher okay so the best Option is the Airtech M-nub? Then i will try this one.

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@isthisthetop_4150 Airtech M-nub is with trolley for Maxx ME Pro/Sport. You can use the nub only with modified SI Alpha trolley.

  • @HuibvanderHart
    @HuibvanderHart Год назад

    Is it the 6.08 barrel or the r-hop.. That’s amazing.. 😮

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  Год назад +1

      Definitely the R-hop. 6.08 helps but it's not significantly better than 6.05.

    • @HuibvanderHart
      @HuibvanderHart Год назад +1

      @@NikolayDimitrovFisher Ok. Thanks! Like this testing vids btw!

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  Год назад

      @@HuibvanderHart Thank you, much appreciated!

  • @NeboUser
    @NeboUser 6 месяцев назад

    Неплохо летит. Это Maple Leaf или Р-хоп стоит?

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  6 месяцев назад

      R-hop in M4W.

    • @NeboUser
      @NeboUser 5 месяцев назад

      @@NikolayDimitrovFisher а р-хоп сами делали или кто-то вам на заказ?

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@NeboUser it's custom made by me from EPDM rubber hose.

  • @qwerty-ki4mh
    @qwerty-ki4mh Год назад

    Great video, which of the 3 setups did you prefer?

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  Год назад +1

      M4W with 6 mm M-nub, R-hoped PDI 6.08 with 6 mm rectangular hopup window, Madbull 'red' flathoped bucking.

    • @RedNeckActual
      @RedNeckActual Год назад

      @@NikolayDimitrovFisher Have you tried the aluminium concave 7 mm nub of the M4W with your R-hop PDI barrels? And what do you think it?

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  Год назад

      @@RedNeckActual yes, i tried it but with no success - lots o flyers, bad accuracy. The soft nub is much more effective.

    • @mauricechoo8884
      @mauricechoo8884 11 месяцев назад

      @@NikolayDimitrovFisher from the video it seems your first set up is more accurate no? @minute 1:20

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  11 месяцев назад

      @@mauricechoo8884 Maybe... I wouldn't say there is any noticeable difference between those two setups, they both shoots great :)

  • @MsRiico
    @MsRiico Год назад +1

    what r-hop is this? elvishtac?

  • @raph-fpv6044
    @raph-fpv6044 8 месяцев назад

    Hello, does the SI MTW v2 red+black nozzle really make a significant difference or not that much?

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  8 месяцев назад +1

      i can't say for sure because in my gun (1st gen billet lower + 1st gen forged upper) i have a ~0.15 J loss with SI v2 nozzle compared to SI v1 or stock 1st gen nozzle. Having in mind that SI v2 red-black nozzle have the same dimensions as the white delrin nozzle of the current MTW Inferno I would say that there's no difference in performance between them.

    • @raph-fpv6044
      @raph-fpv6044 7 месяцев назад

      @@NikolayDimitrovFisher After watching your videos, I feel motivated to strive for excellent performance! Does the 6mm orange number make a significant difference compared to the 4mm? Thank you!

    • @NikolayDimitrovFisher
      @NikolayDimitrovFisher  7 месяцев назад

      @raph-fpv6044 good luck and don't give up :)!
      You only need 6 mm nub if you have 6+ mm patch or use 0.40+ g bbs with more than 1.7 j. Otherwise the 4 mm M-nub is more than enough.

  • @evilhansolo8181
    @evilhansolo8181 2 месяца назад

    What the program?